Which Star Wars Faction has the BEST STEALTH SHIP? | Star Wars Factions Compared
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 พ.ค. 2019
- We examine Stealth Ships of the Star Wars universe on today's episode of Star Wars Factions Compared.
Specifically, we put the Galactic Empire's Tie Phantom vs the Clone Wars Era Republic Stealth Ship, the Galactic Federation's StealthX, and the New Republic's Ferret Reconnaissance vessel.
Follow on Instagram: / eckhartsladder
& Twitter: / eckhartsladder
Music: ALISON - Gaze / Endless Reflexions / Space Echo
Bottom right ship on thumbnail by FractalSponge: fractalsponge.net/?p=448
***
🔵 ASSETS 🔵
Intro/Outro Music: Home - Resonance
Outro meme'd by: / freightmytrain
Music Playlist: goo.gl/YRzmaZ
🔵 SOCIAL MEDIA 🔵
Twitch: / eckhartsladder
2nd YT: / eckhartsladder
Twitter: / eckhartsladder
Discord: / discord
Instagram: / eckhartsladder
Merch: www.teespring.com/eckhartsladder
🔵 SUPPORT ECK 🔵
Patreon: / eckhartsladder
Paypal: www.paypal.me/eckhartsladder
Sub: goo.gl/vBao71
Join: goo.gl/5G4Xr8
🔵 SEND ME STUFF 🔵
PO Box 3271, Station East, Dartmouth NS, B2W 5G2
You can address any mail to Justin - บันเทิง
I'm on Twitter and Instagram
twitter.com/eckhartsladder
instagram.com/eckhartsladder
#AskEck
*Attempt 481*
Faction versus suggestion.
The Forerunners vs Warhammer 40k factions list.
EckhartsLadder gotta say eck this stuff is the bread and butter of this channel for me. i can go to any star wars youtuber and see lore vidoes ive heard a hundred times before but your factions compared and starship versus videos are truly unique and what keeps me coming back. sadly the starship versus has fallen off in the past year but it is still the most solid, interesting content for me. please tell me if u saw this or what you think! Keep up the great work eck👍
EckhartsLadder the Falcon was a stealth ship in episode 4
Which local faction is the best:
Naboo Security Force
Zygerians
Mandalorian Peace Force
Geonosians
#AskEck
Top five deadliest desert planets in sci-fi?
To clarify the planets should have a "breathable" atmosphere.
#AskEck
The republic stealth ship can basically do basically anything. It can take out capital ships, it can take out star-fighters, it can do recon and it can even run blockades.
Plus, from what the comics and wiki tells, it's not as expensive as the others.
Yup all the others are too expensive. An just cuz a Jedi isn't in command that Force bomb can still be deployed as a powerful mine. Or use of inertia, real world BASIC physics, to turn it into a space "dumb" bomb.
Last time I was this early, The New Republic was still an effective peace keeping force
In Legends of course
Damn
"Your eyes can deceive you, don't trust them." ~ Obi-Wan Kenobi. (Great vid as always Eck.) (In my opinion the Republic had the best stealth ship.)
Captain George Indeed.
Which republic, there were three or more incarnations of it
Jakub Borowski Clone Wars Republic
When I first heard about the TIE Phantom after playing Rebel Assault 2, I thought it was the most badass TIE variant ever designed. And when it appeared in Empire At War: Forces Of Corruption, I was super hyped for it. However, that game would also be my introduction to the TIE Defender (I had played the TIE Fighter game where it made it's actual debut, but I never got to that point because I got stuck in an earlier chapter). I see THAT thing in action, and my reaction is, "Oh, wow. This TIE is a fucking MONSTER!".
Which local faction is the best?
Naboo Security Force
Zygerians
Mandalorian Peace Force
Geonosians
E W O K S
Dude, the Geonosians are in a completely different tier. It would be fairer to compare them to factions like the Wookies and the Umbarans,
@@demi-femme4821 To be fair, Geonosians *did* have a lot of help from the C.I.S but yes, they are still powerful.
