I mooded these guns in a similar way to the video, What I did was so there's no damage to the gun or gun cap is I used ultra thin plastic packaging that a USB dongle came wrapped in...I cut 2 inch long strips of the plastic packaging & about half an inch wide...I slid it down the cap & moved it all the way around the cap on inside to losen all the glue & then if you look where the camera is behind the lense you can see at each side there's a little plastic clip, So you get the same piece of plastic packaging & push it accurately where only one of clips are & try push it in hard without creasing the piece of plastic packaging once pushed down far enuff twist the cap of the gun slightly & pull at the same time whilst the plastic packaging is still inserted & wham my friend's the cap pulls off sweet with zero damage to anything & you can commence with your button mod & weighted stock. I used 24mm sanwa clone microswitches then you just watch this video & do exactly as this awesome guy does. Big love to this guy because without this video I wouldn't have had any idea to be able to pull off the cap. With the weights I used a simple bath sponge 🧽 I cut it in half longways & slit it open with a craft knife same as you open an hot dog bread then I went to my toolbox & found heavy nuts & bolts & inserted them into my hotdog sponge & then I wrapped up the slit I cut in the sponge with tape & shoved it in the stock area of the gun, I used this method because the nuts & bolts won't rattle & the sponge keeps them inside the gun preventing them from coming loose when gun is in use & also when you put the gun back together it squashes the sponge & it's never going move out of position this way. Top Video Mate " Big Love To Ya" 😎
Awesome tip Mr. Cash!!! Used one piece of plastic around your measurements that I cut off a container of screws lol. Slid the plastic piece up one side of the barrel towards the clasp. Pulled both caps off within minutes! You are so smart yo! Thanks!!!
I need help, after doing this mod the camera doesn’t seem to work, the buttons do though. I unplugged the wires to it and replugged them, and also I might’ve removed the fish eye lense. I’m not sure how exactly it’s supposed to fit back in the gun.
The fish eye lens has a flat side so make sure that goes in a certain way to make it fit. I would recommend retracing all the wires to make sure you didn't accidentally pinch one going to your camera pcb board
@@KongsRUs Hey KongsRUs bad news. When working on the second gun the fish eye lens went flying out when pulling one of the wires out. I can't seem to find it, so do know where a good place would be to find a replacement? I don't know what exact type of lens it was and the manual doesn't seem to say. On the other hand I got the first gun working! :)
Blows my mind that's how A1up decided to package the rifles. When you lifted those out my first reaction was the rifles weren't even covered up/protected! Great mod with the weights. I've done similar mods with some of my custom painted star wars nerf guns giving them weight.
Hi there! I installed the new LVDS to HDMI for buckhunter on A1up. Basically, the screen looks beautiful but the gun wont work. I can hear the gun noises (shots and pumps) but nothing registering on the new screen.. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!
Turn machine off for a few hours & turn off by the mains plug too & then turn back on, If you get no joy hold 1-player & 2-player start buttons for 5 sec's & go to reset & reset it & then exit that & turn off again for a further few hours & when you switch it back it should be good. If that doesn't work you will have to contact Arcade 1up or contact the retailer you purchased from & demand an explanation & demand a replacement.
I need your help with something Kong there is a buzzing going on with my Star wars virtual pinball by arcade one up and I cannot troubleshoot or figure out why it is buzzing. Or the buzzing is coming from is behind the DMD screen. I figured you would know a lots more than I would on this topic of subject. Please do because ever so kind to get back to me at your earliest convenience Kong I would greatly appreciate it and you have a blessed day
Just hooked mine up! Awesome suggestion man! (I found some cheaper tire balancing weights that worked just as well and got those same switches). Thanks for the idea!
@@NickSmith-te6vw I asked DIYRetro about these buttons a while back, and he said these sanwa clones were made directly for his site to sell. So unfortunately I don't know of other places to get clicking micro switches that fit the guns. I just happened to have a few of DIYRetro buttons for a different mod on hand
Great tips! Anybody else having a hard time getting the cap off? One cap came off easy, the other one will not budge, no matter what I do. Any help would be great.
