Buffy the Vampire Slayer Talk || s3e18 "Earshot"
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I was a junior when Columbine happened, and what made it so different then other school shootings was how badly the media covered it. It was the same with why the Vietnam war was so much more controversial. It's one thing to hear about it, it's another thing to see it. The same thing happened with Columbine. We were watching the coverage in school.
Arent the episodes already done though?
Welcome back! Episode 17 was aired on 3/16/1999. Episode 19 aired on 5/4/1999. Episode 18 aired on 9/28/1999. So it looks like the show was on a scheduled break when the Columbine shooting happened on 4/20/1999.
The scene where Xander discovers the lunch lady pouring poison into the stew and they just stare at each other is so gloriously Scooby-Doo 😂😂😂
I love how Cordelia, whether you like it or not, ALWAYS speaks her mind. That says a lot about her, and her honesty is what makes her my all-time favorite character.
Amen. There's only one Cordy.
I love that school newspaper headline.
"Apathy on the rise; nobody cares."
lol
I wish we could regularly hear Oz's thoughts. To think that he's thinking something that profound and eloquent, and all he says out loud was "Huh". I feel like we're missing out on so much 😅
i need a spin-off for oz where it’s just his thoughts.
@@zoesmith12 Yes!
Thats Oz for ya. Willow seems to share that feeling. She knows him well enough to understand that.
Oz going down a philosophical rabbit-hole while Buffy settles in to watch with a bemused smile is one of my favorite moments in all of television.
One tiny bit I love: Xander is SO panicked by Buffy being able to read his mind that he doesn't even get the multiplication tables right when he's trying to distract himself.
I KNOW and i only noticed that recently. i never even took the time to do the math i just kinda accepted it LMAO
Howcome this comment was able to be posted 1 month ago when the video was just uploaded? 😄
Oh was the video just made public from unlisted or something?
@@scot4187 early release on patreon vs ate release on TH-cam channel
And it's almost a callback to the 'The Pack' in a way too, when Willow is trying to tutor him in Maths and he chucks the textbook stating "I don't get, I won't ever"
@@scot4187 she actually uploads these a little earlier for her patreons and then makes them fully public later
The BEST monster-of-the-week episode of Buffy, in my opinion.
Also, Band Candy is the gift that keeps on giving.
I love that in this episode you can see Cordelia really just says what she thinks. "I think it, I say it!" An Icon.
"Apathy on the rise, no one cares."
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Can't read Angel's mind, he's a himbo.
As The Take's recent video says, Himbos are the best!!! 💛
Angel definitely has himbo overtones at times tbh 😅
I like this take.
It's kind of like in true blood where no one can read vampires' minds
You're thinking of someone else.
Starts with R
ends with iley.
Glad we cleared that up. :D
Probably the most underrated Buffy ep. Not bc people think it's bad but bc it's really, really good!
It’s actually unfortunate that they didn’t show it because of columbine, as even though it was more about suicide and not school shootings, I do think the message is important for both.
@@gorillarawfare1963 In fairness, regardless of the importance of the message, if I had just had a friend or close relative kill themselves, the last thing I'd be interested in seeing was a TV show talking about how suicide is bad, regardless of how eloquent it does so. In the same sense, I understand how the message itself didn't overrule the compassion of not airing media portraying something so similar to a tragedy like Columbine so soon, when so many people wouldn't see anything but the salt in their fresh wound.
@@Leafsdude Kinda wish that same compassion was shown when they named Oz's band. But I guess it doesn't count if it's not an American national tradegy >.>
@@Leafsdude I am not necessarily disagreeing with you, but isn’t this the issue with school shootings, it’s always too soon to discuss why they happen, and then the next one comes along. So not much really changes.
@@horsepuncher95 That dingo story happened in 1980, that's not even remotely comparable to this situation.
Omg. I was washing my face during the scene where Buffy can't read Angel's thoughts and when you totally earnestly said, "Does he just not think?" I legit snorted water out my nose 😂😂😂
I love Oz reading the review and is, "It's fair." He's one of the most mellow characters ever 😂
I like how when Buffy's mom realized Buffy could read minds, her mind immediately went to the one secret she did not want Buffy to find out.
