One of the many things that bugs me about her is that in all of her interviews, you will not find her saying one kind word about Meredith. By all accounts, Meredith was a wonderful, beautiful person. But all Amanda ever says about her is 'She was my friend', period. She never talks about how tragic it is that such a beautiful person was lost to the world - never. Guilty or not, there is something terrible about this person.
@@brianna094 Where do such horrible conclusions come from? She's being interviewed, and she's explaining the morning of discovery and all that happened. She was not required to fawn over Meredith, and in fact, it would have been out of place. But Amanda has repeatedly expressed the sadness of Meredith's death. You people grab one interview, don't find what you're looking for, and come up with this conclusion. Imagine if someone decided to interpret your every move in such a negative manner. Shameful. You don't know here nor do you have any idea what she felt for Meredith. No wonder this world is in such horrible shape... so much meanness, nastiness, and hatred. Really sad.
Amanda's said she returned home found the front door wide open, no one home, blood in the bathroom, calmly showers, steps out of the shower finds more blood and a strangers shit in the toilet. she does not try to contact anyone for over an hour.Her story is so improbable it cannot be true.
@mistertruth1947 Perhaps you're not aware of the fact that the front door latch was broken and if you didn't set the deadbolt the door could open. That's why she wasn't too concerned, she assumed someone came home and had to step out for a minute and didn't lock the door. No big deal. The amount of visible blood was minimal and heavily diluted. Again, I've seen worse from paper cuts and she simply never considered something worse had happened. She has said that after she found the feces, that was the final straw and she began to be concerned. It's easy in hindsight to think these things should have instantly made her feel like something serious had happened, but she wasn't thinking that way and as she says, her first instinct was she might be over-reacting. Interestingly, you find this account "so improbably it cannot be true" yet you apparently have no problem believing two people, never in trouble, no history of anger or violence, suddenly teamed up with someone they didn't even know to murder her housemate and friend, and in the process they left no forensic trace of themselves in the bloody murder room. I find this infinitely more difficult to believe.
Knox WROTE it in TWO statements that Patrick Lumumba killed Meredith and she signed these two statements. In one of them she wrote: " I confusedly remember Patrick killing Meredith ' She didn't casually mentioned it, she WROTE it in ENGLISH and signed it too. She even asks the cops in her statement if they have found any evidence against Patrick ? I mean, how callous she can be ! Patrick was totally unconnected to this crime but she accused him because she fired her.
According to an interview with The Observer (via The Guardian) following that acquittal, Lumumba believes Knox was found not guilty because of status and appearances. “Amanda is free because she is American, but Americans are human like everybody," Lumumba said. As of last year, the 43-year-old Lumumba was living in Krakow, Poland with his wife. He has alleged that Knox's accusation and his involvement in this case lost him his business and made it impossible to find another job in Perugia. “What Amanda did I don’t know, but I think she knows why Meredith died," Lumumba told The Guardian.
@@bobbyfuller3118 foxy Knox might be innocent or not? One thing I don't like about her is hows she's cashing in on this and making it all about her. No shame and laughing in her interviews.
He did not fire her. The police brought him up and she was looking for a way out so she pinned it on him. But under immense psychological pressure, she just wanted this nightmare to end. Rudy committed this all by himself, he was a known burglar, notorious liar, and fled by train afterwards, what more proof do you need?
@@bobbyfuller3118 As if Lumumba has any idea what happened. Interestingly, during the trial his testimony was nothing but glowing for Amanda. He had nothing negative to say about her other than she wasn't the best waitress. Lumumba's business was already failing when this happened. He was not able to compete with the larger, more established pubs. As for her two interrogation statements - her rights were violated during the interrogation and both the ISC and ECHR have deemed the results inadmissible. She was coerced. She did write two letters after being arrested, and in those letters she made it clear she was pressured and lied to, and that she did not believe the statements to be true. In fact, in the second letter she makes it clear she is certain she never left Raffaele's and that she has no idea who killed Meredith. She recanted the interrogation statements. Even the ECHR came to this conclusion. The police knew Lumumba was at his pub because other people had already come forward, but the police still held him until a professor returned to Italy specifically to attest to his whereabouts, at which time they released him. That was two weeks in jail. Want to know when the police allowed him to open the pub again? Two MONTHS after the arrest. I suspect they didn't care much for the criticism he had for them. Coincidentally, just about the time that Lumumba changed his story about both the police and Amanda, THAT is when the police allowed him to open the pub.
"I should have realised that they already suspected me then." The 'already' is exactly what a guilty person would say.. nothing she says could feel right to the senses.. but this last sentence (at the end of the video) really stood out to me for some reason. A far more natural and honest sentence would have been "I should have realised that they suspected me then."
18:30 to 18:45 she looks absolutely terrifying, her facial expression, everything. Who would laugh while recalling about blood on a bed when there’s police in your apartment and they’re talking about your roommate being murdered. Also “it was a body wrapped on a blanket” ?! Wtf. Freak
Totally guilty!!!!!!!! When a killer doesn't talk or want to help with finding the actually killer is guilty. You and your boyfriend are creepy as hell
@suzysmith4254 The problem with your comment is that Amanda made no effort to leave, and deliberately spent tens of hours with the police hoping to help them identify the killer. She talked - probably too much - and she did everything the police asked of her, yet you claim she didn't want to help find the killer. I have no idea why you think that, but you are wrong.
The fact that she immediately accused her boss who was a black man to have done it, who was quickly proven innocent, makes me feel like she did it , or else why would she accuse a random guy who has never been to her apartment before.
The simple response is that she didn't "immediately" accuse her boss. That was at the end of roughly 50 hours of interrogation, in the middle of the night, where the police gave her a false statement to sign, under physical coercion and threats that she wouldn't see her family again if she didn't sign.
@@kqatsi Simply not true. Her first interview lasted 2 hours and she volunteered her old boss as murderer who was therefore arrested. Lumumba who was suspected of the crime and held for 3 weeks stated that despite bring a black African suspected of murder, he was never mistreated or abused. The myth of police abuse against Knox is a lie to explain away why she smeared Patrick Lumumba.
Katsi is right. She absolutely didn't "immediately" accuse him. She shouldn't have accused him, obviously, and you should, just as obviously, keep in mind that she did this while being badgered by police for hours on end and being treated like a murderous liar. If she is innocent, which I find highly likely, this doesn't seem as heinous as you make it out to be. She was desperate, simple as... I think, innocent or not, it is absolutely terrifying that she was ever even charged with this ridiculously miniscule amount of "evidence". The "evidence" was, essentially, she acted weird, leaving without calling 911 and calling all her roommates and her mom first. She was hesitant and didn't want to rush things. It was pretty stupid, which I'm sure she has long realized. We should learn from this, that you should rather call the police one too many than one too few times.
When someone speak of the murder of someone close to them, smiling and giggling is NOT normal. Amanda is talking about a murder not a romantic story. She enjoys the interview because attention is on her. She’s creepy. Italy’s justice system failed.
Wow, just wow. There are countless times she called her "friend" and "housemate". That doesn't prove anything. Stop collecting pathetic "evidence" to back up your preconceived opinion.
@youejtube7692 Given they had just gone to the chocolate festival together, two days in a row, and a week later they went to a classical concert together, I'd say you conclusion of her not liking Meredith is without merit. Besides, the people who knew them both.. the ones they lived with or met daily, all said they had a good, normal friendship. My god, you people just conjure up whatever the hell makes you feel better, without any concern for the people you're doing harm to.
she repeats that Filomena was hysterical as if that was something very unusual.. like wtf Amanda YES of course she is hysterical, someone got brutally murdered in her+your appartement - why are you not, Amanda? Why are you not?
At the time, the situation was that there was a giant doodoo in the toilet and that Mercher's door was locked with no answer. Still pretty clear that she should call 911, not her roommate, but this behavior is the entire "case". She is passive, naive and too agreeable, yes. That explains this behavior, too. Convicting people for murder, even as a private opinion, should a LOT mor than this.
Amanda didn't actually see into Meredith's bedroom after the door was kicked open. Filomena saw all of the blood and someone's foot protruding from under the blanket. So of course Filomena freaked out while Amanda was left to wonder and imagine for herself what was actually in Meredith's bedroom.
I don’t know if she did it or not. But, who tells all these meticulous details?? That’s something I noticed. The laughing and smiling. This was a brutal murder of her roommate. It’s like she’s talking about a day in the park. Good Lord!!
Apart from that, hey language is full of distancing from Meredith. And at no point EVER HAVE I HEARD A RELIABLE DENIAL OF INVOLVEMENT She was asked if she would be prepared to do a lie detector test. On tv with the USA watching she said very nervously yes she would. As far as I am aware it has never happened. She said yes and her demeanor screamed NO!!!!!!!!
@@timffoster6301 what i think about alot the crime scene was very bloody a brutal murder and showed signs meredith fought bk..amanda the nxt day was with police surely she would have had some scrab or bruise..i acctually dont know if Amanda acctually killed her but from what iv watched and read about this case something isn right with that girl her body language is weird how she answers questions is odd her duping delight every 5 minutes maybe thats just who she is..i find her awkward to watch..i just dont like her..
@@gerardhale199 AK did have a mark on her neck. She said it was a love bite but it was vertical, not rounded like a love bite. She also said in her statement that she showered with RS and he cleaned her ear. Later she said because it had been recently pierced. I can’t post images here but google it, Mark on neck,
I too am not sure what happened, but I don't think her story in this interview seems incoherent. If you live in a small, quiet town of northern Italy, murder would perhaps not be the first explanation you jump to, when finding your house in the state she describes here. Having shared a house with fellow students in a small town myself, I indeed - on quite a few occasions - arrived to find our house in various 'stages of weirdness' when coming home in the morning hours after staying the night elsewhere. Her meticulous details are also not surprising to me. She has been through these event numerous times, through several interrogations, a couple of court trials - one lasting almost a year - as well as going through these events countless times in her mind while in jail, and later, while writing a book about it. For her to be somewhat detached from the tragic events and the emotional drama when recounting these details doesn't automatically indicate her being guilty of the crime. Having said that, there are of course several events that has cast suspicion of her somehow being involved in this crime, but there are also facts about this case that speaks strongly for her innocence. One perspective that is not discussed very often is the fact that Rudy Guede who opted for a fast-track trial never once in those court hearings implemented Knox or Sollecito as co-complicit. Why didn't he do that? He had at the time of the trial everything to gain from nailing two more persons to this crime - two persons the police was already believing were guilty. Instead he told a strange story about a - to him - unknown man who just happened to stumble into the house, rape and murder Meredith, while Guede was in the bathroom pooping. Even if Guede was alone with Meredith at the time of her murder, there is still a lot about this crime that is not yet proved or explained, but unlike most of the commentators here, I don't think it is at all that obvious that Knox and Sollecito were his partners in crime. The police were convinced Knox was involved from day one and charged her and Sollecito as suspects even before Guede's fingerprint was found at the murder scene. If Knox and Sollecito was involved, nobody - to my mind, anyway - has yet presented a coherent and convincing theory of 'how' and 'why' they participated in the murder. If indeed the police got tied up in their own suspicions about Knox and Sollecito, and even went to such lengths as to make evidence fit with these theories, it wouldn't be the first time in history that police officers have done so. It also wouldn't be the first time innocent people have suffered from both suspicious behavior and suspicious circumstances. Whatever Knox and Sollecito did or didn't do, this case was high profile from day one and their images were plastered on front pages all over the world. It would definitely have been a giant loss of face for the Italian police if they'd had to back track their overconfidence in the guilt of the two and announce their innocence after this case had snowballed into an avalanche in the media. Truth is, from the very beginning everybody loved the idea of this being a kinky sex-murder involving Foxy Knoxy and Harry Potter.
I can't figure out if she's guilty or not and I couldn't care less about who she slept with and all that nonsense. But she seems off. Sometimes when she talks and everytime she cries, something's off. It seems staged.
+muni It isn't staged, I think she looks uncomfortable giving interviews but this is the hand she was dealt, she's decided to help other exonerees and i think she looks more comfortable in,their company, they certainly have something in common
Amanda Knox wasn't exonerated - she was acquitted. There's a significant difference. Unfortunately, you lack the intellectual capacity to understand the difference.
All what she told about what she did that morning: that she went back home at about 10.30-11 am to take a shower is INVENTED, she LIED, she wasn't at the cottage at that time and she took no shower: - she told that when she just came out of the house (after having taken the shower and dried her hair), she called her roommate Filomena....although in this interview she "changed version" to make her story fit with what emerged from the investigation, saying that she called her from Raffaele's apartment: Filomena told that Amanda, during that call, told her that "she went back home and that she had found strange things at the house, blood in the bathroom...and that she took a shower" and she told her also that *"she was going to GO BACK to Raffaele's to bring him over* so that he could see "the strange things" too, but the cell-tower records showed that when she did that call (at 12.08 pm) she was NOT at home, in Via delle Pergola, nor in her way to go from there to Raffaele's apartment, but INSIDE Raffaele's apartment....why did she LIE to Filomena about where she really was? - then Filomena (who got worried) tried to call her back 4 minutes later, at 12.12 pm and again at 12.20 pm but Amanda didn't answer the phone: and the cell-towers records showed that she was (still) inside Raffaele's apartment. - Filomena called her again at 12.34 pm and this time Amanda answered the phone and informed Filomena about the presumed (fake) break-in: the cell towers records showed that at that time she was (really) at the cottage in Via della Pergola THEN: apart from the fact that she lied to Filomena telling her that she was in Via della Pergola, at their home (at 12.08 pm) when she was instead at Raffaele's, if she was at Raffaele's at 12.20 pm and calculating that to go from Raffaele's flat to Amanda's home there's about a 10 min. walk, it means that she and Raffaele arrived to the cottage at abt. 12.30 pm. The 2 officers of the Postal police arrived there (unexpected) at 12.35 pm, then they could not have done all what they told having done (when they would have been at the cottage alone before the police showed up) *in ONLY 5 MINUTES or less:* - Amanda and Raffaele told they got into the house, opened Filomena's bedroom door discovering the broken window, that they checked all the apartment, Amanda knocked on Meredith's door and started to panic because she didn't answer, she panicked so much that she went out on the balcony from where she tried to see inside Meredith's room through the window climbing on the railing, Raffaele stopped her because it was "too dangerous", she ran outside and down to her neighbors and she banged on their door (although she knew they all 4 left Perugia the day before and were in another region of Italy at their families homes and were not supposed to be back until sunday), then she went back inside and decided with Raffaele to try to break down Meredith's door two times... failing. At that point they went outside in the garden, sit down near the fence from where they saw a policeman walking towards them. IT'S CLEAR AS DAY that they could not have done all this in just 5 minutes.....both stories (the "shower story" and the "panic story") are COMPLETE FABRICATIONS: they or she alone went back to the cottage during the night or during the early hours of the morning to clean and to rearrange the "scene" and afterwards they stayed at Raffaele's place from where Amanda called Filomena the first time (at 12.08 pm). Between 12.20 pm and 12.34 pm they left Raffaele's apartment and were on their way to the cottage. Of course Amanda didn't answer Filomena's calls on purpose (she had to pretend being at the cottage "panicking"...at that time) and she finally answered only at 12.34 pm, when they were REALLY there.
Correct, this is most likely as you said. Because there is no hard proof, not much can be done about it, but as you said, the sheer amount of scenarios that don't make sense points to her involvement somehow. I do not believe she is killer (her DNA would be all over the place if she had done it), but she definitely was involved somhow. Most likely, she did visit the place after the crime , cleaned up, staged the break in etc..and only later were police involved. Someone had to have been there before police arrived, and rudys footprints show him running for the exit straight from merediths room ( not cleaning up etc ). These were bloody footprints, so very difficult to take off shoes clean up in socks then go back to metediths room, exactly same place, put back on shoes and show trajectory as running out the door. ..Yet we know for a fact there was clean up, etc ...Nope, someone else had some hand in this. Could have been Rudy's friends, but unlikely- no other suspects are present. Investigations would obviously have looked at his known friends or acquaintances- none were suspected. Who does that leave? Knox and her boyfriend. Can be no other. There is more to this story than she is saying..not over yet.
@@kq1777plus in the whole villa the only fingerprint(s) belonging to Knox was one found in the kitchen. Why were there no fingerprints of Amanda in her own home? Clean up. 🧼🧼🧼
There were MANY reasons why the investigators thought the room was staged. 1.) there are no signs of any foot-steps outside the building even though it was a wet day. The stone found inside the room does not end in the linear trajectory where it should have ended, it was found at the OPPOSITE side underneath a chair. The stone was too large to have entered the smaller glass panels and too heavy to be thrown from below. The front door was opened so why risk life and limb getting through a window?
How can she sleep at night after being accused of a horrific crime? If she were innocent, the accusation alone would be enough to stop her from smiling and laughing right? She truly is an ice maiden in my opinion.
She seems so unattatched to reality, when she's talking. No emmotions at all. She even laughs inapprotiately when talking about very serious issues. I think, she's involved somehow.
Khaleesi L I just wanted to say the same. That’s what trauma does to you. In psychology it is called derealization/depersonalization and it happens to people with trauma, suffering, anxiety and so on. I have it and I didn’t kill anyone. Those who haven’t experienced anything difficult are the most judgmental people what can you do.