When I assembled the gun the trigger seems to be pressing against the side of the assembly and it no longer clicks and actually feels worse than the stock gun. I think I put the spring and trigger back on the same you demonstrated in the video. It clicks fine before putting the gun back together. Any thoughts on what I might be doing wrong?
check the section where I had to cut a piece of plastic before putting it back together. there might be something that is preventing it from clicking when going back together
If i want to do the weight mod, is it possible to do it without taking the entire gun completely apart? It looks like when you showed the weights closer to the end you just had the back part or gun stock off, if i dont have to take the cap off to do it, it would be nice...
yes, you can remove enough screws to just remove the stock part to add weights. just be careful as you still need to pry open a good amount of the gun for it to come out
@@KongsRUs I ended up add my pc and using the original sinden light gun but I feel now they are going to waste I hope soon someone finds a way to. Thanks for the reply
Nice video, thanks! I just did this mod, it was going smoothly until I closed one of the guns and pinched the wires to one of the switches. The wires completely split. Dumb mistake but I was able to strip the wires and reconnect them to get the switch working again. I'm looking for a more permanent solution to fix the wires, hoping to just replace the switch wires. Does anyone know the size of that connector ? I have wires for other buttons with the same terminals but the connectors are much larger on them... Never seen small connectors like that, having trouble identifying a good replacement. Thanks!
hey Joe, you'll need .110" connectors that fit sanwa style buttons. here's a sample of the encoder wires that come with those smaller connections. as long as you have enough slack to reconnect the wires, you should be able to just keep them spliced together using heat shrink tube, Solder and seal tubes, or electrical wire. amzn.to/3A4vEm8
Do the triggers pull further back when you install the new switches? I can see where the clicking sound comes from, but I’m not sure if the new switches allow more freedom for the triggers to move.
Thanks for sharing! I do wonder whether you can really even notice the clicking micro switch when the game volume is on and you’re pumping and shooting in rapid succession. Seems like you would have to be paying extra close attention to that one element to notice it. Neat mod but the risk of damaging the guns outweighs the potential benefit for me on this one.
interesting point! for me it's less about the sound of the click, but actually feeling the tactile feedback from it. the range of movement is small on the trigger so the clicking response helps make sure you are pressing it each time.
Good info. I am definitely going to balance the guns! Do you have a part number for the microswitches? I'd prefer to get a small package of microswitches I'll probably use elsewhere than discard a button body...
Not worth the trouble at all I was taking the gun apart and come to find out. There was already weights in the gun, and those micro switches were all already in the guns.
Great mod and video! I was planning on doing something similar, but with dynamat to try and make the guns sound less hollow. I'm hoping to use a combination of the dynamat and weights now. I guess increasing the trigger travel didn't work for you? Was really curious about that idea.
Thanks for the comment! Besides the microswitch mod, i didn't change much else to the travel of the trigger since there were already so many parts. the tactile feedback from the microswitch helped alleviate some of the issues i felt with the short range. Hope your mod turns out well!
Great video Kong.. I do have a question for you about transfer the part from Arcade1up big buck gun to Arcade version Gun. Is there any three party companies that have the same spec to transfer the from one gun to another? Have you explored other mod options Because in time how long do think the gun from arcade1up will last of some have kids or company that cant understand they are cheap or in time they will break if customer isnt careful!
Thanks, these mods are great! One thing I've noticed on my arcade1up version of Big Buck Hunter is that it's much more difficult to rapidly fire than on the commercial BBH units. It's especially noticeable on some of the bonus games. I think it may be a result of the a1up pump having a weak spring -- it feels like it doesn't spring back as quickly after you cock the gun, and it therefore takes longer to disengage the microswitch and allow you to start a new reload. Do you have any thoughts on adding a stiffer spring to the pump of the a1up gun?
