man that was literally my childhood, at age 9 installing the game without knowing anything about computer and they just don't care about us :( heartbreaking
@@NerdlySquared seriously, they can fix the game as long as they want, they milked the playerbase for so long, i couldnt care less at this point, activision, just like every big fish, buy other companies to milk em dry and then go bancrupt, thats how its always been, the support for blizzard wont change that.
If Blizzards game was good then people would en mass disregard this stream. At this point many people agree with this sentiment and its hard to convince them otherwise.
41:43 Rich's point is spot on. My wife played WoW and could never really get into it and she played FF14 2 weeks ago and has already logged 100 hours. I asked her what she liked compared to WoW, she likes the emotes, dye and glamour system(not the actual system, she prefers wows transmog UI, she likes the clothing options), and she likes the housing. Although she hasn't gotten a plot of land she really likes the idea of being able to customize your space and show it off to other players, she says it satisfies her love for Sims. I think WoW should try to get female players.
Final fantasy definitely has the women and the gays. It’s got pretty boys, story driven, fashionable clothes, housing community, there’s gonna be a stardew valley thing added, lalafells being adorable. Looking at Wow it’s only target audience is straight guys and their the target of most games.
As a gamer (who happens to be female) that has played both WoW and Final Fantasy XIV as well as many other MMOs, I can say the glamour options, housing, etc., certainly appeals to me, but I think this also appeals to a lot of people across the spectrum as well. FFXIV just allows for a lot more personal creativity and expression. I feel like my character is mine, not just a version of all of the other characters running about. FFXIV is built around the idea that being able to seek out more items and options to further customize your character is the REAL reward for playing the game, hence the popular saying in the FFXIV community that 'glamour is the true endgame', and yeah, these things happen to appeal to females. However, one of the other reasons why as a female gamer I prefer FFXIV is BECAUSE there are more female gamers who play FFXIV, and more diversity in general. As a result, the culture between FFXIV and other games, particularly WoW, is quite different. I'm not constantly reminded of my gender. I'm JUST a gamer. Its really nice in FFXIV to not feel like a guest or an outsider who has to constantly prove themselves by mere fact of being a female, which is how (I am sad to say) I've often felt in WoW. I suspect the larger female to male player ratio in FFXIV is a product of the feeling that JRPGs, especially the Final Fantasy franchise, have always seem to have been made with intent to have at least some marketing appeal to females, and thus, are more welcoming to female players. So, when FFXIV initially came out about ten years ago or so, it was also during a time when female gamers were still not very readily accepted in the gaming community, and very few games were marketed with any thought to female gamers. FFXIV was a bit of a unicorn in that aspect, so the original community founders had a generally more demographically diverse influence on how the community evolved.
Tell her to wait for Endwalker if she wants to get a house there It will have more plots of lands and a better system to get them There will also be a personal island in Endwalker (6.1) that you can use to raise animals, let your minions play with each other, and farm veggies (not sure if we can build houses there, but hopefully we can)
She will not be able to buy a plot for herself for a long time. You have not been able to by a plot and house for a long time and the only fix has been apts. Why do people keep bringing up a feature not currently available. Its offputting.
14 also does a really great job at not making the player feel like they’re super far behind if they log off for a day or two. Players can take time off and there’s no pressure to “catch up”. Blizzard, take notes.
I am already a week behind in the 9.1 patch... my interest to play the game now that I know I cannot compete with no one makes me not wanting to even try to log in.
this is actually a huge reason for the current wave of deserters, wow feels like a second job, most of the player base are working age adults that have grown up with wow, who wants to work 6+ hours a day, get home and feel forced to log into your second job, i could not log into ff14 for over a week and not be behind in anything. nothing feels forced, its a true themepark MMO
And the way 14 keeps the story/patch content relevant/required for MSQ means that the more time you take off, the more content you have waiting for you when you come back.
It's actually fairly easy to catch up in FF14 even if you take a couple of MONTHS off from playing. So, when a new patch is released they introduce a new dungeon and often a new Trial as well. In order to participate in those new dungeons/Trials, you often have to meet a minimum item level. There are a couple of different ways to meet that minimum item level. 1) If you do the Duty Roulettes as a job/class at level 70 or above, you will be rewarded with "Tomestones". You can turn in Tomestones to get good gear. There are several kinds of Tomestones, so I would recommend looking it up to get a better description. But you can turn in older Tomestones to a vendor and they will convert them into the newer kinds of Tomestones. 2) If you go through the highest item level dungeon you can get into, you will be rewarded with better ilvl gear than what you are likely wearing. You can basically just grind through those dungeons repeatedly until you get the item level you need. 3) You can get player-crafted gear. You can just BUY the appropriate ilvl gear from the Market Board (FF14's Auction Board). It can be somewhat pricey (I think I spent just a little under 1 million gil to get high ilvl gear), but crafted gear is just as viable as dungeon/raid gear.
I really feel like wow2 is going to have to happen to get the customization people want. WoW is so limited. Cant select your body shape in the least. Just that it's a male or female silhouette. They can't do anything about it either it seems like based on how the wow team talks about their engine.
On PvP in WoW, I was there in Vanilla before the honor system. The Darkshire v. Southshore battles were glorious. There were no rewards, but you'd get a message that a fight was going down and we'd all travel there. It was more fun than any official PvP WoW has ever implemented
having good titles and a varied titles be immersive. with XIV you will be called a variety of things, and not always 'warrior of light'. its always fun walking into Maelstrom Command and being referred to as "Lieutenant Featherlight" (character last name) by the basic NPCs and even named main story NPCs like Raubahn and Merlwyb. Since I earned that rank by grinding seals, turn ins, and doing dungeons, etc.
Another reason for trade unions in video game studios, those ppl making wow would be less scared to not accept every new bad system if their work was guaranteed.
They only hire/promote people who always agrees no matter what. Same thing at my job and probably everywhere else aswell. They're stroking their own dicks
I don't think they actually are the best encounter designers now I've tried some ff14 savage and ultimates. The savage and ultimate fights seem just way better designed than the wow raid tiers.
Never going beyond 8 people for that content is the key. They have such tight controls over what goes on and can distribute hefty amounts of responsibility to each person. Results in some really fun and nail-biting encounters. Ultimates are genuinely the most incredibly well-tuned and designed fights I have ever seen in a video game, period, and they didn't need a PTR to test them.
@@Auesis thing is blizzard had this in cata with 10H. But they pussied out since it was harder to tune for but not going to lie, those were the most fun times I’ve had raiding ever in WoW.