@@demi-femme4821 Maybe the Wookiees But, I think the Umbarans are on another tier and are more comparable to them.
Bill Clark Umbarans are fucking gods, period.
1. T-70 X-Wing VS E-Wing
2. Nebula Star Destroyer VS Pellaon class Star Destroyer
Lieutenant Nomad DEWIT @eck
@SonofEyeaboveall Effoff But if you look at the stats of the ship, it's not as much more advanced and deadlier than an ISD 2 as you might think.
Who thinks *the confederacy* is rather Underrated?
I do
In a way yes but I think there navy wasn't
@@TK-hr7lk Their Navy kicked ass with the Providence class cruiser.
@@AnakinSkywakka Says the Jedi
Yeah, they had some crazy quantity that isn’t being appreciated
I’ve been looking forward to this..
Oh my god finally a new factions compared! Nice video idea by the way.
I think having visual cloaking would be a pretty significant advantage, especially in combat. Outside of combat, detection normally happens at long ranges, where sensors are much more important than visual scanning. However, we see that both in fighter combat and capital ship engagements, visual observation is an important part of combat; in terms of fighters, we see, for instance, in the Battle of Yavin that the Rebel pilots in particular are heavily reliant on visual scanning to spot and track TIEs. In capital ship combat, you only have to look at the bridge of most capital ships (like the Profundity from Rogue One, or the Venator or Providence classes in the clone wars), and see those giant windows which are an obvious structural weakness that would not exist if it didn't provide some advantage.
The Phantom and the Stealth Ship would therefore have a huge advantage over the others; the Stealth Ship, for example, would be easily spotted visually if it tried to pass through a blockade with cloaking off, even if enemy sensors were inoperable. I'm not comfortable saying that the Ferret and the Stealth-X are "the best pure stealth vessels" for that reason. I also think the Stealth-X should have beaten the Ferret to the number 3 spot because it does at least have some ability to defend itself in the event that it does get spotted.
1. Scimitar
Maul was so well outfitted in Phantom Menace. Everything he had was legit. Those stealth droids, that bike, the double bladed lightsaber... but a cloaking ship that small?! The old cannon also had another version of cloaking that was double-blind but necessitated more space for the equipment that smaller ships couldn’t fit. Hybridium? “No ship that small could have a cloaking device”. The Stygian system was better because they couldn’t see you but you could still see them in addition to the ability to be used on smaller vessels but were incredibly rare and outrageously expensive.
How much of a threat would Endgame Crisises from Stellaris which are Contingency, Prethoryn Scourge, Unbidden, and the End of the Cycle at full strength be to sci fi factions from series like Warhammer, Halo, Star Wars, Starcraft, Mass Effect, Star Trek, and others?
End cycle? Haven't heard of that one.
@@TheAussieNinja84
It's called The End Of the Cycle it's basically like a Chaos God that eats the majority of your empire and spawning a bunch of avatars in your systems.
@@TheAussieNinja84 When you finish Psionic Ascension, you eventually gain access to The Shroud, which is something of a less malignant/pre-Necron Immaterium. You can communicate with entities within it about every ten years to receive RNG-based boons or curses. That, or you get a ~1/200 chance to form a covenant with one, and only one of several of those entities. The entities' names are The Weaver of Strands, The Instrument of Desire, The Eater of Worlds and The Whisperers in the Void. All of them provide substantial bonuses in one area or another, but each of them tells you: " *There* *will* *be* *a* *price* *to* *pay* ", with the price depending on your patron, and generally being managable.
Then there is the End of the Cycle. If you get it, it will offer substantial bonuses to basically everything for exactly 50 years, but below all of those bonuses it reads in friendly, red letters: "There will be a Reckoning". If you choose to accept, every one of your planets, habitats and ringworlds that you own at any point within those 50 years will receive the Shroud-Marked modifier, which reads: " *Something* *very* *bad* *is* *going* *to* *happen* *here* ".
After the 50 years are up, _something_ happens. I will not say what, but remember how I compared the Shroud to the Immaterium/Warp earlier? Just use your imagination for that one.
