REMINDER: No harassing please. 🐼 Join the Discord! - discord.gg/5yCaw8nW Extra Notes - As pointed out, I should've said Mr. Foley instead of Mr. Hawkins, but the point still stands. I'm sure the people who'll correct me will read this comment before they do. 🤡 - To the point of "Creators don't want 'this kinda stuff'": As much as people don't support him, John K supports/supported a Ren & Stimpy Reboot, Rebecca Sugar supported an epilogue of Steven Universe and Seth McFarlane clearly supported the Family Guy spinoff: The Cleveland Show, just as a few more examples. There's also been talks of making more within the Phineas and Ferb and Avatar: TLA franchises. (In fairness, 'this kinda stuff' can mean anything, and I'm assuming in good faith, he means reboots) - That 'thankful for [Kamp Koral & The Patrick Star Show] pulling in little to no ratings' comment shows such a lame mentality in our community where if someone doesn't like something, they wouldn't want anyone else to enjoy it. Animated shows already have a hard time looking great numbers-wise with the current media landscape, so celebrating the downfall of a show you do or do not get paid for just because of hearsay is weird. - I cut out a portion of the video (for brevity reasons) fleshing out the "use your platform to uplift what you like more than trashing what you don't" but to be clear, you don't only have to make positive videos, because that'd be hypocritical of me to say. However, I don't complain about why certain shows are popular and have an audience. I also pride myself on my most popular videos generally leaning more positive than negative, showing that this is not a TH-cam-algorithm perspective, that is a mindset perspective. You can speak about banger shows (reboots or not) that you like and make it work. - I also had to cut out a portion where in his pinned comment, he claimed that his video was not political or racial, because he edited his comment. I'm going to assume that he conceded how silly that claim is. - Stealing this point from my server, but he doesn't go into detail about Ben 10 (2016) despite having it in the thumbnail, which optically looks a way because of the heavy race-swapping conversation.
A whole ass different character. "Race swapping" 1. She's a girl 2. She's a whole new character 3. Timmy is even in the show 4. Wanda and cosmo move onto new kids when the others grow up.
@@Penguinmanereikel i think he meant the Bus driver looks like Timmy from the Episode where he wished to grow up to 40 or something. IDK, didn't watch the show.
Fr, I like when they stay true to the original characters and Fairly Odd Parents: A New Wish does that it made a new character instead of reusing Timmy who would now be an adult but then there's that one person who freaks out when the NEW character is black, gay, or even slightly different than what they want.
Telling someone to make your own character instead of using an already existing IP, yet still mad when said character is created regarding the color of the skin really says a lot about the hypocrisy of the anti-woke crowd.
Ariel, Velma, and 100+ random characters just randomly get turned black to be "more inclusive" or make to make it more controversial so it gets hate watched religiously. Female empowerment doesn't matter if the only way you can do it is to disparage and demean men. "Girl bosses" ruined TV shows and movies as a whole
Gerald Johanssen in "Hey Arnold" is an original black character. Hazel is not, just like Bliss isn't, from Powerpuff Girls 2016 reboot. Stop putting black characters in white themed cartoon, thinking that I, a black man, will like it.
i've heard people actually say that and it's so dumb, especially since you know these are the same people who get mad about blackwashing in media (which i will admit as a poc i'm not a huge fan of either, it just feels like surface level diversity and i'd much rather have new stories being made than just the old ones with a new coat of paint,) and they'll say "just make your own characters!!" and then when they do make original characters that's also bad?? they'll make a ton of excuses but rlly it's just people being mad the protagonist isn't a white guy.
"I dont care about the race of a character" Race was the entire reason he made that video If one truly thinks that a character's race doesnt matter to who they are as a person, then it should matter even LESS to them if a character IS race swapped or genderbent or so on and so forth
This dude completely lost me when he said that he doesn't see Static as a black character one of the main points of his original comic book creation was to show more black superheroes. He is a good character that anyone of any race could relate to but they never forgot that he was a black person too.
It's also funny when people always seem to go after April O'Neil in the TMNT comics when one of the things to take note of was that April was very ambiguous in the original comics as no one really had a nailed design for her, and the only real thing that they had was that she was originally based off of one of the artist's girlfriends, who was mixed. Personally, I think that it's a good thing that the newer reboots have altered the characters more dramatically (especially the turtles. Say what you will about the 80s or 03, but their designs are SUPER boring in comparison to the later ones).
@@Augestein I kinda agree when it comes to 03 and 87's April designs (I like 03's April as a character though), 2012's April looked a lot more interesting in her design despite the jumpsuit being an iconic look for her so I don't really mind the direction they're going with her, especially since she's been getting younger throughout the years along with the turtles.
Reminded me of that interview with the Brave co-director going “gender has nothing to do with this movie.” That movie seriously needs an animated, NOT LIVE ACTION (!!!), remake. Brave, Wish, Ralph Breaks the Internet, Chicken Little, Strange World. The only one I’d be fine with either an animated or live action remake would be The Black Cauldron.
My rule of thumb is: -If a character's race is important to their story, don't change their race. -If a character's race is noticeable in their story, weigh your motivations and reasons for changing their race. This requires heavy thinking. -If a character's race is irrelevant to their story, WHO TF CARES LMAO. Like genuinely who gives a shit. Go wild. but even then the argument of Hazel being a raced swap character is utter nonsense because *SHE'S A NEW CHARACTER*
I agree. I think a lot of the raceswapping is just the natural results of reboots in a new era. You look back at old shows and realize the main cast is suspiciously white, to the point where it feels kinda strange. So alongside putting a modern twist on the show, they 'twist' a few races to reflect modern standards. As long as it doesn't negatively impact the show, who cares. Even if this WERE a raceswap, Timmy's race has literally no impact in the show.
I can't be racist caus I got black friends I can't be a misogynist caus I'm a woman or I got a girl In the kitchen I can't be racist I'm black I can't be wrong, because my emotions said so I can't be cold blooded killer, I spare a random person for an arbitrary reason once in a blue moon if I feel like it I can't be morally bankrupt, I identify as a good person I can't be sexist, cause my friends have girlfriends who play DND Fire power are for people who think they're right, so you give a good person enough fire power and they'll never run out of people to shoot. The pro writing tip of most evil villains
What blows my mind is how the guy even admits that Hazel and Timmy are 2 entirely different characters, but justifies calling Hazel a race-swapped Timmy Turner because both characters serve the role as the MC of their respective series. Like, are we being serious right now? You have to actively be trying your hardest to be this braindead stupid
He's obviously trying to save face in the comments, but can't bring himself to delete the video and rescript it with these points in mind, because that would be "admitting defeat".
He doubled down saying "Hazel fills Timmy's role" 😂. Uhh, Yes. That's the point lol. He really think Timmy was the only child Cosmo/Wanda took care of? It's like saying "Korra is a race/gender swapped Aang". Like bro. Watch the show and try to pretend you're not a clown.
It took me out so bad when ask air basically did the "Im not racist, I like these black characters!" and showed Mr Krabs(a literal crab) and UNCLE RUCKUS of all characters(who's whole character and joke surrounding his character is that he's a self-hating anti-black black man, almost all of his dialogue and jokes about him brings attention to his race so its literally impossible not to see his race within his character)💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 like whatever bro is trying to cook, he needs to stay out the kitchen for real
If he's implying that Mr. Krabs, who is insanely greedy and stole stuff in some episodes, is portrayed as black, then that's a big ol' YIKES right there.
@@greenamber9827 Yeah the two most annoying are cyborg and static, mainly cause for cyborg his race while not focused on was still a part of his character. Mainly some small scenes for him where its harder to notice and the much bigger problem, Static is an amazing show where statics race plays a pretty big part in it. Don't forget the ep where he goes to Africa and works with another black hero and how it helps static accept himself more. Or when he works with green lantern and its revealed that static has always looked up to him.
@@theworstspeedrunner A pretty good example for how Cyborg's race wasn't focused on but is still part of his character is the bait and switch with that one episode in the teen titans show where Starfire was being called "Troq" which is a slur for her people that means she is worth nothing and is inferior and when cyborg talks to her about it he says "So he's calling you a terrible name, and you know that if you punch him out it'll just confirm all the bad stuff he thinks about you" which is an obvious parallel to people in black communities being treated terribly and being called slurs and any sign of aggression or acting out to be used against them as "proof" that said communities are violent. Afterwards Starfire says, "You know what it feels like to be judged simply because of how you look?" and he gives a bait and switch response of "Of course I do, I'm part robot" Him being black wasn't directly referenced or used in the exchange, his character being part cyborg is used instead, but his race is still in the viewers mind as additional context to set the tone of the exchange. I really love that conversation by the way, real good writing in it
Saying a reboot “ruined the world / characters” of a story and “ruined your childhood” are two very different things, as the latter is usually said by pathetic individuals who either think it somehow affects their enjoyment of the original show and or are using it as a bigoted dogwhistle.
@@InfinitySevens True, the original show still exists. If that stuff wasn't preserved in some way (streaming, physical media prints, etc) then there would be a bit of an issue and I think that would be appropriate time to say "childhood ruined"
Yeah, I always thought the "ruined childhood" argument was fucking stupid. Like, the original show still exists and your childhood is over dude. There is no way to ruin it.
The only thing that "ruins childhood shows" is *corporate greed,* otherwise those shows would have never stopped being made in the first place. No creator wants to end a show "before its time," but *you do need a sponsor* to cover the cost of production.
@@pianist150 that's the thing with these kind of annoying people. i swear they only whine about this type of stuff just to hear themselves talk and smell their own farts
It's the truth. They don't care. We saw it with starfield too. People saying make a new game don't add "woke stuff" to game series that already exists, and then those same people kicked and screamed because starfield, a new ip, had pronouns. And we didn't get to the actual problems of the game for a long time.
I think giving Cosmo and Wanda a new godchild was the best decision they made. There are only so many stories you can tell with Timmy alone, he's got to grow up and part ways eventually.
It just sounds like racism ngl. They tell corporations to make new characters instead of “ruining the good ones” and when they do make a new character it’s “WHY IS SHE BLACK?”
Obviously it's to make white people feel guilty about not having black characters in a non-black show. Apparently, Timmy's friend A.J, who's a very intelligent black boy, mind you, wasn't enough for them.
And there's an episode where Richie, Virgil's best friend, has a dad who had a vendetta against Virgil's dad due to the discrimination against African-Americans, until both dads settled their differences to fight another "villain of the week" threat that Richie's dad turned over a new leaf.
@@DanteKrystal yeah. The event that gave him his powers was a fight between multiple gangs that Virgil got forced into attending by one of his friends so that he could permanently deal with one of his bullies,but since he wasn't that type of person in the first place he immediately tried to leave.(Basically the same as the show up to this point) Police showed up and used an experimental tear gas that was supposed to contain something that would allow the police to track down anyone who escaped to arrest them later. Instead it instantly killed like 40% of the people there, horribly mutated tons more and a small percentage, including Virgil got powers without harmful side effects.
He also says he didn't see Static as a black character either and I just had to pause the video cause there is no way this dude actually watched the show to have this opinion 💀💀💀💀
@@hasanmuttaqin464And why does that invalidate it? Hazel as a character is more than her race, she has strengths and weaknesses that could apply to any ethnicity.
something thats amusing about ppl who bring up the live action little mermaid and it disrespecting the source material THE ORIGINAL ANIMATED FILM HAD ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL NOVEL
@@anothermiddleschoolburnout8816 Especially when Disney's _Hercules_ is the most historically inaccurate film ever and it's still doing its own thing. Hades is the villain in any media, but he's the most neutral god in the original Greek mythology.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Disney's Hercules *technically* can't be considered historically inaccurate because it's based on Greek Mythology. It's inaccurate to the source material. The prize for being truly historically inaccurate goes to Disney's Pocahontas.
