The Phantom speech becoming more recognizable as you install more neuromods is something I completely missed. Insane how much polish and detail went into this game.
What's also cool: From the very beginning, if you turn on subtitles for everything (not just cutscenes), you will get subtitles of what the phantoms are saying. This is especially disturbing on Mooncrash when, playing as Riley Yu, you can run into a phantom that says "What's wrong? You don't remember me? We worked together"
yeah see i didnt want to be a typhon(plot twist, hahah) i didnt think of it almost at all, until i got stuck at one point, watched one quick walkthrough and the person mentioned if you upgrade those abilities you become recognized as such.. so i stuck with the q-beam OP weapon along with shottie and pistol mostly and hacks.. so I would have never noticed that,. But now I know what I will do on my 2nd go round!
Bethesda really did dirty to Prey 2017. This games intended name was Neuroshock but Bethesda forced Arkane to change it. Obviously original Pray was totally different kind of game and this created lots of confusion and negative press around the launch. So this masterpiece never had the fair change it deserved.
Prey is my 3rd favorite Bethesda game. After New Vegas and Skyrim, mainly due to the lack of customization and variety of playstyle. That being said It was the best camping experience I’ve had out of the three
I think that the poster near the door in Morgan's room has a different meaning than what you described. I think this is a depiction of the Great Filter, another concept in the Fermi Paradox. Basically the Great Filter is the idea that the reason there are so few aliens is that there is some sort of "filter" preventing species from achieving higher levels of intelligence and progress, so the few that do are extremely rare. This comes with speculation of whether or not humanity has passed the filter or is stuck behind it. I think the poster is an illustration of one species (possibly the typhon) breaking trough the great filter, where others have failed.
There's also the Omega symbol in the center of the red line towards the upper portion, implying the Typhon were able to "break through" and get past "the end." Edit: It could also be implying that the Typhon are the great filter. Which is the theory I think I buy in to.
@@grosstoastie1216 necro - but there's also an Alpha symbol at the bottom. The green line trailing the breakthrough object starts at Alpha, its own boundary being a horizontal green line.
Pretty much every year from 2005-2018 was great. Things imo went downhill after 2018. I find myself playing games more from like 2007-2018 because I find them more fun vs current games.
I purchased Prey in 2024 after a deep discount on the PS Store. It was like $10. And after completing it, it’s my current GOTY for 2024. It’s a shame that such a talented studio got shut down 😞
On your last point, I was one of those people that didn't give the game a chance. I remember watching E3 with some of my friends when they announced Mooncrash. I said, and I quote, "Lmao, didn't nobody like that game? Why would they make a DLC?", to which one of my friends said "What? People loved that game." I had only heard the "professional" reviews, he heard from the actual players. So a couple days later, I ended up buying the game on sale, and it's now one of my all-time favorites. Really just goes to show how one bad review from a bad reviewer working for a bad review site can completely sway public opinion.
For me, the game was a love at first sight. I've spent so many hours in it snooping around, blasting bullets and alien powers. My first playthrough was entirely spoiler free, and when I came to that ending... it was nothing but mindblowing to me. Elevating, even. It's a leson about empathy and the human condition, the self. I might be sappy and weird, but it really touched me and stuck with me. I wish more people saw this game for what it was and all its beautiful qualities. I wish I could go back and play it again for the first time.Thank you for making this video
I feel the same way, i have so many hours in this and my playtroughs are fun and different each time. Allways something i have missed. For me this is a love letter.
@@mais4u Absolutely is! Prey is just a comfort game for me. I did not like Mooncrash tho, I really dont like rogue likes and the like. I think id love to see a Prey 2 one day but in te same time Im just wary of the potential. What if its awful? I want this franchise to get more love but I also dont want it to be ruined, you get me
@@yeahnah27I think the original has an entire world and discovery element that Moonrise is missing. I do like Moonrise though because you get to mess around with stuff you missed in the game.
I think this wasn't intentional, but that mimic that's trapped inside a room with 3 objects can turn into a static model of Morgan if you jump into one of the compartments. Maybe this is a leftover from that scrapped mechanic where they turn into humans.
I played through this exact part today, the greater mimic for me turned into the Yu family portrait picture frame. Pretty cool because that picture wasn't even in the room when I looked around.
During my playthrough of the game, the ending really was mindblowing. The facts that Alex Yu is even attempting to create a mimic to understand the human, the real world is already destroyed and everything you experienced was a simulation where your every actions was recorded. I only finished it once, even attempting to playing it on hard with the least amount of upgrade was an interesting challenge.
@@FranklyGaming ok, may i ask why? i just started it, and "frankly" am on the fence, haha.. but if i am missing a key element then i will look a bit closer. i am struggling with the whole, even though i grinded to get these items, they cant all be bought next round.. and you can buy q-cells but at least for 45 min i cant seem to find the gun, which for me would help defeat the barrage of monsters in the escape pod.. i never seem to have enough ammo in the pistol, but have shotgun ammo but no fabricator plan etc.. thats where i am at after about 2 or 3 days and maybe 10 retries.. any feedback is appreciated man. nonetheless, I can say with confidence, that if the creators havent viewed this they are missing out, and if they have, not only would they be proud, they should invite you to add content to prey 2 .. optimistic? sure.. great idea? fk yeah!
@@johnlombardo7816biggest thing about this game is to explore as much as possible, in the atrium there is a security office near the bottom of the stairs leading to Morgan’s office, in there you will find the shotgun, ask anymore questions you got and I’ll respond as quick as I can
"What does it look like, the shape in the glass" was also a phrase the psychologist Mathias Kohl said to Dr. Calvino. Not only this but every phrase the phantoms repeat is from somebody or some audio log that Morgan has gone through. This makes me feel like the simulation, when repeated remembers the previous thigs that Morgan did and adjusts itself or something.
I hope the devs know that soo many people, including me loved this game. I wasnt even aware that it hadn't been a huge sucess for them. I always hoped for a sequel😢
I’m a little late, but as you said several times (and cannot be said enough), Prey is an incredible game and it is truly sad how underrated it still is 6 years later. I don’t know what Prey 2 would be, where or when or how it would take place, but I do hope that one day we’ll see it. And I may have to go look for it on steam…
@@mulhollanddrivehobo6910 imagine the I and It route for prey 2 is that Morgan kills all the remaining humans and fully embraces The Typhon. Becoming a new apex typhon.
I really liked this game. It had a surprisingly deep story and lots of interesting lore. Everything made sense as well. No major plot holes. The game play was also unique. Shame that more people didn't play it
is Deadloop their "sequel" to this, ie studios next game.... it got praised and sold decently. Has Prey:Mooncrush vibes. So it kinda is sequel without being one(they took concepts from this game where applicable and improved those).
The fact that weekly people have been coming to this video to say how much they loved the game is a testament to how unbearingly poor the management is at Microsoft
My favorite theory (which is admittedly headcannon, far as I'm concerned) is that the Apex (Uber Typhon) is an interdimsional, universe -devouring eldritch horror from beyond space and time.
I got to say my most favorite mechanic in this game is the recycling charges and the builders. It's such a cool thing, I'm honestly sad no other game uses this
Yeah, it took System Shock's recycling mechanic and actually made it great. I never got tired of using the Recyclers and Replicators. It was like Christmas everytime. The addiction to creating Neuromods also made me pause and think if I really should be using so many. There's so many unique experiences in Prey that I've never had before or since in any other game. Perhaps the best immersive sim/shock game ever made.
@@quaker5712 It's one of the few crafting mechanics in games I actually enjoyed. In most games it seems like they stick crafting on as a bonus feature that isn't necessary and doesn't really fit in with the world. It meshes perfectly with the Prey setting and gameplay.
great work again brother! Prey, for me, is one of my all time favorites and I haven't even played mooncrash. I just get that warm cozy feeling every time Morgan boards the helicopter for the "ride around the bay" to that groovy intro music. It's so short but so fantastically done, and is really just a micro representation of the kind or care and quality you get from the rest of the game. Love the icebergs, and keep em coming!
“What does it look like, the shape in the glass?” is a phrase from one of the audio logs, too. It was from the psychologist interviewing the guy who was working on the Looking Glass project about his dreams. It might be a foreshadowing, but it's still explainable by phantoms repeating the phrases they heard. I think it's also said in some in-game source (can't remember if it's Morgan's notes or some document) that phantoms just mimic human speech. 0451 might be a code for the door to LG Studios, but that code itself could very well be a further reference. Kletka means cage in Russian. I do not think Prey and Dishonored can possibly be in the same universe. Prey references the analogues to real-world nations and events all the time, and its world is pretty much exactly Earth, while there is nothing of the sort in Dishonored. 200-something years are not enough for such a change.