That's how brain works. When you want to not think about something, you automatically get to think about that very thing.
@@Pravdacz-tp8zu Funny how Xander got the right idea (think about something else). Shame it didn't work for him. :D
Well Giles does even say that whatever they don't want to reveal to Buffy is the very thing they will think about. It's similar to the "Don't think about sex". Whatever you try not to think about is what you can't stop thinking about.
@@hekkoCZ 4 time 5 is 30! 5 times 6 is 32!
@@Logan_Baron i was amazed giles didn't think of what happened with joyce in front of buffy!
"Oh, but that would have made sense." This is still my most-used Buffy quote. And Buffy's brow-raise is one of my most-used gifs.
Further evidence that Cordelia isn't stupid, she's just honest!
"Tact is just not saying true stuff." - Cordelia Chase
Or those charactors aren't rich or important enough for her to lie to.
"Tact is just not saying true stuff."This is basically my life philosophy.
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And I get *sooooo* much shit thrown at me because of that.X-(
Xander knew that the lunch lady was the one doing it. He actually guessed that she was the one at the start of the investigation.
Every time I watch this episode, I feel so bad for Jonathan. After she stops him/has the whole speech, he realizes that the only reason she stopped him is because Buffy thought he was going to commit mass murder.
Well, if she'd known he was planning to commit suicide I'm sure she would still have stopped him.
He was up in the school's clock tower with a rifle. The parallels to U. Texas (one of the most infamous school shootings before Columbine) were too strong not to jump to that conclusion.
I feel bad for him because Alley knows him as "this poor kid".
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@@TheNoybusiness I was gonna say "Oh my God she forgot his name."
Hold on to the final season 3. Alley will remember his name. We were like that too on first watch
Buffy's line, "but that would've made sense" is one of my favourite quotes from her in the series. I hope it makes it onto the board next episode.
Born in 1980 here. Yes, there were school shootings before Columbine, but Columbine had a shockingly large body count and made a huge impact on the national news. School shootings had previously been more of a "local student kills 3, self" deal in the regional newspaper.
Columbine also ended up being a big wedge used to crack down on goth kids and black trenchcoats, and the fact that the Columbine shooters were influenced by white nationalism was pretty much unknown at the time. (Lots of people blamed video games like Doom.)
As an avid gamer at the time, Columbine is when I came to distrust the media's portrayal of news. They blamed things I did every day for all the ills of the world, not because they were true but because it was a convenient scapegoat that made the nation feel better.
A difficult conversation about gun violence just wasn't something they were willing to start, no matter how necessary it was.
@@SylviusTheMad The fact that we still have those same video games discussions even now (though much less frequently) is just... Really? Of course, video games aren't the only media that's faced this. Don't forget about rap music!
And don’t forget about the matrix
@@jimmilligan5088 and Marilyn Manson
You are speaking of moral panics. Before it was rap music and Doom, it was heavy metal and Dungeons & Dragons, and the myth of Satanic ritual sacrifice. In the 1950s it was Rock n Roll, and Comic Books. America has a long and shameful history of these moral panic episodes, always used as a scapegoat to avoid talking about the real issues that plague society.
Your reaction to Buffy and Joice's room scene was hilarious because it came in waves LOL
I had to watch that twice because it made me laugh so much
the waves are the best arent they! Adorable!
I know it was convenient to the plot, as you said, but I do find it narratively consistent and interesting that Angel is Buffy's one quiet place in this episode - a break from the noise that is starting to drive her mad - because she can't hear his thoughts. I think it's in keeping with how he has consistently been the one person in the series so far she feels she can totally open up to and be herself with - both slayer and girl.
It might have been convenient but I do think it made sense with the whole story, too.
Did twilight steal that from buffy??
@@yasminemixon5458 I think whether consciously or not Meyer took a lot from Buffy
@@yasminemixon5458 So did the books that True Blood is based on. And Twilight might have copied it from those books , which copied it from Buffy.
It is a much more present plot point in the Southern Vampire ( True Blood ) books.
