This story is about someone falsely prosecuted and convicted for a crime she did not commit, as found in a Supreme Court. This is about exoneration and helping others wrongfully convicted. This story is not about someone sadly horrifically murdered.
Sarah Buckingham This case is not about misogyny, or Amanda being a whore, or her “supposedly” being in love or her smoking pot. The case is about a mountain of incriminating evidence that points to 3 people at the cottage, 3 guilty, 2 of them murderers, a massive million $ PR campaign by the Knoxes & a group called the Friends of Amanda that controlled the American media & social media. All of this to keep a lying murderer, Amanda Knox out of jail. Italians believe Raffaele & Amanda are guilty b/c they read the court case coverage in the newspapers daily. Raffaele is shunned. Americans believe the PR lies that Amanda is not guilty. She is a celebrity only in US.
About Amanda Knox' lies. A first important point is that Amanda Knox did not just "lie during an interrogation". She did indeed spin a story falsely incriminating Patrick Lumumba, but she didn't do that during an interrogation: her false accusation was a protracted and repeated behaviour. It went on long after the interrogation. Indeed Knox went on spinning false stories - not just accusing Lumumba but also threatening Sollecito - that this is protracted behaviour is a first important point to bear in mind, yet still not the main point. - By the way I also note that her written memoriales are not the work of a person who is weak and naive to the point of having lost mental control, no longer able to concoct and organize a tortuous manipulation. Her memoriale is a sophisticated and highly controlled text, it is the manifest attempt by a person still in full rational control; anyway, any theory of Amanda being weak and naive and psychologically coerced should be backed with evidence. It should be proven, you cannot just postulate or guess that a person lies because is psychologically weak, with no evidence. And yet as I said this is still not the main point. A rather more significant point is Knox's actual position in the trial. her actual claims. The fact that Knox, at the preliminary hearing and trial, did NOT claim that she had lied, under pressure. That was not her position at the trial at all. On the contrary, she claimed that she had not lied ad all, and told that she suffers of a false memory syndrome. Her defence called a psychiatist from a Rome university to testify to support her claim. Your might have played the card about psychological weakness and coercion if Knox had brought a story of psychological coercion to the trial. She did not. she brought up a story of a false memory syndrome. So, the lack of consistency in her own explanations about her behaviour is a point more important than what she said during an interrogation. This is not, however, the only contradiction from Knox in her own defense. But a further and more relavant fact is that Amanda Knox did not lie only when falsely accusing Lumumba. She simply told a huge load of lies, above all before the interrogation. Her whole "story" about having showers in bloody bathroom and carrying mops through the town is a mass of lies. There is no piece of it consistent with any other or with any piece of reality. And then she also lied subsequently: after the trial, in her public declarations, and in her book. She's a systematic liar. One further element to note, is that we are not talking about just one liar; wre are talking about two. Not just Amanda Knox, but also Sollecito always lied. And it is now and an established judicial truth that "all his versions are lies". Sollecito told lies in his changing versions during interrogations, he told proven lies in his book (a Judge forced him and Gumbel to admit that his book was fictional), and he tells lies today. Before any other consideration, any person would ask themselves why two "innocent" people should tell lie all the time - that's not exactly what innocent people do. I won't get into further detalis anout all the dimensions and the steps of Knox lying about accusing Lumumba and about the rest (including her Dec. 17th interrogation, etc.) because it would get too long. About Rudy Guede: he did not act alone. Note: this is, by the way, a fact established definitively by the last verdict. But it is just a proven fact - it is evidence whoever wants to look into it - that this murder was phisically committed by more than one person. It is a fact that it would be impossible for a single perpetrator to commit this crime. Forget about Introna's theory, which is unrealistic and inconsistent with findings and was rightly dismissed by the judge. Meredith Kercher was killed by multiple perpetrators. While Knox is officially proven to have been certainly present at the murder. Knox, actually, did indeed take part physically to the killing action - she was not just an observer - but still, bear in mind that even a "passive" observer would bear responsability, because Meredith Kercher did not die on the spot. She died of blood loss after an agony of ten minutes or more. Not just the physical perpetrators, but even a hypothetical passive observer who happened not to call for help would be a person committing a serious life-threatening or deadly offense,
I was wrongfully charged with 8 felonies and 3 misdemeanors and I can tell you it's terrifying looking down that barrel. It doesn't end after your found not guilty. It will haunt you the rest of your life. The justice system is so wrong even when they say in court we find you not guilty as if there was guilt in the first place. It is said incent until proven guilty but instead they say we find the defendant not guilty instead of we find the defendant inocent.
@Bran Man24 - I’m sorry, not only for what happened to you, but also for most people choosing not to believe stories like yours exist. May I ask, how are you?
this case was messed up in so many ways. I listened to the italian investigator and his work was just based on his opinions and assumptions. Not hard evidence. She may well have done it and may be a psychopath. But saying things like he noticed the body was covered and only a woman would think to do that is dumb. Anyone is capable of anything.
I agree completely. It seems no one involved in this case shows any sign of intelligence. Not the journalist, not the investigator, not the idiot who took a shit in someone else's home. This whole thing is fucked up! They should've done the trial in England not Italy.
The people who ran the investigation should he under investigation themselves. The second time she was found guilty was due to behaviour and relationships if i remember hearing rightly. Now thats just a shambles. Also the allegations that the girl was killed in a sadistic sex game and he even got people to act out how he apparently knew it played out?
No bc it was still fresh, but there was a bloody bare footprint, and someone had taken a shower. They shouldve sized the print. The footprints matched her and solecito, They found the murder weapon in solecitos house and his dna on the bra clasp.
***** I doubt it, I think they got it right the first time, there were two bloody footprints that matched Amanda and her bf, and the murder weapon was found at her bfs house. A bare footprint is just as good as a fingerprint in my eyes.
Perhaps you should review her account of how the interrogation went down. Lumumba was never mentioned until after the police found the SMS exchange between he and Amanda. The police interpreted it to mean they were meeting the night of the murder, and the coerced her to implicate him. When she wouldn't tell them what they wanted to her, policewoman Donnino, who was acting as an interpreter, suggested to her she was suffering from traumatic amnesia, going so far as to tell her of her own experience with such a thing. She then asked Amanda to imagine what might have happened. As for "let him stay in jail for 4 weeks", you do realize she had no control over any of it, right? She did retract her statement the following day, but she could never say Lumumba had nothing to do with it. All she could say was she wasn't there and had no idea who committed the crime. It was the police, who had absolutely nothing on Lumumba, who kept him locked up. Even after multiple people came forward and said they saw him at his pub the police refused to let him go. The real question is why did the police hold him for that long without a shred of evidence against him, and why did they ignore the witnesses who put Lumumba at his pub?
I like to come visit videos on her ever once in awhile. There was never one piece of evidence to show her being guilty of anything but being a weird person who doesn't know how to act when bad things happen. I would go as far as saying she is a functional narcissist or possibly even psychopath, but that does not make you guilty of anything. There was evidence left and found of one person who came in probably to steal, but then killed her. Tons of his DNA. Everything that they had to try and put the crazy story in was just the crazy thoughts of the Italian guy and he tried to make up DNA evidence, but you believe this you are really crazy. Everyone now knows this was bullshit and most likely contaminated or even tried to be planted. It is scary to know how many would convict someone of murder or worse death simply because someone is different than the norm. It is really sad actually. Evidence, facts, and logical thinking. THese are common sense things. YOu don't look at a person and say well she is acting funny. She kissed her bf, she must have had a satanical ritual and made them kill that girl. WTF? lol This was the craziest shit I have ever heard of. The lawyer for the actual person guilty was mad his guy got convicted as was dumb enough to show how stupid he was on camera. When asked if he thought his guy had a fair trial he said look who is out and who is in. He then said that in his country there was law and order while people were still in caves in the US. This is crazy funny because everyone from the US that is there now, there ancestors came from Europe. What he said made no sense at all. As if the ancestors of the current people where the Indians. lol WTF. Our family most likely left Europe because of hardship and possbily terribly flawed justice systems like the Italian one.
John Tate I'm not saying she's guilty of murder, I believe the evidence. I don't personally think she did it. I sometimes wonder if she knew more then she lets on but I definitely believe she didn't do it! I also believe the media hype everything up and painted her to be crazy. I do however get the feeling (and this is only a feeling) she never cared her house mate was murdered.
+C Bird There's no reason to think she never cared her housemate was murdered. She was almost immediately put in a position where she was fighting for her own life and that changes everything. Debra Milke was convicted of killing her 4 or old son without one shred of evidence, she spent 24 yrs in prison, 22 of that on death row, when she was finally exonerated she realized she had never been able to grieve the loss of her son because she was put in the position she was, so it may seem Knox didn't care but it could have been the position she was in.
cfcreative1 How often do you honk when you walk into your home:" hummm I think a murder may have happened I better look around." What you act like when something like this happens... no one knows. You can speculate but shock is different for everyone. I don't know if she is or isn't guilty, but the evidence isn't there. She is one smart chick to have Rudy'sDNA AND FINGERPRINTS but not to leave hers or Rafaels. Plenty of people have admitted guilt when innocent, watch making a murderer if you don't believe that!
She found the door unlocked when she got home, feces in the toilet, a window broken and blood scattered around the bathroom and she didn't notice it? Unfortunately because the investigation was bungled we won't know the truth unless someone comes forward with evidence or a confession.
cfcreative1 If you were a woman, you would have had your period or you would shave and your bathroom floormat would have been OFTEN looking like a murder scene ;)
I am never going to Italy again now that I know how unprofessional their police and prosecutors are. I would be scared to go to prison for nothing during my holiday. Lol
I agree and I’m Italian. You can’t even guarantee you’re mail won’t be tampered with or you can get something done in a government office without slipping someone a bribe.
He isn't the actual killer. According to his trial he was an accomplice. How can he be his own accomplice? That's right, the murderers got away with it.
They were declared accomplices in a trial they weren't allowed to defend themselves in, that's a total violation of their civil rights and just one of the things being reviewed by ECHR now. There was never any evidence they participated in that murder in any way so if there were accomplices it wasn't Knox and Sollecito but in reality the only forensic evidence in the murder room was the victim and Guede.
It isn't about the murder as much as it is about wrongful conviction and the feeding frenzy of the press. Have you seen the documentary? The Kerchers were handled with the utmost of respect and just so you know, they were asked to be a part of this documentary and they declined.
***** That website you listed is a notorious hate Knox site and little there is the truth, they may list the court documents but they aren't going to tell you they have been annulled and not worth the paper it's written on. Are you under the assumption that multipole judges can't make a wrong decision? First of all it wasn't 30 judges that found Knox guilty since the 2nd set and 4th set acquitted her but during the Monster of Florence case at least 4 innocent people were convicted by many judges so it happens and it did in this case.
The media sensationalized the case so much that it became more about convicting Amanda (with wildly insufficient evidence) and less about getting justice for Meredith.
Grace Murphy exactly right my only concern is for Meredith and her family. Not Amanda as I believe she is guilty just like everyone else. Only a few think she did not do it and they are wrong.
Damn ! She gave a lot of interviews all these years . So weird to speak about your "trauma" all the time. Does she have a pinch of restraint about Meredith family ?
Divinity Dance yeah.. cuz after having millions of people bully you online for years , the world watching judging commenting without asking for any of it and btw here you are watching! She wants to speak cresting her own narrative and there was NO evidence! Ugh..the narcissist is you!
If I as wrongfully convicted of something, I would be throwing it out to everyone for the rest of my life that it was wrongfully........and if she was wrongfully convicted, she is infact a victim as well, just a different kind of victim. The verdict on this women, who the hell knows, I wouldn't close the book on anything but they have to go by evidence.
According to an interview with The Observer (via The Guardian) following that acquittal, Lumumba believes Knox was found not guilty because of status and appearances. “Amanda is free because she is American, but Americans are human like everybody," Lumumba said. As of last year, the 43-year-old Lumumba was living in Krakow, Poland with his wife. He has alleged that Knox's accusation and his involvement in this case lost him his business and made it impossible to find another job in Perugia. “What Amanda did I don’t know, but I think she knows why Meredith died," Lumumba told The Guardian.
What Lumumba says to the press and what he said under oath in court are two entirely different things. It wasn't Knox who kept his business closed for 3 months after he was released from his two week custody by the police. That was the prosecutor. Knox clearly told the police in writing on Nov. 3, the day after her arrest, that she could not know who killed Meredith as she had never gone back to the cottage on Nov. 1. The police chose to keep him in jail for two weeks with NO evidence whatsoever.
It appears from all I have watched on Merediths Kurhcers murder, never once does Amanda Knox show any sorrow at the horrendous murder of her housemate, a lot of things do not add up. Only 4 people know the real truth and one cant speak for themselves. RIP Meredith 😢
Even if she didn't stick the knife in, she knows what went down, but is keeping her mouth shut. Why blame someone else for the crime like she did? I don't believe her. Everything she says is forced and unnatural.
You don't have to believe her, she's still innocent. Don't you even wonder why the police broke the law and didn't record the interrogation? Doesn't it seem like they may have been trying to hide something?
Harr Risasss the police broke the law by interrogating her for days without break. There's a reason it's not done like that in the states because it causes false statements. Statements caused under duress normally get thrown out.
sarah j. Well this is just plain wrong. Instincts can be wrong. Amanda wasn't in the room and someone else (Rudy) was. Why ignore overwhelming evidence such as DNA inside the victim and bloody hand prints over instincts? Rudy Gudea (sp?) is the murderer not Rafael or Amanda.
