Dooku is very overlooked. He was absolutely pivotal as Sidious apprentice, he was able to use his wealth, charisma, and reputation to avoid any suspicion of his true motives and unite the disparate factions of discontent into a true threat. He came up with the plan that recruited Jango Fett, he personally recruited and trained Ventress and Grievous, he caused a schism in the Jedi Order making many abandon it for his teachings. He also helped fund part of the GAR and indeed placed the order for it under Syfos Dyas name and erased the Archives pertaining to Kamino. He was also instrumental in pushing Anakin closer to the Dark Side(and indeed held back from killing Anakin on multiple occasions(much to his later regret i am sure) Without Dooku as Tyranus, Sidious likely never could have achieved control as thoroughly as he did.
The crazy part though is that though while what so say is true, Sidious would never both recognize AND appreciate Tyranus's efforts, because of how apathetic Sidious is.
@@ryanconnolly1950 true, he also actively downplayed Tyranus to Vader because of the animosity he'd fostered between the two and to lower Vader's own fears of being discarded like Tyranus.
You forgot to mention what most people overlook also is that Dooku had an alt motive in that he wanted to avenge Qui gon, bring down the sith and jedi both conclusively. Jedi and the republic were corrupt after all
@@halo091 you are partly correct. Dooku did intend to eventually avenge Qui Gon...at least he did initially. After he saw first hand how far above him in power Palpatine was and that he was also twenty years older than Palpatine those plans got put on indefinite hold. Dooku did want to destroy and replace the Jedi Order with a new Sith version of it(likely a version of what later became the Inquisitors)
@Mackenzie Bauroth I'm afraid your conclusion, while passionate is completely unfounded in facts. Dooku was not defeated or even concerned in the duel on Tatooine, both combatants disarmed each other without greatly affecting the duel so Tyranus falling down a dune does not mean Anakin had the upper hand as a similar incident happened to Anakin in the same duel. The duel on Naboo was with the express intent of capturing Anakin alive and intact to exchange for Grievous, Tyranus holds back and barely engages him save to incapacitate Anakin at the end. Again this is a mark in Tyranus favor that he is fighting a limited battle against an opponent who is actively trying to kill him. The second duel on Naboo likewise shows Tyranus following the plan to test, not kill Anakin as if you watch the Count's retreat it is not frantic but paced and controlled, when Anakin chokes him he then escalates and throws him back with Force lightning. You also are selective in your examples not accounting for the duel among the Pykes where Tyranus with relative ease deals with both Obi Wan and Anakin, accomplished his mission and escaped making a fool out of Anakin-which was always his ordered intent, embarrass and hurt Anakin to push him closer to the Dark Side, never to kill him. Again that Tyranus did this for years against a skilled Jedi duelist that was trying to kill him speaks to his skill, not against it. Further you forget that the conversation Palpatine has with Vader is specifically to reassure Vader he wouldn't be replaced like Tyranus. So he purposely downplayed Tyranus to Vader and since Vader had an active grudge against Dooku that makes sense. Palpatine is telling Vader what he wants to hear. Maul was never anything more than a skilled animal that followed Sidious like a dog without his own ambitions as an apprentice.
Reading the plageuis book, palpatine never masters the aBility to manipulate life nearly as effectively as plageuis along with plenty of sith history and techniques. Plageuis had gathered dozens if not hundreds of holocrons on his moon base. they were nuked by the hutts and destroyed because of some disagreement. By killing plaqeuis and not teaching anyone the things he learned he ended the vast knowledge of the history of the sith. Palpatine was the worst sith Lord imo.
Anakin is the most powerful in the force midichlorian-wise but palpatine was the most adept at manipulating the force for destruction but also he was more interested in being an evil dictator than fuckin people up most of the time
@@lillofi canon palpatine:absolutely. Legends palpatine: depends on the scenario and time period. Late empire legends sidious could create force storms from orbit on a planet and teleport people with the force.
"Plagueius had taught him everything", except for immortality. Palpatine kinda jumped the gun, there, but I think he did it because he knew he wouldn't ever have any other opportunity to kill him.
@@khaliqmuhammad5325 If they both had immortality then Palpatine would have been to Plagueis like Vader was to him. A glorified puppet. He wouldn't have the strenth to kill Plagueis and Plagueis may have eventually forced him to battle with Dooku , Grievous, Maul for the 'right' to be his apprentice. Then he most likely would have thrown him away in favour of Anakin much like the Emperor did to his apprentices and tried to do to Vader in the main timeline. Palpatine knew this would most likely be the only opportunity to kill Plagueis and so he took him out lol.
@@himum3429 Plagueis never saw Maul as anything but Palpatine's puppet, and similarly just wanted to use Dooku as a tool to bring down the Republic. He trained Palpatine for 30 odd years, saw them both as ruling side by side
You forgot to mention how Plagueis did more than just introduce Dooku to Palpatine. He's the one who saw Dooku's doubts about the Jedi Order and the Republic and began manipulating him to the Darkside. It was through his friendship with Dooku that Plagueis became aware of Anakin Skywalker, who in turn informed his own apprentice about the powerful force wielding child. Also, Plagueis is the one who manipulated Sifo Dyas to place the order for the clone army, using finances offered by the secret Sith Lord, to pay for it.
I mean not his own finances no he just told sifo dyas to bill it to the republic which is why they almost went bankrupt and lost a lot of care services that they used to be able to provide for people, Plagueis did manipulate the clone army to be made but quite literally told sifo to say “bill it to the republic”
@@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk the whole plan was to bill it to the republic.. Plagueis did not have the means to fund the clone army under any circumstances especially if it almost bankrupted the republic itself which was the richest and biggest faction in the galaxy
@@nameynamename3758 agreed its not that he is human supremacist especially taking the role of head of state while palagius stayed in the background, it was just that humans were more well regarded if anything the republic is human supremacist and like all things like this palpatine just exploited this inequality
@@nameynamename3758 He was. He was more of a humanoid supremacist. If a species does not exhibit humanoid traits, both he and Plagueis were prejudiced against non-humanoid species, and viewed them as inferior. They also believed they needed to guide the "sheep" and create a new Sith Empire. In short, he was a supremacist, but not strictly a human one.
Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Star Wars Legends? I thought not, it's not a story Disney will tell you. Well, there used to be a different continuity surrounding the franchise, especially during the Clone Wars era. It became so popular among the fans that the only thing they feared was losing it to another cannon, which of course, they eventually did when Disney took over. lol. In all seriousness a lot of the new canon has been pretty good, the Characterization of the Clones, Asoka, Ezra and Kenan, Jei Fallen Order, the return of Darth Maul, and so on, but we did lose some other good stories too.
I'm glad you are reasonable about Canon vs Legends. It seems like people needlessly sh** on canon at times,while legends had some great stuff but some stuff was just awful E.g The Jedi Prince novels.
The new trilogy just didn't take any of the ample opportunities they had before them. There's so much content they could have worked with. Like Mara, to name one critical character. So many things should have been done differently. It's a real shame.
“I didn't mean to suggest that the Republic is purposely depriving the outlying systems of the right to self-determination. I'm merely speculating, because I see a growing threat.” - Darth Plagueis
@@Cynthiex considering that quotes like this often give us insight into a character's mind, are you sure you actually care about the lore? No one is stopping you from scrolling past this comment and making one of your own.
I just got done listening to the audiobook version of "Darth Plagueis" (Strongly recommend reading or listening to this amazing book. The narrator and production are so good in the audiobook version. ) and he has become one of my favorite Sith characters. He was so confident and intelligent. He was always one step ahead of his enemies (Until Darth Sidious who he considered an ally, and the one person he didn't suspect to betray him, leading to his death) Really interesting life story. I only wish we had more material on him to absorb.
Very nice video and all. Only one problem. Maul died before plagueis. Plagueis was even surprised that he managed to kill a jedi master. The ripple in the force sidious felt afterwards was not because of maul's death. It was because plagueis was reaching from the realm of "chaos" to try to come back. An attempt that eventually did not come to fruition. Ironic. He could save others from death but not himself.
Sith draw their power from strong emotions and passions. Darth Plagueis's rage sprung from the artists' inability to decide what his nose was supposed to look like. Imagine a Flynn Ryder who went down a darker path, and there you are.
“I’ve never heard of Darth Plaguis the wise. The Imperials don’t really allow much of the Sith history to be public knowledge. Neither did the Jedi, though.” -ARF/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
I wasn't aware Plagieus was alive all the way until the day Palpatine became chancellor (almost most of Ep 1). Would make for a very interesting show if Disney were to cover this aspect - What Palps did before becoming supreme chancellor. Disney have covered all the other aspects including starting of clone wars, the clone wars (via the show), Rise of the empire (ROTS), the rebellion (Rebels and 4-6) and new republic (7-9 and Mandalorian).
I feel like we should of had plagueis appear in phantom menace with how crucial he was in the long run. Even a short line like mentioning something about kamino or a republic army would of been cool.
The movie was written and released before Lucas probably came up with Darth Plagueis. If you read the James Luceno novel about Palpatine, they kind of ret con Plagueis into the events of the Phantom Menace.
That would require the Prequels to have actually been planned out in advance. If that had happened, Count Dooku might've actually been important in either of the two movies he was in.
That’s wild. I didn’t know plagues was still around for that long during the phantom menace and all the behind the scenes of the sith grand plan including the creation of the clone army make sense now
The real question is who did Darth Plaguis care about to keep from dying? Not himself because well Palpatine said so and also said he could keep "the ones" he cared about. So there multiple people who plaugis kept from dying. Who were they?
test subjects, mainly another sith rival aprentice potential from his old master, was held in a tank and endlessly killed/ressurected over and over in plagueis experimentation on making mideclorians obey his command, rather than the background force
Well, palpatine did tell his master when he was killing him that he was far to trusting to palpatine and he was. He intended to keep both of them alive forever. So in a way....palpatine.
You say that both Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious attempted to influence the midichlorians to create life.. But wasn't it Darth Plagueis who attempted to create life without Darth Sidious's knowledge after they had tipped the scales of balance (of the force) in favor of the Sith? And he then felt overly confident in his powers that he tried creating life if I'm not mistaken.. I could be remembering the story wrong but I'm pretty sure that is how it went down.
I don't know why everyone thinks that Plagueis died in his sleep. The guy literally stood up and *invited* Palpatine to attack him again because he was certain Palpatine either wouldn't be able to kill him or he would be able to ressurect himself using the Force. It's a small detail, yeah, but I think it really speaks volumes about Plagueis' own power and abilities. It's also a pretty important stage for Palpatine as well, because he doesn't just kill Plaguies, he utterly dominates him by using lightning and force choke, showing how powerful he actually was to kill his master not just through surprising him with force lightning, but by actually taking the time to slowly toy with Plagueis.
sorry this is a year late, but personally I think the reason most people think Plagueis died in his sleep is just the movie dialogue sticking in people's minds. It's become iconic that even some of those who know the full story of it still revert to the movie details, sometimes just because of the meme of it lol
He got him drunk and took advantage of his obsession to not die. He's playing chess not dark Lord. Vader should be the true sith Lord, he was just held back
@@Blessed_V0id not entirely either, when plagueis falls asleep in the book palpatine literally stands up and is about to go to his appartment then while standing near the door senses the dark side like it's telling him that this is his only moment, turns around and starts killing his master. It was not a thought out plan. Sidious claims that he was manipulating plagueis all this time but he clearly wasn't. If you read the book you read from the pov of sidious for a good chunk as well and he clearly wasn't manipulating plagueis. Nothing supports that. When he was killing plagueis it was just ego and being power drunk when he suddenly claimed to have been manipulating plagueis and pretending like he was always going to kill him and that he was the true mastermind behind plagueis's own thoughts all along.