The duality of racist people is how they'll complain about "raceswapping" characters who were originally white, and then still be mad when they make a brand new character who happens to be a person of color. These people also don't seem to understand that 1. people of color both in shows and in the industry don't get as much proper rep as their white counterparts- Making sure voice actors of color get the roles they should is very important, actually. 2. Characters of color have experiences white people often dont, and showing those experiences is important esp for developing empathy. You can still relate to a character of a different race even if you dont experience racism or a specific culture. and 3. Changing a white character black hardly changes anything, but changing a black character white completely breaks since race/culture often plays a significant role in who that character is. And even if it didnt its still kinda scummy to do that. Turning Tiana from Princess and the Frog white wouldnt work because Tiana's entire character and the setting of New Orleans revolves around her identity as a black woman. that isn't something you can just change without having to rewrite the entire story from scratch.
Point 3 just kinda sounds like you’re saying white characters have no identity while black characters have to always be relatable to real life. Which just seems like a greater division to me.
So with your third point is that white characters don't have a proper story so they can be changed their race but black characters don't? Explain please, because black characters not always have to do something with their race
Shows they don't even really read comics since *there's already a white Black Panther* His name is *The Phantom!* And it's almost like a justifiable race swap because there was a big kerfluffle back in the 70s when it became known Lee Falk was _straight up bullshitting_ and had never been to Africa in the first place. One could almost say Panther exists because the industry wanted an African Hero that was *truly African* Falk himself I wish had a comic based on his life, it's absolutely hilarious. The comic was only *half* his legacy. Most comic artists never really got out of The Bronx/SF/San Diego areas, see. But Falk had loads of respect from contemporaries and academic peers because of "his travels" and he was always bringing back wild tales from his "trips." Yeah , nah, total BS, he was out there giving educational conferences on African politics _without even setting foot on African soil until his 80s!_ Master class art of Bullshido right there. He had academics in the area fooled for decades, and purchased all his "authentic African gifts from tribal elders" while shilling his comics in the UK.I I would love to see if anyone could pull off such brazen bullshittery in the age of the internet among fellow "scholars and experts"
That’s the sad state of affairs in some of these online cartoon “review” circles. And these people know that they are grifting to get clicks and money while outrage baiting! I don’t give them any time of day.
It's kinda weird that guy said A New Wish disrespected when the franchise already disrespected itself multiple times. Even the ORIGINAL SHOW disrespected itself. A New Wish is the most respectful media to the source that this franchise has been in a long time.
tbh i actually admire the a new wish writing team for trying to make a somewhat plausible timeline and cohesive lore out of the original show’s mile-long list of retcons, inconsistencies, and plot points/characters that were never brought up again.
With him saying “unfaithfulness of the source material’ especially with the new Fairly Oddparents show, the whole idea of the original show is fairies are given to lonely abandoned kids so they can find happiness. I haven’t seen the new show, but from what I hear and seen, the show is sticking to that main idea.
Hazel really fits the lonely kids because her brother left to college and she wanted to fit in with the new neighborhood. Also, her parents are pretty supportive too, and they aren't as useless and obnoxious as Timmy's parents, which is a nice change of pace.
To be fair, the source material was very unfaithful to itself too. Like, every other episode they ignored Da Rules. Hell, even the "Fairies go to unhappy kids" is not respected, cuz we've had plenty of examples of kids that don't have fairies being worse off than Timmy (Chester and Tootie), and kids better off than Timmy having Fairies. (Remy and Chloe)
Uh, that's not what he meant: it's more like "race doesn't matter until a white character is turned black", which i kind of agree with, because racebending is often (not always) made for representation, which IS about race. The problem is that this idiot seems to think that Hazel is a replacement for Timmy instead of a successor, which is why his argument is shit. If anything, it sounds more like "a black legacy character to a white character is bad solely for being black". Like those people who thought Miles Morales was the Ultimate version of Peter Parker instead of a different character and hated him for that.
Honestly from what I've seen, the people who go "Woke Bad", talk shit about stuff that has Nostalgia in it too, calling it NostalgiaBait or whatever I don't think they actually enjoy anything.
@@fenrirsrage4609 They're just contrarians for the sake of being contrarian. Like they derive joy from misery, which in turn just makes them more miserable and they feel the need to chase that nonexistent feeling of joy only to find more misery. You can't help these types of people.
@@inplane9970 no, being a contrarian isn't bad on its own and could lead you to understanding a piece of media more than other people. Like if try to understand why certain writing choices were made in media where the writing is considered bad, maybe you will find that most people misunderstood the work. It happens.
@@channel45853 Not bad on its own, but when you do it for the sake of arguing then there's a problem. The term you're looking for is Critical Thinking, which plays Contrarian for the sake of getting more viewpoints. Not for the sake of emotions and petty dislikes.
They were already upset when Fiona and Cake came out, talking about Marsh Lee isn't black. Marsh Lee's Mom was also black which makes me really think and wonder about whether or not Marceline's Dad was black.
I laughed a bit at the coincidence when I saw your comment and then your profile picture, given that is another franchise that swapped character ethnicities twice. Although I'd heard that April just was ambiguously drawn in the original comics, but I also never got into the comics, so no horse in that race.
Blasian* cuz she was based on one of the creators ' girlfriends. On a related note to George's comment, it's funny how Voltron never comes up in these convos just because "she's hawt" If you go through their social medias, a lot of the raceswapping complainers have lewd Voltron art liked or even RT'd Apparently after reaching a certain height women stop being judged on race and it activates something in their lizard brain to "request they be stepped on" 😆 *THE SOLUTION IS CLEAR, ALL FUTURE RACE SWAPS MUST BE TO TALL NUBIAN AMAZONS* 😎
As a black man who’s researched as far as he could, The Fairly OddParents: A New Wish is literally the only GOOD black kids show now. The really sad part is that there’s barely any good black kids shows running right now. I’m sure there’s some I haven’t heard of. But then you look at shows from the big three networks. Young Dylan sucks, That Girl Lay Lay sucks, even The Proud Family sucks now! All three networks have been sabotaging practically every show that isn’t a spin-off, sequel series or reboot for like the past 5 years now. One of the victims unfortunately includes Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. And who knows if that show will get a third season. Raven’s Home, Craig of the Creek and the latter show’s spin-off, Jessica’s Big Little World are all over now. Iyanu: Child of Wonder which we’ve waited for almost two years was just announced to be delayed to 2025! The best we can hope for is that A New Wish stays consistent with their quality moving forward and will get renewed eventually. If it means making the show the most watched on Netflix, so be it. A modern Fairly OddParents show. Who’d have thunk?
It’s not that all three networks have been sabotaging original shows, it’s that Streaming Services had been killing original shows on cable, prime time, syndication, on demand, basic TV for the past 3 years. Its a good thing this year gave us the FOP sequel series that’s on the air. Because it’s probably a step in the right direction for cable.
15:57 In the Teen Titans show, one of the episodes basically covered racism. Starfire telling Cyborg the kind of names she gets called and such over her race. Her asking if Cyborg knows what she talking about. Him saying he does since he's parts robot, but we know what he actually meant given the theme and context of what Starfire was going through
To be fair, in that scene Victor may be legitimately be thinking about ableism rather than racism given how much of the series he spends worrying about how his cybernetics divorce him from other humans and how people might see him as a freak.
It's more like anti-woke comments that complains about Hazel. I can't imagine how these comments doesn't age well when the New Wish finally succeed, which defeats the purpose of the "Go woke, get broke" mantra.
“Cosmo, Wanda, I wish I was a Black Girl!!” This is pretty dang stupid and, as I said on Cartoonshi’s vid, Hazel deserves a chance to be her own character and I do not know anything she could have in common in Timmy that other kids could have… Including having Cosmo and Wanda as FairyOdd Parents, as plenty of other kids have had them as their fairies. I do think there is a discussion for race swapping and saying when it’s questionable when a character race is changed and why, as when Disney does it for Live action movies it does feel like it’s not done for actors talent but because the actors aren’t the original race (it is questionable when this is done half the time) vs when it’s done because the actor loves the character and plays them well…. These points don’t even matter here because Hazel is NOT a race/gender swapped Timmy! This is not a topic that fits with A New Wish.
I'm assuming you're talking about the Little Mermaid, which the voice was the most important part of the series, and Halle Bailey won her audition through her own talents. I don't see how that's impossible to believe. And as far as Snow White is concerned, the story has had so many variations so I'm not sure why it's such a big deal to begin with. Pale skin is just pale skin, and there are plenty of people who are not Caucasian and have pale as hell skin. If there's a conversation to be had, it must really be done carefully.
@@tygerchickchibiIn my opinion the race swapping Disney and many other studios do is a low effort attempt at representation. Instead of creating new original characters that can stand on their own and not be compared to a more popular white version that more people recognize they would rather change the characters skin tone when it adds nothing of substance to the character. It is also a double standard as well. If raceswapping people of color or even casting lighter skinned people to play darker skinned people of the same race is considered racist then I do not think it should be done in vice versa as well. Besides If Disney really wanted to make a live action remake and have African American representation they could’ve remade Princess & The Frog. Although I honestly wish they would just stop with the remakes all together.
There is a legitimate discussion to be had about race swapping, but the Fairly OddParents reboot/sequel show is the WORST possible example to use for that argument! I know I’m just echoing what everybody else has already said, but Hazel is NOT a race swap of Timmy! She is an original character, which I, and others like and prefer to race swaps. But this guy STILL complains? It’s ridiculous. It makes his position feel less like a genuine criticism of culture war nonsense and more like cope to mask actual racism. If I didn’t know any better, I’d say he was being contrarian on purpose and actively TRYING to piss people off. But the fact that he doubled down in the comments section of his TH-cam and Twitter says that this most likely isn’t a troll move.
Yeah, there is a problem with race swapping is how it just uses ethnicity as a pallet swap. Like with My Adventures with Superman's Korean Lois, she at least has elements tying to her heritage, which helps her pass on an alternate take on Lois Lane. With Black Barbara Gordon....... it feels like there was meant to be something there since this is the 40s and....... yeah, I would pay to see Batman clobber racists, and the 40s would be a great time period to explore racism, since most people don't really know much about the Jim Crow Era aside from what gets crammed into the limited class topics on the Civil Rights Movement. Black Ariel...... given the Original Little Mermaid didn't even have a name, she could have just been like Hazel, her own little mermaid with her own traits. Someone separated from the animated movie and allowed to stand on her own. But alas, Disney decided to race swap Ariel, even though they should be more than well aware how much of a hot topic issue it is, and when you look at how Disney and the Media weaponized Live Action Ariel's race...... it makes you feel like Halley's race was nothing more than a shield for Disney to use to protect themselves from inevitable criticism..... only for the movie to bomb anyway because EVERYBODY thought it was an inferior remake.
the only problem i have with this show ver is that i think poof should have been the mc's fairy wanda/cosmo could have stayed with timmy and his kids (maybe also don't like mc's hair idk)
The reason “don’t race swap, make original characters” pivots to “this original character is woke and dumb” is because the point isn’t the character, they just don’t want POC in their media. Same with any other representation of marginalized groups. It’s their way of laundering racist and otherwise bigoted ideas into normal conversation.
I want POC in media but I am also not gonna defend race swapping of existing characters. If the character is a title, like Captain America and a black guy takes over the title, that's great. If they ust suddenly decide Steve Rogers is black and always has been, that's not great, that's lazy. Hazel is how you doit perfectly. April O'Neil is not.
I can see race swapping still being overall negative because of how lazy it tends to be. Instead of writing meaningful representation, they'll just insert a visible minority in and call it a day. The worst is when they then use that as a shield to deflect criticism. Especially if the creator of the piece of media isn't part of that minority group, but the people doing the criticism are. I see it a lot with LGBT "representation" where cis/het writers will call LGBT people homophobic for not liking the background lesbians, but refuse to include LGBT major characters. Or the Disney live action remakes that are lazy soulless cashgrabs but if they make the protagonist black, they can call you racist for not liking the movie, or prefering the animated version. It kind of really shows when it's corporate and the people making it don't care. When the representation is being written by people from these groups, or genuine allies, people who legitimately care, you can feel it. You can feel that it's an actual character with merit. Like Miles Morales, for example.
