A͏s͏mongold Reacts to "World of Warcraft is Perfectly Balanced" | By MadSeasonShow

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  • Asmongold watches a video by Madseason, who explains why World of Warcraft is the most balanced game ever, not a single problem about it, none! Classic WoW is no exception...
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  • @Frosty-kz4om
    @Frosty-kz4om 3 ปีที่แล้ว +333

    Reminds me of what Totalbiscuit said during the Cata beta. "I don't want the game to lower to my level, I want to raise myself to the level of the game"

    • @HierophanticRose
      @HierophanticRose 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Dude left at the perfect time to leave.

    • @semisacred
      @semisacred 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@HierophanticRose there was never a perfect time T_T

    • @SporeTres
      @SporeTres 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yea, I agreed with him. I enjoyed the early Cata dungeons. You had to actually think.

    • @mcdick1621
      @mcdick1621 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and that was one of the main reasons cata bombed.

    • @thegifting267
      @thegifting267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aka spend your life on it just so you can get the best items in the game. Not caring about balance is so goofy. Why? Instead of the game being balanced already you have to spend a lot of time to get the best items just to balance it out.

  • @welpwelp4777
    @welpwelp4777 3 ปีที่แล้ว +840

    Anytime asmon talks about wow balance his eyebrows start flying lmao

    • @Staplegunner
      @Staplegunner 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Its whenever he talks lmao

    • @A_Goat
      @A_Goat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Legend says of he flaps them enough times they will fly away.

    • @MatthewTheUntitled
      @MatthewTheUntitled 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Anytime asmot talks his eyebrows are flying

    • @Wowbeezz
      @Wowbeezz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Pew, pew pew, pew pew pew...

    • @BoBenson
      @BoBenson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't do drugs kids

  • @joerivde
    @joerivde 3 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    Imagine Asmongold having a kid with Emilia Clarke, the eyebrows on that kid would have a life of their own.

  • @mexicanjojo6369
    @mexicanjojo6369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    "Everyone has everything"
    My broken ass outlaw rogue feels offended at a spiritual level

    • @EnderGoku9001
      @EnderGoku9001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My retail rogue wants to speak with you good sir

    • @orionbrown6766
      @orionbrown6766 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yup all because "every class need range" bring back combat, outlaw is booty cheeks.

    • @van.deaux.1694
      @van.deaux.1694 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@orionbrown6766 play vanilla or bc

    • @van.deaux.1694
      @van.deaux.1694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Valek O'Keefe I play vanilla you dumbshit

    • @danielwinchester4759
      @danielwinchester4759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@van.deaux.1694 we’re all dumb shits down here.

  • @BoomerElite4u
    @BoomerElite4u 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It is kind of funny, I haven’t played classic WoW in 15 years and I still know the names of T1, T2 and T3 rogue armor by heart.

  • @aqdjbcr
    @aqdjbcr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The timing on “except warriors” and “except the class I play” was perfect

  • @siyash808
    @siyash808 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    covenants are going to be forgettable too... i'm so sick and tired of expansion features becoming the new player power only to go away at next expansion pre patches.

    • @DarthZ01
      @DarthZ01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah but can you imagine building an alt if you needed to do every xpacs progression system just to do current raids?
      Like needing to get a mop cape, do wods story for the passives and getting the ring, then power up an artifact, then azurite neck, then covenant and runecarving.
      On EVERY alt, potentially multiple times if you use different specs. And that's just the systems I know about because I started in Mists of Pandaria

  • @Nelnac
    @Nelnac ปีที่แล้ว +8

    loot was interesting in classic-wrath because you were trying to balance that "checklist" (hit, expertise, etc...) with maximizing your primary stats, trade off tier bonuses, and having to re- gem or re-enchant, it made your character really feel like you m made them instead of just oh new gear with higher iLvL blindly right click and keep facerolling.

  • @DeekerJones
    @DeekerJones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    On Part 4, The Loot - This was THE nail in the coffin for me. I loved the old tier sets where you had to really think things out in order to get BiS, and the moment you think you know a thing or two, the meta shifts because some asstwerp figured out if you use these particular pair of green level 12 gloves with a certain hawk feather, you get a machine gun... or some shit.
    Now, it is just pick the one with the bigger numbers... yay.

