28 years later and that damn Spawn blob still terrifies me! 6:52 I always assumed the gibs were intended to represent Cthon's body being gibbed by the thunderbolt attack.
Interesting, I always thought that id designed Quake levels in the same manner as Doom. I think you can see the remnants of this philosophy in Sandy's levels, where he places plenty of powerups, but keeps the big weapons for later into Episode 4
Wow. I had no idea the Vores had an actual special damage boost only against zombies to ensure infights wouldnt perma trap them. Very smart from iD there. Also those quake 1 gib sounds are still the best.
Ogres don't get the same bonus. I have an old video on my channel showing an Ogre and Zombie infighting. The result is a stalemate (until the player intervenes).
I did start a Quake walkthrough years ago but stopped after Gloom Keep because I had recorded three new videos and had overwritten my save file, only to discover the video files were unusable. I need the motivation to try again. Maybe I'll start it again, and try the shotgun starts! I already do things like telefragging shamblers as you describe! Always fun!
That was fun. I was surprised that you pronounce Chton's name as "Kah-ton". I'd think the "th" would be pronounced like in "thick". That Ogre closet was surprising to see, it's very Doomy. Would have assumed that it used QuakeC instead, which to my knowledge is ACS, but more potent. Perhaps not everyone on the dev team knew how to use it though; QuakeC couldn't have been implemented either at that point as well. For the longest time I assumeed the Shubboss simply keeps summoning Shamblers and Vores just like the Icon of Sin, but when I saw Dwars's playthrough with the Copper mod I was shocked to see that the enemy amount was very finite. In any case, all this brings an interesting question: most Doom mappers, if they wanna test their own map, they just pistol start it. Quake mappers have to ask themselves, what maps precede them, and also what weapons shall be available to the player. That's a bit much to consider if you are only designing a campaign for a continous playthrough; imagine the lulz that would ensue if the project leader suddenly secided that a couple maps should be swapped. Also, it's nice to see that in both SS and Q1, a fish screws with the killcount.
Pretty sure every unit/hub in Quake 2 is very beatable due to the blaster. Doubt it would be fun though since Quake 2 isn't designed for such type of play.
The quality of your videos is insane honestly. Great work as always. Please keep the quake videos coming! On a side note... I actually hoped that some of these levels were deemed impossible so that we can have a follow up later lol. Oh well.... Maybe some other challenge.
Papa Pumpkin! 🎃 Good to hear more from you. Interesting analysis, and good to put into perspective the importance of weapon placement. I'm a consummate continuous player, so I only tend to think of them as slightly bigger or smaller ammo pickups in most games, so I never really noticed how sparsely they are distributed in Quake. Do you think it's possible to also shotgun-start the expansions? At least the classic ones, SoA and DoE.
Btw. I always felt Quake pretty easy, even on Nightmare.However, most of the fan-made-maps on quaddicted can be pretty harsh on hard, or even on normal. I always rush on choosing nightmare and then got my ass kicked. :D
Good job, decino. You're 100% every level with a shockgun, and I'l never seen someone do it, but good job for you, and I know those 6 levels are hell to do it. I think I can't do it like you did. It's a great quake video . Hopefully, you will make more in the future. By me Mr. Green (=
I've idly considered trying this challenge before, and now I'm super glad I never did. Oof, what a nightmare. Also, _oh my god_ I finally know how that stupid E1M4 ogre works. Thank you so much. Any chance you could look at R1M6 Temple of Pain (in Dissolution of Eternity)? There's a Wrath enemy that doesn't teleport in in the graveyard area, that I'm pretty sure is the only enemy in the entirety of the Remaster that's unkillable. It's almost certainly a broken trigger like the E2M4 scrags, but Remastered fixes every other broken trigger except this one so I'd love to know for sure that it's not some esoteric activation criteria like that ogre.
Amazing video decino, your patience is legendary. I remember trying to do this like 2 years ago but gave up by the second episode when it becomes absolutely clear that these levels where not meant to be shotgun started. Getting tons of ammo for non-existent weapons feels like torture, but of course you managed it. wp
As a big longtime fan of Half-Life and many later shooters and open world games, and working backwards to falling in love with Quake, Quake 2, and Doom, I am very accustomed to doing entire games in a continuous run. To compare, HL1 and expansion packs are designed for a full continuous run, and you revisit your favorite sections through saves and loads. You have to activate sv_cheats to warp to a map/give yourself weapons and ammo. Some sections need you to make frugal use of your ammo (like Blast Pit has a near-complete ammo drought that you only replenish in the next chapter). HL2 and episodes require one full continuous playthrough where you can unlock each individual chapter. Afterwards, when you want to start from a chapter in the middle of the game, you receive all the weapons you should have up until that point along with a comfortable amount of ammo. Even after picking up the Quake and Doom games, I still prefer for the most part playing in a continuous run for my amateur skill level. If I pistol start a level in Doom to do something in a pinch, I am just comfortable with the Hurt Me Plenty difficulty setting. That said, for a while now I have been fascinated with the level design in these types of games accommodating the challenge of playing from scratch, and I respect the masters who effortlessly execute the playstyle of playing a level from scratch (like yourself). Sometimes pistol/shotgun starting does require more patience because you often have lighter weapons to take on tanky enemies (like shotgunning a baron in Doom or an Ogre or Death Knight in Quake).
