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Totally agree. I'm not sure she's all that into being interviewed, but she's fascinating to listen to because she explains things very well. So I hope she gets used to all of us peering in to watch her think and share her wisdom.
I love that she says when she doesn't know something instead of pretending to know. A sign of integrity. Thank you HG for many years of information and entertainment!
Aw, I am so happy to hear preceptory pronounced properly. It isn't easy to correct a word once it has set, either. Great interview. A trove of information... including the commandery and all of the roles! Great stuff from the three of you! 👏 👍
Wow. Neat catch Helen. Preceptory and Commandery being the same explains some oddities I remember noticing in some of the history books. The names’ being in different languages would cover most of them. Crud, and here we were all thinking they were different things!
Yes, agree! For me Helen speaks so well that I understand what she says even with this incredible bad sound. English is my second language (I'm swedish) She is a treasure and still a beauty!🤗
As others have noted, the sound quality was ....sub-optimal... to be kind. Please remember that a good proportion of your audience will be hearing-challenged and pay closer attention to this aspect of what is otherwise, excellent content. Thank you.
just before i wanted to reply to that i found YOUR reply. the sound is indeed horrible. only when i put on my headphone could i understand anything. and it is for sure not the quality of my speakers or computer. An ambulance for sure is a fine thing. but apparently NOT suited for an interview?
A young TH-camr will do better sound just by accident. It's hard doing this bad sound. This must be fixed or it would be better with other people do this job interviewing the professional Helen. It's your job!
It’s a quick and ready interview in some sort of huge RV which inevitably has dreadful acoustics…. They aren’t using a soundman - possibly to save cash…however a spot mike or lavalier mikes presumably don’t alienate the Union…..the camera mike might be good enough usually - it’s the acoustics which are bad
Recently visited the St.Johns museum in London and yes the knights have a lineage to the modern day St. Johns Ambulance but there's a whole lot of mystery around them and the Crusades, Malta and Rhodes. Fascinating. The Knights of St. John was almost a sovereign state- able to issue passports, though that is changing, I understand.
The Knights of St John had to pull out of Jerusalem, Rhodes and Malta as the Saracens and later Turks took over the Near East from the Crusaders, but before that they had acquired some of the properties the Knights Templar had lost when they were suppressed. During the reformation they were broken up and there are various successor organisations in protestant countries including England, often with royal and church patronage. The English Order belongs to the Church of England and seems to own the St John Ambulance Brigade. They have "Serving Brothers" and even issue knighthoods, though a KStJ is not allowed to call himself "Sir." The Sovereign Military Order of St John lives in Rome and is affiliated with the Vatican. Their "sovereignty" is limited to their building. The various "Orders of Chivalry" used to be a hobby for European aristocrats who like dressing up and giving each other medals and titles, but the whole thing has become democratized and there are many such "Orders" of quite recent origin with more or less bogus histories.
@@faithlesshound5621 one might add that the Sovereign Order of Malta, to use its short name, is one of a very few entities with a peculiar status under international law called ‘sui generis’ or of its own kind. In the order’s case this status comes from its history of ruling Rhodes and later Malta but also from its independence from the Holy See. It may have its base in the Vatican but it wouldn’t have an ambassador to the Holy See if it were ‘affiliated’ as you say. The Holy See btw is another one of those funny sui generis entities. Ambassadors are appointed to it, not the Vatican. Another comparable entity, recognised by basically all nations of the world as having its own personality under international law is theInternational Committee of the Red Cross or ICRC. The ICRC is basically a private organisation under Swiss law. It could be like the pigeon fanciers club. However, because this club of Swiss citizens, in the sixties of the 19th Cent. instigated the codification of a hefty chunk of the Law of War in the Geneva Conventions it became a body with a personality recognised under international law. All the nations that ratified the Geneva Conventions gave the ICRC the role of independent guardian of the Conventions and has the right to treat with sovereign nations on a basis regulated by international law. Today, the Order of Malta maintains diplomatic relations with some 100 countries to further its humanitarian initiatives in an independent and apolitical fashion. The ICRC’s diplomatic relations are even wider spread in the aim to promote and further develop the law of war treaties at the heart of which are the now four Geneva Conventions of 1949 and to support its neutral, independent and impartial, humanitarian action.