Harr Risasss doesn't change the fact that the confession was coerced. Also I believe she was convicted of saying they beat her while she was being interrogated. The only thing Amanda was truly guilty of was being an American citizen on foreign soil. No evidence what so ever led to her acquittal. For God sakes they found a mans semen inside Meredith and his palm prints everywhere! How did Amanda clean everything that was her and Rafaels but leave Rudy's? This case wouldn't of worked in America, Canada, UK or Australia because they know you can't be convicted because the prosecution "has a feeling" of guilty.
In the American justice system we have so many examples of this. Barry Beach for one. He lost nearly 40 years of his life based on a coerced confession. Hes FINALLY free, but you dont get those years back.
lambchopxoxo she is a murderer and you know it she will get nudged when she dies and so will you for lying saying she is innocent when everyone knows she is a murderer. All you idiots who think she did not do it, I bet you have never spared a thought once about poor Meredith and her family have you?
The Knox PR campaign hitched a ride on the popular bandwagon of “coerced confessions by police”. This has been proven completely false by the Italian Supreme Court and just recently by the ECHR. The sad part is, there are actually some in prison who were coerced. That number is very low and is mainly lower intelligence people who are intimidated. It is also more likely to be someone of a racial minority.
The sad part about Knox's story is how she has obtained ill gotten fame off a murder of a young woman. I swear Americans glorify the wrong things. This story should be about Meredith, and now her legacy will be entangled in what seems like a very out of touch Knox.
Knox didn't obtain anything, she didn't do anything. She simply existed while a story unfolded around her, a story about an incompetent police department that failed to figure out a raped and murdered female student was killed by their own local knife carrying burglar while they hastily jumped to wrong conclusions about her roommate.
Clearly you didn't''t read my comment very well. The point of my comment had nothing to do with Knox. AGAIN, a young woman died was the overall point. So I say again, Americans glorify the wrong things.
Knox is the only reason you or anyone else knows the name Meredith Kercher, regardless of what country you are from. If the Italians had caught her killer swiftly (Rudy Guede) the case would be long forgotten.
You just proved my point! The case was sensationalized because it became the poor American girl killed the British girl - Give me a break! And for the record I was living in England, (and I am American) - So I was aware of the murder way before Knox was suspected as a killer. When a Brit abroad dies overseas it always makes the news. So miss me with BS, and do ever question me on my knowledge!
You're welcome to your opinion. HOWEVER, I highly disagree, and a back and forth debate on it is not going to make me change it. Now if you don't mind, I don't get paid debate on TH-cam (as much I'd like to be). Have a good one -- Ciao!
One person left seamen inside the victim, left blood and fingerprints. Clearly not the guilty party. Two people with absolutely no evidence or motives are clearly the guilty party. One with the evidence got 16 years. The two with none got 25 and 26 years. How does that make sense?!?
GerMart Amanda could have gotten less than her 26 yrs. had she told the truth & plead guilty. She will forever be known as the murderer who escaped justice.
@GerMart We turn these documents everywhere. Here are the sentences and all the material available on this horrendous murder themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Main_Page truejustice.org/ee/
If someone is innocent and accused, they feel vulnerable to prove their innocence, but if someone is guilty, they feel desperate to prove their innocence. It happened to Knox; she is desperate! If she is innocent, why does she bother with what the world is thinking?
The evidence speaks for itself and it all points to Rudy Guede, the burglar who broke in, made himself at home as he did in previous strange break ins, and was interrupted by Meredith who could identify him, and sexually assaulted and killed her. Very simple case until Mignini distracted away from Rudy since he probably sent him there to look at Filomena's laptop to begin with.
All the double blood/DNA Knox/Kercher evidence and the admission statement of Knox admitting freely and voluntarily without undue influence that she was present in the murder house at the time of the commission of the murder of Meredith Kercher and that her admission statement is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, makes you thing beyond a reasonable doubt that Knox is guilty. There are also 2 murder knives/weapons with Knox blood/DNA on them to corroborate her presence in the murder room at the time of commission of the murder of Meredith Kercher. Her finding of not guilty was motivated by American politics.
People want to believe she did it because it makes for a good story. If you really look into it, though, there's no evidence that she had any involvement at all. It was the press getting over excited with salacious stories to sell papers, and an ineffective police force who made mistakes and crumbled under pressure. "There's just something that makes me not believe her" is a harmful, ignorant way of thinking and is the cause of all this.
Crazy the Italian police had no idea. That's messed up. Look at the three boys from Arkansas. They was wrongfully accused and had them out of prison after 25 years in prison. Horrible!! Amanda didn't do anything that's sad thank god she came back home.
According to an interview with The Observer (via The Guardian) following that acquittal, Lumumba believes Knox was found not guilty because of status and appearances. “Amanda is free because she is American, but Americans are human like everybody," Lumumba said. As of last year, the 43-year-old Lumumba was living in Krakow, Poland with his wife. He has alleged that Knox's accusation and his involvement in this case lost him his business and made it impossible to find another job in Perugia. “What Amanda did I don’t know, but I think she knows why Meredith died," Lumumba told The Guardian.
Has anyone seen a video of Amanda Knox or Raffaele Sollecito showing even a smidgen of anguish for Meredith Kercher? If there is could someone post a link to it?
It amazes me how so people still think she's guilty. At first I did too, but after reading five books on the case now think she's innocent. Her Italian roommates immediately lawyered up. Meredith's English friends immediately flew home. Rudy Guede fled to Germany. But Amanda did nothing even when her mother told her to leave Italy. That was her mistake.
Does this make you feel better, ipsos? Yes, she was never exonerated because she was never convicted in the first place. You leave that part out. She WAS, however, fully and definitively acquitted of murder, of stealing Meredith's money or of staging a break-in. What the Supreme Court was doing when they made this ruling is to make it clear Guede, and ONLY Guede, broke in, sexually assaulted Meredith, murdered her and then stole her money without actually coming out and stating the Supreme Court that finalized Guede's conviction made some glaring errors in the process.
@@cavid8066 You really should know what you're talking about before you make such ridiculous claims. An student exchange program is a program in which students from a secondary school or university study abroad at one of their institution's partner institutions. UW and Perugia's University for Foreigners had an exchange program and Amanda enrolled in it. Ergo, she was an exchange student. A tourist is a person who is traveling or visiting a place for pleasure. As Amanda was in Perugia as part of the exchange program, she was not a tourist. I can only imagine you think this was somehow demeaning or insulting to Amanda, but all you did is prove you have have an anti-Amanda agenda. I'm a little surprised you didn't also claim that Meredith was enrolled in the "prestigious" Erasmus programme. Now THAT would be "a blatant lie so often repeated", as virtually anyone can participate if they wish. But those who wish to put Meredith on a pedestal while belittling Amanda rarely are concerned with the truth.
@@levdavid2412 Read the ruling. They are referring to her interrogation statement that places her there. The ECHR has subsequently ruled Amanda's rights were violated during that interrogation and so that statement has been nullified. There is no evidence of her being there at the time of the murder, but there is plenty of circumstantial evidence that strongly suggests she was not. And yes, they did ascertain her degree of participation - zero. Perhaps you've forgotten Amanda and Raffaele were definitively acquitted of all charges related to the murder.
I don't know if she's guilty, but I had to talk to detectives before, as a victim of a crime, and let me tell you, they were just incompetent, and not trustworthy at all. The 2nd time I talked to them (same 2 people), they claimed I didn't mention a detail to them the 1st time. My friend was present both times, and she confirmed that I in fact mentioned that detail to them during our 1st conversation. Then they didn't let me see the report, my own statement, they would only show it to a lawyer. The evidence of the crime was never examined, it was probably destroyed. The justice system often doesn't work.
I suspect you might have a different perspective on what it means to be a victim should you ever spend four years in prison for a crime you didn't commit. Meredith was the victim of a sexual assault and murder by Guede. Amanda and Raffaele were the victims of a rogue prosecutor who was unwilling to admit his mistakes when he jumped to a conclusion without even waiting for a shred of forensic evidence to come in.
@@TheTruthCalls you still gotta admit she never really showed any compassion towards Merediths gruesome murder and only ever pittied herself. She shows some very narcissistic character traits and even wrongly accused her chef. I may be wrong, but I don't trust her. Someone who wrongly accuses someone else of murder and is willing to let the person stay for 25 years in prison is capable of anything.
At the beginning of this terrible event I remember reading that her parents told her repeatedly to live Italy... She didn't!... Ruddy flee to Germany only A DAY after the murder... She is intelligent enough to supposedly orchestrate a burglary gone wrong but she KEEPS the knife she supposedly used to kill Meredith?!... There was supposedly MIXED BLOOD of Amanda and Meredith found in the bathroom, bathroom they SHARED... WHERE are the photos of the wounds Amanda would have sustained fighting with Meredith in order to leave mixed DNA?! And WHY wasn't Amanda's DNA found ON Meredith or IN Meredith’s bedroom?!... Or did the Italian police conveniently lost those pictures too?!... In another Documentary Sarah Gino, forensic biologist explains it very well. They ONLY tested for blood NEVER for saliva which could have very well be what was mixed with Meredith's blood... On the other hand, Ruddy DID have cuts and wounds when they found him!.... Ruddy was a drug addict and a burglar!... Amanda was a model student, had good grades, had no history of violence and was never in trouble with the law and all of a sudden she turns into this sex crave perverted evil 20 years old maniac that offers her roommate to be raped and participates in her brutal killing?!... Statistics all over the world are very clear about that. Women are rarely involved in sex crimes and rarely kill in such brutal fashion... It is not that women don't kill but they use poison in the majority of the cases... Coul it be simply because she is a young modern woman in a chauvinistic, macho country?!... She is loud and obnoxious. That doesn't make her a cold hearted killer!... And what about Raffaele?!... Nobody talks much about him either... ONLY Amanda!... Was he to an innocent victim of a 20 years old young woman that never had any problem with the law and suddenly turned into that sex craved, depraved, evil maniac?!... And all that ONLY ONE WEEK after they met?!... Because she didn't cry in public that makes her a cold hearted, depraved, psychopath murderer?!... I hide my emotions and don't cry in public. Does that make me a psychopath?!... She kissed her boyfriend in front of the house while the police was investigating. Could it be that she simply was in shock and needed to be comforted?!... And I personally don’t see any smile in her face. I see a young confused woman… She didn't go to the funeral and "went shopping for underwear"... The house was off limits during the investigation therefore, SHE DIDN’T HAVE ANY CLOTHES to change INCLUDING UNDERWEAR!... The police interrogated her 53 hours in the course of 5 days and EACH time they FORGOT to record the interrogations?!... I will stop there because this is getting ridiculous!...
A young 20 years old woman that was never faced with such a brutal event. Why on earth would she have thought that somebody was brutally raped and murdered in her house?!... Would you, at 20?!... The few drops of blood in the sink she saw when she came into the bathroom but she share the house with four people, remember, the diluted blood on the bath matt, the same, she saw it only after showering... The unflushed toilet wasn't in the bathroom she used to shower if I remember correctly... Amanda was in trouble with the law for violence?!... That's the very first time I read about it and I have researched a lot about this case... And WHY only that knife they tested?!... What about all the others in the kitchen?!... And if she didn't suspect a violent crime why would she have knocked on Meredith's door and wake her up, IF she thought that Meredith was in the house!... And what about Ruddy?!... He fits more the profile. A known burglar, a drug addict, a drug dealer!...
E Gagnon, it is not that Knox should have known that a murder had happened. It is that she saw all those things but still didn't knock on Meredith's door to see if she was ok. There had been very high tensions between Amanda and Meredith. I really do recommend you read the book I mentioned before.
Liz K, the bathroom was very clean in spite of the stain on the bathmat and a few isolated drops of blood, some of which she did not see. She did not see the broken window until she came back with Raffaele. When she went into Laura and Filomena's bathroom and saw Rudy's turd she became concerned and got out of there quick. Was she to go to Meredith's room and knock and maybe the burglar was still there? Now the postal police come with Meredith's phones found dumped in Lana's yard a mile away and know about the broken window and still they did not want to kick Meredith's door open so Filomena's boyfriend did instead. So by your logic the postal police were part of the satanic orgy.
Imateapot51, Amanda Knox admitted to Diane Sawyer that she saw the bloodied footprint when she out of the shower. She admitted to seeing the unflushed toilet, blood in the sink and the open front door. You say some of the blood, "she did not see"; YOU WERE NOT AT THE CRIME SCENE. Amanda, after seeing all that, remembered to take a mop. She remembered a mop over Meredith?? And still did not phone Meredith. She went back and had breakfast and only mentioned it to Raffaele during breakfast, (according to her account). So, according to her own account, she wasn't concerned at all until Raffaele said she should be concerned. The postal police did not break down the door because they had not yet got permission from the landlord. You're being ridiculous with your 'satanic orgy'. You are trying to find any excuse for Knox and Sollecito; so in that your logic makes perfect sense.
I watched the documentary on netflix and I study psychology (but am no expert)... I think we will never know what truly happened, but I do think something is off with all the evidence presented and how everyone involved reacted. I do not know if amanda is innocent or guilty or if her bf at the time did it or not or if someone else did. But I do think someone does know what happened and they are either lying to fear being blamed or to protect someone. We will never know. I do think Amanda and her bf do know more than they lead on, something is just off.