It is not hard to understand, actually, even though it's kind of hard to realize or notice at first. Many people, in many areas not just gaming (for example in the medical field, I was talking with my mom about this yesterday), are just plain stupid. Perhaps not necessarily in what they do specifically. Like a surgeon can have godly hands and cut you up like the finest piece of meat, just like Ion was a godlike raid designer. But then you put them to manage projects or be leads of something (or coordinators of ICU or directors of a hospital/clinic) and they just fuck it up. There's a reason why "PR" is a thing, there's a reason why human resources is a thing, etc. Not everyone, and I would even say not many people (within the average group of people) has intuition, awareness and selfconsciousness. And a lot of people who are conscious, often times can't even manage themselves. Like Bellular said, for a hammer everything is a nail. The thing is that nail was actually a screw and you needed a screwdriver. I also do not think it's legitimate and consciously on purpose thinking "ah yes, let's FUCK players up their arse". It's just a general trending mindset of mediocrity, anti progress, and auto-echo chamber of surrounding themselves with people who suck their dick for a sprinkle of a promotion or a bonus or whatever (or sometimes to get on with them) and they say yes to everything and play pretend. Meanwhile, whoever has a stronger will and conviction and know that doing things like that is bad, is cast out and treated like a maniac. Look at how they treat Asmon. It'd say it's counterintuitive to treat one of the most successful streamers and one of the most hardcore and oldest players you have in your base like a piece of shit. You can like him or dislike him, agree or disagree, but why would you not use him as a tool to get your game out there and make it better? PS: your NordVPN ad segway was FANTASTIC. You are a genius Rich.
One of the largest problems with WoW is they invalidate every raid tier but the new one. Instead of invalidating everything make three raid tiers relevant at one time. Give people a variety of raids they can do and use small catchup mechanisms to catch people up later to those three raids.
Corruption time gate. A theme park opens, and they plan to replace the rides every year. The tickets cost $2k and each grant yearly access to one of the rides, but each month you can only select from 3 of the 12 rides. As for world quests how about riding that wolf-serpent and pressing hold-on every time it speeds up?
Playing WoW retail feels today as being in a shitty, low paid job which you can't really leave because you worked there for a last 17 years and hope to get nice retirement package... also your skills, experience are so outdated that you would find hard time in any new job.
This whole episode had much more sinister undertones with the acti/blizz lawsuit. The whole video they talk about how something has to be going on behind the scenes affecting development. Guess we found out what lmao
HAHAHAHA as if not letting some women move up is the reason why rofl as if it's actually because all the old good devs hopped off blizzard years ago now its a money making machine not a beloved mmorpg
Oh no, they fired more woman than men?! Thats unacceptable. Its only okay if they fire more men than women in 2021, right? Imagine firing people based on performance without looking at their gender, what a crazy thought that would be right?! "oh no the poor women" - youre part of the problem. Stop white knighting without any insight. If they performed shit or were part of a team thats not needed anymore, whats wrong with that? Should they be immune to being fired because they are women? Go fuck yourself.
Bahamut bring the calamity to Eorzia, erased FF14 1.0... At this rate, if blizz do not pay attention, he might finish Deathwing's job and wasteland Azeroth... including all the 5 players on the shard/layer...
I think WoW has even missed its opportunity to ARR Azeroth at this point. They've trashed the lore and the world so much I don't think there is anything left to salvage.
@@hallo-mt5tx Honestly? I thought the perfect opportunity was last expansion. Having the Old Gods succeed in getting a tiny bit of corruption past the great seal before it healed, infecting the world. Leaving you with the Heart as the last pure bit of Azeroth. The entire end of the world sequence from FFXIV 1.0, or the Zeratul last stand sequence from Wings of Liberty, could fit in perfectly as a final raid, and you're protecting a ritual to send the Heart back in time to the start of WoW. It gets found by our new player characters and they get a vision of the future they have to avert. WoW 2.0. Now? Now it's too far gone. Shadowlands has pulled so much stuff right out its rear end, screwed with the cosmology so much, trashed so much lore and so many characters, that I don't think it can be recovered. If the Jailer wins, the new world is unrecognizable. Nothing connects it to Azeroth anymore, which is the whole point of making a rebirth of it.
Fun fact the people from 1.0 are legacy players, this people have Unique stuff like: Sub perma discount. Be in the credits. Unique mount. Unique dialog.
@@davidhoffert3652 You would want the NEW developers playing FFXIV. Not the OLD developers that have no contribution to EoW I'm not saying older developers playing FFXIV is bad, but their enjoyment and experience has no contribution to the state or change of WoW.
One thing that's funny is that things like blink have been in the game literally forever but you still end up with necrotic wake where for so long you couldn't blink in the necropolis. You have venthyr teleport where you can't teleport to 70% of the rocks that exist in the game even though DH can jump there or goblins can rocket there or you can disengage there. Why does the ability exist if it's so broken?
I'm gunna throw it out there after watching the whole thing. Bellular needs to be the 3rd presenter. He's been a fantastic guest, but his incredible knowledge is exceptionally useful and he should be in every single episode moving forward.
1:49:00 jupiter ascending is ultimate new-to-scifi gateway film: "what part did you like? the spice? cool, here's dune." "the city? cool, here's dark city." etc.
I honestly think folks are just getting tired of wow finally. A lot of things discussed in this has been true of blizzard and wow for well over a decade.
Its not that, people got tired of WoW in the past, i don't remember the time that i played more than 3 months in a row, i always made breaks and raidlogged. Problem now is that players finally have a worthy alternative, back then when i got tired of it i played Dota or total war games, now there are viable MMOs and some can scratch that itch better than WoW.
I had my first wtf moment in the story in WoW during BfA, when Azshara just randomly talked about stealing the tidestone from dalaran... Nice plot hole Blizzard.
The response New World gave for the cash shop was complete bullshit and actually insulting to player intelligence... I don't give them any points for their "excuses" on why pay4convinience is ok and a battle pass with possible pay2win rewards and boosts is healthy for the game... Can't believe asmon and rich actually gave them props foir that...
@@BaltoSojnekah As long as the dislike is aimed at Amazon. I have a friend in the team making New World. And their creation experience is not fun right now. Amazon is mismanaging them and handling the planning of the game by short term goals rather than long term plans.
of course they're ok with it, how long has the wow token been in the game. I mean with the amount of boosters you can basically just pay real money to be BiS, and beat the entire game in PvP, M+, and raid
Maybe, Blizzard should stop announcing their expansions and what is going to be in them, until the content they're announcing is actually in a good state and fun and ready for that release, rather than having an alpha and beta where they basically put them out completely unready. There's something to be said, for simply...hiring good QA and paying QA, and making sure your shit is in order, rather than having a beta/alpha test by a bunch of players that you don't listen to.