@@nayamun4378 yes that is correct but does it make you nod yes when you say no? No it does not. Her first statement given to police is the correct one. She got away with it.
jimjam 3267 I don’t know maybe it does when your nervous system is so weakened and you are in front of cameras and people who want to prove you wrong. When you feel so many people are against you. I know that once a stranger asked me for directions, out of nervousness, I told him to turn right instead of left and I didn’t want to lie. I was just nervous. I will admit that it’s weird that she didn’t call medical emergency. If I saw what she described I would immediately assume that my roommate probably had a medical emergency and that time is important in such a situation. I would probably think my roommate fainted from a heavy period and I wouldn’t waste time and call the paramedics. But maybe she was just a very ignorant person. Or in that fear she picked the flight response. Or maybe she’s real life version of the Basic Instinct movie. Only God knows.
So, the front door is opened, there is no one else in the house, she goes to both toilets avoiding the rooms, there is blood in one and feces in the other but she shrugged it off as menstrual issues and has a shower?? Why did she open Filomena's room first, her being the only one she had contacted, finds the broken window, moves to Laura's room knowing she is in a business trip in Rome and leaves Meredith's room for last and knocks gently?? She only started putting things together in her mind when she heard blood and foot but thought about a dismembered foot in the room?? She didn't know if she should be worried or not? She only realized the magnitude of it when they asked her for the missing knife??
Lorena parli Italiano ? I mean, she said a lot of gigantic bullshit and bollocks - no one beleive her, just some stupid idiot like her - there was blood everywere the small bathroom, everywere and " she took a shower " - hahaha give me a fuc-king break -
Guilty or not, once you start pointing the finger elsewhere no one's ever going to believe you again. It doesn't help of course that she has such a dislikable persona.
Nonsense. Amanda was pressured by police into making those statements. She was 20 years old, barely spoke any Italian, had no reason to blame Lumumba (she knew he was at work that evening), had no lawyer, no family close to her, had about 17 different investigators shouting at her for hours... I'd like to see you in those conditions. I could go on, but your statements are blatantly absurd.
@@adee7546 Where you get that BS info from, that Seattle PR Company ? An interpreter, Anna Domino, was present throughout the interview and Knox testified in court that she was given food and drink. Her lawyer Luciano Ghirga rejected the claims that she was ever hit or ever shouted at by any of the interrogators, the Interview lasted no more then two hours. Knox lied. First she denied she was there at the crime scene in question, she said she spent the entire time with her boyfriend at his house, both slept soundly until 10:30 am the following morning. Later, she changed her story and admitted she was there at the crime scene but it was her boss Patrick Lumumba who did the killing. Her statements she made in the presence of an interpreter and her Lawyer were all recorded and are held in the police files along with transcript of court proceedings. These details were reviewed by a Harvard professor who agreed with the police findings and the two guilty verdicts. According to professor “there are thousands of Americans in jail today on the basis of far less evidence than there is against Amanda Knox." Stop making up and posting wild allegations, Check out your facts before you post more nonsense
@@jamessmythe1891 Okay, let’s annihilate all your arguments, one by one, since it’s actually quite easy. Let’s start with the interrogation: Amanda Knox was interrogated repeatedly in the days after the murder and always maintained the same story. Until the very last day, when she collapsed. The "confessions" were audio and video recorded. (Mignini bragged about this endlessly). The recordings could have proven Amanda’s point about the pressures suffered, the lies, the beatings, etc. Guess what? BOTH AUDIO AND VIDEO recordings disappeared. Nothing suspicious at all about that. Also, THREE HARD DRIVES that could have proven A and R's case were also DESTROYED BY POLICE. THREE. HARD. DRIVES. OOPS. Nothing to see here, folks. Nothing to see. As far as Amanda's "confession," the European Court condemned Italy for violating A's rights in not providing her with a lawyer, (which is required BY LAW in Italy). They also explicitly defined the interpreter’s work as “incompetent.” The interpreter’s name, by the way, is Anna Donnino, and she was ONE of the various interpreters used. Once she finished, early the next morning, she testified that she waited until 8 AM, when another interpreter (Anna Colantone, though I read her name spelled in different ways) would take over. So that takes care of that. (1/...)
@@jamessmythe1891 Part Two: Furthermore, Amanda was interviewed: 1. A few days after the murder. A had not slept decently in days, as is perfectly understandable 2. Her friend M had died. Amanda was distraught. 3. She and R had stopped by the station. She wasn't supposed to be interviewed, but was. She was exhausted from the day and from recent events (I'm sure you're fresh as a rose around midnight....) 4. The interview was carried out in a language she barely spoke. 5. The interpreter, by her own admission, arrived at 12:30 AM. By her own admission, she does not know what happened during the previous interrogation, nor does she know how anyone behaved. Also, the interpreter herself made statements that should have disqualified her (she said her role was to "get the witness to confess." Nothing suspicious about this at all. 6. Amanda knew that PL had a solid alibi. He was at work in his restaurant. She knew this because he had told her not to come to work. 7. There were around 17 detectives interrogating her, back and forth, back and forth...again, standard procedure. 8. The cops misinterpreted the message "See you later" to mean "I, Amanda, and you Patrick will meet later tonight." This is diabolically insane. Almost comical. That's why they focused on Patrick, thinking he had participated in the murder. When they were finally proven wrong, they switched PL with Guede.. the real culprit... without admitting their guilt... 9. After Amanda’s statements, the police went to arrest Lumumba. Nobody bothered to check if he had an alibi. Nobody bothered to corroborate Amanda’s statements, to see if they had been made under duress. They simply went to Lumumba’s house and arrested him... only to be later embarrassed by the fact that he had an alibi. (2/...)
@@jamessmythe1891 Part III Here is Colantone’s own testimony about Amanda’s condition: At a certain moment, I don’t know if I had gone away for a moment to speak with someone from the Flying Squad or something, in passing that room, returning to this room where I remember [Amanda] was alone, it was only her, and I was practically…I understood that this girl was truly fatigued, exhausted, she was tired because I practically found her, she was draped on a seat with her head reclined toward the wall, white in the face, with her eyes closed, white, I was very struck by her pallor and I understood that this girl was in bad shape. This is only the tip of the iceberg. I might send you an excellent analysis of the conditions in which Amanda “confessed.” Anyway, nothing ridiculous about this at all. Nothing disgusting, absurd and absolutely embarrassing about this whole thing. Let me know if there is anything else you want me to clarify. (Incidentally, I’m glad you don’t mention that Harvard professor’s name. And I know why. That “professor” is Alan Dershowitz, and he’s a buffoon. Anyone with half a brain would know this, so we can dismiss anything he says without wasting any more time. Note: that professor does NOT speak Italian and at the time had not read anything on the case, either original or professionally translated). A.
Aside from when she was harassed for hours by police until the wee hours of the night, Amanda always told ONE story. The truth. Also, NO DNA belonging to Amanda or Raffaele was found in Meredith's room. Plenty of DNA belonging to Rudy was found there. Think about it....
" One thing I could never understand is that Amanda has always said she was given a rough time by the police. But I was named as the one who killed Meredith, the black third world African, AND THEY NEVER GAVE ME ANY PROBLEMS. I DO FIND THAT THAT VERY STRANGE and I also find it amazing that she has never actually said sorry to me " Patrick Lumumba former boss of A. Knox at Le Chic Bar.
Lumumba changed his story several times, at first saying he was abused and stripped naked, then changing his tune after the police "talked" to him. Yes, he was an innocent man, but he milked his "victimhood" in exchange for money and TV appearances. He lied several times about Amanda and "spiced up" his recollections to make himself more relevant and more pitied. I'm sorry about his time in jail, but he has milked it in unethical ways, and basically did the same to Amanda later.
@@adee7546 Where did you obtain this information? Please provide your source, as I've never witnessed or read about any of the abovementioned changes in Lumumba's testimony or statements, nor accusations that he was abused by LE. I did hear him make various statements, similar to that of numerous other witnesses who were questioned, saying that none of them were mistreated by police, and found it odd that Amanda was the only person to claim such mistreatment.
@@adee7546 By all accounts, it has only ever been Amanda who's "milked" AND manipulated the public and media for all she can, incessantly claiming to be a victim of everyone and everything, granting countless media appearances for over a decade now on her "campaign of innocence", where she rakes in upwards of $5000 - $10,000 per appearance; working with huge corporations to create content which explicitly paints her in the best light possible, such as the Netflix documentary aptly named "Amanda Knox", and her $4 million book deal, to name a few. To this day Knox has never directly apologized to Patrik, nor paid him the settlement awarded for slandering his name and upending his life, per her calunnia conviction of which she is a felon for life as a result of. As far as unethical behavior, Amanda has set the bar quite high in that category. It is apparent that she has no concern for attributes like respect, decency, honesty, taking accountability, etc. She is a textbook narcissist who has created a platform and monetarily successful brand solely off of the brutal slaying of Ms. Kercher. Her cruel and malicious nature, lending to her myriad of lies and harassment of the Kercher family, have been relentless, systematic, and plainly obvious over the years. She pathologically enjoys any and all attention, as well as the ability to continue publicly victimizing Meredith and her family.
@@adee7546 More lies and disinformation from payroll A Dee! Knox falsely accused Lumumba and he could have been jailed for life as a result. And now payroll A Dee slanders this innocent man who lost his business as a rest. A Dee is lower than a snake's belly...
It’s like she’s telling a fun memory with all the stupid laughter. By laughing she wants to make it nonchalant so the interviewer won’t think she did it.
They, ARE WOMEN, WE BLEED, I had a terrible period, and yes I bled over the bathroom!!! Especially, when you're young, it happens, so don't think, she's being weird, because periods are very gross sometime, and so that is why she did not react!!!!!!!!!!!
Not being snarky but my son ( almost 12)thinks spit is more gross than poop. God only knows why lol. Everyone's different. Not saying she's guilty or innocent.
According to an interview with The Observer (via The Guardian) following that acquittal, Lumumba believes Knox was found not guilty because of status and appearances. “Amanda is free because she is American, but Americans are human like everybody," Lumumba said. As of last year, the 43-year-old Lumumba was living in Krakow, Poland with his wife. He has alleged that Knox's accusation and his involvement in this case lost him his business and made it impossible to find another job in Perugia. “What Amanda did I don’t know, but I think she knows why Meredith died," Lumumba told The Guardian.
She says: "When i first got there, everything looked completely normal". ie, it was normal for the electric gate to be open, it was normal for there to be bloody footprints on the floor. Do you think it's possible she could be lying?
It looked normal because: 1. she was there either during the crime or after it ( before the police arrived) and she is not telling the full story Or, 2. You could argue that this wasn't the case above and she really did think it was normal, and that is sheer stupidity, but stupidity is not a crime.
This woman is a liar and she's got away with it. What kind of girl gets naked and into a shower when her apartment door is wide open with blood on the sink and THEN run off to her partners house because she finds a poop in the toilet!?? If I walked into my house and the door was already open I would either A) check on my roommate first or B) phone the cops straight away coz I was scared of potential burglars !!! Not only that...she has verbal dioreah... giving us FARRR to much uneccessary information, waffling, to try and throw us off course, it's almost like she's trying too hard to justify herself. I believe she's a pyscopath and I think she was purely jelous of Meredith , I don't know what to think of her boyfriend but I think the main instigator of this murder is Her!!!
She is innocent. It wasnt crazy blood but few drops and since there were several people using the bath room it could ve been bleeding nose that some people have. I wouldnt have thought much of it either excepr for my room mate. I had probably asked her why left the door open. Thats it. She was only 20 years old. Very young and naive
@@creativeminds5405 special when the Door was open and a used Toilet and blood l go and take a shower . This girl and her friend are big liars .l would look after the other girl soon . She is so clever and makes a lot of money with the books interviews and Netflix. She only has good lawer s .
@@dagmarzoepke6960 Are you serious? You live in a house with many other people. Used toilets are normal, blood drops are normal especially when you have girls in there and an open door happens all the time. She was very young back then too. I dont think you would think oh there are few blood drops someone has been killed...
@@mariusa.5863 As a law student all I can blame her for is stupidity, which can be explained a little by her Italian really being beginners level back then, and Raffaele being unable to speak proper English up to today. The investigation started malicious and became coercive, the press was vicious and irresponsible (so-called journalist telling himself he didn't fact check, that's on Netflix) and the prosecutor was one flew over the cuckoo's nest insane and not even ashamed to share his completely absurd theories, that he applied in practice. 🙄 One: if the body of the victim was covered, it was extremely likely that a female person was involved. Like... Whaaat?!?!?! This case blows my mind to today and I pray for Knox to keep holding on... I could go on for ages (especially about Giuliano Mignini's misogynistic and oversexualized delusions), since I'm highly familiar with the case and entirely convinced Amanda Knox is innocent.
The eye witnesses showed concern and broke down Meredith's door, Filomena and her friends looked in the room and were horrified. The only one that did look who was away while they were breaking the door was Amanda. I wonder why? I think she knew what they would find.
She was so horrified when heard about the foot print police found in Meredith's room, but not a bit horrified for the found dead body of her friend!! So, was your evidence left behind that made you afraid of?
she doesn't look at the interviewer in the eye. and for recounting something supposely so horrific, she doesn't seem "bothered", like she's telling a story of how to make a dish or somehting. maybe i'm wrong, but there doesn't seem to be have passion/emotion in her voice....and even half laughing at times when recalling her ordeal. seriously? your friend was just murdered......i'm just pointing out observations. only god knows if she's guilty or not.
I think she is lying. The wrong emotions seem to come out at the wrong times. And all that about her being "confused" is just her trying to convince us that she was so freaked out she couldn't have committed this crime.
Silly question. By their own admission, investigators quickly dismissed the possibility of a break-in (saying that the window was too high for someone to climb) and focused on Amanda as being involved. It never occurred to them that someone else might have faked a break-in. It was their idea that Patrick Lumumba was involved in the murder, simply on the basis of that text message. After hours and hours of interrogation, they got their “confession.” See literature about “false confessions” and you’ll understand. False confessions. Experts say that the people most vulnerable to false confessions are: - Young people (younger than 23-24) - Unsophisticated, naïve people - Foreigners who don’t speak the language well - People who place their unconditional trust in the authorities (“If the police say so, it must be true.”) - People who are unassisted by counsel (often because they don’t think they need one) Amanda fits all these criteria. Amanda was 20 years old, a naive, dumb girl (her own flatmates called her "la scema" - the dumb one), in a foreign country, where her friend had been brutally murdered, she finds herself in a police station at 2 o’clock in the morning, with no interpreter (at first, an interpreter arrived around 11:30 PM), without a relative or a lawyer. The European Court later stated that these were violations of Amanda's human rights. In fact, Amanda's statement was NOT allowed in court. Here is the European Court’s decision: canestrinilex.com/risorse/interrogata-senza-avvocato-e-con-interprete-adeguato-italia-condannata-nel-caso-knox-c-edu-2412019/
Almost EVERY SINGLE THING you have stated is false. Amanda's DNA was NEVER found in Filomena's room. The DNA that was found on the knife did belong to Amanda, but the DNA that was said to belong to Meredith, in fact, DID NOT. Amanda did finger Lumumba, but only after hours and hours of interrogation, where the police kept shouting in her face, showing the text message where she said (in Italian): “See you later,” which investigators thought meant the two were going to meet later that night. By their own admission, investigators quickly dismissed the possibility of a break-in (saying that the window was too high for someone to climb) and focused on Amanda as being involved. It never occurred to them that someone else might have faked a break-in. It was their idea that Patrick Lumumba was involved in the murder, simply on the basis of that text message. After hours and hours of interrogation, they got their “confession.” See literature about “false confessions” and you’ll understand. False confessions. Experts say that the people most vulnerable to false confessions are: - Young people (younger than 23-24) - Unsophisticated, naïve people - Foreigners who don’t speak the language well - People who place their unconditional trust in the authorities (“If the police say so, it must be true.”) - People who are unassisted by counsel (often because they don’t think they need one) Amanda fits all these criteria. Amanda was 20 years old, a naive, dumb girl (her own flatmates called her "la scema" - the dumb one), in a foreign country, where her friend had been brutally murdered, she finds herself in a police station at 2 o’clock in the morning, with no interpreter (at first, an interpreter arrived around 11:30 PM), without a relative or a lawyer. The European Court later stated that these were violations of Amanda's human rights. In fact, Amanda's statement was NOT allowed in court. Here is the European Court’s decision: canestrinilex.com/risorse/interrogata-senza-avvocato-e-con-interprete-adeguato-italia-condannata-nel-caso-knox-c-edu-2412019/ As to the plausibility of climbing the outside wall into Filomena’s second-floor window, a test was conducted long after the trial: A young climber quickly dispelled the myth that “only Spiderman could have climbed that wall” (as the appeals court stated) by climbing that very same wall from the ground in about 2 seconds. The climber also stated that any young, fit man could do what he did, without having any particular climbing experience). You can see the video here: www.amandaknoxcase.net/rudy-guedes-break-in/ As to calling the Postal Police: The police were called because a cell phone was found and was being returned to Meredith. As to the phone calls, Raffaele first he called his sister, who was a carabiniere, then she told him to call 112, which he did. Twice (the line was disconnected during the first call). It was proven in court that Raffaele had called the police at EXACTLY the time he said. The confusion stemmed from a video of Raffaele with the Postal Police officer, showing a clock in a parking lot. This clock was later proven to be 10 minutes late, thus supporting Raffaele's testimony. If Raffaele and Amanda were involved and wanted to avoid detection, why show up to the house the next morning? Why call the police? Why did Amanda accuse Lumumba, a man she KNEW had an alibi, because he was at his café that night (she was supposed to work that night, but business was slow and Lumumba told her not to come). On the other hand, as per their own testimonies, investigators focused on Amanda, her “odd” behavior, her seeming absence of sadness or tears, and centered on her sexual life (they went so far as to lie that she was HIV positive in order to get her to write down all the men she had sex with). As if that had anything to do with the murder. Curiously, few sexual questions were asked of Rudy Guede and Raffaele Sollecito, and investigators refused to delve into their alleged sexual depravities. To prove the sexism and misogyny of the courts, when Amanda’s use of condoms and a vibrator was mentioned in court, the judges and jury gasped, as reported by author John Follain. For whatever depraved reason, prosecutor Mignini was obsessed with the idea of an orgy gone wrong (the theory of the motive for the murder changed over time, as if prosecutors threw all kinds of mud at the wall, hoping something would stick). He persisted on this theory even though NO DNA was found in Meredith’s room belonging to either Amanda or Raffaele. Meanwhile, plenty of blood and semen belonging to Rudy Guede was found in the same room, where the murder occurred. Further, Mignini (and the first court) insisted that Amanda/Raffaele must have known Guede even though no evidence was found supporting this, other than two perfunctory encounters. No one (except for one lunatic) ever stated that they saw the three together and their respective cell phones did NOT contain each other’s phone numbers, nor had they ever texted/called each other. Mignini is the same prosecutor who at the time was under investigation for abuse of office (he was later convicted and then acquitted), and should never have prosecuted the case. He was also the man behind the “Monster of Florence” fiasco, where his main suspect, Pietro Pacciani, was acquitted by a court just prior his death. In that case, as well, Mignini was obsessed with the idea of orgies, satanic rituals, purchases of sex organs, etc. Furthermore, once investigators focused on Amanda (which happened almost instantly), everything she did was interpreted against her: if she cried, she was being theatrical, trying to attract attention, if she was calm it meant she was a cold psychopath, if she tried to relax she was indifferent and narcissistic, if she hugged and kissed her boyfriend she was an unfeeling whore, etc. In court, Mignini asked the dumbest questions. Questions like: “Why did you cry when we took you to the cottage to see the knives?” Are you kidding me? Amanda should have said: “Is that a serious question? My friend was stabbed repeatedly, her throat slit, she was probably beaten and raped. You’re suspecting me of the crime. You take me to the house to look at a drawer full of knives and you ask me why I broke down and cried? Get the fuck out of my face! Get out! And find a prosecutor who is not a complete imbecile to ask me some questions. Lastly, four of Sollecito’s computers were tested, three out of four were destroyed by the police. How is it humanly possible to destroy a computer while trying to copy files? It’s obvious that the police are either: a) grossly incompetent, or, much more likely, b) deliberately destroyed three hard drives because they would have proven Sollecito innocent.