@@thomasmerkelbach6228 "sui generis" = "of it's own kind." "Sovereign Citizens" in the US have their own mythology, one of the facets of which is the Universal Postal Union, through which they derive some of their imaginary powers.
Helen, to millions of Us, seeing you back is much like seeing an old friend. I hope BBC is smart enough to make you a permanent figure in Time Team's 2nd life.
I wish I could support you guys with enumeration, but alas I can't,I have watched time team since 1994 ,my one wish is to participate in a dig,thank you all
time team used to keep me company so well, i really enjoyed it.. thought of mick and tony and Phil etc as friends lol.. so its lovely to see and hear Helen again.. but what IS a preceptory?? a medieval hospital?
It might have had a hospice on sight but it's more a monastic administrative centre than anything. In modern military terms, we'd probably call it a Headquarters.
I think the most important thing that I learned from watching Time Team is just how incredibly interesting and attractive intelligent people are. I'm so happy I waited until I found my nerd. 🤗
Excellent as usual Helen and Time Team, this informs my research into Hospitalliers and Preceptories, Were French hospitalliers similar? Are the Malta records written in Latin, French or another language?
I'm 43 now, but if I was much younger, instead of having posters of supermodels in bikinis on my wall, I would have much rather a poster of Helen, holding her trowel in an archaeological trench! I give anything to walk a field, go metal detecting, fossilic, or rockhound with her if she ever came to the U.S.! It'd be a dream date to grab a beer and a good meal and discuss our finds afterwards! But a woman that perfect has to be taken! I love you guys!!!
Why would a manor “in a remote location” need to welcome pilgrims? Pilgrims are going to want to stick to the main roadways/routes/etc (Unless it was the place that the pilgrims wanted to go to, in which case it wouldn’t be in a remote location).
Love these kinds of talks. Just a heads up, though. The audio is very echoey. Not sure if that’s because you recorded it inside an enclosed space, or if you weren’t close enough to the microphone, but portions of what you say are not readily audible.
Little comment on the answer to the first question - you do have to be Christian to be in the Order of St John I believe, but not to be a volunteer for St John Ambulance. So the bit about swearing oaths etc might be true for the chivalric order but not for the first aid volunteering organisation.
Does Helen suggest that we should all do the right thing with finds? Friday, 18 November 2022 Detectorists' Finds Among Items Reportedly Missing from Northern UK Council Store The Express newspaper has reported UK police are investigating the disappearances of potential treasures from council storerooms: "Metal detectorists' possible treasures 'worth thousands' vanish from safety of store room" (Ian Randall, Nov 14th 2022): An investigation has been launched after a spate of disappearances of potential treasures from secured council storerooms - amid fears of an inside job. The missing artefacts were unearthed by metal detectorists across Cumbria and Lancashire over the last four years, and are believed to have been worth thousands of pounds in total. The finds had been handed over to the authorities, pending an inquest to determine whether or not they officially constituted treasures. However, the detectorists fear that the missing items may now have been secreted into the antiquities black market. One unnamed metal detectorist told the Sun: “This is devastating for us personally but also for the nation. “Some of these items had not been held by human hands since the Bronze Age. “But after we found them and passed them to officials, they have vanished into thin air.” Another detectorist, Peter Major of Barrow - whose finds had included a set of 3,500-year-old, Bronze Age [pal]stave axe heads - added: “For two-and-a-half years I heard nothing, so went to see them and was told that one of my axe heads and all the coins had vanished. “I began speaking to other detectorists and was shocked to find I wasn’t alone.” [...] A British Museum spokesperson said: ‘As the investigation is ongoing it would not be appropriate to comment any further at this stage.’ 'Further'? On the forums, information gathering is in full flow: Post by justinbell » Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:11 pm Missing items from PAS Evening all, I wondered if any other members have had notification about finds being either lost, misplaced or even stolen from / by the PAS in Cumbria". [...] "This topic has 31 replies You must be a registered member and logged in to view the replies in this topic". So the public cannot see what is happening to the public's heritage, eh? Smart move guys. Comments underneath the Express article include: Phoenixxxx 6 HRS AGO So let me get this right? By law you have to give it to a bunch of toffs at the Council and they then potentially go on holiday and build an extension? Rombalds way 1 DAY AGO And they have the cheek to bang on about night hawks and stealing the nations heritage. This is disgusting and I'd be absolutely fuming if it was my finds stolen. Walter Drizzle 1 DAY AGO A cop out by the British Museum... no comment. It's all going the way of not my problem. Then who's responsible for finds to be kept safe. happy wanderer 3 DAYS AGO Do the right thing then find it’s been stolen. Better not handing it in then Let us just be clear, because it seems the Express' journalist is not, if any objects have been mislaid in or from the Preston storerooms, it is not just the finders that are deprived of them but landowners are deprived of their property. Did the BM press release on behalf of the Portable Antiquities Scheme and its partners neglect to say this? paul-barford.blogspot.com/2022/11/detectorists-finds-among-items.html
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Helen is awesome... I've always liked how she explains things
Totally agree. I'm not sure she's all that into being interviewed, but she's fascinating to listen to because she explains things very well. So I hope she gets used to all of us peering in to watch her think and share her wisdom.