Geeks + Gamers does the exact same thing with the LGBT community. He _claims_ that he supports them and that he’s okay if they’re “done right,” but still complains when they get involved in media and there ended up being proof of him being homophobic, etc., anyways.
@@troin3925 I cant stand when a series queerbaits or tries to remain ambiguous to avoid upsetting people. Go all in. If people get upset, let them get upset. Their hateful ranting makes it easier to know who to avoid.
@@functionatthejunction It's so incredibly frustrating when they make it a big marketing point too and keep patting themselves on the back like they did something revolutionary. I think it would actually bother me so much less when there was background lesbians or a one-off comment about a character being gay that could easily be interpreted differently or edited out for international releases if they weren't so smug about it and just didn't mention it at all. Then it would come off as "oh cool neat detail a same sex couple is visible in the background in this scene" instead of weeks of news articles going FIRST GAY MOMENT IN STAR WARS and it's two frames of nameless characters in the background that you will never see if they're not actively pointed out to you.
Also, I wish people would stop getting upset about Aprils race because even in the original comics in the BEGINNING of TMNT she was apparently MIXED. Technically, April can be any race. April has been black, and she's been white, like Catwoman (who has been white, black, and Latino :>). There is nothing wrong with a character being ANY race. But people always seem to complain the LOUDEST when a character is now black. My favorite character in the Batman universe is now Chinese! And she's still awesome! And in some ways she's better because they gave her more character XD Hell, commissioner Gordon has gone through several race changes. AQUA MAN is flipping Hawaiian now, for god’s sake. All that matters is that the character is portrayed properly and well! Stop looking for something to be mad about. It's boring and low-key childish atp.
I have my problems with race swapping when its used as a selling point, especially when the actual character isn't changed in any significant way, but it gets really difficult to healthily discuss topics like that when you have people using it as opportunities to be racist or slander creators.
@@greenstarlover1 I doubt its for brownie points as a lot of people suggest, but it wouldn't be the first time companies have intentionally started drama for free marketting.
@@Lumberjack_king yea quite similar, people started calling her frisk right after the first few episodes came out. And I’ve been noticing that Fairly Oddparents has been rly lucky this year, compared to other stuff that left not much of a good taste in everyone's mouths
Genuinely this entire "black woman woke Timmy Turner!!" argument can be ended with just that. She's literally not Timmy. Never once stated to be Timmy. People are getting mad that people are doing the "if you want diversity make your own characters!1!1!1!1" thing that they all tried to argue about every single time a character is changed. What the f-ck changed in their one little braincell that made them backtrack on what was the entire basis of their argument. 😭
Honestly, that video embodies why i cannot take seriously people that say stuff like "Don't change the race of that character! Create your own characters!" but when people actually create this new characters they hate them because "But not like that! It should be a different way that i won't specify but you should discover by yourself!!". Like, dude at that point just say that you don't like to see black people or any racialized person in a main role, or in any role.
Bub still hasn't gotten out of the anti-SJW phase despite the trend withered out in the same time as the trend of "SJW gets owned" compilations died. No wonder why nobody takes the anti-woke crowd seriously anymore.
@@schemar17 He went straight through the "TH-cam critic with a cardboard cutout as a sorry excuse for animations" into the "Alt-right nutbag" pipeline.
@@ExtremeWreck Not wrong. These types usually show themselves out pretty early on. Sometimes they recognize it and apologize for their immature behaviour, but more often than not they end up like this and go "We live in a society 🤬."
He wasn't racist at all, and you cannot be racist to a cartoon character. I, on the other hand, am actually racist. I can show you what real racism looks like, if you'd like.
Disrespect the source material... by what? Making a story set in the Fairly Oddparents following a completely different character? Just because she's black??? She's an original character, ffs
It's laughable how the New Wish was claimed to disrespect the original series' legacy when Nickelodeon did the series dirty by leaving said series to die from a seasonal rot, yet making an another an embarrassing attempt to bring it back (I'm looking at you, Fairy Odder). And letting Hartman do the work for the writing isn't going to help either.
I'm not even very far into the video, and I'm already annoyed at him claiming TImmy Turner was race-swapped, despite the character in the new show being a completely different character. That's like reading a Spider-Man comic about Miles Morales and complaining that they race-swapped Peter Parker.
as dumb as his take on race-swapping characters are i genuinely dislike his other unnecessarily bad takes such as: 1.He thinks that every cartoon reboot during 2010s and onwards is ridiculous when clearly there are some pretty good reboots out there such as Rise of the TMNT and Ducktales (plus others i might've missed) 2.he thinks Stephen Hillenburg would be disgusted by the existence of Spongebob spin-offs when really HE WAS NOT against the idea and was completely aware of it and gave it a pass. 3.saying that Cartoons don't need an overly colorful and bright art-style...yeah im not going to bother explain that, you already know how that silly that sounds 4.saying that Butch Hartman would've single-handedly ''save/fix the show'' is head-scratching given that Butch hasn't made a decent project/show for the past 10 years or so and i doubt that his involvement would do any favors (he would've ruined it...AGAIN) 5.he thinks Rise of the tmnt movie was bad (boo) 6.the whole argument of Hazel being a race-swapped version of TImmy is like saying MIles Morales is a race-swapped version of Peter Parker having said all that, im not going to harass him 24/7 on some bad internet program but i will say this one thing...if you ever really REALLY need to talk and make a well-rounded analysis and critique on a show then talk about THE SHOW ITSELF and NOT about the character that you have no right to trash on because its a new character and not the OG one because of the race-swap (and watch the show for the second time idk)
I think one of the worst parts about his video is he had the potential to talk about something actually important that being race swapping characters is a lazy way to create representation because in reality these companies don't care about representing people and they show that by race swapping characters. if they really wanted proper representation, they would create new characters for those groups of people like what Hazel is but given his points, I don't think he cares about representation because that's not really what his argument is about. If your only point is the new character is a minority and that is woke and woke is bad then you don't really have an argument.
You forgot 7. Btuch heavily endorsed the show and works on it as a producer. What upsets just as much as his outright racism is how poorly research this video is. He didn't do any research and it shows. I can't wait for the "apology video".
@@spaceaxolotl6196 And to be honest April has been black before so it is odd to bring that up. Raceswaps aren't that new and feels the outright is very selective on them.
What really gets my goat here is that one of the other examples of """raceswapping""" given is April O'Neil, who was ORIGINALLY BLACK AND A MIXED RACE CHARACTER. It genuinely astounds me how many people love to use her as an example when they haven't even done the bare minimum research into her character (and by that I mean READ THE SOURCE MATERIAL)
It was clear that A S.K Air had no idea what he was talking about when he said Hazel was a race swapped Timmy whe they are 2 separate characters completely. Plus A New Wish is a sequel not a Reboot.
Even if she was a race swapped Timmy it shouldn’t matter unless your racist or it was brought up as something important also this show could easily explain a race swap just being that they wished to be a different race.
It's really ironic because a big part of that special was making fun of the "woke bad" crowd. But because they have no media literacy, they didn't realize they were being made fun of, and called just as lazy as the people they complain about. They fully thought that special was on their side and "destroying the woke". It would be hilarious if it wasn't so depressing.
@greenstarlover1 There was a special in which Cartman (the antagonist of the series who is extremely racist/sexist/anything bad you can think of) switches reality with a version of himself from an alternate reality comprised entirely of diverse women. So he is in that universe, and the black woman version of him ends up in the normal South Park universe. Throughout the episode, the show calls out the laziness of pandering without meaningful representation, but also simultaneously calls out the equal laziness of "anti-woke" people using anger and bigotry to take advantage of others. It also has a moment where Cartman has a conversation with Kathleen Kennedy, at which point both characters realize that they are in a vicious cycle. That "woke" exists only because it is a direct reaction to people being bigoted. And then "anti-woke" people getting so offended about it only means that pushing for diversity is more important. For some reason, a lot of people watching the episode completely missed the ENTIRE MAIN POINT of it and thought it was just bashing "woke media" and diversity and inclusion.
"Dont touch our favorite characters by turning them black or changing genders, make your own!" *makes entirely original character, set at a different time in the same universe, thereby keeping them untouched* "Noooo, we didnt want this!"
Like, of ALL the reboots to complain about, he had to choose the one that reedem one the series with the worst fall offs, there is obvious a specific "bias" in his views
I really can't stand when certain people won't shut up about race/gender swapping characters because it always just shallow. For me, race/gender swapping a character is totally fine as long as the character's race/gender isn't important to the character. That stuff he said about Static is so stupid because being black IS important to his character! With characters like April from TMNT, her being black really doesn't change anything because in all the iterations I've seen of her, her being white never really effected the story at all. And Velma, well there are a lot of things wrong with that version of her character but her being Indian is not one of them. Her character could be white like she is in all other iterations of the franchise, and she'd still be a bad character because of how she's written.
as i understand it, the issue isn't race swapping in itself, but the overt hypocrisy that comes with doing it one way, and then actively trying to cancel people who do it the other way. namely on twitter, not with normal people, and twitter is absolutely awful. artists have been harrassed for drawing characters a little to light, but other artists race swap and it's fine. not saying i agree with them, just pointing out the actual problem people have with it.
@@nunote2362if you have to ask yourself “why is this okay but this isn’t” when it comes to raceswapping, then you literally do not need to speak on a topic you clearly have no understanding of
@@wompwompcryabttit that's very convenient, no actual point just "if you don't already agree with it, then you shouldn't say anything about it". that's definitely not going to breed resentment from anyone who may be open to understanding it. if everyone treated things like that, the world would be an even more terrible place than it is. if you don't have anything constructive to add to the conversation, then you literally do not need to speak, as you clearly have no point.
@@nunote2362 Of course I didn’t provide a point, because the video you quite literally clicked on already provided it 💀 But if I have to reiterate the point, then I will. There’s a lot of nuance in the conversation around race-swapping in media (that you clearly lack and do not get), which is why it's not hypocritical when characters who were originally white are reimagined as people of color, but it is more problematic when the reverse happens. *Historical Underrepresentation and Exclusion*: Historically, Hollywood and other media industries have largely excluded PoC from significant roles, leading to a massive underrepresentation of non-white characters. This exclusion was reinforced by policies like the **Hays Code**, which RESTRICTED the depiction of PoC in many roles, often relegating them to stereotypical or minor characters. Because of this, PoC have had far fewer opportunities to see themselves represented in meaningful and diverse ways. Cultural Dominance and Representation: White characters have dominated media for decades, leaving PoC with limited representation. When PoC are cast in roles that were originally white, it’s an attempt to correct this imbalance and provide more inclusive representation. This is especially important because PoC still face significant barriers in being cast for leading roles that aren’t tied to racial stereotypes. Overrepresentation of White Characters: White people have been overrepresented in media for so long that race-swapping white characters to PoC is a way to address the lack of diversity. On the other hand, race-swapping a PoC character to white further exacerbates the problem of underrepresentation, erasing the little representation that exists for PoC. In essence, while race-swapping white characters to PoC is an effort to increase diversity and representation, race-swapping in the opposite direction reinforces the same exclusionary practices that have marginalized PoC in media for so long.
i remember when soul eater came out and no one got mad that crona was gender swapped in the anime version for no reason. in the manga the character is male but in the anime the character is female but the gender as you said wasnt important.
You didn't mention my little pony friendship is magic in the beginning part when you listing reboots people liked. Generation 4 of MLP was a reboot and a massively successful one at that.