@Troy Thompson You obviously know nothing about the case. Even Mignini said that Lumumba was involved. Also, you're not a very deep thinker, are you? Why would Amanda finger Lumumba, knowing that he had a solid, perfect alibi? (He was at work that night). The police misinterpreted Amanda's message "See you later" (in Italian) to mean that she and Patrick were going to meet later that night. Seriously, man. Try reading some documents about the case, instead of sounding like a fool. I mean, if you don't even know the basic facts, what's the point?
@Troy Thompson Think about it. Why would the prosecutor enlist the help of 12 investigators to interrogate Amanda until the wee hours of the morning? Why would they call a press conference three days after the murder to say: “The case is closed” before they had even verified the evidence, and even before the forensic results had come in? Why would they arrest Lumumba in the middle of the night, before they even checked if he had an alibi, or if there was any evidence that linked to the murder? Do you think that, perhaps, it had something to do with Mignini (the prosecutor): 1. Having looked like an idiot in the ‘Monster of Florence’ case, where he pursued Pietro Pacciani as the serial killer, only to see Pacciani be acquitted shortly before Pacciani’s death? 2. Mignini being under investigation for abuse of office for wiretapping colleagues, journalists and other people related to the ‘Monster’ case, including two prominent journalists?
@Troy Thompson As I said, you don't know the facts of the case. Under appeal, two INDEPENDENT DNA experts destroyed the prosecution's case, highlighting over 50 errors that they made. Their evidence was so strong that people in court LAUGHED at the idea that Amanda and Raffaele were responsible. Italy's Supreme Court, after 8 years of hell, told the lower courts (I'm paraphrasing): 'Leave Amanda and Raffaele alone. They did NOT do this.' ("Il fatto non sussiste').
Amanda said when she saw the crap she knew none of her flat mates would leave it like that. To find your front door wide open, no one home, A substantial amount of blood in the bathroom.Then to calmly shower and not contact anyone for over an hour is unbelievable.
Well, if she had cleaned up the blood instead, that would have made her very suspicious, don't you think? Her behavior was perfectly consistent with an innocent person. And she did not leave calmly. She got scared once she heard noises.
Did they ever DNA test the feces to find out whose it was? Because I have a hunch it was dear old Amanda's...Her "F U" to Meredith who had complained about Amanda's bathroom habits (presumably not flushing when she should among other things)....Amanda is such a colossal LIAR! So creepy and cold. She's a total psychopath. Guilty AF.
If you watch the testimonies of Jodi Arias, who was sentenced to life for stabbing her boyfriend, you see striking similarities. Both try to remain very calm, speaking in a monotone, giving lots and lots of details about insignificant things. Jodi lies over and over again, until someone calls her on it. Amanda has a multitude of lies, starting from the day at the cottage and throughout the trial. She also was caught and questioned thoroughly on the lies.
I think the complete opposite. Arias goes off on insane tangents about basically anything but the murder, whereas Know almost exclusively describes what happened that day, in chronologial order. She explains her weird hesitant behavior, in my opinion fairly convincingly. Even more importantly, she never once changes her story, let alone make up some wild story of Bonnie and Clyde style murderers who let her live and made her swear not to tell... You are terribly wrong.
On the handwritten note of Knox that Sollecito presented to the court, Knox wrote: ' Raffaele was not there ' This tacitly implies that she was. How else would she know who was there or not ? So again, she puts herself at the scene of the crime, since Sollecito told the police that she had left his apartment at 9:30 and that she didn't return to his place until 1 A.M. So where was Knox in those intervening hours ? On that alibi Sollecito distances himself from Knox.
I have inserted nothing, you are ignoring facts like Amanda saying the door was always locked when nobody was home. You are ignoring eye witness evidence that the blood was substantial and worrying, You are ignoring the fact that Amanda said finding her front door wide open and no one home and blood in the bathroom she then calmly showered. This is what she said and it is improbable and cannot be true.
She way over does it with the details. On and on and on. Rehearsed for years. So many little details and little explanations. She's lying. Another thing: she makes sure to say Filomena's room was spotless. Then she says she had called her because her room was ransacked. Uh, hello? I used to think she was innocent.
There were TWO neighbours that heard the piercing scream. One of the witnesses Nara Capezzali said she heard around 10:30 a cry so harrowing that afterwards she had trouble getting back to sleep, a scream corroborated by Antonella Monacchia, who went to bed around 10:30 and after falling asleep was awaked by a piercing scream.
If I heard a scream like that I would call the police. It doesn’t change who is guilty but it is strange to me that 2 women heard the scream of a woman that was so unsettling they couldn’t sleep but didn’t call police.
Question: You've been there for 5 weeks only, sleeping in separated rooms in a house with people You've never met before, right? how do you know she usally didn't lock up her room door, and on top of it you know she only locked it a few times? Explain me this and then you can continue.
That's right. Burglars get in and out of a place as fast as they can with the stolen goods. This is why the police advice, is not to leave valuables that are easy to steal in full view, since they know burglars do not hang about long enough to be caught out in a burglary. Burglars never steal heavy things. Sollecito's call was suspicious to the emergency operator the minute he said that the room was thrashed but NO valuables were stolen. Sollecito became their 1st suspect.
Keep talking Amanda. I would like to know why, when Filomena asked you to call Meredith, to check up on her, the phone calls to both of her phones only lasted three seconds-was this because you knew she couldn't pick up? Yet in one of your emails, you stated that you tried to call her after your roommate told you to do so, and her phone 'rang and rang and rang'. Amanda Knox is two things, an actress and a murder!
Sure, she is a murderer, because she didn't let the phone ring long enough. Don't be ridiculous. Where did you even get that three seconds claim? And is that data even reliable?
Agreed. 1. Knox’s DNA was found on the handle of the murder weapon, knife which belonged to Sollecito. Kercher’s DNA was found on the blade. 2. Knox claimed that she was with him the whole time, sound asleep until 10 a.m. but Sollecito’s computer was being used at 5:30 a.m. and his phone was turned on at 6:02 a.m. 3. Knox lied, first she said she wasn’t at crime scene then changed her story , admitted she was there but accused her boss Patrick Lumumba of murdering Kercher. Patrick was found to be innocent. 4. According to police investigation, Raffaele Sollecito held Kercher down whilst Knox used knife to stab her. Under Italian law, both should have got life imprisonment for murder.
You know that smiling is one of the sign of someone who lies and is guilty? She is recalling that night, and exactly when she said: " I didnt think someone had been murdered", inconsciously and without even realizing, she is actually smiling. She is still showing her content of having done it. Its chilling.
@Jacky J Jones Said the person who knows nothing about psychiatric diseases, criminology, investigative techniques, or anything else, for that matter. I'm glad you can decide a person's guilt based on a micro-expression. People like you are scary.
@Jacky J Jones Right... let's throw away 10,000+ pages of evidence, including the Supreme Court's acquittal, and simply have you stare at people and tell us who is innocent and who is guilty. If you truly are who you say, I will seriously get chills down my spine.
She wasn't as was shown in court. I suggest you read Inspector Oreste Volturno's court testimony which reveals that the store owner, Marco Quintavalle, had told Volturno more than a year earlier that he had only seen Knox in his store WITH Sollecito before the murder, not after, and never said she bought bleach or anything else. Quintavalle was deemed unreliable.
How can she laugh as she's telling this tragic story? Also, she's telling the story in such a confusing way, probably to try to detract attention away from herself.
Yes. This is why i didnt understand what even happend after so many interviews and films. Then i watched rudy's interview. It was smth else. He was consistent all the time and really sad. Go watch.
Seems like she brought the mop that she used to mop up the bloody footprints that the lumidol picked up. I can honestly see now why Italy found them both guilty. What a shame on the overturning of the verdict.
Italian journalists accused the US embassy in Italy of interfering in Italys Judicial system, using their influence through Italian Government to order Italian judges to find her not guilty!
Well, I would not call it a shame because there is no smoking gun evidence of murder. She was tried for murder not accomplice to murder. If the prosecution had gone for accomplice, they probably would be successful with the supreme court.
@Jacky J Jones That would be true in an initial statement. But this interiew is years later, after others have questioned everything she says, so she's including explanations to all the things people have questioned her about.
She looks not innocent at all. I feel that she is very much lying and bad energy. Please talk about Merdith . She talks about Only excuse of the situation. Normally quilty people they do that. Only she is talking about herself. And when she mentioned Merdith's name, she looked very uncomfortable as guilty. Even knowing a person 2weeks, people can remember things such as a personality and life style and fashions etc. No one can trust her. She doesn't give any trustworthy.
She says thank goodness her boyfriend was there or else she wouldn’t know who to call but she had already called her mom? And phone reports say she called her mom intermittently throughout the whole situation that day?
I do not understand first why she laughs, and second I do not believe their friends didn't say that she was dead when they went to her bedroom. Her reaction is not normal at all in particular if they kill your flatmate and friend. I will be out of my mind finding out something like that! As she isn't, why was she trying to figure out more about the situation than panicking for the murder of her flatmate? Weird ! Weird ! Non believable at all
Well, Knox has been accused twice of murder. Her school friends used to call her Foxy-Knoxy I imagine because she always escaped from trouble like a fox. Then as a teen ager she appeared at a police station for hurling stones at people's moving car windows which could have resulted in serious injury, which Knox showed no concern and now she has graduated to murder.
We have all done stupid stuff as kids. Throwing rocks at cars is particularly stupid. Seeing as nobody was harmed and it was forever ago, you ARE reaching hard with this comment. This is why we'd rather have impartial judges decide stuff like this than quick-to-conclude gossips.
I do not know what happened so I am upset with myself for emensly disliking Amanda Knox but I do. Everytime I see or hear her I have this extreme disgust, I feel I should apologize but how do you apologize for an honest reaction to something.
Listening to this without watching enabled me to hear more clearly the "weird" places where she laughed. I so want to believe her story, yet her behavior reveals a more sinister side.
Only a dedicated Amanda follower would describe the blood stains in the bathroom which include a bloody footprint as minute. Filomena and her friends could not wait to see if Meredith was there and hurt or not there at all. The only one that made sure she was away when the door was broken was Amanda, she must have known what they would find.
I've never been able to make up my mind whether she's guilty or not but watching this, she definitely feels off. A startling lack of emotion, up until right at the end when she talks about when she realised they suspected her. She's relaying what feels like a very rehearsed version of events and includes so many details that it seems strange to me to even remember after what would be such a shocking and traumatic event. The little laughs make it seem like she's just telling a story of something strange/funny that happened with her and her friends once, not talking about the horrific murder of her friend. Also, of course the 'skinny woman with lank hair' (lovely description Amanda) seemed off with you, your friend has just been discovered brutally murdered and you're going up to her talking about a shit in the toilet. Why the obsession with that? She talks about that as if it was more disturbing than the actual murder of her friend. I'm not sure but something just doesn't seem right about her.
By the time this interview was given, she'd told the same story over and over and over again for years which may give you the impression it was 'rehearsed'. She remembers and relates the many details due to having to repeat them so many times starting the day the murder was discovered. Do you expect her to get all emotional and cry every time she's asked to repeat the details of that day? After all, she'd only known Meredith for 6 weeks years before and been through so much trauma herself. She's damned if she cries as being "crocodile tears" and damned if she doesn't as being not being "empathetic". For some people, she just can't win because they see what they want to see depending on their bias. Why shouldn't she point out to Monica Napoleoni the feces in the toilet? It's one of the things that disturbed her as being totally wrong in the house because she knew her roommates wouldn't leave it unflushed. When she looked the second time, it had sunk to the bottom and from her view looked like it had been flushed between the time she'd first seen it and when the police arrived. But by whom? I'd mention that to the police...and likely you would have, too. By the way, that same policewoman was later sentenced to over 3 years in prison for misconduct in another matter.
at 5:40 she tells such a HUGE lie. according to ALL the witnesses that were at the house that day amanda was very nonchalant about merediths locked door. she even told them that she even locks her door to take a shower. everybody remembers her saying that. filomena was immediately very concerned and wanted it opened. in her weird email home from november 4th amanda, for the first time mentions being worried about merediths door being locked. she lied to delay the discovery of the body. on top of that. she wasnt in the immediate vicinity when the door was finally opened, which doesnt make sense with her apparent worry. she wasnt worried because she knew what was behind that door. she even says it here. at 10:38 she says "and thats when THEY discovered merediths body" why they? why not "we"? because she knew that it was there and because she was not in front of merediths door.
I'm glad you weren't in the jury. There's nothing with Amanda's nonchalance. It was known that Meredith locked the door after she took a shower. What's odd about that? When the door was opened, Amanda was right there, just behind the guys who tore it down. Yes, THEY discovered Meredith's body. Not her, because she was behind. There is absolutely nothing odd about these statements. You're contradicting yourself. You yourself admit "she was not in front of Meredith's door." So there...
@@dustiny.334 Which one? The man who admitted he uses heroin all the time, including when he was on the stand? The old lady who, on the stand, admitted: "I don't know about times or days..."? Or the supermarket manager, whose story changed 3 times, from: "I didn't see Amanda," to "Yes, I'm sure it was Amanda, and she was buying bleach!" Which one, please?
Her body language clearly shows that she has double personality, I don't believe this woman at all, as I live in Italy I heard her story many times in the local television but I wasn't ever convinced with her made up story.
I'm German and I don't believe her either. Her whole expression reminds me of Elizabeth Haysom who was a compulsive liar and killer. The horrible things she describes and her body language simply don't match and her cold, blank eyes give me the creeps. Poor Meredith. To me, Amanda Knox is the murderer.
She doesn't mention that Raffaele called and hung up on the Italian "911" the first time he called. Also, the Postal Police that happened in first, as well as the other roommates said Amanda tried to get people to avoid opening Meredith's locked door...by telling them Meredith always locked her door.
adi sh That was a lie. She didn’t shower. One of the policeman testified that she smelled like cat piss. One of Meredith’s friends testified that Raffaele told her that Knox didn’t shower. So, what was Knox doing at the cottage for over an hr.? Filomena & the police testified that the laundry in the washer was damp.
yeah she seems like a sociopath and i cant believe after a bloody murder of her roommate she writes a freakin book! make that money of that poor girls death right ugh
I was wondering that. But it was said that she and Meredith didn’t get on because she Amanda was not clean so maybe she left it believing it was Meredith’s because the other girls were away so she could confront her about it.