Lulu Love It's a really good documentary but it's 10 hours long lol. It just shows how a county basically framed a guy that was suing them for 36 million dollars. Some say he really did commit the crime, others say he's innocent. Kinda like this whole Amanda Knox thing too.
A black man is in prison, and a girl is dead. She slandered her employer and bolted from Italy. She had an Italian boyfriend/lover but didn’t stick with him though the end; bolted the first chance she got. Whether she did it or not, her character is not to be trusted. She’ll throw you under the bus to save herself.
GerMart did you NOT READ what I wrote? I never said she’s guilty or murdered that girl. Just that she’s not to be trusted. If you were her boyfriend, and she accuses others for a serious crime... what makes you think that you’re not next? Oh yea, her employer(who was later acquitted) and the guy that was “guilty” were both black. I’m still ignorant? Takes one to know one, boss.
@@kq1777 You are right. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that points to her involvement. I wonder how many of her US supporters are aware that she stated that she had met with Rudy Guede on a number of occasions. Most people in the US only know the Knox PR version.
The fishiest thing is why did Knox blame Lumumba? Her calumnia conviction was upheld by each court. Shes legally innocent but her story is still hard to swallow anyway
People keep saying "she's a liar, she did it". yes, she lied. Yes, she was a young, selfish, overly confident girl 9 years ago. That does NOT make her a murderer. If that was 'evidence' of guilt, then arrest 90 percent of all 20 year old girls. Geez. Get over it, you fell for the media's portrayal of this case, you were duped. She is not guilty. Move on.
Amanda used to enjoy branding innocent people as guilty when she was high in Italy - Ask poor Lumumba - She'll get creepier and creepier especially when she needs money and attention - Yuk !
Oh yes, let's just forget that both the Italian Supreme Court and the European Court of Human Rights confirmed her rights were violated during the interrogation that results in Lumumba getting implicated. On what basis would you conclude Amanda "used to enjoy branding innocent people as guilty when she was high in Italy"? There is no indication that Amanda was anything other than traumatized and terrorized at the time Lumumba was implicated, and there is no evidence she was "high" during the interrogation. More ignorant commentary...
@@TheTruthCalls she herself suspected Lumbada. Said he was at their house although he wasn't. There wasn't any of Lumbadas DNA found so she blatantly lied! Her ,trauma of the interrogation' is the cheapest excuse I've ever heard
@@Vanessa-bb2qo Either you are entirely unaware of what transpired during the interrogation, or you do know but choose to ignore it. I don't know which it is, but I suspect attempting to educate you about it would be of little help. I'd also suggest you go read the results from both the Boninsegna court and the ECHR, both of which deal with the interrogation and the resultant calunnia charge, but again, I suspect you're not interested in understanding what took place.
BREAKING: Amanda Knox (@amandaknox ), who falsely accused Patrick Lumumba, a Congolese man, of the murder of British exchange student Meredith Kercher in Italy in 2007, has been re-convicted of slander. Lumumba had been kind to her, giving her a part-time job. However, she deliberately lied about him to exonerate herself and later blamed police pressure. The court has just reconvicted her. lol
Amanda hated the fact that Meredith hated her friends? I'm pretty sure she liked her friends, but maybe you know something no one else does. Aside from that, you probably aren't aware that there is substantial evidence that suggests they were friends who enjoyed their time together and that those who actually WERE THERE and knew them have testified they had a good, normal relationship. But you just go on deluding yourself if it makes you feel better.
Why the prosecutor did those claims aganist her? Because the real perpetrator emerged after a week. And prosecutor did not budge. Cause he wanted to keep up his credibility.
Sorry but you are wrong. Rudy Guede was connected to a very similar break in at a Perugia law office just 5 days before when caught in Milan with its stolen property. He was released with the stolen property which he returned with an apology. Cops stood in Filemena's room and did not remember 5 days? Bs. Mignini and Stefanoni did not allow the coroner to take Meredith's temperature making the time of death flexible and that is only needed to frame innocent people. Mignini knew Rudy did it by 9:30 the night of the murder. At 9:30 a resident just outside the gates received a "prank" phone call that there was a bomb in her bathroom. She called the police and they came in minutes. They got out of their cars with flashlights and headed away from the house and began searching and this was the exact spot Meredith's phones were found the next day. The odds of that are 1 in a billion. This was a frame up from hour one. Mignini did everything to protect Rudy Guede and his connection to the police or himself. This was not tunnel vision this was a frame up.
Because Magnini put his theory FIRST before the evidence. He then tried to bend and shape or manipulate or IGNORE the evidence to fit his theory. SADLY, this is common in wrongful convictions.
Yes, because she was never convicted. But she was fully and definitively acquitted of the crime. I know that sticks in the craw of a dedicated guilter such as yourself, but them are the facts.
@@ipsosmaati1971 You're correct, but only because Amanda was never convicted. Had she actually been convicted, and then acquitted, it would have been an exoneration.
Amanda Knox was as innocent as a new born baby . She was young and naïve in a strange country with a language barrier who did not understand fully the events after the murder . She may have acted strange but that was because she was in shock ,did not know how to react of her friend being murdered . The psycho prosecutor conjured up some insane theory about a drug fueled orgy gone wrong with Knox's extreme sexual apatite and was called the sex devil. The problem with all this bull was they already had the killer Rudy Geday Rudy acted alone as there was so much of his DNA everywhere while not a trace of Knox DNA found at the scene as if she wiped all her DNA clean , Rudy fled the country right after the crime and he called his best friend from Germany discussing the events all recorded and at no time did he ever mention Knox and her boyfriend as being involved in the murder. Rudy was not even thinking about the 2 lovers and was never put on the stand as a material witness involved a murder case . What court would not put Rudy on the stand when Knox and Solicito were being tried for the same crime. A person who was supposedly acting with the young couple for the murder. That is because the lovers were not involved by any means in the crime. The Italians love such drama and wanted to convict because of sensationalism No proof of any kind existed except for some dubious DNA on a bra clasp which was unfounded Nonetheless they were convicted then overturned convicted again and finally overturned altogether . Knox made a mistake implicating the bartender because she did not know what else to do , She was not given a chance to consult with legal counsel and was interviewed without sleep food and language problems they abused her so much during interrogation anyone would have admitted to killing JFK
She knows much more than she's letting on. A woman of bad charachter in my opinion. Why blame an innocent man.....no it wasn't under confession pressure because she continued to blame him for some time after. The whole thing stinks with too many contradictions. Remind me to keep away from Seattle and the US.
I disagree. Mignini all but admits he suspected Amanda right from the beginning. He believed the break-in was staged, he believed a woman covered the body and he believed Amanda was not behaving as she should have. No one should ever be accused of murder because of how they behave. People should be convicted based on evidence, facts, motive and opportunity, none of which existed in this case.
It's really so clear..... I'm not saying she is the murderer/killer......but if I got sentenced or punished for something I did not do...... I would yelling... Crying..... Screaming..... Let the whole world know, that I'm fucking innocent!! But the only thing she does..... Is putting up a sad face...... At such huge event...... I say :... She knows more, but will not tell. And I'm really trying to be neutral..... Hmmmm, What a strange girl and what a strange behavior......
What a bizarre comment. How was she supposed to do that when she was locked up for four years? And ever since she got released she's been telling the world of her innocence - so much so that she's criticized for it - yet you somehow think she hasn't been doing this. Go figure...
She is just Meredith roommate not her significant others or family members. Would you display significant grief when someone you barely knew for a few weeks died? That would be weird.
There are a lot of cases when the real murderer shows empathy and cries a lot over the dead person. It doesn't show or prove anything. Besides everyone grieves in their own way
Or maybe look towards other people that might have killed your friend? Seems like you genuinely don’t care that your friend and roommate died. That’s what makes you seem guilty.
Exactly. Rudy Guede was convicted of ‘murder in concert with others’. And the court which ACQUITTED Amanda concluded that there were multiple attackers. Why is Amanda not trying to find those other attackers?
she had SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. A body language expert has already proven this. Girl just shut up and move on. YOU'RE lucky. Don't push your luck trying to "spread the word" you know what happened.
So after 4 years, she becomes exonerated? What about all the time they took away from her life incarcerating her for 4 whole years? She'll never get those 4 years back. Did she at least file a lawsuit for wrongful conviction and win?
I'm late but I feel like this is everyones fault: The prosecutor was obsessed The investigation was flawed And A knox is covering up the whole truth Alarm bells are going off And poor Meredith 😔 RIP
Agreed. Usually when there is a big mess like this , its not just one person who made the mistake..its multiple parties all made mistakes and it all coming together yo create a giant headache and confusion for everyone involved.
the evidence did not prove her innocence. It was not sufficient to prove her culpability beyond reasonable doubt and her lawyers were clever to question it. I do not believe that she was hit by the police and she inculpated someone completely innocent. Sorry but she has something to do with it, some degree of participation.
There wasn't a shred of evidence tying Amanda or Raffaele to the crime while there was copious evidence tying Rudy Guede to it. There is no doubt he was in the cottage, no doubt he sexually assaulted Meredith. His DNA was in her, on her bra, on her sweater and on her purse. His palm print, made in Meredith's blood, was found in the room. His shoe prints, made in Meredith's blood, in the room and tracked down the hall. He was implicated in several B&E's prior to the murder, and he was seen twice on CCTV outside the cottage (none of the CCTV cameras between Raffaele's apartment and the cottage ever caught a glimpse of either Amanda or Raffaele, but it did capture Guede twice and Meredith as she arrives home). It absolutely blows my mind how people can be duped by the media and become incapable of seeing the obvious. You don't squeeze four people into a tiny bedroom, commit a violent, bloody murder and have two people leave the room without leaving a forensic trace of themselves while the third person leaves all sorts of evidence.
As a Brit and someone who is from Leeds the uni Meridith attended I was taken in by the msm and was convinced that Amanda is guilty but after watching 48hrs I am now certain this girl is innocent! This Italian prosecutor is nuts! He had a scenario in his head about what happened and he was going to bend the evidence to fit it!
Exoneree? LOL She knows what happened. She's only half psychopath, so it still haunts her on some level. What was your PCL--R score, dear? 18? 22? Close enough.
Probably less than 5 if you grade her according to what's established with her background and not what you speculate she did during a crime she was acquitted of participating in.
Question? I just watched the doc on Netflix, why would she take a shower if she saw that her front door of her house was open. wouldn't you want to call the police for that being a possible burglary. also when she steps out on the bath mat she saw a splotch of blood, that looks very much like a foot print.
Sophistikatieb when you come from a protects world where nothing bad really happens, i. e. Suburbs. , it's not in your bubble of reality. People leave doors unlocked, it happens. And if you are female you can relate to this: she thought the blood in the bathroom was period blood.
Sophistikatieb when young people travel a long way maybe they have not traveled much . That can be incredibly dreamy they lose their critical faculties . They are just blown away by it all . Amanda's behave your doesn't surprise me at all . I know this by experience of meeting other Europeans here in London . It takes then three months before they realise their new boyfriend is a massive heroin addict .
i agree. Something is not right but sadly we will never know who did it as there wasnt enough evidence or dna to show for definite who did this. I would love to see all 3 of them sit on front of a lie detector though and hear the results.
Duggy well Rudy guede s DNA is all over Meredith and inside her and Amanda's is very minimal Guede was found guilty of this murder he is a dope dealer and has previous for burglary The only person suggesting more people were involved is the prosecutor giuliano migninni Check him out in you tube then it will all make sense
I wish I could believe her, she is from the same small Seattle suburb as me and I want to think that we don't have murderers there. I just don't though, nothing adds up.
fozzerbluenose So you won't answer? My daughter has a masters in the mental health field and she got me to start following this case after the first trial, she said she was innocent so I've done a lot of studying this case, the Italian laws, the extradition laws, the DNA evidence, ect...So again, what is your educational level to diagnose someone with a mental disorder?
Nancy Parker good day to Nancy Parker, I can read that you are asking the person "what is there educational level" to be assessing the case, I could be wrong but as you also state that your daughter has a masters in mental health I guess your talking about university educated level, in that case I would like to say that I myself have never been to university or college to study psychology and the Science of the human brain ect ect. But what I have learnt in my 77 years of being on this earth is mankind in general is one of the most complex issues to try and break down and investigate and understand, yes there has been many a clever individual who has come along over the years and pioneered new understandings into the complex minds of severely ill mental patients but what we know still only scraps a small percentage of what there is to know, the human mind/brain is just as complex as trying to find out what is beyond the universe, so going back to your daughters masters at university.....I could carry on but I will leave the rest to you..I'm confident you might figure it out. Thanks for reading ..and I apologise for my bad grammar, I suffer from dyslexia and mental illness.
The case involved a game that got out of control. Pretty obvious. Knox enlists Sollecito and Guede's help to scare Kercher regarding the money and other disagreements. That's why they take the knives. Things get out of control and Kercher screams so someone stabs her in the throat to shut her up. Probably didn't have the intention of killing her. Guede leaves quickly and Knox and Sollecito are left stunned to clean up the mess. They're stoned so don't do a very good job. They clean their evidence in the room leaving RG's but leave evidence in the hallway and bath. Then they clumsily stage the break in and choose the wrong window and room. Also, they offer other contradictory evidence like the false alibis and fingering PL. They were at the very least complicit in MK's murder.
