The Twist That Could SAVE WoW! Asmongold Reacts to Bellular
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Asmongold watches a video by Bellular, who discusses and speculates about World of Warcraft and how Blizzard could fundamentally change its future by actually giving us a new compelling and exciting story. Is Shadowlands just a distraction to something grander!?..
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Bellular legitimately knows how to write the wow story better than the wow writers do.
A newborn sloth could develop a better story, and faster than WoW 😂
"I really love n'zoth now !" Somewhere, in the void, n'zoth just blushed.
No.
"A-Asmon senpai has finally noticed me UWU"
@@wzx6x6z6w Cease
Bald man loves tooth-head monster. A Match made in heaven.
@@wzx6x6z6w =W= hnnng
makes sense. 6 years of playing this game felt like a fever dream.
oof 🙏
Ooooofffff, damn dude chill lol
blizzard following lore channels to try and decipher what to do next with the lore lmao
ikr lol BLizzard watching this video: Write that down! Write that down!
This is so ridiculous. They have such a bad reputation that this is what everyone expects from them
@@alaszrar6202 Well...The players are more in touch with the product than Blizzard is for the simple fact that we are in it for the story and fun and Blizzard lost touch cause it's just about money for them.
I already know how the story should play out better then this.
Why i play jagex
"I-It's still gonna turn out to be brilliant writing" says maximally nervous Bellular for seventy fifth time since WotLK
I feel like MoP had a great writing too. From that point, it went straight down.
@@flyxhs5858 Yeah fair, it wasn't really until late MoP that shit really went sideways, theres just some of us old boomers who don't even like the cata changes lol
Yeah, first we fought the imminent threats to Azeroth. Sure.
Then we noticed the Legion. Makes sense.
Killed the fucking Lich King. Fuck yeah!
A war-mongering Orc with the power of a god? Fuck his shit!
Timetravel and an army of Orcs and the Legion together? I mean.. Sure, kill'em.
The Legion again. And Titans. Yeah, fine, whatever.
Azeroth is literally dying and an undead Nightelf wants some beef, and Jaina, and suddenly an Old God? I don't get it but sure let's kill'em.
And now we are literally fighting fucking Death itself and that Nightelf lady again.
Where do we go from here? Back to Ragnaros, with a bit of thrice revived Illidan sprinkled in?
@@thehoerscorral8565 cringe
@@Whackfear "Hey guys remember Lothar from Warcraft 2: Tides of DarknessTM(R)(C)? He was alive the whole time, secretly controlling Sylvanas to make her mad and stuff! Isn't that cool?" - Blizz"con" 2022
This sounds fun, so blizzard will not do it.
so true.. so true...
*fun detected*
*NO FUN ALLOWED*
TRUE LULW
No they WILL do it, just in an unfun way. Azerite 2.0 anyone? :P
"IT GROWS HUNGRIER... *BOLDER...* "
Holy shit N'Zoth is trying to speak directly to Asmon
There’s no way the devs thought that far lmao
You know that it is a job to write story, they should be able to make something like that. The headline should be written like 5 or 6 years in advance
@@Wellshem It is possible, but I have a hard time believing they intended this.
you guys underestimate the writing team
Have you seen some of Ilgynoth's whispers in Legion? Idk man sometimes Blizzard does some cool shit
not the devs its the story writers
I'll never get over the player characters just leaving the pillars of creation laying about after the tomb
I KNOW RIGHT?! =D
WHAT CRAZYNESS IS THIS?! ^^
Bad writing really.
This is wishful thinking and putting too much faith in the developers. I was looking forward to N'Zoth for years and in the end he was treated as a joke.
@@randomguy4781 I always thought 'Return of the Black Empire' or something along those lines would have made for a great expansion.
@@runescape5367 Even if it was "part of the plan" having the ending to your expansion be dogshit isn't a good plan.
they didn't even add a new zones in the last patch of BFA, just re-hashed a Cata and MoP zone LOL. forcing people to do 'assaults' so they can enter 'visions' so they can level up their cape so they can kill the final boss in the raid, what a joke. Shadowlands will do the same, they already nerfed loot drops into the ground, they want to artifcially extend play time no matter if the quality of game suffers
A joke just like the US election. A joke Byeden.