Him calling Hazel a raceswap Timmy turner was one thing I disliked 💀 But then I heard this guy said *I don’t see Cyberbog as black* and I’m like THE FUCK DID YOU SAY 💀💀
Jay. I’ve been watching you probably quite literally since 2017, I can’t remember when. But I need you to know that I am SO SO glad that you made this video. You could’ve gone the easy route and just said “you’re racist” but instead you chose good faith again and again and again. You are one of the few TH-camrs I always enjoy seeing on my timeline and tuning into, even if I don’t comment, because of that good will bone in you. You’re awesome!
what’s super ironic is that he’s using april o’neil as an example of race swapping to justify his argument when in reality she was originally a biracial woman (half black/half irish). in the comics where she first appeared she was poc but then the 80’s show made her a red haired white woman. the new tmnt shows just switch her back to her original ethnicity so he’s using a character that hasn’t been race swapped, as an example of characters who have been raced swapped
I think the concept of raceswapping was preety well utulized until 2016. Since until that point, they just cast charismatic actors/actresses for the roles they beign given. But after 2016 everything went downhill. Companies now using the concept for pandering or escape from critizms. Similar to how concept of Multiverse now just beign used as nostalgia bait. The Little Mermaid is a great example of this. The story is %95 copy-paste from the org animated movie. They just changed the skin tone of few characters here and there. Like please think about it. Everytime we talk about the movie, everyone thinks the raceswapping. Not the story, awfull cgı or how it beign failed at improving the source materiall in a meaningfull way.
0:53 15 seconds in and you can tell he’s a liar who didn’t even watch the show and got all his info from some randos on Twitter who also didn’t watch the show
"Flashy artstyle"... isn't that something shows WANT to have in order to stand out from the other animated shows on the market? Also, this guy's takes are so braindead that he's making Lily Orchard seem like a veteran literary scholar
I watched static Shock every day after school on sbt as a kid (yes I'm Brazilian) And seeing this dude saying that he didn't saw Virgil (along with blade and cyborg) as black is just disrespectful and dumb
I do think the morals and ethics of race swapping in general are a topic that can be debated(both the people for it and against it tend to make their own good points), but going out of your way to complain about a show you haven't even seen or researched is just idiotic.
I think the largest part is that the race of the character doesn't matter, if a character is good, they're good, if they happen to be black, then cool glad there's a character I enjoy, and can relate to. If a character is bad, that sucks, if they happen to be black, then darn wish we had a better character. I feel this "woke" label is just people being adverse to change, existing in a society that has evolved for the better, to be more inclusive, and they're just not comfortable with that, but instead of their refusal to change/accept how things are, it's everybody else.
Maybe its an American thing but some groups truly think they're the only ones that exist and everybody only watches them. Do they realize in Africa, Africans watch African content?
Well, personally, I think it's because it comes off as unnecessary at times, like with The Little Mermaid. Some people thought that Ariel was exactly the same except black, that the writers didn't try to work off of the character in the original film. I mean, I understand, if they're going to continue making these remakes then they might as well. Also, for people that might think I don't like The New Wish, I think it's fine: I like the animation, the new storylines seem interesting, and Hazel is her own character separate from Timmy. Overall, it seems ok.
the thing i hate most about the race comment is that people CONSTANTLY tell us when a character is race swapped just to “make a new character” and when this is done they will complain. this only furthers my thought that they don’t care if we swap a character or not they just only see white as “normal” and the base, so anything that isn’t that can’t be just because people WANTED to create a better reflection of other people in country and world but only for diversity brownie points. anything that is diverse can not be diverse just for the sake of it but there is always an ulterior motive and such. you simply just do not want to see poc on your screen, especially as protagonist. cyborg and especially static shocks blackness has always been integral to their character. and to not see that is to be purposely blind
>Fairly Odder sucking so much Paramount has been actively trying to erase it from existence >A New Wish being actively praise as a genuinely good new view to the FOP core concept >A.S.K Air: Clearly is BLACKWASHING what's ruining -my childhood- FOP This alone speaks volumes about that person...
I personally hate raceswaps/genderswaps a lot, cuz I feel like they're lazy, creatively bankrupt, are typically caricatures, and give "art fixer energy" a lot of the time, him comparing Hazel with that stuff is just... wrong. She's an original character, a real charming one too, so the point really falls flat when you include an original character with that stuff!
14:15 I do understand the importance of that episode being about judging people by their race, but people can relate to episode like this and not be black. As a black man who's grown up with dealing with ignorance of different people. That episode can hit home for multiple people of different race and/or backgrounds. That's why static shock is so popular like spiderman.
@@blueclube30000 you do understand that the reason the racist said those things is cause static is black right? Just cause other people can related doesn’t disprove the point. The point is saying “I can’t see static as a black character” is dumb because with in the context of that episode he is discriminated because he is black. Would you watch a show where a girl has period cramps and say “well guys have cramps to so I don’t really see how this show is about womenhood” if you would then I think you watch media with your eyes and ears closed :(
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Extra Notes
- As pointed out, I should've said Mr. Foley instead of Mr. Hawkins, but the point still stands. I'm sure the people who'll correct me will read this comment before they do. 🤡
- To the point of "Creators don't want 'this kinda stuff'": As much as people don't support him, John K supports/supported a Ren & Stimpy Reboot, Rebecca Sugar supported an epilogue of Steven Universe and Seth McFarlane clearly supported the Family Guy spinoff: The Cleveland Show, just as a few more examples. There's also been talks of making more within the Phineas and Ferb and Avatar: TLA franchises. (In fairness, 'this kinda stuff' can mean anything, and I'm assuming in good faith, he means reboots)
- That 'thankful for [Kamp Koral & The Patrick Star Show] pulling in little to no ratings' comment shows such a lame mentality in our community where if someone doesn't like something, they wouldn't want anyone else to enjoy it. Animated shows already have a hard time looking great numbers-wise with the current media landscape, so celebrating the downfall of a show you do or do not get paid for just because of hearsay is weird.
- I cut out a portion of the video (for brevity reasons) fleshing out the "use your platform to uplift what you like more than trashing what you don't" but to be clear, you don't only have to make positive videos, because that'd be hypocritical of me to say. However, I don't complain about why certain shows are popular and have an audience. I also pride myself on my most popular videos generally leaning more positive than negative, showing that this is not a TH-cam-algorithm perspective, that is a mindset perspective. You can speak about banger shows (reboots or not) that you like and make it work.
- I also had to cut out a portion where in his pinned comment, he claimed that his video was not political or racial, because he edited his comment. I'm going to assume that he conceded how silly that claim is.
- Stealing this point from my server, but he doesn't go into detail about Ben 10 (2016) despite having it in the thumbnail, which optically looks a way because of the heavy race-swapping conversation.
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The Ben 10 shows you mentioned are sequels not reboots
For a guy who tries to say he doesn’t seem to see the colour of characters, he really does repeat how Hazel being black is all she is.
"No fan of the Inkantation is a foe of mine! I don't see species!"
Yeah. I thought about it too. He keeps going on about how she's unappealing but he's just mentioning her race...
@@siegejaymoonii Really makes you think...
@@EngineerMonkeyBTD6 I wonder...🤔
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A whole ass different character. "Race swapping"
1. She's a girl
2. She's a whole new character
3. Timmy is even in the show
4. Wanda and cosmo move onto new kids when the others grow up.
@@MuddyLives lol. Timmy's not in the show. All his appearance were red herrings.
@@Penguinmanereikel i think he meant the Bus driver looks like Timmy from the Episode where he wished to grow up to 40 or something.
IDK, didn't watch the show.
@@shimaphys that was a reference to his old man look, they said it wasn’t him
@@shimaphysnope that's not him, it just happens to look like him. Ironically it was revealed that they cut out a scene of the real older Timmy
There's literally an entire episode dedicated to a hall of kids they were with before Timmy. And those were just the bad kids.
“Stop race swapping characters! Just make original characters.”
*Makes an original black character*
“NO, BAD-“
Fr, I like when they stay true to the original characters and Fairly Odd Parents: A New Wish does that it made a new character instead of reusing Timmy who would now be an adult but then there's that one person who freaks out when the NEW character is black, gay, or even slightly different than what they want.
Real, the problem (for those "people") isn't that they change color of the character, but that the character is black
Telling someone to make your own character instead of using an already existing IP, yet still mad when said character is created regarding the color of the skin really says a lot about the hypocrisy of the anti-woke crowd.
Ariel, Velma, and 100+ random characters just randomly get turned black to be "more inclusive" or make to make it more controversial so it gets hate watched religiously. Female empowerment doesn't matter if the only way you can do it is to disparage and demean men. "Girl bosses" ruined TV shows and movies as a whole
Gerald Johanssen in "Hey Arnold" is an original black character. Hazel is not, just like Bliss isn't, from Powerpuff Girls 2016 reboot. Stop putting black characters in white themed cartoon, thinking that I, a black man, will like it.
I said this before, but saying that Hazel is a raceswapped Timmy Turner is like saying Miles Morales is a raceswapped Peter Parker
People do say that. They're stupid.
They'd even say that Miles isn't Spider-Man.
i've heard people actually say that and it's so dumb, especially since you know these are the same people who get mad about blackwashing in media (which i will admit as a poc i'm not a huge fan of either, it just feels like surface level diversity and i'd much rather have new stories being made than just the old ones with a new coat of paint,) and they'll say "just make your own characters!!" and then when they do make original characters that's also bad?? they'll make a ton of excuses but rlly it's just people being mad the protagonist isn't a white guy.
@@michaelstrong5383 That _is_ kind of the plot of ATSV tho lol
@@Fay7666 Those guys would actually be on Miguel's side when he called Miles an anomaly.
"I dont care about the race of a character"
Race was the entire reason he made that video
If one truly thinks that a character's race doesnt matter to who they are as a person, then it should matter even LESS to them if a character IS race swapped or genderbent or so on and so forth
....Why did he put Mr. Krabs in his *"I'm not racist! All my favorite characters are different ethnicities"* list??
How dare you! Crabs are people too!
I think it’s supposed to be a Nazi joke? About how Jews are greedy.
And he didn’t include Larry the lobster. The disrespect towards lobsters
Crabs Lives Matter too yknow
I think it's a job about Krabs being Red or Carribean or Pacific Islander or something...
This dude completely lost me when he said that he doesn't see Static as a black character one of the main points of his original comic book creation was to show more black superheroes. He is a good character that anyone of any race could relate to but they never forgot that he was a black person too.
It's also funny when people always seem to go after April O'Neil in the TMNT comics when one of the things to take note of was that April was very ambiguous in the original comics as no one really had a nailed design for her, and the only real thing that they had was that she was originally based off of one of the artist's girlfriends, who was mixed.
Personally, I think that it's a good thing that the newer reboots have altered the characters more dramatically (especially the turtles. Say what you will about the 80s or 03, but their designs are SUPER boring in comparison to the later ones).
@@Augestein I kinda agree when it comes to 03 and 87's April designs (I like 03's April as a character though), 2012's April looked a lot more interesting in her design despite the jumpsuit being an iconic look for her so I don't really mind the direction they're going with her, especially since she's been getting younger throughout the years along with the turtles.
Reminded me of that interview with the Brave co-director going “gender has nothing to do with this movie.” That movie seriously needs an animated, NOT LIVE ACTION (!!!), remake. Brave, Wish, Ralph Breaks the Internet, Chicken Little, Strange World. The only one I’d be fine with either an animated or live action remake would be The Black Cauldron.
Also in the Static Shock show, he had to deal with his friends’s dad who didn’t like him
So your saying you see race? Interesting...
My rule of thumb is:
-If a character's race is important to their story, don't change their race.
-If a character's race is noticeable in their story, weigh your motivations and reasons for changing their race. This requires heavy thinking.
-If a character's race is irrelevant to their story, WHO TF CARES LMAO. Like genuinely who gives a shit. Go wild.
but even then the argument of Hazel being a raced swap character is utter nonsense because *SHE'S A NEW CHARACTER*
i swear i saw a different person with a homestuck pfp make this exact comment on a different video about race swapping
I agree. I think a lot of the raceswapping is just the natural results of reboots in a new era. You look back at old shows and realize the main cast is suspiciously white, to the point where it feels kinda strange. So alongside putting a modern twist on the show, they 'twist' a few races to reflect modern standards.