200 years ago we didn't have cars, A/C, Television, radio, or even refrigeration. A lot can happen in 200 years. I don't think they're in the same universe either, don't get me wrong. But 200 years is plenty of time to have crazy changes. We couldn't even fly 200 years ago. We now visit space regularly.
@@TenzinBeifongIII I'm not talking about technology. I am talking about geography, biology, and politics. Hell, even physics. While we didn't have TV 200 years ago, we still had Eurasia, Africa and America. Hell, we even already had Antarctica discovered. Absolute majority of current nations and languages existed already, and would even be recognizable to a modern person. Absolute majority of species that exist currently, existed 200 years ago. And we didn't have magic back then, either.
@@Spellweaver5 actually, the majority of species that existed 200 years ago are now extinct. And most of the country borders haves changed so drastically in that time that the global map would be entirely unrecognizable. Not to mention in the Americas alone there has been so much change in the last 200 years. Half of "the United States" hadn't even become states. I want you to take a second and think about how stupid you including "politics" in your comment is. Political climates across the planet have changed and shifted so drastically over the last 200 years that world leaders of that day would zero out of existence simply trying to understand how everything got to the fucking mess of a world we have now. How many languages have died in that time? Also, you may think you're making such a good argument bringing up physics, but you look like a total fool. The last 200 years have brought such insane understanding in that field that Newton would have a heart attack, and he's only been dead 300. Also, barely 300 years ago in the western world, science and medicine were considered somewhat magical. Sorry for pushing the timeline a bit there, but I hope you get my point. I'm not looking at world maps here, and it's obvious that Prey takes place in an alternate timeline/dimension and Dishonored/Deathloop take place in a fictional universe. Never disagreed there. But when trying to take into account everything you mentioned, actually think a little more deeply. The progress of humanity in the last 123 years alone is staggering. I was just playing devil's advocate, but that argument wasn't great.
Yeah indeed. The assumption that he was talking about the simulation was a baffling leap considering this guy was just noting the other voice clips were from transcribe conversations. Also yes, as much as people want to bizarrely link the franchises, the only reason (and it's a bad one for obvious reasons) to believe they're in the same universe is Morgan Yu's safebox in Death of the Outsider.
I'm pretty sure the cut content mimic human became the phantoms later in development. throughout the game we're shown that phantoms are using the human inside of them like a base/skeleton they use to build the rest of themselves, they take random parts of the human like body, name and memories and use those to function on a basic level, they're pretending to be humanoid when that's not a physical configuration natural to them. even our player phantom goes back to mimicking Morgan in the good ending, phantoms are just mimics trying to mimic something too complicated for them to figure out (probably the brain specifically).
I’m so glad other people know how incredible and underrated this game is. It’s sooo good, it’s one I go back to consistently. You just want more information, even after playing it inside and out. Incredible.
I remember when prey came out, I watched Markiplier play it all the way through and I was blown away by the game, never knew it wasn’t received well. Love the vid ❤️ keep up the great work!!
@@orbix2645 Man I wish that was true, but there are PLENTY of people that didn't like Prey (2017). Not that it's bad it's just definitely not for everyone
Fantastic work on your Iceberg explanation! You've really created one top tier youtube video! I really agree with you that Prey deserves so much more love, and it's probably the most underrated game to this day. I have never been so appealed to a story in a video game like this one! This could be one of the best concepts ever made, because the possibilities are endless!!! I love what you said about Alex Yu being the villain, probably being the one sacrificing it all. Could it have been his last resort, making him the good guy because he is saving what he can from humanity? Or was he actually bad and only interested in progress? Very interesting! How can we, the community, give what Arkane Game Studios the love that they deserve? Push them into making more games with the same concept and depth!
Thanks so much for the kind words and support! And Arkane probably has some work to do on themselves first since a majority of the studio left during redfall
I feel like from what I've seen, the mistakes most ppl make when they're playing Prey is the fact that they play it like it's a generic action FPS game, like Cod, Far cry, or Doom, Just run and gun everything when they grab a weapon, Like no, every time i see someone play it I want to scream "UTILIZE THE PROPANE TANK! PRESERVE YOUR AMMO! USE MIMICS TO GO THROUGH GAPS!" Etc, etc. It's a bit frustrating that there's still quite many ppl that doesn't think outside the box when all the tools are laid right infront of them, But I guess that's why Immersive sim is not that popular, most ppl are just too used to playing streamlined and straightforward games that they don't realize they can do more than what the game tells them.
I got addicted to using the glue cannon to try and reach random places along with mimic which is the BEST mod imo. Just let me roll around as a cup and let me be! 😂
I love this game. The doll at the end of moon crash can also be a reference to the 1995 movie Screamers, which I suggest people watching. It is about killer machines in a mining colony that self replicate and begin mimicking items to get close to people, including mimicking people. As the film comes to a close there is a shuttle heading towards earth and the character has a teddy bear on board, it fades to black as the bear begins to move.
I never got the Luka side quest. I always killed him as soon as I got the award (even on my first playthrough) because I saw and heard the real chef on transcribes and knew he wasn't the real guy.
I think the phantoms talking might be the typhon hive mind trying to communicate with you considering the player turns out to be a phantom in the ending
Prey was something I'd bought for myself just because I saw it, thought the cover was cool and liked the price tag ---and that ended up COMPLETELY blowing me away. Spent a long time recommending it to anyone with even the slightest interest in space based action games of any kind and genius storytelling or game mechanics. Really happy to see you cover this one. Even though it might not be so fresh anymore - try it for yourself guys. This video is amazing, but you're really going to appreciate it if you give it a try. I recommend easy mode though. Not because it's particularly hard in comparison to other games, but because you don't want to be lost in theorizing and exploring and suddenly stumble into utter chaos (been there, done that) -otherwise it's honestly not that long if you really push through, but there's so much you can get by just being attentive
A little late here, but I just wanted to point out that one of the possible reasons Prey didn't get the recongnition it deserved it most likely the name itself. I remember when it was announced a lot of people got really hyped because they thought it was a reboot of Prey (2006), where you take the place of native american fighting an alien invasion using a mix of alien bio-weapons and spiritual powers, all in a really dark scenario. And, although Prey (2017) is an amazing game like the video points out, the fact that it wasn't some were building it up to be, it killed most of the game's hype and left it a sort of hidden gem.
Probably actually worse than that, the 2006 game had a sequel that got cancelled within 18-24 months of the release of this game. I would have quite enjoyed being a bounty-hunter on an alien world.
So for the kid's drawing of the Phantom, I have a theory. It's a bit off the cuff so may have some things wrong lorewise, but whatever. Maybe rather than being controlled by a telepath, the mother herself had Typhon-related telepath powers. It would make sense there may be types of powers possible that we don't have access to, as a mix of some of them being too early in testing or just gameplay considerations. And the idea of a mother using her newfound powers to make a connection with her child on Earth is kind of sweet. ...The second layer of this theory is that, if that's true, and let's say the mother was visiting her child in their dreams, then the Phantom the child was seeing was actually their mom. The body may have been human, mostly, but the spirit was already something else, long before the breakout.
That doesn't make much sense. Morgan and the volunteers were the only ones receiving typhon-based neuromods. Regina Sellers (the mother of the child) doesn't work anywhere near where she would interact with or know about the typhon, nevermind getting neuromods based on them. And while it's true that she became a phantom, there are already many cases of Talos I staff having nightmares and visions of the typhon, so they're unrelated. The moon also isn't that far from Earth. If the coral can broadcast a signal across interstellar space, then they can certainly reach Earth with their influence. It could also be easier to affect people around neuromods, since all typhon are connected, and if someone with a neuromod is on Earth, the typhon might be able to influence weaker people nearby.
Just barely played this game for the first time and it had now become one of my favorites, the attention to detail in this game is great, hopefully arkane will eventually make a sequel to this gem
Man, Prey is so much fun. Just recently got the achive for playing through it using no Neromods. The fact that the game gives you so many options with how you can approch things makes it a magical game. It really should get more love.
