The Morbid Reasons Why the Republic Fell LONG Before the Battle of Coruscant
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- The Republic turned to the Empire a looooong time before Palpy made his epic senate speech. In this episode, we delve further into the topic.
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Did you do this video because of recent events due to someone whose name shall not be mentioned DT
Still people often overlook the fact the republic had a thousand years to fix theses issues and this was when the sith weren’t in power now the sith maybe had something to do with it but it ONLY two of them so they couldn’t be everywhere at once now I would say the republic became complacent and the fact they didn’t immediately wipe out slavery while they had a military just shows you they didn’t care about anyone but themselves or where in on it and the Jedi while well meaning were blinded by arrogance and are nearly the same as the sith hence why anikan says I see through the lies of the Jedi because he saw as the rest of the galaxy did that they were same thing to prove this the Jedi 1: do nothing about slavery
Support political parties who do hukk wars not sure if I spelled it right this is the story how general gervious became a cyborg
2: they where hell bent on killing anyone that disagreed with the order and or removed rival orders
Declared you a dark Jedi or sith (heresy) and would send Jedi to kill you because they feel threatened by you
Kidnapping children
started major wars
Be a ((Democracy)) aka one that only pretends to care about the people
Sith 1: started major wars
2: hell bent on killing anyone that disagreed with them or was a rival to them
3: of you were a Jedi they would for one kill you outright
4: kidnapping children clone wars thank you for pointing that out with cad bane and all
Started major wars would send sith or assassins to kill you
Supported slavery
Be a dictatorship
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What is the background music of three battles the 501st won?
"The Jedi fell long before the purge."
Fact
They couldn't see the Sith threat looming overhead like a 2500 lb steel beam ready to fall.
The Jedi spent a thousand years preparing to fight the last war.
How did the Jedi fall before the purge there where 10,000
@@preciousotoakhia9789 They fell because they lost their way, they sacrificed their doctrine to try and win the Clone War. They became way to intertwined with the galactic government to the point where the Senate was dictating the Jedi Councils decisions. Like during Ahsoka's trial, the council didn't want to convict her, but the Senate and Tarkin wanted to convict her, so the council convicted her to appease the Senate. That's how they feel.
Star Wars fans: “Wait, it’s all the Empire?”
Maul: “it aways has been”
funny how Obi-Wan failed to mention ANY OF THIS TO LUKE.
@Valer Well he clearly never learned the lessons that brought the Jedi down.
Republic Common?
Nah, I speak Imperial Common.
@@Kez_DXX PALPATINE FOR 2021!
@@JeanLucCaptain His only opponent is Palpatine so I believe Palpatine will win this year's election.
Last time I was this early Palpatine wasn’t the senate
Palestine is a country though
Edaug-Ethanb YT auto correct will be the end of man kid
JAMES HARDEN 3time dpoy I agree with that
He’s always been the senate
Impossible
They fell because they didnt have the high ground early on.
It’s over, I have the high ground
No moral high ground due to systemic corruption.
Notic Palpatine always take the high ground. In the senate, when in chairs, when jumping he is always trying to maintain the high ground.
@@toby1061 because he knew that the one who has the high ground will attain Unlimited Power
They should've worn heels then they'd always have the high ground
The Republic died when they decided to effectively make the Palpatine the senate at the start of the war. Along with their decision to abuse child/man soldiers and force them to fight as a slave army. Seriously though, that’s one of the reasons I love the Clone Wars because there isn’t a morally justified or good side. Both sides are very gray leaning towards evil. But at least the vast majority of Clones were shown to be nice and very empathetic guys. Maybe that’s why Palpatine had them replaced
Palpatine had they replaced because they were too expensive, he couldn't trust that they wouldn't be used against him in the future, and most importantly, he needed to give their jobs to normal people.
@@rosesweetcharlotte All true as well. Good points.