"I'm just stressed out...I might as well get stressed out about a fictional show." That pretty much sums up what I think draws us to shows like Buffy. It's catharsis! In The Poetics, Aristotle wrote that viewing tragic plays gives people an emotional release from their own stresses, anxieties, and fears. By watching characters go through emotionally charged events and empathizing with them, viewers get a relief from their own negative emotions. Why do we watch characters experience difficulties (sometimes heroically but also tragically)? Because it makes us feel better, not at the character's expense, but because we connect with them and feel for what they are going through.
This idea was picked up by Freud (which I know might not be a ringing endorsement), but it was also embraced by Hitchcock and (I strongly believe) by Whedon.
Just did a Google search, found lots of articles on Buffy and catharsis, including in peer reviewed academic articles. Too bad I didn't get my PhD in media studies!
@@adamgannaway That make sense. Buffy studies are diverse and notable enough to have their own Wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffy_studies
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It's not just tragedy that has that effect. A good soap opera can give you a thorough emotional workout, and enable you to experience all seven deadly sins vicariously without the drawbacks of having committed any of them yourself.
I also like the fictional excerpt from Poetics II that Eco came up with: _"We shall now examine the ways in which comedy stimulates our delight in the ridiculous by using vulgar persons and taking pleasure in their defects."_
I was in high school when Columbine happened, and I remember this not being aired. Such a shame, but because it's such a great episode. The message about how everyone is caught up in their own problems and just to get through it all rings true even now. 12:10 And that's my favorite part of of the episode. Giles walking into a tree wasn't in the script; Anthony Stewart Head just added it in at the last minute.
I hate that anyone who is so young has to go through that trauma. I don't live in a country that has these tragedies occur; school shootings are possible but not common, and I can't believe what it must be like to experience the fear, but also live as a contemporary of those who have lost their lives.
Alley: thanks as ever for being a Buffy fan second and a human first.
Does that message not make it a bit appropriate to air at that time?
they did end up airing the episode but they just had postponed it bc of the shooting
I remember seeing this episode for the first time and the johnathon scene just hitting me so freaking heavy. Man. Not many series could pull off a plot like this and keep the humor perfectly balanced besides Btvs. And the proximity of the scheduled release for this and Columbine happening has always been so crazy to me. Just wild. For those of us who remember Columbine and witnessed the growth in frequency of school shootings.. I think this episode definitely hits us a little harder. The world is so different since then.
Cordelia "tact is just not saying true stuff" Chase saying exactly what she thinks lol
Remember in Twilight where Edward can read minds but he can't read Bella's for some reason.... wonder where Stephanie Meyers got that idea 🤔
Or True Blood where Sookie can read everyone's mind, but not vampires...
I’m in total agreement.
I mean, it's a "DBZ situation" Buffy inspired a heck of a lot, TVD is also HEAVILY inspired by Buffy
@@David-un4cs true blood literally used a buffy line word for word in an episode. the line was 'i'm going to tear out your ribcage and wear it as a hat'...buffy says it to whistler in season 2. true blood used the exact line where a vampire says it to someone....but the context really made no sense to the scene. supposedly it was cause the writer of the episode was a huge buffy fan...but there was no mention of buffy, just a plagiarizing of the line. i was hugely offended on buffy writers' behalf.
@@sydandtaytum
That is more a homage.
It was also not a literaly word for word quote.
Jane Espenson's eps are usually very, very good
Loved the shocked look on Buffy’s face when she found out about her mom and Giles in the Band Candy episode😂 Sarah Gellar pulled it off beautifully
Other than laughing on cue, and those bangs from Amends, there isn’t anything SMG can’t pull off. To this day, one of the most underrated actresses of all time. Her mantle should be filled with Emmys, Golden Globes, and Oscars.
The poor kid is played by Danny Strong. He has two Emmys for writing Game Change. He also wrote the last two Hunger Games films.
Dang! Didnt know he was doing that well now days. Nice!
I knew he wrote an award winning movie or two since Buffy, but went to look him up and discovered he is now a producer on Empire! And he wrote the new book for the musical Chess!
Chess is sort of Anthony Stewart Head related too. His older brother had a hot record from that musical and Anthony did later versions of the show.
