The reason elements turn into dragons according to generic fantasy lore is that dragons are the condensation of pure elemental power in a more perfect form.
The silverhand symbol actually fits really well. Tyr sacrificed his arm for the greater good and ultimately brought victory over evil to Azeroth. As such the hand symbolizes the victory and willingness to sacrifice for others sake.
I'm not if Blizzard had this in mind, but the part where Warcraft Tyr has his hand replaced with a silver prosthetic could also be a parallel to the Irish god Nuada (who has the epithet Airgetlám mean 'silver hand').
@@kaiyote7924 From what I had read, Norse Tyr never replaced his hand. Nuada, on the other hand, does replace his hand. Due to my shit proofreading skills, I forgot to add the word 'sure' to the first statement 'I'm not sure if Blizzard had this in mind'. The Nuada connection was just me putting two-and-two together.
Wait so.. the reason Dalaran is flying above Northrend is that the magic was severely weakened by Malygos.. so they somehow, with weakened magic powers, teleported a whole city right into the cave of the lion - where the Dragon Aspect of Magic was, who siphoned pretty much all the power to the Oculus - and kept it afloat (and apparently magically shielded, because how the hell did they not get instantly obliterated at that point?).. all while their magic was weakened? I think I need to go lie down.
I'm pretty sure once they got there being so close to the oculus increased their powers. How they managed to move the city with nerfs however, is beyond me.
6:30 I think the person who mentioned Cosmic Horror was referring to Lovecrafts works and how his abominations were rarely ever shown, just described. The sight of some of the old gods literally drove people insane at the mere sight of it, how do you show that in a videogame and have the same weight?
It's really hard to take any of this shit seriously when the WoW version of Eldritch beings are regularly curb stomped by people named things like Weedlordgoku or Sephirothuchiha
I remember finding the Ysera cinematic so fascinating. Was this our first glimpse of Elune? It opened up so many questions... but now we know she ended up in the Shadowlands. A fate worse than death.
Dude, that whole sequence of events made me more emotional than anything else in WoW. I was angry at Xavius, I was heartbroken when I had to kill Ysera, and I was in awe at the cinematic. I think it did actually bring a tear to my eye and I still get goosebumps watching it. Whoever was in charge of that quest line needs to be the narrative director, because it was awesome.
It's important to note that Deathwing pinned Gruul with one arm during their fight. He was actually pretty amused by him. The reason he ran away was because Khadgar loosened the plates on his body that almost made him fall apart while was distracted fighting Gruul.
you forgot how Korialstraz (Alexandra's Warcraft 1 and onwards Consort) basically helped Dalaran out for decades as an Archmage named Krasus. This is probs the best example of it being used for good. There are quite a few others though that one is the best example.
I wish they would use the Caverns of Time to give us more dungeons and raids based off of key moments in Warcraft history, and who knows maybe they could have the Bronze Dragonflight 'fix' the retcons that Shadowlands had introduced, Like for example: With the players now aware of how the Shadowlands function, the Jailor's existence and his plans, they bring this info back to the Dragon Aspects, and with it the Bronze Dragonflight are now able to look out for any unnoticed anomalies that could have been the Jailor changing the true timeline for it to be part of his influence.
Man I Wish Something Like The Caverns Of Time Was Brought Into The Elder Scrolls Series Like How The Dragonborn Could Go To The Past And Stop Uriel Septim VIIth's Death From Occuring And Also Makes Sure The Vestige Doesn't Die And Stop Molag Bal's Planemeld
Hey i kinda liked how the big dragon died! was refreshingly simple and realistic like all the little dragons couldnt beat the big guy and came up with a simple yet effective solution that they pulled off in a dire moment.. I kinda like it, not everything needs to be Michael bay shit hahaha
Yeah, there was no way anyone could have beat Galakrond with brute force at that point, not even the Titan Keepers, they were just whelps. Gimmicky shit was the only way. Although the Malygos bit when he eats other dragons and regains his sanity is insanely lazy and stupid.
@@unholyallen9572 no doubt, never liked that part in Nexus Point but thats also very out of context "Malygos awakens from his slumber. In his insanity, Malygos misinterprets the Nether dragons arrogant proclamations of being the embodiment of the Nexus and absorbs them and their power. The dragon's Nether-warped physiology began to affect the Spell-Weaver himself, ultimately helping him regain some of his lost sanity" So in reality he wasn't just chowing down on some standard dragons he was absorbing the Arcane magic out of Nether dragons. Also I don't know if I'd call the Galakrond kill a gimmicky thing, gimmicky would be needing a deus ex machina laser beam that could disintegrate him, a boulder just seems like a logical way to deal with it
and to top it off, they were proto drakes, does he think proto drakes, which are about as smart as t-rexs, would be smart enough to do other things that arnt primitive on the surface? besides maly being the smartest one of them, he was till pretty dumb compared to any of the playable races like a human, or a orc. they didint become intelligent like they currently until after they gained their aspect powers and transformed into the drakes we see them as today i believe.
when I was a kid I would just create my own lore for everything as I was playing, I always assumed the dragonspawn were simply warden ranks who protected the drakes and the drakes were just babies of the big boy dragons. For drakonids I thought they were just nefarians minions cos you only saw them in bwl.
I also always assumed drakes were younger dragons, because in Warcraft 3, that's what they are: the lvl 6 dragon form, above baby dragon and below dragon
They were able to disguise as the humanoids that would eventually live in the future because the bronze dragonflight could see them in the future They had no need to turn into these humanoids yet, but they could
It feels so good seeing Asmon reacting to Platinum WoW again. The guy is super talented, he definitely deserves all the recognition that he can get. Also, gotta love those reactions: "Oh my God, I didn't even know that" "What the fuck dood" "Holy shit" "I never knew that's how it happened"
they could bring scenarios back and add in all of the lore from outside sources so we can learn through in game means. no player power needs to tied to it just something fun. they could do all sorts of things with scenarios but it seems they just forgot about them.
Ok...but the Bolvar thing, he has the plague multiplying inside him as well, and the fire breath is constantly burning it, so he is like the underground mines that have been on fire for 40 years, the undeath plague is constantly killing him from inside and the flames of life are keeping him alive while they constantly burn him on the inside, if the flames ever go out, he will die. The infinite Dragonflight can't be corrupted by the Old gods, unless N'zoth is still alive.
I feel like the reason the Paladins chose the Silver Hand as their symbol was the notion of being willing to sacrifice something in pursuit of performing a noble duty. Tyr willingly sacrificed a piece of himself to help the Pre-Aspect proto-drakes kill Galakrond, who had become a threat to life on Azeroth. On a related note Galakrond died in the Dragon Blight zone of Northrend and Tyr died at Tirisfal in the northern part of the Eastern Kingdoms, implying that Pre-Sundering, those zones bordered each other.
50:20 I think the reason a lot of plot points were seemingly "ended/wrapped up" during Cata is because internally at Blizz it was to be the final expansion of WoW, project Titan was in the works and it was going to be the MMO to succeed WoW because originally WoW only had a 5 year life expectancy.
the aspects having fullfilled their purpose after beatng deathwing is DUMB. because that either means their purpose from the start was to bring down deathwing, meaning the titans KNEW he would go mad and be corrupted (and then why empower him at all), or that for some reason the world doesnt need defending anymore, which is patently false.
You know, we got time-travel from Chromie, I think we deserve a time-traveling expansion where we just explore the past, present and future in all the different regions of Azeroth. I mean, just think about it… what better way to learn the lore of the world than to take part in it yourself? Plus, it would be fun to partake in epic historical battles, as well as travel to the future to see what happens to Azeroth while we aren’t there to defend it. I fully believe we deserve something like this, if done right.