I've been listening to the audiobook and it's amazing just hearing about his time as the sith master. It's really peak star wars material. He kept no secrets between him and Palpatine since he thought they would be the last ever sith. And just keep each other alive by healing each other.
4:43 this is false. The ceiling was already collapsing. Plagueis used his power to manipulate the falling rocks, making them crash down upon his master.
Decent summary of the Plaugeis novel for those not familiar with the story. For those that have not read the Plaugeis novel, I highly suggest you check it out.
Isn't it weird that he even had loved ones to protect from death? Maybe it was more like he held his victims painfully alive after cutting them into pieces. But who knows, maybe he actually was a good father and husband and being sith for him was more like a 9 to 17 job.
Im noticing a common theme of the Sith . They always kill each other Or the next gen kills the previous. And there's this hole dark side trap thing that many who join with sith always fall into . Its so sad .
It is weird to hear "The Sith" do anything, when it was just a handful of "true" Sith at the time, who were smart enough to infiltrate the realms of the rich and powerful. You would think it was a secret organization, which I suppose it was a secret, but the organization was really a pair of Sith following the Rule of Two. That is to a degree, because of course Sith are not going to respect the idea of passing down your legacy, or having your successors earn it.
4:48 I don’t understand how that works. “Dark Lord of the Sith” is just a title, he could have just killed him and took the title. You see this with the Jedi and it’s sub secs too. Now if that title had literal power to it like a transfer of life force, knowledge, or sharpening of senses then that would be different but as it is that isn’t the case. Like the title of Master Jedi is given to those individuals who has accumulated vast amounts of knowledge on the force and has a strong enough will to survive that transfer intact both physically and mentally. A knight who isn’t as knowledgeable and as strong willed will be killed during the process. This will also explain why Luke was able to rebuild the Jedi order from scratch as Yada was the Grand Master of the Jedi with all the lore, practice and training of all positions in the Jedi Order.
Perhaps it was just an attempt to humiliate Tenebrous. Or maybe Plagueis wanted Tenebrous to pass it on to him verbally because it wouldn't have felt "proper" otherwise. Alternatively it might've just been a brief oversight by the author.
About a year late but, and I'm not sure which you've covered any already, here are some ideas for Sith: 1. Darth Maul: Disney Timeline 2. Darths Bane and Zannah: Mostly Legends since the DT hasn't given us much on them. 3. Naga Sadow: The guy responsible for the Great Hyperspace War. May or may not be part of the DT via the Qel-Droma Epics... 4. Darth Lumiya: Luke's crazy ex turned Sith. 5. Darth Anddedu: The guy who apparently discovered Essence Transfer in the first place. 6. Ajunta Pall: Instigator of the Hundred Year Darkness and founder of the Sith Order.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.
You should do an episode on Valkorian, I think his story is one of the craziest and most interesting in all of Star Wars! He literally sucked the life out of an entire planet and all the living things on it... so insane
I loved reading that book. I think I had it finished the fastest out of all SW books, cause of the connections to the prequels. I would love to see this a s movie! The story is written and I do not understand why Lucasfilm doesnt just make it :/ Or release it as few 30 minutes long episodes if they fear that it would not get enough attention to be a cinema movie.
it is widely believed that by the time of Sheve's election to chancellor he was already fixed on anakin but couldn't move overtly so he let the jedi train him all the while slowly converting him and using his placeholder apprentice to finish the grand plan. leading to Sheeve forming the empire gaining the perfect apprentice and annihilating the jedi in one night.
Just wait sometime in the future Disney Lucasfilm will put out a book saying that Palpatine was a perfect clone of Tenebrus from an alternative universe and it will be revealed that the entire concept of Reylo was part of Pleaguses grand plan
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you, or anyone else for that matter since I'm the only one who knows it.
It would be sick to have this in a series. Disney needs to get their shit together on star wars. They should run a series with the expanded legends lore. They would be able able to focuse on different characters per episode and even do multiple episodes on a character/characters.
0:49 I got that shit on a hoodie bro I thats my holy script. I'm seriously contemplating going to peoples doors in a short sleeved dress shirt w a neck tie and some glasses asking people "have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?"
Did you heard of the tragedy that Reach the Man? I think to be too is not I think that the hopeless situation elder also can’t. That is a legend. Reaching the Man cloth space is the emperor. He is so strong and big he even can use the original dint to create… life. He is very deep to black influence understand. The black influence can the matter that many supermans, but other people thinks that these are what can’t attains. He become more and more strong and big. Lost his power afterwards, afterwards he died. In fact he teaches own the whole skills all to disciple. Then his land killed him to let him going to bed. Satirizing… the meaning is he can let other people, but is incapable for dint to the oneself.
Wait a minute. I thought that Palpatine killed Plagueis on the night that he was promoted to the Chancellor of the Senate? Yes, Plagueis still died the same way, getting too drunk and then starting to pass out and then BOOM, force lighting from Palpatine. Or, did that whole thing get retconned?
@@Crip99763 He was. But deep down he was pure evil to the core. He even forced Palpatine to kill his entire family and also mind-controlled one of his play-mates to commit suicide. Not to mention he also did numerous unethical experimentations using his midi-chlorian manipulations.
It's cool that Palplatine killed Plagueis during the course of The Phantom Menace. It would be cool if there was a deleted scene or something with that happening, but I understand why Lucas didn't include that in the film..
I love Darth Plagueis. Top three is the following: first is the greatest emperor Darth Vitiate, second is Darth Plagueis the wise and third is Darth Bane the Sithari.
