Buffy the Vampire Slayer Talk || s3e19 "Choices"
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Can we talk about how Oz calmly walks toward the cauldron, violently hurls it toward the wall, and then calmly turns back to the group and is like "Are we done arguing? We're going to save my girlfriend now, right?" Cause that right there is an awesome Oz moment.
Always been a personal favorite.
"Beware the wrath of a quiet man."
always hated that scene.
@@unrelatedcoma May I ask why you dislike it?
@@menachemsalomon to quote Alley - "its SO extra..."
The faith-mayor relationship is a shadow version of Buffy-giles. Giles gives Buffy freedom to make choices, while the mayor treats Faith more like a child. One of the things that willow cues into here is that being like Buffy requires the ability to make adult choices and accept consequences, and Giles supports Buffy’s autonomy that way, while the mayor allows faith to place the blame for her circumstances on others. It’s an interesting contrast
Of course since it's pretty obvious that Faith never had a real childhood, you can see why she'd be drawn to that.
I never noticed that but now I can't unsee it. Thank yew.
Do you watch Passion of the Nerd channel? It is highly recommended. It has great analysis of the episodes.
Excellent analysis. Thank you for sharing. It seems so obvious now.
So true
"Why couldn't you be dealing drugs like normal people?"
Best lines ever 😂
Snyder 😎🤘🏻
I think Snyder believed he knew more than he did. He knows monsters and hellmouths exist, but that's not the same as knowing anything about them. He's a lackey. Snyder was made principal by the mayor, because he would do what he's told (impede Buffy/ maintain status quo) but he's not smart enough to question why.
This episode was a moment where I think he realized he didn't know shit about fuck-all, and was in WAAAAAY over his head.
Yeah, basically he knows enough to cover up vampires as gang members on PCP.
Willow finally unleashing that confidence she’s been building for nearly all three seasons is a beautiful thing.
The bookworm fights with pencils.
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The pencil is mightier than the stake.
I sense a connection when she says "Bo hoo!". This is Ghost Willow from the end of Halloween, but in the flesh.
"Couples that slay together, stay together."
Part of what makes the Mayor such a great villain is that he does have real human feelings, sick and twisted as they may be.
Alley: "If Angel has a moment of true happiness again, he's fucked"
Me: Interesting choice of words xD
So...was that a contraction for "he is" or "he has"?
@@Leafsdude umm for he is?? At least that's what I heard 😅
Edit: since when is "he's" a contraction for the past tense?
"he's done that"... Pretty common for it to be either
@@carolinepena5633 It was supposed to be a joke... "He is fucked" verses "he has fucked". ;)
But yes, as shkacatou points out, "he's" can definitely be past tense.
😂😂👏👏🤣
I love the mayor as a villain. He is this weird blending of a totally proper man (maybe a bit OCD on the cleanliness side) who has totally owned the idea that you take what you want to rise to the top and that it's OK to step on some people to get there. That combination takes him to some very unusual but very hillarious comedic moments! You can say he's for real or that he's fake, but he certainly feels real. Only time will tell!
The Mayor is the best villain so far in my opinion
The mayor is the favorite villain of many fans. I like him okay, except that he rarely gets violent. To me it's weird in action shows when the main villain doesn't display fighting skill. How would he have reacted it if someone tried to depose him?
@@Nepthu its better to be smart enough to never get into that situation than to not see it coming and have to fight your way out of it.
@@Nepthu who is to say he hasn't been in that situation in the past ? He is a wizard. You make sure you survive , lurk , build up power and resources , and burn them down so bad that no one tries again.
Love the defense of Cordelia's honor! Even if she's fully capable of doing it herself 😉 By the way, that Mission Impossible edit made me actually laugh out loud!
Buffy and Angel have twice received advice from strange sources... Spike and his "You'll never be friends" and now the mayor and his, "Because you don't age, you two have nothing but a sad future."
Or basically, he was saying to Angel, if you truly love her, you have to let her go.
I thought both Spike and the Mayor's advice were inciteful because you can tell the writers have thought about this. The writers understand the characters and the dynamics between them.
Joss really likes giving villains the most truthful/honest lines, or ones that are particularly on-message for the season.