SMG advocated to the WB to air the episode as scheduled but she was turned down and Earshot aired weeks before Season 4 .... great episode, it's a favourite of mine
Jane Espenson is such a great writer, and not just on Buffy. She has at least one great episode of Battlestar Galactica as well. Also, Sarah and David are scorching hot in this episode; makeup, hair, lighting, all on point.
9:27 - "APATHY ON THE RISE, NO ONE CARES" Very clever.
Your reaction to Buffy reading Joyce's mind about Giles KILLED me! OMG, you broke up so much! I love Joyce's expressions as she's leaving Buffy's room. One of my favorite Buffy moments ever! Great reaction (as always), keep being you! :)
One of my favorite lines is when the Scoobies are talking about how depressing the school newspaper is and Oz say, "I always go straight to the obits."
Someone once posted that Giles walking into the tree at the end was an accident but they kept it in because it was so funny.
Of course it makes no sense that Jonathan would bring a SNIPER rifle to a TOWER to commit suicide. Come on.
The lunch lady is not identified but she was also in 'Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered' and 'I Only Have Eyes for You'. I thought her name was Doris but that's the lunch lady in "The Simpsons".
I assume Jonathan stole the rifle from a parent or relative and that was just the only gun he had access to. (Though obviously, from the production side, it's just intended to mislead the audience and catch them off guard so they probably didn't bother to think of a reason for it.)
It's crazy how much Columbine changed things. I just found out the movie Scream 3, was suppose to have an entirely different plot but due to columbine, hollywood told them to change the entire plot. they had to change the plot + make it less scary and more funny. which ultimately made scream 3 the worst one.
how is this posted marked a month ago
@@ItsMeBarnaby oh thanks i was so confused
what was the original plot if you please?
@@razycrandomgirl originally Stu was supposed to have survived and been in prison and secretly had some followers who would kill for him. someone made a fan trailer for what the original plot would have been th-cam.com/video/HlnGaaF__3Y/w-d-xo.html
This episode also explains to a large extent the awkwardness between Giles and Joyce at the end of 'Band Candy', especially when Buffy said that she got to them before they did anything,
SMG tried hard to get this episode to air on time, but she was overruled. IIRC, this episode eventually aired shortly before S4 started. I think if Jonathan hadn't brought a rifle to campus and instead brought a handgun, /maybe/ it would have been aired on time, and that is a big maybe. I personally think what was harder to justify was the Scoobies' nonchalant talk about school shootings, Oz even says they were bordering on trendy, and such a line really would not have sat well so soon after Columbine. Also, fun fact, Jane Espenson had the scene with Joyce and Buffy because people kept asking her whether or not Giles and Joyce had sex in Band Candy.
Honestly, the one problem, and probably the only problem, I had with this episode is how ridiculous it is that we're supposed to expect Jonathan to somehow kill himself with that rifle. I'm not sure it was physically possible for him to do so. A handgun or even smaller auto would have made more sense, but then it might have been more ridiculous to think of Jonathan planning to take out students from the clock tower with it, plus you wouldn't have the drawn-out "putting the gun together" montage. I'm still not sure if any of that justifies the red herring there.
It wasn't really this episode that was the biggest point of controversy, but the fact that The WB also delayed the 2nd half of the season finale by almost 2 months for the same reasons. It was a HUGE controversy at the time, with extensive write ups in entertainment media etc. This episode did actually air before season 4 started.
@@Leafsdude When students kill themselves with guns, they're most likely getting it from home, so the fact that he has a rifle makes sense (his family could go hunting or something like that). Also, pretty sure people can kill themselves with rifles... Though I suppose I could be wrong about his specific kind. Saying that, even if it wasn't, I could believe that Johnathan hadn't put in the thought for it. Most people who attempt/commit suicide do it with less thought than you'd expect, because if they were thinking more rationally, they'd be more likely to realize that their situation is temporary. A handgun would probably have made more sense, but I don't think it's that out of left field to be believable (at least, personally speaking).
@@normalgamergal "Also, pretty sure people can kill themselves with rifles..."
Some do, but it's usually a very complex set of planning and actions to do so. And I'm not sure it would be possible for someone 5'1 like Danny Strong is.
"Saying that, even if it wasn't, I could believe that Johnathan hadn't put in the thought for it."
You know what, I'll grant you that. Excellent point.