I think if Disney would’ve had Plageious would’ve transferred his essence to Darth Jar Jar which would’ve kept the original plan for Jar Jar to be a Sith Lord that ends up biding his time in the shadows to take over after the fall of the empire. He could’ve even taken Maul back on as his own apprentice. Which the Sith stopped the rule of 2 which allowed Maul to have his own apprentice Talon that would’ve followed closely to Lucas’s original plan for the trilogy.
Off topic but with or without vapaad like windu , HE SHOULD HAVE HAD PURPLE BLADED LIGHTSABER to show he stands out like Windu or Revan not gold or orange PURPLE
4:50 "After getting Tennebrous to pass the title of Dark Lord of the Sith to him...". What does that even mean? Is it a traditional rite of the Master to the Apprentice while the apprentice is actively killing him? Is it some magical or Force thing? First time I've ever heard of this.
Dar5th Plagueis is a Sith legend... I have a problem with this phrase because it's made to sound like it's something that happened a long time ago and many people know of it. BUT it's just a few decades and there's only been 3 Sith since him. I can only assume that it was deliberate phrasing by Palatine to hide how he got the knowledge.
Not sure if him being ignored and thus forgotten by the galaxy many decades after his death is a good thing or a bad thing, I must say. If good, that means he never got his fame and fortunes by way of having a prestigious and named legacy for years to come (being ultimately forgotten is a far worser fate than death, as works like The Book of Life and Coco have shown us). If bad, that means he will never get due justice and damnation against his secret crimes and atrocities from the masses as a whole (the Karma Houdini trope is one of my least favorite tropes).
Ik so glad you covered Darth PLAGUEIS.. Ive read and listened to rhis book 100X. NO TRUE SITH WOULD.EVER WISH TO BE CURED OF THE DARKSIDE.. Palpatine" THERE IS NO.WAY BUT MY WAY, NO TRUE SITH COULD EVER CARE FOR ANOTHER. ITS A SHAME REALLY THE POWER TO SAVE OTHERS FROM DEAth but. DIDNT LEAVE A SPOT FOR HIMSELF.! TEACHER YES AND FOR THAT IM GF OE THAT IM GRATEFUL, BUT MATSER...NEVER-!
Dooku is very overlooked. He was absolutely pivotal as Sidious apprentice, he was able to use his wealth, charisma, and reputation to avoid any suspicion of his true motives and unite the disparate factions of discontent into a true threat. He came up with the plan that recruited Jango Fett, he personally recruited and trained Ventress and Grievous, he caused a schism in the Jedi Order making many abandon it for his teachings. He also helped fund part of the GAR and indeed placed the order for it under Syfos Dyas name and erased the Archives pertaining to Kamino. He was also instrumental in pushing Anakin closer to the Dark Side(and indeed held back from killing Anakin on multiple occasions(much to his later regret i am sure)
Without Dooku as Tyranus, Sidious likely never could have achieved control as thoroughly as he did.
The crazy part though is that though while what so say is true, Sidious would never both recognize AND appreciate Tyranus's efforts, because of how apathetic Sidious is.
@@ryanconnolly1950 true, he also actively downplayed Tyranus to Vader because of the animosity he'd fostered between the two and to lower Vader's own fears of being discarded like Tyranus.
You forgot to mention what most people overlook also is that Dooku had an alt motive in that he wanted to avenge Qui gon, bring down the sith and jedi both conclusively. Jedi and the republic were corrupt after all
@@halo091 you are partly correct. Dooku did intend to eventually avenge Qui Gon...at least he did initially. After he saw first hand how far above him in power Palpatine was and that he was also twenty years older than Palpatine those plans got put on indefinite hold. Dooku did want to destroy and replace the Jedi Order with a new Sith version of it(likely a version of what later became the Inquisitors)
@Mackenzie Bauroth I'm afraid your conclusion, while passionate is completely unfounded in facts. Dooku was not defeated or even concerned in the duel on Tatooine, both combatants disarmed each other without greatly affecting the duel so Tyranus falling down a dune does not mean Anakin had the upper hand as a similar incident happened to Anakin in the same duel. The duel on Naboo was with the express intent of capturing Anakin alive and intact to exchange for Grievous, Tyranus holds back and barely engages him save to incapacitate Anakin at the end. Again this is a mark in Tyranus favor that he is fighting a limited battle against an opponent who is actively trying to kill him. The second duel on Naboo likewise shows Tyranus following the plan to test, not kill Anakin as if you watch the Count's retreat it is not frantic but paced and controlled, when Anakin chokes him he then escalates and throws him back with Force lightning. You also are selective in your examples not accounting for the duel among the Pykes where Tyranus with relative ease deals with both Obi Wan and Anakin, accomplished his mission and escaped making a fool out of Anakin-which was always his ordered intent, embarrass and hurt Anakin to push him closer to the Dark Side, never to kill him. Again that Tyranus did this for years against a skilled Jedi duelist that was trying to kill him speaks to his skill, not against it.
Further you forget that the conversation Palpatine has with Vader is specifically to reassure Vader he wouldn't be replaced like Tyranus. So he purposely downplayed Tyranus to Vader and since Vader had an active grudge against Dooku that makes sense. Palpatine is telling Vader what he wants to hear.
Maul was never anything more than a skilled animal that followed Sidious like a dog without his own ambitions as an apprentice.
Reading the plageuis book, palpatine never masters the aBility to manipulate life nearly as effectively as plageuis along with plenty of sith history and techniques. Plageuis had gathered dozens if not hundreds of holocrons on his moon base. they were nuked by the hutts and destroyed because of some disagreement. By killing plaqeuis and not teaching anyone the things he learned he ended the vast knowledge of the history of the sith. Palpatine was the worst sith Lord imo.