14:22 Had to pause here and look at the poster you mentioned. You suggested that it might be an indication of how the Typhon came from some dark dimension, but when I took a closer look at it I realized that's not what it is AT ALL. It's a visual representation of the Great Filter: a potential solution to the Fermi Paradox. That big red barrier is labelled with Omega ('Ω'), which, in this context, means "the end," clearly denoting it as the filter itself. In the picture, though, something is very clearly breaking through. This begs a few questions... What is the filter, what managed to get past it, and is one of them the Typhon? And OF COURSE I write all that and scroll down to see someone else went and wrote the same thing already. Screw it, have my engagement anyway lol. EDIT: I was listening to the last half of the video on my way home from work and suddenly everything clicked for me around your mention of Alex's password, the description of Chenghuanshen being the "god of the boundary," and showing the Great Filter poster again. Alex is ABSOLUTELY the god of the boundary in Prey, but it isn't something as mundane as a boundary between spaces or dimensions. Rather, he's attempting to open the boundary between EXPERIENCES; between humans and Typhon. Bearing in mind Alex is playing god here, I shall draw your attention to a quote from the Bible where god says: "I am the Alpha and Omega; the beginning and the end." Back to the Great Filter poster. I noticed the Omega symbol on the filter when I wrote my earlier comment, but what I HADN'T noticed previously, because I'm pretty sure it was out of frame, was the ALPHA symbol at the bottom. Putting all this together: Alex is playing god. He is the Alpha and Omega. As an extension of that and in the context of the poster, ALEX IS THE GREAT FILTER. All those dark lines going up to the filter? You're right, they're Typhon, but they're specifically Typhon that Alex created and filtered OUT. Failed attempts at bridging the Human-Typhon experiential barrier. And the one that makes it through is... you. That poster at the very beginning spoils the entire game; you just need to finish the game to realize that. An immediate spoiler hiding in plain sight. Man, this game is truly a masterpiece.
I almost didn't click on this video because "iceberg explained" is not my favourite but this was a blast! I particularly liked the parts that didn't ship in the game. 14:21 I am quite certain the poster represents the Great Filter - that's exactly how it tends to be represented (look up images online!) Alpha for genesis of life and Omega for the _end_ of most lifeforms that die out before elevating even further on the scale of intelligence. A barrier like... typhons hunting down any sentience they can find, for example. The baseball gloves are not typhon -- they actually had that many; according to a reddit comment: > The story behind the gloves is that one of the staff is a famous ex-baseball player (Harley Grainger). He gave everyone signed gloves and nobody uses them or remembers him. 32:50 The nullwave device's function is momentary. I don't think it was ever intended to "stop the signal" - it was probably meant to destroy all typhon material and any _source_ of a potential signal. I also believe it works flawlessly - beating the apex, even. I don't see any failure here. What I do know is this: you're given a quest to scan the coral and it's explained that this data and the very coral itself help the nullwave device by propagating it throughout the whole coral network. The theories are a bit wack, not going to lie: "January caused outbreak" is a really cool idea but I feel like it's a bit unfounded - sure, the motive and the coincidences are very much there but not much else. There is absolutely no hint to any connection with the other suspects. "Yu brothers plot to restart humanity" is totally off-the-wall, I can't even begin to understand how you've arrived at that idea. Why would Alex spend so much effort containing the typhon, going as far as making sure the escape pods don't work? (at least I think that's what he meant when he told an engineer not to repair/install anything in the pods, with the pretext that the parts aren't rated for that) I feel like you give Alex way too much credit. The Evacuation being alien in origin - I also highly doubt that. Especially as the (fictional) author blames "scientists" specifically. I prefer the simple "recycler" theory. All in all, mostly a waste of time engaging in these. Mooncrash actually takes place at a similar time as the main game. I think it might even be on the same date? Anyways, the player character's story is definitely _after_ Talos 1 falls, that I am sure of. All in all, I feel like this barely scratched the surface, let alone an iceberg - there's just so much to Prey! XD
Prey is one of the most criminally underrated game I’ve seen. It’s so interesting and imo a great lovecraftian horror both from the lenses of humans and the otherworldly alien creatures. We have humans dealing with an alien threat they seek to understand, resulting in their own destruction. With the “kill them all” ending its humans ego of thinking they’re so important that fucks them even more. At the same time, the typhon is just a primal creature, just wanting to do its process with no greater thought. Now they’ve been shown the life of a human, experiencing emotions and actions they never would’ve even imagined before. It’ll never go back to what it once was, no longer typhon but also not human. It’s so damn cool to me and the concept of being the alien is something I never saw before and I want so much more of. And more horror that’s horror in its story and not just with jumpscares and basic scare tactics. I hope somehow we can make it clear how great this game is and how much we love it so we can get a sequel or just anything. I’d hate for such an interesting world and concept to never be revisited again.
Yes!! And junji ito hellfire star or whatever where the planet or star was flying around eating other planets. It came to eat us, so we start sacrificing people to appease it when really it has no logic. No emotion. It’s just doing what it does, no intention, no thought. It just is. Creepy!
I absolutely love this game and I’m just starting my journey with it. I love TipToe the Tank’s video on it, and it really inspired me to take a chance on it. I do not regret it. This video just makes me even more excited to complete it. I don’t see it get much praise, and I’m glad someone sees it. I wish SOMA got the love it deserves too. Edit: I like how you accidentally put on screen that the Operators were created in 2022 and 2023. 😭😂
@@FranklyGaming: I will always watch your videos. I can’t believe it took me so long to find the channel. And now that I can watch you stream on Twitch, I get everything. 🥰
@@HeatherHolt soma is on gamepass.. does it play like this game ? i think i downloaded it, started it up then didnt give it a chance.. what is the draw behind it? i know the description sounded good enough to download, but then again it was part of gamepass so i cant say that meant much when i did it.. any info is appreciated, love finding new stuff, and soma is a term used in very many dystopian novels as is a real drug to make people docile to well the world becoming a dystopian future. :/ .. there is likely a lot of predictive programming and easter eggs in that game i bet.. no?
Had no clue about Typhon speech becoming more recognizable. Mind blowing. I find that my favorite games are games where I keep learning new things about them, like Metal Gear Solid and Rain World. This game was an absolute masterpiece, the epitome of the genre.
What a fantastic iceberg! This is the most justice that this game has ever been given, and even I learned so many new things from it. If they can ever release a sequel that expands on this and is bug free, then it would easily be game of the year material. If deathloop gets a 10/10 then Prey 2 would go beyond that.
The picture at ~14:40 is likely about great filters (at least I think that's their name) basically it's thought that space faring species has periods of "great filters", where that species dies due to events both within and without their control (think humans possible nuclear armageddon, it _could happen_ but we would have to navigate through the filter the right way, or some asteroid kills us all, which is always a possibility also).
I still remember the OMGHotBoss password gag. And the D&D character sheet easter eggs. All of the fun and whacky storylines you find throughout the station. Prey is one of the BEST games I've ever played and I'm always sad that it hasn't gotten more love over the years. I first experienced it in 2016 and have played it a couple times since. I might boot it up again now, it's so good.
This game was such a fever dream for me. Being alone on this large, art deco space station created such an unsettling atmosphere for me. It scratched every itch. The added lore that went completely over my head makes it all the more creepy and imaginative.
CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED VIDEO- you did amazing man, so entertaining and very informative. This really made me feel good about liking the game when a lot of people didn't really vibe with it, and I learned a lot. ❤
"what does it look like, the shape in a glass?" Is also a quote said by a scientist (the one working on looking glass(, so it still fits the "they repeat human sentences" theory
This is a great video which just gives massive amounts of material to think about of what actually could be happening, great job. This game is an underrated masterpiece in terms of everything. From the story, gameplay, design, the world it creates, everything is just amazing. Such a shame game like this doesn’t get a sequel and more material when there are endless possibilities and interesting stories to explore in this universe
14:20 Pretty sure that's just a reference to the great filter solution to the Fermi paradox, showing that there's some Omega filter that kills off most civilizations that reach it, with only one civilization managing to survive it and continue existing in the universe.
Game reviews are such an echo chamber. Whatever the first review says, all of them will say. And gamers will just regurgitate that without having even played the game. Prey was the sequel to System Shock I've always wanted. I got the platinum trophy on PlayStation for it and everything. It's a criminally underrated game! Thanks for showing it so much love.
25:07 you said this thing wasn’t a glitch but in fact it was. The player model clips through the window for that frame and so they see through the looking glass on the inside of the helicopter. The devs didn’t notice it until the game shipped but kept it in because they realized it foreshadowed the twist at the beginning.
This game just honestly made me think about the universe and Alien life for hours and hours... Now I can't look at the sky or stars the same way... This is what a masterpiece is in my opinion... In my book, a game is a masterpiece when it makes you question reality and the things you know about what's possible or what's not... The competent devs behind this deserve way more credit and appreciation for this masterpiece. Bioshock, Amnesia the bunker, Lies of P, Detroit Become Human, Dead Space, and some others I don't remember from the top of my head are some the best video game stories I've ever experienced... Now prey is in my top 3 if not the first! Thank you for all the effort you put into making this super intriguing video🙏🏻🌹
Sadly the bit about the helicopter looking glass 'glitching out' on purpose is false, the developers have stated a number of times that it actually IS a camera bug with the looking glass camera accidentally, although very briefly, moving out of the intended area.
1:12:28 On the topic of children in the game, in the rec center at crew quarters theres a message left by a little girl wishing her dad a happy birthday and it absolutely shattered ny heart
So the real reason for the myriad of baseball gloves is actually a Christmas exchange from one of the years before. They invited a baseball player on Talos I (I think to have his brain mapped for athletic neuromods). At Christmas, he handed out a bunch of signed gloves, but barely anyone knew him, so the gloves were pretty much worthless.