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As a certain character says much later on, "I told the truth all the time when I was evil'"
Yes I LOVED Spikes speech
You can tell how much Buffy's other boyfriend didn't matter from the fact that alley forgot his name
Alley, Christophe Beck went from Buffy to the MCU, in case you didn't know.
lol. buffy doens't sound like the MCU, the MCU sounds like buffy.
He also did the non-song music for the Frozen movies.
@@williamkirkland2222 I always love hearing reactors talk about how something in Buffy sounds like something else when it's usually the case that Buffy originated it. It really tells you something about how special Buffy (the show) is.
@@michaelstanley5575 I totally agree. Millenial confidence really get's up-ended from watching BVS, but in a "good" way. The ability to "predict" outcome for a tv show can get old. Then the desire to find "unpredictable" stories or to expect "more" arise.
so did joss appreantly
Back in Doppelgängland, when Willow stuck that pencil into a tree, I thought "There's a way a vamp's gonna dust!"
I can't honestly understand how she could reach the *heart* from the *back* with a *pencil* though!X-P
Nicamon -- Seven inches is plenty to reach the heart.
@@donsample1002 (Is confused in metrical system)😵❓(Searches)Is it almost 18 cm?Is a pencil _that long?_ I don't think so...🤔
Anyway...even if it is... _through the SPINE?_ 🤨 I don't know,maybe I just don't know human body well enough.Totally possible.🤷♂️
Nicamon -- Standard length for a pencil is 19cm. And you go in beside the spine, and between a couple of ribs.
"Why couldn't you be dealing drugs like normal people?" - my favorite line of the whole series :D
up there with 'what happened to the still-beating heart of a virgin? no one has any standards anymore'
Faith has potential for redemption, but not any easy path. She can't just switch sides and have everything be okay. Any redemption arc for her would take a long time, and considerable effort on her part to turn her life around. But most importantly, she has to choose it. That's really not where the character is, at this point.
As for Snyder, he knows about the Hellmouth, he knows the Mayor is powerful and dangerous, and he knows that Buffy is an inconvenience to the Mayor. But he doesn't know about the whole Ascension thing, and I'm not certain if he knows about Buffy being the Slayer.
Spoiler. Faiths redemption arc BLEEDS over into the “Angel “ series..
Choices is what the entire series is about. Everything comes down to the decisions the characters make and the repercussions of them.
Couldn't we say that about any episode?
@@Nepthu I think they're referring to "choices" as in the title of the episode, not necessarily just the episode itself
Cordelia working in a clothes shop is huge, her parents are supposed to be rich so why does she need to work.
Willow standing up to Faith is everything, her words cut faith deep which I why she punched willow.
Re: Cordelia, it also ties into why she's upset about her college applications - her family can't afford to send her to those colleges now.
Yeah notice how she told Xander off after he mentions her dads money
Hopefully she has watched the next episode as these themes are all explored then. Why do people insist on explaining plot elements early?
Do you get off on showing how clever you are by spoiling future reactions?
@@zarabada6125 Chill she's ahead on her patreon
Love Oz smashing the spell and Willow choosing to go to college to help Buffy. Both are heroes ❤️
Clearly this isn't a drug deal... it's a bug deal.
Maybe I'm on an island, but I love Faith and The Mayor's relationship. he consistently shoots down any romantic advances she throws his way and treats her with respect, confidence, but also tenderness.
He may be an evil demon seeking to destroy the world, but I do feel like he GENUINELY cares for Faith beyond just having her as an employee. And I think Faith likes having someone who means well for her without any expectation of intimacy.
I like their relationship too (minus the EVILNESS)
i mean ... Dru and Spike are evil and still show affection.
The way I stopped my art to click at Lightening McQueen™️ speed-
ART! :hear eyes:
Wow I feel dumb, until Alley brought it up it never occurred to me that Cordelia being unusually mean at the start of the episode is her taking out the stress of what's going on at home on the group.
She might have had someone to confide in if Xander hadn't ...
@@razycrandomgirl or if Willow hadn’t…
If you haven't seen it already, I think you'd really like and be fascinated by the sitcom The Good Place for all the moral philosophy.
Lol, the guy Buffy dated in school was named Scott Hope and it was early this season rather than last season.
I was looking forward to your reaction to Willow's witch fu with the box forcefield given that you had remarked on her going the 'full Sam Winchester' before. I wish I could see your reaction to Oz destroying the cauldron.