@@Evilminiature
You are a Lemming and you will walk over that cliff, if you really think you are a Leftie, or a Commie or whatever. :D
But please... *take the vaccine* at any cost.
“That is not dead which can eternal lie,
And with strange aeons even death may die.”
H.P. Lovecraft
Why is Zoval even considered as death he was just imprisoned there, the realm was already there to begin with doing what it was doing before he was even imprisoned.
How many years has there been videos titled "X COULD SAVE WOW" lmao
It's just clickbait from lazy TH-camrs
It's like watching a drug addict over and over again say if they could just get another hit they'll be good and it'll fix everything. These retail addicts have no idea how sad and pathetic they look these days.
Man let us do our coke in peace lmoa
@@Kelnurok classic is for casuals imo
When did Wow come out exactly?
Since then.
Plot twist, we are still working for yogg-saron
Plot twist - Bolvar let Sylvannas win cause he is his Members only superchat number 1 simp.
And he just gives a sh*t about everything now. ^^
The father of sleep is Mueh'zala, Bwonsamdi refers to him as that in DOS
Ah yes, nothing like the wow playerbase deluding itself into seriously thinking the wow devs are pulling yet another 5head twist, we'll be back after this break with lots of dissapointment!
you're gonna look so fucking stupid when you're proven wrong. wow doesn't exist without expansions. creating expansions is done through the story. This is new story and obviously planned. Lets ignore logic though
@@hydrogamer471 Wow, I've never run into a WoW simp myself, I thought you guys were mystical creatures that only existed in legend. Guess I was wrong about something.
It would have been nice to see blizzard give you an infinite debuff called gift of Nzoth to players who never did the optional quest, and if more players have the debuff than removed, the storyline changes
It would be manipulated by bots. 100%.
there's a major error at the end of bellular's vid. Father of sleep is a recurring title for death gods in real world mythology, and it's also one of the official titles of death in world of warcraft (as Muzala, that's one of the things Bwonsamdi calls him during the De Other Side dungeon.).
so that line could mean something along the lines of "right before victory for the shadows [void lord] death will be savoring its feast - the souls of all creation"
Blizzard does something dumb.
Theory crafters: They are playing 4d chess! You see, actually they...
Blizzard staff: Yes! Feed us more good ideas to give to the masters!
Blizzard bosses: No! Full speed ahead! Continue to SI-MP for Sylvanas!
Joel, this should be top comment.
In the raid, you literally don't even kill N'zoth. You get him to 2% then it shows a cut scene of him being destroyed. That scene could have been a trick escp because he is a god that messes with your mind
N'Zoth didn't kill us. N'Zoth can't kill us. Adventurers can't die. Everyone knows it. The main characters know the adventurers can't die. It is just like Log Horizon. The NPCs know the adventurers are special.
You have never seen the neverending story
@@issac8968 -- The one with the big flying dog. I have seen that but I haven't seen it for a very long time.
The champions of Azeroth are the ones who pay the subscription, therefore they are immortal.
Don't forget that the first patch of the next expansion will be the 10.0
Sounds good for a reborn
When you do the Shadow Priest artifact quest line you are told the blade has a habit of vanishing randomly. That's how it ended up in the hands of the Tortollen.
What is dead may never die. "Cryptic game of thrones quote" bruh that was a Lovecraft quote lmao.
I think yall missing a point. The mortal flesh is not capable of encasing the essence of an entire old God - which is why the blade is used in the way it is. When Xal,atath is released, she leaves in a void elf body; but, what if she wasn't fully released and separated her essence to increase her chances of survival against nzoths scheming. When Wrathian uses the blade he is pushed back and then looks to his hand/body with a very unusual grin - What if Nzoth broke the blade/freed Xalatath remaining essence and placed it into Wrathians body. We are his slaves and Wrathian was one of Xalatath's vessels.