I haven't played the original enough to know that was an issue with the cocking mech. Could be worth a try, but I can't say for sure it'll improve the issue you mentioned.
After 3 years I finally broke down and did this mod. Yep I should have done this 3 years ago. What a improvement. Thanks B
Nice! Glad to see it's still helpful 😀
Perfectly balanced as all things should be.
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I mooded these guns in a similar way to the video, What I did was so there's no damage to the gun or gun cap is I used ultra thin plastic packaging that a USB dongle came wrapped in...I cut 2 inch long strips of the plastic packaging & about half an inch wide...I slid it down the cap & moved it all the way around the cap on inside to losen all the glue & then if you look where the camera is behind the lense you can see at each side there's a little plastic clip, So you get the same piece of plastic packaging & push it accurately where only one of clips are & try push it in hard without creasing the piece of plastic packaging once pushed down far enuff twist the cap of the gun slightly & pull at the same time whilst the plastic packaging is still inserted & wham my friend's the cap pulls off sweet with zero damage to anything & you can commence with your button mod & weighted stock.
I used 24mm sanwa clone microswitches then you just watch this video & do exactly as this awesome guy does.
Big love to this guy because without this video I wouldn't have had any idea to be able to pull off the cap.
With the weights I used a simple bath sponge 🧽 I cut it in half longways & slit it open with a craft knife same as you open an hot dog bread then I went to my toolbox & found heavy nuts & bolts & inserted them into my hotdog sponge & then I wrapped up the slit I cut in the sponge with tape & shoved it in the stock area of the gun, I used this method because the nuts & bolts won't rattle & the sponge keeps them inside the gun preventing them from coming loose when gun is in use & also when you put the gun back together it squashes the sponge & it's never going move out of position this way.
Top Video Mate " Big Love To Ya"
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Awesome tip Mr. Cash!!!
Used one piece of plastic around your measurements that I cut off a container of screws lol. Slid the plastic piece up one side of the barrel towards the clasp. Pulled both caps off within minutes! You are so smart yo! Thanks!!!
Finally did it and great mod
isn't it?! big improvement in feel
I just finished both the switches and the weights on mine. Worked perfectly thank you very much. They don’t feel like 2 year old kid toys now
Can you take the back part of the gun apart and add weights without having to take the front plate off??? Thanks!
Might be difficult to get in there without taking it all apart
How the hell do you open the gun, the cap is impossible to twist haha
Haha, I had to pry the first cap off using small flat watch knife openers. You could also try a hairdryer to loosen the glue, and then twist
@@KongsRUs I gave up, spend hours trying to take the cap off. Was hoping I would of been able to fix my spare broken gun. Impossible 😅 haha
Read my comments, You will definitely open the cap mate with zero damage 👍
How did you pull apart the cap so easy I’ve been trying and trying and it will not come off ?
Awesome! My next mod for sure! Thanks Bee!
I need help, after doing this mod the camera doesn’t seem to work, the buttons do though. I unplugged the wires to it and replugged them, and also I might’ve removed the fish eye lense. I’m not sure how exactly it’s supposed to fit back in the gun.
The fish eye lens has a flat side so make sure that goes in a certain way to make it fit. I would recommend retracing all the wires to make sure you didn't accidentally pinch one going to your camera pcb board
@@KongsRUs Hey KongsRUs bad news. When working on the second gun the fish eye lens went flying out when pulling one of the wires out. I can't seem to find it, so do know where a good place would be to find a replacement? I don't know what exact type of lens it was and the manual doesn't seem to say. On the other hand I got the first gun working! :)
Blows my mind that's how A1up decided to package the rifles. When you lifted those out my first reaction was the rifles weren't even covered up/protected! Great mod with the weights. I've done similar mods with some of my custom painted star wars nerf guns giving them weight.
yea, I was surprised they were packaging facing outward instead of being more protected
The wire that is connected to the gun it not working for us. It was first now it's not. Who do I order it fron
Thanks for this video!!