You know, the "don't add anything to the universe, just go back and add every alternate media content into the GAME" expansion idea is a pretty good one, all things considered. They can even call it something like "World of Warcraft: The Sands of Time", and have the Bronze and Infinite dragonflights feature heavily in it.
I think this would be better suited as an entire feature of the game that is expanded upon each expansion. Let people get the big plot moments in a sands of time/bronze dragonflight thing like you're saying, but just let it be a for-fun campaign with maybe some mounts or cosmetics or game play twists. I know this idea is too expensive for blizzard, even though they could easily cough up the dough for it.
*The Emerald Nightmare Dragons, literally the exact same thing as the Green Dragons but corrupted by the Old Gods:* exists *Asmongold:* That's so cool!! *The Infinite Dragonflight, which is literally the exact same thing as the Bronze Dragonflight but corrupted by the Old Gods:* exists *Asmongold:* That's so fucking dumb
The way you get there, is the difference. He also didn't complain about Deathwing being manipulated by an old god, because it had a good reason for happening.
@@phantafalconpunch With the infinite dragonflight, it's just there because it is. It's an arbitrary decision and had a way better alternative already set up for it. Sure, the bad version of the bronze aspect helps the old gods too, but as a side-product of his own will. The rest are "just corrupted" and were portrayed as being "just corrupted" before the bronze aspect even was. With the nightmare, it's the opposite of the emerald dream. Makes sense. With Deathwing, his entire existence sucked and he wanted out. N'zoth was like, "gotcha fam". Makes sense.
@@Gorgovoid173 I never brought up Deathwing, he doesn't matter to this conversation. And the Emerald Nightmare had no reason to be connected to the Old Gods either. Tell me, why did they have to connect the two? Why not say that the Emerald Nightmare is the manifestation of nature's endgame, where everything rots, decays and is turned to lifeless husks, and it's trying to take over the emerald dream, and the Nightmare Dragons are a manifestation of the rotting and wilting of nature. The opposite of the Emerald Dragons Much like the Infinite Dragonflight, the Emerald Dragonflight also has a far more interesting alternative idea and has no reason to be connected to the Old Gods
@@phantafalconpunch Deathwing is one of the main focuses of this video. With that in mind, I decided to give an example for him too. When you boil anything down far enough, it'll become arbitrary, but with the Emerald Nightmare it actually does make sense to be connected to the old gods. The reason being, that the Emerald Dream is a vision of the ideal Azeroth without mortal interference. You know? the planet that used to be completely infested with old gods before the Titans swooped in? So it makes sense for the Nightmare to have a connection to the old gods, if it's the opposite of the ideal vision. It's very Ying and Yang and it does make sense, since most things are a struggle of balance between different eternities in this game. It's just sticking to the theme. If you're complaining that it's not the way you wanted, then that's a you problem. The difference between this and the infinite dragonflight, is that if they went with the existentialism all the way, it would've been a more interesting story instead of just incorporating the old gods into the mix, since they're almost always everywhere every time anyway. And the more major difference, is that the infinite does not ORIGINATE with the old gods. It originates with Nozdormu. It would've been swell, if that's the way it went all the way. Though, despite being long-winded, I do actually think it's not that big of a deal that the infinite has a connection to the old gods. The bronze dragonflight to me is the most arbitrary and needlessly overpowered of them all. And I really just don't like time travel, when it's done poorly... And it's done poorly very often indeed. However, the difference between the two flights, is very clear in my eyes.
48:55 So basically the Jhen Morahn fight from Monster hunter Tri. Where you are on a sandship, chasing along side Jhen. some people shooting cannons and ballista, while others jump on his back to attack directly. then at phase 2 of the fight, its the last stand with you and your broken ship in the middle of the desert and jhen slowly crawls toward you while you try to repel / kill him. (the most bad ass fight in the franchise imo)
Ngl, I kinda love that dragon's have weird magical powers and how Galakrond had a weird ass death. It reflects stuff like norse mythology a lot. People always think norse mythology is all about being badass, but a lot of it feels a lot closer to old fairy tales than anything else. Also it makes sense lore wise for them to have weird magic powers since they were literally empowered by some of the strongest arcane beings out there.
22:10 Lets not forget: -Medivh and ALL his merry exploits while under the influence of Sargeras -The creation of the Sunwell, which later was used to revive Kel Thuzad and defile 1/4th of a continent; -Same sunwell being used to ALMOST summon Kil Jaden; -Speaking of Kel Thuzad, the pleague he created was magical in nature, same plague that ravaged the best part of 3 continents -Orcs corrupting the Dragon Soul into the Deamon Soul and enslaving the red dragonflight -The mana bomb that destroyed Theramore; -The Drustvar coven wiches summoning thorny-grim-reaper and his spiky friends Yeah, mortals have earned their ban on mana.
So the dragons don't get arcane magic, either? Because the mortal races that don't talk down to other mortal races at least have done anything positive. Non-dragon dragonkin are OK, I guess.
I think galakrond dying in such a random way actually makes sense just because it consists of the weaker dragons coming together and exploiting the one weakness they find from him.
the whole Wrathion becoming an aspect event would be badass! if only the event hadn't happened a few years prior already when Kalecgos became aspect of Magic in the Dragonwrath quest chain =(
@@TheJames208 true, i'm willing to bet they'll do an ass pull and make it so the dragon flights can force an event or commune with Elune to quicken it up
If the Eclipse can not come to Wrathion ... the Wrathion will have to go to the Eclipse ... with the help of some time travel! Chromie: "And that's my cue!"
@@Grubnar imagine if they just Teleport away in time for a second or two and then come back. “So, how’s it feel being an aspect now?” “I feel a lot of pressure on my scales.. this Is extremely uncomfortable..” “No take backs!”
6:00 you can do it anyways like lord, of the rings online does it. Sometimes you assist the main company as they go through the story, but in order for things to make sense, you’re usually just assisting, taking down some lower level baddies or you assist the main company take down the big bad where it’s understood that you are not the chosen one but a somewhat important part of the universe all the same
Was pleasantly surprised when I finally realized whose soul was in that troublesome wild seed, then went back to that moment in Legion from the other end. Even getting to see your character come up (then die) was excellent.
Bro they gave the night elves immortality and the druids the emerald dream, helped fight against C'thun, and technically defeated many of the burning legion and deathwing but the issue is that deathwing was a dragon himself. Also helped plant other world trees, stop blight at the wrathgate, and save the fabric of time constantly. I know this sounds dumb but azeroth may have died without these core aids of theirs
I always liked dragon lore the most. I got so invested in the lore during cata. Once the lore got thrown to the wayside in WoD i kinda stopped caring but its still cool to be back to the dragons storyline.
@@liamwilson7549 I just googled Tyrygosa and it's just another basic bitch blood elf. Can't compare imo to a true mommy dommy like Yrel who manages to slap a leash on Garrosh Hellscream.
Well, I may love dragons a lot, being my favorite fantasy creature of all time, but I have to say that the dragon aspects really fucked up the one thing they were supposed to do. They failed to stop the burning legion from nearly destroying Azeroth, they didn’t stop the content from splitting apart or anything that led up to that disaster, they really didn’t do much at all without the help of everyone else. Heck the only reason they stopped Deathwing was because we were there doing most of the work, lol. I think the Titans kind of made a mistake in powering the aspects. Really, they gave them power just for chocking a giant dragon to death with a huge builder, I’m sure you need to do a little more than that to earn god like power, guys. 😆
@25:18 watch from here for a min before reading the comment for it to make sense Imagine blizzard listens to the lore that asmongold suggested and they create a boss of the bronze dragon flight. This boss is the leader of the lore he mentioned (saving themselves from a certain death) and then they add an NPC close to the boss that is called “Asmon of the silver hand” and he is a paladin(Hi Mcconnell). Once u talk to him he has the old intro of asmon’s videos “sup guys this is your boi asmon of the silver hand”. After talking to him you get a very minor buff “ you get gut or get gutted” or whatever it is spelled like that gives very little help in terms of stats or whatever, but also this buff makes one random person with the buff to bladestorm and be unable to move so he dies to mechanics . If you kill the boss with asmon of the silver hand’s buff you get an achievement that is part of the glory achievements for the raid. I don’t usually comment on TH-cam videos, but thought the idea might be interesting. Edit: I didn’t think of a name for the achievement so feel free to share a suitable name.
