I like the content but I have just one tiny criticism for you. I turn it up to hear he draft because it's low and then when you guys comment, it seems very loud. Needs to be better balance with the sound.
3:55 "TMac was an Alpha scorer and a +++++ athlete, Wiggins was none of those things" Guys I don't think you remember what HS and college Wiggins was like. He was every bit the athlete and he was nicknamed Maple Jordan cause he was seen as the heir to Kobe as the next great scoring wing. The physical talent was all there and he had some advanced scoring skills, he just didn't have the mentality or work ethic of those greats that came before him
Yeah he was an interesting case. At the time of the draft he was in that class of elite wing. And then he only barely improved from there. The ‘22 playoffs was clearly an outlier.
@@MDK384 Yea when Embiid went down, he was supposed to step up but he kept drifting behind Brennan Greene and Perry Ellis. Never took number 1 option duties away from Wayne Selden and Frank Mason.
The funniest part about the Bojan/Bogdan thing is that Bojan wouldn't even sign his contract with the Nets for another month 😭so they had his highlight reel on draft night ready to go for whenever he eventually did
Actually, it's a pretty good draft, and idk how i forgot for a moment that this was a mcdermott draft. My dad went to creighton, so i saw him play many times. One of the all time great college players and had a better career then most think he did. Especially when you look at most the guys after him who played 2-3 years didn't do much..
i agree wiggins athleticism was overrated. He had the hops but not same foot speed as any of the greats he was compared to. But dude was still a great athlete. It sucks though we were still stuck the high school n college mixtape days that had ppl drooling over not the best prospects
I grew up a Bulls fan; I'm no longer really a Bulls fan in any meaningful way because, you know... ownership. This draft was a pretty big nail in that coffin. Punting on winning more championships because the owner and GM wanted more credit and thought they could jettison MJ, Pippen, and Phil and simply build another champion was by far the biggest nail, of course. There were three big ones in total. The third of the big three was the Vucevic trade; I talked myself into it, thinking that while I preferred Wendell Carter Jr to Vucevic - I thought WCJ was a better, more well-rounded player, more of a winning player, an easier player to build a winning starting unit with him in it than Vucevic - the saving grace of Vucevic, I thought, was that Vucevic was actually a pretty good passer. He wasn't just a low-post scorer; that's a very overrated player because that shot is so inefficient, but with Vucevic's underrated passing, he could function with other scorers and not be useless when he isn't scoring. He could even make a young PG's job easier. Then I heard picks were involved, and I wondered if maybe ORL sent us a low 1st that belonged to, like, MIL or something, and I actually would've liked that trade... but I didn't know why ORL would do that. But NOPE. The Bulls somehow sent a 1st rounder to ORL in the deal, which I didn't understand. Although no they didn't, they sent TWO 1st rounders to ORL!!! I lost my fucking mind. This draft was the 2nd; maybe not quite as bad as the 3rd, even - certainly not given that ORL used one of our 1sts to pick Franz Wagner - but it was still pretty goddamn stupid, and frustrating. Because we had two mid- to late- 1st round picks, and I wanted four guys that I expected to be available there. In order: Rodney Hood, Gary Harris, Jusuf Nurkic, and Doug McDermott. I'd've been happy with the two bottom guys (3rd and 4th) over the top guy (1st)... because that's how tiers work. But somehow we ended up *TRADING UP TO GET THE 4TH GUY!* And he ended up being a bench warmer. Hooray. (I honestly still think Hood could've been a useful NBA player, had he gone to the right situation. I could be wrong, but man I liked him coming out of college. And people love to hate on Nurkic now, but I'd argue he's a damn nice center to have... just, you know, don't pay him like a superstar. Nurkic on a rookie deal was - if I remember correctly - a fine player.)
I like the content but I have just one tiny criticism for you. I turn it up to hear he draft because it's low and then when you guys comment, it seems very loud. Needs to be better balance with the sound.
agree
3:55 "TMac was an Alpha scorer and a +++++ athlete, Wiggins was none of those things"
Guys I don't think you remember what HS and college Wiggins was like. He was every bit the athlete and he was nicknamed Maple Jordan cause he was seen as the heir to Kobe as the next great scoring wing. The physical talent was all there and he had some advanced scoring skills, he just didn't have the mentality or work ethic of those greats that came before him
Yeah he was an interesting case. At the time of the draft he was in that class of elite wing. And then he only barely improved from there. The ‘22 playoffs was clearly an outlier.
@@austingreen1274I mean he put up the same stats in 21/23 he just didn’t win a championship lol
eh, i think we kind of knew he wasn't an alpha scorer when he was at kansas. definitely an elite athlete though
@@MDK384 the numbers were there and even in the league he won rookie of the year. I just don’t think he was consistent every night
@@MDK384 Yea when Embiid went down, he was supposed to step up but he kept drifting behind Brennan Greene and Perry Ellis. Never took number 1 option duties away from Wayne Selden and Frank Mason.