Still the most powerful though
Naw Vader is he actively got rid of them
Anakin is the most powerful in the force midichlorian-wise but palpatine was the most adept at manipulating the force for destruction but also he was more interested in being an evil dictator than fuckin people up most of the time
Private Dexter Grif Ancient Sith Lords would demolish Sidious aka Palpatine.
@@lillofi canon palpatine:absolutely. Legends palpatine: depends on the scenario and time period. Late empire legends sidious could create force storms from orbit on a planet and teleport people with the force.
When Palpatine is scared to face him in a fair fight you better shiver if this guy ever comes back xD
Raiden SSJV wasn’t Plagueis afraid to fight his master in a fair fight💀
@@immaasshole4964 ooo you right plaguies killed his master while he was distracted
Old man Sidious is way more powerful.
@@placeholdername3818 Now yes, but back then not really.
@@sneakytaze5336
Sidious back then: "I'm too weak"
Sidious now: "UNLIMITED POWER!!!"
"Plagueius had taught him everything", except for immortality. Palpatine kinda jumped the gun, there, but I think he did it because he knew he wouldn't ever have any other opportunity to kill him.
I mean what choice did palpatine have it was either play second fiddle to plagueis for the rest of his life or pop a can in plagueis’s ass
If he taught him immortality then he would’ve had all the time inna world
@@khaliqmuhammad5325 If they both had immortality then Palpatine would have been to Plagueis like Vader was to him. A glorified puppet. He wouldn't have the strenth to kill Plagueis and Plagueis may have eventually forced him to battle with Dooku , Grievous, Maul for the 'right' to be his apprentice. Then he most likely would have thrown him away in favour of Anakin much like the Emperor did to his apprentices and tried to do to Vader in the main timeline. Palpatine knew this would most likely be the only opportunity to kill Plagueis and so he took him out lol.
@@himum3429 Plagueis never saw Maul as anything but Palpatine's puppet, and similarly just wanted to use Dooku as a tool to bring down the Republic.
He trained Palpatine for 30 odd years, saw them both as ruling side by side
You forgot to mention how Plagueis did more than just introduce Dooku to Palpatine. He's the one who saw Dooku's doubts about the Jedi Order and the Republic and began manipulating him to the Darkside. It was through his friendship with Dooku that Plagueis became aware of Anakin Skywalker, who in turn informed his own apprentice about the powerful force wielding child. Also, Plagueis is the one who manipulated Sifo Dyas to place the order for the clone army, using finances offered by the secret Sith Lord, to pay for it.
@Will B. That part in the comic was just a dream, not real
I mean not his own finances no he just told sifo dyas to bill it to the republic which is why they almost went bankrupt and lost a lot of care services that they used to be able to provide for people, Plagueis did manipulate the clone army to be made but quite literally told sifo to say “bill it to the republic”
@@IzDeninskovich no, he said he was willing to fund it.
@@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk the whole plan was to bill it to the republic.. Plagueis did not have the means to fund the clone army under any circumstances especially if it almost bankrupted the republic itself which was the richest and biggest faction in the galaxy
I always found it funny that Palpatine was a "human supremacist" yet learned everything he knew from a non human....
He was only a human supremacist because he himself is human and the narrative helped him seed divisions among the galactic cultures.
@@NecrosAcolyte I don't think he is a human supremacist at all.
@@nameynamename3758 agreed its not that he is human supremacist especially taking the role of head of state while palagius stayed in the background, it was just that humans were more well regarded if anything the republic is human supremacist and like all things like this palpatine just exploited this inequality
@@MrPepziii Even ignoring Plageuis, I think Palpatine is above that. He's a Sidious supremacist.
@@nameynamename3758 He was. He was more of a humanoid supremacist. If a species does not exhibit humanoid traits, both he and Plagueis were prejudiced against non-humanoid species, and viewed them as inferior. They also believed they needed to guide the "sheep" and create a new Sith Empire. In short, he was a supremacist, but not strictly a human one.
Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Star Wars Legends? I thought not, it's not a story Disney will tell you. Well, there used to be a different continuity surrounding the franchise, especially during the Clone Wars era. It became so popular among the fans that the only thing they feared was losing it to another cannon, which of course, they eventually did when Disney took over.
lol.
In all seriousness a lot of the new canon has been pretty good, the Characterization of the Clones, Asoka, Ezra and Kenan, Jei Fallen Order, the return of Darth Maul, and so on, but we did lose some other good stories too.
Starkiller being one of them :D
I'm glad you are reasonable about Canon vs Legends. It seems like people needlessly sh** on canon at times,while legends had some great stuff but some stuff was just awful E.g The Jedi Prince novels.
*ahsoka
*Jedi
The new trilogy just didn't take any of the ample opportunities they had before them. There's so much content they could have worked with. Like Mara, to name one critical character. So many things should have been done differently. It's a real shame.
@@kenjisor you missed Kanan***
Have you ever heard the story of The jedi temple children?
Probably not, Cause Anakin cut that story off early.
Now everything makes sense, he was a banker.
A Jew
@@AnusRipper-2000 the only one I like.
“I didn't mean to suggest that the Republic is purposely depriving the outlying systems of the right to self-determination. I'm merely speculating, because I see a growing threat.”
- Darth Plagueis
This whole dynamic of inner worlds vs outer worlds is fascinating
I'm pretty sure I see you on every star wars video
Jaela Aurelius stop commenting quotes no one cares for that shit we just care for the story and the lore just quit
Cynthie x if no one cares why do you have to go out of your way to comment that no one cares?
@@Cynthiex considering that quotes like this often give us insight into a character's mind, are you sure you actually care about the lore?
No one is stopping you from scrolling past this comment and making one of your own.
You started with the meme. I love you.