However, they probably knew they were doing something criminal and things could go wrong because they turned off their cell phones. And, people keep saying they were too amateurish to clean the room and leave no evidence. Thinking like criminals when they turn off their cell phones.
Actually the window turned out to be a perfect choice, because Guede has a history of cat burglary break-ins at difficult to climb locations, including bashing a second story window with a rock. So maybe Amanda was tagging along with Guede during his crime spree and that's how she learned his MO. Or maybe your theory is just crap and something you made up because you can't get over your bad hunch based on an unrecorded interrogation and little else.
Normally people who are falsely accused state over and over that they are INNOCENT with conviction and frustration. Knox doesn't do that, does she? She always wants to focus on how the evidence was collected poorly (remember, OJ's lawyers agued the same thing about the DNA collection). She's always taking angles instead of flat out asserting her innocence. And whenever she attempts to say straight up that she's not guilty of murder, her body starts spazzing out, her voice lilts/crumbles and she barely can get out her lie. Every time she gulps pre/post lie, I laugh now. It's obvious to notice when she's lying, her voice and words betray her every time she attempts to appear convincing. Knox is gonna be forever an emotional wreck for what she's trying to hide and live with. Don't pity the guilty, find them in public and shame them.
The person above keeps posting debunked evidence and gets all his information from hater websites maintained by anonymous trolls. If you want to learn about the case read the Italian supreme ruling that exonerated Amanda and Raffaele. Google Bruno Maresca.
BBC is a "hater" website? Nice. Everything I share is cited in the link. Deal w it. Is this the "hater" website; themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Myths_debunked You can always scroll down to the notes in order to see if anything was manufactured info. So for the 1000th time, nice try ya filthy liar. If you "wanna learn about the case" do yourself a favor don't let PR lies mislead you to misinformation. Don't let them fool you, Knox will spend the rest of her life running from what she did. Don't enable a lying, closet racist/wannabe elitist who tried setting up an innocent man for murder so she wouldn't be seen as a suspect. Ya know what's hilarious, her and Raffy (the guy she coached through their attempts to be seen as innocent) no longer talky. It's like they can't stand each other's presence since it reminds them of what they did. Normally innocent people that go through a trauma are forged together from the experience. Not these two. They both probably feel sick from seeing each other. It's great!
The BBC video plays for 59 minutes making Amanda seem as guilty as possible and then they spend a minute on they are exonerated in full. Yes the bbc video was full of lies. And you post a link to the website that is a hater site and I answered the questions on another thread a month ago. And you ignored them and went away. Maybe answer what the police were doing in Lana's garden and I will waist 10 minutes again on your disproved bs you can not even think of on your own.
Aaaaannnnnd you're back. You offered an opinion on BBC's doc without sharing anything real to refute it. BBC's research and journalism > "person" hiding behind multiple anonymous youtube accounts. Alan Dershowitz's opinion on the evidence against herplip > Your constant dismissal of any evidence against her. You only lie and spread misinfo here "teapot". You're going off Marriot's narrative, repeating the exact same lies her and her family conjured to make her innocence seem plausible to the public. I cannot be on this page everyday like you have for so many years now and I have no urge to play you game of lies so most everything you say isn't even worth a direct rebuttal. You wanna lead people into a "garden' and get them to forget about the faked robbery and cleanup. It's not working. Also, you attack all of my comments out of pride. You're not "wasting time" like you claim, you're pushing a boulder up a hill everyday, you have no choice. That makes me wonder who you are cuz I think I snagged what I was looking for. My writing shows I can, in fact, "think on my own". Good insult, though. Only makes me think how Knox lacks wit yet thinks her prose is worth sharing for money. Know what I'm sayin, nom de plume shyte writer teapot ;)
You could try reading the meaningless tea leaves that is body language, or you could read the evidence at the crime scene, burglar Rudy Guede's DNA from the rapekit, his fresh dripping bloody prints all over the scene, his history of similar break-ins and carrying a knife while committing crimes. That vs some random student stuttering on camera. Gee I wonder who did it.
Why do you say that Rudy was the actual killer? He confessed to being at the cottage when Meredith was murdered. The court ruled that Amanda was at the cottage when Meredith was murdered. Amanda told at least 23 lies from her first encounter with the police and throughout the whole trial. Amanda is as guilty as sin. She had motive to kill Meredith, Rudy did not.
Amanda Knox's case illustrates why you should never speak to the police but allow a case to go to trial. On seeing the evidence against her it is clear that she is innocent and unfortunately her 'cooperating' with the police is what made things worse for her.
Exactly. That is the lesson everyone should take from this. You think the police are there to help, and usually they are, but never assume they wont get you in their sights and develop tunnel vision. If Amanda had simply said she wouldn't speak with the police until she had a lawyer present none of this would have happened. People fear it might make you look guilty, but better to lawyer up and 'look' guilty than not lawyer up and 'become' guilty.
It's also normal when people are getting their point across....Whatever you do, don't give up your day job cause you suck at micro expressions/body language.
Nancy Parker What about when questioned about returning to the apartment and finding bloodstains, Knox said 'I didn't think anyone had been murdered' and laughed out loud. Yet Meredith was supposed to have been her close friend who was very dear to her. Her problem is that she now has had to adopt a completely fake persona to convince the public of her innocence. This must be quite a strain for her. So there are times when the mask slips.
“Why would you confess to something you didn’t do?” I think I can answer that. Has this ever happened to you: an adult accuses you of doing something you didn’t do. Your parents say, “So-and-so said you did (fill in the blank). You said you didn’t. Your parents say, “ Are you calling So-and-So a liar?” You admit to doing whatever it was because you figure calling an authority figure a liar will cause you to get in more trouble.
"Other than the murder of your room-mate how was your exchange student experience?" She got lucky and is in Seattle still looking innocent. Who smiles during a friends murder?
@@VirginiaVirginie She is innocent. She is just as innocent as you are and I am and should we be ashamed? For what? Even if? It is not 2007. She is innocent. So is Raffaele.
@@Canlastmt2410 That must be why the police (mignini) destroyed Amanda and Meredith's computers, just to make sure they did not have any photos smiling together.
@@imateapot51 that's my point. But people want her to be ashamed, sad, and grieving for the rest of her life. If she's innocent, she deserves to be left alone. We only have one life! They should let her live already.
even if she is a criminal, isnt it nice to help the many who are falsely accused of crimes? it happens all the time in america sadly, like 1 out of 9 or 10 people sentenced to the death penalty are innocent. its sad
of course i do not support murder at all, but i mean its not like she got out of jail and with all her publicity went after fame like danielle bregoli or something...at least she is working for people in similar situations ya know?
Minimalist Vlogger She is a fraud. She was hired to represent falsely accused people when she herself falsely accused an innocent man. She is a felon for life for this crime. She continues to lie, saying she is an exoneree when the fact is, she was acquitted. She also says she was declared innocent, when the fact is the Italian courts with 2 trials & 2 appeals NEVER said she was innocent. I’m not sure why people treat her like a celebrity? No other country would do this. Rudy has been shunned in Italy since the day of his release. Furthermore, people believe she cares for them. Absolutely not. She is not capable of caring for anyone except herself. One day the truth will come out.
My mind is blown. I just can't believe why anyone who is of sound mind and morals doesn't think that Rudy Guede 100% did this? I am so sorry Amanda had to go through that horrific experience.
Oopsie Daisy 84 at the time she had changed her story on multiple occasions (including some ridiculous things like she can't remember), this info was being published in real time all over the world, people naturally questioned her credibility
wireside Widebrow Cuz she takes a lot of drugs and drink alcohol. But there is no evidence she committed murder aside from suspiciousness generated from her odd behavior,....which can easily be driven by drugs.
Except that the Italian Supreme Court in their ruling said she was in the cottage and probably washed the victim's blood from her hands but couldn't prove she participated. Talk about convoluted.
I read her book..i believe she did it and thought the black dude being convicted of it would make the world just move on and not dig deeper which is what i believe has happened with the overturning of her initial conviction..🤔That girl is honestly off her rocker
Damn, when you listen to her speak, she's so very thoughtful and insightful and smart. I feel so horrible for people who get completely railroaded by corrupt liars like she did. I hope she can live a happy and fulfilling life after the hell she went through for no reason other than the wild sex fantasies spun by a dirty pig foreign cop and scumbag tabloid writers.
I still feel so bad for Meridith Kercher she seems to be forgotten in all this. Her poor family. RIP Meridith
This story is about someone falsely prosecuted and convicted for a crime she did not commit, as found in a Supreme Court. This is about exoneration and helping others wrongfully convicted. This story is not about someone sadly horrifically murdered.
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Sarah Buckingham This case is not about misogyny, or Amanda being a whore, or her “supposedly” being in love or her smoking pot.
The case is about a mountain of incriminating evidence that points to 3 people at the cottage, 3 guilty, 2 of them murderers, a massive million $ PR campaign by the Knoxes & a group called the Friends of Amanda that controlled the American media & social media. All of this to keep a lying murderer, Amanda Knox out of jail. Italians believe Raffaele & Amanda are guilty b/c they read the court case coverage in the newspapers daily. Raffaele is shunned. Americans believe the PR lies that Amanda is not guilty. She is a celebrity only in US.
About Amanda Knox' lies. A first important point is that Amanda Knox did not just "lie during an interrogation". She did indeed spin a story falsely incriminating Patrick Lumumba, but she didn't do that during an interrogation: her false accusation was a protracted and repeated behaviour. It went on long after the interrogation. Indeed Knox went on spinning false stories - not just accusing Lumumba but also threatening Sollecito - that this is protracted behaviour is a first important point to bear in mind, yet still not the main point. - By the way I also note that her written memoriales are not the work of a person who is weak and naive to the point of having lost mental control, no longer able to concoct and organize a tortuous manipulation. Her memoriale is a sophisticated and highly controlled text, it is the manifest attempt by a person still in full rational control; anyway, any theory of Amanda being weak and naive and psychologically coerced should be backed with evidence. It should be proven, you cannot just postulate or guess that a person lies because is psychologically weak, with no evidence. And yet as I said this is still not the main point.
A rather more significant point is Knox's actual position in the trial. her actual claims. The fact that Knox, at the preliminary hearing and trial, did NOT claim that she had lied, under pressure. That was not her position at the trial at all. On the contrary, she claimed that she had not lied ad all, and told that she suffers of a false memory syndrome. Her defence called a psychiatist from a Rome university to testify to support her claim. Your might have played the card about psychological weakness and coercion if Knox had brought a story of psychological coercion to the trial. She did not. she brought up a story of a false memory syndrome.
So, the lack of consistency in her own explanations about her behaviour is a point more important than what she said during an interrogation. This is not, however, the only contradiction from Knox in her own defense.
But a further and more relavant fact is that Amanda Knox did not lie only when falsely accusing Lumumba. She simply told a huge load of lies, above all before the interrogation. Her whole "story" about having showers in bloody bathroom and carrying mops through the town is a mass of lies. There is no piece of it consistent with any other or with any piece of reality.
And then she also lied subsequently: after the trial, in her public declarations, and in her book. She's a systematic liar.
One further element to note, is that we are not talking about just one liar; wre are talking about two. Not just Amanda Knox, but also Sollecito always lied. And it is now and an established judicial truth that "all his versions are lies".
Sollecito told lies in his changing versions during interrogations, he told proven lies in his book (a Judge forced him and Gumbel to admit that his book was fictional), and he tells lies today.
Before any other consideration, any person would ask themselves why two "innocent" people should tell lie all the time - that's not exactly what innocent people do.
I won't get into further detalis anout all the dimensions and the steps of Knox lying about accusing Lumumba and about the rest (including her Dec. 17th interrogation, etc.) because it would get too long.
About Rudy Guede: he did not act alone. Note: this is, by the way, a fact established definitively by the last verdict.
But it is just a proven fact - it is evidence whoever wants to look into it - that this murder was phisically committed by more than one person. It is a fact that it would be impossible for a single perpetrator to commit this crime. Forget about Introna's theory, which is unrealistic and inconsistent with findings and was rightly dismissed by the judge.
Meredith Kercher was killed by multiple perpetrators. While Knox is officially proven to have been certainly present at the murder.
Knox, actually, did indeed take part physically to the killing action - she was not just an observer - but still, bear in mind that even a "passive" observer would bear responsability, because Meredith Kercher did not die on the spot. She died of blood loss after an agony of ten minutes or more. Not just the physical perpetrators, but even a hypothetical passive observer who happened not to call for help would be a person committing a serious life-threatening or deadly offense,
I was going to say the same thing...
I was wrongfully charged with 8 felonies and 3 misdemeanors and I can tell you it's terrifying looking down that barrel. It doesn't end after your found not guilty. It will haunt you the rest of your life. The justice system is so wrong even when they say in court we find you not guilty as if there was guilt in the first place. It is said incent until proven guilty but instead they say we find the defendant not guilty instead of we find the defendant inocent.
@Bran Man24 - I’m sorry, not only for what happened to you, but also for most people choosing not to believe stories like yours exist. May I ask, how are you?
I’m sorry that happened to you. Did you sue?