On the other hand, if Willow had grabbed a whole book and been stopped while trying to escape, they would have taken it from her, as opposed to ripping out important pages and keeping them hidden.
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I always think of this as a favorite ep, but it's really more the individual moments: the unexpected moment of truth from the Mayor, Oz and the cauldron, the reveal with Cordy feeling humiliated over her circumstance but fronting bravely...but most of all Willow. Two stand-up-and-cheer moments for her, verbally slapping down Faith and then her killer-smoov handing over the pages.
Also: @7:29 Love me some Lalo Schifrin!
The Cordelia thing... is meaningful because, 'y'know her family is supposed to be rich. If so, why does she need a job to buy a fancy dress?
to teach her responsibility ... lol
@@razycrandomgirl Have you met most wealthy parents, cause wanting to teach their kids responsible would be a huge anomaly. Most of them teach their kids that they can get away with anything using their money.
The parents that teach responsibility are the ones that know their kids can't afford to be irresponsible.
Cordy had a fancy car (by high school standards), an expensive Todd Olden dress and many other expensive things. There is no way Cordy paid for those items on her own.
@@quinnsinclair7028 Her parents weren't wealthy. They were upper middle class , maybe upper class. But her father probably was a self-made man who ran his own business. Or a venture investor. I doubt they were old money.
And I have worked with a good number of high school students in the restaurant industry from those same circumstances. And it was usually because their parents thought that working a job , especially a service job , would be good for them.
"if angel have a monument of true happiness again he is fucked."
its the other way around
-Just because you're evil doesn't mean you're a liar. The Mayor is 100% right in his advice to Buffy and Angel.
-I think Faith and Mayor's relationship is interesting, and this always left me wanting more.
-From what I remember reading, Angel was supposed to die in Becoming 2 and not come back. Around that time the WB became interested in spinning off Angel, and so they decided to bring him back.
-I think Snyder knows a lot, maybe not about Buffy being a Slayer.
-Willow's outfit in this episode is probably my favorite she wears in the series, and it is like NEVER referenced or used in merch or fan art.
'I only have eyes for you' is where they said they were pretty sure david could carry a show.
@@razycrandomgirl Yes, that is when they decided that, and they told him while filming one of the flashback scenes (I think the 1860 one) in Becoming Part 1.
10:00 I always had the perspective that the mayor, despite his evil motives, is still human. He has loved and been loved by others. And, I suppose, he was talking to the only people who might understand that situation. Maybe a couple lines of dialogue and a relationship with a main character isn’t enough to really drive the point home, but it still shows a different side of him.
The editing is IMMACULATE
This episode the way the Mayor lays on truth to Angel is one of my favourite moments.
Re: The music. Buffy had a single composer--Christophe Beck--for all of seasons 3 and 4 (and half of season 2, including all of the Angelus-arc episodes). It's why we have musical themes that persist and grow across the seasons (like the season 2 Buffy-Angel theme "Close Your Eyes" and the "Remembering Jenny" theme). His romantic-orchestral but also fluid and fun approach to composing for the series defined its sound, even after he left as full-time composer. (If you recall, season 1 and the other half of season 2 were much more electronic X-files-ish in their sound.)
He's gone on to become one of Disney's core composers in the years since.
Firstly, that mission impossible sequence... AMAZING!! 😂😂
Buffy and Angel have been back together since episode 10 in Amends. But it can get confusing between them, lol.
Snyder does know about the hellmouth and stuff; but it seems knowing and seeing is a different experience. He also wouldn't likely know about the Mayor being invincible, so that's why he looked shook there.
I ask the important questions.
Why is Giles in a coffee cup?
Tea is soothing, and he wishes to be tense.
I’m surprised you didn’t include when Oz smashed the living fire preparations so they had to trade the box for Willow. When Oz is mad, he’s mad...
Wolf boy say grrrrrrrrrr argh
Faith's knife is a Hibben Jackal, and it's turned up in a couple of Star Trek movies, as Klingon and Romulan blades. I almost bought myself one, when I saw it in a store in San Francisco, but I was flying home the next day and didn't think it would sit well with airport security, or Canadian Customs.
_Sigh!_ I'm so relieved that alley didn't question either the quantity or quality of my realness in this video.