As long as it doesn't negatively impact the show, who cares. Even if this WERE a raceswap, Timmy's race has literally no impact in the show.
"don't raceswap! Just make original black characters"
"This original black character is woke and pandering and a raceswap"
Did the guy even watch the show? If he did, he would know that Hazel is not Timmy and a female
this is an excellent rule of thumb that actually takes nuance into account. i love it
"A lot of my favorite characters are people of various ethnicities and racial tones"
Same energy as "I can't be racist, I have black friends!"
What makes me laugh is that they're obviously lying and pretending when they say that.
I can't be racist caus I got black friends
I can't be a misogynist caus I'm a woman or I got a girl In the kitchen
I can't be racist I'm black
I can't be wrong, because my emotions said so
I can't be cold blooded killer, I spare a random person for an arbitrary reason once in a blue moon if I feel like it
I can't be morally bankrupt, I identify as a good person
I can't be sexist, cause my friends have girlfriends who play DND
Fire power are for people who think they're right, so you give a good person enough fire power and they'll never run out of people to shoot.
The pro writing tip of most evil villains
I’m not a murderer, my friend is alive.
I cant be racist, I like Mr. Krabs.
This.
What blows my mind is how the guy even admits that Hazel and Timmy are 2 entirely different characters, but justifies calling Hazel a race-swapped Timmy Turner because both characters serve the role as the MC of their respective series. Like, are we being serious right now? You have to actively be trying your hardest to be this braindead stupid
It’s because the bottom line is racism. The “it’s about creativity” bit is just to launder bigotry into discussions.
It's almost like fairies get new godkids once their previous ones grow up
He simply hates seeing a female PoC taking the role of an MC. There's nothing else to it. Just blatant bigotry.
This is like doing your best not to understand the show.
He's obviously trying to save face in the comments, but can't bring himself to delete the video and rescript it with these points in mind, because that would be "admitting defeat".
The constant “Hazel is a Black Girl Timmy” is extremely frustrating cause SHE 👏 ISNT 👏 TIMMY 👏 she’s a new character a whole new character
He doubled down saying "Hazel fills Timmy's role" 😂. Uhh, Yes. That's the point lol. He really think Timmy was the only child Cosmo/Wanda took care of?
It's like saying "Korra is a race/gender swapped Aang". Like bro. Watch the show and try to pretend you're not a clown.
It took me out so bad when ask air basically did the "Im not racist, I like these black characters!" and showed Mr Krabs(a literal crab) and UNCLE RUCKUS of all characters(who's whole character and joke surrounding his character is that he's a self-hating anti-black black man, almost all of his dialogue and jokes about him brings attention to his race so its literally impossible not to see his race within his character)💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀 like whatever bro is trying to cook, he needs to stay out the kitchen for real
Most of the characters are from kids shows from the early 2000s. I'm guessing he didn't notice the characters' race because he was a child.
If he's implying that Mr. Krabs, who is insanely greedy and stole stuff in some episodes, is portrayed as black, then that's a big ol' YIKES right there.
That’s what happens when you aren’t actual fans of the examples you’re using…
@@greenamber9827 Yeah the two most annoying are cyborg and static, mainly cause for cyborg his race while not focused on was still a part of his character. Mainly some small scenes for him where its harder to notice and the much bigger problem, Static is an amazing show where statics race plays a pretty big part in it. Don't forget the ep where he goes to Africa and works with another black hero and how it helps static accept himself more. Or when he works with green lantern and its revealed that static has always looked up to him.
@@theworstspeedrunner A pretty good example for how Cyborg's race wasn't focused on but is still part of his character is the bait and switch with that one episode in the teen titans show where Starfire was being called "Troq" which is a slur for her people that means she is worth nothing and is inferior and when cyborg talks to her about it he says "So he's calling you a terrible name, and you know that if you punch him out it'll just confirm all the bad stuff he thinks about you" which is an obvious parallel to people in black communities being treated terribly and being called slurs and any sign of aggression or acting out to be used against them as "proof" that said communities are violent. Afterwards Starfire says, "You know what it feels like to be judged simply because of how you look?" and he gives a bait and switch response of "Of course I do, I'm part robot"
Him being black wasn't directly referenced or used in the exchange, his character being part cyborg is used instead, but his race is still in the viewers mind as additional context to set the tone of the exchange.
I really love that conversation by the way, real good writing in it
Hazel is what Chloe SHOULD have been.
Ikr
Fr!
Definitely
Fr!
Yep
Saying a reboot “ruined the world / characters” of a story and “ruined your childhood” are two very different things, as the latter is usually said by pathetic individuals who either think it somehow affects their enjoyment of the original show and or are using it as a bigoted dogwhistle.
We need to stop using "childhood ruined" for unserious shit like "why media different from before???" and instead for actually pressing matters.
@@InfinitySevens True, the original show still exists. If that stuff wasn't preserved in some way (streaming, physical media prints, etc) then there would be a bit of an issue and I think that would be appropriate time to say "childhood ruined"
Yeah, I always thought the "ruined childhood" argument was fucking stupid.
Like, the original show still exists and your childhood is over dude. There is no way to ruin it.
@@matthewl5434 I meant for more pressing matters like someone in adulthood realizing their childhood was pretty fucked up in hindsight.
The only thing that "ruins childhood shows" is *corporate greed,* otherwise those shows would have never stopped being made in the first place. No creator wants to end a show "before its time," but *you do need a sponsor* to cover the cost of production.
Annoying people online: Just stop raceswapping. Make some new characters.
*Makes a new character*
Annoying people online: STOP IT!!!
@@pianist150 it's because they want white only
@@pianist150 that's the thing with these kind of annoying people. i swear they only whine about this type of stuff just to hear themselves talk and smell their own farts
It's the truth. They don't care. We saw it with starfield too. People saying make a new game don't add "woke stuff" to game series that already exists, and then those same people kicked and screamed because starfield, a new ip, had pronouns. And we didn't get to the actual problems of the game for a long time.
@@miles9462 ok grandpa. It seems you forgot to take your pills. 🤌🏽💊
@@vyabillie4415 when you can't actually address the argument and result to insults, you've lost. Every time that pushes that shit, fails.
new wish isnt even a reboot
Correct. It's a sequel series.
@@CrobatmanIamthenight It is really annoying how reboots, remakes, continuations, and spinoffs are all confused for each other
That’s right. It’s a spin-off. It’s a continuation. Big differences.
I think he doesn't know what that word means.
@@Fazkruegerthank you. I’ve been saying this for a long time 😂
I think giving Cosmo and Wanda a new godchild was the best decision they made. There are only so many stories you can tell with Timmy alone, he's got to grow up and part ways eventually.
Yeah, especially when you consider that it’s apparently canon that they were with timmy for 50 years
It just sounds like racism ngl. They tell corporations to make new characters instead of “ruining the good ones” and when they do make a new character it’s “WHY IS SHE BLACK?”
Obviously it's to make white people feel guilty about not having black characters in a non-black show. Apparently, Timmy's friend A.J, who's a very intelligent black boy, mind you, wasn't enough for them.
Do- do they not know the origin of static shock in comics? He got gassed by the fucking cops
Im sorry, WHAT?
And there's an episode where Richie, Virgil's best friend, has a dad who had a vendetta against Virgil's dad due to the discrimination against African-Americans, until both dads settled their differences to fight another "villain of the week" threat that Richie's dad turned over a new leaf.
@@DanteKrystal yeah. The event that gave him his powers was a fight between multiple gangs that Virgil got forced into attending by one of his friends so that he could permanently deal with one of his bullies,but since he wasn't that type of person in the first place he immediately tried to leave.(Basically the same as the show up to this point)
Police showed up and used an experimental tear gas that was supposed to contain something that would allow the police to track down anyone who escaped to arrest them later. Instead it instantly killed like 40% of the people there, horribly mutated tons more and a small percentage, including Virgil got powers without harmful side effects.
No, I don't "read" H1terite comic "books" about far-right Nietzschean supermen or whatever. I read actual books with no pictures.
@@WaxMeber cringe
"I never saw Blade as a Black Character" IM CRYING, HE DID NOT-
He also says he didn't see Static as a black character either and I just had to pause the video cause there is no way this dude actually watched the show to have this opinion 💀💀💀💀
@@Generalmituna8079He even called him “static shock” yea he did not watch it 😂
@@HermitPurple That made me cringe so hard like dude that's the name of the show not the character LMAO
Like there's nothing wrong with seeing color. As long as you don't see color as a bad thing
💀💀💀😭🙏✋
You can tell that he failed on criticizing hazel wells for calling her "black timmy turner" great vid jay.
I actually think this is a worthy continuation of the classic show. A rare achievment of something done right for once
@@olleselin 💯
i don't think it is, hazel is black
@@hasanmuttaqin464 😐
@@hasanmuttaqin464And why does that invalidate it? Hazel as a character is more than her race, she has strengths and weaknesses that could apply to any ethnicity.
@@jbcatz5 he was joking/trolling
something thats amusing about ppl who bring up the live action little mermaid and it disrespecting the source material
THE ORIGINAL ANIMATED FILM HAD ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL NOVEL
Specially not the ending ☠️
Most of the movies Disney made were unfaithful to their source material. It's not always a bad thing.
@@anothermiddleschoolburnout8816 Especially when Disney's _Hercules_ is the most historically inaccurate film ever and it's still doing its own thing. Hades is the villain in any media, but he's the most neutral god in the original Greek mythology.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 Disney's Hercules *technically* can't be considered historically inaccurate because it's based on Greek Mythology. It's inaccurate to the source material. The prize for being truly historically inaccurate goes to Disney's Pocahontas.
Like Arielle didn’t have a happy ending in the original novel, she fucking died
The duality of racist people is how they'll complain about "raceswapping" characters who were originally white, and then still be mad when they make a brand new character who happens to be a person of color. These people also don't seem to understand that 1. people of color both in shows and in the industry don't get as much proper rep as their white counterparts- Making sure voice actors of color get the roles they should is very important, actually. 2. Characters of color have experiences white people often dont, and showing those experiences is important esp for developing empathy. You can still relate to a character of a different race even if you dont experience racism or a specific culture. and 3. Changing a white character black hardly changes anything, but changing a black character white completely breaks since race/culture often plays a significant role in who that character is. And even if it didnt its still kinda scummy to do that.
Turning Tiana from Princess and the Frog white wouldnt work because Tiana's entire character and the setting of New Orleans revolves around her identity as a black woman. that isn't something you can just change without having to rewrite the entire story from scratch.
I always laugh when they say this as well as Black Panther
Point 3 just kinda sounds like you’re saying white characters have no identity while black characters have to always be relatable to real life. Which just seems like a greater division to me.
White Black Panther:
T%27Challa_(Earth-200505)
So with your third point is that white characters don't have a proper story so they can be changed their race but black characters don't? Explain please, because black characters not always have to do something with their race
Shows they don't even really read comics since *there's already a white Black Panther*
His name is *The Phantom!*
And it's almost like a justifiable race swap because there was a big kerfluffle back in the 70s when it became known Lee Falk was _straight up bullshitting_ and had never been to Africa in the first place.
One could almost say Panther exists because the industry wanted an African Hero that was *truly African*
Falk himself I wish had a comic based on his life, it's absolutely hilarious. The comic was only *half* his legacy. Most comic artists never really got out of The Bronx/SF/San Diego areas, see. But Falk had loads of respect from contemporaries and academic peers because of "his travels" and he was always bringing back wild tales from his "trips." Yeah , nah, total BS, he was out there giving educational conferences on African politics _without even setting foot on African soil until his 80s!_ Master class art of Bullshido right there. He had academics in the area fooled for decades, and purchased all his "authentic African gifts from tribal elders" while shilling his comics in the UK.I
I would love to see if anyone could pull off such brazen bullshittery in the age of the internet among fellow "scholars and experts"
I agree with everything here but "Timmy is the opposite of a black girl" is a really funny quote lmao
"An overt unfaithfulness to the source material." Considering how FoP ended, that is by far the best thing that could have happened to a reboot.