Helen's fantastic, I hope she continues to feature a lot. What a breadth of knowledge.
I love that she says when she doesn't know something instead of pretending to know. A sign of integrity. Thank you HG for many years of information and entertainment!
Always enjoyed Helen in the previous series and now.
Helen’s spark and enthusiasm are a joy!
We love you Helen! Please keep teaching us.
great to see helen still working with time team ,, a great little video guys
I think a montage of all Matt's hairstyles over 30 years is needed.
I love her enthusiasm and great
knowledge it is a delight to listen to Helen .
Got to love Helen, she just brings such an amazing vibe to the whole team
Charming interview-and worth a second view!
Helen is fabulous!
Loved watching Ms. Geake on the show.
Dr Geake I think
@@gchecosse You are correct.
Aw, I am so happy to hear preceptory pronounced properly. It isn't easy to correct a word once it has set, either. Great interview. A trove of information... including the commandery and all of the roles! Great stuff from the three of you! 👏 👍
Wow. Neat catch Helen. Preceptory and Commandery being the same explains some oddities I remember noticing in some of the history books. The names’ being in different languages would cover most of them. Crud, and here we were all thinking they were different things!
I love Helen, she's brilliant ! Also, she never looks any older. How does she do it ?
So intelligent and well-spoken. A pleasure to listen to, always.
Yes, agree! For me Helen speaks so well that I understand what she says even with this incredible bad sound. English is my second language (I'm swedish)
She is a treasure and still a beauty!🤗
I am a freak for the Geake.
Loving the behind the scenes stuff
GREAT TO SEE AND HEAR U HELEN
Helen is a rockstar :)
Good evening from Norway 🇧🇻
Excellent piece!
Thanks Helen for answering my question
Helen has brains and beauty. The perfect woman.❤❤❤
As others have noted, the sound quality was ....sub-optimal... to be kind. Please remember that a good proportion of your audience will be hearing-challenged and pay closer attention to this aspect of what is otherwise, excellent content. Thank you.
just before i wanted to reply to that i found YOUR reply.
the sound is indeed horrible. only when i put on my headphone could i understand anything. and it is for sure not the quality of my speakers or computer. An ambulance for sure is a fine thing. but apparently NOT suited for an interview?
A young TH-camr will do better sound just by accident. It's hard doing this bad sound.
This must be fixed or it would be better with other people do this job interviewing the professional Helen. It's your job!
It’s a quick and ready interview in some sort of huge RV which inevitably has dreadful acoustics…. They aren’t using a soundman - possibly to save cash…however a spot mike or lavalier mikes presumably don’t alienate the Union…..the camera mike might be good enough usually - it’s the acoustics which are bad
so cool.
Fascinating discussion, bit when Helen was counting people ( abt 6 mins in) it was like two of them had got away and were walking outside in the rain.
Recently visited the St.Johns museum in London and yes the knights have a lineage to the modern day St. Johns Ambulance but there's a whole lot of mystery around them and the Crusades, Malta and Rhodes. Fascinating. The Knights of St. John was almost a sovereign state- able to issue passports, though that is changing, I understand.
The Knights of St John had to pull out of Jerusalem, Rhodes and Malta as the Saracens and later Turks took over the Near East from the Crusaders, but before that they had acquired some of the properties the Knights Templar had lost when they were suppressed.