That has always been a HUGE red flag for me. Anyone would have immediately flushed it, then bitched about it later. She knew she had struck gold when she saw that, which was not early the next day, as she claims. Guede's DNA was all over a room that had been obviously cleaned and wiped down, and I'm sure that would make a pretty good source of DNA. Why would Amanda's reading light be on the floor beside Meredith's body, with blood soaked towels and smeared surfaces of wiped down blood? I don't think we'll ever know what actually transpired, but I do believe Amanda maliciously attacked Meredith that night, and somehow was able to enlist the help of another party to clean and stage the scene afterwards. I believe Amanda acted alone in the actual murder, based on my research of the evidence and her psychopathology. Her timeline and alibi have not and cannot be verified. Period. It's evident that Rafaello being her alibi was sketchy, as he flipped within just a couple hours of questioning, stating that she wasn't with him all night, and in fact didn't know where she was during the time Meredith was murdered. Anyone who believes she is innocent is naive, in denial, or incapable of piecing simple factual evidence together.
I cant believe that any normal person would not be alarmed by finding their door open and blood in the bathroom. Why would she shower without knowing the reason why?
not saying that shes guilty or not......but as someone who studies abroad alot .and knows a lot of people who do ..STUDY ABROAD 101 ..like the first thing you know is the damn emergency number in the country you are going to ...the fact that shes pretending like she doesnt know that....is so odd
Interesting....she said in a previous interview that she didn't think anything about the speckles of blood. Now in this interview she thinks the speckles of blood were related to menstruation
She never denied seeing blood. If you have not seen pictures and videos of the bathroom it was a few isolated single drop of blood. A drop here and a drop there.
@@vj9055 You do know about Rudy Guede right? The petty burglar that left all the indisputable evidence - such as his bloody palm print under Meredith's naked body?
The thing is that Meredith's REAL friends testified in court that Meredith had had a fight with Knox where Meredith had accused Knox of stealing her money. So the money went missing BEFORE Meredith died. The Italian police also found in Knox's bank account that Knox had withdrawn large amounts of money, which they believe she used to buy drugs. Meredith used to call Knox Drugtard. There was animosity between the two specially when Patrick Lumumba fired Knox from her job for flirting with men.
Exactly. After all in the U.S. if you are black with the institutionalised racism that exists there, Knox thought it was the same in Italy but she was wrong. Her word was taken seriously when she accused Patrick but there was no evidence against him, and he had plenty of witnesses who came forward to vouch for him. Whereas Knox is not backed by anyone, on the contrary, the witnesses place her at a convenience store at a time when she claims to have been asleep at Sollecito's which he denies.
Philomena could not believe why Amanda when finding the front door wide open would not be worried and not contact her, as the door was always locked when nobody was home. Amanda's email is in response to none of her friends believing her story.
People sometimes forget that she LIED and LIED during the first interrogation. She was willing to destroy an innocent man's life and she DID. Patrick has spoken about what happened to his family after he was wrongly arrested due to AManda's total fabrications. Ultimately he lost his bar. He and his wife and baby had to leave Italy as they were completely financially destroyed due to the stigma of the case. They moved to his wife's native country. Thing is he said they were completely happy in Italy, doing well. Then a guilty woman points her finger at him and in one instant Patrick's whole life is ruined. Does she have remorse over what she did to an innocent man and his family? I doubt it. If she is fine with her part in a horrific murder, then ruining an innocent man's life probably isn't a big deal.
Total nonsense, she never accused him, the police are the ones that did that, she was animate at the station that she did not believe the events the police put down in Italian and forced her to sign it.
@@grzlbrThink again. According to court proceedings first Knox said she was with her boyfriend sound asleep until 10.30am. Later she changed her story and admitted she was present at the crime scene and blamed Patrick the bar owner for the murder, he was found innocent. According to police evidence, Knox used the knife on her whilst her boyfriend Sollecito held her down, third person Rudy Guede was there watching and listening. Rudy knew who killed her but refused to name the person, got jailed for withholding the evidence.
@@jamessmythe1891 She never changed her story. she was coerced and threatened to sign a document in Italian , that was illegal. She clearly said in her own hand the document was bogus. The knife was proven to be a fraud.
Just wrote this to the lunatic above you. Dear God! She was coerced. She said what the investigators wanted to hear based on a text she sent Lumumba, one the police decided to misunderstand and make a huge deal of. Remember that harmless text? Then she signed papers she couldn't even understand. Illegal btw. One in four, one in four (!!!) innocent people completely break under coercion. Go, go read the statistics! And while you are at it, watch "When they see us". Real case too. All black kids were 100% innocent but confessed to a rape they had absolutely nothing to do with. Amanda is white, female and sexually active (and crazy attractive, even more so in her 20s), and the prosecutor (Mignini) became sooo obsessed with her and he had these unbelievable misogynistic theories that I think even Ben Shapiro would get goosebumps from. He said out loud if the body of the victim was covered, that was extremely likely something done by a female. Like... Whaaat? Stop watching pseudo-science videos and try to stick to physical evidence and motive. There's no way she could have cleaned her DNA and left Rudy Guede's aaall over the crime scene (inside the victim included). Btw, he (Rudy Guede) lied through the trial several times too and was the only one with a criminal record. But he played the race card pretty damned nicely. Like in “When they see us”, Amanda’s rights were violated over and over and over again in Italy. They even took her blood and told her she was HIV positive as an excuse to know about her ONE digit "long" list of previous sex partners (that's the level of Mignini's obsession with the young woman). Then they leaked that piece of (freaking irrelevant!!!) info to the press and right afterwards told her she was not positive, that it was a mistake. Their bad. Nice, aye? She's actually a freaking hero to not have given up and taken her own life, or something. And so is her amazing family and extremely loyal friends. I could actually bring myself to shrug at the ignorant Italian mob on the streets celebrating the wrong conviction of an innocent American citizen, but when I see Americans doing it too...
About Amanda Knox' lies. A first important point is that Amanda Knox did not just "lie during an interrogation". She did indeed spin a story falsely incriminating Patrick Lumumba, but she didn't do that during an interrogation: her false accusation was a protracted and repeated behaviour. It went on long after the interrogation. Indeed Knox went on spinning false stories - not just accusing Lumumba but also threatening Sollecito - that this is protracted behaviour is a first important point to bear in mind, yet still not the main point. - By the way I also note that her written memoriales are not the work of a person who is weak and naive to the point of having lost mental control, no longer able to concoct and organize a tortuous manipulation. Her memoriale is a sophisticated and highly controlled text, it is the manifest attempt by a person still in full rational control; anyway, any theory of Amanda being weak and naive and psychologically coerced should be backed with evidence. It should be proven, you cannot just postulate or guess that a person lies because is psychologically weak, with no evidence. And yet as I said this is still not the main point. A rather more significant point is Knox's actual position in the trial. her actual claims. The fact that Knox, at the preliminary hearing and trial, did NOT claim that she had lied, under pressure. That was not her position at the trial at all. On the contrary, she claimed that she had not lied ad all, and told that she suffers of a false memory syndrome. Her defence called a psychiatist from a Rome university to testify to support her claim. Your might have played the card about psychological weakness and coercion if Knox had brought a story of psychological coercion to the trial. She did not. she brought up a story of a false memory syndrome. So, the lack of consistency in her own explanations about her behaviour is a point more important than what she said during an interrogation. This is not, however, the only contradiction from Knox in her own defense. But a further and more relavant fact is that Amanda Knox did not lie only when falsely accusing Lumumba. She simply told a huge load of lies, above all before the interrogation. Her whole "story" about having showers in bloody bathroom and carrying mops through the town is a mass of lies. There is no piece of it consistent with any other or with any piece of reality. And then she also lied subsequently: after the trial, in her public declarations, and in her book. She's a systematic liar. One further element to note, is that we are not talking about just one liar; wre are talking about two. Not just Amanda Knox, but also Sollecito always lied. And it is now and an established judicial truth that "all his versions are lies". Sollecito told lies in his changing versions during interrogations, he told proven lies in his book (a Judge forced him and Gumbel to admit that his book was fictional), and he tells lies today. Before any other consideration, any person would ask themselves why two "innocent" people should tell lie all the time - that's not exactly what innocent people do. I won't get into further detalis anout all the dimensions and the steps of Knox lying about accusing Lumumba and about the rest (including her Dec. 17th interrogation, etc.) because it would get too long. About Rudy Guede: he did not act alone. Note: this is, by the way, a fact established definitively by the last verdict. But it is just a proven fact - it is evidence whoever wants to look into it - that this murder was phisically committed by more than one person. It is a fact that it would be impossible for a single perpetrator to commit this crime. Forget about Introna's theory, which is unrealistic and inconsistent with findings and was rightly dismissed by the judge. Meredith Kercher was killed by multiple perpetrators. While Knox is officially proven to have been certainly present at the murder. Knox, actually, did indeed take part physically to the killing action - she was not just an observer - but still, bear in mind that even a "passive" observer would bear responsability, because Meredith Kercher did not die on the spot. She died of blood loss after an agony of ten minutes or more. Not just the physical perpetrators, but even a hypothetical passive observer who happened not to call for help would be a person committing a serious life-threatening or deadly offense,
Agreed...it only baffles me how come that there was no physical evidence like DNA to link her to the crime scene then but Rudy's was? I mean that's the sole reason she got away after all
@@afifanasir4572 there is many physical evidence to link her to the crime: in the house, in romanelis room , just not in the murder room except her lamp being on the floor. Thats actually understandeble because the room was full with blood. Imagine buckets of merediths blood.
That's right. Whilst Rudy Guedes was at the disco, Amanda and Raffaele were cleaning up the cottage and they were unexpectedly interrupted when the Postal Police suddenly turned up unannounced. This is why they did not have enough time to clean the bathroom where the two murderers had left their DNA mixed with the victim's DNA in the bidet, where Knox cleaned her bloody feet and in the sink, the faucet, the cotton bud box and Filomena's room and the half foot print of Sollecito on the bath mat
In a house where nothing was stolen, not even the jewellery that was in full view, not even the computer either. Knox and Sollecito however, were charged of stealing the two telephones belonging to Meredith and Filomena and the fact that it was Sollecito who reported the "brake-in" where nothing was stolen when the Postal Police had already arrived had found Meredith, raised serious suspicious to the emergency responder. Sollecito was asked to come in to the police station, he was their 1st susp
No ... not really. She was protective over the poop in the bowl but not the blood. Why? She needed them to test the poop but wouldn't come out and directly say it. Why? She just discovered with her roomies that meredith is brutally murdered but she is more scared the poop was gone and more concerned with trying to redirect the police's attention to its existence. Why? It was a staged scene to look like a robbery gone bad. Why would the dude who helped kill her want to leave a trail of evidence against himself? Why did amanda look like she hadnt showered in days when she was kissing her dude on the scene of meredith's murder if she had only just taken a shower a couple of hours earlier? Her hair is not fresh, and clearly hadnt been washed on that day and likely not the day before either. And the police and others testified that she smelled like sex. Why did she and why is she lying about that? What was she really doing during that time? Her guy came out and admitted amanda was not with him all that night in question and she had asked him to lie. How have you reconciled this? She said either she is a psychopath in sheep's clothing or she is "you." Is she you? She is not me. Unless she is you, she only gave us one other option of who she is. Why don't you believe her?
You spend 4 years in jail as an innocent woman, then have to deal with "geniuses" like you constantly insulting her, then tell me if you're not a victim. The European Court condemned Italy for its violation of AK's human rights. Try reading something...
O.J. got away with murder and so did Knox and Sollecito. It doesn't matter that Knox accused an innocent man for the murder. It doesn't matter that they didn't have alibies nor that pathologist said that three different knives inflicted three different kinds of wounds. It sends a message to the world that if you have money and influence you can get away with murder too. My heart goes out to the Kercher family who didn't get justice.
It was "weird" to you that her door was locked.....and an hour later you told the police that Meredith was used to lock the door even to go to the bathroom?!?!? Something doesn't stand up!
How did she know Meredith had her throat slit i.e. she admitted this to Meredith's friends & her flatmates when the police didn't even know the cause of death. Plus she admitted in the first trail no kitchen utensils had been taken too or from her house to her boyfriends, in order words, how did the victims (Meredith) & your DNA ned up on the exact same knife? She must have changed her story over 10 times about where she was on the night of the murder but her telephone & laptop records say otherwise. her blood along with the victim on taps, light switches, the bidet etc etc Plus the hard driver in hers & her boyfriend's laptop were removed from the actual laptop-bizarre. Eye witnesses saw her in the morning of 2nd Nov 2007 & the night before when she was supposed to be in bed. Honestly, it goes on & on & on & on & OJ Simpson style on & on....
How do you explain the three different kinds of wounds ? The THREE different kinds of knives that were used ? Or you think that Guedes was switching knives as he was attacking Meredith ?
I've always said that, she's an odd girl but that doesn't make her or her ex boyfriend guilty of murder. There wasn't one shred of reliable evidence saying they were ever in that room.
One of the many things that bugs me about her is that in all of her interviews, you will not find her saying one kind word about Meredith. By all accounts, Meredith was a wonderful, beautiful person. But all Amanda ever says about her is 'She was my friend', period. She never talks about how tragic it is that such a beautiful person was lost to the world - never. Guilty or not, there is something terrible about this person.
@jxrdynシ Still.... And the fact that she meant nothing to her is telling in itself. She was disposable to Amanda, an inconvenience.
I think she's a sociopath maybe I'm judging but she just "smells" of that
@@brianna094 Where do such horrible conclusions come from? She's being interviewed, and she's explaining the morning of discovery and all that happened. She was not required to fawn over Meredith, and in fact, it would have been out of place. But Amanda has repeatedly expressed the sadness of Meredith's death. You people grab one interview, don't find what you're looking for, and come up with this conclusion. Imagine if someone decided to interpret your every move in such a negative manner. Shameful. You don't know here nor do you have any idea what she felt for Meredith. No wonder this world is in such horrible shape... so much meanness, nastiness, and hatred. Really sad.
Amanda's said she returned home found the front door wide open, no one home, blood in the bathroom, calmly showers, steps out of the shower finds more blood and a strangers shit in the toilet. she does not try to contact anyone for over an hour.Her story is so improbable it cannot be true.
@mistertruth1947 Perhaps you're not aware of the fact that the front door latch was broken and if you didn't set the deadbolt the door could open. That's why she wasn't too concerned, she assumed someone came home and had to step out for a minute and didn't lock the door. No big deal. The amount of visible blood was minimal and heavily diluted. Again, I've seen worse from paper cuts and she simply never considered something worse had happened. She has said that after she found the feces, that was the final straw and she began to be concerned. It's easy in hindsight to think these things should have instantly made her feel like something serious had happened, but she wasn't thinking that way and as she says, her first instinct was she might be over-reacting.
Interestingly, you find this account "so improbably it cannot be true" yet you apparently have no problem believing two people, never in trouble, no history of anger or violence, suddenly teamed up with someone they didn't even know to murder her housemate and friend, and in the process they left no forensic trace of themselves in the bloody murder room. I find this infinitely more difficult to believe.
Knox WROTE it in TWO statements that Patrick Lumumba killed Meredith and she signed these two statements. In one of them she wrote: " I confusedly remember Patrick killing Meredith ' She didn't casually mentioned it, she WROTE it in ENGLISH and signed it too. She even asks the cops in her statement if they have found any evidence against Patrick ? I mean, how callous she can be ! Patrick was totally unconnected to this crime but she accused him because she fired her.
According to an interview with The Observer (via The Guardian) following that acquittal, Lumumba believes Knox was found not guilty because of status and appearances. “Amanda is free because she is American, but Americans are human like everybody," Lumumba said. As of last year, the 43-year-old Lumumba was living in Krakow, Poland with his wife. He has alleged that Knox's accusation and his involvement in this case lost him his business and made it impossible to find another job in Perugia. “What Amanda did I don’t know, but I think she knows why Meredith died," Lumumba told The Guardian.
@@bobbyfuller3118 foxy Knox might be innocent or not? One thing I don't like about her is hows she's cashing in on this and making it all about her. No shame and laughing in her interviews.
He did not fire her. The police brought him up and she was looking for a way out so she pinned it on him. But under immense psychological pressure, she just wanted this nightmare to end. Rudy committed this all by himself, he was a known burglar, notorious liar, and fled by train afterwards, what more proof do you need?
She is a scoundrel.
@@bobbyfuller3118 As if Lumumba has any idea what happened. Interestingly, during the trial his testimony was nothing but glowing for Amanda. He had nothing negative to say about her other than she wasn't the best waitress. Lumumba's business was already failing when this happened. He was not able to compete with the larger, more established pubs.
As for her two interrogation statements - her rights were violated during the interrogation and both the ISC and ECHR have deemed the results inadmissible. She was coerced. She did write two letters after being arrested, and in those letters she made it clear she was pressured and lied to, and that she did not believe the statements to be true. In fact, in the second letter she makes it clear she is certain she never left Raffaele's and that she has no idea who killed Meredith. She recanted the interrogation statements. Even the ECHR came to this conclusion. The police knew Lumumba was at his pub because other people had already come forward, but the police still held him until a professor returned to Italy specifically to attest to his whereabouts, at which time they released him. That was two weeks in jail. Want to know when the police allowed him to open the pub again? Two MONTHS after the arrest. I suspect they didn't care much for the criticism he had for them. Coincidentally, just about the time that Lumumba changed his story about both the police and Amanda, THAT is when the police allowed him to open the pub.