Zack, Galakrond is a big plagued unliving proto dragon. Unliving is like undead, but they pretend its different. (we fought those mobs in arden weald leveling ysera dream). He does plague breath on steroids, all he touches, scratches, eats - dies. And he also has eternal hunger similiar to a death knight, forced to kill something every 24 hours in order to not feel excruciating pain. That's why his own kind becomes unliving. (All from dawn of the aspects book context) Malygos is a big brain bodybuilder dragon on titan steroids, who eats other steroid bros and his protein synthesis allowed him to become a gigachad again.
In War of the Ancients, you find out that at that 10, 000 year marker was around the time when Neltharion was truly corrupted but in all honestly, any being that takes on the mantle of Earth-Warden would become corrupted eventually. According to the book, there are ancient spirits within Azeroth's core that whispered to him for thousands of years and told him that the other Aspects were jealous and conspiring against him. At the same time, Azshara had begun utilizing the Night Well's power to open a portal for the Fel and its minions. The Fel was causing unbalance everywhere as they were unnatural creatures so the Aspects had a meeting to discuss what they were going to do. In this meeting, Nelthanrion suggested the creation of the Dragon Soul; a disk-like object that would habor the essence of each Aspect to be used against the Fel. He secretly had his own plans with the weapon and ultimately, ended up using it on Malygos's plight, ending the Blue in one foul wash of magic, which caused Maly to lose his mind; he was never the same after seeing his entire flight perish. However, Krasus, who is Alexstraza's main consort, was able to safely retrieve and keep safe a bunch of Blue eggs to ensure their survival. Its a shame when you read the book cause Neltharion clearly had so many intimate and memorable experiences with his Brothers and Sisters (the Aspects) but the corruption from being the Earth-Warden is ultimately what destroys that bond. Its a heavy mantle to bear and I don't think the Titans ever helped him with dealing with it :(
I think the old writing team had fun writing the dragons, that's probably why some of their lore is so derpy. Idk about the new writing team though... P.S. Nozdormu is probably one of my most favorite characters from the Warcraft Universe. About tied with the Black Dragonflight and Deathwing.
The sound Galakrond makes when Malygos fly into his mouth lol 4:05 11:05 start of one of the greatest moments online 14:57 the chat 28:10 Oh I see what they did there… Nozdormu, Murozond…
That nozdormu/future nozdormu questline should've been fleshed out to be an entire expansion by itself. There's so much depth and human emotion that could be explored in it. The villain future version of him could've been a Thanos like sympathetic villain that the player can relate to. That should've been the dragon villain expansion instead of Cataclysm. There's so many cool alternate reality dungeons/raids that could be made in that expansion where the writers could just go crazy with their craziest ideas without having to worry about lore implications because they'd be alternate timelines that wouldn't affect anything in the main timeline.
I never understood why they never touched on undeath in the shadowlands and how souls that are on their way to redemption or whatever path they are on, getting ripped back into the living plane. Just found it odd. Maybe I missed something. Cheers
I don't think undead have souls in them. Forsaken maybe but in that case their souls never leave due to the plague so their bodies just start walking around agian. Undead is probably just magic animating and controlling the bodies no souls in them just magic.
Imagine if they really give us the dragonkin class… and in the starter zone you are just a proto dragon, and after finishing some minor missions as a proto dragon you are blessed by the titans to become a lesser version of the dragon aspects, a dragonkin that shapeshifts to humanoid form and has cool powers and stuff… that would be at least interesting
@@budakbaongsiah Dragonborn and dragon people were a thing before Skyrim, my guy. Dragonkin in WoW are drakes that are humanoid. Not someone with the blood of dragons like in Elder Scrolls.
@@budakbaongsiah Dragonborn doesn't shapeshift and "cool powers" are a part of all races in the game. I'm really not trying to dunk on you, but none of what he said is remotely exclusive to Skyrim and the elder scrolls series as a whole.
WoW: Dragonspawn come from… hanging out with dragon? Yeah! That! Elden Ring: So, the Magma Wyrm are dragons that used to be humans that were corrupted by the consumption of dragon hearts during dragon communion rituals that they would perform to gain the magics and powers of true dragons. So that is why they use a sword and why your eyes turn gold after gaining so many dragon spells.
I think people hate a bit too much on the Madness of Deathwing fight. Sure, spine was a pain in the ass but Madness had some cool visuals and the fight itself was intense. Yea we fought tentacles but the surrounding area was one of the best. The really bad part of Dragon Soul were the Morchok, Yor’shaj (or whatever his name was), Zon’ozz and Hagara fights. All of their models were reused and the fact that there were 2 identical boss rooms. The “flying to the next boss on a drake of a different color” was also lame, but from Ultraxion it was a cool raid.
Nobble actually did a lore video on this story aswell many years ago it’s really good. I do like this representation of it though because you can see what’s happening through these funny animations where as Nobble was more of a serious tone to it. Great video
2:15 "death had influence on azeroth long before the litch king". Was galakrond the 1st litch? Hes a zombie drake in northerend who reanimated other drakes into undeath
the twilight hammer used captured nether drakes to transform "the worthy" into Drakonids so it's not entirely just random BS but idk about the dragonspawn.
They have kinda collabed, in one of Plat's videos he asked Asmon to say "I'm literally a fucking god" on stream which he then used in the video, can't remember which one.
about silver hand: Tyr later fought a void general hance the connection to paladins ;) and why the arm was not in northrend but in eastern kingdoms somewhere
Malygos Deathwing Ysera We have so far killed 3 out of the 5 Original Dragonflights. Kind of makes sense now with 10.0 being Dragonflight. Let me guess, part of the plot will be to find out how Tyr empowered the Dragonflights with some Titan Device (Uldaz) Not to mention we need to re-unite the Blue Dragonflight and assign new leaders of the 3, In this case: Kalecos Wrathion and Yseras sister? I think? Am I in the ball park?
Dragons would need a new Embrace to make new aspects, which is every 430 years, last one being 5-ish years ago during Dragonwrath questline when Kalecgos became an aspect. So we would have to time travel to an Embrace or get Elune to do it manually. If we get new aspects, Wrathion is for sure becoming one. Kalec already is one and Ysera's daughter Merithra became the new leader of the green dragonflight. Assuming that Ysera's mortality means that she cannot join the cycle of rebirth.
well this explains why TIRisfal glades has had a new sky box and other things data mined, if tyr is coming back it would make sense for them to re do the area where he fell
Most of the Dragon Story was created by Chis Metzen and he was inspired by many Fantasy Books (LotR, Wheel of Time, Warhammer Fantasy, etc.), Movies, Marvel Comics, Lovecraft, etc.. The Story of the Tyrs Hand is similar to the Story of Beren in Tolkiens Silmarilion, the Story of the titans has connectens to the Celestials in Marvel (Celestial in the Earth?? A Titan is Azeroth?), The Eternals Story was long ago writen in comic books (in the 70s).. The Old Gods and the Murlocs come from Lovecraft, the Green Orcs and the Human Race were inspired by Warhammer Fantasy (Warcraft 1 should be an Warhammer Game. Is good they dont get the licencse in the past). Malygos also become mad because Deathwing destroys his complete Dragon Flight. The later found they wasn't dead, but he thinks it. Some stuff that fuckt the story up most in the time when it comes to': How we but it into the game? Oh we want this is cool. But what story will the have? I don't know to this... And why is this in books and comics? Make money^^ . And the writers of hte books and comics have only a little free room for their one ideas. Also the idea of Warlords of Draenor was to get the Orcs and Draenei from the Parallel Draenor to help us agisnt the Legion (In Books and also the MoP Questline from Wrathlion). And Wrathlion dont can become an aspekt this Eclipse was in the book for Kalegos to make him the aspect of the blue dragons.. We must wait 400 Years for the next... Chris Metzen make a new groundfounding universe and if you see the artworks there is so many from Diablo and WoW in it...