@@Leafsdude Put the barrel under his chin or in his mouth and pull the trigger with his thumb (or his toe if he's legit that short). There was a doc series about the fall of Hong Kong in WW2. One excerpt was from a member of the garrison who was deciding whether he was going to be taken prisoner or not. He got as far as putting the rifle under his chin and cocking it before he changed his mind. And that a was an SMLE, a fair bit bigger than that target shooter.
My favourite was cordelia saying exactly what she thinks. It explains so much about her.
Buffy reading her mom's mind was both the best and worst thing ever right along with Giles' reaction when he got busted.
Joss wrote the literature class scenes and the Buffy-Jonathan moment in the tower. This is Jane Espenson favorite episode.
Earshot is weirdly crucial to this season’s climax. Buffy needed this to learn empathy, and to understand everyone in the school on a deeper level.
Could we just not inform anyone of anything about the seasons climax before we get there? Its easy to slip when you dont speak of specific details, I know. But anything that changes your understanding of the future is a spoiler. They also have a tendency to add up.
@@erikohman2294 I personally don't think my comment here spoiled anything, all it does is point out that Earshot, while seemingly filler, matters in the end. I kept it vague on purpose. I don't intend to share anything about this season's climax, or else I would have been far more direct about it.
@@MagusAgrippa8 Indeed, I see your good intentions. Nontheless.. SPOILERS:
You are saynig that whats brought up here is important. Her empathy to the entier school is important. For all Ally knows at this point, the students outside the scoobies could be nothing more then background noice. They pretty much where in season 2. Anything that gives hints at what is important going forward is a thing that can change expectations. Changing expectations, especially if it becomes more accurate, is a spoiler. Surley this one is way more subtle then saying i.e "she will involve everyone". However, there is plenty of us here and there is usually a few subtle hints here and there. The effects are cumulative. To avoid things being expected, spoiled or understood, lets just avoid using future info alltogether. These thematic hints are still spoilers, just a lot more well meaning then the Cordy style ones.
@@erikohman2294 I'll give you that much. Though according to other comments, Alley herself is already several episodes ahead, given the delay between the ones up on patreon and the ones uploaded here later. If those comments were correct, Alley is already into the next season. It would be other people watching Buffy for the first time, following along with these reviews on youtube, that would be in danger of any spoilers.
@@MagusAgrippa8 Yeah thats true. So as long as spoilers are no more ahead then that its pretty fine I suppose. Honestly I rarely see people following along with reactors, at least people leaving comments have usually seen the show.
I LOVE this episode! So well done and I always love seeing it reacted to. As for the airing delay, The Columbine High School massacre occurred one week before the episode was originally scheduled to air. Because it included a scene with a student loading a rifle - apparently for mass murder, but in reality for suicide - the WB substituted a rerun of "Bad Girls". The episode was delayed until September 1999, two weeks prior to the season four premiere.
Deadass broke my fkn nail by clicking so fast wtf
BROOO
Xander saved the world a lot too : D
This episode, really flexes it’s dynamic-narrative muscle from humor, maudlin, mystery, psychological-angst and the brutal honesty of a universal truth about life, only to Straight-up rocket back to humor and cap off with The ending
Buffy-“Maybe if you’re not to busy Seepling. WITH. My Mother(!)”
Giles-Oofff
So good.
This episode was originally scheduled to be broadcast on April 27 but was postponed following the Columbine High School massacre on April 20, 1999.
Me, watching Xander in Nightmares: No one reacts like that to a piece of candy! Xander, two season later trying to stop imminent massmurder: Oh, Jell-o!
I just didnt know him back then.
More like he can sometimes track down evil by following snack foods.
Another fantastic episode. Right on the money regarding teenage boys; Willow going back to being insecure while reading Oz and Buffy's face; Wesley's look of embarrassment...with that look by Buffy; Buffy's scene with Joyce is pure gold; Xander still cares for Cordy; 2 fantastic 'villain' twists; and Buffy actually growing as a person after being in so many people's heads for a day. Also noted that Xander prevented other kids from eating when he found out. Oz I regard as also a typical teenage boy, having deep thoughts. Some guys when they zone out are thinking stuff like that or money related, when a girl interrupts and goes "what are you thinking about?" Honestly, it'll take longer to explain, so we just reply "nothing". Regarding school shootings, other commenters and yourself pretty much covered it.
he still thinks about Cordelia. Caring? meh
and Oz is really nice for not holding a grudge against him.