@Anne O'Nymous Yep
Actually clones were biologically and psycologically 20 year old men, so they weren't child soldiers
@@alejandroelluxray5298 Yeah that's true! I just meant they were strictly in terms of physical years of living. But yeah they're way more mentally and physically mature than a kid. They're not children physically or mentally-just in terms of how long they've existed in number of years.
Well that explains a lot
Huh anyone notice how much the Republic is like the Roman Republic/Empire
🤔
It reminds me of China
@@comradekenobi6908 Reminds me of the United states
I wouldve made that comparison but the roman empire still relied heavily upon the senate aproval in its first era, and towards it later eras it did too, however like star wars, rome was still huge and made most of its conquests even before it was an empire. Ironically that with rome if there was any institution that survived throughout its existence it WAS the senate.
@Azure the parts about the Republic being bad is like how it is here in America.
This itself has happened several times in history. I fear a parallel scenario plays out in the US itself.
good old palpy
To me, Palpatine wasn't a Hitler, he was a Caesar. He didn't make the republic corrupt and wicked, he just took advantage of it.
Maul was spot on.. no justice! no order! Everything he says reflects our governments in a funny way.
Think public infrastructure and services rotting through lack of funding while politicians responsible make damn sure their paycheck is secure.
In a funny way? That isn't funny at all. It's in a sad and terrifying way.
@@TheFirstCurse1 Yeah what I meant, my bad.
The Senate brought the Republic to its knees.
When the Clone Army was presented in review, you hear for the first time the Imperial March giving a hint as to what everyone signed on to. How in the crisis, all of these decisions appeared to be soooo right at the time.
It still baffles me to this day how Palpatine can go from 4D chess mastermind manipulator, to a horror show puppet that acts tough in the sequel trilogy
He thought he won.
If I had to guess, Palpatine was on his last legs in the Disney sequels. His clone body scheme didn't seem to go right, at least when compared to the Dark Empire comics. That being said, it would've made more sense if Palps was purposefully pitting Kylo and Rey against each other. The loser would die and the "winner" would get body snatched.
@@johnnygyro2295 Nah Lucas just nerfed him so it would look like an incompetent evil baddy, and the heroic Rebels took him down
@@MrSolus-ls6us
Lucas wasn't in charge of the sequels though. Disney threw out most of his ideas for the sequels, other than Luke becoming a hermit, and made said trilogy without any planning.
@@johnnygyro2295 Lucas was in charge of the Original, and Palpatine just looked like some evil, dumb guy, being outsmarted by a bunch of teddy bears, instead of a mastermind
everything Mando about this series was just incredible, the fact that it merges with the crazy Count Dooku/Darth Maul arches too, the climax is definitely when Maul gets the Dark Saber
The declaration of the empire wasn't a change of the status quo, it was an admittance that the status quo wouldn't be restored...
A most interesting presentation. 'So that's how the republic dies, with thunderous applause?" A lesson for today and tomorrow no doubt.
This gives me the feeling that even if Palpatine were stopped, the Republic would still have fallen anyway, just later and under different circumstances. Maybe the GAR becomes a military junta? For bonus points, the Jedi could start a Rebel Alliance to overthrow them.
Maybe a war between the Republic and the Outer Rim Territories over economic issues with no Sith around to impose peace afterwards. That conflict could have dragged on for decades.
The irony of the *Military Creation Act* is the lack of a central military power/force is what basically led to the conditions that created the instability in the Republic the first place.
It can be seen once again in the New Republic that made the same de-militarization mistake (albeit to a lesser extent) that the Ruusan Reformation did.
The Galaxy is a _nasty place_ which in a power vacuum will become lawless, leading to a desire among the populace for any order and control, even if it becomes oppressive.
In the Republic the lack of safety and order outside the Core systems is what created the circumstances for the Trade Federation and the CIS to arise in the first place - which was the long term plan of the Sith, although they exploited the opportunity that was already there.
IMHO If something like the GAR (in power, not necessarily with Clones) had already existed then the Galaxy would have been a much more stable place.
In fact that is what Ranulph Tarkin had proposed and had tried to implement, but he was _"unfortunately"_ killed in action.