The funniest part about the Bojan/Bogdan thing is that Bojan wouldn't even sign his contract with the Nets for another month 😭so they had his highlight reel on draft night ready to go for whenever he eventually did
How tf did 38-41 slid this low in the draft 😂😂😂
38 - Good Starter
39 - Good Starter
40 - Good Role Player
41- HOF
Could’ve had Giannis and Embiid on the same squad 😮
My dad thought Doug McDermott was Larry bird 2.0 😂
2014 redraft
1.Jokic (3x mvp/finals mvp)
2.Embiid(Mvp/Scoring title)
3.Randle(All nba/all star)
4.Wiggins(Roy/all star/nba champ)
5.Lavine (allstar)
6.Smart(dpoy)
7.Gordon(nba champ)
8.Clarkson(6Moy)
9.Grant
10.bojan
@@yahiaali4059 not bad but you also confused Bojan and Bogdan 😂
@@youknowball I’m ngl I been getting them confused for like 10 yrs 😭
Gordon should jump to No. 4
He doesn’t really have the accolades or counting stats but I’ll take him over jerami grant forsure
Not sure what's going on with the audio, but Trill sounds like Will Ferrell after being shot in the neck with a dart
Lol it's like an interview with a drug dealer where they have to hide their identity and modulate their voice but they forgot to blur out his face.
espn has never recovered from letting Bill go
The Wiggins slander is insane
Kawhi was 22 when he won finals mvp...
Actually, it's a pretty good draft, and idk how i forgot for a moment that this was a mcdermott draft. My dad went to creighton, so i saw him play many times. One of the all time great college players and had a better career then most think he did. Especially when you look at most the guys after him who played 2-3 years didn't do much..
Kawhi was averaging 13 6 2 not a bad comp in the slightest for Gordon coming out of college
Obviously I enjoy y'alls content but I was wondering why the voices sound deeper than usual here after a few mins in?
@@FootyInsights_ this stream video was all messed up whenever I tried to edit it. Must have been a compression thing idk!
@@youknowball No problem!
The peak of ESPN coverage, before they started discharging talent like they were allergic to it.
Bildo always wants teams to trade down LMAO
i agree
wiggins athleticism was overrated. He had the hops but not same foot speed as any of the greats he was compared to. But dude was still a great athlete. It sucks though we were still stuck the high school n college mixtape days that had ppl drooling over not the best prospects
I grew up a Bulls fan; I'm no longer really a Bulls fan in any meaningful way because, you know... ownership. This draft was a pretty big nail in that coffin. Punting on winning more championships because the owner and GM wanted more credit and thought they could jettison MJ, Pippen, and Phil and simply build another champion was by far the biggest nail, of course. There were three big ones in total.
The third of the big three was the Vucevic trade; I talked myself into it, thinking that while I preferred Wendell Carter Jr to Vucevic - I thought WCJ was a better, more well-rounded player, more of a winning player, an easier player to build a winning starting unit with him in it than Vucevic - the saving grace of Vucevic, I thought, was that Vucevic was actually a pretty good passer. He wasn't just a low-post scorer; that's a very overrated player because that shot is so inefficient, but with Vucevic's underrated passing, he could function with other scorers and not be useless when he isn't scoring. He could even make a young PG's job easier. Then I heard picks were involved, and I wondered if maybe ORL sent us a low 1st that belonged to, like, MIL or something, and I actually would've liked that trade... but I didn't know why ORL would do that. But NOPE. The Bulls somehow sent a 1st rounder to ORL in the deal, which I didn't understand. Although no they didn't, they sent TWO 1st rounders to ORL!!! I lost my fucking mind.
This draft was the 2nd; maybe not quite as bad as the 3rd, even - certainly not given that ORL used one of our 1sts to pick Franz Wagner - but it was still pretty goddamn stupid, and frustrating. Because we had two mid- to late- 1st round picks, and I wanted four guys that I expected to be available there. In order: Rodney Hood, Gary Harris, Jusuf Nurkic, and Doug McDermott. I'd've been happy with the two bottom guys (3rd and 4th) over the top guy (1st)... because that's how tiers work. But somehow we ended up *TRADING UP TO GET THE 4TH GUY!* And he ended up being a bench warmer. Hooray.
(I honestly still think Hood could've been a useful NBA player, had he gone to the right situation. I could be wrong, but man I liked him coming out of college. And people love to hate on Nurkic now, but I'd argue he's a damn nice center to have... just, you know, don't pay him like a superstar. Nurkic on a rookie deal was - if I remember correctly - a fine player.)
Blatt is one of the greatest coaches to ever coach, why speak on him like this when you know nothing about him?
Yeah, that was excessive. Man is a living legend. Wtf was this
He was not a good NBA coach….and if you were American that would pretty much be the only professional coaching skill that matters.