When you think about it, there's probably someone evil in every cafeteria you've ever been in...
I was at Penn State in 1996 when they had the sniper shooter. 1 student died, one student injured. I remember another student found a bullet in one of their books that was in their backpack. They even found bullets in the window ledge of the church across the street from the lawn where the shooting took place. One of my good friends was friends with the shooter. Every one was shocked. To this day, I know where I was when it happened (but didn't know it happened until later even though I was in a set of buildings across from the building the lawn is behind).
First known school shooting (in the US) happened in 1764. It is sad for kids/young adults now a days to have to worry about being shot one day. It's sad to have to sell bullet proof backpacks, have active shooter drills, or for the even younger ones to cry because they are afraid of what will happen. But youth are resilient and maybe one day, these will be things they won't have to think about.
No-one noticed xander guessed right when he said "I've been saying it for years lunch lady Doris is going to kill us off with her mulligan stew" just got the food wrong
I remember when this episode got pulled in the wake of the Columbine shooting. Not having seen the episode (obviously) I assumed it somehow dealt with the subject of school shootings in an insensitive way or made fun of the subject somehow. It eventually aired a few months later and when I watched it, I was surprised that it was actually a very well done episode and not insensitive at all. It's one of my favorite episodes now.
Love the scene with Buffy and Jonathan in the tower - "Every single person down there is ignoring your pain because they're too busy with their own.
..If you could hear what they were feeling. The loneliness. The confusion. It looks quiet down there. It's not. It's deafening.
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I just noticed that you have acquired a jadeite coffee mug, like the one Giles has. Well done! I have one myself, for the very same reason.
"We talked, and then he tore out the heart of a demon and fed it to me, and then we talked some more."
"You see, that's how it should work."
In the episode commentary, Jane Espenson talks about how they deliberately made Buffy unable to read the one mind she really, really wanted to read, her significant other.
Greetings from the other side of November 4; thank God it worked out after all.
My Dad and I had our hardest time ever voting (the week before), and after voting we got a celebratory pizza.
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Hiii!! Awesome reaction, it was so fun!! I love the “does he not think” comment XD
Also just wanted to thank you for putting a trigger warning at the beginning! It’s not something many reactors do so it’s really great that you did. I’ve already seen the episode and I’m not particularly bothered by the contents (not that it’s not disturbing, but I wouldn’t be triggered by it) but if someone was watching for the first time then they might need to know that. Sooo this is a long way of saying thank you, that was a really awesome thing to do! :D
I hadn't realized this episode was delayed until a couple years after the fact. I didn't start watching Buffy until the summer between this season and the next. FX would run 2 Buffy reruns each weekday, in the late afternoon/early evening. I somehow stumbled into one and got hooked. When I finally saw this episode, I just thought it was an ordinary rerun.
Ms Alley Box,
It has been an absolute blast watching these reactions. I was around your age when these first aired and its great to hear the same thoughts to This Show.
That Cat Bell.... JHC that is so funny. Continue to be awesome 😎
I was weirdly super disappointed that there wasn’t the cat collar jingle when we saw Angel. Bring it back!
i just love that look Buffy gives Wesley...that is award winning she should have got an oscar just for that cheeky look.
i've read a lot of teen murder mysteries and statistically the most likely teen to commit a crime (or shooting perhaps) is: popular kids (desperate to maintain status), Loners (desperate for attention), school journalist/ newspaper (have a tendency to lack empathy and use articles to ruin their classmates)
Oh Jonathan. Blew my mind when I found out that geeky kid from my favorite TV show of all time ended up being such a badass producer and creator. He produced the show Empire.
and, of course, cutthroat editor of the yale daily news
I love that thumbnail more than any I've ever seen. I already saw this on Patreon but had to come here to say that.
By the way. I just want you to know I love you. I love watching your Buffy reactions. This show was my childhood obsession. And your personality and sense of humour are great to see reacting to this. Thank youu for making these reactions ^_^ Might join your patreon at some point.