Had his mission not been sabotaged _(he was played for a sucker),_ and he had gone on to success and his proposed reforms been implemented… and Palpatine and Maul been killed in an unfortunate accident… then the Republic could have survived.
Individual systems are just too weak to stand up to a determined foe, a large criminal group or Warlord, or even keep the peace.
And what if the system itself is a bad actor?
"We place ultimate authority to keep order in this sector in the hands of the Hutts"…
[Sounds of muted cheering from the slaves being forced to applaud at blaster point].
Just look at the state of the Galaxy during the first blockade of Naboo [TFA]. Tatooine was not a good place to live… hereditary slavery is generally not a sign of a healthy society [and it wasn't even race/species based on conquest, which is the most common cause in Earth history ("unfortunate" if you were in the conquered group), along with punitive slavery].
And then there was wholesale slavery and oppression of races/species [I'm going to leave the Earth comparisons alone now] besides economic slavery.
The Jedi had obviously been falling down on their calling.
A powerful force was needed to keep the peace and enforce sentient rights, and just keep general law and order [🎶 donk donk] and in particular prevent piracy.
*A possible stable system…*
The Judicial Forces get teeth.
A centralised patrol fleet, akin to the Coast Guard, but with enough firepower to enforce order. Ships and crew produced on an economy of scale so they are competent, and as a safety measure they are rotated between sectors to prevent them becoming the vassals of local powers.
And as a backup a rapid reaction force of fast class 1 (or better) hyperdrive equipped heavy Destroyers to supplement local patrol ships when needed.
And to keep everyone honest, the Jedi are used as corruption watchdogs and investigators, able to summon fleets at will if they find cause.
_Knight Errants that can call in airstrikes._
But they are not the ones that launch the airstrikes, a professional military does that.
And the Jedi also investigate the Senate for corruption. The state of the Galaxy couldn't have existed without a lot of Politicians looking the other way, receiving payoffs, or being the cause of the problems in the first place.
For such a fleet the GAR ships with a few modifications would actually be ideal.
A fast Frigate with a emphasis on ship to ship and anti Starfighter firepower as the standard patrol vessel (with a couple of ARC-170's for recon), and the Acclamator itself for dealing with planet side disturbances. One of those dropping in on a slave encampment would resolve the situation quickly.
And for the rapid reaction hammer Venators with class 1 or even faster hyperdrives stationed at important junctions to deal with sudden opposition.
A large fighter force would actually be appropriate for dealing with the common issues, as well as keeping the commanders honest as once launched, they have to rely on the loyalty of the pilots, whereas a Destroyers gunnery crew is onboard. And fighters can chase down criminals are just more versatile.
That will make the Trandosians play nice with the Wookies.
And it would have kept the systems that became the CIS happy.
i find new canon new republic to be utter morons, but the republic definetly needed an army/navy of a size where they could dominate minor powers aswell as take on the Hutts and bring order into that part of the galaxy.
a decent sized navy is also needed to protect the flow of good out of the hands of Pirates and the likes, aswell as policing so smuggling dosent become a rampant way to get access to goods.
ItsJonny Yeah, but republic good empire bad. Obviously the new republic was totally effective in keeping order until he galaxy with their little tiny x wing squads.
"Violence is the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived"
There's a reason why nations have armies and governments have a monopoly on violence. A demilitarized nation cannot sustain itself because it's authority is non-existent.
@@toby1061 Except for the reason Leia was thrown out of the new Republic was that they didnt have the ability police themselves and wanted a navy/army to stop outside forces from kidnapping their children.
They managed to control a piece of the galaxy for a minor part of time and failed to combat and respond to a threat that threatened and harmed their own citizens.. they wre innefective af.
Democracy is a tight rope and if you lean to much to either side you fall.
This was so well written! Wonderful job!
The Morbius Reasons Why the Republic Fell LONG Before the Battle of Coruscant
The galaxy deserved the empire.
One of the many reasons, why Star Wars is so great, is it’s insight in political manoeuvres comparable to real world threats, problems and challenges, which have to be faced nowadays or maybe in the near future.