@@philippobitz2592 Ah, k. Wouldn't have known about this one if I hadn't heard it here tbh, don't play empires that go that route (mine tend to end up as synthetics, or start as bots).
Thanks for the explanation
For 40k and Starcraft, the Prethoryn wouldn't be that much different from Tyranids and Zerg.
I don't think the Contingency would get a lot of traction in 40k because there is not much ai for it to take over. Depending on time period it could be devastating in Star Wars (imagine if it happened during Clone Wars). I think for Star Trek it would depend whether the standard ship computers are close enough to Stellaris' sapient ones. Mass Effect's Reapers are already kinda like Contingency except that it works on organics.
Who would win?
Resurgent vs. MC 85
Bellator vs. Resurgent
Nebula vs. Pelleaon
#StarshipVersus #AskEck
Alleigance vs Punic
bellator vs resurgent is a big lmao
Kinda obvious
#AskECK what would be the best system patrol ship? Like the speed and fire power for fighting pirates and smugglers, also troop capacity for when checking out distress signals from space stations and planets.
Be neat if you did a video about this.
Crusader class gunship because it is literally perfect and amazing in every way.
Carrack cruiser. Heavy armament, as fast as an X-wing, lots of tractor beams.
The only drawback is it’s lack of star fighter carrying capacity.
#askeck
How could the rebel alliance have won the battle of Hoth?
That would be an interesting video
By using some actual battle tactics, instead of just fighting them head-on. The AT-ATs are powerful and durable, but they move slow and can only fire at things in front of them. By hiding some powerful weapons on the sides of the battlefield and waiting for them to go by before launching a surprise attack, they can safely hammer at them from the sides and from behind. Also, don't fly the snow speeders in front of them, instead have them circle around to attack them from the sides and from behind. And maybe put some bombs on the snow speeders so they can do some real damage. Or just use X-wings instead of the snow speeders to tear them apart.
@@colinrueth4695
X-Wings and Y-Wings (and maybe A-Wings, at least in legends they had them before Hoth).
The fighters were far more powerful than the modified T-47 speeder so here is how I imagine the conversation for the defense of the evacuation of Hoth went:
low ranking officer "General, We have no time to pack up the T-47 Speeders for evacuation, so should we blow them up and tell the pilots to defend us in their X-Wings, Y-wings (and maybe A-Wings)?"
General "No lets use the much less powerful T47 and have any suviving pilots run to their X/Y/A-Wings to escape after the battle"
Low ranking officer "Sir are you sure, The X-Wings and Y-Wings are faster, more agile, far better armed, better armored and have sheilds, the pilots would be much more likely to suvive and much better able to defend us in X-Wings or Y-Wings, not to mention that there may be too tew suviving pilots to take away the snubfighters meaning we could loose a lot of our grounded snubfighters"
General "you have your orders"
Low ranking officer "yes sir" walks away and mutters "idiot"
I loved the Clone Wars stealth ship episodes because it was shot like a submarine movie.
Tarkin had one of those stealth ships in the new canon novel focused on him.
Which faction has the best spider bike:
Republic BARC
CIS Stap
Rebels & Emipre 74-z
I never understood why they Empire looked like they literally took a step back when it came to speeders. Like what the fuck?
The 74-z looks primitive, far simpler, cheaper, lower-quality, and even just civilian-grade. The BARC looks fucking hot and is clearly a superior, advanced, military speeder.
Clone fanboy
Don't know about you but i pictured a spider riding a bicycle and it's hilarious
@@prophetofbeans6781 Yeah i thought it was a spider that was also a bike
@@blobfish_plays6548 ewewewew no god why lol
I wish The Tie Phantom has more media attention.
Hell I love Tie Phantoms and there should have a Plastic Model kit design.
One thing about the Stealth-X that you missed, it used special engines and/or fuel that greatly reduced the engine efflux trail, one of the easiest ways for enemy spotters or gunners to detect the ship with the scanners we all have from birth, the Model one, Mark zero Eyeball.