7:22 slyvanas knew when she died in cataclysm at the gilnean gate for the undead side. She said when she died she entered a realm of darkness and she wanted to never return to that place again, follow up to bfa; she tried to steal that lantern from Valhalla from the Valkyrie and failed.
So now turning to the Jailer; the most powerfulest being in all of WoW, this is her last straw basically for power and eternal life.
Most likely if Nzoth is able to have these prediction powers the Jailer being more powerful and schemey then the old gods, my assumption is the jailer would know if slyvanas was gonna betray him. I don’t think she would betray daddy so if they do make her the good girl of the game I would never play horde on retail again.
Quite sad how my guild of friends has become so inactive, one last guy actually sent "imma head out boys. It was fun whilst it lasted". And went offline.
It's honestly sad to see this game slowly decay over the years with SL at it's lowest point currently..
That's actually sad, i feel that one..
ouch that hits hard like those "last online 5 years ago"
I’ve long since thought that everything that happened was by N’Zoths design. He knew we’d do certain things at certain points he just needed to gain control of certain characters that could effect the outcomes. He could effect their choices and the ultimate outcomes by getting his influence where it needed to be in just the right amounts. Either he’s still alive and giggling in the corner, or he’s elsewhere taking a nap cuz he knows he’s got some time.
The Old Gods have always been the real villains. If you played a Shadow Priest in Legion you know that N'zoth is in the blade now. The book we found in Shadowlands also hinted at the fact that the Void Lords were the one enemy the Nathrezim weren't sure they could defeat because they see all possbile outcomes.
The old gods aren’t vilains for us (SP and WL) because they are our masters! We embrace the void :P
If anyone knows Destiny Lore, N’zoth is like Savathune lorewise
The long circle will be complete upon the jailers defeat, there's a voidlord above the maelstrom and there's been events in wow that has made that have been leading up to this.
Asmon if u can see this look up when thrall blasts deathwing during mod, the sky box truly opens up on azeroth then, during cata it could only bee seen from deepholm and not the maelstrom!
The only twist that could save wow is "Wow finally has an ending, wow 2 coming soon"
Correct
@BATKOV whats wrong with being a woman?
@BATKOV ok incel
@BATKOV thats the most incel shit i've heard
@@DioBrando-bh2qd Dude is being an incel. I hate madeleine roux as a person and what she supports, and I dislike her direction in the WoW lore, but to say no woman should be part of the team is stupid and ignorant to the history of the game. You'd think that a progressive company like blizzard wouldn't hire blatant racists, but they love and stand by Roux. Part of the reason I'm not paying for their trash game. If the gameplay was good, I could tolerate one brainlet lore author. Sadly the gameplay is not good.
Shadowlands is just a feverdream Shadowlands is just that zone next to Silvermoon Forest
.....Feralas?
"We like popped a pimple on C'thun"
Oh my god that analogy killed me.
Ye! It's a pure gold! :D
people are like "n'zoth didnt plan shit" but cmon old gods literally know everything about the universe. you know how we as humans can draw lines on paper and bugs wont cross the lines because they their little feelers tell them its a hole or a wall or something? well thats probably what n'zoth is doing to us, he's just drawing lines and we're predcitably moving away from them like tiny little bugs
27:24 That has happened before, need I remind you that Blizzard originally had no intention to make Bolvar the Lich King in the first place but then did by the end of the Expansion?
Same goes with denathrius not getting killed
@@alaszrar6202 Was Denathrius killed? I thought he just put in like a timeout corner
@@heiko3169 (Not anymore :P)
I'm calling it: everyone fights over Azeroth because it's not just a "Titan/World Soul" but it's the Soul of Creation itself and whoever controls Azeroth controls Creation.
out here making up your own lore
@@mortvald 😆
Really hope something like this happens. I love the old gods
"We're keeping Lordaeron, and there's nothing you can do about it." - The Forsaken
Well it is kinda theirs they're the people arthas killed with the scourge in WC3
N'Zoth had the brilliant plan of exposing himself in an all out invasion of the planet rather than simply wait for Sylvanas to make her move and sweep in for the win while the protectors of Azeroth were occupied.
sylvannas can fly away with nzoth powers but nzoth cant beat us with his own powers in his own realm ? Wat. the writing is so shit now, even the cinematic makes no sense, they still haven't explained shit and Shadowladns has been out for like 5 months now
@@Afflictamine did you not watch the video? lol, nzoth let us kill him, so he could keep his soul forever in the blade and be immortal..pay attention dude like holy shit lol
@@Fro609 yeah and its just a 'fan theory' which doesn't make any sense, just like blizzard's writing
@@Fro609 nice name btw
Except Sylvanas and Azshara planned to kill him, so he couldn't just not do anything and die.