I just got done listening to the audiobook version of "Darth Plagueis" (Strongly recommend reading or listening to this amazing book. The narrator and production are so good in the audiobook version. ) and he has become one of my favorite Sith characters. He was so confident and intelligent. He was always one step ahead of his enemies (Until Darth Sidious who he considered an ally, and the one person he didn't suspect to betray him, leading to his death) Really interesting life story. I only wish we had more material on him to absorb.
Very nice video and all. Only one problem. Maul died before plagueis. Plagueis was even surprised that he managed to kill a jedi master. The ripple in the force sidious felt afterwards was not because of maul's death. It was because plagueis was reaching from the realm of "chaos" to try to come back. An attempt that eventually did not come to fruition. Ironic. He could save others from death but not himself.
Sith draw their power from strong emotions and passions. Darth Plagueis's rage sprung from the artists' inability to decide what his nose was supposed to look like. Imagine a Flynn Ryder who went down a darker path, and there you are.
“With his hand...and the force”
“I’ve never heard of Darth Plaguis the wise. The Imperials don’t really allow much of the Sith history to be public knowledge. Neither did the Jedi, though.” -ARF/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
You mean the legacy of Plagueis, Tenebrous, Gean, Cognus, Zannah and finally Bane. because he continued what Bane started after Ruusan.
Including the 20+ Sith Lords of the rule of 2, who’s names and stories are still left untold.
You forgot gravid
@@lsufan6981 oops
vitor kennedy Also Darth Vectivus
@@coggnus9656 Him too.
Plagueis could of just ignored the jedi and done his own thing.
Why?
He also could have done that.
I wasn't aware Plagieus was alive all the way until the day Palpatine became chancellor (almost most of Ep 1). Would make for a very interesting show if Disney were to cover this aspect - What Palps did before becoming supreme chancellor. Disney have covered all the other aspects including starting of clone wars, the clone wars (via the show), Rise of the empire (ROTS), the rebellion (Rebels and 4-6) and new republic (7-9 and Mandalorian).
Do one on Darth Millennial, the bane of Jedi boomers.
This is comment of the millennia. Golden
I never realised that Plagueis was alive during episode 1. I always assumed he had died like 50 years prior
even tenebrous died only 30ish yrs before phantom menace
Cosinga to Plagueis: Don't talk to me, or my son again
I feel like we should of had plagueis appear in phantom menace with how crucial he was in the long run. Even a short line like mentioning something about kamino or a republic army would of been cool.
The movie was written and released before Lucas probably came up with Darth Plagueis.
If you read the James Luceno novel about Palpatine, they kind of ret con Plagueis into the events of the Phantom Menace.
Btw there's a scene in Tpm where a muun cam be seen next to sidious. We all know this is a coincidence yet I still always tell myself this is plagueis
That would require the Prequels to have actually been planned out in advance. If that had happened, Count Dooku might've actually been important in either of the two movies he was in.
Kiyan Hakim I think that’s how they chose his species in the first place
That’s wild. I didn’t know plagues was still around for that long during the phantom menace and all the behind the scenes of the sith grand plan including the creation of the clone army make sense now
Wish we could if seen plagueis on screen also it’s kind of amazing he minipulated sifo Diaz to make the clone army
He didn't. Dooku just placed the order in Syfo Dias' name.
Depending on which fan theories you believe he was in all three of the prequels.
The real question is who did Darth Plaguis care about to keep from dying? Not himself because well Palpatine said so and also said he could keep "the ones" he cared about. So there multiple people who plaugis kept from dying. Who were they?
test subjects, mainly another sith rival aprentice potential from his old master, was held in a tank and endlessly killed/ressurected over and over in plagueis experimentation on making mideclorians obey his command, rather than the background force
Well, palpatine did tell his master when he was killing him that he was far to trusting to palpatine and he was. He intended to keep both of them alive forever. So in a way....palpatine.
2:36 named him darth plajis?
Its Plagueis. Like a plague. The G makes a 'guh" sound. Sorry im nitpicking
You say that both Darth Plagueis and Darth Sidious attempted to influence the midichlorians to create life..
But wasn't it Darth Plagueis who attempted to create life without Darth Sidious's knowledge after they had tipped the scales of balance (of the force) in favor of the Sith? And he then felt overly confident in his powers that he tried creating life if I'm not mistaken..
I could be remembering the story wrong but I'm pretty sure that is how it went down.
Wait, so Anakin was made by Darth Plaugis and Palpitine?
yes
Plagueis wanted to make a being of pure dark side-yness. But the force said no and randomly made a light side kid instead
Casey Harrington then Palpatine said no u to the force and turned Anakin to the dark side
@@goaliejoe5923 and then the Force said no again and Vader killed Palpatine
@@PeteTemplar101 then palpitine said no and came back
Does anybody else want another Darth Plaguies book?
I don't know why everyone thinks that Plagueis died in his sleep.
The guy literally stood up and *invited* Palpatine to attack him again because he was certain Palpatine either wouldn't be able to kill him or he would be able to ressurect himself using the Force. It's a small detail, yeah, but I think it really speaks volumes about Plagueis' own power and abilities. It's also a pretty important stage for Palpatine as well, because he doesn't just kill Plaguies, he utterly dominates him by using lightning and force choke, showing how powerful he actually was to kill his master not just through surprising him with force lightning, but by actually taking the time to slowly toy with Plagueis.
sorry this is a year late, but personally I think the reason most people think Plagueis died in his sleep is just the movie dialogue sticking in people's minds. It's become iconic that even some of those who know the full story of it still revert to the movie details, sometimes just because of the meme of it lol
He got him drunk and took advantage of his obsession to not die. He's playing chess not dark Lord. Vader should be the true sith Lord, he was just held back
@@Blessed_V0id not entirely either, when plagueis falls asleep in the book palpatine literally stands up and is about to go to his appartment then while standing near the door senses the dark side like it's telling him that this is his only moment, turns around and starts killing his master. It was not a thought out plan. Sidious claims that he was manipulating plagueis all this time but he clearly wasn't. If you read the book you read from the pov of sidious for a good chunk as well and he clearly wasn't manipulating plagueis. Nothing supports that. When he was killing plagueis it was just ego and being power drunk when he suddenly claimed to have been manipulating plagueis and pretending like he was always going to kill him and that he was the true mastermind behind plagueis's own thoughts all along.