During the reformation they were broken up and there are various successor organisations in protestant countries including England, often with royal and church patronage. The English Order belongs to the Church of England and seems to own the St John Ambulance Brigade. They have "Serving Brothers" and even issue knighthoods, though a KStJ is not allowed to call himself "Sir."
The Sovereign Military Order of St John lives in Rome and is affiliated with the Vatican. Their "sovereignty" is limited to their building.
The various "Orders of Chivalry" used to be a hobby for European aristocrats who like dressing up and giving each other medals and titles, but the whole thing has become democratized and there are many such "Orders" of quite recent origin with more or less bogus histories.
@@faithlesshound5621 one might add that the Sovereign Order of Malta, to use its short name, is one of a very few entities with a peculiar status under international law called ‘sui generis’ or of its own kind. In the order’s case this status comes from its history of ruling Rhodes and later Malta but also from its independence from the Holy See. It may have its base in the Vatican but it wouldn’t have an ambassador to the Holy See if it were ‘affiliated’ as you say. The Holy See btw is another one of those funny sui generis entities. Ambassadors are appointed to it, not the Vatican.
Another comparable entity, recognised by basically all nations of the world as having its own personality under international law is theInternational Committee of the Red Cross or ICRC. The ICRC is basically a private organisation under Swiss law. It could be like the pigeon fanciers club. However, because this club of Swiss citizens, in the sixties of the 19th Cent. instigated the codification of a hefty chunk of the Law of War in the Geneva Conventions it became a body with a personality recognised under international law. All the nations that ratified the Geneva Conventions gave the ICRC the role of independent guardian of the Conventions and has the right to treat with sovereign nations on a basis regulated by international law.
Today, the Order of Malta maintains diplomatic relations with some 100 countries to further its humanitarian initiatives in an independent and apolitical fashion. The ICRC’s diplomatic relations are even wider spread in the aim to promote and further develop the law of war treaties at the heart of which are the now four Geneva Conventions of 1949 and to support its neutral, independent and impartial, humanitarian action.
@@thomasmerkelbach6228 "sui generis" = "of it's own kind."
"Sovereign Citizens" in the US have their own mythology, one of the facets of which is the Universal Postal Union, through which they derive some of their imaginary powers.
@@faithlesshound5621 the difference being that these powers are not recognised even on a national level let alone by the community of nations 😀
Helen, to millions of Us, seeing you back is much like seeing an old friend. I hope BBC is smart enough to make you a permanent figure in Time Team's 2nd life.
BBC had nothing to do with this it's purely self produced by Tim Taylor who owns the rights.
@Josh Schneider gee, Josh, I am so glad you got that off your chest.
Helen raised a family and worked. She is wonder woman
thank you
Way to turn the tables, Dr. Geake! 😁
I wish I could support you guys with enumeration, but alas I can't,I have watched time team since 1994 ,my one wish is to participate in a dig,thank you all
Happy New year.lo
She is still so lovely!
Greetings from a Time Team fan in Sweden👍
time team used to keep me company so well, i really enjoyed it.. thought of mick and tony and Phil etc as friends lol..
so its lovely to see and hear Helen again..
but what IS a preceptory?? a medieval hospital?
It might have had a hospice on sight but it's more a monastic administrative centre than anything. In modern military terms, we'd probably call it a Headquarters.
Beautiful lady.
I love helen 8).
What's the difference between Hospitaller's and Templars ?
I think the most important thing that I learned from watching Time Team is just how incredibly interesting and attractive intelligent people are. I'm so happy I waited until I found my nerd. 🤗
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Excellent as usual Helen and Time Team, this informs my research into Hospitalliers and Preceptories, Were French hospitalliers similar? Are the Malta records written in Latin, French or another language?
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We're preceptorys for local members only?
I'm 43 now, but if I was much younger, instead of having posters of supermodels in bikinis on my wall, I would have much rather a poster of Helen, holding her trowel in an archaeological trench! I give anything to walk a field, go metal detecting, fossilic, or rockhound with her if she ever came to the U.S.! It'd be a dream date to grab a beer and a good meal and discuss our finds afterwards! But a woman that perfect has to be taken! I love you guys!!!
I wonder if a king’s jewels were similarly a symbol of office
I hate how none of them have aged at all 😂❤
Is it too late to put forward a question for Helen?
No. Unfortunately you're only allowed one question and you just used it.