Yas! I figured out how to get back into my square enix account today. Azeroth is getting lame it's time to go back to Eorzea! Side note I've been a mostly active sub for WoW since 2007. There is not much to defend. I'm also a shareholder and I plan on selling those stocks Monday.
Here's a pretty unpopular take but, while they released an allied race or two in bfa and you get a new item or two you gotta farm for and can integrate into your mogs. What has blizzard actually done for roleplayers? They have dedicated rp servers which are unmoderated, all support comes from player made addons and all toys, reflecting prisms and potions that do effect rp and make it more interesting are a grindfest or dont even work cause the cd is higher than the duration. What's up with that?
Watching this now after seeing all the recent stuff that has went down with blizzard. I think it is safe to say that it is not that they don't know how to make a rewarding game. It is that the culture in the studios didn't allow for the the opportunity to actually make something good
You guys, FF 14 has literally ruined every MMO on my PC. I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm used having a marker to tell me how to get to my quest and sometimes I get lost and frustrated. And then the game charms the shit out of me. I just can't stay mad at you FF 14!
i feel like when ff makes new tools and systems they make it to use them now and further down the road, while blizzard makes new tools and systems they throw in the trash when they make a new xpack just to make new tools and systems for that xpack
Blizzard just isn't that company full of artists and designers that are working together to make great games where all of them have this massive drive to do that now that passion just doesn't exist and if you work there you know it's all about making money and you know making a high quality game is not the priority anymore
The passion to make games has been replaced by pride. Legacy has been carrying this company for the past 10 years and it's been going downhill more and more since then. There's competition that has all of their games actually beat now, be it Hack & slash, Moba, Cardgames, FPS and even MMO now. No king rules forever has never been any truer :(
Really simple to fix these issues with Torghast from a design point... create 'hero class' archetypes, have players pick one of several weapons that come with a couple of their own abilities and then offer them more skill choices as they build up their hotbar(s) and then offer them augments for those skills. Having players walk in there with one of 33 already established specs constrains the potential.
easy way to fix torghast..... when you enter a floor you are stripped of everything as far as abilities and get to start with 3 torghast only abilities and you build from there and introduce powers that have the same animations as your classes abilities but maybe it does an extra effect that way you are constantly evolving your builds based on the first 3 that you get in the start. Also the developers have more leeway on difficulty because you do not have access to all your spells inside torghast.
Lets be honest it's compartmentalized. Some artists get given a concept and told to design a mount. Then they take the best one and put a pay wall behind it. Few of them know what they're making or why before it's created.
Has a point about the game should be made easier to purchase ( ffxiv ) i bought EU complete edition by mistake ( mog station version ).. btw if anyone wants to trade for an NA one, lmk ~ or if anyone wants it for 15 euro
Bellular needs to be on the allcraftshow more often. If nothing else at least make it an annual event. This is like when brad pit and leonardo finally made a movie together, lol
It's so wierd, these three man can come up with a story that make more sense in a segment of a 2,5 hours long podcast, then the wow development team use 2 years.
27:50 I've been saying this since TBC came out: an expansion should EXPAND the game, not make everything that came before totally irrelevant nor should it remove content like CATA did. Either the game should have expanded upon vanilla's foundations OR Devs should have embraced in full the new-content-is-the-only-content concept and have ALL players, old and new alike, move to the newest expansion as if the previous never even existed (aside for turning into time walking content for transmog), leveling AND gearing up only in new content & narrative.
In "Legion" the world PvP was awesome! we had 5 or 6 little PvP world quests. That felt engaging and fun you could use all your gizmos and toys to fight. What made it even better was that you could also fight against your own faction! GOOD TIMES!
When Yoshi P is praising WoW for its inspiration and talking about “when it was in its prime”, it’s over for WoW. It will take a serious expansion to bring ppl back! And that’s a long way out.
question: does FF have cross-server group matching? Does FF have sharding ? Rich talks at the end that he recognized people he knew. Do all players on 1 server of FF stay on that server and play together? You know... as it should be ?
cross-server grouping - yes (within datacenter) for both party finder and duty/raid finder (automated queue system), sharding - no, all players on server stay on server - yes. you can visit another server but you cannot access a lot of stuff on non-home world (selling to other players, guilds,...) so it is really just a visit and you'll come back to your server soon EDIT: I forgot to mention you actually have to trigger the server visit. by default you are always on your home server
Its sad to see blizzard just going in a downward spiral just ruining their games. Not just WoW but some of their other games. Its so hard to enjoy them anymore when they add features and patches with content nobody wants/enjoys. And people are jumping ship before it sinks.
Oh man, I just got to 45 minutes from the end of this and the three of you talking about skilling and RuneScape adjacent systems that feel good and I just have to say; I’ve been playing ffxiv for years, and I picked up crafting last week, and holy shit you guys have got to try crafting.
The biggest problem with NW is there no excarcicity of resources. After 1~3 months everyone wil have all crafting skills maxed out, and will have plenty of resources. And then the whole crafting gonna become obsolote.
I will never forget logging in during 8.3 after not playing for a looooong time. I got my first piece of corruption gear, and suddenly everything I did periodically triggered things trying to kill me. I had absolutely no idea what was going on as a wow veteran, the game did not help me through this situation it had created at all, and i very seriously could not play my character in a meaningful way. My boyfriend finally told me I had to go do a quest chain to get some cloak to protect me. What the fuck? Why? How is that fun? I logged off until SL, played for a month, I'm done forever now finally after 15 years.
I'd like an MMO without quests (I'm sick and tired of questhubbing, of killing 10 of this and running to the 4 corners of the map to click some obnoxious thing), where I can just make my own story. Where my gear or mount tell what I've done, where it's more about upgrading and finetuning that gear and not about looting new gear every minute of the game. Where choices in professions/class/gear/factions are loooong roads to be walked and eventually end up in their own specific niche of the game. Where playing an alt actually means having a completely different game experience. Where my standing with towns or people changes the way they act towards me or opens up new features. Where a journey means preparing food/water, and plotting out a course on the map in an enourmous world, planning where to sleep, reprovision, what I'll explore, with each point I plot out adding another half hour playtime to the journey. Exploring remote regions would be an undertaking that takes days or weeks (you could log out in your tent on the way). I want skills and weapons to level and animations to become smoother or change as I reach mastery in them over a loooong period of time. I want to have knowledge of the world and enemies, that increases as I explore and battle and it having an effect, f.i. after you've battled 1000 of a certain mob, and you have mastery of a certain weapon, you could basically oneshot those mobs with said weapon, whereas before it would require some battle. (Maybe it could even have a system where you can micromanage your skills to target certain bodyparts, which would be important for material gathering OR you could set it up to chop off heads or perform killing blows on certain mobs you've mastered) After you've mastered all the mobs of a certain race, you gain certain advantages when battling bosses of that race. Lastly, if at all possible, get out of the melee/magic/fantasy trope, and actually give us something fresh.