"The twist that could save WoW" I feel like I've heard that before
Wait, no one thought we actually died. They were all surprised that we're a mortal walking in the Shadowlands lol
Would've been awesome if a whole N'Zoth fight was an illusion and what what actually happened - we fight through stormwind, and fought Anduin nearly to his death. And maybe this could be one of the reasons he gave it all up to become a lich², although there can be another reason for that, some secret plan or smth.
If this is true, it would defiantly put my perceptive on who's the 'good guys' and who's the 'bad guys' into question
I can’t figure out how people always replace “definitely” with “defiantly”. They don’t sound or even look the same.
@@nickt3176 autocorrect using swipe to text
We're still in the last phase of K'Thun fight, 100%
27:30 - I actually think its the opposite. They see these predictions and get mad that their plot was revealed and change it to something else.
That is what happened to Mass Effect 3. It had a totally different ending that got leaked midway through development so they changed it.
Isn't it a good thing?
if Nzoth Pretended we killed him
what if since time passes faster in shadowlands than in Azeroth
if Nzoth brings us there to kill Sylvanas
we would probs come back to a overrun azeroth because most characters we knew may be dead so noone could hold him back so he would have more time after we killed sylvanas due to the faster
thats what i think would happen in the new patches
that n'zoth voice actor
Too bad the Ducktales went on their last adventure, otherwise they definitely could retrieve that blade or other artifacts to save the world.
"normal character wouldn't do" , A friend of mine would get high and hang from the ledge of a 5-7floor building.
Ye I can see a dumb character releasing a demon from a cellar on accident.
Future Expansion: The Dread of the Void. Dread Lords have been found to be pushing the Void in to greater rash actions. New forces of the Void have been seen opening gates on Azeroth. Using their new Cosmological knowledge, a gateway is opened in to the Realm of the Void.
During our adventures of tracking down these Dread Lords, we find N'Zoth, C'Thun, and Yogg-Saron recovering in their nesting places. The Champions must Raid the Nest of the Old Gods and put them down finally. Here we fight them without the restraints the Titans had placed on them, offering a new fight that is strangely familiar...
@Frog McFrogger, 4 of them were imprisoned on Azeroth. So unless Azeroth is REALLY huge, it's manageable.
Besides, there's portal tech.
@Frog McFrogger, I think Shadowlands is rather fine, except it is suffering from the WoD-syndrome, too much time between patches which makes people feel like, "now what?" I even feel like it takes longer to get characters through Shadowlands content then it did for BfA content.
Whatever happened to main world version of Ner'Zhul? Wasn't his spirit/soul trapped in the helmet? Or when Arthas put on the helmet, then his soul was destroyed? If not, then when Sylvanus destroyed the helmet, wouldn't his spirit be released? And he got these powers and his foresight of prophecy from the Shadowlands?
He will appear in next patch
I just want real night time back.
This is what I am getting from all of this. Bellular, is far better at giving an explanation and imagining a good detailed story, than Blizzard is. I bet Blizzard story writers will see this, and go " oh fuck, would could do that." I do not for a second believe the outcome Bellular is talking about is planned at all. If anyone remembers, Legion story lines were unfinished upon release, and BFA was majorly behind schedule.
Legion, although miles better then Chore-lords of Draenor, had story lines and arcs running all though it, that were completely unfinished, and just dropped dead ended. Does anyone really think they planned everything Bellular is talking about ... yeah, I don't think so.