I've been listening to the audiobook and it's amazing just hearing about his time as the sith master. It's really peak star wars material. He kept no secrets between him and Palpatine since he thought they would be the last ever sith. And just keep each other alive by healing each other.
4:43 this is false. The ceiling was already collapsing. Plagueis used his power to manipulate the falling rocks, making them crash down upon his master.
Decent summary of the Plaugeis novel for those not familiar with the story. For those that have not read the Plaugeis novel, I highly suggest you check it out.
5:40 lol he used Alan Rickman’s judge Turpin picture from Sweeney Todd.
Isn't it weird that he even had loved ones to protect from death? Maybe it was more like he held his victims painfully alive after cutting them into pieces. But who knows, maybe he actually was a good father and husband and being sith for him was more like a 9 to 17 job.
Im noticing a common theme of the Sith .
They always kill each other
Or the next gen kills the previous.
And there's this hole dark side trap thing that many who join with sith always fall into .
Its so sad .
When he started with “Have you ever the Tragedy of Darth Pleguise the wise” I Inmediately proceded to smash the like button 100000 times.
7:22 Love the injured Damask art. Here’s hoping The Acolyte incorporates some of this stuff.
Plagueis: We shaw work as partners and keep nothing secret.
Palpatine: *OK Boomer*
Pretty sure Darth Plagueis' plan was to make an army of Yoda clones 🙃
It is weird to hear "The Sith" do anything, when it was just a handful of "true" Sith at the time, who were smart enough to infiltrate the realms of the rich and powerful. You would think it was a secret organization, which I suppose it was a secret, but the organization was really a pair of Sith following the Rule of Two. That is to a degree, because of course Sith are not going to respect the idea of passing down your legacy, or having your successors earn it.
4:48 I don’t understand how that works. “Dark Lord of the Sith” is just a title, he could have just killed him and took the title. You see this with the Jedi and it’s sub secs too.
Now if that title had literal power to it like a transfer of life force, knowledge, or sharpening of senses then that would be different but as it is that isn’t the case. Like the title of Master Jedi is given to those individuals who has accumulated vast amounts of knowledge on the force and has a strong enough will to survive that transfer intact both physically and mentally. A knight who isn’t as knowledgeable and as strong willed will be killed during the process.
This will also explain why Luke was able to rebuild the Jedi order from scratch as Yada was the Grand Master of the Jedi with all the lore, practice and training of all positions in the Jedi Order.
Perhaps it was just an attempt to humiliate Tenebrous. Or maybe Plagueis wanted Tenebrous to pass it on to him verbally because it wouldn't have felt "proper" otherwise.
Alternatively it might've just been a brief oversight by the author.
About a year late but, and I'm not sure which you've covered any already, here are some ideas for Sith:
1. Darth Maul: Disney Timeline
2. Darths Bane and Zannah: Mostly Legends since the DT hasn't given us much on them.
3. Naga Sadow: The guy responsible for the Great Hyperspace War. May or may not be part of the DT via the Qel-Droma Epics...
4. Darth Lumiya: Luke's crazy ex turned Sith.
5. Darth Anddedu: The guy who apparently discovered Essence Transfer in the first place.
6. Ajunta Pall: Instigator of the Hundred Year Darkness and founder of the Sith Order.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.
I'm so happy he did the whole story
You should do an episode on Valkorian, I think his story is one of the craziest and most interesting in all of Star Wars! He literally sucked the life out of an entire planet and all the living things on it... so insane
What do you say when someone asks what you do and you're the pupil of a Sith Lord?
"I'm an accountant"
I'd love to see them make an animated series about Palpatine and Plaguies. Then show Palpatines rise to sith-hood.
The Muun the Sith the Legend I love that XD
Palpatine was a bad ass and I'd like to see a series about him and the origins of Plagueis. It seems like it be gangsta' as hell.
You know.... the art piece convinced me. I'd still watch Star Wars if Alan Rickman was cast as Sidious.
R.I.P
"I guarantee all of you have heard this at least once"
...yes at least once per star wars comment section
I loved reading that book. I think I had it finished the fastest out of all SW books, cause of the connections to the prequels. I would love to see this a s movie! The story is written and I do not understand why Lucasfilm doesnt just make it :/ Or release it as few 30 minutes long episodes if they fear that it would not get enough attention to be a cinema movie.
This needs to be made into a series.
Tfw you repeat the scene verbatim along with Geetsly without skipping a beat.
it is widely believed that by the time of Sheve's election to chancellor he was already fixed on anakin but couldn't move overtly so he let the jedi train him all the while slowly converting him and using his placeholder apprentice to finish the grand plan. leading to Sheeve forming the empire gaining the perfect apprentice and annihilating the jedi in one night.
PLEASE do one about Darth Vitiate.
Just wait sometime in the future Disney Lucasfilm will put out a book saying that Palpatine was a perfect clone of Tenebrus from an alternative universe and it will be revealed that the entire concept of Reylo was part of Pleaguses grand plan
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you, or anyone else for that matter since I'm the only one who knows it.
It would be sick to have this in a series.
Disney needs to get their shit together on star wars. They should run a series with the expanded legends lore. They would be able able to focuse on different characters per episode and even do multiple episodes on a character/characters.