It’s criminal that this game got less attention, but in some ways that may be a blessing. Because there’s not as big of an audience, there’s a small enough cult following that has the ability to love the game while being aware of any flaws. But these flaws, for this small group of gamers, don’t overshadow their ability to enjoy the game. I find that when a game has an insanely large audience and is mainstream for the gaming industry, the praise can be abundant, yes, but the criticism can be 10 times more. And often, this criticism is all that is focused on, damning a lot of GREAT games to being tied to their one or two biggest flaws. I’m glad that Prey won’t be lost to the hatred and flaw fixation that a lot of good games often do. Also, I’m glad it’s not popular enough to be inevitably turned into a Hollywood money maker that will end up doing the game multiple injustices. A Prey movie would be cool, but just don’t, please. Never goes well.
I think it would be so cool if dishonored and prey where in the same universe. Like would the Typhon and their abilities be somehow involved with the magic of the outsider and the powers he has and gives to corvo? It's all pretty cool
I still remember all those prey 2 promos before they decided to do this reboot. x-x for some reason it always struck me odd on how drastic the difference between the original and reboot version is. But the reboot is a worthy successor to the original. Awesome vid 🔥🔥
That's because this 'reboot' was never intended on being a reboot. The name of the game was forced on the developers by Bethesda after they bought the Prey license.
6:10 Small correction, Fahrenheit 451 tells the story of a *fireman* not a firefighter. The ambiguity is intentional and called out in the book. Firemen are men of fire, and while that used to be men who put out fires it now meant men who make authorized fires. Firefighter is completely unambiguous and is not what our protagonist is. Our protagonist never fought fire - “why would I? Everything is fireproof. Except books.”
Loved the first Prey. Never even gave the “reboot” a second glance however just the fact that you made a Fucking over hour long iceberg video had me intrigued. I haven’t even gotten 5 minutes in and I’m anxious to play it. Damn man you sold me
would like to see more immersive sim icebergs please Frank you absolute beast. like System Shock, Dishonoured and Dues Ex. I also think you could do a good video on Control.
@@FranklyGaming i appreciate you doing so! I am not anywhere near doing a video like this on my channel 😂 I have played through the story twice, once on Xbox One and another on PS4. My PS4 run I did just every side quest except finding all the ID's and retained my humanity by not using any Typhon mods. Next run will be all Typhon. I also am one of the few people who bought Mooncrash but I haven't finished it yet with everyone. Its pretty challenging to figure out what all you need to do to save everyone. It is one of the coolest and most innovative DLC's though.
Actually started playing this the other day and I’m loving it. I also appreciate that the game doesn’t hold your hand and has a pretty tough learning curve.
1:24:18 I'm sorry pal, Arkane Studio's is basically no more at this point, as evidenced from Red Fall, all of the best and brightest have moved to other studios.
Ive watched 2 of your videos and subscribed halfway thru the second knowing you have somthing special here..keep them coming ill keep watching if they are this quality
Prey was one of my favourite games right from the start. Eventually I revisited it later to get the moon crash dlc once I had disposable income. One of my favourite dlc too and also how I found the band weird wolves. Highly recommend people give them a listen
What a phenomal video, you deserve far more subscribers! I've watched a lot of videos which critiqued and analysed Prey but this is one of my favorites. I really enjoy your narration and learned a lot of new things, seeing the sequence with the Soviet satellite was amazing. I appreciated how you separated the game into different tiers. You explored many things I didn't notice which gives so much food for thought, thank you! Is the background song playing until 14:51 Alex Theme?^^ Great indepth analysis, I finished the game yesterday and it's one of my all time favorites already and your amazing video enforces it!
@@FranklyGamingou're very welcome, your video made me fall in love with Prey even more! It undeniably is, let's hope that we will get a sequel, with game pass the chance is at least a little bit higher. What games similar to Prey or Immersive Sims could you recommend?😊
The Typhon are all telepathically linked, and their psychic presence seems to always get stronger the more of them that there are. I'm pretty sure the child's drawing is just from her being especially vulnerable to the constant psychic background influence of the Typhon in orbit. But man, this game was so heavily underrated. It's criminal that we'll most likely never get a sequel.
Congratulations and thank you! One of the best videos I've ever seen in my life. So many amazing details. Incredible! Prey is for sure the most underrated game of all time. I love it! It's a really shame that people don't recognize it as it deserves. Maybe one day.
49:38 that emmanuel mendez guy is an engineer working in power plant section. when you track him from security station, you find his body in outer space, next to a billboard with transtar logo. when you press a button on the board's control panel, it completes the operation mendez was trying to do and the board displays "all escape pods are fake" 😱
Well done. It’s nice to see someone else loves this game and it’s DLC as much as I do. I play games, yes, but then I find one that I play until my fingernails grow long and play nothing else. Prey is certainly in that category.
I just finished my first playthrough yesterday! Always loved (old) Arkane, love Dishonored, so happy to finally experience Prey. Several key moments took my breath away. What an incredible game experience!
wow this guy makes such great videos
Thanks me
Nice work on the phony news clip
Almost as good as YOU! FranklyGaming Clips!
@@TayeTalks 😂
agree! 😂
The Phantom speech becoming more recognizable as you install more neuromods is something I completely missed. Insane how much polish and detail went into this game.
Same! I had no idea.
Didn´t know that since I haven´t installed any phantom mods O_O
@Mex_the_Fox not those mods, he is talking about the upgrade ones made ingame.
What's also cool: From the very beginning, if you turn on subtitles for everything (not just cutscenes), you will get subtitles of what the phantoms are saying.
This is especially disturbing on Mooncrash when, playing as Riley Yu, you can run into a phantom that says "What's wrong? You don't remember me? We worked together"
yeah see i didnt want to be a typhon(plot twist, hahah) i didnt think of it almost at all, until i got stuck at one point, watched one quick walkthrough and the person mentioned if you upgrade those abilities you become recognized as such.. so i stuck with the q-beam OP weapon along with shottie and pistol mostly and hacks.. so I would have never noticed that,. But now I know what I will do on my 2nd go round!
One of my absolute favourite games, it’s a real shame that it didn’t do as well as the developers hoped.
Such an underloved gem, hopefully one day it gets the sequel it deserves, and thanks for watching!
Bethesda really did dirty to Prey 2017. This games intended name was Neuroshock but Bethesda forced Arkane to change it. Obviously original Pray was totally different kind of game and this created lots of confusion and negative press around the launch. So this masterpiece never had the fair change it deserved.
I personally think people are just aren't smart enough to play it.
@@deathcommand or alot of people just find it boring lmfao
Prey is my 3rd favorite Bethesda game. After New Vegas and Skyrim, mainly due to the lack of customization and variety of playstyle. That being said It was the best camping experience I’ve had out of the three
I think that the poster near the door in Morgan's room has a different meaning than what you described. I think this is a depiction of the Great Filter, another concept in the Fermi Paradox. Basically the Great Filter is the idea that the reason there are so few aliens is that there is some sort of "filter" preventing species from achieving higher levels of intelligence and progress, so the few that do are extremely rare. This comes with speculation of whether or not humanity has passed the filter or is stuck behind it. I think the poster is an illustration of one species (possibly the typhon) breaking trough the great filter, where others have failed.
Someone else just mentioned this too I agree 100% that would make the most sense wish I had thought of it hahah
There's also the Omega symbol in the center of the red line towards the upper portion, implying the Typhon were able to "break through" and get past "the end."
Edit: It could also be implying that the Typhon are the great filter. Which is the theory I think I buy in to.
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Oh! That’s some mind bending theory there! Brilliant!
@@grosstoastie1216 necro - but there's also an Alpha symbol at the bottom. The green line trailing the breakthrough object starts at Alpha, its own boundary being a horizontal green line.
Prey was the one of the best games to be honest. 2017 was a great year for video gaming in general.
Facts
My heavens, was it really six years ago? I'm hard-pressed to think of a better sci-fi game that has been released since Prey.
@@DraftySatyr hasnt been made !! im convinced or we would know about it!
Pretty much every year from 2005-2018 was great. Things imo went downhill after 2018. I find myself playing games more from like 2007-2018 because I find them more fun vs current games.
I think 2020 was when games got ‘bad’
I purchased Prey in 2024 after a deep discount on the PS Store. It was like $10. And after completing it, it’s my current GOTY for 2024. It’s a shame that such a talented studio got shut down 😞
Same except on PC. This game was too good and today could legit be considered AAAA game.