    • @lucyfleet1944
      @lucyfleet1944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This. I was replaying classic last year, and one of the best feelings for me was getting a level 23 blue chestplate which gave like +10 strength over a more balanced defensive spread with stamina as the focus.
      It was a specific drop, not just the next upgrade but a specific item from one dungeon which gave really nice stats for a DPS playstyle. It dropped, I won the need roll against the rat hunter needing it to sell, and walked away with a nice upgrade and a sense I found an item which was really good and wore it for like the next 10 levels.
      Now in most MMO's, even ones I like and still play such as FFXIV, I rarely even look at the gears stats or even what items drop from where. Just if the game says 'this is better' I equip it until I get to end game, and even then usually endgame gear is all copy pasted stat swaps and you are just looking for the highest mainstat/secondary stat combo

  • @jereXIX
    @jereXIX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Taeschalach was the last weapon I got that I remember being excited about and that was for lore and aesthetic reasons; not stats or being useful...especially because I didn’t get it to drop until several months into BfA.

  • @Jimpipecigarbear
    @Jimpipecigarbear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Reminds me of one raid event where after demon hunters was unlocked. The raid was flooded with demon hunters. Was an interesting time playing as a guardian tank during those fights.

  • @seancates8349
    @seancates8349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    that fact that the 4 strength 4 stam leather belt meme shows how meaningful the loot was compared to when you didn't get corrupted gear in retail when you get and up grade in classic you feel it its meaningful

  • @joewang6176
    @joewang6176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Retail: every body got a heal to use in combat but arms warrior.

    • @truefalcon6884
      @truefalcon6884 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Victory Rush?

    • @KrunemGrimcleaver
      @KrunemGrimcleaver 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      True Falcon only works if we get a kill. Impending Victory is the other option but it’s also not very good, good CD though.

    • @itsgarvington7100
      @itsgarvington7100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm pretty sure impending is the trade off for vic rush? But its the only heals in combat I believe

    • @insanodeathguy2160
      @insanodeathguy2160 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mage does too?

    • @joaoleite1456
      @joaoleite1456 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@insanodeathguy2160 they fixed that with the blink azerite trait. also Shields

  • @bioshockz
    @bioshockz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i always remember the moment i got Shadowmourne on my warrior in wotlk first thing i did was entering in a BG and hitting 10k+ mortal strikes on low geared people was the best feeling ever

  • @Marzin86
    @Marzin86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the big jump was to mist of pandaria when they even toke away the talent tree

  • @GrokeytheHunter
    @GrokeytheHunter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun note he mentions demon hunter tanks don't have a "thing" but I would argue they are self sustain tanks. I am often the designated off tank of raids, and my self heal can allow the healers to not focus me long enough to stop a raid wipe

  • @GoatzombieBubba
    @GoatzombieBubba 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cataclysm Patch 4.0.1 (2010-10-12): Spell power has been removed from all armor (except [Feathermoon Headdress]).
    Wrath of the Lich King Patch 3.0.2 (2008-10-14): All items and effects which grant bonuses to spell damage and spell healing are being consolidated into a single stat, Spell Power. This stat will appear with the same values found on items which grant "increased spell damage and healing" such as on typical Mage and Warlock itemization.

  • @AdriReport
    @AdriReport 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Other topics may be more complex but loot is simple, when you make it all about just plain number increase (aka offstats) people will just check if the number is bigger or if the addon says +x% increase and equip it. Whenever you had gear sets or random effects, either you run full simulations (which 90% playerbase won't do) or have a tiered list of gear (which won't matter to most casual/average players) or you just have to make a choice to use it or not (which makes the item meaningful). That's what makes the game interesting imo.

  • @raymondluca7779
    @raymondluca7779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that frost mage against the terminator is funny as hell

  • @Freesnuggz
    @Freesnuggz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    on the pvp section, looking back i really think the best time was with PVP resilience pieces that you could buy. Ppl who had solid pve gear, could go in and be successful in many ways, but those who spent more time in pvp would still be rewarded for their time spent doing PVP with their increased survivability and they had choice of gear they wanted to spend their earned currency on. Not only that, but every class is not able to be built (well...meaningfully) to be able to take on all classes solo without a substantial amount of expertise. Gear can help tip the balance, but so can teammates....which is why PVP is often not a solo adventure. As much as we might want it to be. Turn warmode on and have fun i guess?

