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@@MusicMattersGB Hi Gareth. I've been researching appoggiatura and some people teach it as a leap or skip up and step down. The opposite from the escape note! I'm a bit confused. Thanks in advance and keep safe.
A big thanks to you Sir. You are great, I really need this lesson ornaments and you explain very well Sir, I'm appreciate your lesson . Thank you so much Sir From Mauritius
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Great video! Thank you for explaining all of the main ornaments in one condensed video, in a very clear way and with demonstrations. I finally understand all of these weird symbols I've kind of been avoiding for years ^^
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This was a nice clear explanation. Thanks. By the way, I believe the correct pronunciation of "acciaccatura" is something like "a-chak-a-tura". (Generally, the "ch" sound in Italian is written as "ci".)
Hi Gareth, thanks for your precious work. As an Italian, I can confirm that the pronunciation is "at-chak-ka-tu-ra" as suggested, at least here in Italy. But I guess it may be accepted the way you say it among English speakers.
I've come back to the piano after a twenty year absence, I can't use the pedals so I chose to start with Bach, whose music I love and know very well. I'd forgotten the exact details of some ornaments and you explained them way better than some of the misinformed 'teachers' on TH-cam, thank you.
Great video, thank you for posting! I have not played piano in many years and am beginning to dust off my skills while in quarantine. This was very helpful. Hello from Chicago, USA!
Love it! I first came across ornaments with my guitar pro software because it had all these symbols I've never seen! Now I know what all of them are! Great video!
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I never understood why they just didnt write out the quavers of the appoggiatura and as you even said it would be "perfectly possible" but your video made it clear that this way the composer shows which are the main melody notes and that the appogg is subordinate to the main melody notes. Thank you!
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The dictionary shows that an appoggiatura can be played short like an acciaccatura if it has the slash through the stem. I have also seen two textbooks that say the grace note at the beginning in Mozart's piano sonata K. 333 was meant to be played as a 16th note.
I enjoyed your video so much! So well explained! Just two comments: I'm not italian, but I think the first double cc in "acciaccatura" are pronounced with a "ch" sound (like in "check"); and the "mordent" in baroque style should (generally) begin with the upper note, like the trill.
You’re probably right about the Italian. It’s pronounced both ways in many countries. I agree re the mordent generally starting on the upper note although there is variation of approach to that depending on the musical circumstances.
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A 16 minute lesson that saves us hours of research in a music theory book. Merci. Is there a difference in ornamentation on the different keyboard instruments? Would a harpsichord or an organ player have the same ornaments?
Basically they have the same ornaments. Slight differences can occur between periods eg Baroque and Classical trills tend to begin on the note above; Romantic trills tend to start on the printed note.
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Great presentation. thank you. Just what I need right now. I hope someday you bone up on Partimento and the Rule of the Octave, as there are few videos like this...yet, focused on the revival of Neapolitan improvisation.
Hello! amazing channel and explanation!! I wonder if you could make a video of an in depth explanation on this, like use a love song with overuse, overshadowing of notes vs the approriate way on putting them. THANK YOU!!!
Hello, I would like to ask 2 questions. 1. The grace notes in appogiaturas you wrote it with a crochet. But what if the grace notes there are written with quavers or semiquavers, is there a difference? Does that affect the note values? 2. And how about double appogiaturas, I see they are usually written in semiquavers, so how to divide the note values? Thanks.
Hi. There’s no difference in treatment between single double or triple appoggiaturas. Quaver or semiquaver appoggiaturas might imply a quicker appoggiatura.
Very good. You could have mentioned non-chord tones, which is (usually) part of the definition of an ornament, but that might have obscured the clarity of this presentation . . . ♫
Always crystal clear and super helpful Maestro Gareth. I have two questions regarding the turn, if I may. First question: I have never seen inverted turns written with crossing lines, but rather like normal turn signs with the first hump going down, as if mirrored along a horizontal axis; is that exactly the same inverted turn or does it mean anything else? Second question is how to play a standing turn (like S) and its inverted homologous. Finally, I'd love if you considered posting a video on more ornamentation signs e.g. double mordents, embellished with parenthesis-like heads and tails, and so on. Thanks a lot for your great teaching! Stefano from Italy
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You can read a complete list of ornaments, as far as we know today, in Thierry Mathis, Le Clavecin en France (Latour) There is about 23. The real problem is to play the ornaments which are not written down. There are a few rules but mostly it is a matter of taste. But what is taste?