Mauls comments always give me chills.
The fall of the republic begun in 1000 BBY when the rule of two was created. The sith had been planning this since the sith were defeated
Would the Jedi still participate in the clone wars if the separatists fought with living beings instead of battle droids?
Maybe not as many, and more might have joined the Separatists than originally did (so a small but sizable number rather than a mere handful).
Yes. It was their sense of duty that Palpatine used against them. The entire war was designed to lure their fighting-age members into the field where they were surrounded by soldiers programmed to kill them on command. Then Vader (or Maul, in the original scheme) would have killed off the children, elderly and other non-combatants remaining at the Temple before hunting down any stray survivors using the Inquisitors and the Imperial military.
I would say this is one of your better videos. Good job 👍
Brilliant and well done.
Law and order, long live the empire!
*Sees comments*
To quote Obi-Wan: Oh no, I'm not too brave for politics.
This video hurt in a way I can't explain..
Well done this explained so much.
The entire tragedy of the Republic’s fall is felt by watching this video, great job
The Republic had already sowed the seeds of its own decline when they relied on elite warrior monks (Jedi) To hold ever together
Why did it sound more like real life then Star Wars
Sounds right. I know that the Nixon years and WWII were big influences. I can see Weimar Germany, Spain, and Italy sliding into fascism as a "Best Alternative" to the government's at the time. That would be the influence on the fall of the Republic in the Star Wars galaxy.
What if Dooku turns Anakin before the Battle of Coruscant, and together with Obi-Wan, exposed and defeated Palpatine/Sidious?
This should b renamed the tragedy of the galactic Senate and liberty
I think it's very interesting how many paralels can be drawn to the most prominent real world transition of a democracy to a dictatorship, the Nazi take over in the Weimar Republic. There are some differences but a lot of stuff was simmilar and I think thats what makes the storry of the rise of the empire so interesting, becouse it's so close to real world excamples meaning it's veary realistic. Most noticably the Higher ups talking about some conspiracy (seperatists) wich they semselves created and presented evidence of it's excistence to the public wich was again created by themselves. All of that to convince the public and the legislativ system that they need emergency powers beyonde controll to stop it, becouse no one else can. (wich is funnily true since they created it in the first place and without them it wouldn't be a problem in the first place)
Damn only 3 days after the battle of coruscant the empire was formed.
Damn. Well done
No I refuse to believe it geetlys the clones stood up for a good fight
"We have to trust in the Republic. The moment people stop believing in democracy is when we lose it" - Queen Jamillia of Naboo
It's like what happened with COVID in Greece, everyone was yelling for more restrictive measures and when the house asylum and when the economy on quarantine crashed everyone realised their mistake
that is a idiotic comparison. All countries who made a well quarentine plan managed to get back on their feat whitout damaging much of their economy and also sparring most of the civilian's health against Covid.
All countries who
hesitated in enforcing quarentine acts are still getting destroyed by Covid, which means that their economy will still get crippled when others countries who did put restrictive measures managed to control the pandemic and is already recovering.
The republic was gonna rot anyways. The Empire atleast paved the way for the NEW Republic.
Guess it needed to fall so it be reborn into a newer republic.
Holy shit ur right...
Yep
This is greatest real life lesson from StarWars. How do you transform democratic republic into a fascist empire? By waging never ending useless wars...
Very good analysis.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
Wow the empire feels like melbourne
There are a lot of echoes in current history here.
NOICE
So paperwork brought down the republic LOL oh George...WTF
There are disturbing similarities happening today.
This reminds me of Augustus when he established the pricipate. The difference being that Augustus did a good job and made Rome an empire, while Sheev completely botched it and destroyed the galaxy.
If by botched you mean intentionally screwed the Republic over in order to complete a plan spanning generations of Sith then sure, he did
True, at the end of Rise of Skywalker there's no more galactic government of any kind.
What if the Old Republic became a Empire?