    • @idontcare9041
      @idontcare9041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too. I had the best PvP experience in BC and I think resilience gear was a fantastic idea. Time and progress was rewarded with gear that excels at the content you did. Gear mattered, skill mattered and item progression made sense. I think the worst thing developers do is to listen to complaints and making the game more forgiving for inexperienced players

  • @eddiesnyder4354
    @eddiesnyder4354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    wheres the mention of the lack of diminishing return days and Rogues dominating you in wedding dresses while keep you in a never ending stun lock

  • @MoroVanator
    @MoroVanator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most memorable mmorpg weapon that I ever had was in Asheron's call I built the top tier Siliphi of Crimson Stars. Took forever to farm out top mats. Had the top tier rubies in every slot. Had the top tier armordillo spine. It was fun. I loved my S.R.A.

  • @Joshboyes1
    @Joshboyes1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like that they make you choose between alts and having stuff like corruptions. Makes it more time consuming for people to reroll the meta every patch

  • @alvaroneto9214
    @alvaroneto9214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    The goal of any RPG should be to balance imbalanced classes each with their own strenghts

    • @kklap3219
      @kklap3219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thats kind of the dota2 situation, everything is broken, so nothing is

    • @Sam_Combs
      @Sam_Combs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Thelaretus the point of MMOs is to have the ability to stand out and be unique. That's why there are classes. If everyone had the same abilities in WoW nobody would play it.

    • @BG_centrs
      @BG_centrs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is balancing classes going to improve role playing?

  • @Solklar
    @Solklar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It's cool that you can find uses for bad items in classic like the corn staff from bwl with 40 int is super good for aoe farming mages.
    Also the overall feeling of getting lets say onslaught belt is way better than getting a generic mythic belt from the current raid tier in retail which is kinda weird because it's not like onslaught belt has anything that's that exciting.

  • @FearTheDeep
    @FearTheDeep 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:40 that rant reminds me of the Final Fantasy mmo. I don't play mmos but that _IS_ pretty useful sharing all that stuff on one character.

  • @Thealchemyoflife
    @Thealchemyoflife 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I only REALLY played warlock, but even then I could feel when they made big balance changes as this class, even when my class was hardly touched. When I started playing in early BC I quickly grew to love destruction spec, and mained it for a majority of my time with WoW. Back in BC I was topping most damage meters in most expansions I played (skipped some expansions, and don't play anymore). Took a break when MoP came along, and rejoined with WoD... WoD KILLED my love for the game. I may have been a tad rusty when I returned, but proper spell rotation is like riding a bike, you don't forget it! I would squeezing in every drop of damage I could between queuing up spells between global cooldowns, and getting best in slot versions of gear. Even then I was regularly being out damaged by classes that previously struggled to keep up with me, and they beat my damage in their sleep.

  • @TheCrawdaddy029
    @TheCrawdaddy029 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @24:00 I can still remember The truesilver Champion cause I went out of my way to make it and it felt awesome weilding it. The bubble proc was great. Aside from lore weapons I can't name any other weapon.

  • @percocetthirty
    @percocetthirty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i dont play wow but im here to say i thought the deadly premonition whistle song at the start of the video was a great touch

  • @vizhardus4978
    @vizhardus4978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just want tiers sets and special effect on weapons. Hit chance and stuff too.
    I still remember how good it felt to reach the CRAZY hit cap you needed on fury warrior.

  • @Vanderfate
    @Vanderfate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Some gonna complaint class stacking if Blizzard actually made the change

  • @damntravis6056
    @damntravis6056 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember when every arena comp was rogue mage priest. Those days were rough being a holy pally

  • @wendygo7962
    @wendygo7962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Well if the endgame of WoW is based on groups, then they would have to balance the game around groups, meaning multiple classes are present.
    It seems like people are mad that the game isn't balanced at an individual level, when in fact that's not the point at all?

    • @TrixAreForKicks
      @TrixAreForKicks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what about pvp? thats not directly group content. can be 2v2's or 3v3's

    • @RealCecilion
      @RealCecilion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      freja Lenschow 10v10 rbgs btw

    • @DriftNick
      @DriftNick 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TrixAreForKicks 2v2 and 3v3 are literally group content.