Where was the Darth Jar Jar Spaceship called X1 Binksons ?!
Looks like no one saw it.. seems okeydokey steahlty for me!
Interdictors. Multiple factions have them & I’ve submitted this before MULTIPLE Times ! ! !
List your number of tries
Lost count, Darth Hitler, but they go back to when he first started & such.
Damn
I would have a stealth ship made like Mass Effect's Normandy SR2, have the Republic stealth ship's cloaking device, class 0.5 hyperdrive, 6-8 medium turbo laser's, 10-12 point defense laser's, 4 proton torpedo launcher's with 15 torpedoes in each, and have something like a light mac cannon up front for heavy damage with a pilot, co-pilot, and 8 ship maintenance crew with a troop capacity of 50-60 trooper's
its main role is recognizance and sneaking into enemy territory while possible dropping off supplies, armor and personnel/troop's into enemy territory
9:39 That is briliant.
The D’Deridex class warbird obviously is the top spot! :P
Anyways, good to see a factions compared episode again. Perhaps a follow on would compare the stealth tech of different franchises?
How do micro-hyperspace jumps work, especially when compared to regular hyperspace jumps? More specifically, how do they work in the heat of battle? #askeck
Video suggestion:
Legends Tie Defender vs. X-83 Twintail
My favorite is the Republic Stealth ship because the episode of tcw was amazing
Yes! A new factions compared video, this is what got me into your channel. Keep up the good work and enjoy your vacation.
Also good choice I've always wondered about stealth ships in the Sci-fi especially Star Wars.
I would just like to say for posterity that I love the Scimitar to bits. It's my favourite stealth ship, with the phantom coming second.
I've been brainstorming a Mech comparison, Battletech vs Metal Gear, specifically Rex. Might be fun to explore in a one on one manner.
Yes! Do more factions compared! Do a factions compared of light recon vehicles shush as ghost, at-rt, 74-Z speeder, etc.
I wish we got more of those clones on the Republic stealth ship, I really liked their armor and could see them in a spec ops role
Rogue Shadow is an underrated stealth ship.
Great to see the series return
I'd still love to see a direct comparison of the Nebulon B and Carrack light cruiser... Please?
for someone who's supposed to be on vacation, you sure keep pumping out a lot of awesome vids Eck!
Love your videos, thank you for creating this, keep up the amazing work.
Always wondered why the republic stopped using the stealth ship. Thing could’ve won so many battles
Too expensive and experimental I'd guess.
Very happy that you're back :)
Pre-Jaylah Borg vs the Forerunners and Ancient Humanity.
AKA the ones that were physically stronger than organics and could adapt to technology and weapons extremely quickly and can self repair ships.
Anti-Trekker did plenty of videos on the Pre-Jaylah Borg and how powerful they truly were.
The Borg at the start appears on the edge of the galaxy and starts with 250,000 Borg cubes where they at first bulid stations and other Borg platforms in near by systems and at this point they at first expand slowly but after their discovered they start expanding aggressively due to seeing the Forerunners and Humanity as a threat.
the addition of the copilot for the tie phantom also gives it a significant advantage in everything from astronavigation to weapons handling to sensor usage. in a way, a copilot for a starfighter is like a hyperintelligent, highly useful r series astromech
I feel that this video, in mentioning the Republic Stealth Ship, overlooked it's progeny - Tarkin's Carrion Spike. It was one of the most advanced corvettes the Empire had ever produced in it's time.
Awesome video!
Your ends with the Doggo is always Great!
Wow! Been a while for a factions compared!
Could you do a full breakdown of stealth in the star wars universe, the history and maybe talking about all the different stealth ships
Yes, I missed this series!
Great video as always eck. Could we see a "best lightsaber" matchup?
I think this is a fair assessment of these four ships when accounting for the ship itself and not the pilots/crew
I approve with number 1 for that's my scout ship in my fleet and if I had the time have it fairy orbital reaching gun parts to the surface and when the fight begins well you get the picture
YOU ARE BACK!!! Finally some good internet content
You could have used the Vengeance Class Frigate used by the Zann Consortium. Great video though. Stealth ships are underrated.