If it does happen like this, I am going to chalk it up to one of WoW's story team being a sub of Bellular's channel, and just found out how they get their next raise. However if they do do this, I would be intrigued, because N'Zoth should have never went out so such a idiotic manner. He is way to important, not to mention powerful, to just get slapped down like he does.
I always like seeing Asmon geek out at lore.
blizz watching bellular's speculations being like: "write that down write that down"
This is an amazing theory and all, but lets be honest... Blizzard completely just forgot about the dagger, just like they forgot about the huge fucking sword sticking out of the planet still.
Nzoth is the dr strange of Azeroth.
25:28 man those brows are movin
it's sentient, imbued by dark energetic force by the ancient cosmic bald gods
I think blizz hinting at where Old Gods go when they die is referring to Ya'Shaarj (because he was killed by the titans)
Teldressel should have been the NZoth titan facility raid. Like the reason the tree got stupid large by comparison to Nordrassil was from old god corruption.
Thank god Asmon knows that C'thun and Yogg was just fraction of imprisoned old gods body trying to escape but N'zoth is fully unleashed. Damn his chat has no idea about lore
That feel when fans often have better ideas than the team.
Team? Im sure it's just one guy writing this in his jerk off break.
When the theories are better than the actuall lore... i highly doubt they will bring N'zoth back, blizz simply wanted to be done with this storypath and threw him out on the streets
That isn’t a game of thrones quote, what is dead may never die is originally from HP love craft, “That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die” they are going to return after death is defeated
And the old gods are based directly from hp lovecraft
0:44 "N'Zoth working for blizzard" LMAO
Speaking of which, where has Shadowmourne been all these years? We used that to kill Arthas and then heard nothing since. You'd think something like that would have been integrated into the DK Order Hall as the UH artifact weapon...
My DK wields it and whenever I am in maldraxxus the peons tell me that I my weapon is beautifully forged, mawwalker la bla instead of ‚what to you prefer, axe or sword‘ 😁 thats nice, but I feel you
27:22 For sure. I truly believe that Tales of the Past 3 influenced the production of Wrath of the Lich King.
Asmongold: I thought the dagger exploded.
Also Asmongold: How can you forget the dagger it's so obvious!
the old gods will all rise togetherr from the crimson crazzzle
Nzoth better gets that Illidan treatment
Wow classic can be another universe with another story line...
Imagine believing in that
Reminds me when they did that with C'thun in AQ. You can hear him talking to you very subtle
I like how people say the devs didn't think that far but forget the fact that when they released burning crusade the idea was there for like 15 years before its release
Blizzard was a different company, 15 years ago. You can’t compare them then vs now.
Imagine if Bellular was actually part of the story writing team. Bellular, Krucial, Nobbel87, people who actually know the whole lore and can guide the Blizzard guys when they step too far off the path.
What sleeps may never die
And with eon strange
even death may die
Lovecraft knew of Jailor failure and Void victory.
I think when nzoth says youre eyes are closed it means you fall to the light. As "eyes being opened" is a saying the nzoth refers to having corruption/shadow properties because it lets you see infinite possibilities and timelines. Which Nzoth always talks about and offered to give to different beings. It was mentioned a few times by other beings about that being the source of "madness" as people cant handle seeing all the things that could or would or wont be. The light has oppressive and single minded as seen with the more aggressive naaru in other timelines or the one illidan blew apart. I think Nzoth is actually warning us about how the light has become more bold and aggressive when dealing with mortals and that before we know it we will be taken by them closing our eyes to the vision of possibility given by the shadow cosmic forces.
1. Blizzard isn't that good at writing
2. They want to create expansions completely different from one another so any threat we defeat is supposed to be gone.
3. While nzoth was not done justice, we gained our sanity back with the heart and cleansed azeroth. The whole point was to close the old god plot there.
Void lords?
Shadow priests and warlocks: My time has come! FINALLY SOME RECOGNITION!!!
omg the last fetter, so the arrow sylvannas finds the true meaning of zolval's plan and tries to kill him but the fetter (zoval) falls away
Imagine if Forsaken and Nightelves woulda swapped starter zones and one goes Lordaeron and other gets the dead Teldrassil with fully revamped quests or something
Shadowlands is just too dam bright! Hurts my eyes.