"I should have realised that they already suspected me then."
The 'already' is exactly what a guilty person would say.. nothing she says could feel right to the senses.. but this last sentence (at the end of the video) really stood out to me for some reason. A far more natural and honest sentence would have been "I should have realised that they suspected me then."
18:30 to 18:45 she looks absolutely terrifying, her facial expression, everything. Who would laugh while recalling about blood on a bed when there’s police in your apartment and they’re talking about your roommate being murdered. Also “it was a body wrapped on a blanket” ?! Wtf. Freak
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She reminds me of Diane Downs
Totally guilty!!!!!!!! When a killer doesn't talk or want to help with finding the actually killer is guilty. You and your boyfriend are creepy as hell
Totally. She needs to be locked up
@suzysmith4254 The problem with your comment is that Amanda made no effort to leave, and deliberately spent tens of hours with the police hoping to help them identify the killer. She talked - probably too much - and she did everything the police asked of her, yet you claim she didn't want to help find the killer. I have no idea why you think that, but you are wrong.
I'm glad there is a complete interview available, without flashy TV style interruptions.
The fact that she immediately accused her boss who was a black man to have done it, who was quickly proven innocent, makes me feel like she did it , or else why would she accuse a random guy who has never been to her apartment before.
The simple response is that she didn't "immediately" accuse her boss. That was at the end of roughly 50 hours of interrogation, in the middle of the night, where the police gave her a false statement to sign, under physical coercion and threats that she wouldn't see her family again if she didn't sign.
@@kqatsi Simply not true. Her first interview lasted 2 hours and she volunteered her old boss as murderer who was therefore arrested.
Lumumba who was suspected of the crime and held for 3 weeks stated that despite bring a black African suspected of murder, he was never mistreated or abused.
The myth of police abuse against Knox is a lie to explain away why she smeared Patrick Lumumba.
@@Henry-vu5sg It's your position that she was interviewed a single time, for a total of two hours?
He sued her and got 40.000€
Katsi is right. She absolutely didn't "immediately" accuse him. She shouldn't have accused him, obviously, and you should, just as obviously, keep in mind that she did this while being badgered by police for hours on end and being treated like a murderous liar. If she is innocent, which I find highly likely, this doesn't seem as heinous as you make it out to be. She was desperate, simple as... I think, innocent or not, it is absolutely terrifying that she was ever even charged with this ridiculously miniscule amount of "evidence". The "evidence" was, essentially, she acted weird, leaving without calling 911 and calling all her roommates and her mom first. She was hesitant and didn't want to rush things. It was pretty stupid, which I'm sure she has long realized. We should learn from this, that you should rather call the police one too many than one too few times.
When someone speak of the murder of someone close to them, smiling and giggling is NOT normal. Amanda is talking about a murder not a romantic story. She enjoys the interview because attention is on her. She’s creepy. Italy’s justice system failed.
Her body language is completely off.
Really? What are you qualifications to judge?
True. Unbelievable how she laughs and talks about it as it was a great evening, a lot of fun. She's so sick.
@@marv5078 agree
I don't feel healthy and innocent energy at all.
"Some living person that you talked to yesterday" - not "my friend" or "my housemate". Charming. She really didn't like Meredith, did she.
Wow, just wow. There are countless times she called her "friend" and "housemate". That doesn't prove anything. Stop collecting pathetic "evidence" to back up your preconceived opinion.
What if she didn't? I dislike tons of people I meet regularly, yet I have never thought of murdering them. Geez!
@youejtube7692 Given they had just gone to the chocolate festival together, two days in a row, and a week later they went to a classical concert together, I'd say you conclusion of her not liking Meredith is without merit. Besides, the people who knew them both.. the ones they lived with or met daily, all said they had a good, normal friendship. My god, you people just conjure up whatever the hell makes you feel better, without any concern for the people you're doing harm to.
she repeats that Filomena was hysterical as if that was something very unusual.. like wtf Amanda YES of course she is hysterical, someone got brutally murdered in her+your appartement - why are you not, Amanda? Why are you not?
At the time, the situation was that there was a giant doodoo in the toilet and that Mercher's door was locked with no answer. Still pretty clear that she should call 911, not her roommate, but this behavior is the entire "case". She is passive, naive and too agreeable, yes. That explains this behavior, too. Convicting people for murder, even as a private opinion, should a LOT mor than this.
She was confused 😂
Amanda didn't actually see into Meredith's bedroom after the door was kicked open. Filomena saw all of the blood and someone's foot protruding from under the blanket. So of course Filomena freaked out while Amanda was left to wonder and imagine for herself what was actually in Meredith's bedroom.
Why is she laughing instead of being horrified for what just happened? That is also a big question
I don’t know if she did it or not. But, who tells all these meticulous details?? That’s something I noticed. The laughing and smiling. This was a brutal murder of her roommate. It’s like she’s talking about a day in the park. Good Lord!!
oscar Pistorius was the same new every single detail apart from the truth
Apart from that, hey language is full of distancing from Meredith. And at no point EVER HAVE I HEARD A RELIABLE DENIAL OF INVOLVEMENT
She was asked if she would be prepared to do a lie detector test. On tv with the USA watching she said very nervously yes she would. As far as I am aware it has never happened. She said yes and her demeanor screamed NO!!!!!!!!
@@timffoster6301 what i think about alot the crime scene was very bloody a brutal murder and showed signs meredith fought bk..amanda the nxt day was with police surely she would have had some scrab or bruise..i acctually dont know if Amanda acctually killed her but from what iv watched and read about this case something isn right with that girl her body language is weird how she answers questions is odd her duping delight every 5 minutes maybe thats just who she is..i find her awkward to watch..i just dont like her..
@@gerardhale199 AK did have a mark on her neck. She said it was a love bite but it was vertical, not rounded like a love bite. She also said in her statement that she showered with RS and he cleaned her ear. Later she said because it had been recently pierced. I can’t post images here but google it,
Mark on neck,
I too am not sure what happened, but I don't think her story in this interview seems incoherent. If you live in a small, quiet town of northern Italy, murder would perhaps not be the first explanation you jump to, when finding your house in the state she describes here. Having shared a house with fellow students in a small town myself, I indeed - on quite a few occasions - arrived to find our house in various 'stages of weirdness' when coming home in the morning hours after staying the night elsewhere.
Her meticulous details are also not surprising to me. She has been through these event numerous times, through several interrogations, a couple of court trials - one lasting almost a year - as well as going through these events countless times in her mind while in jail, and later, while writing a book about it. For her to be somewhat detached from the tragic events and the emotional drama when recounting these details doesn't automatically indicate her being guilty of the crime.
Having said that, there are of course several events that has cast suspicion of her somehow being involved in this crime, but there are also facts about this case that speaks strongly for her innocence.
One perspective that is not discussed very often is the fact that Rudy Guede who opted for a fast-track trial never once in those court hearings implemented Knox or Sollecito as co-complicit. Why didn't he do that? He had at the time of the trial everything to gain from nailing two more persons to this crime - two persons the police was already believing were guilty. Instead he told a strange story about a - to him - unknown man who just happened to stumble into the house, rape and murder Meredith, while Guede was in the bathroom pooping.
Even if Guede was alone with Meredith at the time of her murder, there is still a lot about this crime that is not yet proved or explained, but unlike most of the commentators here, I don't think it is at all that obvious that Knox and Sollecito were his partners in crime.
The police were convinced Knox was involved from day one and charged her and Sollecito as suspects even before Guede's fingerprint was found at the murder scene.
If Knox and Sollecito was involved, nobody - to my mind, anyway - has yet presented a coherent and convincing theory of 'how' and 'why' they participated in the murder.
If indeed the police got tied up in their own suspicions about Knox and Sollecito, and even went to such lengths as to make evidence fit with these theories, it wouldn't be the first time in history that police officers have done so. It also wouldn't be the first time innocent people have suffered from both suspicious behavior and suspicious circumstances.
Whatever Knox and Sollecito did or didn't do, this case was high profile from day one and their images were plastered on front pages all over the world. It would definitely have been a giant loss of face for the Italian police if they'd had to back track their overconfidence in the guilt of the two and announce their innocence after this case had snowballed into an avalanche in the media.
Truth is, from the very beginning everybody loved the idea of this being a kinky sex-murder involving Foxy Knoxy and Harry Potter.
I can't figure out if she's guilty or not and I couldn't care less about who she slept with and all that nonsense. But she seems off. Sometimes when she talks and everytime she cries, something's off. It seems staged.
It IS staged!
muni Seems like it yeah.
+muni It isn't staged, I think she looks uncomfortable giving interviews but this is the hand she was dealt, she's decided to help other exonerees and i think she looks more comfortable in,their company, they certainly have something in common
Amanda Knox wasn't exonerated - she was acquitted. There's a significant difference. Unfortunately, you lack the intellectual capacity to understand the difference.
+Harry Rag exonerate and acquit are synonym of each other so they are one and the same but you lack the intellectual capacity to know that.
All what she told about what she did that morning: that she went back home at about 10.30-11 am to take a shower is INVENTED, she LIED, she wasn't at the cottage at that time and she took no shower:
- she told that when she just came out of the house (after having taken the shower and dried her hair), she called her roommate Filomena....although in this interview she "changed version" to make her story fit with what emerged from the investigation, saying that she called her from Raffaele's apartment:
Filomena told that Amanda, during that call, told her that "she went back home and that she had found strange things at the house, blood in the bathroom...and that she took a shower" and she told her also that *"she was going to GO BACK to Raffaele's to bring him over* so that he could see "the strange things" too, but the cell-tower records showed that when she did that call (at 12.08 pm) she was NOT at home, in Via delle Pergola, nor in her way to go from there to Raffaele's apartment, but INSIDE Raffaele's apartment....why did she LIE to Filomena about where she really was?
- then Filomena (who got worried) tried to call her back 4 minutes later, at 12.12 pm and again at 12.20 pm but Amanda didn't answer the phone: and the cell-towers records showed that she was (still) inside Raffaele's apartment.
- Filomena called her again at 12.34 pm and this time Amanda answered the phone and informed Filomena about the presumed (fake) break-in: the cell towers records showed that at that time she was (really) at the cottage in Via della Pergola
THEN: apart from the fact that she lied to Filomena telling her that she was in Via della Pergola, at their home (at 12.08 pm) when she was instead at Raffaele's, if she was at Raffaele's at 12.20 pm and calculating that to go from Raffaele's flat to Amanda's home there's about a 10 min. walk, it means that she and Raffaele arrived to the cottage at abt. 12.30 pm.
The 2 officers of the Postal police arrived there (unexpected) at 12.35 pm, then they could not have done all what they told having done (when they would have been at the cottage alone before the police showed up) *in ONLY 5 MINUTES or less:*
- Amanda and Raffaele told they got into the house, opened Filomena's bedroom door discovering the broken window, that they checked all the apartment, Amanda knocked on Meredith's door and started to panic because she didn't answer, she panicked so much that she went out on the balcony from where she tried to see inside Meredith's room through the window climbing on the railing, Raffaele stopped her because it was "too dangerous", she ran outside and down to her neighbors and she banged on their door (although she knew they all 4 left Perugia the day before and were in another region of Italy at their families homes and were not supposed to be back until sunday), then she went back inside and decided with Raffaele to try to break down Meredith's door two times... failing. At that point they went outside in the garden, sit down near the fence from where they saw a policeman walking towards them.
IT'S CLEAR AS DAY that they could not have done all this in just 5 minutes.....both stories (the "shower story" and the "panic story") are COMPLETE FABRICATIONS:
they or she alone went back to the cottage during the night or during the early hours of the morning to clean and to rearrange the "scene" and afterwards they stayed at Raffaele's place from where Amanda called Filomena the first time (at 12.08 pm). Between 12.20 pm and 12.34 pm they left Raffaele's apartment and were on their way to the cottage. Of course Amanda didn't answer Filomena's calls on purpose (she had to pretend being at the cottage "panicking"...at that time) and she finally answered only at 12.34 pm, when they were REALLY there.
This evidence alone is enough to convict Knox and her wet paramour.
Correct, this is most likely as you said. Because there is no hard proof, not much can be done about it, but as you said, the sheer amount of scenarios that don't make sense points to her involvement somehow. I do not believe she is killer (her DNA would be all over the place if she had done it), but she definitely was involved somhow. Most likely, she did visit the place after the crime , cleaned up, staged the break in etc..and only later were police involved. Someone had to have been there before police arrived, and rudys footprints show him running for the exit straight from merediths room ( not cleaning up etc ). These were bloody footprints, so very difficult to take off shoes clean up in socks then go back to metediths room, exactly same place, put back on shoes and show trajectory as running out the door. ..Yet we know for a fact there was clean up, etc ...Nope, someone else had some hand in this. Could have been Rudy's friends, but unlikely- no other suspects are present. Investigations would obviously have looked at his known friends or acquaintances- none were suspected. Who does that leave? Knox and her boyfriend. Can be no other. There is more to this story than she is saying..not over yet.
@@kq1777plus in the whole villa the only fingerprint(s) belonging to Knox was one found in the kitchen. Why were there no fingerprints of Amanda in her own home? Clean up. 🧼🧼🧼
There were MANY reasons why the investigators thought the room was staged. 1.) there are no signs of any foot-steps outside the building even though it was a wet day. The stone found inside the room does not end in the linear trajectory where it should have ended, it was found at the OPPOSITE side underneath a chair. The stone was too large to have entered the smaller glass panels and too heavy to be thrown from below. The front door was opened so why risk life and limb getting through a window?
How can she sleep at night after being accused of a horrific crime? If she were innocent, the accusation alone would be enough to stop her from smiling and laughing right? She truly is an ice maiden in my opinion.
She seems so unattatched to reality, when she's talking. No emmotions at all. She even laughs inapprotiately when talking about very serious issues.
I think, she's involved somehow.
Guilty.
@Khaleesi L stress dont make you nod yes when you say no.
Khaleesi L I just wanted to say the same. That’s what trauma does to you. In psychology it is called derealization/depersonalization and it happens to people with trauma, suffering, anxiety and so on. I have it and I didn’t kill anyone. Those who haven’t experienced anything difficult are the most judgmental people what can you do.
@@nayamun4378 yes that is correct but does it make you nod yes when you say no? No it does not. Her first statement given to police is the correct one. She got away with it.
jimjam 3267 I don’t know maybe it does when your nervous system is so weakened and you are in front of cameras and people who want to prove you wrong. When you feel so many people are against you.
I know that once a stranger asked me for directions, out of nervousness, I told him to turn right instead of left and I didn’t want to lie. I was just nervous.
I will admit that it’s weird that she didn’t call medical emergency. If I saw what she described I would immediately assume that my roommate probably had a medical emergency and that time is important in such a situation. I would probably think my roommate fainted from a heavy period and I wouldn’t waste time and call the paramedics. But maybe she was just a very ignorant person. Or in that fear she picked the flight response. Or maybe she’s real life version of the Basic Instinct movie. Only God knows.
So, the front door is opened, there is no one else in the house, she goes to both toilets avoiding the rooms, there is blood in one and feces in the other but she shrugged it off as menstrual issues and has a shower??
Why did she open Filomena's room first, her being the only one she had contacted, finds the broken window, moves to Laura's room knowing she is in a business trip in Rome and leaves Meredith's room for last and knocks gently??
She only started putting things together in her mind when she heard blood and foot but thought about a dismembered foot in the room??
She didn't know if she should be worried or not? She only realized the magnitude of it when they asked her for the missing knife??
Lorena parli Italiano ?
I mean, she said a lot of gigantic bullshit and bollocks - no one beleive her, just some stupid idiot like her -
there was blood everywere the small bathroom, everywere and " she took a shower " - hahaha give me a fuc-king break -
Guilty or not, once you start pointing the finger elsewhere no one's ever going to believe you again.
It doesn't help of course that she has such a dislikable persona.
Nonsense. Amanda was pressured by police into making those statements. She was 20 years old, barely spoke any Italian, had no reason to blame Lumumba (she knew he was at work that evening), had no lawyer, no family close to her, had about 17 different investigators shouting at her for hours... I'd like to see you in those conditions. I could go on, but your statements are blatantly absurd.
@@adee7546 Where you get that BS info from, that Seattle PR Company ?
An interpreter, Anna Domino, was present throughout the interview and Knox testified in court that she was given food and drink. Her lawyer Luciano Ghirga rejected the claims that she was ever hit or ever shouted at by any of the interrogators, the Interview lasted no more then two hours.
Knox lied. First she denied she was there at the crime scene in question, she said she spent the entire time with her boyfriend at his house, both slept soundly until 10:30 am the following morning. Later, she changed her story and admitted she was there at the crime scene but it was her boss Patrick Lumumba who did the killing. Her statements she made in the presence of an interpreter and her Lawyer were all recorded and are held in the police files along with transcript of court proceedings. These details were reviewed by a Harvard professor who agreed with the police findings and the two guilty verdicts.
According to professor “there are thousands of Americans in jail today on the basis of far less evidence than there is against Amanda Knox."
Stop making up and posting wild allegations, Check out your facts before you post more nonsense
@@jamessmythe1891
Okay, let’s annihilate all your arguments, one by one, since it’s actually quite easy. Let’s start with the interrogation:
Amanda Knox was interrogated repeatedly in the days after the murder and always maintained the same story. Until the very last day, when she collapsed.