Hi ! Thank you so much for your videos Gareth ! I learn so much interesting stuff on your channel 😁 Yet, i have a question about the accidental sign (which means "natural" if i'm not wrong)... Is it possible to have a flat or sharp sign under or above an ornament symbol instead of this accidental sign ? Let's imagine i want to play a turn over the note E while the piece is in C major scale If it is a regular turn i should play F E D E But let's say i want to play F E Eb E (because i modulated to C minor scale or whatever) Could i put a "b" under the turn sign to indicate to play Eb instead of D while doing the turn ? Same question with a sharp sign above the turn sign... Thanks ! 😁
So helpful, thanks! Is there a simple way to denote whether a trill speeds up or slows down? Writing them out note-by-note get very rhythmically confusing for the players, and I've been looking for a better way to notate this type of thing.
This is really the point of ornamentation. We don’t really want to play ornaments mathematically. The notion of speeding up into a trill for example helps to make the trill expressive and more integrated into the melodic line.
I read somewhere that the accacciatura is played just slightly before the beat with the main note landing on the beat, is this correct? You never mentioned the placement in the video. Thank you
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Good explanation of the Appoggiatura as regards time value, but I wish Gareth had made it clear that the stress is on the ornamental note, played on the beat. In other words, “Appoggiaturas are louder than the following tone.” (C.P.E. Bach) To make this more evident for those of us who did not begin our keyboard studies in the 18th century, the slur marking is often used.
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Hi Gareth, great video. The translation is done.
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This is the best explanation I have seen on Baroque ornaments. Thank you so much!
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I just started a piece with a ton of ornaments....and this video arrived like a godsend!
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Honestly one of the best channels on TH-cam. Whenever I have a question I can always come here and you always have the answer.
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Amazing teaching. Here is where the wheat distinctly separate from the chaff . You listen one time, all you need to know is given to you. Respect.
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Brilliant lesson. Ornament on the mantlepiece & Pink elephant, hits home! Thanks again and keep safe you and yours.
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@@MusicMattersGB Hi Gareth. I've been researching appoggiatura and some people teach it as a leap or skip up and step down. The opposite from the escape note! I'm a bit confused. Thanks in advance and keep safe.
Thank you very much, clearly explained, very helpful. Greetings from Mexico.
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Thank you so much.. Its very helpful.. Learning from you more then from my teacher..
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A big thanks to you Sir. You are great, I really need this lesson ornaments and you explain very well Sir, I'm appreciate your lesson . Thank you so much Sir From Mauritius
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You are the best, the most thorough, the clearest!
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Excellent tutorial on this topic. Thank you and God bless you.
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Many thanks for your masterclass on this topic, Sir!
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One of the best music theory videos I have viewed. Top work Gareth.
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You´ve influenced a lot of people around the world! Congrats.
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Great video! Thank you for explaining all of the main ornaments in one condensed video, in a very clear way and with demonstrations. I finally understand all of these weird symbols I've kind of been avoiding for years ^^
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Great video! Particularly liked the end where you said to play them subtly.
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Excellent lesson!
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Thanks so much. I'm a Rock player undertaking my first Bach pieces. So helpful. That will take my fear of ornaments away. Thankyou
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Beautifully explained thank you
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A wonderful lecture! Helps me with my irish fiddle ornaments.
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Thanks so much. That is the best an easiest to understand description of ornaments I have ever seen. I will refer to this often.
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Thank you vere much. Your explanation helped me a lot..
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This was a nice clear explanation. Thanks. By the way, I believe the correct pronunciation of "acciaccatura" is something like "a-chak-a-tura". (Generally, the "ch" sound in Italian is written as "ci".)