Something that they could do with the lore being in the comics is they could take the books, split them into chapters and put them in the game, kinda like Elder Scrolls of Dragon Age. Also the letters used for the name Murozond can spell Nozdormu. And the thing is that as Nozdormu said when Murozond died, the moment of his death has come to pass meaning that Nozdormu will become Murozond at some point. It is inevitable.
Green Dragons - corrupted by the Old Gods (Emerald Nightmare) Bronze Dragons - corrupted by the Old Gods (Seeing own death) Blue Dragons - corrupted by the Old Gods (blabbering about bad magic usage) Black Dragons - corrupted by the Old Gods (because they are bound to same earth where the old gods are imprisoned) Red Dragons - going to be corrupted by the Old Gods? (because we changed how the cycle of life and death is seen in shadowlands - THE PURPOSE ??)
9:05 the writer first went 420 years, rolled 1 up, hitted it and talked himself right into believing they will find out why he choose 420 years. Proud of the Idea 430 Years is perfect he got a drink with some Ice for his 300 IQ writting. And because he was High AF he thought that he doesn't have to remove the fly on the 1 Icecube, because he can drink around it. "smart" In the End somehow he ended up choking on that icecube with the fly on it, inspired how this small piece of ice with a fly on it nearly killed him, he got the perfect Idea for how Galakrond could be defeated. MAYYYBEEE
The bronze flight could have put a end to the legion and old gods with ysera and alextrazas diplomacy they could have gone through all of time recruiting past and future versions of themselves and other races and make a army of literal time and become the strongest faction in existence
44:40 I was invited to the Cataclysm beta, and given a free digital copy of Cataclysm. It... was disappointing to say the least. They at least fixed a lot of the issues in beta [it played more like an early-access alpha test]. I quit playing during Cataclysm around v4.22, and didn't come back til BFA, then left again the day Shadowlands dropped [which was somehow more disappointing than Cata]
Neverwinter had Tiamat and it was bad ass. It can be done. Also Zombie Breath was far more ridiculous than the way he died. A breath so bad it turns people who smell it to zombies is just hilarious.
I was a bit disappointed in the Deathwing we got vs the books. Yes he truly is The Cataclysm but he also faffed off for a while, quite a while until the raid. Arthas was always present, constantly the undead monkey on our backs. Cata was a fun expansion. Cheers Asmongold!
you should know in legends rogue questline, only rogues learn that a drakonid is using created from dragon blood in created from mortals... and your task in vor karazan is to kill the black dragon responsible for it
his summary of this book is a amalgamation the build up to choking him is what needs to be said. It was literally the only chance they have because Galakrond keeps growing. he could literally eat multiple Protos at once.
I stg if Blizzard ever has a "final expansion" they could probably have galakrond be ressurected (since there's actively a cult attempting to do so) and have him destroy Azeroth. (Story wise, you'd still be able to play the game, explore Azeroth, etc)
I was really disappointed with the Emerald Nightmare turning out to be mostly caused by Xavius, a fucking satyr... if it was mostly N'Zoth it would have been better but he was a "co-creator" rather than the main reason for the Nightmare existing. Malygos being insane was yeah totally random and made no sense without the right context. Ysera being killed off felt super anti-climactic and dumb.
I'd like to point out a thing that has always bothered me that I remembered while watching this. The orc clan that deathwing gives the dragon soul to are called Dragonmaw. There are no dragons on Draenor before Deathwing goes there with his babies. How the fuck did they get that name? Were the other orcs just like, "Wtf is a dragon m8?"
10:50 huh, so when Alexstrasza gets turned into a bowl of fruit it's actually supported by the lore
That fucking noise had me dying
YEAAAS
The reason elements turn into dragons according to generic fantasy lore is that dragons are the condensation of pure elemental power in a more perfect form.
and weve beeen tbagging them since vanilla 🤣
Which is hilarious because it seems everything is actually just evolving into a crab, not a dragon. SO THEY WERE WRONG
It was prolly cuz they were hanging with elementals
That isn't even a reason
@@Ironytheloreaxe good one xD
The silverhand symbol actually fits really well. Tyr sacrificed his arm for the greater good and ultimately brought victory over evil to Azeroth. As such the hand symbolizes the victory and willingness to sacrifice for others sake.
And it is a nod to the god Tyr chained the wolf Fenris in Norse mythology. It cost him his hand.
I'm not if Blizzard had this in mind, but the part where Warcraft Tyr has his hand replaced with a silver prosthetic could also be a parallel to the Irish god Nuada (who has the epithet Airgetlám mean 'silver hand').
@@Oaglornah its a reference to keanu Reaves
@@Oaglor I thought he was just an azerothian tyr... The Norse god who betrayed fenrir
@@kaiyote7924 From what I had read, Norse Tyr never replaced his hand. Nuada, on the other hand, does replace his hand.
Due to my shit proofreading skills, I forgot to add the word 'sure' to the first statement 'I'm not sure if Blizzard had this in mind'. The Nuada connection was just me putting two-and-two together.
Wait so.. the reason Dalaran is flying above Northrend is that the magic was severely weakened by Malygos.. so they somehow, with weakened magic powers, teleported a whole city right into the cave of the lion - where the Dragon Aspect of Magic was, who siphoned pretty much all the power to the Oculus - and kept it afloat (and apparently magically shielded, because how the hell did they not get instantly obliterated at that point?).. all while their magic was weakened?
I think I need to go lie down.
You need aspirin, man?
'Cause I do.
I'm pretty sure once they got there being so close to the oculus increased their powers. How they managed to move the city with nerfs however, is beyond me.
Because even while nerfed mages are extremely powerful. Especially when they pool their powers together like they did to teleport the city.
They merged their remaining powers together
"It's magic, I aint got to explain shit."
6:30 I think the person who mentioned Cosmic Horror was referring to Lovecrafts works and how his abominations were rarely ever shown, just described.
The sight of some of the old gods literally drove people insane at the mere sight of it, how do you show that in a videogame and have the same weight?
Exactly
It's really hard to take any of this shit seriously when the WoW version of Eldritch beings are regularly curb stomped by people named things like Weedlordgoku or Sephirothuchiha
Deathwing and the black dragonflight are my favorite villains in Warcraft actually. For no objective reason, I just think they are cool.
i like turtles
I remember finding the Ysera cinematic so fascinating. Was this our first glimpse of Elune? It opened up so many questions... but now we know she ended up in the Shadowlands. A fate worse than death.
Dude, that whole sequence of events made me more emotional than anything else in WoW. I was angry at Xavius, I was heartbroken when I had to kill Ysera, and I was in awe at the cinematic. I think it did actually bring a tear to my eye and I still get goosebumps watching it. Whoever was in charge of that quest line needs to be the narrative director, because it was awesome.
I could only think rip-off/spoof of specific dragon movie, like how the black city may or may not have ripped off lord of the rings.