Warning! Internet essay ahead. read at your own risk ;)
One could argue that it happened even earlier than that. Much earlier in fact. The moment the Republic ordered the Sith Purge 1000 years before episode 1, and the Jedi carried it out unquestioningly, the fall of the Republic began. In that moment, they were willing to betray their own ideals and principles to ensure the complete destruction of an already defeated enemy because of the threat of the Sith Empire's inevitable resurgence if they didn't. While this eliminated the threat, for a time, and ushered in the Golden Age of the Rebuplic, it also resulted in the Republic's defeat in a war they had already won. The Sith may have been all but destroyed but the Republic and the Jedi betrayed everything they had fought for out of fear of the future. From that moment, the fall began. By the time Palpatine rose to power the Republic and the Jedi already were no more. Qui Gon Jinn may very well have been the last true Jedi to walk the Galaxy until the birth of Luke though there are a few who may have at least embodied the spirit of the Jedi such as Obi Wan, Plo Koon, and Ahsoka Tano. Yoda too would probably make that list but only near the end of his life. All of these Jedi tried to follow the Light but would be restricted by the indoctrination of the Jedi Code. Though Ahsoka Tano's story has not come to its end yet but even in the Madalorian we see her struggle with the idea of teaching Grogu because of the teachings of the Order still ingrained in her. She fears the darkness in him and does not think he should be trained. Luke however, is not afraid and simply follows the Force's will.
A single compromise of their core values was all it took. From that point it became easier to move that line they would not cross. Over 1000 years they kept moving the line inches at a time, sometimes centimeters, and no one noticed the death by a thousand cuts. It was like boiling a frog alive. Its not even that unrealistic. Historically many civilizations have fallen to corruption this way. Its why taking a stand for the principles you say you believe in is so important, especially when it is inconvenient to do so. Compromise is fine, and even healthy, when it comes to details. But when it is about core values one false step is all it takes. If your willing to compromise a little, then eventually you will compromise a lot and by then what once was will never be again. Again, that is fine when its something transient and impermanent because its going to change as a matter of course. Core values dont change this way. They change to suite the intrinsic needs of a person or society, or at least that is how they change naturally. This means that an artificial change of those core values means that the needs those values once served are now ignored and that leads to major problems. In the case of Societies its systemic issues. In the case of the Individual its more moral and/or ethical issues. In either case it trends towards corruption of some kind, with varying scopes and magnitudes.
For a more concrete example look at something more benign. Something like simple life goals. We all know just how quickly our "New Years Resolutions" devolve into broken promises and half assed attempts. Lets say we set a goal to do 15 sit ups a day. Nice and simple. Assuming our goal is reasonable for us to accomplish, when does this goal start to go awry? Is it the first day we get tired or busy and decide we will skip a day and go back to it tomorrow? After all what is one missed day, right? Well actually, no. That is not when the slide began. It actually started the moment you made a mental attempt to compromise with your reasonable goal AND you gave the compromise serious consideration. This exact form is different for all of us as we have our own slightly unique ways of negotiating with ourselves but its why we always struggle with our self imposed goals. This is also the reason why setting reasonable goals are important to success. The more reasonable your goal is the easier it is to ignore this voice of negotiation in our heads that really just wants to keep the status quo going strong for another year, more if you let it. And if you really think about this example you can see how it begins to apply to all kinds of things, but the obvious one is politics. Every time change is suggested there is always some group that favors the status quo and their first response is to attempt to compromise on the core values that are trying to be changed. They are not interested in the exact details of whether the change will occur in 4 years or 8. They are interested in getting the goalposts moved to a middle ground. This makes them seem reasonable as they are "meeting you half way". The issue is that there is no "half way" when it comes to core values. The whole reason for the American Civil War was because ultimately Slavery and everything surrounding it was either a yes or no question. You can't have someone be half a slave and halfway free, its nonsense. And yet for many years before the war the South and all those in favor of Slavery attempted to negotiate the issue and the reason why they did so all comes back to this simple Truth. When you compromise on that end goal, or in the abstract the core values that make up ones principles, you are doomed to failure. That is, unless you eventually take a stand, hence the war. At some point you have to get stubborn with yourself and just do the damn 15 sit ups EVERY SINGLE DAY if for no other reason than THAT IS WHAT YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO. Another reason why making sure the goals you set for yourself are both reasonable and attainable so your not just setting yourself up for failure no matter what you do.