Runescape 2's quests are nothing like wow's attempts at quests. Wow is the exception, not the rule. The clones of this bad game and its additive chemical creation don't count as separate video games.
Now that I have read your whole comment I can leave a better comment worthy of your eyes. You just described the entire appeal of virtual reality and what it means to live in a world opposed to watching your character play in it. You're absolutely correct. We, the players, should feel that a cooking skill is just as interesting and interactive as combat is. Blacksmithing should become more like a mini-game than a skill. Where you hit the molten metal, how you hit it, and your skill determine the quality of the item you made. Where failure is more the player's fault than a random number that was rolled. But, in such a world where travel is another important aspect of the video game, similar to dungeons, there would definitely quests. The purpose of quests is primarily to reward the player for all their hard work in game more so defining their character. It is true that wow has ignored their purpose and used them as bags of experienced to level up your character.. But they aren't the only game with quests. They weren't even the first! Other video games, such as Runescape (2), use quests for their intended purpose. If it didn't exist before than blizzard couldn't copy it. There is a saying, "Runescaoe has the best quests" and they also have the best original content, too. Not only that but you can play it for free. There is a subscription and free version. What other things would you like to see in an MMORPG of your dreams?
@@dakotashroom5401 Thx for your reply :) I'm not per se against quests, but I would rather only have a few overarching questlines that send you off in a certain direction, or have them in the form of say "stories or legends", where you don't really pick up a quest with tasks to complete, but where conversations with npc or books hint at clues you could follow up on, and that could even have wildly different outcomes for different players as they go about it in different ways, depending if you found all the clues, learned all the skills the "quest" allowed you to learn if you followed the clues properly. Maybe players would need an interactive journal, where the journal would offer permanent choices to the player based on knowledge acquired. To be truly awesome, there would need to be some kind of emergent outcomes depending on which "switches you decided to flip". Lastly, although I love really good set piece dungeons, procedurally generated "dungeons" would be amazing.
Put my favorite guy Rich in-between two of my other favorite guys Asmongold and Bellular. They clashed on what they wanted to say a few times, but Rich, the transition master, saved it!
Wows engine is extremely hard to customize, most stuff is hardcoded and would require a total remake of the engine if changed. The Wow Emu community have tried to change stuff for years within the engine, with only a small success.
It was proven that blizz have no respect for warcraft when they released Warcraft: Reforged
Yup that's what I was thinking too. Trash remake
I really looked forward to that remake too but was severely disappointed
man that was literally my childhood, at age 9 installing the game without knowing anything about computer and they just don't care about us :( heartbreaking
@@dacbiet I expected nothing and was still disappointed
@virtue it's still extremely easy to acquire classic w3, just torrent it.
It's not like anyone sane wants to give money to blizz anyway
This single stream probably cost Blizzard so many subs.
Isn’t it great?
They did this to themselves
@@NerdlySquared seriously, they can fix the game as long as they want, they milked the playerbase for so long, i couldnt care less at this point, activision, just like every big fish, buy other companies to milk em dry and then go bancrupt, thats how its always been, the support for blizzard wont change that.
If Blizzards game was good then people would en mass disregard this stream. At this point many people agree with this sentiment and its hard to convince them otherwise.
Yeeeep
41:43 Rich's point is spot on. My wife played WoW and could never really get into it and she played FF14 2 weeks ago and has already logged 100 hours. I asked her what she liked compared to WoW, she likes the emotes, dye and glamour system(not the actual system, she prefers wows transmog UI, she likes the clothing options), and she likes the housing. Although she hasn't gotten a plot of land she really likes the idea of being able to customize your space and show it off to other players, she says it satisfies her love for Sims. I think WoW should try to get female players.
Final fantasy definitely has the women and the gays. It’s got pretty boys, story driven, fashionable clothes, housing community, there’s gonna be a stardew valley thing added, lalafells being adorable. Looking at Wow it’s only target audience is straight guys and their the target of most games.
As a gamer (who happens to be female) that has played both WoW and Final Fantasy XIV as well as many other MMOs, I can say the glamour options, housing, etc., certainly appeals to me, but I think this also appeals to a lot of people across the spectrum as well. FFXIV just allows for a lot more personal creativity and expression. I feel like my character is mine, not just a version of all of the other characters running about. FFXIV is built around the idea that being able to seek out more items and options to further customize your character is the REAL reward for playing the game, hence the popular saying in the FFXIV community that 'glamour is the true endgame', and yeah, these things happen to appeal to females.
However, one of the other reasons why as a female gamer I prefer FFXIV is BECAUSE there are more female gamers who play FFXIV, and more diversity in general. As a result, the culture between FFXIV and other games, particularly WoW, is quite different. I'm not constantly reminded of my gender. I'm JUST a gamer. Its really nice in FFXIV to not feel like a guest or an outsider who has to constantly prove themselves by mere fact of being a female, which is how (I am sad to say) I've often felt in WoW. I suspect the larger female to male player ratio in FFXIV is a product of the feeling that JRPGs, especially the Final Fantasy franchise, have always seem to have been made with intent to have at least some marketing appeal to females, and thus, are more welcoming to female players. So, when FFXIV initially came out about ten years ago or so, it was also during a time when female gamers were still not very readily accepted in the gaming community, and very few games were marketed with any thought to female gamers. FFXIV was a bit of a unicorn in that aspect, so the original community founders had a generally more demographically diverse influence on how the community evolved.
Tell her to wait for Endwalker if she wants to get a house there
It will have more plots of lands and a better system to get them
There will also be a personal island in Endwalker (6.1) that you can use to raise animals, let your minions play with each other, and farm veggies (not sure if we can build houses there, but hopefully we can)
She can buy an apartment and get a small taste of housing.
She will not be able to buy a plot for herself for a long time. You have not been able to by a plot and house for a long time and the only fix has been apts. Why do people keep bringing up a feature not currently available. Its offputting.
Can't believe Asmon reacted to Bellubar for 2.5 hours straight!
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True! Best comment thus far.