In general, slayers don't have to worry about a "long term" relationship because slayers don't typically last that long. They are inevitably killed and replaced by the next Slayer, usually sooner than later. A Buffy and Angel relationship 50 years from now when Buffy is old and Angel is still the same is almost a moot point because the assumption is that Buffy would never survive that long anyway (and what's more is she knows that!). Angel should be thinking about making Buffy happy now because that is all there is, even while knowing he will be setting himself up for major heartbreak in the probably not-so-distant future. Grim but true.
The mayor would never betray faith. Eos
The next episode "The Prom" has one of my favorite all-time TV scenes.
This is one of my favorite episodes. I think Wesley was correct that the quick solution to free Willow was not what they should do. They really didn't spend time thinking through other approaches. The Mayor's deconstruction of Buffy/Angel was brilliant.
That scene with Willow and the pencil is freakin amazing and I love it. And what follows, what she says... it's amazing.
Willow knowing that she can't escape, might get killed trying and will probably be exchanged for the box, it makes sense that she settles down and tries to learn as much as possible about the Mayor so she'll have knowledge to share.
Also, those are big hardcover books. Not like she could sneak one out with her.
it makes no sense. and then she antagonizes faith ... what's it called when you're protected by the writing? cause that's what this is.
I'm really enjoying your discovery of this series, soon to branch out into "Angel" as well. When you try to guess what's going to happen next, I am glad you can't see my face - my expression would be sure to give MANY spoilers away. You have the most entertaining mix of "that guess was really good" and "she's so completely wrong", with a side of "she's not gonna believe it". Knowing what's going to happen ahead of time, and watching you react to finding out what we already know is delicious fun. You're also delicious fun, so I'll keep coming back for more.
Cordelia is actually my favorite character. Not as a joke. As a person. She is just really great , and her few , minor unlikable traits arise more out of loneliness and a fear of being hurt or abandoned than malice.
I'm on season 4 and The Mayor is definitely my favorite Big Bad so far. He's so funny and a perfect villain.
Underrated episode it is great. Soon the end of this fantastic season :)
I'm excited for her season finale reaction, it's going to be good
You're in for so many surprises. Can't wait to see your future reactions!
I just realized someone watching now when the Mayor say's "03" they won't realize he is saying 1903
Did you notice that, as the Mayer was leaving with the box, Faith took a moment and looked back, not at the monster she killed from the box, but at the knife she had to leave behind. The knife the Mayor gave to her. You can see that she was emotionally attached to the knife, and didn't want to leave it behind.
Buffy NEVER gets a long term relationship. The curse of being The Slayer.
Thank you for making this series. I am watching buffy for the first time I just finished season 3 last night. And it's nice to listen to someone else talk about the episodes since my current friend group is not watching buffy rn lol
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I find it interesting that Spike and The Mayor are the only ones willing to say home truths to Buffy and Angel about their relationship status this season and overall.
This is an interesting episode for not being very plot driven. The Mayor gets the box, but other than that it is more of a character-based episode.
Told you season 3 is filled with alot of great episodes..
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The Mayor's speech was BS. Neither Buffy, nor Angel has a great life expectancy. Sure, Angel could live a long time, but as long as he's taking an active part in the fight against evil, his life expectancy isn't any better than Buffy's.
Joss Whedon does actually tend to give the insight and truthful dialogue to the villains
@@donsample1002 That is one way to look at it, but the speech isn't just about life expectancy. Angel has shown since _Bad Eggs,_ and perhaps earlier, his wonderment at why Buffy doesn't consider the future. Even in S2 he was struggling with dating her and the differences between them and their ages. The Mayor alludes to the fact that Angel has lived a long time while Buffy could still have a ways to go with or without him and would be on a different life path than his even if he were around. Plus The Mayor also directly says "is [being Buffy's boyfriend] what you came back from hell for." Angel doesn't really have a personality other than Buffy's boyfriend and The Mayor is more aware of that than anyone else in the scene. The speech isn't BS. It is many issues brought up that Buffy and Angel, and all the other characters as well, have been attempting to ignore or haven't been willing to mention to Buffy and Angel. Spike and The Mayor are two of the few who have brought up some hard truths.
@@streetfightervsxenoverse1832 I enjoy the back half more though.