@TheWchurchill4pm Hello, thanks for checking in with me. I left an update here in the comments
this case was messed up in so many ways. I listened to the italian investigator and his work was just based on his opinions and assumptions. Not hard evidence. She may well have done it and may be a psychopath. But saying things like he noticed the body was covered and only a woman would think to do that is dumb. Anyone is capable of anything.
I agree completely. It seems no one involved in this case shows any sign of intelligence. Not the journalist, not the investigator, not the idiot who took a shit in someone else's home. This whole thing is fucked up! They should've done the trial in England not Italy.
The people who ran the investigation should he under investigation themselves. The second time she was found guilty was due to behaviour and relationships if i remember hearing rightly. Now thats just a shambles. Also the allegations that the girl was killed in a sadistic sex game and he even got people to act out how he apparently knew it played out?
She did it, she took a shower after before she called the police, she took a shower.
No bc it was still fresh, but there was a bloody bare footprint, and someone had taken a shower. They shouldve sized the print. The footprints matched her and solecito, They found the murder weapon in solecitos house and his dna on the bra clasp.
***** I doubt it, I think they got it right the first time, there were two bloody footprints that matched Amanda and her bf, and the murder weapon was found at her bfs house. A bare footprint is just as good as a fingerprint in my eyes.
so why did she accuse an innocent black man and let him stay in jail for 4 weeks?
Perhaps you should review her account of how the interrogation went down. Lumumba was never mentioned until after the police found the SMS exchange between he and Amanda. The police interpreted it to mean they were meeting the night of the murder, and the coerced her to implicate him. When she wouldn't tell them what they wanted to her, policewoman Donnino, who was acting as an interpreter, suggested to her she was suffering from traumatic amnesia, going so far as to tell her of her own experience with such a thing. She then asked Amanda to imagine what might have happened.
As for "let him stay in jail for 4 weeks", you do realize she had no control over any of it, right? She did retract her statement the following day, but she could never say Lumumba had nothing to do with it. All she could say was she wasn't there and had no idea who committed the crime. It was the police, who had absolutely nothing on Lumumba, who kept him locked up. Even after multiple people came forward and said they saw him at his pub the police refused to let him go.
The real question is why did the police hold him for that long without a shred of evidence against him, and why did they ignore the witnesses who put Lumumba at his pub?
She's a lying cold blooded murderer.
She talks about how bad it is to be wrongfully convicted but didn't she lie and try to blame that bar manager for the murder?
+heav ybullet I probably won't watch it!
What happened? I haven't watched the documentary yet either.
I like to come visit videos on her ever once in awhile. There was never
one piece of evidence to show her being guilty of anything but being a
weird person who doesn't know how to act when bad things happen. I would
go as far as saying she is a functional narcissist or possibly even
psychopath, but that does not make you guilty of anything. There was
evidence left and found of one person who came in probably to steal, but
then killed her. Tons of his DNA. Everything that they had to try and
put the crazy story in was just the crazy thoughts of the Italian guy
and he tried to make up DNA evidence, but you believe this you are
really crazy. Everyone now knows this was bullshit and most likely
contaminated or even tried to be planted. It is scary to know how many
would convict someone of murder or worse death simply because someone is
different than the norm. It is really sad actually. Evidence, facts,
and logical thinking. THese are common sense things. YOu don't look at a
person and say well she is acting funny. She kissed her bf, she must
have had a satanical ritual and made them kill that girl. WTF? lol This
was the craziest shit I have ever heard of. The lawyer for the actual
person guilty was mad his guy got convicted as was dumb enough to show
how stupid he was on camera. When asked if he thought his guy had a fair
trial he said look who is out and who is in. He then said that in his
country there was law and order while people were still in caves in the
US. This is crazy funny because everyone from the US that is there now,
there ancestors came from Europe. What he said made no sense at all. As
if the ancestors of the current people where the Indians. lol WTF. Our
family most likely left Europe because of hardship and possbily terribly
flawed justice systems like the Italian one.
John Tate I'm not saying she's guilty of murder, I believe the evidence. I don't personally think she did it. I sometimes wonder if she knew more then she lets on but I definitely believe she didn't do it! I also believe the media hype everything up and painted her to be crazy. I do however get the feeling (and this is only a feeling) she never cared her house mate was murdered.
+C Bird There's no reason to think she never cared her housemate was murdered. She was almost immediately put in a position where she was fighting for her own life and that changes everything. Debra Milke was convicted of killing her 4 or old son without one shred of evidence, she spent 24 yrs in prison, 22 of that on death row, when she was finally exonerated she realized she had never been able to grieve the loss of her son because she was put in the position she was, so it may seem Knox didn't care but it could have been the position she was in.
She came home and had a shower and missed the bloody floormat? How?
cfcreative1
How often do you honk when you walk into your home:" hummm I think a murder may have happened I better look around." What you act like when something like this happens... no one knows. You can speculate but shock is different for everyone. I don't know if she is or isn't guilty, but the evidence isn't there. She is one smart chick to have Rudy'sDNA AND FINGERPRINTS but not to leave hers or Rafaels.
Plenty of people have admitted guilt when innocent, watch making a murderer if you don't believe that!
She found the door unlocked when she got home, feces in the toilet, a window broken and blood scattered around the bathroom and she didn't notice it? Unfortunately because the investigation was bungled we won't know the truth unless someone comes forward with evidence or a confession.
cfcreative1 she didn't notice the doormat until after she had showered.
cfcreative1 there wasn't blood scattered around the bathroom. It was a couple of small drops
cfcreative1 If you were a woman, you would have had your period or you would shave and your bathroom floormat would have been OFTEN looking like a murder scene ;)
I am never going to Italy again now that I know how unprofessional their police and prosecutors are. I would be scared to go to prison for nothing during my holiday. Lol
It's worse than you think....
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don’t come. You will not be missed
I agree and I’m Italian. You can’t even guarantee you’re mail won’t be tampered with or you can get something done in a government office without slipping someone a bribe.
At 7.16: "I will never go willingly back to the place where I........" .....stabbed a poor girl to death? I can understand you Amanda, yes I do!
muni it's like she almost said she did it
muni evidence? Rudy’s Dna was all over Meredith case closed Amanda Knox is innocent and beautiful
@@uchiha5007 You are delusional!
The worst part is how the actual killer, Rudy Guede, got a reduced sentence.
He isn't the actual killer. According to his trial he was an accomplice. How can he be his own accomplice? That's right, the murderers got away with it.
Nathan Baker : if you confess your
They were declared accomplices in a trial they weren't allowed to defend themselves in, that's a total violation of their civil rights and just one of the things being reviewed by ECHR now. There was never any evidence they participated in that murder in any way so if there were accomplices it wasn't Knox and Sollecito but in reality the only forensic evidence in the murder room was the victim and Guede.
I've heard speculation that Guede might have been a police informant. Is there any proof of that?
+Nathan Baker I've heard that many times which is why they kept letting him go
she should be locked up
She's GUILTY!
She’s not. Its a good story that she is but the evidence and motive are just not there
She reminds me of Ed Norton in Primal Fear. Just saying.
Scrolled through the comments and not a single one about Meredith. This case shouldn't be about Amanda Knox it should be about Meredith
It isn't about the murder as much as it is about wrongful conviction and the feeding frenzy of the press. Have you seen the documentary? The Kerchers were handled with the utmost of respect and just so you know, they were asked to be a part of this documentary and they declined.
***** That website you listed is a notorious hate Knox site and little there is the truth, they may list the court documents but they aren't going to tell you they have been annulled and not worth the paper it's written on. Are you under the assumption that multipole judges can't make a wrong decision? First of all it wasn't 30 judges that found Knox guilty since the 2nd set and 4th set acquitted her but during the Monster of Florence case at least 4 innocent people were convicted by many judges so it happens and it did in this case.
The media sensationalized the case so much that it became more about convicting Amanda (with wildly insufficient evidence) and less about getting justice for Meredith.
Grace Murphy do you know what meredith's family thinks about it? Or who they think did it?
Grace Murphy exactly right my only concern is for Meredith and her family. Not Amanda as I believe she is guilty just like everyone else. Only a few think she did not do it and they are wrong.
Damn ! She gave a lot of interviews all these years . So weird to speak about your "trauma" all the time. Does she have a pinch of restraint about Meredith family ?
Only a sociopath would come back years later and continue this conversation for the sake of their image and not the victims.
You are american???
Divinity Dance yeah.. cuz after having millions of people bully you online for years , the world watching judging commenting without asking for any of it and btw here you are watching! She wants to speak cresting her own narrative and there was NO evidence! Ugh..the narcissist is you!
Divinity Dance spot on
If I as wrongfully convicted of something, I would be throwing it out to everyone for the rest of my life that it was wrongfully........and if she was wrongfully convicted, she is infact a victim as well, just a different kind of victim. The verdict on this women, who the hell knows, I wouldn't close the book on anything but they have to go by evidence.
Divinity, she spent 4 years in prison being INNOCENT.
According to an interview with The Observer (via The Guardian) following that acquittal, Lumumba believes Knox was found not guilty because of status and appearances. “Amanda is free because she is American, but Americans are human like everybody," Lumumba said. As of last year, the 43-year-old Lumumba was living in Krakow, Poland with his wife. He has alleged that Knox's accusation and his involvement in this case lost him his business and made it impossible to find another job in Perugia. “What Amanda did I don’t know, but I think she knows why Meredith died," Lumumba told The Guardian.
What Lumumba says to the press and what he said under oath in court are two entirely different things.
It wasn't Knox who kept his business closed for 3 months after he was released from his two week custody by the police. That was the prosecutor. Knox clearly told the police in writing on Nov. 3, the day after her arrest, that she could not know who killed Meredith as she had never gone back to the cottage on Nov. 1. The police chose to keep him in jail for two weeks with NO evidence whatsoever.
seriously I dont believe , she is a good actress I feel like this is a show ,
RIP meredith
Amen!
It appears from all I have watched on Merediths Kurhcers murder, never once does Amanda Knox show any sorrow at the horrendous murder of her housemate, a lot of things do not add up. Only 4 people know the real truth and one cant speak for themselves. RIP Meredith 😢
Even if she didn't stick the knife in, she knows what went down, but is keeping her mouth shut. Why blame someone else for the crime like she did? I don't believe her. Everything she says is forced and unnatural.
You don't have to believe her, she's still innocent. Don't you even wonder why the police broke the law and didn't record the interrogation? Doesn't it seem like they may have been trying to hide something?
Your right bro ... something seems off on this bitch
Harr Risasss the police broke the law by interrogating her for days without break. There's a reason it's not done like that in the states because it causes false statements. Statements caused under duress normally get thrown out.
sarah j. Well this is just plain wrong. Instincts can be wrong. Amanda wasn't in the room and someone else (Rudy) was. Why ignore overwhelming evidence such as DNA inside the victim and bloody hand prints over instincts?
Rudy Gudea (sp?) is the murderer not Rafael or Amanda.
Harr Risasss doesn't change the fact that the confession was coerced. Also I believe she was convicted of saying they beat her while she was being interrogated.
The only thing Amanda was truly guilty of was being an American citizen on foreign soil. No evidence what so ever led to her acquittal.
For God sakes they found a mans semen inside Meredith and his palm prints everywhere! How did Amanda clean everything that was her and Rafaels but leave Rudy's?
This case wouldn't of worked in America, Canada, UK or Australia because they know you can't be convicted because the prosecution "has a feeling" of guilty.
In the American justice system we have so many examples of this. Barry Beach for one. He lost nearly 40 years of his life based on a coerced confession. Hes FINALLY free, but you dont get those years back.
And Rubin Carter. He could've been like Muhammad Ali. But alas he was imprisoned for a crime he didn't commit.
lambchopxoxo she is a murderer and you know it she will get nudged when she dies and so will you for lying saying she is innocent when everyone knows she is a murderer. All you idiots who think she did not do it, I bet you have never spared a thought once about poor Meredith and her family have you?
The Knox PR campaign hitched a ride on the popular bandwagon of “coerced confessions by police”. This has been proven completely false by the Italian Supreme Court and just recently by the ECHR. The sad part is, there are actually some in prison who were coerced. That number is very low and is mainly lower intelligence people who are intimidated. It is also more likely to be someone of a racial minority.
She never confessed, but accused innocent man. That is why she served 3 years in prison.
The sad part about Knox's story is how she has obtained ill gotten fame off a murder of a young woman. I swear Americans glorify the wrong things. This story should be about Meredith, and now her legacy will be entangled in what seems like a very out of touch Knox.
Knox didn't obtain anything, she didn't do anything. She simply existed while a story unfolded around her, a story about an incompetent police department that failed to figure out a raped and murdered female student was killed by their own local knife carrying burglar while they hastily jumped to wrong conclusions about her roommate.
Clearly you didn't''t read my comment very well. The point of my comment had nothing to do with Knox. AGAIN, a young woman died was the overall point. So I say again, Americans glorify the wrong things.
Knox is the only reason you or anyone else knows the name Meredith Kercher, regardless of what country you are from. If the Italians had caught her killer swiftly (Rudy Guede) the case would be long forgotten.
You just proved my point! The case was sensationalized because it became the poor American girl killed the British girl - Give me a break! And for the record I was living in England, (and I am American) - So I was aware of the murder way before Knox was suspected as a killer. When a Brit abroad dies overseas it always makes the news. So miss me with BS, and do ever question me on my knowledge!