To bring this back to the original subject, the Republic was not necessarily lost when they instigated the Sith Purge. But by never walking it back and calling it what it was, Genocide, and never saying the Republic and the Jedi were wrong in their course of action they set a precedent that such behavior was acceptable if it was for the benefit of the security of the Republic. Thus it is not surprising that 1000 years later when extreme measures where proposed in order to protect the security of the Republic that such actions where met with applause even though they were unwittingly hand the reigns of power over to what equates to Space Hitler in the form of Palpatine. If anyone was going to speak out against it and expect to be taken seriously it should have been at some point in the last 1000 years, LONG before the Sith put any such plans into motion.
why do i feel like this is what we are going throw im real life
Wait ... Revenge of the sith is like three days?
Didnt you upload this like 2 days ago?
The 2001 patriot act
I the only one noticed Maul is a space Englishman?
Anyone know what comic that panel is from at 7:50 ?
"The Prequels is about how a republic turned into an empire, how democracy turned into Fascism"
I agree with most, just not the last part. Yes, they were authoritarian but they were more Communist than Fascist; at least according to Generation tech in their political analyses of the Empire. I actually tend to agree with Generation Tech on this based on communist governments in our history: such as the USSR, China, Cuba, etc... While they say that they aren't fully communist because they don't have the military capacity to fully enforce their will, I think it doesn't matter and that they are full communist. But this is my opinion.
They are missing communist dogma and communist beliefs
Don't see the relation to communism, it is more Facist to me. More so like Nazi Germany, and now the US to an extent.
china claims to be communist but they are definitely full on fascism. they have the second largest military in the world now and are having their own holocaust of millions of muslims
@@jakelong5600 thats not the thing making them not fascist though they just are really capitalist
@@jakelong5600 No, china is communist, they full on believe in Marx's ideas.
Sounds like America today
The MORBid reason?
Before even watching this video , I'mma guess one of the reasons were the fact that the clones were actual fuckin slaves
I mean, the Jedi were definitely going to depose the emperor the second Grievous was killed. The imperial seeds would have never grown if Anakin hadn't stopped Windu. Sure the Republic was on the verge of a political collapse because of Sidious but it didn't truly die until Anakin took vengeance and justice into his own hands. The Jedi were blind but would have prevailed because the teachings of balance were truly coming to light thanks to people like Jin and Yoda whom were only coming to these conclusions as these events unfolded.
At this point the jedi were to arrogant and turned too much of a blind eye to politics and the republic as a whole
Americans take note
Why this fits the fall of the modern world?
Palps would’ve chose Jar Jar if Anikan... failed
If anakin what?
Don't leave us hanging!
Anakin what about Anakin? No, no! Don’t leave me without an answer!!
Carly Crays cliffhanger
@@mangozzz4487 how much do I pay for the next part of the comment?
This is what is happening here in the US
love the political video! please do more!
cough cough america cough
Suggestion for future: What if both sides of the Clone Wars were using conscript armies instead of clones and droids?
The republic would win because they have a larger population than the separatists.
To be fair both the CIS and the Republic fielded conscripts. The Republic had the Antarian Rangers, Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Rahm Kota's and the Judicials. The CIS had the Quarren isolation league members, Morgukai warrior clones(Temporarily), and a few other local organic forces.
Well, the conflict wouldn't be called "The Clone Wars" anymore, that's for sure.
Alexander Johnston it would probably be called the galactic civil war.
@@JediAcolyte94 which books or comics do the Antarian Rangers, Sons and Daughters of freedom appear? The Morgukai appear in the old Clone Wars comics, Kota's militia on The Force Unleashed, Quarren Isolation League in both Legends and canon Clone Wars series.