I burst out laughing at 7:40 😂🤣😂🤣 The MI theme song and the crazy angle turns is so extra 👍👍 When Angel was trying to pull Buffy up, I wondered why he struggled: either Buffy's too heavy or Buffy with the box made it heavier or something wrong with that pulley lol
Willow is awesome and her character just gets better and more in depth in future seasons.
Principal Snyder "Why couldn't you be dealing drugs like normal people?" With the chair! Hahaha! That is my favorite Snyder moment...
5:07 - What is that sound effect from? I'm 90% sure I heard it before I started watching this channel, but I can't recall what it's from if I have.
7:50 - Well, Christophe Beck would eventually go on to work for Marvel on Ant-Man and WandaVision.
I reckon Snyder is just kind of vaguely aware of the weird. He was probably told he'd have to keep a lid on the weird and keep things running smoothly, but he's definitely not in the know or in anybody's inner circle.
The sound effect is the ROBLOX death sound! :3
@@sdab4856 Well, I'm not familiar with ROBLOX so maybe I heard it in a meme video or something. Thanks for letting me know.
I'm glad I searched for "Beck" to make sure someone said it.
I'm looking for you reviewing Angel so much! And we're getting closer.
I can't wait till Alley see who Angel's co-star is.
She has already started AtS on Patreon
@@TabbyeLynne Yeah, I know, but I only watch TH-cam, like most people.
Even floating pencils can be a useful skill!
Yes, it's a big reveal because Cordy has never had to work before, her family buys her the latest fashions, a fancy car with a personalised number plate, they all go on expensive foreign holidays. You'll find out why this is no longer the case very soon, probably next episode.
Snyder must know something about the mayor because when Joyce is trying to get Buffy back into school, she threatens that she will go to the mayor and Snyder just says that will be interesting.
The music of seasons 2-6 was composed by Christophe Beck, who I believe composed some of the MCU movies himself.
I did the math, and even if it only takes him 5 second per monster, it would take him about 8,000 years to eat all "50 billion" of them.... Just some "food" for thought
The Mayor is CEO, Snyder is "Middle Management", he knows what his superiors want him to know and believes everything they say.
It seems weird that at the end of Buffy the Vampire Slayer's Senior Year, that the show has you worried about the future of the group and hoping they will all keep in touch almost as if there are some parallels to real life (I am not mocking, merely pointing out, how well delivered/thought out this was).
It is amazing how this show, puts the audience right where they are supposed to be, every time, it doesn't matter the background of the person at certain points, everyone gets on the same path....this show is brilliant, it actually trust its audience.
Willow told her.. Lol ! She's got stones.
Hearing you talk about the Angel/Buffy relationship at the end of this episode makes me REALLY want to hear your take on the hot mess that is the latter seasons of Vampire Diaries
The other day I read about historical influences on esoteric religious expressions. C G Jung came up. Campbells monomyth was suggested to be influenced by him. A story was said to be heavily influenced by Jung because "symbolic beings are used here to represent inner conflicts".
Also, esoteric movements often suggested alternative routes to knowledge. Since the discorse of science and theology has been historically dominated by males, these perspectives became a way for women to be accepted as authority. The parallells are striking.
Ally’s end game predictions-so fun to hear! 😅
My take on Snyder is that he's mostly unaware and this is in part a source of his over-the-top authority act. He's kind of projecting his own insecurity with what little he does know as an act, as if to say to "See, I'm in control of all this stuff I can't clearly be in control of!"
Just subscribed! I’ve been secretly watching all along, but I finally made the jump. I need this content.
"Is this a big reveal, why?" Oh give me strength.......
Joss Whedon made the first avengers movie and he created Buffy there’s a reason the music sounds similar. Also willow couldn’t run she was in the villains layer with probably tons of security.
Probably because they have the same composer.
@@quinnsinclair7028 well joss likes to work with the same people
Snyder knows about vampires and the hellmouth but he doesn't know about the mayor's plans.
the way faith looks at the knife kills me
also willows treatment of faith has always felt like a mischaracterisation of willow bcos i just cant see her being so harsh with faith if it wasnt for plot, ive just always hated it bcos i know willow has more empathy than this and even from the beginning she was harsh on faith and it feel like a man wrote it and willow is saying it lmao i dont know how to word what i mean but willows attitude towards faith has just felt ... off for a while
On the subject of colleges, it's a bit weird that a 'one Starbucks town' where the bad part of town is 'about half a block from the good side of town' has an Ivy League University.