Get Koji Fox on the show, I'd love to see you guys talk to him.
14 also does a really great job at not making the player feel like they’re super far behind if they log off for a day or two. Players can take time off and there’s no pressure to “catch up”. Blizzard, take notes.
I am already a week behind in the 9.1 patch... my interest to play the game now that I know I cannot compete with no one makes me not wanting to even try to log in.
this is actually a huge reason for the current wave of deserters, wow feels like a second job, most of the player base are working age adults that have grown up with wow, who wants to work 6+ hours a day, get home and feel forced to log into your second job, i could not log into ff14 for over a week and not be behind in anything. nothing feels forced, its a true themepark MMO
And the way 14 keeps the story/patch content relevant/required for MSQ means that the more time you take off, the more content you have waiting for you when you come back.
@@GimlraK how lol you can catch up just fine
It's actually fairly easy to catch up in FF14 even if you take a couple of MONTHS off from playing.
So, when a new patch is released they introduce a new dungeon and often a new Trial as well. In order to participate in those new dungeons/Trials, you often have to meet a minimum item level. There are a couple of different ways to meet that minimum item level.
1) If you do the Duty Roulettes as a job/class at level 70 or above, you will be rewarded with "Tomestones". You can turn in Tomestones to get good gear.
There are several kinds of Tomestones, so I would recommend looking it up to get a better description. But you can turn in older Tomestones to a vendor and they will convert them into the newer kinds of Tomestones.
2) If you go through the highest item level dungeon you can get into, you will be rewarded with better ilvl gear than what you are likely wearing. You can basically just grind through those dungeons repeatedly until you get the item level you need.
3) You can get player-crafted gear. You can just BUY the appropriate ilvl gear from the Market Board (FF14's Auction Board). It can be somewhat pricey (I think I spent just a little under 1 million gil to get high ilvl gear), but crafted gear is just as viable as dungeon/raid gear.
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As a girl who plays WoW and has been getting into FF14, I really do appreciate and confirm that the customization helps.
grill btw
I really feel like wow2 is going to have to happen to get the customization people want. WoW is so limited. Cant select your body shape in the least. Just that it's a male or female silhouette. They can't do anything about it either it seems like based on how the wow team talks about their engine.
On PvP in WoW, I was there in Vanilla before the honor system. The Darkshire v. Southshore battles were glorious. There were no rewards, but you'd get a message that a fight was going down and we'd all travel there. It was more fun than any official PvP WoW has ever implemented
having good titles and a varied titles be immersive. with XIV you will be called a variety of things, and not always 'warrior of light'. its always fun walking into Maelstrom Command and being referred to as "Lieutenant Featherlight" (character last name) by the basic NPCs and even named main story NPCs like Raubahn and Merlwyb. Since I earned that rank by grinding seals, turn ins, and doing dungeons, etc.
Another reason for trade unions in video game studios, those ppl making wow would be less scared to not accept every new bad system if their work was guaranteed.
Tell that to the France Branch. What French branch you ask?
They only hire/promote people who always agrees no matter what. Same thing at my job and probably everywhere else aswell. They're stroking their own dicks
I don't think they actually are the best encounter designers now I've tried some ff14 savage and ultimates. The savage and ultimate fights seem just way better designed than the wow raid tiers.
Never going beyond 8 people for that content is the key. They have such tight controls over what goes on and can distribute hefty amounts of responsibility to each person. Results in some really fun and nail-biting encounters. Ultimates are genuinely the most incredibly well-tuned and designed fights I have ever seen in a video game, period, and they didn't need a PTR to test them.
@@Auesis thing is blizzard had this in cata with 10H. But they pussied out since it was harder to tune for but not going to lie, those were the most fun times I’ve had raiding ever in WoW.
@@Auesis Yea I mean you can pick any savage and its near comparable to the last mythic bosses in a wow raid tier, the hard ones.
Presentation is such a heavy weight.
@@Auesis Yep, that's what i love most about FF's raids, the 8 man raid size is awesome.
"there are issues inside of blizzard effecting development" This aged well
If only legitimate game developers were there than there wouldn't be these unnecessary problems.
It is not hard to understand, actually, even though it's kind of hard to realize or notice at first. Many people, in many areas not just gaming (for example in the medical field, I was talking with my mom about this yesterday), are just plain stupid. Perhaps not necessarily in what they do specifically. Like a surgeon can have godly hands and cut you up like the finest piece of meat, just like Ion was a godlike raid designer. But then you put them to manage projects or be leads of something (or coordinators of ICU or directors of a hospital/clinic) and they just fuck it up. There's a reason why "PR" is a thing, there's a reason why human resources is a thing, etc. Not everyone, and I would even say not many people (within the average group of people) has intuition, awareness and selfconsciousness. And a lot of people who are conscious, often times can't even manage themselves.
Like Bellular said, for a hammer everything is a nail. The thing is that nail was actually a screw and you needed a screwdriver. I also do not think it's legitimate and consciously on purpose thinking "ah yes, let's FUCK players up their arse".
It's just a general trending mindset of mediocrity, anti progress, and auto-echo chamber of surrounding themselves with people who suck their dick for a sprinkle of a promotion or a bonus or whatever (or sometimes to get on with them) and they say yes to everything and play pretend. Meanwhile, whoever has a stronger will and conviction and know that doing things like that is bad, is cast out and treated like a maniac. Look at how they treat Asmon. It'd say it's counterintuitive to treat one of the most successful streamers and one of the most hardcore and oldest players you have in your base like a piece of shit. You can like him or dislike him, agree or disagree, but why would you not use him as a tool to get your game out there and make it better?
PS: your NordVPN ad segway was FANTASTIC. You are a genius Rich.
What if you had a base mount that you could upgrade based on your acomplishments in the game?
You mean like chocobo barding?
"He seems like he's smoking meth", man Rich is great lol
Seriously 😂 got a belly laugh out of me
One of the largest problems with WoW is they invalidate every raid tier but the new one. Instead of invalidating everything make three raid tiers relevant at one time. Give people a variety of raids they can do and use small catchup mechanisms to catch people up later to those three raids.
Really loved this Allcraft, appreciate you both and Bellular getting together again finally. It's been too long.
Corruption time gate. A theme park opens, and they plan to replace the rides every year. The tickets cost $2k and each grant yearly access to one of the rides, but each month you can only select from 3 of the 12 rides.
As for world quests how about riding that wolf-serpent and pressing hold-on every time it speeds up?
Playing WoW retail feels today as being in a shitty, low paid job which you can't really leave because you worked there for a last 17 years and hope to get nice retirement package... also your skills, experience are so outdated that you would find hard time in any new job.