That’s the sad state of affairs in some of these online cartoon “review” circles. And these people know that they are grifting to get clicks and money while outrage baiting!
I don’t give them any time of day.
@@walpoleandworcester fr
@@walpoleandworcester That's why I don't watch a lot of online cartoon critics these days.
@@walpoleandworcester W
outrage baiting also happens with game "reviews". its why i hate most review channels outside of civvie 11
@@gojizard704IGN is a good example of terrible game reviews, they're good at everything *EXCEPT* game reviews
Honestly, the show isn't even that bad, and it's been a refreshing take from the original series.
Absolutely. On the plus side, Cosmo and Wanda reverted back to lovebirds again, and Poof, now Peri, made a comeback.
It's kinda weird that guy said A New Wish disrespected when the franchise already disrespected itself multiple times. Even the ORIGINAL SHOW disrespected itself. A New Wish is the most respectful media to the source that this franchise has been in a long time.
As someone who loved the original show, it dug itself into such a deep hole that a new wish couldn’t ruin it any further even if it tried
its better than the live action attempt, which is a win in my book
tbh i actually admire the a new wish writing team for trying to make a somewhat plausible timeline and cohesive lore out of the original show’s mile-long list of retcons, inconsistencies, and plot points/characters that were never brought up again.
With him saying “unfaithfulness of the source material’ especially with the new Fairly Oddparents show, the whole idea of the original show is fairies are given to lonely abandoned kids so they can find happiness. I haven’t seen the new show, but from what I hear and seen, the show is sticking to that main idea.
Hazel really fits the lonely kids because her brother left to college and she wanted to fit in with the new neighborhood. Also, her parents are pretty supportive too, and they aren't as useless and obnoxious as Timmy's parents, which is a nice change of pace.
To be fair, the source material was very unfaithful to itself too.
Like, every other episode they ignored Da Rules. Hell, even the "Fairies go to unhappy kids" is not respected, cuz we've had plenty of examples of kids that don't have fairies being worse off than Timmy (Chester and Tootie), and kids better off than Timmy having Fairies. (Remy and Chloe)
@@hiccupasteriskjay already made a video on who's worthy of fairy godparents
Doing the equivalent of "I'm not racist, _but..."_ is the quickest way to lose credibility.
AlphaJay doesn't need people like you validating him. Quit hating and selling out your own race.
From the creators of "nostalgia good, woke bad!" comes "all original black characters are bad solely for being black!"
Uh, that's not what he meant: it's more like "race doesn't matter until a white character is turned black", which i kind of agree with, because racebending is often (not always) made for representation, which IS about race.
The problem is that this idiot seems to think that Hazel is a replacement for Timmy instead of a successor, which is why his argument is shit. If anything, it sounds more like "a black legacy character to a white character is bad solely for being black". Like those people who thought Miles Morales was the Ultimate version of Peter Parker instead of a different character and hated him for that.
Honestly from what I've seen, the people who go "Woke Bad", talk shit about stuff that has Nostalgia in it too, calling it NostalgiaBait or whatever I don't think they actually enjoy anything.
@@fenrirsrage4609 They're just contrarians for the sake of being contrarian. Like they derive joy from misery, which in turn just makes them more miserable and they feel the need to chase that nonexistent feeling of joy only to find more misery. You can't help these types of people.
@@inplane9970 no, being a contrarian isn't bad on its own and could lead you to understanding a piece of media more than other people. Like if try to understand why certain writing choices were made in media where the writing is considered bad, maybe you will find that most people misunderstood the work. It happens.
@@channel45853 Not bad on its own, but when you do it for the sake of arguing then there's a problem. The term you're looking for is Critical Thinking, which plays Contrarian for the sake of getting more viewpoints. Not for the sake of emotions and petty dislikes.
💀watch when people find out Marceline from adventure time is black because her mother in canonly black and Marcy had gray skin because she's a vampire
They were already upset when Fiona and Cake came out, talking about Marsh Lee isn't black.
Marsh Lee's Mom was also black which makes me really think and wonder about whether or not Marceline's Dad was black.
@@tjwhtever-j3n hes a demon so….demon race
who wanna bet they didn’t even watch adventure time lmaooo they just spew random bs
@@spunchflopbadpants 95% chance they didn't watch it, and for the ones who did want it and still think the same thing are rather ignorant and stubborn
@@tjwhtever-j3n marcy's father is a vampire I havent seen him before he wasnt a vampire so im not sure
"Flashy artsyle" WHY IS THAT A BAD THING??? And the style is faithful! The show is VERY faithful!!! AUGHGHH
Its also incredibly funny when people call April O'neil a raceswap because in her originally appearances in the comics she was a black woman
The fact these people are simultaneously racist AND willfully stupid. Like pick a struggle 😭
I laughed a bit at the coincidence when I saw your comment and then your profile picture, given that is another franchise that swapped character ethnicities twice. Although I'd heard that April just was ambiguously drawn in the original comics, but I also never got into the comics, so no horse in that race.
@@georgeandrews1394 it's so odd how many characters are ambiguously black or black coded but never allowed to be black
Blasian* cuz she was based on one of the creators ' girlfriends.
On a related note to George's comment, it's funny how Voltron never comes up in these convos just because "she's hawt"
If you go through their social medias, a lot of the raceswapping complainers have lewd Voltron art liked or even RT'd
Apparently after reaching a certain height women stop being judged on race and it activates something in their lizard brain to "request they be stepped on" 😆
*THE SOLUTION IS CLEAR, ALL FUTURE RACE SWAPS MUST BE TO TALL NUBIAN AMAZONS* 😎
(if the original commenter changes their pfp it was Shiro from Voltron)
As a black man who’s researched as far as he could, The Fairly OddParents: A New Wish is literally the only GOOD black kids show now.
The really sad part is that there’s barely any good black kids shows running right now. I’m sure there’s some I haven’t heard of. But then you look at shows from the big three networks. Young Dylan sucks, That Girl Lay Lay sucks, even The Proud Family sucks now!
All three networks have been sabotaging practically every show that isn’t a spin-off, sequel series or reboot for like the past 5 years now. One of the victims unfortunately includes Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. And who knows if that show will get a third season.
Raven’s Home, Craig of the Creek and the latter show’s spin-off, Jessica’s Big Little World are all over now. Iyanu: Child of Wonder which we’ve waited for almost two years was just announced to be delayed to 2025!
The best we can hope for is that A New Wish stays consistent with their quality moving forward and will get renewed eventually. If it means making the show the most watched on Netflix, so be it. A modern Fairly OddParents show. Who’d have thunk?
Do yourself a favor and check out moon girl and devil dinosaur
@@rahmouchatanko I have watched it AND all the shorts. They AND A New Wish deserve another season
@@rahmouchatanko They did. You just didn't read.
What about Moon Girl?
It’s not that all three networks have been sabotaging original shows, it’s that Streaming Services had been killing original shows on cable, prime time, syndication, on demand, basic TV for the past 3 years.
Its a good thing this year gave us the FOP sequel series that’s on the air. Because it’s probably a step in the right direction for cable.
"Fans": "Stop race-swapping older characters! Just make a new character!"
Show: *makes a new non-white character*
"Fans": "Why is she black?!"
15:57 In the Teen Titans show, one of the episodes basically covered racism. Starfire telling Cyborg the kind of names she gets called and such over her race. Her asking if Cyborg knows what she talking about.
Him saying he does since he's parts robot, but we know what he actually meant given the theme and context of what Starfire was going through
To be fair, in that scene Victor may be legitimately be thinking about ableism rather than racism given how much of the series he spends worrying about how his cybernetics divorce him from other humans and how people might see him as a freak.
I normally Ignore these woke comments and Hazel proven to be her own best stand alone character she could be!
Are these woke comments? They seem to be on the opposite end (anti-woke if you will) if you ask me.
@hiddenflare6169 Maybe they're talking about the comments people make saying, "The Fairly Oddparents has gone woke!" -just because Hazel is black?
It's more like anti-woke comments that complains about Hazel. I can't imagine how these comments doesn't age well when the New Wish finally succeed, which defeats the purpose of the "Go woke, get broke" mantra.
You should probably add quotations around "woke" like I did just now to clarify that you're referring to the people who unironically use that word.
people HAVE to stop hating things just because they're new/recent
Easy way to make money on outrage content farming though
Now _this_ I agree with about a much wider range of things.
Give stuff a chance ! Otherwise it won't be any fun
“Cosmo, Wanda, I wish I was a Black Girl!!”
This is pretty dang stupid and, as I said on Cartoonshi’s vid, Hazel deserves a chance to be her own character and I do not know anything she could have in common in Timmy that other kids could have… Including having Cosmo and Wanda as FairyOdd Parents, as plenty of other kids have had them as their fairies.
I do think there is a discussion for race swapping and saying when it’s questionable when a character race is changed and why, as when Disney does it for Live action movies it does feel like it’s not done for actors talent but because the actors aren’t the original race (it is questionable when this is done half the time) vs when it’s done because the actor loves the character and plays them well…. These points don’t even matter here because Hazel is NOT a race/gender swapped Timmy! This is not a topic that fits with A New Wish.
I'm assuming you're talking about the Little Mermaid, which the voice was the most important part of the series, and Halle Bailey won her audition through her own talents. I don't see how that's impossible to believe.
And as far as Snow White is concerned, the story has had so many variations so I'm not sure why it's such a big deal to begin with. Pale skin is just pale skin, and there are plenty of people who are not Caucasian and have pale as hell skin.
If there's a conversation to be had, it must really be done carefully.
To be fair, Timmy Turner would absolutely wish to be black so he could say the N word.
@@tygerchickchibiIn my opinion the race swapping Disney and many other studios do is a low effort attempt at representation. Instead of creating new original characters that can stand on their own and not be compared to a more popular white version that more people recognize they would rather change the characters skin tone when it adds nothing of substance to the character. It is also a double standard as well. If raceswapping people of color or even casting lighter skinned people to play darker skinned people of the same race is considered racist then I do not think it should be done in vice versa as well.
Besides If Disney really wanted to make a live action remake and have African American representation they could’ve remade Princess & The Frog. Although I honestly wish they would just stop with the remakes all together.
@@PeterGriffin11 I somewhat agree with you but saying all that while having a raceswapped Peter as a pfp is genuinely crazy
Let me guess, he just hates it because it’s new and has a black main character.
@@geardog24 YEP
I guess
You’ve seen this before haven’t you?!
Worse a BLACK GIRL! These type of people are all alike
I've literally never seen a bigger self report of being racist
There is a legitimate discussion to be had about race swapping, but the Fairly OddParents reboot/sequel show is the WORST possible example to use for that argument! I know I’m just echoing what everybody else has already said, but Hazel is NOT a race swap of Timmy! She is an original character, which I, and others like and prefer to race swaps. But this guy STILL complains? It’s ridiculous. It makes his position feel less like a genuine criticism of culture war nonsense and more like cope to mask actual racism. If I didn’t know any better, I’d say he was being contrarian on purpose and actively TRYING to piss people off. But the fact that he doubled down in the comments section of his TH-cam and Twitter says that this most likely isn’t a troll move.
Yeah, there is a problem with race swapping is how it just uses ethnicity as a pallet swap. Like with My Adventures with Superman's Korean Lois, she at least has elements tying to her heritage, which helps her pass on an alternate take on Lois Lane. With Black Barbara Gordon....... it feels like there was meant to be something there since this is the 40s and....... yeah, I would pay to see Batman clobber racists, and the 40s would be a great time period to explore racism, since most people don't really know much about the Jim Crow Era aside from what gets crammed into the limited class topics on the Civil Rights Movement.
Black Ariel...... given the Original Little Mermaid didn't even have a name, she could have just been like Hazel, her own little mermaid with her own traits. Someone separated from the animated movie and allowed to stand on her own. But alas, Disney decided to race swap Ariel, even though they should be more than well aware how much of a hot topic issue it is, and when you look at how Disney and the Media weaponized Live Action Ariel's race...... it makes you feel like Halley's race was nothing more than a shield for Disney to use to protect themselves from inevitable criticism..... only for the movie to bomb anyway because EVERYBODY thought it was an inferior remake.