On your last point, I was one of those people that didn't give the game a chance. I remember watching E3 with some of my friends when they announced Mooncrash. I said, and I quote, "Lmao, didn't nobody like that game? Why would they make a DLC?", to which one of my friends said "What? People loved that game." I had only heard the "professional" reviews, he heard from the actual players. So a couple days later, I ended up buying the game on sale, and it's now one of my all-time favorites. Really just goes to show how one bad review from a bad reviewer working for a bad review site can completely sway public opinion.
Fuck ING they haven't done anything good, didn't even apologised
For me, the game was a love at first sight. I've spent so many hours in it snooping around, blasting bullets and alien powers. My first playthrough was entirely spoiler free, and when I came to that ending... it was nothing but mindblowing to me. Elevating, even. It's a leson about empathy and the human condition, the self. I might be sappy and weird, but it really touched me and stuck with me. I wish more people saw this game for what it was and all its beautiful qualities. I wish I could go back and play it again for the first time.Thank you for making this video
100% agree and thank you so much for watching and supporting the channel!
I feel the same way, i have so many hours in this and my playtroughs are fun and different each time. Allways something i have missed. For me this is a love letter.
@@mais4u Absolutely is! Prey is just a comfort game for me. I did not like Mooncrash tho, I really dont like rogue likes and the like. I think id love to see a Prey 2 one day but in te same time Im just wary of the potential. What if its awful? I want this franchise to get more love but I also dont want it to be ruined, you get me
Yes this game was amazing. I also enjoyed the dlc Moonrise.
@@yeahnah27I think the original has an entire world and discovery element that Moonrise is missing. I do like Moonrise though because you get to mess around with stuff you missed in the game.
I think this wasn't intentional, but that mimic that's trapped inside a room with 3 objects can turn into a static model of Morgan if you jump into one of the compartments. Maybe this is a leftover from that scrapped mechanic where they turn into humans.
That's pretty cool. Which area was that?
@@ChaoticNeutralMatt 52:42
I played through this exact part today, the greater mimic for me turned into the Yu family portrait picture frame. Pretty cool because that picture wasn't even in the room when I looked around.
I'm pretty sure it is intentional but I couldn't figure out what it could mean just yet.
@@vincentfernandez7366yeah I was gonna say that happened to me too
During my playthrough of the game, the ending really was mindblowing. The facts that Alex Yu is even attempting to create a mimic to understand the human, the real world is already destroyed and everything you experienced was a simulation where your every actions was recorded.
I only finished it once, even attempting to playing it on hard with the least amount of upgrade was an interesting challenge.
You should give mooncrash a shot too I think you would love it! I think I like it even more than the base game, and thanks for watching!
@@FranklyGaming ok, may i ask why? i just started it, and "frankly" am on the fence, haha.. but if i am missing a key element then i will look a bit closer. i am struggling with the whole, even though i grinded to get these items, they cant all be bought next round.. and you can buy q-cells but at least for 45 min i cant seem to find the gun, which for me would help defeat the barrage of monsters in the escape pod.. i never seem to have enough ammo in the pistol, but have shotgun ammo but no fabricator plan etc.. thats where i am at after about 2 or 3 days and maybe 10 retries.. any feedback is appreciated man. nonetheless, I can say with confidence, that if the creators havent viewed this they are missing out, and if they have, not only would they be proud, they should invite you to add content to prey 2 .. optimistic? sure.. great idea? fk yeah!
@@johnlombardo7816biggest thing about this game is to explore as much as possible, in the atrium there is a security office near the bottom of the stairs leading to Morgan’s office, in there you will find the shotgun, ask anymore questions you got and I’ll respond as quick as I can
"What does it look like, the shape in the glass" was also a phrase the psychologist Mathias Kohl said to Dr. Calvino. Not only this but every phrase the phantoms repeat is from somebody or some audio log that Morgan has gone through. This makes me feel like the simulation, when repeated remembers the previous thigs that Morgan did and adjusts itself or something.
Showed up on my recommendations a day after Arkane's shutdown news broke.
Right in the feels
I hope the devs know that soo many people, including me loved this game. I wasnt even aware that it hadn't been a huge sucess for them. I always hoped for a sequel😢
I’m a little late, but as you said several times (and cannot be said enough), Prey is an incredible game and it is truly sad how underrated it still is 6 years later. I don’t know what Prey 2 would be, where or when or how it would take place, but I do hope that one day we’ll see it. And I may have to go look for it on steam…
I really hope it does happen one day it deserves it for sure, and thanks for watching!
Probably the morgan/typhon hybrid clone would be sent to try to save the earth or beig a bridge to communication between typhons and humans
@@mulhollanddrivehobo6910 imagine the I and It route for prey 2 is that Morgan kills all the remaining humans and fully embraces The Typhon. Becoming a new apex typhon.
I really liked this game. It had a surprisingly deep story and lots of interesting lore. Everything made sense as well. No major plot holes. The game play was also unique. Shame that more people didn't play it
Such an underrated gem, really hope it gets a sequel one day
is Deadloop their "sequel" to this, ie studios next game.... it got praised and sold decently. Has Prey:Mooncrush vibes. So it kinda is sequel without being one(they took concepts from this game where applicable and improved those).
@@effexon no.
The fact that weekly people have been coming to this video to say how much they loved the game is a testament to how unbearingly poor the management is at Microsoft
My favorite theory (which is admittedly headcannon, far as I'm concerned) is that the Apex (Uber Typhon) is an interdimsional, universe -devouring eldritch horror from beyond space and time.
100% seems pretty much the case to me lol, and thanks for watching!
You got a howitzer on your head? dude, I'm jealous..
Reminds me of the Necromorphs from Dead Space
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yhh i think the apex typhon is the fermi paradox itself
I got to say my most favorite mechanic in this game is the recycling charges and the builders. It's such a cool thing, I'm honestly sad no other game uses this
Ya it’s so cool discovering all the uses for them and also it makes the crafting in game so good
Builders?
@@Yusuke_DentonReplicators maybe?
Yeah, it took System Shock's recycling mechanic and actually made it great. I never got tired of using the Recyclers and Replicators. It was like Christmas everytime. The addiction to creating Neuromods also made me pause and think if I really should be using so many. There's so many unique experiences in Prey that I've never had before or since in any other game. Perhaps the best immersive sim/shock game ever made.
@@quaker5712 It's one of the few crafting mechanics in games I actually enjoyed. In most games it seems like they stick crafting on as a bonus feature that isn't necessary and doesn't really fit in with the world. It meshes perfectly with the Prey setting and gameplay.
great work again brother! Prey, for me, is one of my all time favorites and I haven't even played mooncrash. I just get that warm cozy feeling every time Morgan boards the helicopter for the "ride around the bay" to that groovy intro music. It's so short but so fantastically done, and is really just a micro representation of the kind or care and quality you get from the rest of the game. Love the icebergs, and keep em coming!
Thanks for all the support! And mooncrash is even more amazing trust
@@FranklyGaming Yeah, trust, just haven't had time. but I will eventually!
“What does it look like, the shape in the glass?” is a phrase from one of the audio logs, too. It was from the psychologist interviewing the guy who was working on the Looking Glass project about his dreams. It might be a foreshadowing, but it's still explainable by phantoms repeating the phrases they heard. I think it's also said in some in-game source (can't remember if it's Morgan's notes or some document) that phantoms just mimic human speech.
0451 might be a code for the door to LG Studios, but that code itself could very well be a further reference.
Kletka means cage in Russian.
I do not think Prey and Dishonored can possibly be in the same universe. Prey references the analogues to real-world nations and events all the time, and its world is pretty much exactly Earth, while there is nothing of the sort in Dishonored. 200-something years are not enough for such a change.
200 years ago we didn't have cars, A/C, Television, radio, or even refrigeration. A lot can happen in 200 years. I don't think they're in the same universe either, don't get me wrong. But 200 years is plenty of time to have crazy changes. We couldn't even fly 200 years ago. We now visit space regularly.
@@TenzinBeifongIII I'm not talking about technology. I am talking about geography, biology, and politics. Hell, even physics.
While we didn't have TV 200 years ago, we still had Eurasia, Africa and America. Hell, we even already had Antarctica discovered. Absolute majority of current nations and languages existed already, and would even be recognizable to a modern person. Absolute majority of species that exist currently, existed 200 years ago. And we didn't have magic back then, either.
@@Spellweaver5 actually, the majority of species that existed 200 years ago are now extinct. And most of the country borders haves changed so drastically in that time that the global map would be entirely unrecognizable. Not to mention in the Americas alone there has been so much change in the last 200 years. Half of "the United States" hadn't even become states.
I want you to take a second and think about how stupid you including "politics" in your comment is. Political climates across the planet have changed and shifted so drastically over the last 200 years that world leaders of that day would zero out of existence simply trying to understand how everything got to the fucking mess of a world we have now.
How many languages have died in that time? Also, you may think you're making such a good argument bringing up physics, but you look like a total fool. The last 200 years have brought such insane understanding in that field that Newton would have a heart attack, and he's only been dead 300.