The "confessions" were audio and video recorded. (Mignini bragged about this endlessly). The recordings could have proven Amanda’s point about the pressures suffered, the lies, the beatings, etc.
Guess what? BOTH AUDIO AND VIDEO recordings disappeared. Nothing suspicious at all about that.
Also, THREE HARD DRIVES that could have proven A and R's case were also DESTROYED BY POLICE. THREE. HARD. DRIVES. OOPS. Nothing to see here, folks. Nothing to see.
As far as Amanda's "confession," the European Court condemned Italy for violating A's rights in not providing her with a lawyer, (which is required BY LAW in Italy). They also explicitly defined the interpreter’s work as “incompetent.” The interpreter’s name, by the way, is Anna Donnino, and she was ONE of the various interpreters used. Once she finished, early the next morning, she testified that she waited until 8 AM, when another interpreter (Anna Colantone, though I read her name spelled in different ways) would take over. So that takes care of that. (1/...)
@@jamessmythe1891 Part Two:
Furthermore, Amanda was interviewed:
1. A few days after the murder. A had not slept decently in days, as is perfectly understandable
2. Her friend M had died. Amanda was distraught.
3. She and R had stopped by the station. She wasn't supposed to be interviewed, but was. She was exhausted from the day and from recent events (I'm sure you're fresh as a rose around midnight....)
4. The interview was carried out in a language she barely spoke.
5. The interpreter, by her own admission, arrived at 12:30 AM. By her own admission, she does not know what happened during the previous interrogation, nor does she know how anyone behaved. Also, the interpreter herself made statements that should have disqualified her (she said her role was to "get the witness to confess." Nothing suspicious about this at all.
6. Amanda knew that PL had a solid alibi. He was at work in his restaurant. She knew this because he had told her not to come to work.
7. There were around 17 detectives interrogating her, back and forth, back and forth...again, standard procedure.
8. The cops misinterpreted the message "See you later" to mean "I, Amanda, and you Patrick will meet later tonight." This is diabolically insane. Almost comical. That's why they focused on Patrick, thinking he had participated in the murder. When they were finally proven wrong, they switched PL with Guede.. the real culprit... without admitting their guilt...
9. After Amanda’s statements, the police went to arrest Lumumba. Nobody bothered to check if he had an alibi. Nobody bothered to corroborate Amanda’s statements, to see if they had been made under duress. They simply went to Lumumba’s house and arrested him... only to be later embarrassed by the fact that he had an alibi. (2/...)
@@jamessmythe1891
Part III
Here is Colantone’s own testimony about Amanda’s condition:
At a certain moment, I don’t know if I had gone away for a moment to speak with someone from the Flying Squad or something, in passing that room, returning to this room where I remember [Amanda] was alone, it was only her, and I was practically…I understood that this girl was truly fatigued, exhausted, she was tired because I practically found her, she was draped on a seat with her head reclined toward the wall, white in the face, with her eyes closed, white, I was very struck by her pallor and I understood that this girl was in bad shape.
This is only the tip of the iceberg. I might send you an excellent analysis of the conditions in which Amanda “confessed.”
Anyway, nothing ridiculous about this at all. Nothing disgusting, absurd and absolutely embarrassing about this whole thing.
Let me know if there is anything else you want me to clarify.
(Incidentally, I’m glad you don’t mention that Harvard professor’s name. And I know why. That “professor” is Alan Dershowitz, and he’s a buffoon. Anyone with half a brain would know this, so we can dismiss anything he says without wasting any more time. Note: that professor does NOT speak Italian and at the time had not read anything on the case, either original or professionally translated).
A.
The biggest liarrr...I have ever seen in my life!! So many different stories.
I feel sorry for Meredith.
Aside from when she was harassed for hours by police until the wee hours of the night, Amanda always told ONE story. The truth.
Also, NO DNA belonging to Amanda or Raffaele was found in Meredith's room. Plenty of DNA belonging to Rudy was found there. Think about it....
No, she shows no signs of lying.
" One thing I could never understand is that Amanda has always said she was given a rough time by the police. But I was named as the one who killed Meredith, the black third world African, AND THEY NEVER GAVE ME ANY PROBLEMS. I DO FIND THAT THAT VERY STRANGE and I also find it amazing that she has never actually said sorry to me " Patrick Lumumba former boss of A. Knox at Le Chic Bar.
😳 are you serious? I would like to know what the heck really happened ☹️ my guess is that she is being deceptive
Lumumba changed his story several times, at first saying he was abused and stripped naked, then changing his tune after the police "talked" to him. Yes, he was an innocent man, but he milked his "victimhood" in exchange for money and TV appearances. He lied several times about Amanda and "spiced up" his recollections to make himself more relevant and more pitied. I'm sorry about his time in jail, but he has milked it in unethical ways, and basically did the same to Amanda later.
@@adee7546 Where did you obtain this information? Please provide your source, as I've never witnessed or read about any of the abovementioned changes in Lumumba's testimony or statements, nor accusations that he was abused by LE. I did hear him make various statements, similar to that of numerous other witnesses who were questioned, saying that none of them were mistreated by police, and found it odd that Amanda was the only person to claim such mistreatment.
@@adee7546 By all accounts, it has only ever been Amanda who's "milked" AND manipulated the public and media for all she can, incessantly claiming to be a victim of everyone and everything, granting countless media appearances for over a decade now on her "campaign of innocence", where she rakes in upwards of $5000 - $10,000 per appearance; working with huge corporations to create content which explicitly paints her in the best light possible, such as the Netflix documentary aptly named "Amanda Knox", and her $4 million book deal, to name a few. To this day Knox has never directly apologized to Patrik, nor paid him the settlement awarded for slandering his name and upending his life, per her calunnia conviction of which she is a felon for life as a result of. As far as unethical behavior, Amanda has set the bar quite high in that category. It is apparent that she has no concern for attributes like respect, decency, honesty, taking accountability, etc.
She is a textbook narcissist who has created a platform and monetarily successful brand solely off of the brutal slaying of Ms. Kercher. Her cruel and malicious nature, lending to her myriad of lies and harassment of the Kercher family, have been relentless, systematic, and plainly obvious over the years. She pathologically enjoys any and all attention, as well as the ability to continue publicly victimizing Meredith and her family.
@@adee7546 More lies and disinformation from payroll A Dee!
Knox falsely accused Lumumba and he could have been jailed for life as a result.
And now payroll A Dee slanders this innocent man who lost his business as a rest.
A Dee is lower than a snake's belly...
It’s like she’s telling a fun memory with all the stupid laughter. By laughing she wants to make it nonchalant so the interviewer won’t think she did it.
Years have gone by. She also could have an emotional disorder.
So blood on the bathroom doesn't freak her out, but she sees shit in the toilet and she looses it.... Doesn't make a lot of sense
RMLLLLL it does to me. blood is like ok a drop or two but shit in my bathroom oh hell no.....
RMLLLLL could be then reason she killed....
They, ARE WOMEN, WE BLEED, I had a terrible period, and yes I bled over the bathroom!!! Especially, when you're young, it happens, so don't think, she's being weird, because periods are very gross sometime, and so that is why she did not react!!!!!!!!!!!
Too much information.
Not being snarky but my son ( almost 12)thinks spit is more gross than poop. God only knows why lol. Everyone's different. Not saying she's guilty or innocent.
According to an interview with The Observer (via The Guardian) following that acquittal, Lumumba believes Knox was found not guilty because of status and appearances. “Amanda is free because she is American, but Americans are human like everybody," Lumumba said. As of last year, the 43-year-old Lumumba was living in Krakow, Poland with his wife. He has alleged that Knox's accusation and his involvement in this case lost him his business and made it impossible to find another job in Perugia. “What Amanda did I don’t know, but I think she knows why Meredith died," Lumumba told The Guardian.
Lumumba told multiple lies when you compare his public statements with his under oath court testimony.
She says: "When i first got there, everything looked completely normal". ie, it was normal for the electric gate to be open, it was normal for there to be bloody footprints on the floor. Do you think it's possible she could be lying?
It looked normal because:
1. she was there either during the crime or after it ( before the police arrived) and she is not telling the full story Or,
2. You could argue that this wasn't the case above and she really did think it was normal, and that is sheer stupidity, but stupidity is not a crime.
@@kq1777 do you know she is a jew??
This woman is a liar and she's got away with it. What kind of girl gets naked and into a shower when her apartment door is wide open with blood on the sink and THEN run off to her partners house because she finds a poop in the toilet!?? If I walked into my house and the door was already open I would either A) check on my roommate first or B) phone the cops straight away coz I was scared of potential burglars !!!
Not only that...she has verbal dioreah... giving us FARRR to much uneccessary information, waffling, to try and throw us off course, it's almost like she's trying too hard to justify herself. I believe she's a pyscopath and I think she was purely jelous of Meredith , I don't know what to think of her boyfriend but I think the main instigator of this murder is Her!!!
She is innocent. It wasnt crazy blood but few drops and since there were several people using the bath room it could ve been bleeding nose that some people have. I wouldnt have thought much of it either excepr for my room mate. I had probably asked her why left the door open. Thats it. She was only 20 years old. Very young and naive
With all due respect, but are you nuts? Because a person doesn't react the way you would expect, you think she is a murderer? Wow, just wow.
@@creativeminds5405 special when the Door was open and a used Toilet and blood l go and take a shower . This girl and her friend are big liars .l would look after the other girl soon . She is so clever and makes a lot of money with the books interviews and Netflix. She only has good lawer s .
@@dagmarzoepke6960 Are you serious? You live in a house with many other people. Used toilets are normal, blood drops are normal especially when you have girls in there and an open door happens all the time. She was very young back then too. I dont think you would think oh there are few blood drops someone has been killed...
@@mariusa.5863 As a law student all I can blame her for is stupidity, which can be explained a little by her Italian really being beginners level back then, and Raffaele being unable to speak proper English up to today.
The investigation started malicious and became coercive, the press was vicious and irresponsible (so-called journalist telling himself he didn't fact check, that's on Netflix) and the prosecutor was one flew over the cuckoo's nest insane and not even ashamed to share his completely absurd theories, that he applied in practice. 🙄 One: if the body of the victim was covered, it was extremely likely that a female person was involved. Like... Whaaat?!?!?! This case blows my mind to today and I pray for Knox to keep holding on... I could go on for ages (especially about Giuliano Mignini's misogynistic and oversexualized delusions), since I'm highly familiar with the case and entirely convinced Amanda Knox is innocent.
The eye witnesses showed concern and broke down Meredith's door, Filomena and her friends looked in the room and were horrified. The only one that did look who was away while they were breaking the door was Amanda. I wonder why? I think she knew what they would find.
She was so horrified when heard about the foot print police found in Meredith's room, but not a bit horrified for the found dead body of her friend!! So, was your evidence left behind that made you afraid of?
she doesn't look at the interviewer in the eye. and for recounting something supposely so horrific, she doesn't seem "bothered", like she's telling a story of how to make a dish or somehting. maybe i'm wrong, but there doesn't seem to be have passion/emotion in her voice....and even half laughing at times when recalling her ordeal. seriously? your friend was just murdered......i'm just pointing out observations. only god knows if she's guilty or not.
Right. She also laughs when remembering telling her mother about "the foot".
I think she is lying. The wrong emotions seem to come out at the wrong times. And all that about her being "confused" is just her trying to convince us that she was so freaked out she couldn't have committed this crime.
Timestamp to wrong emotion please. What are you talking about?
she is not lieing. She is aquitted since 2015. Simple mind....simple conclusions...And i mean people like you...!
@@EE-ky5nt - where is she not acting abnormal, her demeanor is all wrong . . .
@@susannesonnenschein2878- aquitted doesnt mean innocent
Evil. Why did you falsely accuse your boss for doing it.
Silly question.
By their own admission, investigators quickly dismissed the possibility of a break-in (saying that the window was too high for someone to climb) and focused on Amanda as being involved. It never occurred to them that someone else might have faked a break-in. It was their idea that Patrick Lumumba was involved in the murder, simply on the basis of that text message. After hours and hours of interrogation, they got their “confession.” See literature about “false confessions” and you’ll understand.
False confessions. Experts say that the people most vulnerable to false confessions are:
- Young people (younger than 23-24)
- Unsophisticated, naïve people
- Foreigners who don’t speak the language well
- People who place their unconditional trust in the authorities (“If the police say so, it must be true.”)
- People who are unassisted by counsel (often because they don’t think they need one)
Amanda fits all these criteria.
Amanda was 20 years old, a naive, dumb girl (her own flatmates called her "la scema" - the dumb one), in a foreign country, where her friend had been brutally murdered, she finds herself in a police station at 2 o’clock in the morning, with no interpreter (at first, an interpreter arrived around 11:30 PM), without a relative or a lawyer. The European Court later stated that these were violations of Amanda's human rights. In fact, Amanda's statement was NOT allowed in court. Here is the European Court’s decision: canestrinilex.com/risorse/interrogata-senza-avvocato-e-con-interprete-adeguato-italia-condannata-nel-caso-knox-c-edu-2412019/
Almost EVERY SINGLE THING you have stated is false.
Amanda's DNA was NEVER found in Filomena's room. The DNA that was found on the knife did belong to Amanda, but the DNA that was said to belong to Meredith, in fact, DID NOT. Amanda did finger Lumumba, but only after hours and hours of interrogation, where the police kept shouting in her face, showing the text message where she said (in Italian): “See you later,” which investigators thought meant the two were going to meet later that night. By their own admission, investigators quickly dismissed the possibility of a break-in (saying that the window was too high for someone to climb) and focused on Amanda as being involved. It never occurred to them that someone else might have faked a break-in. It was their idea that Patrick Lumumba was involved in the murder, simply on the basis of that text message. After hours and hours of interrogation, they got their “confession.” See literature about “false confessions” and you’ll understand.
False confessions. Experts say that the people most vulnerable to false confessions are:
- Young people (younger than 23-24)
- Unsophisticated, naïve people
- Foreigners who don’t speak the language well
- People who place their unconditional trust in the authorities (“If the police say so, it must be true.”)
- People who are unassisted by counsel (often because they don’t think they need one)
Amanda fits all these criteria.
Amanda was 20 years old, a naive, dumb girl (her own flatmates called her "la scema" - the dumb one), in a foreign country, where her friend had been brutally murdered, she finds herself in a police station at 2 o’clock in the morning, with no interpreter (at first, an interpreter arrived around 11:30 PM), without a relative or a lawyer. The European Court later stated that these were violations of Amanda's human rights. In fact, Amanda's statement was NOT allowed in court. Here is the European Court’s decision: canestrinilex.com/risorse/interrogata-senza-avvocato-e-con-interprete-adeguato-italia-condannata-nel-caso-knox-c-edu-2412019/
As to the plausibility of climbing the outside wall into Filomena’s second-floor window, a test was conducted long after the trial: A young climber quickly dispelled the myth that “only Spiderman could have climbed that wall” (as the appeals court stated) by climbing that very same wall from the ground in about 2 seconds. The climber also stated that any young, fit man could do what he did, without having any particular climbing experience). You can see the video here: www.amandaknoxcase.net/rudy-guedes-break-in/
As to calling the Postal Police: The police were called because a cell phone was found and was being returned to Meredith. As to the phone calls, Raffaele first he called his sister, who was a carabiniere, then she told him to call 112, which he did. Twice (the line was disconnected during the first call). It was proven in court that Raffaele had called the police at EXACTLY the time he said. The confusion stemmed from a video of Raffaele with the Postal Police officer, showing a clock in a parking lot. This clock was later proven to be 10 minutes late, thus supporting Raffaele's testimony.
If Raffaele and Amanda were involved and wanted to avoid detection, why show up to the house the next morning? Why call the police? Why did Amanda accuse Lumumba, a man she KNEW had an alibi, because he was at his café that night (she was supposed to work that night, but business was slow and Lumumba told her not to come).
On the other hand, as per their own testimonies, investigators focused on Amanda, her “odd” behavior, her seeming absence of sadness or tears, and centered on her sexual life (they went so far as to lie that she was HIV positive in order to get her to write down all the men she had sex with). As if that had anything to do with the murder.
Curiously, few sexual questions were asked of Rudy Guede and Raffaele Sollecito, and investigators refused to delve into their alleged sexual depravities. To prove the sexism and misogyny of the courts, when Amanda’s use of condoms and a vibrator was mentioned in court, the judges and jury gasped, as reported by author John Follain.
For whatever depraved reason, prosecutor Mignini was obsessed with the idea of an orgy gone wrong (the theory of the motive for the murder changed over time, as if prosecutors threw all kinds of mud at the wall, hoping something would stick). He persisted on this theory even though NO DNA was found in Meredith’s room belonging to either Amanda or Raffaele. Meanwhile, plenty of blood and semen belonging to Rudy Guede was found in the same room, where the murder occurred. Further, Mignini (and the first court) insisted that Amanda/Raffaele must have known Guede even though no evidence was found supporting this, other than two perfunctory encounters. No one (except for one lunatic) ever stated that they saw the three together and their respective cell phones did NOT contain each other’s phone numbers, nor had they ever texted/called each other.
Mignini is the same prosecutor who at the time was under investigation for abuse of office (he was later convicted and then acquitted), and should never have prosecuted the case. He was also the man behind the “Monster of Florence” fiasco, where his main suspect, Pietro Pacciani, was acquitted by a court just prior his death. In that case, as well, Mignini was obsessed with the idea of orgies, satanic rituals, purchases of sex organs, etc.