That Nord VPN insert was so smooth, no Vaseline required LOL!
fk dude. right? Rich really nailed that-- and that follow-up from Bellular just blew me away. LOL
@@jnesis555 true dude
Lol am at work and this made me literally laugh out loud.
When you roll a Nat 20 on your Persuasion check.
So smooth she didn’t even feel it
The most ambitious crossover ever
Not even in Endgame.
This whole episode had much more sinister undertones with the acti/blizz lawsuit. The whole video they talk about how something has to be going on behind the scenes affecting development. Guess we found out what lmao
HAHAHAHA as if not letting some women move up is the reason why rofl as if it's actually because all the old good devs hopped off blizzard years ago now its a money making machine not a beloved mmorpg
Oh no, they fired more woman than men?! Thats unacceptable. Its only okay if they fire more men than women in 2021, right?
Imagine firing people based on performance without looking at their gender, what a crazy thought that would be right?!
"oh no the poor women" - youre part of the problem. Stop white knighting without any insight.
If they performed shit or were part of a team thats not needed anymore, whats wrong with that? Should they be immune to being fired because they are women?
Go fuck yourself.
@@capitaldcolon1795 Lmao hit the meth pipe again
I miss having alts. Genuine alts that were pretty well geared that didn’t require a second life to get meaningfully geared.
Bahamut bring the calamity to Eorzia, erased FF14 1.0...
At this rate, if blizz do not pay attention, he might finish Deathwing's job and wasteland Azeroth... including all the 5 players on the shard/layer...
I think WoW has even missed its opportunity to ARR Azeroth at this point. They've trashed the lore and the world so much I don't think there is anything left to salvage.
@@Skyblade12 the jailer winning is the perfect opportunity i think
but there is no way its happening
@@hallo-mt5tx Honestly? I thought the perfect opportunity was last expansion. Having the Old Gods succeed in getting a tiny bit of corruption past the great seal before it healed, infecting the world. Leaving you with the Heart as the last pure bit of Azeroth. The entire end of the world sequence from FFXIV 1.0, or the Zeratul last stand sequence from Wings of Liberty, could fit in perfectly as a final raid, and you're protecting a ritual to send the Heart back in time to the start of WoW. It gets found by our new player characters and they get a vision of the future they have to avert. WoW 2.0.
Now? Now it's too far gone. Shadowlands has pulled so much stuff right out its rear end, screwed with the cosmology so much, trashed so much lore and so many characters, that I don't think it can be recovered. If the Jailer wins, the new world is unrecognizable. Nothing connects it to Azeroth anymore, which is the whole point of making a rebirth of it.
Fun fact the people from 1.0 are legacy players, this people have Unique stuff like:
Sub perma discount.
Be in the credits.
Unique mount.
Unique dialog.
@@elbirri also unique title and a unique neck tattoo
you know there's something seriously wrong when you see old World of Warcraft Developers playing FFXIV instead of WOW
You...want this right? Just like ffxiv developers went to blizzard when making 2.0 and were playing wow.
@@davidhoffert3652 You would want the NEW developers playing FFXIV. Not the OLD developers that have no contribution to EoW
I'm not saying older developers playing FFXIV is bad, but their enjoyment and experience has no contribution to the state or change of WoW.
Who
@@agentgrey5696 Kevin Jordan for example
One thing that's funny is that things like blink have been in the game literally forever but you still end up with necrotic wake where for so long you couldn't blink in the necropolis. You have venthyr teleport where you can't teleport to 70% of the rocks that exist in the game even though DH can jump there or goblins can rocket there or you can disengage there. Why does the ability exist if it's so broken?
13:30 if you're looking for Nord VPN moment
Rich actually inserted that so perfectly. TH-camrs have nothing on him
dude, that was soooooo smooth
Thank you so much, I searched for that.
I'm gunna throw it out there after watching the whole thing. Bellular needs to be the 3rd presenter. He's been a fantastic guest, but his incredible knowledge is exceptionally useful and he should be in every single episode moving forward.
Or at least have a segment. I imagine a news room when they throw it over to the sports or weather guy haha
1:49:00 jupiter ascending is ultimate new-to-scifi gateway film: "what part did you like? the spice? cool, here's dune." "the city? cool, here's dark city." etc.
Smooth transition into the sponsorship, well played by all.
well just over a week later and now we know some of the story on what is going wrong internally with blizzard...
I honestly think folks are just getting tired of wow finally. A lot of things discussed in this has been true of blizzard and wow for well over a decade.
This is why so many people play Runescape (2), a far better MMORPG.
Its not that, people got tired of WoW in the past, i don't remember the time that i played more than 3 months in a row, i always made breaks and raidlogged. Problem now is that players finally have a worthy alternative, back then when i got tired of it i played Dota or total war games, now there are viable MMOs and some can scratch that itch better than WoW.
I had my first wtf moment in the story in WoW during BfA, when Azshara just randomly talked about stealing the tidestone from dalaran... Nice plot hole Blizzard.
That nordvpn segway was honestly the best I've seen yet hahaha!
Almist Internet Historian level
it's segue, a segway is something a mall cop rides
@@familiarstranger2080 I was using voice to text when I wrote this. But I'm sure people still knew what I meant.
The response New World gave for the cash shop was complete bullshit and actually insulting to player intelligence... I don't give them any points for their "excuses" on why pay4convinience is ok and a battle pass with possible pay2win rewards and boosts is healthy for the game... Can't believe asmon and rich actually gave them props foir that...
It's like thanking the person for wiping your mouth after they just shit in it
Dude, New World is produced by Amazon Games. We should shit in their mouths. Fuck amazon. Nothing good will come from playing that game.
@@BaltoSojnekah As long as the dislike is aimed at Amazon. I have a friend in the team making New World. And their creation experience is not fun right now. Amazon is mismanaging them and handling the planning of the game by short term goals rather than long term plans.
of course they're ok with it, how long has the wow token been in the game. I mean with the amount of boosters you can basically just pay real money to be BiS, and beat the entire game in PvP, M+, and raid
Maybe, Blizzard should stop announcing their expansions and what is going to be in them, until the content they're announcing is actually in a good state and fun and ready for that release, rather than having an alpha and beta where they basically put them out completely unready. There's something to be said, for simply...hiring good QA and paying QA, and making sure your shit is in order, rather than having a beta/alpha test by a bunch of players that you don't listen to.