    • @wendygo7962
      @wendygo7962 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Flame War:
      *ENGAGE*

  • @EloquentTroll
    @EloquentTroll 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really don't feel a lot of need to do most daily and weekly chores, but I really like Island Expeditions and knock those out every week on 6 characters. But I also want to push my Heart of Azeroths as high as I can to put off replacing it in Shadowlands.

  • @ToyokaX
    @ToyokaX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    It's quite ironic. Blizzard makes sure all classes can do everything, because they're afraid to bring the "bring the class, not the player" mentality back, yet they incentivize making alts and other multiple characters (and even go as far as to sell level ups) to do other kinds of content? Come on. Blizzard needs to scrap this "jack of all trades, master of none" bullshit and make classes more unique again. It's not like it used to be where it took forever to level your character anyway..

    • @Mictla155
      @Mictla155 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeppers.

    • @luisurdiales3091
      @luisurdiales3091 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Gotta keep in mind that they did that for a reason. People don't like to be outright gimped for certain content for the classes they play. The RP factor in RPGs means players develop a connection with their characters and if they like playing resto druid they wouldn't want to have to be turned down because their class is dogshit at tank healing, for example.

    • @Dathrix
      @Dathrix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Luis Urdiales well make them kind of viable if u play good and make content easyer its stupid that theres mythic which idk 80% of people never see until the next expansion comes out

    • @fameus4423
      @fameus4423 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      quite*

    • @ToyokaX
      @ToyokaX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fameus4423 thanks

  • @corymc92
    @corymc92 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    frost mage has a legendary in shadowlands that makes frost nova not break from your dmg, and they are frozen, so every ice lance crits for 5k.. and u can spam it. and u can have 2 charges of frost nova. so 16 seconds of critting instant casts

  • @Slowmotion1225
    @Slowmotion1225 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite weapon in classic?
    The Nightblade. Level 39 Epic 2H Sword. Enchanted with Crusader. I will never forget twinking level 39 BG's on my Arms warrior.

  • @darklegion3693
    @darklegion3693 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I thought this was gonna be a spiffing brit video.

  • @christerknutsen8031
    @christerknutsen8031 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 thing is for sure, classic is more about consumeables and enginerring more than class balance (in pvp) Meaning those factors can outscale imbalance more than class variety

  • @pontusjakobsson9303
    @pontusjakobsson9303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im so sad that Reforging didnt come back in shadowlands.. you can still get "better" items with totally wrong stats, so you will loose dps from equiping them

  • @isnanesavant
    @isnanesavant 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    loot is interesting in classic wow depending on class. an enhancement shaman, warrior and rogue get cool shit with on hits or procs for example

  • @Renwoxing13
    @Renwoxing13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started late into 8.3.
    . Like July or something.
    And looking back in time I do wish it was the way it was in wotlk whereby my starting late was cause for me to experience everything from nax,ulduar, toc and the frozen thrine!

  • @chron2609
    @chron2609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my most memorable days in gaming was back in vanilla when I had the blue warrior pvp set with lion heart, MC girdle etc and I got the zin rohk destroyer of worlds, server first. I went to ironforge, respeced to sword spec in arms, queued arathi basin and deleted people for hours. The weight of items in vanilla made the game fun and memorable. I miss those days.

  • @Vincrand
    @Vincrand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I haven't played WoW much (never paid for it), but have played quite a lot of rpg's. Balancing isn't always boring. With imbalance you'll end up with some classes/ races barely being played because they are weak. It depends on how you balance things. You can give everyone the same kit, but that would be boring indeed. DPS classes can have the same max output, but the way you get to that damage could be way different. Same ofcourse for other type of classes.
    Itemsets can be good. I think that the best in slot equipment should not be part of a set. This way a lower tier equipment with a set bonus can be viable to some point, but should still be worse than best in slot equipment set without set bonus. This way the player has to think about when it's worth to equip the better in slot items. Also each individual item of the best in slot gear is more noticeable than if it were in a set with a bonus.