ive always had issues with the visibility in quake, since everything looks so dank and spooky i could hardly see a damn thing when i first played the game and seeing this video reminded me of that, since most of the time i couldnt figure what was going on lmao, but its another great video Decino, thank you kindly for giving me an excellent video to watch as I was having breakfast :) also, hope everything has been going well with the baby pumpkin situation, best of wishes!
Quake. Oh those hours of gameplay. This was the first game where I had to fully master the mouse, rotating head in all directions. Completed game 3 times on Nightmare, started for 4th time and pretty much abandoned it (singleplayer at least).
The period of time between 1990 and 2000 was the best period for video game evolution. I'm confident we won't ever see leaps forward like this again. Everything is so "same" now.
as a very long time fan of your content but a bigger fan of quake then doom i have been waiting for this moment forever. i don't even get your videos on my recommended very often. so i would like to thank you for making this video because it means a lot for me.
I remember a thing that not been mentioned in Dos Quake at least its possible also not to get 100% with flying monsters in E1M3 since i somehow also did the wrong order that i dont know the reason for to trigger all the flying in big water area to spawn
13:02 Oh my god, you did it!!! That level was the one that gave me the most trouble when I self-imposed this challenge a couple of years ago! You really are my hero :D
4:12 They should have made the telefrag priority Ranger's gimmick in Quake Champions just for laughs.
@SyncError
I think I now have a Pavlovian response to this specific shade of yellow.
yellow Quake video? I'm dreaming
decino say hi to me
Hi.
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@@decinodecinito, cuando vas a hacer otro video del id vault?
Yo hi
will you also do a video about quake mods? like the original Team Fortress, that started out on quake? also a proud booster here 🗣️🔥
The code snippets are in QuakeC, right?
Correct.
19:14 Excuse me, a WHAT's Atrium? I thought this was a family friendly channel.
Everything else: Smooth sailing
The Dismal Oubliette: Pain
Slipgate "complex"? Really? I find it quite simple.
8:47 Say "Hi" to Dopefish
Mtpain27, AND a Decino analysis? Damn, it's a good day.
28 years later and that damn Spawn blob still terrifies me!
6:52 I always assumed the gibs were intended to represent Cthon's body being gibbed by the thunderbolt attack.
Interesting, I always thought that id designed Quake levels in the same manner as Doom. I think you can see the remnants of this philosophy in Sandy's levels, where he places plenty of powerups, but keeps the big weapons for later into Episode 4
Sandy is the patron saint of pistol start and I so respect him for that.
Wow. I had no idea the Vores had an actual special damage boost only against zombies to ensure infights wouldnt perma trap them. Very smart from iD there.
Also those quake 1 gib sounds are still the best.
Wow! Glimmer!
Ogres don't get the same bonus. I have an old video on my channel showing an Ogre and Zombie infighting. The result is a stalemate (until the player intervenes).
this seems like an interesting challenge, good job!
I should replay Quake again. Thanks for the incentive with this video, decino.
I love how you say "yep, a quake video, *_but first let's talk about doom_* "
I did start a Quake walkthrough years ago but stopped after Gloom Keep because I had recorded three new videos and had overwritten my save file, only to discover the video files were unusable. I need the motivation to try again. Maybe I'll start it again, and try the shotgun starts! I already do things like telefragging shamblers as you describe! Always fun!
Man, Trent killed it with this soundtrack
Was erronously thinking this got released during Vytaan's stream... whoops...
decino video and it is not even pumpkin month?
LESS GOO
I'm assuming a video on the new weapons and enemies from Legacy of Rust is in the cards?
Wet Sunday night redeemed by quality video. Big ups decino🙃
That was fun.
I was surprised that you pronounce Chton's name as "Kah-ton". I'd think the "th" would be pronounced like in "thick".
That Ogre closet was surprising to see, it's very Doomy. Would have assumed that it used QuakeC instead, which to my knowledge is ACS, but more potent. Perhaps not everyone on the dev team knew how to use it though; QuakeC couldn't have been implemented either at that point as well.