Cause if its going to take longer it means investors need to wait and thats a no no
Yas! I figured out how to get back into my square enix account today. Azeroth is getting lame it's time to go back to Eorzea! Side note I've been a mostly active sub for WoW since 2007. There is not much to defend. I'm also a shareholder and I plan on selling those stocks Monday.
Here's a pretty unpopular take but, while they released an allied race or two in bfa and you get a new item or two you gotta farm for and can integrate into your mogs.
What has blizzard actually done for roleplayers?
They have dedicated rp servers which are unmoderated, all support comes from player made addons and all toys, reflecting prisms and potions that do effect rp and make it more interesting are a grindfest or dont even work cause the cd is higher than the duration.
What's up with that?
Blizzard pandered to furries instead.
@@Gunplabro Right now blizzard seems to pander to noone but the m+ and raiding crowd and it shows o3o
Watching this now after seeing all the recent stuff that has went down with blizzard. I think it is safe to say that it is not that they don't know how to make a rewarding game. It is that the culture in the studios didn't allow for the the opportunity to actually make something good
Logger back into wow aften 4months off… then i got the itch, ended up in korthia, then I logged out when I had to do torgast again.
You guys, FF 14 has literally ruined every MMO on my PC. I'm not saying it's perfect. I'm used having a marker to tell me how to get to my quest and sometimes I get lost and frustrated. And then the game charms the shit out of me. I just can't stay mad at you FF 14!
Said quite well--when you hire theorycrafters and high-end players what content do expect to get.
There’s actually an add on which makes the WoW quests as they do in final fantasy and it’s actually really cool, and makes it more immersive.
i feel like when ff makes new tools and systems they make it to use them now and further down the road, while blizzard makes new tools and systems they throw in the trash when they make a new xpack just to make new tools and systems for that xpack
Dude this went so fast, I could listen to a 5 hour version easily.
Blizzard just isn't that company full of artists and designers that are working together to make great games where all of them have this massive drive to do that
now that passion just doesn't exist and if you work there you know it's all about making money and you know making a high quality game is not the priority anymore
The passion to make games has been replaced by pride.
Legacy has been carrying this company for the past 10 years and it's been going downhill more and more since then.
There's competition that has all of their games actually beat now, be it Hack & slash, Moba, Cardgames, FPS and even MMO now.
No king rules forever has never been any truer :(
"Putting a modifiable armor on horses is hard"
Stares in chocobo bardings
Really simple to fix these issues with Torghast from a design point... create 'hero class' archetypes, have players pick one of several weapons that come with a couple of their own abilities and then offer them more skill choices as they build up their hotbar(s) and then offer them augments for those skills. Having players walk in there with one of 33 already established specs constrains the potential.
Imagine logging on to a game you want to play, not begrudgingly feel the need too....
I no longer have to imagine 😀
"Imagine if we could go into a rock-hard version of... I dunno, Shadowmoon Burial Grounds? That'd be sweet!"
What, you mean like a CHALLENGE MODE?!
easy way to fix torghast..... when you enter a floor you are stripped of everything as far as abilities and get to start with 3 torghast only abilities and you build from there and introduce powers that have the same animations as your classes abilities but maybe it does an extra effect that way you are constantly evolving your builds based on the first 3 that you get in the start. Also the developers have more leeway on difficulty because you do not have access to all your spells inside torghast.
Bellular on Allcraft: REAL SHIT?!
Dadmongold on Allcraft: REAL REAL SHIT?!
Lets be honest it's compartmentalized.
Some artists get given a concept and told to design a mount.
Then they take the best one and put a pay wall behind it.
Few of them know what they're making or why before it's created.
The wow dev team should watch this and take notes.
Has a point about the game should be made easier to purchase ( ffxiv )
i bought EU complete edition by mistake ( mog station version ).. btw if anyone wants to trade for an NA one, lmk ~ or if anyone wants it for 15 euro
Should be easier to find someone through some of the gameswapping subreddits. That’s how I dealt with my EU codes before.
Is that including upcoming expansion? If so I can take it :)
DM me on twitter @martinessentia2
Rich's segues into ads gets me every time. xD
Spent my days off work dueling all day in front of Org between Qs on Illidan-US from late vanilla until cata was over.
Bellular needs to be on the allcraftshow more often. If nothing else at least make it an annual event. This is like when brad pit and leonardo finally made a movie together, lol
Rich hit the nail on the head that old content in FF never really dies, always stays relevant.
Shoutout to Asmons Dad, that man is fucking hilarious.
Yea, i saw him one time on other stream for a bit longer, he is so great.
Not his real dad
@@agentgrey5696 He is, what do you mean? He even look like older version of asmongold, theres not even room for conspiracy...
Been waiting for this episode to happen for years now! It delivered with spades. Well done gents! Great episode.
Thanks so much, Asmongold, for helping me see the light and I can finally say I will not go back to playing WoW, even if my kids beg me to.
The episode we've all been waiting for
It's good to 'finally' see you heading towards the 'light'.
Amazing show! for the first time we have all of you together (sorry about english)
Your English is fine. 🙂
13:37 he sees it coming, oh boy
Hi Rich, where can I get that hat from? I've been asking all around the YMCA but they told me they would never wear anything that questionable 😔
"if you want to feel security, download Nord VPN" gods fucking damn it lol
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It's so wierd, these three man can come up with a story that make more sense in a segment of a 2,5 hours long podcast, then the wow development team use 2 years.
A quick tip to get the AA lines fixed up a little: Go into your graphic card settings and set negative LOD Bias to clamp
27:50 I've been saying this since TBC came out: an expansion should EXPAND the game, not make everything that came before totally irrelevant nor should it remove content like CATA did.
Either the game should have expanded upon vanilla's foundations OR Devs should have embraced in full the new-content-is-the-only-content concept and have ALL players, old and new alike, move to the newest expansion as if the previous never even existed (aside for turning into time walking content for transmog), leveling AND gearing up only in new content & narrative.
it reminds of my former co-workers being happy at their new job
In "Legion" the world PvP was awesome! we had 5 or 6 little PvP world quests. That felt engaging and fun you could use all your gizmos and toys to fight. What made it even better was that you could also fight against your own faction! GOOD TIMES!
The epitome of MMORPG talk.
This episode was awesome, I hope you can get him on the show more often
When Yoshi P is praising WoW for its inspiration and talking about “when it was in its prime”, it’s over for WoW. It will take a serious expansion to bring ppl back!
And that’s a long way out.
Shogun 2 is the only Total War game I come back to from time to time, nice to hear him shout out a game that is so good yet so relatively obscure.