Unfortunately it is 😊
My name is Levi Geake. I live in Brisbane, Australia. It would be interesting to know if we're related considering our unique last name! haha
No expense spent on the sound!
Surely the production team could spare one lavalier mic for Ms Geake?
Why would a manor “in a remote location” need to welcome pilgrims? Pilgrims are going to want to stick to the main roadways/routes/etc (Unless it was the place that the pilgrims wanted to go to, in which case it wouldn’t be in a remote location).
Love these kinds of talks. Just a heads up, though. The audio is very echoey. Not sure if that’s because you recorded it inside an enclosed space, or if you weren’t close enough to the microphone, but portions of what you say are not readily audible.
Little comment on the answer to the first question - you do have to be Christian to be in the Order of St John I believe, but not to be a volunteer for St John Ambulance. So the bit about swearing oaths etc might be true for the chivalric order but not for the first aid volunteering organisation.
Elizabeth D
Brilliant interview however you would think that with all your technology you would be able to get a better sound quality.
The audio is horrible.
How many slaves? This was a time when churches were ridiculed if they had a low number of slaves.
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Erm…prob shouldn’t say this in todays environment…but always had a thing for Helen Geake that just seems to deepen with age…I’ll shut up now.
nice with question time - but why is the sound so horrible -makes it hard to enjoy ! :(
Adverts after a few seconds of the programme. TH-cam is becoming unwatchable.
Sounds like you don't have an Ad Blocker.
Amazingly crap sound for a professional outfit. Again.
Are you married Helen?
Does Helen suggest that we should all do the right thing with finds?
Friday, 18 November 2022
Detectorists' Finds Among Items Reportedly Missing from Northern UK Council Store
The Express newspaper has reported UK police are investigating the disappearances of potential treasures from council storerooms: "Metal detectorists' possible treasures 'worth thousands' vanish from safety of store room" (Ian Randall, Nov 14th 2022):
An investigation has been launched after a spate of disappearances of potential treasures from secured council storerooms - amid fears of an inside job. The missing artefacts were unearthed by metal detectorists across Cumbria and Lancashire over the last four years, and are believed to have been worth thousands of pounds in total. The finds had been handed over to the authorities, pending an inquest to determine whether or not they officially constituted treasures. However, the detectorists fear that the missing items may now have been secreted into the antiquities black market. One unnamed metal detectorist told the Sun: “This is devastating for us personally but also for the nation. “Some of these items had not been held by human hands since the Bronze Age. “But after we found them and passed them to officials, they have vanished into thin air.”
Another detectorist, Peter Major of Barrow - whose finds had included a set of 3,500-year-old, Bronze Age [pal]stave axe heads - added: “For two-and-a-half years I heard nothing, so went to see them and was told that one of my axe heads and all the coins had vanished. “I began speaking to other detectorists and was shocked to find I wasn’t alone.” [...] A British Museum spokesperson said: ‘As the investigation is ongoing it would not be appropriate to comment any further at this stage.’
'Further'? On the forums, information gathering is in full flow:
Post by justinbell » Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:11 pm Missing items from PAS Evening all, I wondered if any other members have had notification about finds being either lost, misplaced or even stolen from / by the PAS in Cumbria". [...] "This topic has 31 replies You must be a registered member and logged in to view the replies in this topic".
So the public cannot see what is happening to the public's heritage, eh? Smart move guys.
Comments underneath the Express article include:
Phoenixxxx 6 HRS AGO
So let me get this right? By law you have to give it to a bunch of toffs at the Council and they then potentially go on holiday and build an extension?
Rombalds way 1 DAY AGO
And they have the cheek to bang on about night hawks and stealing the nations heritage. This is disgusting and I'd be absolutely fuming if it was my finds stolen.
Walter Drizzle 1 DAY AGO
A cop out by the British Museum... no comment. It's all going the way of not my problem. Then who's responsible for finds to be kept safe.
happy wanderer 3 DAYS AGO
Do the right thing then find it’s been stolen. Better not handing it in then
Let us just be clear, because it seems the Express' journalist is not, if any objects have been mislaid in or from the Preston storerooms, it is not just the finders that are deprived of them but landowners are deprived of their property. Did the BM press release on behalf of the Portable Antiquities Scheme and its partners neglect to say this?
paul-barford.blogspot.com/2022/11/detectorists-finds-among-items.html
Still kept her looks ❤️