For the longest time I assumeed the Shubboss simply keeps summoning Shamblers and Vores just like the Icon of Sin, but when I saw Dwars's playthrough with the Copper mod I was shocked to see that the enemy amount was very finite.
In any case, all this brings an interesting question: most Doom mappers, if they wanna test their own map, they just pistol start it. Quake mappers have to ask themselves, what maps precede them, and also what weapons shall be available to the player. That's a bit much to consider if you are only designing a campaign for a continous playthrough; imagine the lulz that would ensue if the project leader suddenly secided that a couple maps should be swapped.
Also, it's nice to see that in both SS and Q1, a fish screws with the killcount.
QuakeC is not a scripting language, it's what id used to code and compile all the game logic.
great video decino, can't wait for the quake 2 100% blaster start video
Pretty sure every unit/hub in Quake 2 is very beatable due to the blaster. Doubt it would be fun though since Quake 2 isn't designed for such type of play.
I ❤ decino
Me: "A Decino Quake video?!"
Decino: "That's right, a Quake video."
Woah.. Quake!! Fond memories of ""running"" this on a 133mhz machine in software rendering LOL
The quality of your videos is insane honestly. Great work as always.
Please keep the quake videos coming!
On a side note... I actually hoped that some of these levels were deemed impossible so that we can have a follow up later lol. Oh well.... Maybe some other challenge.
Decino making Quake 1 content? I'm in! I would love for more in the future (community mods walthroughs maybe?)
Papa Pumpkin! 🎃 Good to hear more from you.
Interesting analysis, and good to put into perspective the importance of weapon placement. I'm a consummate continuous player, so I only tend to think of them as slightly bigger or smaller ammo pickups in most games, so I never really noticed how sparsely they are distributed in Quake.
Do you think it's possible to also shotgun-start the expansions? At least the classic ones, SoA and DoE.
Now do “can you beat doom eternal on ultra nightmare without picking up any weapons?”
Now I have another interesting idea. Is every Doom 3 map beatable with a console start?
10:52 bro is guarding the quad damage
12:04 uwu
Thank god! I needed my decino fix!
"Hi" to Decino say me.
Here before 1k views
Proud patreon of the boomer shooter analysis!
Decino! How do you make these info graphics? Are those just sprite animations? And how do you get the spectator mode view?
10,000 hours in Adobe Premiere.
Oh my a big one! Thanks man!
Btw. I always felt Quake pretty easy, even on Nightmare.However, most of the fan-made-maps on quaddicted can be pretty harsh on hard, or even on normal. I always rush on choosing nightmare and then got my ass kicked. :D
This whole comment section is filled with time travellers
At least! I always preferred Hexen over Doom and Quake over Quake II.! :)
YES! Decino Quake content is just what I needed to cure my headache
Kowalski : Commander, I detect yellow thumbnail ! Commander : good job my friend, good job
🎉🎉🎉rubbing my hands together every time decino drops a explanation video
Seeing Quake's models atop of the classic yellow background still doesn't feel right. Great video. Looking forward to the next Quake video.
my doom friend sent me this to me because he knows i love quake
quake and doom solidarity 4 ever 🤝
🚨❗️YELLOW QUAKE VIDEO❗️🚨 My prayers have been answered.
Hey there decino, The Pumpkin Man!
I hope all is well with the Pumpkin Family and you all are doing great. All the best!
I see why you changed the name of the final boss rather than attempting to pronounce that one
Good job, decino. You're 100% every level with a shockgun, and I'l never seen someone do it, but good job for you, and I know those 6 levels are hell to do it. I think I can't do it like you did. It's a great quake video . Hopefully, you will make more in the future. By me Mr. Green (=
Always great listening to your videos! Thank you!!
WHOA 35 SECOND!/1/1/1/1 AND ITS QUAKE?!?!? NGRGGRGRGRGRGRGRGRGRGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
I've idly considered trying this challenge before, and now I'm super glad I never did. Oof, what a nightmare.
Also, _oh my god_ I finally know how that stupid E1M4 ogre works. Thank you so much.
Any chance you could look at R1M6 Temple of Pain (in Dissolution of Eternity)? There's a Wrath enemy that doesn't teleport in in the graveyard area, that I'm pretty sure is the only enemy in the entirety of the Remaster that's unkillable.
It's almost certainly a broken trigger like the E2M4 scrags, but Remastered fixes every other broken trigger except this one so I'd love to know for sure that it's not some esoteric activation criteria like that ogre.