100% agree on your conclusions here. You should definitely do a comparison on some personal ships too. The ghost (not sure on exact stealth systems, but hera seemed to indicate the ship itself beyond her own skills was well-equipped for escaping sensors and whatnot) and the scimitar both come to mind.
I would have to agree with your list. I also highly agree, and said the same in other chats, that the stealth ship would be an awesome smuggler ship. Even without the cloak it would still be good. There were a decent number of TIE Phantoms that went "missing" after the fall of the Empire, I'm surprised none of them ended up in the hands of bounty hunters.
Intro song is resonance by home and at 9:04 the song is space echo by a.l.i.s.o.n
Which faction was Darth Maul when he used his stealth ship?
Astro Bot sith
Darth Maul was mostly independent.
As much as I grumble about the TIE/PH being second, I do agree, since it would have a hard time taking out a capital ship, and it cannot ferry supplies.
Hey Eck! I am playing Star Wars empire at war Forces of corruption, and I'm currently defending Dagobah from the Emprie! It turns out when you say Rebel Alliance pilots are supreme against imperial pilots, you weren't kidding! I just took out four commanders, including Thrawn, and I have the complete momentum in starfighters! These bucketheads have played into the palm of my hand!
Oh how I have missed this
I would have liked to hear your take on Tarkin's Carrion Spike.
Probably one of my favorite factions compared in awhile
I so miss this videos. :)
Ferret, Hyena, Vulture, etc. you should make a video on these fantastical Star Wars creatures that inspire the ships.
The Tie Phantom was the true phantom menace
Which Sci-fi Faction has the best Walker | Mantis(Halo), AT-TE(star wars), Goliath(Starcraft), Geth Colossus(Mass Effect)
Star wars: the ferret is a non combat ship with weak hull and no weapons that sits in one place for long periods of time.
Real life: ferrets are agile predators with tough bodies and sharp teeth combined with an effective combat style, they are also incredibly energetic and can't stand still for long.
Tie phantom is definitely my favorite of these in fact ties in general
A ship that might have been put on the list is an old republic ship that the sith empire used known as the X-70B Phantom. It had limited cloaking capability, but what made it formidable was it's profile and extensive sensor suites. Point of fact the F-35 Lightening would be the modern day equivalent as it may not have the best physical radar cross section when compared to the F-22 and F-117, but it's multi-spectral radar array can be utilized to inhibit enemy radar detection by sending phantom blips or even straight up jamming it by overloading the data input and causing radar to read nothing. The X-70B's sensor suite would probably be able to the same if not more sense it's built and given to only intel operatives or highly important individuals such as Dark Council members and those with in Sith Intelligence. People who employ such tech in this manner to get closer for intel gathering and/or surgical strikes and to slip away or interfere in weapons tracking before jumping out the of the engagement zone.
b wing vs tie defender next would be neat
Just love the Tie Phantom
i would like to see a covenant fleet vs imperial fleet comparison
Now the Ferret would have been a great explanation for how the "galaxy fleet" found Exegol.
Better then the whole tracking beacon thing.
Could you talk more about the Scimitar? I can't find much info about it and would love to learn more.
i almost didnt see this video go up
#AskEck
could you play a game called Stellaris in the future, there are even some excellent starwars mods, hope you consider it
Or just the base game w/o the mods, Stellaris is tough enough for a beginner to understand without the extra stuff from mods.
Its basically a more interesting spreadsheet
I mostly agree with you, except I would have the tie phantom and the republic stealth ship switch places
There is also the Rogue Shadow, the personal starship of Darth Vader's secret apprentice Galen Marek which he used in his assassination missions for Vader, which it's stealth technology and design are based on Darth Maul's Scimitar Sith infiltrator.