You're welcome to your opinion. HOWEVER, I highly disagree, and a back and forth debate on it is not going to make me change it. Now if you don't mind, I don't get paid debate on TH-cam (as much I'd like to be). Have a good one -- Ciao!
One person left seamen inside the victim, left blood and fingerprints. Clearly not the guilty party.
Two people with absolutely no evidence or motives are clearly the guilty party.
One with the evidence got 16 years. The two with none got 25 and 26 years. How does that make sense?!?
What is the seaman's name?
Philip Bainbridge 😂😂😂😂😂
GerMart Amanda could have gotten less than her 26 yrs. had she told the truth & plead guilty. She will forever be known as the murderer who escaped justice.
@GerMart We turn these documents everywhere. Here are the sentences and all the material available on this horrendous murder
themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Main_Page truejustice.org/ee/
Philip Bainbridge-Bryan! I wonder how the sea men fit inside her🤔
If someone is innocent and accused, they feel vulnerable to prove their innocence, but if someone is guilty, they feel desperate to prove their innocence. It happened to Knox; she is desperate! If she is innocent, why does she bother with what the world is thinking?
What a stupid statement.
Well there's something that makes me not believing A Knox
The evidence speaks for itself and it all points to Rudy Guede, the burglar who broke in, made himself at home as he did in previous strange break ins, and was interrupted by Meredith who could identify him, and sexually assaulted and killed her. Very simple case until Mignini distracted away from Rudy since he probably sent him there to look at Filomena's laptop to begin with.
Guilty beyond and doubt.
All the double blood/DNA Knox/Kercher evidence and the admission statement of Knox admitting freely and voluntarily without undue influence that she was present in the murder house at the time of the commission of the murder of Meredith Kercher and that her admission statement is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, makes you thing beyond a reasonable doubt that Knox is guilty. There are also 2 murder knives/weapons with Knox blood/DNA on them to corroborate her presence in the murder room at the time of commission of the murder of Meredith Kercher. Her finding of not guilty was motivated by American politics.
People want to believe she did it because it makes for a good story. If you really look into it, though, there's no evidence that she had any involvement at all. It was the press getting over excited with salacious stories to sell papers, and an ineffective police force who made mistakes and crumbled under pressure. "There's just something that makes me not believe her" is a harmful, ignorant way of thinking and is the cause of all this.
So the black guy's the only person who goes to jail?......seems legit.
his DNA was all over the crime scene and the dead girl's body, its not racism, he's just a murderer.
um, he did do something. just google it you idiot.
What a racist comment! The person who murdered the woman went to jail. Regardless of race or nationality.
Harr Risasss I have absolutely no idea what that means.
Harr Risasss Race had nothing to do with this trial.
Crazy the Italian police had no idea. That's messed up. Look at the three boys from Arkansas. They was wrongfully accused and had them out of prison after 25 years in prison. Horrible!! Amanda didn't do anything that's sad thank god she came back home.
According to an interview with The Observer (via The Guardian) following that acquittal, Lumumba believes Knox was found not guilty because of status and appearances. “Amanda is free because she is American, but Americans are human like everybody," Lumumba said. As of last year, the 43-year-old Lumumba was living in Krakow, Poland with his wife. He has alleged that Knox's accusation and his involvement in this case lost him his business and made it impossible to find another job in Perugia. “What Amanda did I don’t know, but I think she knows why Meredith died," Lumumba told The Guardian.
She always “cries” without tears and nodes yes when saying no
Cold, callous and without emotion. Knox!
I can't stand that chilly stare in her eyes
There are plenty of videos where she does cry and show emotion
Has anyone seen a video of Amanda Knox or Raffaele Sollecito showing even a smidgen of anguish for Meredith Kercher? If there is could someone post a link to it?
+Paul A Why should they? Have you?
If she did people would say she is faking it or crying cause she is guilty
@@sirpopatree7560 it’s no about seeing her cry. But her showing some type of remorse for an innocent girls brutal death.
@@PaolaGonzalez-th5ws bro are you out of your fucking mind?
Why would she feel remorseful if she didn’t do it??
She has been schooled by lawyers to put up a story. However portraits she has knowledge of the murder
It amazes me how so people still think she's guilty. At first I did too, but after reading five books on the case now think she's innocent. Her Italian roommates immediately lawyered up. Meredith's English friends immediately flew home. Rudy Guede fled to Germany. But Amanda did nothing even when her mother told her to leave Italy. That was her mistake.
Koscina51, what 5 books have you read?
Maybe it was the evidence..
She was never exonerated! Get it straight. And she served 3 years in prison for blaming her murder on an innocent man.
Does this make you feel better, ipsos? Yes, she was never exonerated because she was never convicted in the first place. You leave that part out. She WAS, however, fully and definitively acquitted of murder, of stealing Meredith's money or of staging a break-in. What the Supreme Court was doing when they made this ruling is to make it clear Guede, and ONLY Guede, broke in, sexually assaulted Meredith, murdered her and then stole her money without actually coming out and stating the Supreme Court that finalized Guede's conviction made some glaring errors in the process.
Yes, another blatant lie so often repeated is that AK was an exchange student. She was a tourist, took Italian language for Foreigners courses
@@cavid8066 You really should know what you're talking about before you make such ridiculous claims.
An student exchange program is a program in which students from a secondary school or university study abroad at one of their institution's partner institutions. UW and Perugia's University for Foreigners had an exchange program and Amanda enrolled in it. Ergo, she was an exchange student.
A tourist is a person who is traveling or visiting a place for pleasure. As Amanda was in Perugia as part of the exchange program, she was not a tourist.
I can only imagine you think this was somehow demeaning or insulting to Amanda, but all you did is prove you have have an anti-Amanda agenda. I'm a little surprised you didn't also claim that Meredith was enrolled in the "prestigious" Erasmus programme. Now THAT would be "a blatant lie so often repeated", as virtually anyone can participate if they wish. But those who wish to put Meredith on a pedestal while belittling Amanda rarely are concerned with the truth.
The supreme court ruling says she was there, at least witnessed the murder, but they can´t ascertain degree of her participation.
@@levdavid2412 Read the ruling. They are referring to her interrogation statement that places her there. The ECHR has subsequently ruled Amanda's rights were violated during that interrogation and so that statement has been nullified. There is no evidence of her being there at the time of the murder, but there is plenty of circumstantial evidence that strongly suggests she was not.
And yes, they did ascertain her degree of participation - zero. Perhaps you've forgotten Amanda and Raffaele were definitively acquitted of all charges related to the murder.
I don't know if she's guilty, but I had to talk to detectives before, as a victim of a crime, and let me tell you, they were just incompetent, and not trustworthy at all. The 2nd time I talked to them (same 2 people), they claimed I didn't mention a detail to them the 1st time. My friend was present both times, and she confirmed that I in fact mentioned that detail to them during our 1st conversation. Then they didn't let me see the report, my own statement, they would only show it to a lawyer. The evidence of the crime was never examined, it was probably destroyed. The justice system often doesn't work.
She’s not the victims Meredith Kercher is. She’s dead
I suspect you might have a different perspective on what it means to be a victim should you ever spend four years in prison for a crime you didn't commit. Meredith was the victim of a sexual assault and murder by Guede. Amanda and Raffaele were the victims of a rogue prosecutor who was unwilling to admit his mistakes when he jumped to a conclusion without even waiting for a shred of forensic evidence to come in.
You are 100% GUILTY.
And you are 100% clueless.
@@TheTruthCalls You're very naive
@@Vanessa-bb2qo Don't confused ten years of research and discussion/debate with nativity.
@@TheTruthCalls you still gotta admit she never really showed any compassion towards Merediths gruesome murder and only ever pittied herself. She shows some very narcissistic character traits and even wrongly accused her chef.
I may be wrong, but I don't trust her. Someone who wrongly accuses someone else of murder and is willing to let the person stay for 25 years in prison is capable of anything.
I believe she did it and that poor girl gets no justice.
At the beginning of this terrible event I remember reading that her parents told her repeatedly to live Italy... She didn't!... Ruddy flee to Germany only A DAY after the murder...
She is intelligent enough to supposedly orchestrate a burglary gone wrong but she KEEPS the knife she supposedly used to kill Meredith?!...
There was supposedly MIXED BLOOD of Amanda and Meredith found in the bathroom, bathroom they SHARED... WHERE are the photos of the wounds Amanda would have sustained fighting with Meredith in order to leave mixed DNA?! And WHY wasn't Amanda's DNA found ON Meredith or IN Meredith’s bedroom?!... Or did the Italian police conveniently lost those pictures too?!... In another Documentary Sarah Gino, forensic biologist explains it very well. They ONLY tested for blood NEVER for saliva which could have very well be what was mixed with Meredith's blood... On the other hand, Ruddy DID have cuts and wounds when they found him!....
Ruddy was a drug addict and a burglar!... Amanda was a model student, had good grades, had no history of violence and was never in trouble with the law and all of a sudden she turns into this sex crave perverted evil 20 years old maniac that offers her roommate to be raped and participates in her brutal killing?!... Statistics all over the world are very clear about that. Women are rarely involved in sex crimes and rarely kill in such brutal fashion... It is not that women don't kill but they use poison in the majority of the cases...
Coul it be simply because she is a young modern woman in a chauvinistic, macho country?!... She is loud and obnoxious. That doesn't make her a cold hearted killer!...
And what about Raffaele?!... Nobody talks much about him either... ONLY Amanda!... Was he to an innocent victim of a 20 years old young woman that never had any problem with the law and suddenly turned into that sex craved, depraved, evil maniac?!... And all that ONLY ONE WEEK after they met?!...
Because she didn't cry in public that makes her a cold hearted, depraved, psychopath murderer?!... I hide my emotions and don't cry in public. Does that make me a psychopath?!...
She kissed her boyfriend in front of the house while the police was investigating. Could it be that she simply was in shock and needed to be comforted?!... And I personally don’t see any smile in her face. I see a young confused woman…
She didn't go to the funeral and "went shopping for underwear"... The house was off limits during the investigation therefore, SHE DIDN’T HAVE ANY CLOTHES to change INCLUDING UNDERWEAR!...
The police interrogated her 53 hours in the course of 5 days and EACH time they FORGOT to record the interrogations?!...
I will stop there because this is getting ridiculous!...
A young 20 years old woman that was never faced with such a brutal event. Why on earth would she have thought that somebody was brutally raped and murdered in her house?!... Would you, at 20?!... The few drops of blood in the sink she saw when she came into the bathroom but she share the house with four people, remember, the diluted blood on the bath matt, the same, she saw it only after showering... The unflushed toilet wasn't in the bathroom she used to shower if I remember correctly...
Amanda was in trouble with the law for violence?!... That's the very first time I read about it and I have researched a lot about this case...
And WHY only that knife they tested?!... What about all the others in the kitchen?!...
And if she didn't suspect a violent crime why would she have knocked on Meredith's door and wake her up, IF she thought that Meredith was in the house!...
And what about Ruddy?!... He fits more the profile. A known burglar, a drug addict, a drug dealer!...
E Gagnon, it is not that Knox should have known that a murder had happened. It is that she saw all those things but still didn't knock on Meredith's door to see if she was ok. There had been very high tensions between Amanda and Meredith. I really do recommend you read the book I mentioned before.
Liz K, the bathroom was very clean in spite of the stain on the bathmat and a few isolated drops of blood, some of which she did not see. She did not see the broken window until she came back with Raffaele. When she went into Laura and Filomena's bathroom and saw Rudy's turd she became concerned and got out of there quick. Was she to go to Meredith's room and knock and maybe the burglar was still there? Now the postal police come with Meredith's phones found dumped in Lana's yard a mile away and know about the broken window and still they did not want to kick Meredith's door open so Filomena's boyfriend did instead. So by your logic the postal police were part of the satanic orgy.
Imateapot51, Amanda Knox admitted to Diane Sawyer that she saw the bloodied
footprint when she out of the shower. She admitted to seeing the unflushed
toilet, blood in the sink and the open front door. You say some of the blood, "she did not see"; YOU WERE NOT AT THE CRIME SCENE.
Amanda, after seeing all that, remembered to take a mop. She remembered
a mop over Meredith?? And still did not phone Meredith. She went back and had breakfast and only mentioned it to
Raffaele during breakfast, (according to her account). So, according to her own account, she wasn't concerned at all until Raffaele said she should be concerned.
The postal police did not break down the door because they had not yet got
permission from the landlord. You're being ridiculous with your 'satanic orgy'. You are trying to find any excuse for Knox and Sollecito; so in that your logic makes perfect sense.
this interview is outrageous.
She knows more than she said.
I watched the documentary on netflix and I study psychology (but am no expert)... I think we will never know what truly happened, but I do think something is off with all the evidence presented and how everyone involved reacted. I do not know if amanda is innocent or guilty or if her bf at the time did it or not or if someone else did. But I do think someone does know what happened and they are either lying to fear being blamed or to protect someone. We will never know. I do think Amanda and her bf do know more than they lead on, something is just off.
Lulu Love
I completely agree. I have a question for you though. Have you watched "Making a Murder"? If so, what did you think about that?
Belleamaro J I haven't seen that one :/ should I?
Lulu Love
It's a really good documentary but it's 10 hours long lol. It just shows how a county basically framed a guy that was suing them for 36 million dollars. Some say he really did commit the crime, others say he's innocent. Kinda like this whole Amanda Knox thing too.