They don't - the UC part of UC Sunnydale indicates that it would be a part of California's public university system - like UC Berkeley or UC Santa Cruz. Plus, the Ivy League schools are all on the east coast!
@@amandabaker4678 Thanks for the information, As a Brit I didn't know quite how the American College/University system works.
Snyder and the Police know some things... not much. Lol
Cordy doesn't need to work. That is the big reveal. It means something is up. That's not a spoiler. Love the Cordy defense btw. :)
And the mayor would definitely like to sew any sort of trouble within the scoobies.
That MI theme edit was magic.
7:35 yesss haha i was waiting for someone to edit this music in !
The question of Fatih is quite complex; Willow was not mistaken in blaming her for having betrayed those who trusted her, but our little witch also forgot how she never really tried to be friends with Faith, unlike Buffy, because she was jealous of the relationship that she had with her BFF. Faith had her reasons for betraying the Gang, she did not feel understood by them or part of the group, and the fact that she has a huge weight on her shoulders both for her powers and for the murder she committed, however her actions remain in each case unjustifiable. Will she be able to redeem herself? Difficult to say; when you go to the dark side it is very difficult to go back, she will have to understand that she is wrong.
The Mayor is a really interesting villain because of his being considerate towards his sidekick like Faith, certainly manipulating her for his own evil plans but at the same time loving her like a daughter, which in fact makes the two the evil counterpart of Buffy and Giles. His speech to Angel and Buffy is sadly absolutely correct, Bangels are not like Bella and Edward, both immortal and destined for an eternity of love, their love is expiring and maybe the two of them have never really thought about it since. now, closed in a false hope of always being together.
We must not forget that if Angel returns happy then he will become evil again and Buffy will be forced to kill him again to save her loved ones!
What future will there be for them?
The final embrace between Buffy and Willow is very tender, the 2 BFFs will still be united also at the University, and we hope that Xander, Giles and Oz will stay with them too.
Snyder seems to have realized that The Mayor has to do with the supernatural events of Sunnydale, will we see him ally with Buffy against Big Bad too?
Cordelia appears to be in a bad situation! Has the kharma hit her? XD
I'm so looking forward to your season 3 analysis! And to all of your reactions of course :D Love hearing your thoughts and feelings about each episode. Plus it's really interesting how you analyse the show from a psychological perspective (I also studied psychology and could probably talk for hours about what theories could be applied to Buffy lol, it's cool to know I'm not alone 😂).
Anyway, thank you for making this content. Hope you enjoy the rest of the series!
Choice is the central theme of the show. The name of the episode signifies the importance of the episode.
When it comes to choices in this show it's very important, remember that word for later seasons.
I love your reaction videos. They are always both enjoyable and thought-provoking. I've seen this episode 3 or 4 times, maybe more, but I'm finally putting some things together about the Whedon-verse that are kind of important. Thanks again, and Happy New Year! Hope you get to 10,000 soon!
What makes the mayor's conversation to Angel so intriguing is that nothing he is saying is incorrect. He makes a lot of good points. He's evil, and he might be trying to throw them off, but he isn't wrong either about the Buffy and Angel's relationship.
The way that he talks to Angel though...as though Buffy has no agency and Angel has to be in charge (presumably because he's the man in the relationship). He doesn't even really address Buffy at all. It's so gross, and I think actually says a lot about how he views women.
@@sammysam312 I see it as he is talking to Angel instead of Buffy because Angel is the elder of the couple (by a few centuries), while Buffy is still in her teens. So someone hundreds of years old would take his advice more to heart, than a love struck teenager.
What new place does Buffy want Angel to take her?? Sunnydale is a small town.
The next episode is one of my favorites in the entire series. Can't wait to see how you react to that one.
This episode brought back the excitement and promise of preparing for college. The future felt boundless. Now that I'm on the other side, the chasm between school and the working world is all I notice. Post-college life was a slap in the face. The main people who cared about my degree were bill collectors. My current position, which boasts an office and an assistant, only came because I spent 9 years as a peon in the office. College was mainly a drag on my finances. Sorry for the therapy session.