  • @snackpup
    @snackpup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    i played alts all bfa so i didn't really get to mess around with corruptions

    • @einsiedler6052
      @einsiedler6052 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same... I played BFA a lot but somehow I never really reached endgame content. I have so many characters with fragments of the mainstory done but non with all. I have like one character that did the essence quests & story so that one has more than just the very first essence. And all characters are geared with the same world quest shit. One character did the visions pre quest but had so bad gear that the visions were just no fun and I never farmed stuff to enter again... I really only do alt stuff this expansion. Feels so weird. Like I played a lot during BFA but never really BFA content D:

    • @p2olo
      @p2olo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      +1

    • @EnderGoku9001
      @EnderGoku9001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro i've tried doing alts but the grind is just asinine

    • @snackpup
      @snackpup 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EnderGoku9001 ive done the cloak quest like 20 times

  • @dreamsleeper87
    @dreamsleeper87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember i got a staff that had a chance to summons angels and it was awesome in arena

  • @johnhammond6225
    @johnhammond6225 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will never forget Robes of Insight dropping for me. I was playing Vanilla, trying all the classes trying to decide what I liked to play. While leveling a priest one randomly dropped of trash. I remember almost shitting myself over seeing the purple item text. I mained that priest all the way through cata.

  • @aureliabackup7313
    @aureliabackup7313 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I also agree the core idea behind Corruptions is actually very good and interesting.
    However, the way you get corruptions is extremely bad. At first it was pure RNG or buying a 2 million gold boe. Now it's an absolutely insane grind and then you can't even get it because you have to wait for the rotation.
    Blizzard just loves ruining good ideas.

    • @tychus3340
      @tychus3340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Would have been a lot better if Mother was a vendor for corruption from the start and not just the last leg of the expansion.

    • @EnderGoku9001
      @EnderGoku9001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tychus last leg? What the fuck

  • @MaximumCarter
    @MaximumCarter ปีที่แล้ว

    The last weapon I remember getting and that I'll never forget... was Shadowmourne. That was a long time ago.

  • @Silulaya
    @Silulaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everything in that video is pretty much right except the loot section, there is plenty of gear I can specifically remember in bfa that had extra effects that even had weird stats on it from the raids, its just not as common anymore.

  • @adherry8142
    @adherry8142 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this downscaling could be skipped without titanforging. We went within one expansion to 3-4 times as much HP and damage.

  • @ingold1470
    @ingold1470 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At least Classic nerfs class stacking with its loot system. Half the raid being warrs isn't so great a comp when most of them are still wearing dungeon blues, so you'd have to be specifically aiming for a record clear by using multiple groups to gear the warrs for it to work.

  • @doffehalls7238
    @doffehalls7238 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so true, same for me. everytime someting from classic i remember but not on retail

  • @CrystalPrelude
    @CrystalPrelude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm impressed that his chat knew that was Final Fantasy 4 (Or Final Fantasy 2 for the SNES)

  • @Diadras
    @Diadras 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Checking the length of the video before watching made me go "40 minutes, Nice"

  • @Reyz-ym7op
    @Reyz-ym7op 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It took until now to see a change into the way alts play I just watch your video reaction of the war within.

  • @alexvoyd1132
    @alexvoyd1132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I feel like every proposition Asmo makes for WoW already exists in FFXIV! Its really a shame he doesnt give it a chance.

    • @TrippinAlpaca
      @TrippinAlpaca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ffxiv is boring tho. I tried for over 10 hours to get into it, just doesnt do anything for me

    • @alexvoyd1132
      @alexvoyd1132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TrippinAlpaca i get what you mean,the classes are so boring for the first many levels and ofc its a problem but the game starts becoming way way better at higher lvls

    • @TrippinAlpaca
      @TrippinAlpaca 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexvoyd1132 yeah, I hear that from friends a lot, but games like WoW and OSRS suck you in quick with immersion and stories. That has a lot to do with themes of the games themselves though. I dont have any interest in the final fantasy series, so the art style and world dont really do it for me. I enjoy taverns and ale as a place to live out another "life" so to speak.
      But I may give it another try after I'm done with valheim

    • @alexvoyd1132
      @alexvoyd1132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TrippinAlpaca it surely is a flaw of the game. You can't ask from the player to play 30h before the game starts being good!! Other games have less gametime than that. But it surely becomes better later so its up to anyone's patience

  • @mithshude
    @mithshude 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    having just cleared my youtube history i thought i was about to see asmon reacting to "the spiffing brit" breaking wow, sadly such a video doesn't exist :(

  • @hughmungus6911
    @hughmungus6911 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Shamans are OP" the classic andys shout in Arathi Basin while their plate wearing healer pops his third invuln spell and continues healing through the teamfight with 5 people comboing on him mid-cast.