They kept comparing New World to EVE Online when in reality Ashes of Creation is waaaay more like EVE Online 🤣
question: does FF have cross-server group matching? Does FF have sharding ? Rich talks at the end that he recognized people he knew. Do all players on 1 server of FF stay on that server and play together? You know... as it should be ?
cross-server grouping - yes (within datacenter) for both party finder and duty/raid finder (automated queue system),
sharding - no,
all players on server stay on server - yes. you can visit another server but you cannot access a lot of stuff on non-home world (selling to other players, guilds,...) so it is really just a visit and you'll come back to your server soon
EDIT: I forgot to mention you actually have to trigger the server visit. by default you are always on your home server
Time to rename the show. Allfantasy 👍
World of fantasy
Forld of Wartasy
But crafting is on another level in FF.
Baldfanfasy
FINALLCRAFT
he needs to be on more often, great show
Rich is the only person that has ever, consistently, been able to catch me off guard with his sponsorship ads. Get the bag king!
Its sad to see blizzard just going in a downward spiral just ruining their games. Not just WoW but some of their other games. Its so hard to enjoy them anymore when they add features and patches with content nobody wants/enjoys. And people are jumping ship before it sinks.
Wow that Nord VPN plug transition by Rich was as smooth as butter, nearly got me there legend.
Asmons idea of 'Customisable Mounts based on yer achievements' is an epic idea like epic mounts were EPIC! in vanilla!
FINALLY its here, been waiting to watch this after seeing it in asmon channel
Is it possible to get CC for these videos? Plz and thank you :)
Oh man, I just got to 45 minutes from the end of this and the three of you talking about skilling and RuneScape adjacent systems that feel good and I just have to say; I’ve been playing ffxiv for years, and I picked up crafting last week, and holy shit you guys have got to try crafting.
Rich is such a card
LMAO
my dude is literally crazy
The biggest problem with NW is there no excarcicity of resources. After 1~3 months everyone wil have all crafting skills maxed out, and will have plenty of resources. And then the whole crafting gonna become obsolote.
If we learned anything from the Loki series is that this is what happens when you mess up the timeline.
I will never forget logging in during 8.3 after not playing for a looooong time. I got my first piece of corruption gear, and suddenly everything I did periodically triggered things trying to kill me. I had absolutely no idea what was going on as a wow veteran, the game did not help me through this situation it had created at all, and i very seriously could not play my character in a meaningful way. My boyfriend finally told me I had to go do a quest chain to get some cloak to protect me. What the fuck? Why? How is that fun? I logged off until SL, played for a month, I'm done forever now finally after 15 years.
26:50 This world is a prison. The dev team crying out.
We need more streams like this where they actually interact non-biased of anything but the truth. Good job guys.
I'd like an MMO without quests (I'm sick and tired of questhubbing, of killing 10 of this and running to the 4 corners of the map to click some obnoxious thing), where I can just make my own story. Where my gear or mount tell what I've done, where it's more about upgrading and finetuning that gear and not about looting new gear every minute of the game. Where choices in professions/class/gear/factions are loooong roads to be walked and eventually end up in their own specific niche of the game. Where playing an alt actually means having a completely different game experience. Where my standing with towns or people changes the way they act towards me or opens up new features. Where a journey means preparing food/water, and plotting out a course on the map in an enourmous world, planning where to sleep, reprovision, what I'll explore, with each point I plot out adding another half hour playtime to the journey. Exploring remote regions would be an undertaking that takes days or weeks (you could log out in your tent on the way).
I want skills and weapons to level and animations to become smoother or change as I reach mastery in them over a loooong period of time.
I want to have knowledge of the world and enemies, that increases as I explore and battle and it having an effect, f.i. after you've battled 1000 of a certain mob, and you have mastery of a certain weapon, you could basically oneshot those mobs with said weapon, whereas before it would require some battle. (Maybe it could even have a system where you can micromanage your skills to target certain bodyparts, which would be important for material gathering OR you could set it up to chop off heads or perform killing blows on certain mobs you've mastered)
After you've mastered all the mobs of a certain race, you gain certain advantages when battling bosses of that race.
Lastly, if at all possible, get out of the melee/magic/fantasy trope, and actually give us something fresh.
Runescape 2's quests are nothing like wow's attempts at quests. Wow is the exception, not the rule. The clones of this bad game and its additive chemical creation don't count as separate video games.
Now that I have read your whole comment I can leave a better comment worthy of your eyes.
You just described the entire appeal of virtual reality and what it means to live in a world opposed to watching your character play in it. You're absolutely correct. We, the players, should feel that a cooking skill is just as interesting and interactive as combat is. Blacksmithing should become more like a mini-game than a skill. Where you hit the molten metal, how you hit it, and your skill determine the quality of the item you made. Where failure is more the player's fault than a random number that was rolled.
But, in such a world where travel is another important aspect of the video game, similar to dungeons, there would definitely quests.
The purpose of quests is primarily to reward the player for all their hard work in game more so defining their character. It is true that wow has ignored their purpose and used them as bags of experienced to level up your character.. But they aren't the only game with quests. They weren't even the first! Other video games, such as Runescape (2), use quests for their intended purpose. If it didn't exist before than blizzard couldn't copy it.
There is a saying, "Runescaoe has the best quests" and they also have the best original content, too. Not only that but you can play it for free. There is a subscription and free version.
What other things would you like to see in an MMORPG of your dreams?
@@dakotashroom5401 Thx for your reply :)
I'm not per se against quests, but I would rather only have a few overarching questlines that send you off in a certain direction, or have them in the form of say "stories or legends", where you don't really pick up a quest with tasks to complete, but where conversations with npc or books hint at clues you could follow up on, and that could even have wildly different outcomes for different players as they go about it in different ways, depending if you found all the clues, learned all the skills the "quest" allowed you to learn if you followed the clues properly.
Maybe players would need an interactive journal, where the journal would offer permanent choices to the player based on knowledge acquired.
To be truly awesome, there would need to be some kind of emergent outcomes depending on which "switches you decided to flip".
Lastly, although I love really good set piece dungeons, procedurally generated "dungeons" would be amazing.
You should check out a MMUD
Mage tower should be the same thing than Brawlers guild... Every exp we would have one in different patchs from each other
Put my favorite guy Rich in-between two of my other favorite guys Asmongold and Bellular. They clashed on what they wanted to say a few times, but Rich, the transition master, saved it!
Did they boot Hotted from allcraft?
Wows engine is extremely hard to customize, most stuff is hardcoded and would require a total remake of the engine if changed. The Wow Emu community have tried to change stuff for years within the engine, with only a small success.
Perfect timing! Just got back from my run, very excited for this one!