Shadowlands will never be canon for me
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It's important to note that Deathwing pinned Gruul with one arm during their fight. He was actually pretty amused by him. The reason he ran away was because Khadgar loosened the plates on his body that almost made him fall apart while was distracted fighting Gruul.
you forgot how Korialstraz (Alexandra's Warcraft 1 and onwards Consort) basically helped Dalaran out for decades as an Archmage named Krasus. This is probs the best example of it being used for good. There are quite a few others though that one is the best example.
I was looking for this, i like krasus.
I wish they would use the Caverns of Time to give us more dungeons and raids based off of key moments in Warcraft history, and who knows maybe they could have the Bronze Dragonflight 'fix' the retcons that Shadowlands had introduced, Like for example:
With the players now aware of how the Shadowlands function, the Jailor's existence and his plans, they bring this info back to the Dragon Aspects, and with it the Bronze Dragonflight are now able to look out for any unnoticed anomalies that could have been the Jailor changing the true timeline for it to be part of his influence.
Man I Wish Something Like The Caverns Of Time Was Brought Into The Elder Scrolls Series Like How The Dragonborn
Could Go To The Past And Stop Uriel Septim VIIth's Death From Occuring
And Also Makes Sure The Vestige Doesn't
Die And Stop Molag Bal's Planemeld
Hey i kinda liked how the big dragon died! was refreshingly simple and realistic like all the little dragons couldnt beat the big guy and came up with a simple yet effective solution that they pulled off in a dire moment.. I kinda like it, not everything needs to be Michael bay shit hahaha
yeah fr he hears something extremely out of context and goes "Pepega DAS STOOOPID BAD WRITING!!!"
Yeah, there was no way anyone could have beat Galakrond with brute force at that point, not even the Titan Keepers, they were just whelps. Gimmicky shit was the only way.
Although the Malygos bit when he eats other dragons and regains his sanity is insanely lazy and stupid.
@@unholyallen9572 no doubt, never liked that part in Nexus Point but thats also very out of context "Malygos awakens from his slumber. In his insanity, Malygos misinterprets the Nether dragons arrogant proclamations of being the embodiment of the Nexus and absorbs them and their power. The dragon's Nether-warped physiology began to affect the Spell-Weaver himself, ultimately helping him regain some of his lost sanity" So in reality he wasn't just chowing down on some standard dragons he was absorbing the Arcane magic out of Nether dragons. Also I don't know if I'd call the Galakrond kill a gimmicky thing, gimmicky would be needing a deus ex machina laser beam that could disintegrate him, a boulder just seems like a logical way to deal with it
and to top it off, they were proto drakes, does he think proto drakes, which are about as smart as t-rexs, would be smart enough to do other things that arnt primitive on the surface?
besides maly being the smartest one of them, he was till pretty dumb compared to any of the playable races like a human, or a orc.
they didint become intelligent like they currently until after they gained their aspect powers and transformed into the drakes we see them as today i believe.
Very reminescent of norse and greek mythology in the way they wrote this, not bad, not extremely inspired but makes sense in the context.
when I was a kid I would just create my own lore for everything as I was playing, I always assumed the dragonspawn were simply warden ranks who protected the drakes and the drakes were just babies of the big boy dragons. For drakonids I thought they were just nefarians minions cos you only saw them in bwl.
Ghey
I also always assumed drakes were younger dragons, because in Warcraft 3, that's what they are: the lvl 6 dragon form, above baby dragon and below dragon
What were dragons turning into before humanoids existed in Azeroth? I guess, Alexstraza turning into a tree explains it
I'd say titanforged or animals
They were able to disguise as the humanoids that would eventually live in the future because the bronze dragonflight could see them in the future
They had no need to turn into these humanoids yet, but they could
3:30 _Hears Asmon's take on the hand thing_ Man, where's McCool when you need him the most? lmao.
It feels so good seeing Asmon reacting to Platinum WoW again. The guy is super talented, he definitely deserves all the recognition that he can get. Also, gotta love those reactions:
"Oh my God, I didn't even know that"
"What the fuck dood"
"Holy shit"
"I never knew that's how it happened"
you god to be kitten me
they could bring scenarios back and add in all of the lore from outside sources so we can learn through in game means. no player power needs to tied to it just something fun. they could do all sorts of things with scenarios but it seems they just forgot about them.
They've legit done the exact same thing in Overwatch so yeah, like its totally something they could do.
Ok...but the Bolvar thing, he has the plague multiplying inside him as well, and the fire breath is constantly burning it, so he is like the underground mines that have been on fire for 40 years, the undeath plague is constantly killing him from inside and the flames of life are keeping him alive while they constantly burn him on the inside, if the flames ever go out, he will die.
The infinite Dragonflight can't be corrupted by the Old gods, unless N'zoth is still alive.
I feel like the reason the Paladins chose the Silver Hand as their symbol was the notion of being willing to sacrifice something in pursuit of performing a noble duty. Tyr willingly sacrificed a piece of himself to help the Pre-Aspect proto-drakes kill Galakrond, who had become a threat to life on Azeroth.
On a related note Galakrond died in the Dragon Blight zone of Northrend and Tyr died at Tirisfal in the northern part of the Eastern Kingdoms, implying that Pre-Sundering, those zones bordered each other.
50:20 I think the reason a lot of plot points were seemingly "ended/wrapped up" during Cata is because internally at Blizz it was to be the final expansion of WoW, project Titan was in the works and it was going to be the MMO to succeed WoW because originally WoW only had a 5 year life expectancy.
No, why would a game at the time with like 10 million subscribers be canceled or shut down.
@@Cavemanheartrock If I remember correctly, they did not expect that popularity to last.
Project Titan was from a completely different company. And if I was blizzard I would've tried to make a bigger better game then them.
Almost an hour of "I didn't know that!" and "I didn't know that either!". Love it
3:51 Fun fact in norse mytholigy Tyr actually loses his arm
the aspects having fullfilled their purpose after beatng deathwing is DUMB. because that either means their purpose from the start was to bring down deathwing, meaning the titans KNEW he would go mad and be corrupted (and then why empower him at all), or that for some reason the world doesnt need defending anymore, which is patently false.
You know, we got time-travel from Chromie, I think we deserve a time-traveling expansion where we just explore the past, present and future in all the different regions of Azeroth. I mean, just think about it… what better way to learn the lore of the world than to take part in it yourself? Plus, it would be fun to partake in epic historical battles, as well as travel to the future to see what happens to Azeroth while we aren’t there to defend it. I fully believe we deserve something like this, if done right.
You know, the "don't add anything to the universe, just go back and add every alternate media content into the GAME" expansion idea is a pretty good one, all things considered. They can even call it something like "World of Warcraft: The Sands of Time", and have the Bronze and Infinite dragonflights feature heavily in it.
I think this would be better suited as an entire feature of the game that is expanded upon each expansion. Let people get the big plot moments in a sands of time/bronze dragonflight thing like you're saying, but just let it be a for-fun campaign with maybe some mounts or cosmetics or game play twists.
I know this idea is too expensive for blizzard, even though they could easily cough up the dough for it.
I think it would be crazy if they rez galakrond, and turn him into the aspect of death or something tying in the scourge aspect
*The Emerald Nightmare Dragons, literally the exact same thing as the Green Dragons but corrupted by the Old Gods:* exists
*Asmongold:* That's so cool!!
*The Infinite Dragonflight, which is literally the exact same thing as the Bronze Dragonflight but corrupted by the Old Gods:* exists
*Asmongold:* That's so fucking dumb
The way you get there, is the difference. He also didn't complain about Deathwing being manipulated by an old god, because it had a good reason for happening.
@@Gorgovoid173 how is the way any different between the Nightmare Dragons and the Infinite Dragons?