Could you do a video on the best Outsider factions? By that I mean factions that are very alien to those of like the protagonists of whatever (Think the Vong or Dominion from Star Trek)
Vs matchup
Brute or Brute chieftain from Halo vs A Predator from the Predator franchise. With 2 rounds First round unarmed and unarmored. Second round fully armed and armored
Wouldn't a Predator be pretty similar to an Elite?
@@AnakinSkywakka Not really. Elites aren't killing machines, but more of a perfect match to Cheif. The Predators are not as intelligent with armor not as strong. I'd go on I just don't care enough
@@US_of_A I mean, they both appear similar, use similar gear and both have a sense of honor.
Vid idea:
Idk if uve done it, but u cud do the best small ground vehicle (ie not tanks or atats etc)
Despite the stealth ship of Republic Clone era is first prototype, it performs really well
My favorite type of ship
Isn't the Executor able to cloak? Or rather certain ones can. So an Executor with a Tie Phantom compliment. Shivers
I think the Phantom outpaces the stealth ship for one very important reason: they were mass produced. The stealth ship was used only in a handful of missions that it was suited for. The Phantom on the other hand would have been a major boost to the Empire's military might, on par with that of the Dark Trooper project. The Rebellion seemed ready to max out their life insurance plans should the TIE Phantom project be completed (although between Dark Forces and Rogue One, that seemed to be a monthly occurrence), the stealth ship on the other hand seemed to be only a source of minor irritation to the CIS with the odd Admiral being outsmarted by the crew.
Now all we need to do is add the updated tech from the other 3 ships to the Clone Wars' era stealth ship.
You should have included Thrawns asteroids & Star Destroyers in the discussion. Maybe even the one Pellaeon used. And technically, the Eye of Palpatine was also a stealth ship.
Best Cloaked ship...that's got to be the Vengeance Class Frigate of the Zaan Consortium...tears through hostile forces quite handily even without having any Shields itself, later upgrades to be able to cloak itself making surprise attacks more devastating, throwing the enemy fleets formation into disarray.
I think the TIE Phantom is the best one. Starfighters with 5 laser cannons (2 of which the gunner can aim somewhat independently of the ship's direction) can do a lot of damage to capital ships. Gun turrets are going to have a very hard time attacking maneuverable, shielded fighters appearing out of nowhere. But I do get your point about the versatility of a cloaking corvette. A bomber version of the TIE Phantom could be rad, though.
BTW About your questions: I am pretty sure the cloaking ships are actually intended to be cloaking ships. They even have stories behind them about them cloaking.
The Empire had a prototype cloaking CR-90, BTW.
Oh fuck yeah! The Tie phantom!!!
I'd like to point out that Stealth-Xs could use other types of ordinance, such as two-stage bunker busters and glop bombs.
wasnt there a feret class used during the yuuzhan yong war that while ignored, was detected by the vong due to using gravimetric based sensors?
Big fan
Another stealth corvette was used by moff tarkin in the tarkin novel.
Will you ever do one on the Imperial aces? Soontir Fel, Maarek Steele, Turr Phennir?
Agree with list and no.1 spot, for me when cloaked it's the only ship capable of transporting a good amount of passengers/cargo, which if I had a stealth ship would be it's no.1 use, secretly transporting people/goods!!
No ship that small can have a cloaking device.
That raises a good question: have we ever seen any large ships, capital ships maybe, with cloaking devices?
@@TheYargonaut It would be so awesome if Star Destroyers had cloaks. The stormtroopers can sing war songs as they pounce on their enemies.
@@TheYargonaut In the Empire At War expansion pack Tyber Zahn's capital ship could cloak. They also had cloaking frigates. Outside of that, the biggest cloaking ship I've seen is Goto's yacht from KotOR 2.
My favorite Tie all around is the Phantom.
Personal favourite: The Carrion Spike
what game footage is used when he's talking about the tie phantom?
Resergant battlecruiser vs nebula star destroyer
The clone wars one also looks cool.
It would be great if you added the scimitar, and compared it to other singular stealth ships.
The ferrets, stealth X's, and Ties were mass-produced compared to the Scimitar and stealth ship.