Great tutorial. Awesome helpful video. Keep up the good work.
thanks!
Hi there! I installed the new LVDS to HDMI for buckhunter on A1up. Basically, the screen looks beautiful but the gun wont work. I can hear the gun noises (shots and pumps) but nothing registering on the new screen.. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!
Turn machine off for a few hours & turn off by the mains plug too & then turn back on, If you get no joy hold 1-player & 2-player start buttons for 5 sec's & go to reset & reset it & then exit that & turn off again for a further few hours & when you switch it back it should be good.
If that doesn't work you will have to contact Arcade 1up or contact the retailer you purchased from & demand an explanation & demand a replacement.
I need your help with something Kong there is a buzzing going on with my Star wars virtual pinball by arcade one up and I cannot troubleshoot or figure out why it is buzzing. Or the buzzing is coming from is behind the DMD screen. I figured you would know a lots more than I would on this topic of subject. Please do because ever so kind to get back to me at your earliest convenience Kong I would greatly appreciate it and you have a blessed day
Sounds like it might an issue with the audio plugs in the DMD back box. I'd open it up and check all your connections
Thank you !
I've been waiting for you to post this!!
Nice work Bee thank you for all the information brother 👍
Just hooked mine up! Awesome suggestion man! (I found some cheaper tire balancing weights that worked just as well and got those same switches). Thanks for the idea!
awesome! love that u used other parts too, that's what modding is all about!
Can’t checkout on site. Anyone know they sell the switches elsewhere?
they should be back up by this weekend I think.
Same question
@@NickSmith-te6vw I asked DIYRetro about these buttons a while back, and he said these sanwa clones were made directly for his site to sell. So unfortunately I don't know of other places to get clicking micro switches that fit the guns. I just happened to have a few of DIYRetro buttons for a different mod on hand
@@KongsRUs thanks for the quick reply, I will just wait for their site to come back up again.
Great tips! Anybody else having a hard time getting the cap off? One cap came off easy, the other one will not budge, no matter what I do. Any help would be great.
try using a hair dryer or heat gun to loosen the glue, then twist and pull like ur other one
Great video!
When I assembled the gun the trigger seems to be pressing against the side of the assembly and it no longer clicks and actually feels worse than the stock gun. I think I put the spring and trigger back on the same you demonstrated in the video. It clicks fine before putting the gun back together. Any thoughts on what I might be doing wrong?
check the section where I had to cut a piece of plastic before putting it back together. there might be something that is preventing it from clicking when going back together
Nice work
Yeah! I was wondering when someone would do this. Great video
Great work! I was wondering where that extra circular spring went. Thanks for the help.
If i want to do the weight mod, is it possible to do it without taking the entire gun completely apart? It looks like when you showed the weights closer to the end you just had the back part or gun stock off, if i dont have to take the cap off to do it, it would be nice...
yes, you can remove enough screws to just remove the stock part to add weights. just be careful as you still need to pry open a good amount of the gun for it to come out
I wouldn't risk snapping the plastic but like Kong says it's definitely possible, I would take it all apart to do properly of I was you mate.
Hi dude have they found a way to flash the gun yet. Thanks
Not in a way that's stable for everyone to use yet
@@KongsRUs I ended up add my pc and using the original sinden light gun but I feel now they are going to waste I hope soon someone finds a way to. Thanks for the reply
Do you have a discord or Facebook I can share my cabinet with you when I'm finished to get your options on it 😊
You can check team-encoder.com for when Mystery Encoder and team makes updates available for it. I have a FB group called Kongs-R-Us StarCade Crew
Nice video, thanks! I just did this mod, it was going smoothly until I closed one of the guns and pinched the wires to one of the switches. The wires completely split. Dumb mistake but I was able to strip the wires and reconnect them to get the switch working again. I'm looking for a more permanent solution to fix the wires, hoping to just replace the switch wires. Does anyone know the size of that connector ? I have wires for other buttons with the same terminals but the connectors are much larger on them... Never seen small connectors like that, having trouble identifying a good replacement. Thanks!
hey Joe, you'll need .110" connectors that fit sanwa style buttons. here's a sample of the encoder wires that come with those smaller connections. as long as you have enough slack to reconnect the wires, you should be able to just keep them spliced together using heat shrink tube, Solder and seal tubes, or electrical wire.
amzn.to/3A4vEm8
@@KongsRUs thank you so much!
hope it works out for you!