Something I’ve only realized as I’ve gotten older is how unpopular the political sentiment found during episodes II & III was in 2001-2005 America.
Like we joke about how cheesy some of the dramatic lines are, or Anakin quoting George W Bush, but that was borderline subversive for the time.
Whether you agreed with him or not, you have to respect the stones on George Lucas that during a time when Americans were out for blood, the PATRIOT ACT, and certain Toby Keith songs on the radio, Lucas used the series that he will be remembered for to say something he believed (even if it was very unpopular at the time.)
Let's underline the Patriot Act there. It is literally the same as the acts that followed the creation of the GRA. At least the war with the separatists was a legal war that the Senate agreed to and wasn't an act of dictatorial power disregarding the vote.
One need only look at history to see that Empire's are born and die, not in days, or years, but decades, the cracks form long in advance, not inevitably fatal, almost all can be fixed, but when enough get missed, exploited, or bungled by a succession of bad luck, bad rule, or bad intent, the right or wrong move can bring it all down. Things were already shaping up before Palpy was even born, but he played it beautifully, don't let the first sentence take anything away from him, whatever flaws the Republic had weren't necessarily fatal until Palpy made them so .
*cough* Caesar *cough*
Empires can last along time if ran effectively such as the British empire which lasted a very long time
Ezra : Commander what were the seperatists fighting for?
DC : According to my programming - freedom from the tyranny of the republic
Ezra : Hmm fighting tyranny...sounds like the empire has always been your enemy
In fact they were, even the troops didn't changed as much too
@@defalttheloner that sucks indeed
“I was very interested in the fall of the republic and the rise of the Galactic Empire. When Palpatine, supreme commander and the Republic’s highest executive authority tore off the visage of democracy to reveal his true desire for power, I knew that it was all finished. I thought the republic should’ve been providing for citizens’ welfare, but they oppress the lower class, political dissidents, and the non-humans. Heavy nationalization of industry, police-state legislation, and strengthening the executive branch and weakening the two other branches. Also, I can’t imagine Palpatine didn’t bribe so many people in the government to his advantage.” -CS/CT-8711-12 “Cheng”, Captain and Scout of the 442nd Siege Battalion
There he is
Careful with your words Comrade Cheng,
the PRC doesn't really like your actions
*Sheev Palpatine wants to know your location*
CT-8711-12, I will report this to the ISB immediately.
I know people say that Sidious wasn't racist himself, that his psychopathy wouldn't allow it, but how can he not be a tad be racist given just how pro-human his Empire was?
This is where the fun begins
Something to note as well, many characters in-universe will frequently talk about democracy when referring to the Republic. Meaning that few really understood the government of the Republic beyond a broad understanding. Which is basically a death sentence for Republics when their founding policies are forgotten by both its politicians and populace.
What's horrifying is that people in real life at least in my country are pretty much the same.
Evil can prosper if good people fail to act and are prevented from acting.🧐
And yet, good people still took action. As bad as things got, there were still good people
Seems familiar.
@@rosesweetcharlotte in fantasy we always have people willing to die for a good universe. But what I see on reality is a in existence of heros and no real way of salvation.
When he says 'Enhanced Security and Enforcement Act' I hear 'Emergency Decree for the Protection of People and State', better known as Reichstag Fire Decree. Say what you will of the Prequels and TCW, but what it did in portraying the death of liberty was superb storytelling.
I hear USPATRIOT Act.
Lucas' problem was that his eyes were bigger than his stomach.
He understands themes and "big picture" stuff as well as anyone that has ever worked in Hollywood and his politics are pretty good too. He is also the reigning God Emperor of the Establishment Shot. But he cannot connect that to the little things like dialogue. He is also a horrendous "actor's director". He tired to merge about a dozen of Shakespeare's best plays into one narrative while paralleling the first 50 years of the 20th century. And do it all by himself. That would be rough for a creative staff of hundreds. We know, because they have gotten a staff of hundreds together in the intervening years to clean up Lucas' mess.