By the way I'm wondering about how to run my own full time reaction channel. If you have any tips or recommendations, like editting software, PLEASE please please do share.
Ok now to watch this reaction video 😋. I paused and posted this before watching. 🤗
I LOVE the laugh at the "you had sex with Giles?!" bit
I broke into my own house to watch this. Left a church group and everything
Epic episode. My favourite line was 'TWICE!' Joss does love his Shakespeare so you might like to check out his version of 'Much ado about nothing' filmed at his house while filming 'Avengers'...you know, for the psychology.
Much Ado is so good!
You are my absolute FAVORITE reactor! I’m always so eager to see what you have to say
Jonathan is a very underrated character
On of my favourites
Don't worry, every dog will have its' day,
I love this episode. I live in the UK so was lucky enough to watch this in its proper place in the season. At the time I was so annoyed on behalf of Buffy fans in the US because I think the message in Earshot, particularly Buffy's speech to Jonathon, would have resonated with the US public, including the Columbine survivors. Apparently SMG tried to push WB to air it for that reason. Trying to repress difficult themes and bad feelings doesn't make problems go away (another episode theme)
and aw man you´re making me laugh.. thank you! Gorgeous entertainment!
OMG I LOVE THIS ONE OZ IS SO FUNNY IN HERE 😂
Alley I have to say I love your channel so much! Because you have such a keen eye on details that both make me laugh and think. Your channel is rising to the top of my favorites list! I hope you enjoy your day!
When Angel's mind was completely silent, "does he just not think?" im dying. He probably made up the vamp explanation to excuse his no thoughts head empty
8:36 merry christmas, Xander!
'you're a very complex man arentcha' had me choking on my coffee
It was shockingly accurate. The first preview of this episode aired on April 20, 1999, the day of Columbine. So it would have actually aired a week, not a month, later.
The earliest school shooting I know about was in Cleveland in 1979. There was a song by The Boomtown Rats about it called 'I Don't Like Mondays'.
Hi Alley, really enjoying your experience with Buffy, been watching since your episode 1 reaction. Given that its a show i grew up with when i was a teenager and have watched many times since (the latest being about 6 months ago, hence why i watch reaction videos instead) I look forward to your future reactions and hopefully Angel also. Anyway, happy new year and all the best to you and yours.
Giles walking into the tree was actually real. It happened so they kept it in. So I read anyways. This is one of my fave episodes
9:03 - Absolute gold.
This was what made me fall in love with Johnathan as much as I do. I wish he never died
I know I'm late AF to this discussion, but for those wondering, I watched the show from season 1 episode 1 through the finale its first run through on tv. It came on when I was 7 and left the air when I was 13. This episode was originally slated to air on April 27, 1999, but Columbine happened on April 20, 1999. The episode "Choices" aired as planned on May 4, 1999. Please note that "Graduation Day Part 2" was also delayed due to a SECOND school shooting. GDP2 wasn't aired until July and THIS episode had to wait until SEPTEMBER, RIGHT before season 4 started.
In the lunch lady fight scene...worlds worst stunt double...
Everybody's internal monologue is them talking to themselves...by definition.
But some of us have more conversation-like ones than others.
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good morning -9am in Berlin (Germany) ^^ thank you for this new episode :)
This is one of my favorite episodes. Buffy hearing Oz and Cordelia's thoughts alone are iconic... but then Joyce not wanting to stay around because she didn't want Buffy to find out about her and Giles from Band Candy hahaha. I honestly love the continuity of this show. Stuff actually gets carried over from old episodes!!
I literally cried when this originally didn't air and we just got a rerun. I was so sad I loved this show!
This is usually my go-to episode for people who want a quick introduction into Buffy, usually followed by S4's Hush.
I love the way Cordelia just immediately blurts everything out loud and has no internal editor.