Also, barely 300 years ago in the western world, science and medicine were considered somewhat magical. Sorry for pushing the timeline a bit there, but I hope you get my point.
I'm not looking at world maps here, and it's obvious that Prey takes place in an alternate timeline/dimension and Dishonored/Deathloop take place in a fictional universe. Never disagreed there. But when trying to take into account everything you mentioned, actually think a little more deeply. The progress of humanity in the last 123 years alone is staggering. I was just playing devil's advocate, but that argument wasn't great.
Yeah indeed. The assumption that he was talking about the simulation was a baffling leap considering this guy was just noting the other voice clips were from transcribe conversations. Also yes, as much as people want to bizarrely link the franchises, the only reason (and it's a bad one for obvious reasons) to believe they're in the same universe is Morgan Yu's safebox in Death of the Outsider.
0451 is a reference to Deus Ex
I'm pretty sure the cut content mimic human became the phantoms later in development.
throughout the game we're shown that phantoms are using the human inside of them like a base/skeleton they use to build the rest of themselves, they take random parts of the human like body, name and memories and use those to function on a basic level, they're pretending to be humanoid when that's not a physical configuration natural to them.
even our player phantom goes back to mimicking Morgan in the good ending, phantoms are just mimics trying to mimic something too complicated for them to figure out (probably the brain specifically).
I did not realize they get easier to understand the more alien you become...I got chills when the phantom called the player by name
I’m so glad other people know how incredible and underrated this game is. It’s sooo good, it’s one I go back to consistently. You just want more information, even after playing it inside and out. Incredible.
I remember when prey came out, I watched Markiplier play it all the way through and I was blown away by the game, never knew it wasn’t received well. Love the vid ❤️ keep up the great work!!
Thank you for the support!
I hope Markiplier at least somewhat liked it
@@Icewallowcome012 everyone that has played this game likes it. It’s just *not alot* of people have played this game.
@@orbix2645 Man I wish that was true, but there are PLENTY of people that didn't like Prey (2017). Not that it's bad it's just definitely not for everyone
@@Icewallowcome012 honestly I don’t think I’ve seen a single person dislike this game.
Fantastic work on your Iceberg explanation! You've really created one top tier youtube video!
I really agree with you that Prey deserves so much more love, and it's probably the most underrated game to this day. I have never been so appealed to a story in a video game like this one! This could be one of the best concepts ever made, because the possibilities are endless!!!
I love what you said about Alex Yu being the villain, probably being the one sacrificing it all. Could it have been his last resort, making him the good guy because he is saving what he can from humanity? Or was he actually bad and only interested in progress? Very interesting!
How can we, the community, give what Arkane Game Studios the love that they deserve? Push them into making more games with the same concept and depth!
Thanks so much for the kind words and support! And Arkane probably has some work to do on themselves first since a majority of the studio left during redfall
I feel like from what I've seen, the mistakes most ppl make when they're playing Prey is the fact that they play it like it's a generic action FPS game, like Cod, Far cry, or Doom, Just run and gun everything when they grab a weapon, Like no, every time i see someone play it I want to scream "UTILIZE THE PROPANE TANK! PRESERVE YOUR AMMO! USE MIMICS TO GO THROUGH GAPS!" Etc, etc.
It's a bit frustrating that there's still quite many ppl that doesn't think outside the box when all the tools are laid right infront of them, But I guess that's why Immersive sim is not that popular, most ppl are just too used to playing streamlined and straightforward games that they don't realize they can do more than what the game tells them.
I got addicted to using the glue cannon to try and reach random places along with mimic which is the BEST mod imo. Just let me roll around as a cup and let me be! 😂
I love this game. The doll at the end of moon crash can also be a reference to the 1995 movie Screamers, which I suggest people watching. It is about killer machines in a mining colony that self replicate and begin mimicking items to get close to people, including mimicking people. As the film comes to a close there is a shuttle heading towards earth and the character has a teddy bear on board, it fades to black as the bear begins to move.
That really sounds like an inspiration.
I never got the Luka side quest. I always killed him as soon as I got the award (even on my first playthrough) because I saw and heard the real chef on transcribes and knew he wasn't the real guy.
Smart man haha, and thanks for watching!
I thought it was a bug so I just went with it 😅
Never played the game, just watched this cause I love icebergs but man is this one of the most interesting games Ive witnessed.
It really does have such good lore and also is just such an underrated game in general, thanks for watching!
Bro you gotta play it. One of my favorite gems.
Go play it now.
as they have said, it is now 10 months later, have you played? if not.. stop.. go play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! seriously! go!!! :)
I think the phantoms talking might be the typhon hive mind trying to communicate with you considering the player turns out to be a phantom in the ending
This is like a full on documentary! Super in depth and engaging. Indeed has "w rizz".
Appreciate it my man ❤️
Prey was something I'd bought for myself just because I saw it, thought the cover was cool and liked the price tag ---and that ended up COMPLETELY blowing me away.
Spent a long time recommending it to anyone with even the slightest interest in space based action games of any kind and genius storytelling or game mechanics. Really happy to see you cover this one. Even though it might not be so fresh anymore - try it for yourself guys.
This video is amazing, but you're really going to appreciate it if you give it a try.
I recommend easy mode though. Not because it's particularly hard in comparison to other games, but because you don't want to be lost in theorizing and exploring and suddenly stumble into utter chaos (been there, done that) -otherwise it's honestly not that long if you really push through, but there's so much you can get by just being attentive
A little late here, but I just wanted to point out that one of the possible reasons Prey didn't get the recongnition it deserved it most likely the name itself. I remember when it was announced a lot of people got really hyped because they thought it was a reboot of Prey (2006), where you take the place of native american fighting an alien invasion using a mix of alien bio-weapons and spiritual powers, all in a really dark scenario.
And, although Prey (2017) is an amazing game like the video points out, the fact that it wasn't some were building it up to be, it killed most of the game's hype and left it a sort of hidden gem.
Probably actually worse than that, the 2006 game had a sequel that got cancelled within 18-24 months of the release of this game.
I would have quite enjoyed being a bounty-hunter on an alien world.
a name doesnt make a game fail
So for the kid's drawing of the Phantom, I have a theory. It's a bit off the cuff so may have some things wrong lorewise, but whatever. Maybe rather than being controlled by a telepath, the mother herself had Typhon-related telepath powers. It would make sense there may be types of powers possible that we don't have access to, as a mix of some of them being too early in testing or just gameplay considerations. And the idea of a mother using her newfound powers to make a connection with her child on Earth is kind of sweet. ...The second layer of this theory is that, if that's true, and let's say the mother was visiting her child in their dreams, then the Phantom the child was seeing was actually their mom. The body may have been human, mostly, but the spirit was already something else, long before the breakout.
That doesn't make much sense. Morgan and the volunteers were the only ones receiving typhon-based neuromods. Regina Sellers (the mother of the child) doesn't work anywhere near where she would interact with or know about the typhon, nevermind getting neuromods based on them.
And while it's true that she became a phantom, there are already many cases of Talos I staff having nightmares and visions of the typhon, so they're unrelated. The moon also isn't that far from Earth. If the coral can broadcast a signal across interstellar space, then they can certainly reach Earth with their influence. It could also be easier to affect people around neuromods, since all typhon are connected, and if someone with a neuromod is on Earth, the typhon might be able to influence weaker people nearby.
Just barely played this game for the first time and it had now become one of my favorites, the attention to detail in this game is great, hopefully arkane will eventually make a sequel to this gem
Man, Prey is so much fun. Just recently got the achive for playing through it using no Neromods. The fact that the game gives you so many options with how you can approch things makes it a magical game. It really should get more love.
Thank you for doing this game the justice it deserves - it really deserves so much more love than it received. Great video!
Thanks so much for supporting my channel!
14:22 Had to pause here and look at the poster you mentioned. You suggested that it might be an indication of how the Typhon came from some dark dimension, but when I took a closer look at it I realized that's not what it is AT ALL. It's a visual representation of the Great Filter: a potential solution to the Fermi Paradox. That big red barrier is labelled with Omega ('Ω'), which, in this context, means "the end," clearly denoting it as the filter itself. In the picture, though, something is very clearly breaking through. This begs a few questions... What is the filter, what managed to get past it, and is one of them the Typhon?
And OF COURSE I write all that and scroll down to see someone else went and wrote the same thing already. Screw it, have my engagement anyway lol.