I love your edits so much lol
Cordelia was always the rich popular girl, which is why it's odd that now she's working. This is the start of her setups for the near future...
One of my favorite Willow episodes, she's so cool and awesome in this one. Facing off with Faith, stealing the pages, the pencil-staking of the vamp--so good!
Everyone rags on Willow, but if she didn't stay and read all that material... Well then they wouldn't have gained knowledge of what's going on with the Mayor.
Buffy had a love interest, Faith.
Pretty sure the writers here wanted the audience to know that Willow didn't care if Faith deserved redemption or not. She didn't exactly get on board the Faith hype-train when she first showed up, then her jealousy was pretty much the first chip in the Buffy/Faith friendship. When Faith smashed that friendship by killing a human, Willow probably felt quite vindicated. There's quite a few moments in most seasons of the show that underscore exactly how possessive/dependent she can be of her friends. But this is the first season where that really stands out, because in seasons 1-2 they're all about Xander.
about Willow and the books, the mayor probably have more than one vampire on guard, her chances of escaping are actually pretty slim, in the end she makes the right move.
the mayor is trying to plant the seeds of doubt in Angel and Buffy's mind about their life together...and to be fair...he has a valid point.
snyder works for the mayor but he doesn't know the mayor is evil...he is kind of on a need to know basis...so are the police for that matter.
Wow all those questions about where people will go after school. Girl is in for some fun and unexpected surprises.
Wesley was right. Ok, I'll go hide now.
09:11 - 09:26 Badass Willow right there,ladies&gentlemen.😎Pretty stupid and reckless(and also rude!)but still...b-a-d-a-s-s.😎
09:41 - 09:57 I hate it when Villains are right.X-((
When you get to Angel’s show you should skip the opening until episode two or not look at the screen and just listen to the theme song just so it won’t tell you if any characters other than Angel are in it.
She is going to freak out!
@@reesebn38 just don’t say who it is. Or if they are good or evil, dead or alive. Since she doesn’t yet know if it’s a sequel or prequel show.
I realize that living with that thought constantly at the forefront would be detrimental to Buffy, but to me all the conversations about "what when she's old" are moot. No one can grow old with Buffy, because she will most likely not be there to grow old. Slayer's don't even make it to fifty. Thirty sounds like a stretch.
It's good she's able to fit in so much normalcy regarding her life-plans as she does, though. Youth feels invincible.
Also, as much as of course I wanted them to save Willow here, Weasley does have a point. Winning a battle and winning a war require different strategies.
All I can say is the best is yet to come and you will love it!
12:16 Throughout the series Willow had two loves: her current partner...and Buffy.
Willow? Why? Her being captive was the only obstacle to their success. If she'd just peaced out they would have prevent the ascension. She doesn't just duck in to look at the books, she stays so long that there's a cross dissolve of time. Just rip some pages out of the book and go!
it still pisses me off.
I've always thought that people are too harsh on Willow about this. There is very little chance that she could sneak out of the building without being caught, because there are guards. But as long as no one realizes she isn't locked in the little room she had been in, she has the ability to at least do something, even if that's just research.
@@FrancesW- She took out a guard actively threatening her, with a pencil, how could any of the others pose a threat. Not to mention, how competent could the guards possibly be if they didn't only not notice she was missing till morning but also didn't notice one of their number was dead?
But more importantly, if that's the reason, you need to show that. We need to see a shot that shows the thought process of her calculating her odds of escape, deciding they're not good enough to risk and instead trying to learn as much as she can before Buffy rescues her.
Cause the shot we have now indicates "Escape or read books? Read books." Nothing about the scene implies there wasn't a straight shot to the exit.
@@quinnsinclair7028 with Willow captive, you can be sure the Mayor have as many vampires on guard as he can muster, they are probably more worried about Buffy attacking them than willow escaping.
she killed one with a sneak attack, but what if 5 of them corner her ? they can track her like hound dogs.
i agree it could have been shown more clearly
@@quinnsinclair7028 There may be non-vamp guards, she won't take those out with a pencil. Or she might (pencil through the eye), but feels squeamish about causing bodily harm to humans. Also she's up against the mayor, she would be definitely in legal trouble for assault.