A pleasure. Yes, the pronunciation varies
Hi Gareth, thanks for your precious work. As an Italian, I can confirm that the pronunciation is "at-chak-ka-tu-ra" as suggested, at least here in Italy. But I guess it may be accepted the way you say it among English speakers.
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I've come back to the piano after a twenty year absence, I can't use the pedals so I chose to start with Bach, whose music I love and know very well. I'd forgotten the exact details of some ornaments and you explained them way better than some of the misinformed 'teachers' on TH-cam, thank you.
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Very informative video, I needed a refresher. Thanks 🙏🏻
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Well done,star man cleared up 63years of ignorance! Many thanks ,John hills
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Explained so clearly. Will share this.
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One of the best explanations I have seen.
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Great video, thank you for posting! I have not played piano in many years and am beginning to dust off my skills while in quarantine. This was very helpful. Hello from Chicago, USA!
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Love it! I first came across ornaments with my guitar pro software because it had all these symbols I've never seen! Now I know what all of them are! Great video!
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I never understood why they just didnt write out the quavers of the appoggiatura and as you even said it would be "perfectly possible" but your video made it clear that this way the composer shows which are the main melody notes and that the appogg is subordinate to the main melody notes. Thank you!
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This explanation was fantastic, thank you so much!
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Thank you!! You made ornaments so simply and fun😍
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Great explanation and run through
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OMG thank you so much! So clear and to the point. Loved the video and it helped me a lot.
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Thank you for the very clear instruction! Very helpful!
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excellent explanation. thank you.
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Beautiful Explanation! Crystal clear..
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The dictionary shows that an appoggiatura can be played short like an acciaccatura if it has the slash through the stem. I have also seen two textbooks that say the grace note at the beginning in Mozart's piano sonata K. 333 was meant to be played as a 16th note.
The little line indicates that it is an acciaccatura.
Which dictionary? The line through the note makes it an Acciaccatura-quite different from an Appoggiatura.
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01:53 Appoggiatura
04:05 Acciaccatura
05:19 Turn / gruppetto
06:25 Trill
09:06 Mordent
09:56 Inverted turn / gruppetto
12:21 Lower mordent
13:29 Realization
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Amazing accurate teaching
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Just two comments: I'm not italian, but I think the first double cc in "acciaccatura" are pronounced with a "ch" sound (like in "check"); and the "mordent" in baroque style should (generally) begin with the upper note, like the trill.
You’re probably right about the Italian. It’s pronounced both ways in many countries. I agree re the mordent generally starting on the upper note although there is variation of approach to that depending on the musical circumstances.
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Well, if there is such a thing as a "natural teacher", you are a very good example. Thank you for all these didactic videos!
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A 16 minute lesson that saves us hours of research in a music theory book. Merci.
Is there a difference in ornamentation on the different keyboard instruments?
Would a harpsichord or an organ player have the same ornaments?
Basically they have the same ornaments. Slight differences can occur between periods eg Baroque and Classical trills tend to begin on the note above; Romantic trills tend to start on the printed note.
This is a fabulous lesson, Gavin! So infirnative! Thank you! 🙏
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Great presentation. thank you. Just what I need right now. I hope someday you bone up on Partimento and the Rule of the Octave, as there are few videos like this...yet, focused on the revival of Neapolitan improvisation.
We have a video on Partimento.
This was so useful. Thanks. 😌
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Great Tutorial!! Thank You Sir!
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Hello! amazing channel and explanation!! I wonder if you could make a video of an in depth explanation on this, like use a love song with overuse, overshadowing of notes vs the approriate way on putting them. THANK YOU!!!
We could do that
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Hello, I would like to ask 2 questions.
1. The grace notes in appogiaturas you wrote it with a crochet. But what if the grace notes there are written with quavers or semiquavers, is there a difference? Does that affect the note values?
2. And how about double appogiaturas, I see they are usually written in semiquavers, so how to divide the note values?
Thanks.