  • @derekblankenship8970
    @derekblankenship8970 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We want balance, water puts out fire, fire burns grass, water makes grass grow. Blizzard heard balance and thought we wanted water to be the same as fire...

  • @AquaMario123
    @AquaMario123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    But then, people want to just have permanent access to every covenant class ability bc "I need to be able to adapt on the fly"

    • @rollcaskett1812
      @rollcaskett1812 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      This is why you shouldn't allow angry gamers to design your video game for you.

    • @villiam872388
      @villiam872388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      But how is that a bad thing? just let players do like a 1h grind of some sort to change cov, with no timegate on it. That way you can change your class depending on what you want to do. Nobody is unique anymore because of the classes, why keep that mentality?

    • @OGLobotomy
      @OGLobotomy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      If you like changing spec on the fly then covs should be the same way

    • @veneticazero5106
      @veneticazero5106 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Balance does not exist.
      It is ephemeral phantom, its very existence based on subjectiveness.
      True "balance" exist in constant, cruel changes + lack of player's ability to try everything in a game without any difficulties.
      Talent changes should not exist. Leveling should be hard, long lasting.
      Fraction should be 1 server only, there should be no opportunity to change it for money.
      Etc, etc, etc.
      And the more popular game becomes, the more people are experienced in it; ballance will require more sacrifices for its existence.
      Because ballance exist in either infinite possibilities or in New environment.

    • @itstime5138
      @itstime5138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You don't understand. Retail = bad, everything else = good. You can say "Unbalanced = good" because it makes you unique and groups can compensate each others' weaknesses, but only if you say "Retail = bad, not unique, too balanced". If Retail becomes unbalanced, you can't say that anymore because Retail must always = bad. People have been pointing out these logical fallacies for a long time, but the majority still screech when they hear Retail and always spam Pog when they show any other (literal trash) MMO.

  • @trixdream
    @trixdream 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    items in classic are so much better. he forgot that you have an defensive bonus aswell to base stats like agility(dodge) and str(block). so for pvp you pick agy and str ( raw stats) over attack power or crit. just a little example.

  • @ilanori
    @ilanori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Asmon has the most active brow of any man on planet Earth.

  • @pinethree7283
    @pinethree7283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Classic Druid is my favorite class ever made in an mmo. Remained that way for long time.
    Why? Because it was exactly what I pictured a Druid being in that world, that fantasy. A shapeshifter. Capable of damage, defense, and healing & buffing.
    The Swiss Army knife of classes.
    Once they gutted the shapeshifting aspect of the class it was completely ruined imo.
    If you knew how to play the class correctly you could take on anyone 1v1 and have a good chance at survival.

  • @ElevatedLevetator
    @ElevatedLevetator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the classes were definitely complete in wotlk. THats why i LOVE wotlk more than tbc and classic. THe classes feels so fucking good

  • @GunSlingerX1000
    @GunSlingerX1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The worst is, Blizz have perfect example of account wide practice - Diablo3. You have account wide stuff, and specific , class bases achievs or weps.

  • @asphalt-cowboy9479
    @asphalt-cowboy9479 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You got me back into wow after not playing for 6ish years. And I couldn't handle playing for more than 2 months.. I got soo incredibly bored with the content in the game that I used to literally crave playing that I quit before my second month of subscription.. BFA seemed soo confusing to me at first.. it was soo incredibly different to what i remember leaving in wotlk when I quit last time.. i ultimately decided to quit because I really hated that I was working my ass off grinding mythics to get a teeny tiny bit better version of the item that I've already got and it just wasn't as appealing to me.. I remember getting soo excited when I got the "kang the decapitator" 2h axe on a shitty level 54 warrior i used to play.. it didn't matter that it was worse than my current weapon it was an actually unique item that I thought looked cool as shit. I considered picking up classic but I just haven't committed to it because I think its more of a nostalgia thing for me.. my favorite thing to do was building up lol 19-29-39 thinks to just decimate WSG. I used to play a lol 39 hunter and I was practically invincible in WSG ad a flag carrier.. I loved it man.

  • @serpentb0y389
    @serpentb0y389 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Retial, end of Oct:
    May or may not have "drained life" a level 45 warrior to death in Northrend today. I'm level 22. Hand of Guldan op.