@@phantafalconpunch With the infinite dragonflight, it's just there because it is. It's an arbitrary decision and had a way better alternative already set up for it. Sure, the bad version of the bronze aspect helps the old gods too, but as a side-product of his own will. The rest are "just corrupted" and were portrayed as being "just corrupted" before the bronze aspect even was.
With the nightmare, it's the opposite of the emerald dream. Makes sense.
With Deathwing, his entire existence sucked and he wanted out. N'zoth was like, "gotcha fam". Makes sense.
@@Gorgovoid173 I never brought up Deathwing, he doesn't matter to this conversation.
And the Emerald Nightmare had no reason to be connected to the Old Gods either. Tell me, why did they have to connect the two? Why not say that the Emerald Nightmare is the manifestation of nature's endgame, where everything rots, decays and is turned to lifeless husks, and it's trying to take over the emerald dream, and the Nightmare Dragons are a manifestation of the rotting and wilting of nature. The opposite of the Emerald Dragons
Much like the Infinite Dragonflight, the Emerald Dragonflight also has a far more interesting alternative idea and has no reason to be connected to the Old Gods
@@phantafalconpunch Deathwing is one of the main focuses of this video. With that in mind, I decided to give an example for him too.
When you boil anything down far enough, it'll become arbitrary, but with the Emerald Nightmare it actually does make sense to be connected to the old gods. The reason being, that the Emerald Dream is a vision of the ideal Azeroth without mortal interference. You know? the planet that used to be completely infested with old gods before the Titans swooped in?
So it makes sense for the Nightmare to have a connection to the old gods, if it's the opposite of the ideal vision. It's very Ying and Yang and it does make sense, since most things are a struggle of balance between different eternities in this game. It's just sticking to the theme. If you're complaining that it's not the way you wanted, then that's a you problem.
The difference between this and the infinite dragonflight, is that if they went with the existentialism all the way, it would've been a more interesting story instead of just incorporating the old gods into the mix, since they're almost always everywhere every time anyway.
And the more major difference, is that the infinite does not ORIGINATE with the old gods. It originates with Nozdormu. It would've been swell, if that's the way it went all the way.
Though, despite being long-winded, I do actually think it's not that big of a deal that the infinite has a connection to the old gods. The bronze dragonflight to me is the most arbitrary and needlessly overpowered of them all. And I really just don't like time travel, when it's done poorly... And it's done poorly very often indeed.
However, the difference between the two flights, is very clear in my eyes.
48:55 So basically the Jhen Morahn fight from Monster hunter Tri. Where you are on a sandship, chasing along side Jhen. some people shooting cannons and ballista, while others jump on his back to attack directly. then at phase 2 of the fight, its the last stand with you and your broken ship in the middle of the desert and jhen slowly crawls toward you while you try to repel / kill him. (the most bad ass fight in the franchise imo)
I miss that fight.
The puffer fish "aah" when malygos shoved the boulder in galycrons throat was hilarious
Ngl, I kinda love that dragon's have weird magical powers and how Galakrond had a weird ass death. It reflects stuff like norse mythology a lot. People always think norse mythology is all about being badass, but a lot of it feels a lot closer to old fairy tales than anything else. Also it makes sense lore wise for them to have weird magic powers since they were literally empowered by some of the strongest arcane beings out there.
22:10 Lets not forget:
-Medivh and ALL his merry exploits while under the influence of Sargeras
-The creation of the Sunwell, which later was used to revive Kel Thuzad and defile 1/4th of a continent;
-Same sunwell being used to ALMOST summon Kil Jaden;
-Speaking of Kel Thuzad, the pleague he created was magical in nature, same plague that ravaged the best part of 3 continents
-Orcs corrupting the Dragon Soul into the Deamon Soul and enslaving the red dragonflight
-The mana bomb that destroyed Theramore;
-The Drustvar coven wiches summoning thorny-grim-reaper and his spiky friends
Yeah, mortals have earned their ban on mana.
So the dragons don't get arcane magic, either? Because the mortal races that don't talk down to other mortal races at least have done anything positive. Non-dragon dragonkin are OK, I guess.
I think galakrond dying in such a random way actually makes sense just because it consists of the weaker dragons coming together and exploiting the one weakness they find from him.
The backstory of the Nether drakes is literally a key part of the Outlands questlines.
Specifically the questline with Tyragosa(?)
Wait, it is?
the whole Wrathion becoming an aspect event would be badass! if only the event hadn't happened a few years prior already when Kalecgos became aspect of Magic in the Dragonwrath quest chain =(
I'm sure blizz can and will retcon any dragon lore they like during this expansion of Shadowlands is something to go off
@@TheJames208 true, i'm willing to bet they'll do an ass pull and make it so the dragon flights can force an event or commune with Elune to quicken it up
If the Eclipse can not come to Wrathion ... the Wrathion will have to go to the Eclipse ... with the help of some time travel!
Chromie: "And that's my cue!"
@@Grubnar imagine if they just Teleport away in time for a second or two and then come back.
“So, how’s it feel being an aspect now?”
“I feel a lot of pressure on my scales.. this Is extremely uncomfortable..”
“No take backs!”
6:00 you can do it anyways like lord, of the rings online does it. Sometimes you assist the main company as they go through the story, but in order for things to make sense, you’re usually just assisting, taking down some lower level baddies or you assist the main company take down the big bad where it’s understood that you are not the chosen one but a somewhat important part of the universe all the same
There's SO MUCH cool story they could have used. every thing you were impressed by, they should have made way more obvious and used it.
Was pleasantly surprised when I finally realized whose soul was in that troublesome wild seed, then went back to that moment in Legion from the other end. Even getting to see your character come up (then die) was excellent.
To be honest all the dragons have been more of hinderance than an aid In the long run
said the guy who hasn't hang out with dragons
The original fight of AQ is the only time they have been helpful without any downsides.
its like having 5 Raidens. All they do is make things worse and keep F'ing up nonstop.
Bro they gave the night elves immortality and the druids the emerald dream, helped fight against C'thun, and technically defeated many of the burning legion and deathwing but the issue is that deathwing was a dragon himself. Also helped plant other world trees, stop blight at the wrathgate, and save the fabric of time constantly. I know this sounds dumb but azeroth may have died without these core aids of theirs
I always liked dragon lore the most. I got so invested in the lore during cata. Once the lore got thrown to the wayside in WoD i kinda stopped caring but its still cool to be back to the dragons storyline.
Alexstraza is the mommy of WoW.
@@liamwilson7549 I googled Tyri and just found a battle pet.
That Title belongs to Yrel.
@@liamwilson7549 I just googled Tyrygosa and it's just another basic bitch blood elf. Can't compare imo to a true mommy dommy like Yrel who manages to slap a leash on Garrosh Hellscream.
@@liamwilson7549 she cute but not as famous or iconic as Alex.
@@liamwilson7549 Juju is cuter than Marin yeah
That whole eclipse every 400 years thing really loses its impact when one of the aspects can literally time travel
Well, I may love dragons a lot, being my favorite fantasy creature of all time, but I have to say that the dragon aspects really fucked up the one thing they were supposed to do. They failed to stop the burning legion from nearly destroying Azeroth, they didn’t stop the content from splitting apart or anything that led up to that disaster, they really didn’t do much at all without the help of everyone else. Heck the only reason they stopped Deathwing was because we were there doing most of the work, lol. I think the Titans kind of made a mistake in powering the aspects. Really, they gave them power just for chocking a giant dragon to death with a huge builder, I’m sure you need to do a little more than that to earn god like power, guys. 😆
41:00 The reason you remember the lore in FFXIV is *you fucking read it*
WoW's quest text is a skip simulator
37:00 or he could've just gone back to the time when they gave the dragons their powers and give Deathwing a better one lol
I love it when Asmon reacts to lore videos. Do Elden Ring too.