Hi. There’s no difference in treatment between single double or triple appoggiaturas. Quaver or semiquaver appoggiaturas might imply a quicker appoggiatura.
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This was so informative
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Demystified Ornaments for me thank you very much🎼🎹
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Thank you for this video, it is very helpful since I didn't have any theory lessons in lockdown!
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Really useful. Many thanks
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Very good. You could have mentioned non-chord tones, which is (usually) part of the definition of an ornament, but that might have obscured the clarity of this presentation . . . ♫
Fair point
Always crystal clear and super helpful Maestro Gareth. I have two questions regarding the turn, if I may.
First question: I have never seen inverted turns written with crossing lines, but rather like normal turn signs with the first hump going down, as if mirrored along a horizontal axis; is that exactly the same inverted turn or does it mean anything else?
Second question is how to play a standing turn (like S) and its inverted homologous.
Finally, I'd love if you considered posting a video on more ornamentation signs e.g. double mordents, embellished with parenthesis-like heads and tails, and so on.
Thanks a lot for your great teaching!
Stefano from Italy
Thanks for your kind words. Of course there’s a great deal of flexibility about ornament signs and what they mean in relation to different periods and styles. This video focuses on the mainstream. Can you give an example of a piece containing an S sign? Much more at www.mmcourses.co.uk including details of our online courses and of our exciting Maestros programme.
Good, thank you for sharing
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Excelente gracias!
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Very Nice!
😀
would these be similar to Slides and hammer-ons, and pull offs in blues music?
They’re both ways of ornamenting a line.
Good one! Thanks!
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Hey Music Matters Great VIdeo!!! Just out of curiosity what program did you use to make the keyboard play with colors?
Thanks. It’s called synthesia.
You can read a complete list of ornaments, as far as we know today, in
Thierry Mathis, Le Clavecin en France (Latour)
There is about 23. The real problem is to play the ornaments which are not written down. There are a few rules but mostly it is a matter of taste. But what is taste?
The guidance given in that source is valuable and one can inject taste from there. Thanks for drawing attention to it.
Thank you so much
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Bless you sir
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Hi ! Thank you so much for your videos Gareth ! I learn so much interesting stuff on your channel 😁
Yet, i have a question about the accidental sign (which means "natural" if i'm not wrong)...
Is it possible to have a flat or sharp sign under or above an ornament symbol instead of this accidental sign ?
Let's imagine i want to play a turn over the note E while the piece is in C major scale
If it is a regular turn i should play F E D E
But let's say i want to play F E Eb E (because i modulated to C minor scale or whatever)
Could i put a "b" under the turn sign to indicate to play Eb instead of D while doing the turn ?
Same question with a sharp sign above the turn sign...
Thanks ! 😁
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So helpful, thanks! Is there a simple way to denote whether a trill speeds up or slows down? Writing them out note-by-note get very rhythmically confusing for the players, and I've been looking for a better way to notate this type of thing.
This is really the point of ornamentation. We don’t really want to play ornaments mathematically. The notion of speeding up into a trill for example helps to make the trill expressive and more integrated into the melodic line.
I read somewhere that the accacciatura is played just slightly before the beat with the main note landing on the beat, is this correct? You never mentioned the placement in the video. Thank you
There are different schools of thought on that topic.
I watched all your videos and mlst of all this alot
Wuy did i spell mlst anyways most
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How do you play like an appoggiatura with a tie note... so the appggiatura falls on to like two notes ..,does that make sense
The appoggiatura generally takes half the value of whatever follows.
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I am confused when should I play grace note before the beat or on the beat?
It rather depends on the situation but usually they come on the beat.
Excellent - just what the doctor ordered.
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Good explanation of the Appoggiatura as regards time value, but I wish Gareth had made it clear that the stress is on the ornamental note, played on the beat. In other words, “Appoggiaturas are louder than the following tone.” (C.P.E. Bach) To make this more evident for those of us who did not begin our keyboard studies in the 18th century, the slur marking is often used.
You’re absolutely right. Apologies if that didn’t come across sufficiently clearly.