Furthermore, once investigators focused on Amanda (which happened almost instantly), everything she did was interpreted against her: if she cried, she was being theatrical, trying to attract attention, if she was calm it meant she was a cold psychopath, if she tried to relax she was indifferent and narcissistic, if she hugged and kissed her boyfriend she was an unfeeling whore, etc.
In court, Mignini asked the dumbest questions. Questions like: “Why did you cry when we took you to the cottage to see the knives?” Are you kidding me? Amanda should have said: “Is that a serious question? My friend was stabbed repeatedly, her throat slit, she was probably beaten and raped. You’re suspecting me of the crime. You take me to the house to look at a drawer full of knives and you ask me why I broke down and cried? Get the fuck out of my face! Get out! And find a prosecutor who is not a complete imbecile to ask me some questions.
Lastly, four of Sollecito’s computers were tested, three out of four were destroyed by the police. How is it humanly possible to destroy a computer while trying to copy files? It’s obvious that the police are either: a) grossly incompetent, or, much more likely, b) deliberately destroyed three hard drives because they would have proven Sollecito innocent.
@Troy Thompson You obviously know nothing about the case. Even Mignini said that Lumumba was involved.
Also, you're not a very deep thinker, are you?
Why would Amanda finger Lumumba, knowing that he had a solid, perfect alibi? (He was at work that night).
The police misinterpreted Amanda's message "See you later" (in Italian) to mean that she and Patrick were going to meet later that night.
Seriously, man. Try reading some documents about the case, instead of sounding like a fool. I mean, if you don't even know the basic facts, what's the point?
@Troy Thompson
Think about it. Why would the prosecutor enlist the help of 12 investigators to interrogate Amanda until the wee hours of the morning?
Why would they call a press conference three days after the murder to say: “The case is closed” before they had even verified the evidence, and even before the forensic results had come in?
Why would they arrest Lumumba in the middle of the night, before they even checked if he had an alibi, or if there was any evidence that linked to the murder?
Do you think that, perhaps, it had something to do with Mignini (the prosecutor):
1. Having looked like an idiot in the ‘Monster of Florence’ case, where he pursued Pietro Pacciani as the serial killer, only to see Pacciani be acquitted shortly before Pacciani’s death?
2. Mignini being under investigation for abuse of office for wiretapping colleagues, journalists and other people related to the ‘Monster’ case, including two prominent journalists?
@Troy Thompson
As I said, you don't know the facts of the case. Under appeal, two INDEPENDENT DNA experts destroyed the prosecution's case, highlighting over 50 errors that they made.
Their evidence was so strong that people in court LAUGHED at the idea that Amanda and Raffaele were responsible.
Italy's Supreme Court, after 8 years of hell, told the lower courts (I'm paraphrasing): 'Leave Amanda and Raffaele alone. They did NOT do this.' ("Il fatto non sussiste').
Amanda said when she saw the crap she knew none of her flat mates would leave it like that. To find your front door wide open, no one home, A substantial amount of blood in the bathroom.Then to calmly shower and not contact anyone for over an hour is unbelievable.
Well, if she had cleaned up the blood instead, that would have made her very suspicious, don't you think?
Her behavior was perfectly consistent with an innocent person. And she did not leave calmly. She got scared once she heard noises.
@@adee7546 what noises?
@@First.Last.99 She said she doesn't know what it was. It could have been someone or something. She simply got scared and left.
@@First.Last.99 There is a good chance that it was Guede still in the house. But we'll never know for sure.
Did they ever DNA test the feces to find out whose it was? Because I have a hunch it was dear old Amanda's...Her "F U" to Meredith who had complained about Amanda's bathroom habits (presumably not flushing when she should among other things)....Amanda is such a colossal LIAR! So creepy and cold. She's a total psychopath. Guilty AF.
If you watch the testimonies of Jodi Arias, who was sentenced to life for stabbing her boyfriend, you see striking similarities. Both try to remain very calm, speaking in a monotone, giving lots and lots of details about insignificant things. Jodi lies over and over again, until someone calls her on it. Amanda has a multitude of lies, starting from the day at the cottage and throughout the trial. She also was caught and questioned thoroughly on the lies.
They both also did yoga, cartwheels, etc. during questioning in A HOMICIDE INVESTIGATION.
They needed Martinez on the case.
I think the complete opposite. Arias goes off on insane tangents about basically anything but the murder, whereas Know almost exclusively describes what happened that day, in chronologial order. She explains her weird hesitant behavior, in my opinion fairly convincingly. Even more importantly, she never once changes her story, let alone make up some wild story of Bonnie and Clyde style murderers who let her live and made her swear not to tell... You are terribly wrong.
She’s sick, she laughed and said I didn’t think someone got murdered haha. Wtf!!!
Why laugh after saying “I didn’t think anyone was murdered” ...🧐
Duping delight...
You don´t know what happend to her. You would also laugh sarkisticly...!
On the handwritten note of Knox that Sollecito presented to the court, Knox wrote: ' Raffaele was not there ' This tacitly implies that she was. How else would she know who was there or not ? So again, she puts herself at the scene of the crime, since Sollecito told the police that she had left his apartment at 9:30 and that she didn't return to his place until 1 A.M. So where was Knox in those intervening hours ? On that alibi Sollecito distances himself from Knox.
I've Always thought she is guilty and i still think she is
I have inserted nothing, you are ignoring facts like Amanda saying the door was always locked when nobody was home. You are ignoring eye witness evidence that the blood was substantial and worrying, You are ignoring the fact that Amanda said finding her front door wide open and no one home and blood in the bathroom she then calmly showered. This is what she said and it is improbable and cannot be true.
She way over does it with the details. On and on and on. Rehearsed for years. So many little details and little explanations. She's lying.
Another thing: she makes sure to say Filomena's room was spotless. Then she says she had called her because her room was ransacked. Uh, hello? I used to think she was innocent.
She said that Laura’s room was spotless not Filomena’s.
'Philomena'
She’s had to explain herself thousands of times of course she’s gonna remember every detail women are oblivious wrong place at the wrong time
Guilty .
Let'sMakeBeats she’s a narcissistic psychopath. She loves the attention and she thinks she’s fooled “everyone”.
She sure made a point of repeating, " I didn't know what to make of it" over& over & OVER again.
so what...?
Very dislikable and a total narcissist.
There were TWO neighbours that heard the piercing scream. One of the witnesses Nara Capezzali said she heard around 10:30 a cry so harrowing that afterwards she had trouble getting back to sleep, a scream corroborated by Antonella Monacchia, who went to bed around 10:30 and after falling asleep was awaked by a piercing scream.
If I heard a scream like that I would call the police. It doesn’t change who is guilty but it is strange to me that 2 women heard the scream of a woman that was so unsettling they couldn’t sleep but didn’t call police.
Question: You've been there for 5 weeks only, sleeping in separated rooms in a house with people You've never met before, right? how do you know she usally didn't lock up her room door, and on top of it you know she only locked it a few times? Explain me this and then you can continue.
That's right. Burglars get in and out of a place as fast as they can with the stolen goods. This is why the police advice, is not to leave valuables that are easy to steal in full view, since they know burglars do not hang about long enough to be caught out in a burglary. Burglars never steal heavy things. Sollecito's call was suspicious to the emergency operator the minute he said that the room was thrashed but NO valuables were stolen. Sollecito became their 1st suspect.
Keep talking Amanda.
I would like to know why, when Filomena asked you to call Meredith, to check up on her, the phone calls to both of her phones only lasted three seconds-was this because you knew she couldn't pick up? Yet in one of your emails, you stated that you tried to call her after your roommate told you to do so, and her phone 'rang and rang and rang'.
Amanda Knox is two things, an actress and a murder!
Jep, so many things are off about her.
She’s annoying as F and not a fraction as fascinating as she thinks she is.
My God you guys make elephants out off bees. She didnt pick up the phone thats it. They werent besties in any way...
Sure, she is a murderer, because she didn't let the phone ring long enough. Don't be ridiculous. Where did you even get that three seconds claim? And is that data even reliable?
There is something wrong with this woman. I can't imagine going on and on and on and even smiling if something like this had happened to me.
What if you didnt like the person that was killed?
@@Scorch428 What if she was one of the killers. Then she is a psychopath.
Why didn't you call the police?.
Where is the prosecutor and cross examination?.
So you would never smile again if something like this happened? I saw no inappropriate emotion. What are you people referring to?
Italy needs to retry AK and RS. The supreme court decision is illegal.
Agreed.
1. Knox’s DNA was found on the handle of the murder weapon, knife which belonged to Sollecito. Kercher’s DNA was found on the blade.
2. Knox claimed that she was with him the whole time, sound asleep until 10 a.m. but Sollecito’s computer was being used at 5:30 a.m. and his phone was turned on at 6:02 a.m.
3. Knox lied, first she said she wasn’t at crime scene then changed her story , admitted she was there but accused her boss Patrick Lumumba of murdering Kercher. Patrick was found to be innocent.
4. According to police investigation, Raffaele Sollecito held Kercher down whilst Knox used knife to stab her.
Under Italian law, both should have got life imprisonment for murder.
Lol she was exonerated, deal with it. You believe she did it just because she doesn't act how you want her to 😂
How can someone have big smile when she says murder?
and when she talks about the " foot". she is laughing.
Simona Lewis duper’s delight. Narcissists, Sociopaths, and Psychopaths do this.
You know that smiling is one of the sign of someone who lies and is guilty? She is recalling that night, and exactly when she said: " I didnt think someone had been murdered", inconsciously and without even realizing, she is actually smiling. She is still showing her content of having done it. Its chilling.
@Jacky J Jones Said the person who knows nothing about psychiatric diseases, criminology, investigative techniques, or anything else, for that matter. I'm glad you can decide a person's guilt based on a micro-expression. People like you are scary.
@Jacky J Jones Right... let's throw away 10,000+ pages of evidence, including the Supreme Court's acquittal, and simply have you stare at people and tell us who is innocent and who is guilty. If you truly are who you say, I will seriously get chills down my spine.
Amanda needs to explain why she was waiting to buy bleach.
She wasn't as was shown in court. I suggest you read Inspector Oreste Volturno's court testimony which reveals that the store owner, Marco Quintavalle, had told Volturno more than a year earlier that he had only seen Knox in his store WITH Sollecito before the murder, not after, and never said she bought bleach or anything else. Quintavalle was deemed unreliable.
Wait a minute ,are we talking here about a murder ???why does she keep smiling and laughing ???that is too weird ...
And that's why you shouldn't be in charge of people.
@@ACRN10 that's a murderer that everyone should be in charge.
How can she laugh as she's telling this tragic story? Also, she's telling the story in such a confusing way, probably to try to detract attention away from herself.
Yes. This is why i didnt understand what even happend after so many interviews and films. Then i watched rudy's interview. It was smth else. He was consistent all the time and really sad. Go watch.
People can laugh when reliving stressful situations
She has Asperger's... it's normal for people with that disease to exhibit "odd" emotions.
she's about as innocent as casey anthony
Seems like she brought the mop that she used to mop up the bloody footprints that the lumidol picked up. I can honestly see now why Italy found them both guilty. What a shame on the overturning of the verdict.
Italian journalists accused the US embassy in Italy of interfering in Italys Judicial system, using their influence through Italian Government to order Italian judges to find her not guilty!
Well, I would not call it a shame because there is no smoking gun evidence of murder. She was tried for murder not accomplice to murder. If the prosecution had gone for accomplice, they probably would be successful with the supreme court.
She can’t stand the silence. She literally won’t stop talking. It’s overkill. No pun intended of course.
@Jacky J Jones That would be true in an initial statement. But this interiew is years later, after others have questioned everything she says, so she's including explanations to all the things people have questioned her about.
She looks not innocent at all. I feel that she is very much lying and bad
energy. Please talk about Merdith . She talks about Only excuse of the situation. Normally quilty people they do that.
Only she is talking about herself. And when she mentioned Merdith's name, she looked very uncomfortable as guilty.
Even knowing a person 2weeks, people can remember things such as a personality and life style and fashions etc.
No one can trust her. She doesn't give any trustworthy.
She says thank goodness her boyfriend was there or else she wouldn’t know who to call but she had already called her mom? And phone reports say she called her mom intermittently throughout the whole situation that day?
Yes! And why is it so difficult to ask someone whats the number for the police. I mean she made it to italy and germany alone didnt she?
I do not understand first why she laughs, and second I do not believe their friends didn't say that she was dead when they went to her bedroom. Her reaction is not normal at all in particular if they kill your flatmate and friend. I will be out of my mind finding out something like that! As she isn't, why was she trying to figure out more about the situation than panicking for the murder of her flatmate? Weird ! Weird ! Non believable at all
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What a colossal liar. So obvious.
Well, Knox has been accused twice of murder. Her school friends used to call her Foxy-Knoxy I imagine because she always escaped from trouble like a fox. Then as a teen ager she appeared at a police station for hurling stones at people's moving car windows which could have resulted in serious injury, which Knox showed no concern and now she has graduated to murder.
Wow, huh? Reaching hard with this comment… 🤣😂
They called her "Foxy Noxy" due to her soccer abilities.
We have all done stupid stuff as kids. Throwing rocks at cars is particularly stupid. Seeing as nobody was harmed and it was forever ago, you ARE reaching hard with this comment. This is why we'd rather have impartial judges decide stuff like this than quick-to-conclude gossips.
I do not know what happened so I am upset with myself for emensly disliking Amanda Knox but I do. Everytime I see or hear her I have this extreme disgust, I feel I should apologize but how do you apologize for an honest reaction to something.
Blabla what a lier. It's so clear that she 100% knows who the murder was/were!
She's innocent as O.J.Simpson, Casey Anthony and Oscar Pistorius.....
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Listening to this without watching enabled me to hear more clearly the "weird" places where she laughed. I so want to believe her story, yet her behavior reveals a more sinister side.
Guilty.
She's guilty & a liar. th-cam.com/video/a0o5qrEZfuc/w-d-xo.html
SunshineSurfsup1 why would you want to believe her story instead of wanting to know the truth.
@@TheCrossPearls Facts? There is also a fact that the forensics was terribly messed up here, leaving one to use other means of inference.
SunshineSurfsup1
What forensics were messed up?
Only a dedicated Amanda follower would describe the blood stains in the bathroom which include a bloody footprint as minute. Filomena and her friends could not wait to see if Meredith was there and hurt or not there at all. The only one that made sure she was away when the door was broken was Amanda, she must have known what they would find.
the photos issued to the public were doctored originally, there's a stark contrast if you ahve seen the original photos.
I've never been able to make up my mind whether she's guilty or not but watching this, she definitely feels off. A startling lack of emotion, up until right at the end when she talks about when she realised they suspected her. She's relaying what feels like a very rehearsed version of events and includes so many details that it seems strange to me to even remember after what would be such a shocking and traumatic event. The little laughs make it seem like she's just telling a story of something strange/funny that happened with her and her friends once, not talking about the horrific murder of her friend. Also, of course the 'skinny woman with lank hair' (lovely description Amanda) seemed off with you, your friend has just been discovered brutally murdered and you're going up to her talking about a shit in the toilet. Why the obsession with that? She talks about that as if it was more disturbing than the actual murder of her friend. I'm not sure but something just doesn't seem right about her.
By the time this interview was given, she'd told the same story over and over and over again for years which may give you the impression it was 'rehearsed'. She remembers and relates the many details due to having to repeat them so many times starting the day the murder was discovered.
Do you expect her to get all emotional and cry every time she's asked to repeat the details of that day? After all, she'd only known Meredith for 6 weeks years before and been through so much trauma herself. She's damned if she cries as being "crocodile tears" and damned if she doesn't as being not being "empathetic". For some people, she just can't win because they see what they want to see depending on their bias.
Why shouldn't she point out to Monica Napoleoni the feces in the toilet? It's one of the things that disturbed her as being totally wrong in the house because she knew her roommates wouldn't leave it unflushed. When she looked the second time, it had sunk to the bottom and from her view looked like it had been flushed between the time she'd first seen it and when the police arrived. But by whom? I'd mention that to the police...and likely you would have, too.
By the way, that same policewoman was later sentenced to over 3 years in prison for misconduct in another matter.
You cannot trust her....
at 5:40 she tells such a HUGE lie. according to ALL the witnesses that were at the house that day amanda was very nonchalant about merediths locked door. she even told them that she even locks her door to take a shower. everybody remembers her saying that. filomena was immediately very concerned and wanted it opened. in her weird email home from november 4th amanda, for the first time mentions being worried about merediths door being locked. she lied to delay the discovery of the body. on top of that. she wasnt in the immediate vicinity when the door was finally opened, which doesnt make sense with her apparent worry. she wasnt worried because she knew what was behind that door. she even says it here. at 10:38 she says "and thats when THEY discovered merediths body" why they? why not "we"? because she knew that it was there and because she was not in front of merediths door.
I'm glad you weren't in the jury. There's nothing with Amanda's nonchalance. It was known that Meredith locked the door after she took a shower. What's odd about that? When the door was opened, Amanda was right there, just behind the guys who tore it down. Yes, THEY discovered Meredith's body. Not her, because she was behind. There is absolutely nothing odd about these statements. You're contradicting yourself. You yourself admit "she was not in front of Meredith's door." So there...