EDIT: I was listening to the last half of the video on my way home from work and suddenly everything clicked for me around your mention of Alex's password, the description of Chenghuanshen being the "god of the boundary," and showing the Great Filter poster again. Alex is ABSOLUTELY the god of the boundary in Prey, but it isn't something as mundane as a boundary between spaces or dimensions. Rather, he's attempting to open the boundary between EXPERIENCES; between humans and Typhon. Bearing in mind Alex is playing god here, I shall draw your attention to a quote from the Bible where god says: "I am the Alpha and Omega; the beginning and the end." Back to the Great Filter poster. I noticed the Omega symbol on the filter when I wrote my earlier comment, but what I HADN'T noticed previously, because I'm pretty sure it was out of frame, was the ALPHA symbol at the bottom.
Putting all this together: Alex is playing god. He is the Alpha and Omega. As an extension of that and in the context of the poster, ALEX IS THE GREAT FILTER. All those dark lines going up to the filter? You're right, they're Typhon, but they're specifically Typhon that Alex created and filtered OUT. Failed attempts at bridging the Human-Typhon experiential barrier. And the one that makes it through is... you.
That poster at the very beginning spoils the entire game; you just need to finish the game to realize that. An immediate spoiler hiding in plain sight. Man, this game is truly a masterpiece.
I played this game randomly and fell in love with it. It is still in my top 5 favorite video games.
The last clip of Raphael is so sad, still remember there was quite a lot of confusion around the title as well with the other prey
Ya it’s sad to see, especially cause I actually like the name for the game a lot
This video is fascinating, thanks so much for making it and putting it together!
Anytime! Thanks a ton for the support
I almost didn't click on this video because "iceberg explained" is not my favourite but this was a blast! I particularly liked the parts that didn't ship in the game.
14:21 I am quite certain the poster represents the Great Filter - that's exactly how it tends to be represented (look up images online!) Alpha for genesis of life and Omega for the _end_ of most lifeforms that die out before elevating even further on the scale of intelligence. A barrier like... typhons hunting down any sentience they can find, for example.
The baseball gloves are not typhon -- they actually had that many; according to a reddit comment:
> The story behind the gloves is that one of the staff is a famous ex-baseball player (Harley Grainger). He gave everyone signed gloves and nobody uses them or remembers him.
32:50 The nullwave device's function is momentary. I don't think it was ever intended to "stop the signal" - it was probably meant to destroy all typhon material and any _source_ of a potential signal. I also believe it works flawlessly - beating the apex, even. I don't see any failure here.
What I do know is this: you're given a quest to scan the coral and it's explained that this data and the very coral itself help the nullwave device by propagating it throughout the whole coral network.
The theories are a bit wack, not going to lie:
"January caused outbreak" is a really cool idea but I feel like it's a bit unfounded - sure, the motive and the coincidences are very much there but not much else. There is absolutely no hint to any connection with the other suspects.
"Yu brothers plot to restart humanity" is totally off-the-wall, I can't even begin to understand how you've arrived at that idea. Why would Alex spend so much effort containing the typhon, going as far as making sure the escape pods don't work? (at least I think that's what he meant when he told an engineer not to repair/install anything in the pods, with the pretext that the parts aren't rated for that) I feel like you give Alex way too much credit.
The Evacuation being alien in origin - I also highly doubt that. Especially as the (fictional) author blames "scientists" specifically. I prefer the simple "recycler" theory.
All in all, mostly a waste of time engaging in these.
Mooncrash actually takes place at a similar time as the main game. I think it might even be on the same date? Anyways, the player character's story is definitely _after_ Talos 1 falls, that I am sure of.
All in all, I feel like this barely scratched the surface, let alone an iceberg - there's just so much to Prey! XD
Prey is one of the most criminally underrated game I’ve seen. It’s so interesting and imo a great lovecraftian horror both from the lenses of humans and the otherworldly alien creatures. We have humans dealing with an alien threat they seek to understand, resulting in their own destruction. With the “kill them all” ending its humans ego of thinking they’re so important that fucks them even more. At the same time, the typhon is just a primal creature, just wanting to do its process with no greater thought. Now they’ve been shown the life of a human, experiencing emotions and actions they never would’ve even imagined before. It’ll never go back to what it once was, no longer typhon but also not human. It’s so damn cool to me and the concept of being the alien is something I never saw before and I want so much more of. And more horror that’s horror in its story and not just with jumpscares and basic scare tactics. I hope somehow we can make it clear how great this game is and how much we love it so we can get a sequel or just anything. I’d hate for such an interesting world and concept to never be revisited again.
Yes!! And junji ito hellfire star or whatever where the planet or star was flying around eating other planets. It came to eat us, so we start sacrificing people to appease it when really it has no logic. No emotion. It’s just doing what it does, no intention, no thought. It just is. Creepy!
I absolutely love this game and I’m just starting my journey with it. I love TipToe the Tank’s video on it, and it really inspired me to take a chance on it. I do not regret it. This video just makes me even more excited to complete it. I don’t see it get much praise, and I’m glad someone sees it.
I wish SOMA got the love it deserves too.
Edit: I like how you accidentally put on screen that the Operators were created in 2022 and 2023. 😭😂
Lol whoops 😂😂, and thanks for watching!
@@FranklyGaming: I will always watch your videos. I can’t believe it took me so long to find the channel. And now that I can watch you stream on Twitch, I get everything. 🥰
SOMA is SUCH a profound game!
@@HeatherHolt: very much so, it is. I love it so much.
@@HeatherHolt soma is on gamepass.. does it play like this game ? i think i downloaded it, started it up then didnt give it a chance.. what is the draw behind it? i know the description sounded good enough to download, but then again it was part of gamepass so i cant say that meant much when i did it.. any info is appreciated, love finding new stuff, and soma is a term used in very many dystopian novels as is a real drug to make people docile to well the world becoming a dystopian future. :/ .. there is likely a lot of predictive programming and easter eggs in that game i bet.. no?
Had no clue about Typhon speech becoming more recognizable. Mind blowing. I find that my favorite games are games where I keep learning new things about them, like Metal Gear Solid and Rain World. This game was an absolute masterpiece, the epitome of the genre.
The trolley problem was originally created as an example of lazy and bad philosophy problems lol.
What a fantastic iceberg! This is the most justice that this game has ever been given, and even I learned so many new things from it.
If they can ever release a sequel that expands on this and is bug free, then it would easily be game of the year material. If deathloop gets a 10/10 then Prey 2 would go beyond that.
I really appreciate that! And couldn’t agree more a new sequel would be my dream announcement, thanks for watching
The picture at ~14:40 is likely about great filters (at least I think that's their name) basically it's thought that space faring species has periods of "great filters", where that species dies due to events both within and without their control (think humans possible nuclear armageddon, it _could happen_ but we would have to navigate through the filter the right way, or some asteroid kills us all, which is always a possibility also).
Basically the green line is a successful navigation, all the others didn't.
That comment you made about a possible sequel because Microsoft bought arcane didn't age to well RIP.
Yeah😢
such an underrated gem
True me
I still remember the OMGHotBoss password gag. And the D&D character sheet easter eggs. All of the fun and whacky storylines you find throughout the station. Prey is one of the BEST games I've ever played and I'm always sad that it hasn't gotten more love over the years. I first experienced it in 2016 and have played it a couple times since. I might boot it up again now, it's so good.
This game was such a fever dream for me. Being alone on this large, art deco space station created such an unsettling atmosphere for me. It scratched every itch. The added lore that went completely over my head makes it all the more creepy and imaginative.
Great work with this video! Absolutely loved Prey and Mooncrash, up there as one of my all time favourite games 👏🏻
Really appreciate that! And same here they are both so underrated
CRIMINALLY UNDERRATED VIDEO- you did amazing man, so entertaining and very informative. This really made me feel good about liking the game when a lot of people didn't really vibe with it, and I learned a lot. ❤
"what does it look like, the shape in a glass?" Is also a quote said by a scientist (the one working on looking glass(, so it still fits the "they repeat human sentences" theory
This is a great video which just gives massive amounts of material to think about of what actually could be happening, great job. This game is an underrated masterpiece in terms of everything. From the story, gameplay, design, the world it creates, everything is just amazing. Such a shame game like this doesn’t get a sequel and more material when there are endless possibilities and interesting stories to explore in this universe
100% agree the game deserves so much more, and thanks a lot for the support!
14:20 Pretty sure that's just a reference to the great filter solution to the Fermi paradox, showing that there's some Omega filter that kills off most civilizations that reach it, with only one civilization managing to survive it and continue existing in the universe.
Dude the fact that this vid only has 30k is NUTS. Keep going bro you’re going to take off soon I promise!!
Appreciate the support!
These videos are amazing… I would love one on Dishonored 1 and 2! So much hidden lore and plot in that world.
Game reviews are such an echo chamber. Whatever the first review says, all of them will say. And gamers will just regurgitate that without having even played the game. Prey was the sequel to System Shock I've always wanted. I got the platinum trophy on PlayStation for it and everything. It's a criminally underrated game! Thanks for showing it so much love.
Prey is one of my top five, people always clown me for it but man it's great.