Lulu Love agreed
you're so stupid lol
Merideth is the real victim here. She has been forgotten and that’s really sad 😢.
A black man is in prison, and a girl is dead.
She slandered her employer and bolted from Italy.
She had an Italian boyfriend/lover but didn’t stick with him though the end; bolted the first chance she got.
Whether she did it or not, her character is not to be trusted. She’ll throw you under the bus to save herself.
GerMart did you NOT READ what I wrote?
I never said she’s guilty or murdered that girl.
Just that she’s not to be trusted.
If you were her boyfriend, and she accuses others for a serious crime... what makes you think that you’re not next?
Oh yea, her employer(who was later acquitted) and the guy that was “guilty” were both black.
I’m still ignorant? Takes one to know one, boss.
No matter what the verdict is, she has to stand before God and the Almighty is the final judge.
David Archer How do you know?
Am still not convinced she is innocent
why? do you have any proof/evidence or is it just your opinion, which matters very little here?
So do I..there is substantial circumstantial evidence that points to her involvement in some way.
@@kq1777 You are right. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that points to her involvement. I wonder how many of her US supporters are aware that she stated that she had met with Rudy Guede on a number of occasions. Most people in the US only know the Knox PR version.
@@mikedee1771 I agree. At the very least she is withholding evidence. Innocent people don't constantly change their alibi. They just don't.
Race played a large role in how the media handled this. The media is pathetic.
She witnessed the murder. Her and her ex boyfriend know exactly what happened
....they know what happened, that's for sure....nobody else knows more than they do....apart from Guede, of course!
Guava Memories nope she is innocent Rudy’s Dna was all over Meredith case closed
No. Rudy knows what happened......
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She wouldn't have resisted not using the knife.
Oh, you were there?
Not exonerated just acquitted. Got off on procedural technicalities
Yeah, procedural technicalities like "not a scintilla of credible evidence placing her at the crime scene."
The fishiest thing is why did Knox blame Lumumba? Her calumnia conviction was upheld by each court. Shes legally innocent but her story is still hard to swallow anyway
billiswilling because she was innocent and if she didn’t make anything up she would still be in jail
Fatal Attraction all over again...scary individual who one day will be back behind bars.
David Archer In was talking about Amanda Knox
People keep saying "she's a liar, she did it". yes, she lied. Yes, she was a young, selfish, overly confident girl 9 years ago. That does NOT make her a murderer. If that was 'evidence' of guilt, then arrest 90 percent of all 20 year old girls. Geez. Get over it, you fell for the media's portrayal of this case, you were duped. She is not guilty. Move on.
Amanda used to enjoy branding innocent people as guilty when she was high in Italy - Ask poor Lumumba - She'll get creepier and creepier especially when she needs money and attention - Yuk !
Oh yes, let's just forget that both the Italian Supreme Court and the European Court of Human Rights confirmed her rights were violated during the interrogation that results in Lumumba getting implicated.
On what basis would you conclude Amanda "used to enjoy branding innocent people as guilty when she was high in Italy"? There is no indication that Amanda was anything other than traumatized and terrorized at the time Lumumba was implicated, and there is no evidence she was "high" during the interrogation. More ignorant commentary...
@@TheTruthCalls she herself suspected Lumbada. Said he was at their house although he wasn't. There wasn't any of Lumbadas DNA found so she blatantly lied!
Her ,trauma of the interrogation' is the cheapest excuse I've ever heard
@@Vanessa-bb2qo Either you are entirely unaware of what transpired during the interrogation, or you do know but choose to ignore it. I don't know which it is, but I suspect attempting to educate you about it would be of little help. I'd also suggest you go read the results from both the Boninsegna court and the ECHR, both of which deal with the interrogation and the resultant calunnia charge, but again, I suspect you're not interested in understanding what took place.
Why do people assume that, in such extraordinary circumstances, there is a "normal" way that people are _supposed_ to behave?
BREAKING: Amanda Knox (@amandaknox
), who falsely accused Patrick Lumumba, a Congolese man, of the murder of British exchange student Meredith Kercher in Italy in 2007, has been re-convicted of slander. Lumumba had been kind to her, giving her a part-time job. However, she deliberately lied about him to exonerate herself and later blamed police pressure. The court has just reconvicted her. lol
You hated the fact that Meredith hated you and her friends. You couldn't stand it. You started a fight with her and ended up killing her.
Amanda hated the fact that Meredith hated her friends? I'm pretty sure she liked her friends, but maybe you know something no one else does. Aside from that, you probably aren't aware that there is substantial evidence that suggests they were friends who enjoyed their time together and that those who actually WERE THERE and knew them have testified they had a good, normal relationship. But you just go on deluding yourself if it makes you feel better.
I watched that on Netflix last night. It was a good doc.
Can we find the film on youtube?
Why the prosecutor did those claims aganist her? Because the real perpetrator emerged after a week. And prosecutor did not budge. Cause he wanted to keep up his credibility.
Sorry but you are wrong. Rudy Guede was connected to a very similar break in at a Perugia law office just 5 days before when caught in Milan with its stolen property. He was released with the stolen property which he returned with an apology. Cops stood in Filemena's room and did not remember 5 days? Bs. Mignini and Stefanoni did not allow the coroner to take Meredith's temperature making the time of death flexible and that is only needed to frame innocent people. Mignini knew Rudy did it by 9:30 the night of the murder. At 9:30 a resident just outside the gates received a "prank" phone call that there was a bomb in her bathroom. She called the police and they came in minutes. They got out of their cars with flashlights and headed away from the house and began searching and this was the exact spot Meredith's phones were found the next day. The odds of that are 1 in a billion. This was a frame up from hour one. Mignini did everything to protect Rudy Guede and his connection to the police or himself. This was not tunnel vision this was a frame up.
+Patrick Christ where can I read about that ?
Hilsermarys Valor Rodriguez www.amandaknoxcase.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Testimony-of-Elisabetta-Lana.pdf
Because Magnini put his theory FIRST before the evidence. He then tried to bend and shape or manipulate or IGNORE the evidence to fit his theory. SADLY, this is common in wrongful convictions.
Amanda Knox was NEVER exonerated.
Yes, because she was never convicted. But she was fully and definitively acquitted of the crime. I know that sticks in the craw of a dedicated guilter such as yourself, but them are the facts.
@@TheTruthCalls Acquitted is not exonerated
@@ipsosmaati1971 You're correct, but only because Amanda was never convicted. Had she actually been convicted, and then acquitted, it would have been an exoneration.
She may be guilty, but if I was the one being interrogated like that, I don't know if I would trust my memories as well.
5:31 THE MOST FAKE EXPRESSION EVER SEEN FROM A SOCIOPATH
Amanda Knox was as innocent as a new born baby . She was young and naïve in a strange country with a language barrier who did not understand fully the events after the murder . She may have acted strange but that was because she was in shock ,did not know how to react of her friend being murdered . The psycho prosecutor conjured up some insane theory about a drug fueled orgy gone wrong with Knox's extreme sexual apatite and was called the sex devil. The problem with all this bull was they already had the killer Rudy Geday Rudy acted alone as there was so much of his DNA everywhere while not a trace of Knox DNA found at the scene as if she wiped all her DNA clean ,
Rudy fled the country right after the crime and he called his best friend from Germany discussing the events all recorded and at no time did he ever mention Knox and her boyfriend as being involved in the murder. Rudy was not even thinking about the 2 lovers and was never put on the stand as a material witness involved a murder case . What court would not put Rudy on the stand when Knox and Solicito were being tried for the same crime. A person who was supposedly acting with the young couple for the murder. That is because the lovers were not involved by any means in the crime. The Italians love such drama and wanted to convict because of sensationalism No proof of any kind existed except for some dubious DNA on a bra clasp which was unfounded Nonetheless they were convicted then overturned convicted again and finally overturned altogether . Knox made a mistake implicating the bartender because she did not know what else to do , She was not given a chance to consult with legal counsel and was interviewed without sleep food and language problems they abused her so much during interrogation anyone would have admitted to killing JFK
She knows much more than she's letting on. A woman of bad charachter in my opinion. Why blame an innocent man.....no it wasn't under confession pressure because she continued to blame him for some time after. The whole thing stinks with too many contradictions. Remind me to keep away from Seattle and the US.
If she didnt behave that way nobody would have accused her in a first place.
I disagree. Mignini all but admits he suspected Amanda right from the beginning. He believed the break-in was staged, he believed a woman covered the body and he believed Amanda was not behaving as she should have.
No one should ever be accused of murder because of how they behave. People should be convicted based on evidence, facts, motive and opportunity, none of which existed in this case.
This is heartbreaking!
She's GUILTY!! It's so obvious.
And you're obvious clueless!!
It's really so clear..... I'm not saying she is the murderer/killer......but if I got sentenced or punished for something I did not do...... I would yelling... Crying..... Screaming..... Let the whole world know, that I'm fucking innocent!! But the only thing she does..... Is putting up a sad face...... At such huge event...... I say :... She knows more, but will not tell. And I'm really trying to be neutral..... Hmmmm, What a strange girl and what a strange behavior......
What a bizarre comment. How was she supposed to do that when she was locked up for four years? And ever since she got released she's been telling the world of her innocence - so much so that she's criticized for it - yet you somehow think she hasn't been doing this. Go figure...
It’s too easy to imagine her stabbing someone I don’t think she is innocent
How the hell does one become "...too easy to imagine stabbing someone"?? I bet you don't know a damn thing about the case. You people scare me!
Know was never exonerated! one more lie
Amanda and Raffaele appear to not have any distress for Meredith.
why would they they have a electric chord up there ass
She is just Meredith roommate not her significant others or family members. Would you display significant grief when someone you barely knew for a few weeks died? That would be weird.
@@mllex2018 They would at least show empathy and respect. Amanda specially seems to focus this all on her suffering.
There are a lot of cases when the real murderer shows empathy and cries a lot over the dead person. It doesn't show or prove anything. Besides everyone grieves in their own way
Or maybe look towards other people that might have killed your friend? Seems like you genuinely don’t care that your friend and roommate died. That’s what makes you seem guilty.
Exactly. Rudy Guede was convicted of ‘murder in concert with others’. And the court which ACQUITTED Amanda concluded that there were multiple attackers. Why is Amanda not trying to find those other attackers?
She murdered Kercher
she had SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. A body language expert has already proven this. Girl just shut up and move on. YOU'RE lucky. Don't push your luck trying to "spread the word" you know what happened.
This lier made a statement that incriminated another person! She is not an exonaree , She had no amnesia? While lying?
So after 4 years, she becomes exonerated? What about all the time they took away from her life incarcerating her for 4 whole years? She'll never get those 4 years back. Did she at least file a lawsuit for wrongful conviction and win?
She needs to be in jail
I'm late but I feel like this is everyones fault:
The prosecutor was obsessed
The investigation was flawed
And A knox is covering up the whole truth
Alarm bells are going off
And poor Meredith 😔
RIP
Agreed. Usually when there is a big mess like this , its not just one person who made the mistake..its multiple parties all made mistakes and it all coming together yo create a giant headache and confusion for everyone involved.
the evidence did not prove her innocence. It was not sufficient to prove her culpability beyond reasonable doubt and her lawyers were clever to question it. I do not believe that she was hit by the police and she inculpated someone completely innocent. Sorry but she has something to do with it, some degree of participation.
There wasn't a shred of evidence tying Amanda or Raffaele to the crime while there was copious evidence tying Rudy Guede to it. There is no doubt he was in the cottage, no doubt he sexually assaulted Meredith. His DNA was in her, on her bra, on her sweater and on her purse. His palm print, made in Meredith's blood, was found in the room. His shoe prints, made in Meredith's blood, in the room and tracked down the hall. He was implicated in several B&E's prior to the murder, and he was seen twice on CCTV outside the cottage (none of the CCTV cameras between Raffaele's apartment and the cottage ever caught a glimpse of either Amanda or Raffaele, but it did capture Guede twice and Meredith as she arrives home). It absolutely blows my mind how people can be duped by the media and become incapable of seeing the obvious. You don't squeeze four people into a tiny bedroom, commit a violent, bloody murder and have two people leave the room without leaving a forensic trace of themselves while the third person leaves all sorts of evidence.
As a Brit and someone who is from Leeds the uni Meridith attended I was taken in by the msm and was convinced that Amanda is guilty but after watching 48hrs I am now certain this girl is innocent! This Italian prosecutor is nuts! He had a scenario in his head about what happened and he was going to bend the evidence to fit it!
She knew more that she told.
That is dumb. Why not read the evidence in lieu of a cheesy entertainment show??
Exoneree? LOL She knows what happened. She's only half psychopath, so it still haunts her on some level. What was your PCL--R score, dear? 18? 22? Close enough.
Probably less than 5 if you grade her according to what's established with her background and not what you speculate she did during a crime she was acquitted of participating in.
I pity anyone involved with this woman.
I guess you don't pity Rudy Guede then :P
Wow, that whole ordeal aged her a lot. You can see it in her face
Well, it's been 9 years.
Not the ordeal....the guilt!
Question? I just watched the doc on Netflix, why would she take a shower if she saw that her front door of her house was open. wouldn't you want to call the police for that being a possible burglary. also when she steps out on the bath mat she saw a splotch of blood, that looks very much like a foot print.