He is probably just mad poc just get time to shine
the only problem i have with this show ver is that i think poof should have been the mc's fairy wanda/cosmo could have stayed with timmy and his kids (maybe also don't like mc's hair idk)
@shadow4040 what's wrong with her hair?
I l8ke her hair, my hair used to be just like that, my baby sister's hair is like that rn
Dude is trying it hide his racism but doing a VERY bad job at it
Static isn’t a black character
STATIC?!
The fact that the entire community is ganging up on this guy…..is one of the best things I’ve seen in a fandom
The reason “don’t race swap, make original characters” pivots to “this original character is woke and dumb” is because the point isn’t the character, they just don’t want POC in their media. Same with any other representation of marginalized groups. It’s their way of laundering racist and otherwise bigoted ideas into normal conversation.
I want POC in media but I am also not gonna defend race swapping of existing characters. If the character is a title, like Captain America and a black guy takes over the title, that's great. If they ust suddenly decide Steve Rogers is black and always has been, that's not great, that's lazy. Hazel is how you doit perfectly. April O'Neil is not.
I can see race swapping still being overall negative because of how lazy it tends to be. Instead of writing meaningful representation, they'll just insert a visible minority in and call it a day. The worst is when they then use that as a shield to deflect criticism. Especially if the creator of the piece of media isn't part of that minority group, but the people doing the criticism are. I see it a lot with LGBT "representation" where cis/het writers will call LGBT people homophobic for not liking the background lesbians, but refuse to include LGBT major characters. Or the Disney live action remakes that are lazy soulless cashgrabs but if they make the protagonist black, they can call you racist for not liking the movie, or prefering the animated version. It kind of really shows when it's corporate and the people making it don't care. When the representation is being written by people from these groups, or genuine allies, people who legitimately care, you can feel it. You can feel that it's an actual character with merit. Like Miles Morales, for example.
Geeks + Gamers does the exact same thing with the LGBT community. He _claims_ that he supports them and that he’s okay if they’re “done right,” but still complains when they get involved in media and there ended up being proof of him being homophobic, etc., anyways.
@@troin3925 I cant stand when a series queerbaits or tries to remain ambiguous to avoid upsetting people. Go all in. If people get upset, let them get upset. Their hateful ranting makes it easier to know who to avoid.
@@functionatthejunction It's so incredibly frustrating when they make it a big marketing point too and keep patting themselves on the back like they did something revolutionary. I think it would actually bother me so much less when there was background lesbians or a one-off comment about a character being gay that could easily be interpreted differently or edited out for international releases if they weren't so smug about it and just didn't mention it at all. Then it would come off as "oh cool neat detail a same sex couple is visible in the background in this scene" instead of weeks of news articles going FIRST GAY MOMENT IN STAR WARS and it's two frames of nameless characters in the background that you will never see if they're not actively pointed out to you.
Idiots: They turned Timmy black in the reboot!
Everyone Else: It is a sequel and that isn't Timmy.
True
Also, I wish people would stop getting upset about Aprils race because even in the original comics in the BEGINNING of TMNT she was apparently MIXED. Technically, April can be any race. April has been black, and she's been white, like Catwoman (who has been white, black, and Latino :>). There is nothing wrong with a character being ANY race. But people always seem to complain the LOUDEST when a character is now black. My favorite character in the Batman universe is now Chinese! And she's still awesome! And in some ways she's better because they gave her more character XD Hell, commissioner Gordon has gone through several race changes. AQUA MAN is flipping Hawaiian now, for god’s sake. All that matters is that the character is portrayed properly and well! Stop looking for something to be mad about. It's boring and low-key childish atp.
Well said
PREACH!
Ngl, the anti-woke crowd is mad annoying.
Honestly, people who not only complain about anti-woke people but also defend shitty reboots are also annoying.
@@SaberSin-mu4kt Ok list the reasons the show is bad.
@@SaberSin-mu4ktDid op hit a nerve?
@@SaberSin-mu4kt says the person that doesn't know what a reboot is.
Both crowds are bad, both crowds are pushing an agenda without considering the properness of what should be the topic at hand.
He's probably on that "2D is the superior artform" timing.
I have my problems with race swapping when its used as a selling point, especially when the actual character isn't changed in any significant way, but it gets really difficult to healthily discuss topics like that when you have people using it as opportunities to be racist or slander creators.
Rule of thumb - if they race-swap _just_ to earn some nonexistent brownie points (lol, brown), then it's probably not worth race-swaping at all.
@@greenstarlover1 I doubt its for brownie points as a lot of people suggest, but it wouldn't be the first time companies have intentionally started drama for free marketting.
@mozzy2968 It is for brownie points though (most of the time) there is a line between optimism and purposeful ignorance
0:14 shes not timmy
@@Lumberjack_king first they call her an undertale character, now they’re calling her a raced swapped Timmy 🙄
@@PurpleGuy661 I mean at least the first one was funny and they share the same shirt
@@Lumberjack_king yea quite similar, people started calling her frisk right after the first few episodes came out.
And I’ve been noticing that Fairly Oddparents has been rly lucky this year, compared to other stuff that left not much of a good taste in everyone's mouths
Genuinely this entire "black woman woke Timmy Turner!!" argument can be ended with just that.
She's literally not Timmy. Never once stated to be Timmy. People are getting mad that people are doing the "if you want diversity make your own characters!1!1!1!1" thing that they all tried to argue about every single time a character is changed.
What the f-ck changed in their one little braincell that made them backtrack on what was the entire basis of their argument. 😭
@@b3nt079 yea and besides, it’s like he’s not even focusing on one thing: *the name of the characters*
Honestly, that video embodies why i cannot take seriously people that say stuff like "Don't change the race of that character! Create your own characters!" but when people actually create this new characters they hate them because "But not like that! It should be a different way that i won't specify but you should discover by yourself!!". Like, dude at that point just say that you don't like to see black people or any racialized person in a main role, or in any role.
Well said
Bro seriously made a fool out of himself.
A.s.k Bro is stuck in the edgy era of TH-cam 💀
Agreed
Bub still hasn't gotten out of the anti-SJW phase despite the trend withered out in the same time as the trend of "SJW gets owned" compilations died. No wonder why nobody takes the anti-woke crowd seriously anymore.
Bub hasn't gotten out of the anti-SJW phase since mid-late 2010s, yet still beats the dead horse.
@@johnxmannydoes he have a lot of drama?
I love how the worst TH-cam video on the cartoon was made by a TH-camr I used to watch in like 2020😭
Bro feel off so hard man idk why bro did this for man
@@schemar17 He went straight through the "TH-cam critic with a cardboard cutout as a sorry excuse for animations" into the "Alt-right nutbag" pipeline.
@@inplane9970 He probably already was in that pipeline years ago.
@@ExtremeWreck Not wrong. These types usually show themselves out pretty early on. Sometimes they recognize it and apologize for their immature behaviour, but more often than not they end up like this and go "We live in a society 🤬."
@@inplane9970 “immature behavior” simply not liking a reboot. I’ve seen your comments on here if u wanna talk about “immature behavior”
They literally make it clear from the VERY FIRST EPISODE that Timmy was their last god kid and Hazel is a new character
13:55 bro really just said "I have black characters I like" with the same cadince as saying "I do have black friends"
He was so racist to Hazel, I don't even watch him but put the fries in the bag bro🍟😭
He wasn't racist at all, and you cannot be racist to a cartoon character. I, on the other hand, am actually racist. I can show you what real racism looks like, if you'd like.
@@WaxMeber you dont need to ask. say the slur Wax
@@microplasticblood HELP😭🤣
@@WaxMeberyou say this and yet in real life you can’t even work up the nerve to say this to a black man
@@WaxMeber LMAO BRO ADMITTED
Disrespect the source material... by what? Making a story set in the Fairly Oddparents following a completely different character? Just because she's black??? She's an original character, ffs
TBH I think A New Wish respects the original FOP more than the original FOP respected itself
It's just a show 😂 geez yahll getting rolled up over what a TH-camr says
It's laughable how the New Wish was claimed to disrespect the original series' legacy when Nickelodeon did the series dirty by leaving said series to die from a seasonal rot, yet making an another an embarrassing attempt to bring it back (I'm looking at you, Fairy Odder). And letting Hartman do the work for the writing isn't going to help either.
@@terrifier-7 and you're getting roiled up about a TH-cam comment on one of those videos. 🤷♂️
I'm not even very far into the video, and I'm already annoyed at him claiming TImmy Turner was race-swapped, despite the character in the new show being a completely different character.
That's like reading a Spider-Man comic about Miles Morales and complaining that they race-swapped Peter Parker.
as dumb as his take on race-swapping characters are i genuinely dislike his other unnecessarily bad takes such as:
1.He thinks that every cartoon reboot during 2010s and onwards is ridiculous when clearly there are some pretty good reboots out there such as Rise of the TMNT and Ducktales (plus others i might've missed)
2.he thinks Stephen Hillenburg would be disgusted by the existence of Spongebob spin-offs when really HE WAS NOT against the idea and was completely aware of it and gave it a pass.
3.saying that Cartoons don't need an overly colorful and bright art-style...yeah im not going to bother explain that, you already know how that silly that sounds
4.saying that Butch Hartman would've single-handedly ''save/fix the show'' is head-scratching given that Butch hasn't made a decent project/show for the past 10 years or so and i doubt that his involvement would do any favors (he would've ruined it...AGAIN)
5.he thinks Rise of the tmnt movie was bad (boo)
6.the whole argument of Hazel being a race-swapped version of TImmy is like saying MIles Morales is a race-swapped version of Peter Parker
having said all that, im not going to harass him 24/7 on some bad internet program but i will say this one thing...if you ever really REALLY need to talk and make a well-rounded analysis and critique on a show then talk about THE SHOW ITSELF and NOT about the character that you have no right to trash on because its a new character and not the OG one because of the race-swap (and watch the show for the second time idk)
I think one of the worst parts about his video is he had the potential to talk about something actually important that being race swapping characters is a lazy way to create representation because in reality these companies don't care about representing people and they show that by race swapping characters.
if they really wanted proper representation, they would create new characters for those groups of people like what Hazel is but given his points, I don't think he cares about representation because that's not really what his argument is about. If your only point is the new character is a minority and that is woke and woke is bad then you don't really have an argument.
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Don’t forget his completely original and unique take on Teen Titans Go! that hasn’t been stated by anyone else.
You forgot 7. Btuch heavily endorsed the show and works on it as a producer.
What upsets just as much as his outright racism is how poorly research this video is. He didn't do any research and it shows. I can't wait for the "apology video".
@@spaceaxolotl6196 And to be honest April has been black before so it is odd to bring that up. Raceswaps aren't that new and feels the outright is very selective on them.
What really gets my goat here is that one of the other examples of """raceswapping""" given is April O'Neil, who was ORIGINALLY BLACK AND A MIXED RACE CHARACTER. It genuinely astounds me how many people love to use her as an example when they haven't even done the bare minimum research into her character (and by that I mean READ THE SOURCE MATERIAL)
@@mmangaboi_5355instead of interracial do you mean mixed?
@@limejarrito shit, yeah you're right, thanks for the correction
It was clear that A S.K Air had no idea what he was talking about when he said Hazel was a race swapped Timmy whe they are 2 separate characters completely. Plus A New Wish is a sequel not a Reboot.
@@JasLamArr91 Ngl, you calling it Tommy made me chuckle
@@DanteKrystal LoL I was using my iPhone. I didn't even notice!
Man, you didn't have to edit it.
Now I'm sad.
Even if she was a race swapped Timmy it shouldn’t matter unless your racist or it was brought up as something important also this show could easily explain a race swap just being that they wished to be a different race.