@25:18 watch from here for a min before reading the comment for it to make sense
Imagine blizzard listens to the lore that asmongold suggested and they create a boss of the bronze dragon flight.
This boss is the leader of the lore he mentioned (saving themselves from a certain death) and then they add an NPC close to the boss that is called “Asmon of the silver hand” and he is a paladin(Hi Mcconnell). Once u talk to him he has the old intro of asmon’s videos “sup guys this is your boi asmon of the silver hand”. After talking to him you get a very minor buff “
you get gut or get gutted” or whatever it is spelled like that gives very little help in terms of stats or whatever, but also this buff makes one random person with the buff to bladestorm and be unable to move so he dies to mechanics .
If you kill the boss with asmon of the silver hand’s buff you get an achievement that is part of the glory achievements for the raid.
I don’t usually comment on TH-cam videos, but thought the idea might be interesting.
Edit: I didn’t think of a name for the achievement so feel free to share a suitable name.
Deathwing's death was spark-fart of disappointment after getting space pancake laser tagged. Wow.
Zack, Galakrond is a big plagued unliving proto dragon. Unliving is like undead, but they pretend its different. (we fought those mobs in arden weald leveling ysera dream). He does plague breath on steroids, all he touches, scratches, eats - dies. And he also has eternal hunger similiar to a death knight, forced to kill something every 24 hours in order to not feel excruciating pain. That's why his own kind becomes unliving. (All from dawn of the aspects book context)
Malygos is a big brain bodybuilder dragon on titan steroids, who eats other steroid bros and his protein synthesis allowed him to become a gigachad again.
According to nixxiom the dragon soul was called the golden dinner plate
of destiny
16:30 Valeera, Taelia, Jaina, Living Sylvanass, Alleria would like to have a word.
17:50 absolutely for sure
In War of the Ancients, you find out that at that 10, 000 year marker was around the time when Neltharion was truly corrupted but in all honestly, any being that takes on the mantle of Earth-Warden would become corrupted eventually. According to the book, there are ancient spirits within Azeroth's core that whispered to him for thousands of years and told him that the other Aspects were jealous and conspiring against him. At the same time, Azshara had begun utilizing the Night Well's power to open a portal for the Fel and its minions. The Fel was causing unbalance everywhere as they were unnatural creatures so the Aspects had a meeting to discuss what they were going to do. In this meeting, Nelthanrion suggested the creation of the Dragon Soul; a disk-like object that would habor the essence of each Aspect to be used against the Fel. He secretly had his own plans with the weapon and ultimately, ended up using it on Malygos's plight, ending the Blue in one foul wash of magic, which caused Maly to lose his mind; he was never the same after seeing his entire flight perish. However, Krasus, who is Alexstraza's main consort, was able to safely retrieve and keep safe a bunch of Blue eggs to ensure their survival. Its a shame when you read the book cause Neltharion clearly had so many intimate and memorable experiences with his Brothers and Sisters (the Aspects) but the corruption from being the Earth-Warden is ultimately what destroys that bond. Its a heavy mantle to bear and I don't think the Titans ever helped him with dealing with it :(
I think the old writing team had fun writing the dragons, that's probably why some of their lore is so derpy.
Idk about the new writing team though...
P.S. Nozdormu is probably one of my most favorite characters from the Warcraft Universe. About tied with the Black Dragonflight and Deathwing.
The sound Galakrond makes when Malygos fly into his mouth lol 4:05
11:05 start of one of the greatest moments online
14:57 the chat
28:10 Oh I see what they did there… Nozdormu, Murozond…
Funny how Hearthstone used Galakrond as a main plot point for the story of Year of the Dragon, while WoW hasn't done anything with him yet.
Actually, they had you prevent his resurrection in Dragonblight.
That nozdormu/future nozdormu questline should've been fleshed out to be an entire expansion by itself. There's so much depth and human emotion that could be explored in it. The villain future version of him could've been a Thanos like sympathetic villain that the player can relate to. That should've been the dragon villain expansion instead of Cataclysm. There's so many cool alternate reality dungeons/raids that could be made in that expansion where the writers could just go crazy with their craziest ideas without having to worry about lore implications because they'd be alternate timelines that wouldn't affect anything in the main timeline.
I never understood why they never touched on undeath in the shadowlands and how souls that are on their way to redemption or whatever path they are on, getting ripped back into the living plane. Just found it odd. Maybe I missed something. Cheers
I don't think undead have souls in them. Forsaken maybe but in that case their souls never leave due to the plague so their bodies just start walking around agian.
Undead is probably just magic animating and controlling the bodies no souls in them just magic.
Imagine if they really give us the dragonkin class… and in the starter zone you are just a proto dragon, and after finishing some minor missions as a proto dragon you are blessed by the titans to become a lesser version of the dragon aspects, a dragonkin that shapeshifts to humanoid form and has cool powers and stuff… that would be at least interesting
So Skyrim in WoW?
Fuck.
@@budakbaongsiah Dragonborn and dragon people were a thing before Skyrim, my guy. Dragonkin in WoW are drakes that are humanoid. Not someone with the blood of dragons like in Elder Scrolls.
@@aaronyayger
I know that dragonkin has been around since before Skyrim, but what OP is saying is just the story of Dragonborn.
@@budakbaongsiah Dragonborn doesn't shapeshift and "cool powers" are a part of all races in the game. I'm really not trying to dunk on you, but none of what he said is remotely exclusive to Skyrim and the elder scrolls series as a whole.
Cooler than fox gnomes anyway.
They're going to cover up elf Alexstrasza with her new model, dude. You have to know this now. It's a big punch in the gut for you, I know.
WoW: Dragonspawn come from… hanging out with dragon? Yeah! That!
Elden Ring: So, the Magma Wyrm are dragons that used to be humans that were corrupted by the consumption of dragon hearts during dragon communion rituals that they would perform to gain the magics and powers of true dragons. So that is why they use a sword and why your eyes turn gold after gaining so many dragon spells.
I think people hate a bit too much on the Madness of Deathwing fight. Sure, spine was a pain in the ass but Madness had some cool visuals and the fight itself was intense. Yea we fought tentacles but the surrounding area was one of the best. The really bad part of Dragon Soul were the Morchok, Yor’shaj (or whatever his name was), Zon’ozz and Hagara fights. All of their models were reused and the fact that there were 2 identical boss rooms. The “flying to the next boss on a drake of a different color” was also lame, but from Ultraxion it was a cool raid.
Love the work you do!
All of your videos are awesome and fun to watch multiples times. The bard skills you show is top tier as well. 😊
Nobble actually did a lore video on this story aswell many years ago it’s really good. I do like this representation of it though because you can see what’s happening through these funny animations where as Nobble was more of a serious tone to it. Great video
I kinda love cataclysm... I like deathwing more than anything in the game. He is soo cool.
2:15 "death had influence on azeroth long before the litch king". Was galakrond the 1st litch? Hes a zombie drake in northerend who reanimated other drakes into undeath
26:55 is there any recording of him beating alexander I really wanna watch it but I only find the first four fights.
the twilight hammer used captured nether drakes to transform "the worthy" into Drakonids so it's not entirely just random BS but idk about the dragonspawn.
Tbh asmon should collab with platwow. He gives so much content thats good.
They have kinda collabed, in one of Plat's videos he asked Asmon to say "I'm literally a fucking god" on stream which he then used in the video, can't remember which one.