Sophistikatieb when you come from a protects world where nothing bad really happens, i. e. Suburbs. , it's not in your bubble of reality. People leave doors unlocked, it happens. And if you are female you can relate to this: she thought the blood in the bathroom was period blood.
Sophistikatieb when young people travel a long way maybe they have not traveled much .
That can be incredibly dreamy they lose their critical faculties .
They are just blown away by it all .
Amanda's behave your doesn't surprise me at all .
I know this by experience of meeting other Europeans here in London .
It takes then three months before they realise their new boyfriend is a massive heroin addict .
i agree. Something is not right but sadly we will never know who did it as there wasnt enough evidence or dna to show for definite who did this. I would love to see all 3 of them sit on front of a lie detector though and hear the results.
Duggy well Rudy guede s DNA is all over Meredith and inside her and Amanda's is very minimal
Guede was found guilty of this murder he is a dope dealer and has previous for burglary
The only person suggesting more people were involved is the prosecutor giuliano migninni
Check him out in you tube then it will all make sense
it doesnt make sense though. If this guedea dna was all over her then why was amanda knox found guilty twice.
That prosecutor is a disgrace to mankind...and Amanda, she is beautiful and free.
Her beauty has nothing to do with this.
I wish I could believe her, she is from the same small Seattle suburb as me and I want to think that we don't have murderers there. I just don't though, nothing adds up.
bizarre. the case against her was so irrational and strange. why would you doubt her? Anyway, good thing our system is doesn't have your standard.
She's guilty in my opinion..The only person who went jail for this is the black man ofcourse...
She is definitely a psychopath if she can get away with murder then live a live advocating "wrongful convictions"
Also she is definitely a unhinged sociopathic individual.
What is your educational level to diagnose someone with a mental disorder?
Nancy Parker Well a lot more intelligent than her.
fozzerbluenose So you won't answer? My daughter has a masters in the mental health field and she got me to start following this case after the first trial, she said she was innocent so I've done a lot of studying this case, the Italian laws, the extradition laws, the DNA evidence, ect...So again, what is your educational level to diagnose someone with a mental disorder?
No response?
Nancy Parker good day to Nancy Parker, I can read that you are asking the person "what is there educational level" to be assessing the case, I could be wrong but as you also state that your daughter has a masters in mental health I guess your talking about university educated level, in that case I would like to say that I myself have never been to university or college to study psychology and the Science of the human brain ect ect. But what I have learnt in my 77 years of being on this earth is mankind in general is one of the most complex issues to try and break down and investigate and understand, yes there has been many a clever individual who has come along over the years and pioneered new understandings into the complex minds of severely ill mental patients but what we know still only scraps a small percentage of what there is to know, the human mind/brain is just as complex as trying to find out what is beyond the universe, so going back to your daughters masters at university.....I could carry on but I will leave the rest to you..I'm confident you might figure it out.
Thanks for reading ..and I apologise for my bad grammar, I suffer from dyslexia and mental illness.
The case involved a game that got out of control. Pretty obvious. Knox enlists Sollecito and Guede's help to scare Kercher regarding the money and other disagreements. That's why they take the knives. Things get out of control and Kercher screams so someone stabs her in the throat to shut her up. Probably didn't have the intention of killing her. Guede leaves quickly and Knox and Sollecito are left stunned to clean up the mess. They're stoned so don't do a very good job. They clean their evidence in the room leaving RG's but leave evidence in the hallway and bath. Then they clumsily stage the break in and choose the wrong window and room. Also, they offer other contradictory evidence like the false alibis and fingering PL. They were at the very least complicit in MK's murder.
However, they probably knew they were doing something criminal and things could go wrong because they turned off their cell phones. And, people keep saying they were too amateurish to clean the room and leave no evidence. Thinking like criminals when they turn off their cell phones.
Actually the window turned out to be a perfect choice, because Guede has a history of cat burglary break-ins at difficult to climb locations, including bashing a second story window with a rock. So maybe Amanda was tagging along with Guede during his crime spree and that's how she learned his MO. Or maybe your theory is just crap and something you made up because you can't get over your bad hunch based on an unrecorded interrogation and little else.
+Paul You certainly have a lively fantasy, even more lively than most of the Italian courts.
Normally people who are falsely accused state over and over that they are INNOCENT with conviction and frustration. Knox doesn't do that, does she? She always wants to focus on how the evidence was collected poorly (remember, OJ's lawyers agued the same thing about the DNA collection). She's always taking angles instead of flat out asserting her innocence. And whenever she attempts to say straight up that she's not guilty of murder, her body starts spazzing out, her voice lilts/crumbles and she barely can get out her lie. Every time she gulps pre/post lie, I laugh now. It's obvious to notice when she's lying, her voice and words betray her every time she attempts to appear convincing.
Knox is gonna be forever an emotional wreck for what she's trying to hide and live with.
Don't pity the guilty, find them in public and shame them.
The person above keeps posting debunked evidence and gets all his information from hater websites maintained by anonymous trolls. If you want to learn about the case read the Italian supreme ruling that exonerated Amanda and Raffaele. Google Bruno Maresca.
BBC is a "hater" website? Nice. Everything I share is cited in the link. Deal w it.
Is this the "hater" website; themurderofmeredithkercher.com/Myths_debunked You can always scroll down to the notes in order to see if anything was manufactured info. So for the 1000th time, nice try ya filthy liar. If you "wanna learn about the case" do yourself a favor don't let PR lies mislead you to misinformation.
Don't let them fool you, Knox will spend the rest of her life running from what she did. Don't enable a lying, closet racist/wannabe elitist who tried setting up an innocent man for murder so she wouldn't be seen as a suspect.
Ya know what's hilarious, her and Raffy (the guy she coached through their attempts to be seen as innocent) no longer talky. It's like they can't stand each other's presence since it reminds them of what they did. Normally innocent people that go through a trauma are forged together from the experience. Not these two. They both probably feel sick from seeing each other. It's great!
The BBC video plays for 59 minutes making Amanda seem as guilty as possible and then they spend a minute on they are exonerated in full. Yes the bbc video was full of lies. And you post a link to the website that is a hater site and I answered the questions on another thread a month ago. And you ignored them and went away. Maybe answer what the police were doing in Lana's garden and I will waist 10 minutes again on your disproved bs you can not even think of on your own.
Aaaaannnnnd you're back. You offered an opinion on BBC's doc without sharing anything real to refute it.
BBC's research and journalism > "person" hiding behind multiple anonymous youtube accounts.
Alan Dershowitz's opinion on the evidence against herplip > Your constant dismissal of any evidence against her.
You only lie and spread misinfo here "teapot". You're going off Marriot's narrative, repeating the exact same lies her and her family conjured to make her innocence seem plausible to the public.
I cannot be on this page everyday like you have for so many years now and I have no urge to play you game of lies so most everything you say isn't even worth a direct rebuttal. You wanna lead people into a "garden' and get them to forget about the faked robbery and cleanup. It's not working.
Also, you attack all of my comments out of pride. You're not "wasting time" like you claim, you're pushing a boulder up a hill everyday, you have no choice. That makes me wonder who you are cuz I think I snagged what I was looking for.
My writing shows I can, in fact, "think on my own". Good insult, though. Only makes me think how Knox lacks wit yet thinks her prose is worth sharing for money. Know what I'm sayin, nom de plume shyte writer teapot ;)
Okay Jim thinks on your own. So maybe start out with posting on your own Amanda's second lie.
STOP CUTTING INTERVIEWS AND EDITING THEM. I WANT TO SEE ALL OF HER BODY LANGUAGE AND THINGS SHE STUMBLES UPON VERBALLY.
You could try reading the meaningless tea leaves that is body language, or you could read the evidence at the crime scene, burglar Rudy Guede's DNA from the rapekit, his fresh dripping bloody prints all over the scene, his history of similar break-ins and carrying a knife while committing crimes. That vs some random student stuttering on camera. Gee I wonder who did it.
why was she snooping in everyones rooms and others bathrooms, she stole merediths money and killed her
Why do you say that Rudy was the actual killer? He confessed to being at the cottage when Meredith was murdered. The court ruled that Amanda was at the cottage when Meredith was murdered. Amanda told at least 23 lies from her first encounter with the police and throughout the whole trial. Amanda is as guilty as sin. She had motive to kill Meredith, Rudy did not.
just another nutbar
james rae Alright Amanda, you’re good with the sarcasm, but you never explain the mountain of LIES. An innocent person doesn’t lie. Ever.
Knox's not guilty result was motivated by American political pressure on the Rome Appellate Division.
Amanda Knox's case illustrates why you should never speak to the police but allow a case to go to trial.
On seeing the evidence against her it is clear that she is innocent and unfortunately her 'cooperating' with the police is what made things worse for her.
Exactly. That is the lesson everyone should take from this. You think the police are there to help, and usually they are, but never assume they wont get you in their sights and develop tunnel vision. If Amanda had simply said she wouldn't speak with the police until she had a lawyer present none of this would have happened. People fear it might make you look guilty, but better to lawyer up and 'look' guilty than not lawyer up and 'become' guilty.
@@TheTruthCalls she is very young that time. She had no idea.
When she is asked if she killed her her voice says No but look at her head movement noding Yes. I'ts normal when people are lying.
It's also normal when people are getting their point across....Whatever you do, don't give up your day job cause you suck at micro expressions/body language.
I dont know where you learned this. But you are clueless.
Marcus Fenix If there were anything proven about body expressions it would be allowed in courts but it's more subjective than polygraphs.
Nancy Parker What about when questioned about returning to the apartment and finding bloodstains, Knox said 'I didn't think anyone had been murdered' and laughed out loud. Yet Meredith was supposed to have been her close friend who was very dear to her. Her problem is that she now has had to adopt a completely fake persona to convince the public of her innocence. This must be quite a strain for her. So there are times when the mask slips.
“Why would you confess to something you didn’t do?”
I think I can answer that.
Has this ever happened to you: an adult accuses you of doing something you didn’t do. Your parents say, “So-and-so said you did (fill in the blank). You said you didn’t. Your parents say, “ Are you calling So-and-So a liar?” You admit to doing whatever it was because you figure calling an authority figure a liar will cause you to get in more trouble.
"Other than the murder of your room-mate how was your exchange student experience?" She got lucky and is in Seattle still looking innocent. Who smiles during a friends murder?
She can not smile 11 years later?
@@imateapot51 apparently, she should be ashamed, sad, and grieving for the rest of her life even if she's innocent.
@@VirginiaVirginie She is innocent. She is just as innocent as you are and I am and should we be ashamed? For what? Even if? It is not 2007. She is innocent. So is Raffaele.
@@Canlastmt2410 That must be why the police (mignini) destroyed Amanda and Meredith's computers, just to make sure they did not have any photos smiling together.
@@imateapot51 that's my point. But people want her to be ashamed, sad, and grieving for the rest of her life. If she's innocent, she deserves to be left alone. We only have one life! They should let her live already.
More like LIES of an Exonoree.
Her not guilty result was brought about by American political pressure.
You ask the people you ate dinner with, during Kercher's candle light, you were looking for for alternative answers
its really nice of her that she works to help others who are falsely accused of crimes
even if she is a criminal, isnt it nice to help the many who are falsely accused of crimes? it happens all the time in america sadly, like 1 out of 9 or 10 people sentenced to the death penalty are innocent. its sad
of course i do not support murder at all, but i mean its not like she got out of jail and with all her publicity went after fame like danielle bregoli or something...at least she is working for people in similar situations ya know?
Minimalist Vlogger She is a fraud. She was hired to represent falsely accused people when she herself falsely accused an innocent man. She is a felon for life for this crime. She continues to lie, saying she is an exoneree when the fact is, she was acquitted. She also says she was declared innocent, when the fact is the Italian courts with 2 trials & 2 appeals NEVER said she was innocent. I’m not sure why people treat her like a celebrity? No other country would do this. Rudy has been shunned in Italy since the day of his release. Furthermore, people believe she cares for them. Absolutely not. She is not capable of caring for anyone except herself. One day the truth will come out.
she looks so much like Karla Souza who plays Laurel from how to get away with murder!
My mind is blown. I just can't believe why anyone who is of sound mind and morals doesn't think that Rudy Guede 100% did this? I am so sorry Amanda had to go through that horrific experience.
I think its just the incidence of her weird flat personality. We'll never the know the truth of what happened.
Oopsie Daisy 84 at the time she had changed her story on multiple occasions (including some ridiculous things like she can't remember), this info was being published in real time all over the world, people naturally questioned her credibility
wireside Widebrow
Cuz she takes a lot of drugs and drink alcohol. But there is no evidence she committed murder aside from suspiciousness generated from her odd behavior,....which can easily be driven by drugs.
Except that the Italian Supreme Court in their ruling said she was in the cottage and probably washed the victim's blood from her hands but couldn't prove she participated. Talk about convoluted.
It doesn't matter what you think it looks like. It is what was in their findings. Convoluted.
Her fake crying speaks bad for her
I read her book..i believe she did it and thought the black dude being convicted of it would make the world just move on and not dig deeper which is what i believe has happened with the overturning of her initial conviction..🤔That girl is honestly off her rocker
Damn, when you listen to her speak, she's so very thoughtful and insightful and smart. I feel so horrible for people who get completely railroaded by corrupt liars like she did. I hope she can live a happy and fulfilling life after the hell she went through for no reason other than the wild sex fantasies spun by a dirty pig foreign cop and scumbag tabloid writers.