Amazing video decino, your patience is legendary. I remember trying to do this like 2 years ago but gave up by the second episode when it becomes absolutely clear that these levels where not meant to be shotgun started. Getting tons of ammo for non-existent weapons feels like torture, but of course you managed it. wp
As a big longtime fan of Half-Life and many later shooters and open world games, and working backwards to falling in love with Quake, Quake 2, and Doom, I am very accustomed to doing entire games in a continuous run. To compare, HL1 and expansion packs are designed for a full continuous run, and you revisit your favorite sections through saves and loads. You have to activate sv_cheats to warp to a map/give yourself weapons and ammo. Some sections need you to make frugal use of your ammo (like Blast Pit has a near-complete ammo drought that you only replenish in the next chapter). HL2 and episodes require one full continuous playthrough where you can unlock each individual chapter. Afterwards, when you want to start from a chapter in the middle of the game, you receive all the weapons you should have up until that point along with a comfortable amount of ammo. Even after picking up the Quake and Doom games, I still prefer for the most part playing in a continuous run for my amateur skill level. If I pistol start a level in Doom to do something in a pinch, I am just comfortable with the Hurt Me Plenty difficulty setting. That said, for a while now I have been fascinated with the level design in these types of games accommodating the challenge of playing from scratch, and I respect the masters who effortlessly execute the playstyle of playing a level from scratch (like yourself). Sometimes pistol/shotgun starting does require more patience because you often have lighter weapons to take on tanky enemies (like shotgunning a baron in Doom or an Ogre or Death Knight in Quake).
Huh, another Analysis on Quake???
What a world im resting on.
ive always had issues with the visibility in quake, since everything looks so dank and spooky i could hardly see a damn thing when i first played the game and seeing this video reminded me of that, since most of the time i couldnt figure what was going on lmao, but its another great video Decino, thank you kindly for giving me an excellent video to watch as I was having breakfast :)
also, hope everything has been going well with the baby pumpkin situation, best of wishes!
Quake. Oh those hours of gameplay. This was the first game where I had to fully master the mouse, rotating head in all directions. Completed game 3 times on Nightmare, started for 4th time and pretty much abandoned it (singleplayer at least).
i really enjoyed the little zombie adventure just so they can get telefragged
Mom! get the popcorn, the internet pumpkin man just uploaded a long video! 🍿
The period of time between 1990 and 2000 was the best period for video game evolution. I'm confident we won't ever see leaps forward like this again. Everything is so "same" now.
Always a fijn avond when Mnr Pumpkin uploads far too in-depth details from the classics.
Super Lekker
Decino is the only channel where I've got my thumbnail randomiser set to off.
as a very long time fan of your content but a bigger fan of quake then doom i have been waiting for this moment forever. i don't even get your videos on my recommended very often. so i would like to thank you for making this video because it means a lot for me.
Also, I always anticipate you saying beaks makes me coom every video now 😆
Holy molly... that video probably took a lot of time to make! Great work as always!
I remember a thing that not been mentioned in Dos Quake at least its possible also not to get 100% with flying monsters in E1M3 since i somehow also did the wrong order that i dont know the reason for to trigger all the flying in big water area to spawn
I actually discovered your channel through your Serious Sam videos, so I'm glad to see you cover other games as well!
Another yellow background, and I am early for once! X3
PUMPKIN MAN UPLOAD WOOOOO
And of course, yellow bg thumbnail as usual :-)
Babe wake up a new vid with a solid yellow background just dropped!
13:02 Oh my god, you did it!!!
That level was the one that gave me the most trouble when I self-imposed this challenge a couple of years ago!
You really are my hero :D
A quake video!! I love this game so much that I only am capable of eating Quaker Oats.
finally a quake video! I've been waiting for another one of these for ages!
Pumpkin man giving some love to Quake is what I needed for a perfect Sunday.
100% analysis? dis gonna b gud
(10/10 RuneScape dance at the end by the way.)
Ah, finally, a quake 1 analysis video after 5 years of waiting.
This video reminded me that I still need to play all of Quake's expansions.
22:32 oh man I want to ask why they spawn in the ceiling 😊 mapping error I’m sure
Its been a sec, pumpkin man. welcome back
Nice to see some new yellow thumbnails
Woah a quake video :o
i see yellow thumbnail.
neurons activate
He's back with Quake, holy molly!!!
wow, looks who's back, and with second best fps game of all time 😁
The Pump King is back...again! 😅
You know what? *Opens Trenchbroom*
Can you shotgun start all Quake levels?Yes is it gonna be easy like in Doom?Hell no.
Oooh, I hope this isn't a one-off! QC code-diving nerdery let's gooo
quake theme is so hype, love NIN
I'll try it, what could possibly go wrong?
Decino talking about Quake now? I gotta see this.
more quake analysis vids when
Haha nice, love your quake videos always a joy to see a new one!
Next video idea: quake pacifist run)
Pacifist quake run when?
We geting out the brown techbase with this one.
I like Quake man’s Zubaz pants.
Your finally back??