  • @deadheadkid19
    @deadheadkid19 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *laughs in shaman*

  • @NidotheKing
    @NidotheKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The time-to-kill in retail is my least favorite part of PvP. It takes you 30 secs of running circles around anyone to get a kill unless youre playing that seasons "broken" spec.

  • @bradvanbakel5781
    @bradvanbakel5781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My Resto shaman takes offense to "priests are the best healers"

  • @RBYW1234
    @RBYW1234 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a raid that can only be beaten with alliance ad a dungeon for Horde based on class ability would be universal.

  • @Ownuout
    @Ownuout 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't even play WOW anymore but still love you're videos! Good entertainment and spot on views.

  • @Nelnac
    @Nelnac ปีที่แล้ว

    Azmongold just described the roles in wrath while describing healers.

  • @sirscientist1514
    @sirscientist1514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    24:32 THIS is why i loved the weapons that dropped in cata, they were cool, they looked cool, they had awesome effects. We need more weapons like this, all the time, cool shit that actually is good. Weapons should always be epic like that. It's a god damn joke

    • @Wowbeezz
      @Wowbeezz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you loved it better put remember loving them so much because the graphics upgrade from wotlk to cats type weps was immense. Now the weps are even better, but it all can look cool and it's all the same and we have 10000 of em so meh

    • @sirscientist1514
      @sirscientist1514 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wowbeezz nahh I just loved the proc on the weapons. Only weapon visually I liked was gurth because it was a big boi

  • @ShuShuShop
    @ShuShuShop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Survival is the red headed step child.
    Mommy doesn't give him any milkies.

  • @chukah9484
    @chukah9484 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hate having to do dailies, rep grinds, and random fill the bar systems. Just let me login and raid.

  • @iosonolucaio
    @iosonolucaio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The "garage Door opener" was asmon's joke

  • @mojolotz
    @mojolotz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "How is loot nor boring in classic wow"
    Bro if you play the game 24/7 for months and don't even touch suboptimal pieces because everything has been prepicked months before release EVERYTHING is boring.
    For the time when it was made the loot in vanilla was great. Even in classic during the levelling the loot was very interesting and if you didn't play by guide 100% it was fun in endgame too. Even playing with a guide you still had interesting descisions during the gearing process.
    LOOT IS ALWAYS BORING ONCE YOU HAVE THE BEST LOOT.

    • @magride
      @magride 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      because you are comparing in your head but to me we are talking about the game that work pretty well for YEARS

    • @greekgodx6560
      @greekgodx6560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why is it that 90% of the time someone defends classic, they have to say, "For it's time" in some fashion or another. It's not 2008 anymore.

    • @mojolotz
      @mojolotz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greekgodx6560 The game's design was made at that time. We are supoosed to have learned a lot since then, so we should have different standards.
      Also i am pretty sure i mentioned that it is still good today. It's just that the game has been out for so long and everyone knew how to powerlevel, skipping most itemisation descisions during leveling and then knew the BIS in endgame, skipping most itemisation in endgame. Even given ALL THAT i still feel like overall i had more fun with the items in classic than i had when i played during legion and bfa.

    • @spanzotab
      @spanzotab 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greekgodx6560 In order for it to be a fair comparison, you have to look at classic in its historical context from when it was new content when comparing it to contemporary content.

    • @kaspernielsen9149
      @kaspernielsen9149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greekgodx6560 no it's not 2008 hence why people say it

  • @beekeeperbrad6251
    @beekeeperbrad6251 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They need to make raids and dungeons like eso so you can do the old raids and the old sets still usable at max level

  • @Flaky1990
    @Flaky1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I remember rocking Rune of Re-Origination with my ww monk in MoP, that item was so much fun but pure bullshit with the old mastery.

    • @MooseCastle
      @MooseCastle 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      MoP trinkets were so fucking good, especially the ToT ones.

  • @dangerwarg9682
    @dangerwarg9682 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:00 Which is exactly why Final Fantasy 14 is not alt friendly. The grind is 1:1 for all characters. That was months is still months. Gotta do the whole story, the whole grind, ALL OF IT again. 1 character can do literally everything. There are absolutely zero systems for alts. You can't even send mail to yourself! You gotta use the market board and buy your own stuff to transfer stuff and funds between characters. And remember, blizz wants to be more like FF14.