One of my favorite games every I think mooncrash is the most underrated gaming thing ever too
They just don’t know the truth!
25:07 you said this thing wasn’t a glitch but in fact it was. The player model clips through the window for that frame and so they see through the looking glass on the inside of the helicopter. The devs didn’t notice it until the game shipped but kept it in because they realized it foreshadowed the twist at the beginning.
This game just honestly made me think about the universe and Alien life for hours and hours...
Now I can't look at the sky or stars the same way...
This is what a masterpiece is in my opinion... In my book, a game is a masterpiece when it makes you question reality and the things you know about what's possible or what's not... The competent devs behind this deserve way more credit and appreciation for this masterpiece.
Bioshock, Amnesia the bunker, Lies of P, Detroit Become Human, Dead Space, and some others I don't remember from the top of my head are some the best video game stories I've ever experienced...
Now prey is in my top 3 if not the first!
Thank you for all the effort you put into making this super intriguing video🙏🏻🌹
Sadly the bit about the helicopter looking glass 'glitching out' on purpose is false, the developers have stated a number of times that it actually IS a camera bug with the looking glass camera accidentally, although very briefly, moving out of the intended area.
1:12:28 On the topic of children in the game, in the rec center at crew quarters theres a message left by a little girl wishing her dad a happy birthday and it absolutely shattered ny heart
So the real reason for the myriad of baseball gloves is actually a Christmas exchange from one of the years before. They invited a baseball player on Talos I (I think to have his brain mapped for athletic neuromods). At Christmas, he handed out a bunch of signed gloves, but barely anyone knew him, so the gloves were pretty much worthless.
It’s criminal that this game got less attention, but in some ways that may be a blessing.
Because there’s not as big of an audience, there’s a small enough cult following that has the ability to love the game while being aware of any flaws. But these flaws, for this small group of gamers, don’t overshadow their ability to enjoy the game.
I find that when a game has an insanely large audience and is mainstream for the gaming industry, the praise can be abundant, yes, but the criticism can be 10 times more. And often, this criticism is all that is focused on, damning a lot of GREAT games to being tied to their one or two biggest flaws. I’m glad that Prey won’t be lost to the hatred and flaw fixation that a lot of good games often do.
Also, I’m glad it’s not popular enough to be inevitably turned into a Hollywood money maker that will end up doing the game multiple injustices. A Prey movie would be cool, but just don’t, please. Never goes well.
I think it would be so cool if dishonored and prey where in the same universe. Like would the Typhon and their abilities be somehow involved with the magic of the outsider and the powers he has and gives to corvo? It's all pretty cool
No.
I don't have time to watch the whole thing right now but I really enjoy your videos and I'll be back! You put so much hard work into this.
Really appreciate the support! Ya it’s a ton of work 😂
@@FranklyGaming I only just started making fairly simple videos and oh good gravy the efforts that go into the smallest things 😂
I still remember all those prey 2 promos before they decided to do this reboot.
x-x for some reason it always struck me odd on how drastic the difference between the original and reboot version is. But the reboot is a worthy successor to the original. Awesome vid 🔥🔥
Thank you for the support!
That's because this 'reboot' was never intended on being a reboot. The name of the game was forced on the developers by Bethesda after they bought the Prey license.
6:10 Small correction, Fahrenheit 451 tells the story of a *fireman* not a firefighter. The ambiguity is intentional and called out in the book. Firemen are men of fire, and while that used to be men who put out fires it now meant men who make authorized fires. Firefighter is completely unambiguous and is not what our protagonist is. Our protagonist never fought fire - “why would I? Everything is fireproof. Except books.”
I love this game . I like the ambience, music , storyline and etc. Its too bad it got the recognition it didn't deserve. Truely an underrated gem.
Loved the first Prey. Never even gave the “reboot” a second glance however just the fact that you made a Fucking over hour long iceberg video had me intrigued. I haven’t even gotten 5 minutes in and I’m anxious to play it. Damn man you sold me
Great video! Such an under rated game. I’m still holding out hope for a sequel someday.
Really appreciate that! And couldn’t agree more it deserves so much more love
Easily one of my favourite games of all ton. Solid story, solid gameplay and no two play throughs feel the same.
would like to see more immersive sim icebergs please Frank you absolute beast. like System Shock, Dishonoured and Dues Ex. I also think you could do a good video on Control.
Oh ya I would love to do videos on those, will eventually just have so much games to cover probably Witcher 3 next now that I’ve finished the game
I would love a SOMA iceberg video like this from you! Great video man, Prey was indeed a fucking gem of a game
This game is pure genius. 11/10
It did not get the attention it deserves. It will linger in my mind for decades to come.
100% agree, big reason I made the video want more people to know about the game hopefully
@@FranklyGaming i appreciate you doing so! I am not anywhere near doing a video like this on my channel 😂
I have played through the story twice, once on Xbox One and another on PS4. My PS4 run I did just every side quest except finding all the ID's and retained my humanity by not using any Typhon mods. Next run will be all Typhon. I also am one of the few people who bought Mooncrash but I haven't finished it yet with everyone. Its pretty challenging to figure out what all you need to do to save everyone. It is one of the coolest and most innovative DLC's though.
Thanks for talking about this amazing game and showing it the love it deserves 💗
There's a few things you didn't cover on the iceberg you could definitely make a part 2
Ya I’ve thought about doing part 2s there is so many games to cover too though there always seems to be more theories haha
Actually started playing this the other day and I’m loving it. I also appreciate that the game doesn’t hold your hand and has a pretty tough learning curve.
Did you finish it??
1:24:18 I'm sorry pal, Arkane Studio's is basically no more at this point, as evidenced from Red Fall, all of the best and brightest have moved to other studios.
Such a great video man, congrats 👏. This tackled some of my favorite theories and more. I actually never finished the Drunk Tank quest I don't think.
Glad you enjoyed man! Thanks for the support as always!
Hello people to this amazing channel
Thanks for supporting!
RIP arkane
Dude this video was incredible! I literally just beat this game today..
I haven't felt this good after I beat game since bioshock
Really appreciate that! And it’s one of my favorite games ever no doubt
RIP Arkane Studios
Rest in peace
Ive watched 2 of your videos and subscribed halfway thru the second knowing you have somthing special here..keep them coming ill keep watching if they are this quality
Really appreciate the support! And that’s the plan 😄
Too bad the main devs left the studio and it turned into a diversity shit show
2:39 , I love the Typhon voice
Prey was one of my favourite games right from the start. Eventually I revisited it later to get the moon crash dlc once I had disposable income. One of my favourite dlc too and also how I found the band weird wolves. Highly recommend people give them a listen
For the touch to calibrate thing you said it was coming and it still got me
Same 😂
This guy introduced me to 2 out of my 5 favorite video games!!!
@@angel8fingers 🔥
What a phenomal video, you deserve far more subscribers!
I've watched a lot of videos which critiqued and analysed Prey but this is one of my favorites.
I really enjoy your narration and learned a lot of new things, seeing the sequence with the Soviet satellite was amazing. I appreciated how you separated the game into different tiers. You explored many things I didn't notice which gives so much food for thought, thank you! Is the background song playing until 14:51 Alex Theme?^^
Great indepth analysis, I finished the game yesterday and it's one of my all time favorites already and your amazing video enforces it!
Really appreciate that! Prey is one of my favorite games ever for sure so underrated
@@FranklyGamingou're very welcome, your video made me fall in love with Prey even more!
It undeniably is, let's hope that we will get a sequel, with game pass the chance is at least a little bit higher. What games similar to Prey or Immersive Sims could you recommend?😊
The Typhon are all telepathically linked, and their psychic presence seems to always get stronger the more of them that there are. I'm pretty sure the child's drawing is just from her being especially vulnerable to the constant psychic background influence of the Typhon in orbit.
But man, this game was so heavily underrated. It's criminal that we'll most likely never get a sequel.
Congratulations and thank you! One of the best videos I've ever seen in my life. So many amazing details. Incredible!
Prey is for sure the most underrated game of all time. I love it! It's a really shame that people don't recognize it as it deserves. Maybe one day.
Really appreciate that! Thanks for watching
49:38 that emmanuel mendez guy is an engineer working in power plant section. when you track him from security station, you find his body in outer space, next to a billboard with transtar logo. when you press a button on the board's control panel, it completes the operation mendez was trying to do and the board displays "all escape pods are fake" 😱
Well done. It’s nice to see someone else loves this game and it’s DLC as much as I do. I play games, yes, but then I find one that I play until my fingernails grow long and play nothing else. Prey is certainly in that category.
I just finished my first playthrough yesterday! Always loved (old) Arkane, love Dishonored, so happy to finally experience Prey. Several key moments took my breath away. What an incredible game experience!
You hurt my soul at 6:40 when you recycled shot gun ammo