Society has gotten a lot more toxic to mental health over the course of my lifetime, and across the western world, not just the US. There were no schoolkids killing themselves as a result of prolonged and intensive bullying when I was a kid, or at least I never heard about it. School discipline was much more severe than it is now, but by and large it kept kids safe from each other. That was my experience, that the severe high school I went to was the first school where I felt safe. Social services and psychiatric services were always inadequate here in the UK, but they've been systematically starved of funds for decades under the doctrine of public sector bad, public sector spending bad. People are under much more work stress now, having to work longer and longer for less or the same, and therefore having less time and energy left for family and relationships, and having to worry about their credit card and other debts all the time. And then there's the isolating and mis-socialising effects of market-driven screen addiction everywhere. You've also got the whole gun culture and the public secret of mass steroid abuse among cops, because who's going to stop them. So yeah. If people aren't angry and/or depressed about the state of society, they aren't paying attention.
The school thing - one of the things that's been commented by victims consistently is that there is no escaping it now. With cyber bullying it's on every platform, wherever you go. It's not really surprising how that incites total despair.
@@jaycievictory8461 That's why the idea of boarding scholls has always appalled me, because you're stuck living in a dorm with your tormentors, whereas in normal schools you get to go home at the end of the day and commiserate with your parents. But when they're also on your social media, it's as bad.
In times past suicide was a religious taboo and anyone who was different to the mainstream was locked up in an asylum.
@@MrLorenzovanmatterho It still is a sin, and it used to be illegal. Although that was never a law which was enforceable. Institutionalisation is necessary for some people who can't be treated properly otherwise, but in general being diagnosed or sectioned is itself incredibly traumatic and tends to destroy hope and self-esteem.
@@patrickholt2270 I think it is more and more taboo these days, Tom Brown's schooldays are a thing of the past. Buffy appeals to the outsider as a narrative where the outcast will eventually triumph.
If no one else has mentioned it, that lunch lady was also in the episode "Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered" - she was among the ladies chasing Xander (she was wielding a rolling pin as a weapon. LOL. th-cam.com/video/l5123Co_Tk4/w-d-xo.html )
And was also in IOHWFY way back in season 2.
ON THE HOOD OF A POLICE CAR?!?!?!? TWICE?!?!?!?!
Enjoyed watching your reviews this year, happy to have had your first Buffy vid pop up in my feed :)
The wb pulling the episode sucked so hard at the time...I was so obsessed to find out what happened that I immediately went on eBay and ordered a bootleg copy on vhs (way before streaming and torrent days) from Canada, it aired there but not here in the US,so I could watch it 😝
As funny as this episode is, it also really sad and really important. That scene when Buffy is thinking 'how else would i know what's in your mind?' and Angel says "JUST ASK ME", explain a lot in this episode. Trying to tell us that all we need is paying a little more intention to the people around us, so we hopefully won't get another person who kills himself.
OK ALLEY POPPING OFF W THESE FREQUENT UPLOADS
As a non American, I think this episode was aired without delays around the world.
Welcome back -- Love to see you react to this one. If you look, you can find Jonathon in Season 1 Episode 1. He's been there almost 3 years, and you don't know his name? Just shows what an excellent job he has been doing, as the one that just doesn't register. The actual bad guy of the episode was so random, that shot with 'Rat Poison' was so cartoonish and brilliant. Isn't this the same lunch lady who was chasing Zander with a rolling pin (along with every other female around) just a few episodes ago?
God I love this show.
Was he in 1x01? I knew he was in the unaired pilot, but I've never spotted him in 1x01. I thought his first aired appearance was 2x04.
You are most likely correct... Nice catch. I watched the unaired pilot recently, and was so surprised to see him, I mentally relabelled the show. Gosh.. You must be a pretty big fan.
Sometimes its like Xander can just sense evil. Like when Angel lost his soul. His first guess here at mass murder was the lunch lady.
Could I strongly suggest you read "Columbine" by Dave Cullen? He spent ten years researching the book, and so much of what I at least thought was true wasn't. Columbine, along with 9/11, changed so much about what those of us that lived through it thought about the world and about America.
Can I just say (again if I've commented before) I absolutely love your reactions to the episodes. Your breakdowns and connections to overarching themes make me see the eps with new eyes years later haha. I remember thinking, can you imagine walking through the courtyard and some rando is parkouring her way up the tower out of the blue?
Also I never realized this ep didn't air right after Columbine. I remember the fallout when that news broke and it was a weird sort of wave of concern that just sorta came over everyone if you were in a public school at the time.