@@adee7546This comment provides nothing, as such: fortunately YOU were not a jury member in these trials. Cretins huh.
@@adee7546 witnesses say otherwise
@@dustiny.334
Which one? The man who admitted he uses heroin all the time, including when he was on the stand?
The old lady who, on the stand, admitted: "I don't know about times or days..."?
Or the supermarket manager, whose story changed 3 times, from: "I didn't see Amanda," to "Yes, I'm sure it was Amanda, and she was buying bleach!"
Which one, please?
@@adee7546 her roomates lol
Her body language clearly shows that she has double personality, I don't believe this woman at all, as I live in Italy I heard her story many times in the local television but I wasn't ever convinced with her made up story.
jan cj perera I’m an American and agree with you. She’s a liar and she’s guilty as Sin.
I'm German and I don't believe her either. Her whole expression reminds me of Elizabeth Haysom who was a compulsive liar and killer. The horrible things she describes and her body language simply don't match and her cold, blank eyes give me the creeps. Poor Meredith. To me, Amanda Knox is the murderer.
I dont believe her too.
First Last
She lies as easily as she breathes. An innocent person has no need to lie.
@@katesleuth1156 I agree totally 🙏
Strange isn’t the word I’d use when describing hearing about my friends been murdered.
Also going into useless details about the story, is atypical of someone selling a lie
She doesn't mention that Raffaele called and hung up on the Italian "911" the first time he called. Also, the Postal Police that happened in first, as well as the other roommates said Amanda tried to get people to avoid opening Meredith's locked door...by telling them Meredith always locked her door.
even to take a shower.
adi sh That was a lie. She didn’t shower. One of the policeman testified that she smelled like cat piss. One of Meredith’s friends testified that Raffaele told her that Knox didn’t shower. So, what was Knox doing at the cottage for over an hr.? Filomena & the police testified that the laundry in the washer was damp.
she laughs at weird times...disengenous
yeah she seems like a sociopath and i cant believe after a bloody murder of her roommate she writes a freakin book! make that money of that poor girls death right ugh
@@jaxx0707 Raffaele did too
She killed Meredith.....period!!!!!
She flipped out over knives? WTF
OJ Simpson, meet your match.
She should have been a fema crisis actor at all our phoney fema shootings, she sucks at hiding guilt
She is so intrigued by the normal human reactions of those around her when Meredith's body was found. She's not wired right.. creepy asf
Amanda's DNA was found on the murder knife handle with Meredith's DNA on the blade tip. Guilty!
She did it ...you can just tell.
No
Yea,her crappy acting has always gave it away to me
She sees shit in a toilet at her house and doesn't flush it??
maybe she liked the look of it? she is a fucking weirdo you know
I was wondering that. But it was said that she and Meredith didn’t get on because she Amanda was not clean so maybe she left it believing it was Meredith’s because the other girls were away so she could confront her about it.
ff1001 yeah I guess that's a possibility
That has always been a HUGE red flag for me. Anyone would have immediately flushed it, then bitched about it later. She knew she had struck gold when she saw that, which was not early the next day, as she claims. Guede's DNA was all over a room that had been obviously cleaned and wiped down, and I'm sure that would make a pretty good source of DNA. Why would Amanda's reading light be on the floor beside Meredith's body, with blood soaked towels and smeared surfaces of wiped down blood? I don't think we'll ever know what actually transpired, but I do believe Amanda maliciously attacked Meredith that night, and somehow was able to enlist the help of another party to clean and stage the scene afterwards. I believe Amanda acted alone in the actual murder, based on my research of the evidence and her psychopathology. Her timeline and alibi have not and cannot be verified. Period. It's evident that Rafaello being her alibi was sketchy, as he flipped within just a couple hours of questioning, stating that she wasn't with him all night, and in fact didn't know where she was during the time Meredith was murdered. Anyone who believes she is innocent is naive, in denial, or incapable of piecing simple factual evidence together.
I cant believe that any normal person would not be alarmed by finding their door open and blood in the bathroom. Why would she shower without knowing the reason why?
not saying that shes guilty or not......but as someone who studies abroad alot .and knows a lot of people who do ..STUDY ABROAD 101 ..like the first thing you know is the damn emergency number in the country you are going to ...the fact that shes pretending like she doesnt know that....is so odd
it seems like rafaelle was targeted by her the week before like he was someone really easy for her to manipulate i think she might be gay
Interesting....she said in a previous interview that she didn't think anything about the speckles of blood. Now in this interview she thinks the speckles of blood were related to menstruation
She never denied seeing blood. If you have not seen pictures and videos of the bathroom it was a few isolated single drop of blood. A drop here and a drop there.
I am not saying she denied seeing blood. Her excuse/theory changes
@@vj9055 You do know about Rudy Guede right? The petty burglar that left all the indisputable evidence - such as his bloody palm print under Meredith's naked body?
@@imateapot51 I read both books. Amanda makes sense. She is innocent And yes I agree with you. The books are a must read
The thing is that Meredith's REAL friends testified in court that Meredith had had a fight with Knox where Meredith had accused Knox of stealing her money. So the money went missing BEFORE Meredith died. The Italian police also found in Knox's bank account that Knox had withdrawn large amounts of money, which they believe she used to buy drugs. Meredith used to call Knox Drugtard. There was animosity between the two specially when Patrick Lumumba fired Knox from her job for flirting with men.
First time im hearing her friends testified meredith accused amanda for stealing the money. I read ot was guede that said that.
I read the testimonies of her friends and this was not stated or even alluded to.
Exactly. After all in the U.S. if you are black with the institutionalised racism that exists there, Knox thought it was the same in Italy but she was wrong. Her word was taken seriously when she accused Patrick but there was no evidence against him, and he had plenty of witnesses who came forward to vouch for him. Whereas Knox is not backed by anyone, on the contrary, the witnesses place her at a convenience store at a time when she claims to have been asleep at Sollecito's which he denies.
Philomena could not believe why Amanda when finding the front door wide open would not be worried and not contact her, as the door was always locked when nobody was home. Amanda's email is in response to none of her friends believing her story.
I don't trust her.
People sometimes forget that she LIED and LIED during the first interrogation. She was willing to destroy an innocent man's life and she DID. Patrick has spoken about what happened to his family after he was wrongly arrested due to AManda's total fabrications. Ultimately he lost his bar. He and his wife and baby had to leave Italy as they were completely financially destroyed due to the stigma of the case. They moved to his wife's native country. Thing is he said they were completely happy in Italy, doing well. Then a guilty woman points her finger at him and in one instant Patrick's whole life is ruined. Does she have remorse over what she did to an innocent man and his family? I doubt it. If she is fine with her part in a horrific murder, then ruining an innocent man's life probably isn't a big deal.
Total nonsense, she never accused him, the police are the ones that did that, she was animate at the station that she did not believe the events the police put down in Italian and forced her to sign it.
@@grzlbrThink again. According to court proceedings first Knox said she was with her boyfriend sound asleep until 10.30am. Later she changed her story and admitted she was present at the crime scene and blamed Patrick the bar owner for the murder, he was found innocent. According to police evidence, Knox used the knife on her whilst her boyfriend Sollecito held her down, third person Rudy Guede was there watching and listening.
Rudy knew who killed her but refused to name the person, got jailed for withholding the evidence.
@@jamessmythe1891 She never changed her story.
she was coerced and threatened to sign a document in Italian , that was illegal.
She clearly said in her own hand the document was bogus.
The knife was proven to be a fraud.
Just wrote this to the lunatic above you.
Dear God! She was coerced. She said what the investigators wanted to hear based on a text she sent Lumumba, one the police decided to misunderstand and make a huge deal of. Remember that harmless text?
Then she signed papers she couldn't even understand. Illegal btw.
One in four, one in four (!!!) innocent people completely break under coercion. Go, go read the statistics! And while you are at it, watch "When they see us". Real case too. All black kids were 100% innocent but confessed to a rape they had absolutely nothing to do with. Amanda is white, female and sexually active (and crazy attractive, even more so in her 20s), and the prosecutor (Mignini) became sooo obsessed with her and he had these unbelievable misogynistic theories that I think even Ben Shapiro would get goosebumps from. He said out loud if the body of the victim was covered, that was extremely likely something done by a female. Like... Whaaat? Stop watching pseudo-science videos and try to stick to physical evidence and motive. There's no way she could have cleaned her DNA and left Rudy Guede's aaall over the crime scene (inside the victim included). Btw, he (Rudy Guede) lied through the trial several times too and was the only one with a criminal record. But he played the race card pretty damned nicely. Like in “When they see us”, Amanda’s rights were violated over and over and over again in Italy. They even took her blood and told her she was HIV positive as an excuse to know about her ONE digit "long" list of previous sex partners (that's the level of Mignini's obsession with the young woman). Then they leaked that piece of (freaking irrelevant!!!) info to the press and right afterwards told her she was not positive, that it was a mistake. Their bad. Nice, aye?
She's actually a freaking hero to not have given up and taken her own life, or something. And so is her amazing family and extremely loyal friends.
I could actually bring myself to shrug at the ignorant Italian mob on the streets celebrating the wrong conviction of an innocent American citizen, but when I see Americans doing it too...
About Amanda Knox' lies. A first important point is that Amanda Knox did not just "lie during an interrogation". She did indeed spin a story falsely incriminating Patrick Lumumba, but she didn't do that during an interrogation: her false accusation was a protracted and repeated behaviour. It went on long after the interrogation. Indeed Knox went on spinning false stories - not just accusing Lumumba but also threatening Sollecito - that this is protracted behaviour is a first important point to bear in mind, yet still not the main point. - By the way I also note that her written memoriales are not the work of a person who is weak and naive to the point of having lost mental control, no longer able to concoct and organize a tortuous manipulation. Her memoriale is a sophisticated and highly controlled text, it is the manifest attempt by a person still in full rational control; anyway, any theory of Amanda being weak and naive and psychologically coerced should be backed with evidence. It should be proven, you cannot just postulate or guess that a person lies because is psychologically weak, with no evidence. And yet as I said this is still not the main point.
A rather more significant point is Knox's actual position in the trial. her actual claims. The fact that Knox, at the preliminary hearing and trial, did NOT claim that she had lied, under pressure. That was not her position at the trial at all. On the contrary, she claimed that she had not lied ad all, and told that she suffers of a false memory syndrome. Her defence called a psychiatist from a Rome university to testify to support her claim. Your might have played the card about psychological weakness and coercion if Knox had brought a story of psychological coercion to the trial. She did not. she brought up a story of a false memory syndrome.
So, the lack of consistency in her own explanations about her behaviour is a point more important than what she said during an interrogation. This is not, however, the only contradiction from Knox in her own defense.
But a further and more relavant fact is that Amanda Knox did not lie only when falsely accusing Lumumba. She simply told a huge load of lies, above all before the interrogation. Her whole "story" about having showers in bloody bathroom and carrying mops through the town is a mass of lies. There is no piece of it consistent with any other or with any piece of reality.
And then she also lied subsequently: after the trial, in her public declarations, and in her book. She's a systematic liar.
One further element to note, is that we are not talking about just one liar; wre are talking about two. Not just Amanda Knox, but also Sollecito always lied. And it is now and an established judicial truth that "all his versions are lies".
Sollecito told lies in his changing versions during interrogations, he told proven lies in his book (a Judge forced him and Gumbel to admit that his book was fictional), and he tells lies today.
Before any other consideration, any person would ask themselves why two "innocent" people should tell lie all the time - that's not exactly what innocent people do.
I won't get into further detalis anout all the dimensions and the steps of Knox lying about accusing Lumumba and about the rest (including her Dec. 17th interrogation, etc.) because it would get too long.
About Rudy Guede: he did not act alone. Note: this is, by the way, a fact established definitively by the last verdict.
But it is just a proven fact - it is evidence whoever wants to look into it - that this murder was phisically committed by more than one person. It is a fact that it would be impossible for a single perpetrator to commit this crime. Forget about Introna's theory, which is unrealistic and inconsistent with findings and was rightly dismissed by the judge.
Meredith Kercher was killed by multiple perpetrators. While Knox is officially proven to have been certainly present at the murder.
Knox, actually, did indeed take part physically to the killing action - she was not just an observer - but still, bear in mind that even a "passive" observer would bear responsability, because Meredith Kercher did not die on the spot. She died of blood loss after an agony of ten minutes or more. Not just the physical perpetrators, but even a hypothetical passive observer who happened not to call for help would be a person committing a serious life-threatening or deadly offense,
Agreed...it only baffles me how come that there was no physical evidence like DNA to link her to the crime scene then but Rudy's was? I mean that's the sole reason she got away after all
@@afifanasir4572 there is many physical evidence to link her to the crime: in the house, in romanelis room , just not in the murder room except her lamp being on the floor. Thats actually understandeble because the room was full with blood. Imagine buckets of merediths blood.
That's right. Whilst Rudy Guedes was at the disco, Amanda and Raffaele were cleaning up the cottage and they were unexpectedly interrupted when the Postal Police suddenly turned up unannounced. This is why they did not have enough time to clean the bathroom where the two murderers had left their DNA mixed with the victim's DNA in the bidet, where Knox cleaned her bloody feet and in the sink, the faucet, the cotton bud box and Filomena's room and the half foot print of Sollecito on the bath mat
I don’t believe her. Never did. An innocent man is in prison. I’m disgusted. .
Nobody is in prison.
@@ASimoneau Is Rudy out?
@@alteredcatscyprus Yes.
@@ASimoneau I am happy to hear it if true, but I don’t believe he should have ever been there, which imo means he was violated terribly and horribly.
@Jonathan Colatorti You can bet whatever you want, believe whatever you want. I have no right to control either one.
In a house where nothing was stolen, not even the jewellery that was in full view, not even the computer either. Knox and Sollecito however, were charged of stealing the two telephones belonging to Meredith and Filomena and the fact that it was Sollecito who reported the "brake-in" where nothing was stolen when the Postal Police had already arrived had found Meredith, raised serious suspicious to the emergency responder. Sollecito was asked to come in to the police station, he was their 1st susp
She's been over it many times and ironed out all the inconsistencies
No ... not really. She was protective over the poop in the bowl but not the blood. Why? She needed them to test the poop but wouldn't come out and directly say it. Why? She just discovered with her roomies that meredith is brutally murdered but she is more scared the poop was gone and more concerned with trying to redirect the police's attention to its existence. Why?
It was a staged scene to look like a robbery gone bad. Why would the dude who helped kill her want to leave a trail of evidence against himself?
Why did amanda look like she hadnt showered in days when she was kissing her dude on the scene of meredith's murder if she had only just taken a shower a couple of hours earlier? Her hair is not fresh, and clearly hadnt been washed on that day and likely not the day before either. And the police and others testified that she smelled like sex. Why did she and why is she lying about that? What was she really doing during that time?
Her guy came out and admitted amanda was not with him all that night in question and she had asked him to lie. How have you reconciled this?
She said either she is a psychopath in sheep's clothing or she is "you." Is she you? She is not me. Unless she is you, she only gave us one other option of who she is. Why don't you believe her?
She is innocent
That's how human memory works. Deal with it. Oh, and that proves nothing.
What about Lumumba? Just like if she never accused him, nobody asked her about that lie.
She was coerced. The police already suspected him and fed her lines.
@@TheWchurchill4pm That's not true.
You are naive@@TheWchurchill4pm
AK's continual portrayal of herself as the victim, is sickening to watch. Meredith is the victim, not this media junkie.
You spend 4 years in jail as an innocent woman, then have to deal with "geniuses" like you constantly insulting her, then tell me if you're not a victim. The European Court condemned Italy for its violation of AK's human rights. Try reading something...
O.J. got away with murder and so did Knox and Sollecito. It doesn't matter that Knox accused an innocent man for the murder. It doesn't matter that they didn't have alibies nor that pathologist said that three different knives inflicted three different kinds of wounds. It sends a message to the world that if you have money and influence you can get away with murder too. My heart goes out to the Kercher family who didn't get justice.
It was "weird" to you that her door was locked.....and an hour later you told the police that Meredith was used to lock the door even to go to the bathroom?!?!? Something doesn't stand up!
How did she know Meredith had her throat slit i.e. she admitted this to Meredith's friends & her flatmates when the police didn't even know the cause of death. Plus she admitted in the first trail no kitchen utensils had been taken too or from her house to her boyfriends, in order words, how did the victims (Meredith) & your DNA ned up on the exact same knife? She must have changed her story over 10 times about where she was on the night of the murder but her telephone & laptop records say otherwise. her blood along with the victim on taps, light switches, the bidet etc etc Plus the hard driver in hers & her boyfriend's laptop were removed from the actual laptop-bizarre. Eye witnesses saw her in the morning of 2nd Nov 2007 & the night before when she was supposed to be in bed. Honestly, it goes on & on & on & on & OJ Simpson style on & on....
How do you explain the three different kinds of wounds ? The THREE different kinds of knives that were used ? Or you think that Guedes was switching knives as he was attacking Meredith ?
If you believe her story, well, just share your home with her.
Happily
HELL NA #ienjoybreathing
I've always said that, she's an odd girl but that doesn't make her or her ex boyfriend guilty of murder. There wasn't one shred of reliable evidence saying they were ever in that room.
Karma will come your way soon enough monster. Justice for Meredith.