Here's hoping they change the species of plagueis
@@EternalEmperorofZakuulThey need to change nothing about plagueis. His character in the book is perfect
@@josephayers7395 but they likely might
@ValKKKorion If they do im gonna be so pissed
@@josephayers7395 yeah and in greater numbers
0:49 I got that shit on a hoodie bro I thats my holy script. I'm seriously contemplating going to peoples doors in a short sleeved dress shirt w a neck tie and some glasses asking people "have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?"
Did you heard of the tragedy that Reach the Man? I think to be too is not I think that the hopeless situation elder also can’t. That is a legend. Reaching the Man cloth space is the emperor. He is so strong and big he even can use the original dint to create… life. He is very deep to black influence understand. The black influence can the matter that many supermans, but other people thinks that these are what can’t attains.
He become more and more strong and big. Lost his power afterwards, afterwards he died. In fact he teaches own the whole skills all to disciple. Then his land killed him to let him going to bed. Satirizing… the meaning is he can let other people, but is incapable for dint to the oneself.
Plagueis is vital to the Star Wars universe
Wait a minute.
I thought that Palpatine killed Plagueis on the night that he was promoted to the Chancellor of the Senate?
Yes, Plagueis still died the same way, getting too drunk and then starting to pass out and then BOOM, force lighting from Palpatine.
Or, did that whole thing get retconned?
I partially feel that plaguis inspired the design of smoke...it would explain his streak of extravagance
Ah, remember when Snoke had potential?
Ive listen to this audiobook a dozen times, and im loving these images
I could definitely see Alan Rickman as Palpatine's father
Darth Plagueis is the greatest Sith of all time.
Fight me.
I heard that Plagueis in Legend was chill dude to hang out with
@@Crip99763 He was. But deep down he was pure evil to the core. He even forced Palpatine to kill his entire family and also mind-controlled one of his play-mates to commit suicide. Not to mention he also did numerous unethical experimentations using his midi-chlorian manipulations.
It's a shame they missed the opportunity to have plaguies as snoke
How could Darth Plageuis be a "legend" when he had only been dead 10 years?
I’m guessing Anakin didn’t know that at the time.
0:53 heard this at least once? I recite this to my friends on a daily basis
I like your channel because I feel like your channel is different then the others.
It's cool that Palplatine killed Plagueis during the course of The Phantom Menace. It would be cool if there was a deleted scene or something with that happening, but I understand why Lucas didn't include that in the film..
Darth plagueis has a great story, i hope it gets made into a movie.
Favorite voice of the star wars youtubers
That was a real good video. 2 thumbs up
So good! This needs to be a movie
plagueis was the foundation for palp for the clone wars
5:46 so snape is Palpatine's dad?
KEEP IT UP DONT STOP MAKEING THE VIDS!!!!!!!!
Geetsly: have you ever heard about the tragedy of darth plagues the wi-
Me who watched revenge of the sith:😨🥶
Darth venomous has to be the worst sith name ever
My like made the total go from 4.1k to 4.2k likes. Honestly, these videos are great and deserve more attention.
I love Darth Plagueis. Top three is the following: first is the greatest emperor Darth Vitiate, second is Darth Plagueis the wise and third is Darth Bane the Sithari.
@Anton Hallergren I don't believe you.
I think if Disney would’ve had Plageious would’ve transferred his essence to Darth Jar Jar which would’ve kept the original plan for Jar Jar to be a Sith Lord that ends up biding his time in the shadows to take over after the fall of the empire. He could’ve even taken Maul back on as his own apprentice. Which the Sith stopped the rule of 2 which allowed Maul to have his own apprentice Talon that would’ve followed closely to Lucas’s original plan for the trilogy.
Off topic but with or without vapaad like windu , HE SHOULD HAVE HAD PURPLE BLADED LIGHTSABER to show he stands out like Windu or Revan not gold or orange PURPLE
Everybody gangsta till geetlys tells you the story of darth plagues the wise
4:50 "After getting Tennebrous to pass the title of Dark Lord of the Sith to him...". What does that even mean? Is it a traditional rite of the Master to the Apprentice while the apprentice is actively killing him? Is it some magical or Force thing? First time I've ever heard of this.
Dar5th Plagueis is a Sith legend...
I have a problem with this phrase because it's made to sound like it's something that happened a long time ago and many people know of it. BUT it's just a few decades and there's only been 3 Sith since him.
I can only assume that it was deliberate phrasing by Palatine to hide how he got the knowledge.
The man was so fearful of death...guess he couldn't trust the force or something
You always post great content
Never knew when when palps killed his master was so close in time to when Maul was defeated by Obi Wan
My fav Sith. One of the most underrated forsure
The Clone Wars was among the most tragic prequel stories I know.
Finally, some content not everyone talk about
Not sure if him being ignored and thus forgotten by the galaxy many decades after his death is a good thing or a bad thing, I must say.
If good, that means he never got his fame and fortunes by way of having a prestigious and named legacy for years to come (being ultimately forgotten is a far worser fate than death, as works like The Book of Life and Coco have shown us). If bad, that means he will never get due justice and damnation against his secret crimes and atrocities from the masses as a whole (the Karma Houdini trope is one of my least favorite tropes).
Ik so glad you covered Darth PLAGUEIS.. Ive read and listened to rhis book 100X. NO TRUE SITH WOULD.EVER WISH TO BE CURED OF THE DARKSIDE..
Palpatine" THERE IS NO.WAY BUT MY WAY, NO TRUE SITH COULD EVER CARE FOR ANOTHER. ITS A SHAME REALLY THE POWER TO SAVE OTHERS FROM DEAth but. DIDNT LEAVE A SPOT FOR HIMSELF.!
TEACHER YES AND FOR THAT IM GF
OE THAT IM GRATEFUL, BUT MATSER...NEVER-!
Isn’t it weird that dooku was 20 years older than palpatine?
I can’t wait to read the book.