I like the bronze dragonflight when you went to old hillsbrad to free thrall
about silver hand: Tyr later fought a void general hance the connection to paladins ;) and why the arm was not in northrend but in eastern kingdoms somewhere
Malygos
Deathwing
Ysera
We have so far killed 3 out of the 5 Original Dragonflights. Kind of makes sense now with 10.0 being Dragonflight. Let me guess, part of the plot will be to find out how Tyr empowered the Dragonflights with some Titan Device (Uldaz) Not to mention we need to re-unite the Blue Dragonflight and assign new leaders of the 3, In this case:
Kalecos
Wrathion
and Yseras sister? I think?
Am I in the ball park?
Dragons would need a new Embrace to make new aspects, which is every 430 years, last one being 5-ish years ago during Dragonwrath questline when Kalecgos became an aspect. So we would have to time travel to an Embrace or get Elune to do it manually.
If we get new aspects, Wrathion is for sure becoming one. Kalec already is one and Ysera's daughter Merithra became the new leader of the green dragonflight.
Assuming that Ysera's mortality means that she cannot join the cycle of rebirth.
Ironically I think the best big boss fight in WoW is that nobody bug in that Gate Crashing MOP 5 man. That or the random worm in Blackwing Descent.
Blizzard needs to sponsor Asmongold… he’s got viewers from other communities watching this stuff because how popular Asmongold is on twitch
well this explains why TIRisfal glades has had a new sky box and other things data mined, if tyr is coming back it would make sense for them to re do the area where he fell
100% right about the ending being bullshit. sounded like some writer just decided to copy lotr with "the age of men (mortals) has come"
18:20 blizz wont stop making books cause thats what Danuser is known for.
27:36 somehow i thought the book they found and the book we read were two different books, so this went over my head.
dragons did alot in books, got shoved to the back in game,but the eternity well, day of the dragon ysera and malfarion etc..
Most of the Dragon Story was created by Chis Metzen and he was inspired by many Fantasy Books (LotR, Wheel of Time, Warhammer Fantasy, etc.), Movies, Marvel Comics, Lovecraft, etc.. The Story of the Tyrs Hand is similar to the Story of Beren in Tolkiens Silmarilion, the Story of the titans has connectens to the Celestials in Marvel (Celestial in the Earth?? A Titan is Azeroth?), The Eternals Story was long ago writen in comic books (in the 70s).. The Old Gods and the Murlocs come from Lovecraft, the Green Orcs and the Human Race were inspired by Warhammer Fantasy (Warcraft 1 should be an Warhammer Game. Is good they dont get the licencse in the past). Malygos also become mad because Deathwing destroys his complete Dragon Flight. The later found they wasn't dead, but he thinks it. Some stuff that fuckt the story up most in the time when it comes to': How we but it into the game? Oh we want this is cool. But what story will the have? I don't know to this... And why is this in books and comics? Make money^^ . And the writers of hte books and comics have only a little free room for their one ideas.
Also the idea of Warlords of Draenor was to get the Orcs and Draenei from the Parallel Draenor to help us agisnt the Legion (In Books and also the MoP Questline from Wrathlion). And Wrathlion dont can become an aspekt this Eclipse was in the book for Kalegos to make him the aspect of the blue dragons.. We must wait 400 Years for the next...
Chris Metzen make a new groundfounding universe and if you see the artworks there is so many from Diablo and WoW in it...
When I heard the name Tyr, I knew he was gonna lose a hand...
20:00 wait what? all that time i thought they moved Dalaran because Archimonde was about to destroy it, so they teleported it to save it
That would've been a good idea back on WC3 😂
The fact he remembered the whole story of alexander raid in final fantasy 14 is just really cool.
Oh, he’s finally back to watching platinum wow. Thank god.
Something that they could do with the lore being in the comics is they could take the books, split them into chapters and put them in the game, kinda like Elder Scrolls of Dragon Age. Also the letters used for the name Murozond can spell Nozdormu. And the thing is that as Nozdormu said when Murozond died, the moment of his death has come to pass meaning that Nozdormu will become Murozond at some point. It is inevitable.
Green Dragons - corrupted by the Old Gods (Emerald Nightmare)
Bronze Dragons - corrupted by the Old Gods (Seeing own death)
Blue Dragons - corrupted by the Old Gods (blabbering about bad magic usage)
Black Dragons - corrupted by the Old Gods (because they are bound to same earth where the old gods are imprisoned)
Red Dragons - going to be corrupted by the Old Gods? (because we changed how the cycle of life and death is seen in shadowlands - THE PURPOSE ??)
9:05 the writer first went 420 years, rolled 1 up, hitted it and talked himself right into believing they will find out why he choose 420 years. Proud of the Idea 430 Years is perfect he got a drink with some Ice for his 300 IQ writting. And because he was High AF he thought that he doesn't have to remove the fly on the 1 Icecube, because he can drink around it. "smart" In the End somehow he ended up choking on that icecube with the fly on it, inspired how this small piece of ice with a fly on it nearly killed him, he got the perfect Idea for how Galakrond could be defeated. MAYYYBEEE
The bronze flight could have put a end to the legion and old gods with ysera and alextrazas diplomacy they could have gone through all of time recruiting past and future versions of themselves and other races and make a army of literal time and become the strongest faction in existence
whenever i hear malygos i can only hear dr mobius
So the way we're going to unlock new race in Dragonflight is simply going to be "Hanging out with dragons"
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I was invited to the Cataclysm beta, and given a free digital copy of Cataclysm. It... was disappointing to say the least. They at least fixed a lot of the issues in beta [it played more like an early-access alpha test]. I quit playing during Cataclysm around v4.22, and didn't come back til BFA, then left again the day Shadowlands dropped [which was somehow more disappointing than Cata]
Neverwinter had Tiamat and it was bad ass. It can be done.
Also Zombie Breath was far more ridiculous than the way he died.
A breath so bad it turns people who smell it to zombies is just hilarious.
11:07 it's not stupid. Asmongold needs to read A Journey To The West. Random transformation magic is a cool aesthetic.
"Hanging out with dragons" as s a gate-way drug... *Nods* yup, makes sense xD
I was a bit disappointed in the Deathwing we got vs the books. Yes he truly is The Cataclysm but he also faffed off for a while, quite a while until the raid. Arthas was always present, constantly the undead monkey on our backs. Cata was a fun expansion. Cheers Asmongold!
you should know
in legends rogue questline, only rogues learn that a drakonid is using
created from dragon blood in created from mortals... and your task in vor karazan is to kill the black dragon responsible for it
his summary of this book is a amalgamation the build up to choking him is what needs to be said. It was literally the only chance they have because Galakrond keeps growing. he could literally eat multiple Protos at once.
I stg if Blizzard ever has a "final expansion" they could probably have galakrond be ressurected (since there's actively a cult attempting to do so)
and have him destroy Azeroth. (Story wise, you'd still be able to play the game, explore Azeroth, etc)
Loosing an arms is cool. At least if you are Commissar Yarrick and attach an orcish power-claw. Paladins gotta learn. Maybe in 40,000 years.
I was really disappointed with the Emerald Nightmare turning out to be mostly caused by Xavius, a fucking satyr... if it was mostly N'Zoth it would have been better but he was a "co-creator" rather than the main reason for the Nightmare existing.
Malygos being insane was yeah totally random and made no sense without the right context.
Ysera being killed off felt super anti-climactic and dumb.
It was mostly if not fully done by N'zoth. Xavius was just a pawn that carried out the plan
I'd like to point out a thing that has always bothered me that I remembered while watching this. The orc clan that deathwing gives the dragon soul to are called Dragonmaw. There are no dragons on Draenor before Deathwing goes there with his babies. How the fuck did they get that name? Were the other orcs just like, "Wtf is a dragon m8?"
@Asmogold:Neo Bahamut in final fantasy 8 was a great representation of the galatix scale of bahamut as you mentioned.