    • @dangerwarg9682
      @dangerwarg9682 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kubi0461 Some people would like to play with buddies across data centers or simply to play as something other than whatever their first character is. Like what if you wanna play a midlander girl and a hrothgar?
      These grinds are made as if the very notion of having multiple characters doesn't exist. Even the moggle shop to a very large extent does this. 3 or 7 dollars for an emote PER CHARACTER among other things.
      Systems that WoW has been trying to imitate since Legion. The most abhorrent thing about this is that WoW is still on top. They have no reason to be more like FF14. Anyone who knows WoW knows the players won't like it.

  • @aleck.492
    @aleck.492 ปีที่แล้ว

    when i played warzone the kirieg was straight beaming people almost like a lasergun

  • @willcal2738
    @willcal2738 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i would spend 40g repairing after a raid, and i just gave up because i never got any loot, and was always very poor on all my toons

  • @akhsdenlew1861
    @akhsdenlew1861 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What i don't like about Retail wow is that EVERY SINGLE CLASS has an interupt/kick/silience or even all of them.

  • @regs137
    @regs137 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact. Every piece of cloth and leather armor that you craft has the exact same stats in classic. Armor rating, main stat, and stamina.

  • @mactassio21
    @mactassio21 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:00 "is this secret of mana?" asmon, have you ever played any game but WoW in your childhood?

  • @chillshock2144
    @chillshock2144 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh god, so much truth in this! And that's me being an utter noob most of the time. At least hardly ever top geared (maybe the very end of a season for a week or so - back in the days).
    I still consider the straight-forward true numbers and levels and stats much better than this weird stuff that's going on now...
    I ACTUALLY consider "farming for hitcap" a lot more fun than not even knowing what the point is.

  • @Theopenwindowmaniacs
    @Theopenwindowmaniacs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Blizzard is in Cali, where people think you should be born in at the same item level as a wealthy businessman. This is reflected in Retail WoW.

  • @bonecrushra.k.a.improwise753
    @bonecrushra.k.a.improwise753 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:31 wolfs name's Sif...
    Dark Souls player confirmed.

  • @HeeYoo
    @HeeYoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    can't watch the video unless the bald man reacts to it

  • @TiltedSquare4
    @TiltedSquare4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    someone should make a video focused on asmon eyebrows and every time when it goes up, the video speeds up.

    • @Wowbeezz
      @Wowbeezz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enabling warp speed in 3...2...1...

  • @greenchilistudioz4537
    @greenchilistudioz4537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If every class is unique and not specs having defensives and be able perform any task needed, people will class stack and be like wow classic with all warriors

  • @ziplocktheimpostor1402
    @ziplocktheimpostor1402 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ??? Woahh wait since when can asmons eyebrows fly above my phone even ????
    Those are some serious legendary i.lvl trinkets asmon is wearin on his face.....🤣

  • @vikingjack9994
    @vikingjack9994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "they make it too easy!!"
    "i love that you can 1 stat things and be a god"
    asmon has more continuity errors then blizzard

    • @vikingjack9994
      @vikingjack9994 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brianviktor8212 what are you smoking, its verbetim what asmongold said. He cant make up his mind, and he cant follow through. Whatever is popular in chat is his current opinion and åpoint of view

    • @happypunky4129
      @happypunky4129 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vikingjack9994 I disagree given he can't even really see what chats saying due to the delay on streams, that, and he often has different reactions to things that chat goes on about, its actually the other way around- whatever he thinks is funny the chat thinks is funny, etc. He's also balding so he probly forgets his opinions every now and then.

  • @chapmanflorida5226
    @chapmanflorida5226 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    sarth 3d was done with void walker tank

  • @somethingwentwrong196
    @somethingwentwrong196 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    was expecting spiffing brit

  • @josefplacek4200
    @josefplacek4200 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why I play WoW on Project Ascension.
    Try it out guys, we just opened TBC. It´s a classless server, where you can build your own class, it has seasonal realms and more.

  • @24KaratQLD
    @24KaratQLD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Asmon: "Well this is a really good start"
    Me: 6 seconds in, buckled laughing and subbed. MY MAN!

  • @MichaelWilliams-lk6lf
    @MichaelWilliams-lk6lf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What you were saying at 26:17 i did that with a lvl 24 paladin had him a 7000 hp lol i work hard for that and love it i pull the whole room and now it all gone to shit