@@King-n00bi3 that's fucked up but then again it's in character
that South Park special has done WAY more damage to media literacy than I think Matt and Trey intended.
It's really ironic because a big part of that special was making fun of the "woke bad" crowd. But because they have no media literacy, they didn't realize they were being made fun of, and called just as lazy as the people they complain about. They fully thought that special was on their side and "destroying the woke". It would be hilarious if it wasn't so depressing.
Elaborate? I don't watch south park.
@greenstarlover1 There was a special in which Cartman (the antagonist of the series who is extremely racist/sexist/anything bad you can think of) switches reality with a version of himself from an alternate reality comprised entirely of diverse women. So he is in that universe, and the black woman version of him ends up in the normal South Park universe. Throughout the episode, the show calls out the laziness of pandering without meaningful representation, but also simultaneously calls out the equal laziness of "anti-woke" people using anger and bigotry to take advantage of others. It also has a moment where Cartman has a conversation with Kathleen Kennedy, at which point both characters realize that they are in a vicious cycle. That "woke" exists only because it is a direct reaction to people being bigoted. And then "anti-woke" people getting so offended about it only means that pushing for diversity is more important.
For some reason, a lot of people watching the episode completely missed the ENTIRE MAIN POINT of it and thought it was just bashing "woke media" and diversity and inclusion.
@@IceFireofVoid interesting. Thanks!
"Unfaithful to the source material" its not a reboot, remake, or adaptation, its a sequel
"Dont touch our favorite characters by turning them black or changing genders, make your own!"
*makes entirely original character, set at a different time in the same universe, thereby keeping them untouched*
"Noooo, we didnt want this!"
Like, of ALL the reboots to complain about, he had to choose the one that reedem one the series with the worst fall offs, there is obvious a specific "bias" in his views
I still can not believe he used Uncle Ruckus in his "I'm not racist I have black friends" bit. Like you can't make that up.
Timmy and Hazel aren’t even the same kid. How is that race swapping 😭?
I really can't stand when certain people won't shut up about race/gender swapping characters because it always just shallow. For me, race/gender swapping a character is totally fine as long as the character's race/gender isn't important to the character. That stuff he said about Static is so stupid because being black IS important to his character! With characters like April from TMNT, her being black really doesn't change anything because in all the iterations I've seen of her, her being white never really effected the story at all. And Velma, well there are a lot of things wrong with that version of her character but her being Indian is not one of them. Her character could be white like she is in all other iterations of the franchise, and she'd still be a bad character because of how she's written.
as i understand it, the issue isn't race swapping in itself, but the overt hypocrisy that comes with doing it one way, and then actively trying to cancel people who do it the other way. namely on twitter, not with normal people, and twitter is absolutely awful. artists have been harrassed for drawing characters a little to light, but other artists race swap and it's fine.
not saying i agree with them, just pointing out the actual problem people have with it.
@@nunote2362if you have to ask yourself “why is this okay but this isn’t” when it comes to raceswapping, then you literally do not need to speak on a topic you clearly have no understanding of
@@wompwompcryabttit that's very convenient, no actual point just "if you don't already agree with it, then you shouldn't say anything about it". that's definitely not going to breed resentment from anyone who may be open to understanding it. if everyone treated things like that, the world would be an even more terrible place than it is.
if you don't have anything constructive to add to the conversation, then you literally do not need to speak, as you clearly have no point.
@@nunote2362 Of course I didn’t provide a point, because the video you quite literally clicked on already provided it 💀 But if I have to reiterate the point, then I will.
There’s a lot of nuance in the conversation around race-swapping in media (that you clearly lack and do not get), which is why it's not hypocritical when characters who were originally white are reimagined as people of color, but it is more problematic when the reverse happens.
*Historical Underrepresentation and Exclusion*: Historically, Hollywood and other media industries have largely excluded PoC from significant roles, leading to a massive underrepresentation of non-white characters. This exclusion was reinforced by policies like the **Hays Code**, which RESTRICTED the depiction of PoC in many roles, often relegating them to stereotypical or minor characters. Because of this, PoC have had far fewer opportunities to see themselves represented in meaningful and diverse ways.
Cultural Dominance and Representation: White characters have dominated media for decades, leaving PoC with limited representation. When PoC are cast in roles that were originally white, it’s an attempt to correct this imbalance and provide more inclusive representation. This is especially important because PoC still face significant barriers in being cast for leading roles that aren’t tied to racial stereotypes.
Overrepresentation of White Characters: White people have been overrepresented in media for so long that race-swapping white characters to PoC is a way to address the lack of diversity. On the other hand, race-swapping a PoC character to white further exacerbates the problem of underrepresentation, erasing the little representation that exists for PoC.
In essence, while race-swapping white characters to PoC is an effort to increase diversity and representation, race-swapping in the opposite direction reinforces the same exclusionary practices that have marginalized PoC in media for so long.
i remember when soul eater came out and no one got mad that crona was gender swapped in the anime version for no reason. in the manga the character is male but in the anime the character is female but the gender as you said wasnt important.
Just watched it...... Holy Christ he Fumbled HARD, ive never seen a comment section call someones B.S THIS Hard (It’s a great site to see)💀💀💀
The problem isn't the show, it's the complaints against it.
Velma:
@@HashiNuke THE show
@@HashiNuke not to defend that absolute pile of trash
Its also usually the writing as well, even if it's viewed as a standalone series rather than the continuation (depending on people's views)
Show is shit
You didn't mention my little pony friendship is magic in the beginning part when you listing reboots people liked.
Generation 4 of MLP was a reboot and a massively successful one at that.
all i heard in his video is "blah blah blah i dont like change"
Him calling Hazel a raceswap Timmy turner was one thing I disliked 💀
But then I heard this guy said *I don’t see Cyberbog as black* and I’m like THE FUCK DID YOU SAY 💀💀
No faith for the source material??? This show REDEEMS the source material!!
“Why is Timmy black?”
No.
No
Nuh uh... Nada
It was so bad that even Johnny2Cellos commented on how bad the video was! No joke!
Jay. I’ve been watching you probably quite literally since 2017, I can’t remember when. But I need you to know that I am SO SO glad that you made this video. You could’ve gone the easy route and just said “you’re racist” but instead you chose good faith again and again and again.
You are one of the few TH-camrs I always enjoy seeing on my timeline and tuning into, even if I don’t comment, because of that good will bone in you. You’re awesome!
what’s super ironic is that he’s using april o’neil as an example of race swapping to justify his argument when in reality she was originally a biracial woman (half black/half irish). in the comics where she first appeared she was poc but then the 80’s show made her a red haired white woman. the new tmnt shows just switch her back to her original ethnicity
so he’s using a character that hasn’t been race swapped, as an example of characters who have been raced swapped
So basically he dislikes the show because it's a black main character. Sounds bad in that wording.
I think the concept of raceswapping was preety well utulized until 2016. Since until that point, they just cast charismatic actors/actresses for the roles they beign given. But after 2016 everything went downhill. Companies now using the concept for pandering or escape from critizms. Similar to how concept of Multiverse now just beign used as nostalgia bait.
The Little Mermaid is a great example of this. The story is %95 copy-paste from the org animated movie. They just changed the skin tone of few characters here and there. Like please think about it. Everytime we talk about the movie, everyone thinks the raceswapping. Not the story, awfull cgı or how it beign failed at improving the source materiall in a meaningfull way.
It's not a remake or a reboot.It's a sequel it happens after canonically
All I did was leave a comment saying he had a bad take and he should own up to it and I got blocked from his channel almost instantly. 😔
0:53 15 seconds in and you can tell he’s a liar who didn’t even watch the show and got all his info from some randos on Twitter who also didn’t watch the show
Yeah I agree.
"Flashy artstyle"... isn't that something shows WANT to have in order to stand out from the other animated shows on the market?
Also, this guy's takes are so braindead that he's making Lily Orchard seem like a veteran literary scholar
I watched static Shock every day after school on sbt as a kid (yes I'm Brazilian)
And seeing this dude saying that he didn't saw Virgil (along with blade and cyborg) as black is just disrespectful and dumb
I do think the morals and ethics of race swapping in general are a topic that can be debated(both the people for it and against it tend to make their own good points), but going out of your way to complain about a show you haven't even seen or researched is just idiotic.
Bruh, even Mr Enter, know for having wild AF takes at times, likes New Wish.
Imagine how he'd feel if Static got a sequel closer to it source material, where Richie is gay.
The level of media illiteracy of that guy is worrying
0:15 technically they're fixing a race swap with April because she was black in the comics if I'm remembering correctly I could be wrong
@@chrisbetancourt7111 she was based of a mixed woman that one of the creator was dating. she was also drawn with very black type hair. So yeah
Isn't TMNT different universes?
@@bluebaron6858 yes. Its similar to marvel and dc. I don’t know how this is relevant to the conversation?
I think the largest part is that the race of the character doesn't matter, if a character is good, they're good, if they happen to be black, then cool glad there's a character I enjoy, and can relate to. If a character is bad, that sucks, if they happen to be black, then darn wish we had a better character. I feel this "woke" label is just people being adverse to change, existing in a society that has evolved for the better, to be more inclusive, and they're just not comfortable with that, but instead of their refusal to change/accept how things are, it's everybody else.
Maybe its an American thing but some groups truly think they're the only ones that exist and everybody only watches them. Do they realize in Africa, Africans watch African content?
This!
"Evolved for the better" riight
Well, personally, I think it's because it comes off as unnecessary at times, like with The Little Mermaid. Some people thought that Ariel was exactly the same except black, that the writers didn't try to work off of the character in the original film. I mean, I understand, if they're going to continue making these remakes then they might as well. Also, for people that might think I don't like The New Wish, I think it's fine: I like the animation, the new storylines seem interesting, and Hazel is her own character separate from Timmy. Overall, it seems ok.
@@MYSTERIOUS-r9n Ever watch Brandys' Cinderella of 1997?
the thing i hate most about the race comment is that people CONSTANTLY tell us when a character is race swapped just to “make a new character” and when this is done they will complain. this only furthers my thought that they don’t care if we swap a character or not they just only see white as “normal” and the base, so anything that isn’t that can’t be just because people WANTED to create a better reflection of other people in country and world but only for diversity brownie points. anything that is diverse can not be diverse just for the sake of it but there is always an ulterior motive and such. you simply just do not want to see poc on your screen, especially as protagonist. cyborg and especially static shocks blackness has always been integral to their character. and to not see that is to be purposely blind
>Fairly Odder sucking so much Paramount has been actively trying to erase it from existence
>A New Wish being actively praise as a genuinely good new view to the FOP core concept
>A.S.K Air: Clearly is BLACKWASHING what's ruining -my childhood- FOP
This alone speaks volumes about that person...
I personally hate raceswaps/genderswaps a lot, cuz I feel like they're lazy, creatively bankrupt, are typically caricatures, and give "art fixer energy" a lot of the time, him comparing Hazel with that stuff is just... wrong.
She's an original character, a real charming one too, so the point really falls flat when you include an original character with that stuff!
Look I hate race swaps as much as the next guy buuuuuuut this isn’t a example of a race swap it’s just a new character
14:15 I do understand the importance of that episode being about judging people by their race, but people can relate to episode like this and not be black. As a black man who's grown up with dealing with ignorance of different people. That episode can hit home for multiple people of different race and/or backgrounds. That's why static shock is so popular like spiderman.
@@blueclube30000 you do understand that the reason the racist said those things is cause static is black right? Just cause other people can related doesn’t disprove the point. The point is saying “I can’t see static as a black character” is dumb because with in the context of that episode he is discriminated because he is black.
Would you watch a show where a girl has period cramps and say “well guys have cramps to so I don’t really see how this show is about womenhood” if you would then I think you watch media with your eyes and ears closed :(
Calling Hazel, a raceswap of Timmy, is the most stupidest statement any creature has ever made in the history of anything.
First time watching A.S.K Air was during the time where he was just a fun Ben 10 TH-camr back during the covid era. Crazy how fast he fall from grace in just one video