Great job!
Thank you for all the time you take to share these great mods with us. I hope Atgames and Arcade1Up watch your channel. They need to take notes. 😂❤️
thank you! I appreciate this feedback
Do the triggers pull further back when you install the new switches? I can see where the clicking sound comes from, but I’m not sure if the new switches allow more freedom for the triggers to move.
It's the same size microswitch I replaced so the trigger moves the same amount
As always awesome job. Scared to do that to my cab. Can I just send my guns to you and have them modded? 😀
lol, you can do it!! just need a screwdriver and that's it. :) I'd be worried about shipping them with the quality of the plastic haha
Thanks for sharing! I do wonder whether you can really even notice the clicking micro switch when the game volume is on and you’re pumping and shooting in rapid succession. Seems like you would have to be paying extra close attention to that one element to notice it. Neat mod but the risk of damaging the guns outweighs the potential benefit for me on this one.
interesting point! for me it's less about the sound of the click, but actually feeling the tactile feedback from it. the range of movement is small on the trigger so the clicking response helps make sure you are pressing it each time.
Good info. I am definitely going to balance the guns! Do you have a part number for the microswitches? I'd prefer to get a small package of microswitches I'll probably use elsewhere than discard a button body...
I don't, but you can always swap the gun switch and put it back into the button to use for other projects
Not worth the trouble at all I was taking the gun apart and come to find out. There was already weights in the gun, and those micro switches were all already in the guns.
The gun is already weighted in the gun stock? And the microswitches click?
I think im going to do the weight mod you did. Could you possibly tell me the length of the gun by chance?
about 26.5" long
@@KongsRUs Can you perform the stock weight mod without disturbing the rest of the rifle (removing the webcam cap)?
@@HeHateMe36 yes, you can remove enough screws to only remove the stock, but you have to be careful to not crack any of the plastic
Great mod and video! I was planning on doing something similar, but with dynamat to try and make the guns sound less hollow. I'm hoping to use a combination of the dynamat and weights now.
I guess increasing the trigger travel didn't work for you? Was really curious about that idea.
Thanks for the comment! Besides the microswitch mod, i didn't change much else to the travel of the trigger since there were already so many parts. the tactile feedback from the microswitch helped alleviate some of the issues i felt with the short range. Hope your mod turns out well!
Great video Kong.. I do have a question for you about transfer the part from Arcade1up big buck gun to Arcade version Gun. Is there any three party companies that have the same spec to transfer the from one gun to another? Have you explored other mod options Because in time how long do think the gun from arcade1up will last of some have kids or company that cant understand they are cheap or in time they will break if customer isnt careful!
Cool!!
Thanks, these mods are great! One thing I've noticed on my arcade1up version of Big Buck Hunter is that it's much more difficult to rapidly fire than on the commercial BBH units. It's especially noticeable on some of the bonus games. I think it may be a result of the a1up pump having a weak spring -- it feels like it doesn't spring back as quickly after you cock the gun, and it therefore takes longer to disengage the microswitch and allow you to start a new reload. Do you have any thoughts on adding a stiffer spring to the pump of the a1up gun?
I haven't played the original enough to know that was an issue with the cocking mech. Could be worth a try, but I can't say for sure it'll improve the issue you mentioned.
Great video, but it needs more Mrs Kong. 🙂
lol, she makes a cameo at least!
Lol, She's Chun Li too watch his big blue video.
Smoking 🔥hot my friend 😍
Weak mods not worth the trouble