Have you tried lowering the brightness on your monitor?
Could be the lightlands, i wouldnt notice the difference.
@@Lorenna1234 well aren’t you the bright one!?
Thanks for the warning
@@peteorzech260 Well wtf kinda complaint is that? It's like going into a shower and saying "this water is too hot, damn this government and their water supply!"
When he said to the moon lol Emrakul is stuck in one
So not only is my character an agent of N'Zoth but also Denathrius and the Dread Lords are behind everything and they're playing all sides? What even is the ultimate goal here? Can Azeroth stop being a lazy bitch and wake up already to end all of this? Lord knows my character needs a break at this point.
Anduin: Wake up, Samurai
Let's all just forget about the fact that the blade is the same color of the jailers domination magic. ;)
Frostmourne was reforged into the DK's artifact weapons.
It makes sense, thats why we could open the portal in the maw. "relic of the first ones, responding to a mortal"
Wow classic could spin a new story line. Maybe?
Might be link between alleria's void powers and the blade, or all can be whats to come when n'zoth gave his gift, all has not happend yet. all eyes are closed.
Sorry, but no amount of storywriting can save the boring, daily quest chore "endgame"
Dude but think of the "Allied Races" you could unlock for doing that daily "Endgame" for rep and "Rewards".
The endgame is mythic raiding, high m+ and high rated pvp. Daily chores are not endgame.
Lol I don't think anyone thinks the daily quest chore is endgame, none of the dailies are mandatory. Even the weeklies are optional.
Currently doing high M+ (20+) and mythic raiding with all the nerfs its a goddamn chore. Got my M+ mount, some 20+,Mraid and pvp and that’l all.
@@Engendroist Kinda same, Mythic Prog is fun, pushing logs/higher keys is fun to an extent, PvP is fun. Everything else I can miss which is fine because the games seems to understand and allow for that. I just keep enough stigya farmed up incase i need to replace a socketed item and that's it for daily work.
Well the dagger could not of been destroyed because how could they know it would kill him if it had not been used once before. I Don't follow lore too much but who said it would kill him may really be a double agent
Sometimes, you need an expansion to build up to a BETTER expansion, if you look at it content wise, the next part to WoW might be extremely good in terms of content if they're now laying stepping stones to build up not only their cosmos but the amount of content we might get.
its a small hope but maybe we'll see more than 5 zones in the next leg of the journey and better improvements not just tweaks.
Man but the question is Where does the azeroths titan take place in this scenario. Like all legion stuff etc was linked to how powerful azeroths titan was and how oldgods should not consume her.
But story with Tidestone of Golganneth shows us - that Blizz dont give a fuck. Huh? Dagger just MAGICALLY disappear like Tidestone got at Azshara's hands after the Legion and ToS events.
When TITANS kill Isharadje its fucked all pandaria island with his filthy blood. And it was a Titans, not mirely mortals, mogu or gummi bears. It was battle of all battles. If we can do some thing like that, wave of Nzoth death will kill as all, like Hellscream dies, when he execute Mannaroth.
And again, we fight Nzoth where? In anoter/alternate reality. In one big illusion, cus there no time and space in azeroth, where we can witness that city Was or Come. Its all seems to me like mind game. Like wizzard of Oz.
"they are walking plot devices"....armed with flashlights. XD
I mean, if I’m spitballing here, maybe wrathion was possessed by Nzoth.
You can find something really fun within the Lore... But in the end it's Blizzard, and they are gonna deliver the same shitty Blizzard standards that they have in the last 10 years. It isn't gonna change anything.
19:40 - the canon of the story is whatever blizzard wants it to be, till Red Shirt appears and ruins it for them.
24:12 I believe Wrathion is working with Nzoth. He looks at his hand, holding no blade and smiles after the stab knowing that the transfer was successful. Is the father of sleep the oldgod in the blade? Is he savoring his feast sustaining himself on Nzoth as Nzoth sacrificed himself letting them stab him. Sacrifice is extremely powerful.