@@jeffreymeehan3116 Disneys staff of hundreds has done worse than George Lucas.
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor No doubt. But if you take the opinion that TCW is the best Lucas Stuff, he really needed a staff of people who could properly check his ambitions and convince him that he is not an Auteur of Kurosawa's caliber. That was my point. And I like Filoni's Stuff even if it is under Disney.
@@nicholasfarrell5981 yep gitmo,nsa,dhs whole thing
It’s so interesting to me about how much of the fall of the republic was there own fault
???: Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
It’s not a story the Jar Jars would tell you
@@mangozzz4487 It's a Sith Legend.
No
@@gabeholbrook7942 Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.
2:38 "The Republic will fall as it always has, a fall that will take a millennia."
Wait Valorum was killed? I thought he survived till the end of the CW where he was basically forgotten about.
This was in legends
@@Rcampo42 Oh. Then that makes sense.
He was killed later.
@@HolyknightVader999 assassinated on Palpatine's orders to prevent him being a potential opposition leader.
This reminds me of the podcast I listed to called 60 words - it’s about how the US allowed itself to go to war against anyone and eveyone after 9/11 - very much worth a listen 👍
Maul: There are three walls
Ahsoka: There are four, actually.
Maul: For now. I must tell you how the republic fell already.
Permission to break this fourth wall then?
Can you do a video on how the Republic might have been saved from the Empire? Like, if during the Clone Wars certain changes were made?
That would probably take a few videos, I think. It would be easier to save the Republic back when Dooku was still a Jedi.
*shows edit of Anakin and Rex listening to Fives for literally 10 seconds*
@@simonhirst3021 It'd probably take 10 minutes but what then? They could probably warn the Jedi and even tell the Senate. But there were literally 150 different contingency orders, with only 1 targeting the Jedi, and at least 2 targeting the Chancellor. Also, there's no proof that Palpatine is behind the creation of the Clone Army, as it was first commisioned by the Jedi Syfo Dias and later found by the Jedi Obi-Wan Kenobi, and if they investigate further, they would find that Tyranus/Dooku was also behind it, a former Jedi and someone who's known to be close to Syfo Dias and the master of Kenobi's master, all very convenient.
It wouldn't take much for Palpatine to twist this into a Jedi plot against the Republic, especially since the Jedi were already very unpopular by this point, and Palpatine has the unwavering support of much of the Senate. Order 66 would still be enacted, although many of the Jedi would be aware of the Clones' betrayal and will manage to escape, they'd be forced into exile and the Empire would rise regardless.
Yeah the Jedi could try to kill Palpatine quickly, but attempting to assassinate the Supreme Chancellor wuold just make them look even worse, and I have no doubt that if Palpatine knew he can't turn Anakin, and can't win this fight, he would find a way to escape. Then everyone can see that the Jedi attempting a coup and Order 66 would still occur.
Reminds me of the following exchange:
Dr. Arnim Zola : HYDRA was founded on the belief that humanity could not be trusted with its own freedom. What we did not realize was that if you tried to take that freedom, they resist. The war taught us much. Humanity needed to surrender its freedom willingly. After the war, S.H.I.E.L.D. was founded, and I was recruited. The new HYDRA grew, a beautiful parasite inside S.H.I.E.L.D. For 70 years, HYDRA has been secretly feeding crises, reaping war. And when history did not cooperate, history was changed.
Natasha Romanoff : That's impossible. S.H.I.E.L.D. would've stopped you.
Dr. Arnim Zola : Accidents will happen. HYDRA created a world so chaotic that humanity is finally ready to sacrifice its freedom to gain its security. Once the purification process is complete, HYDRA's New World Order will arise. We won, Captain. Your death amounts to the same as your life, a zero sum!
Just replace HYDRA with Sith and SHIELD with Jedi.
That is actually a perfect reference to how the people who own our money took control of the world.
@@TheHardys01 Kinda sad how much most people are willing to give up just for a quiet life in "safety"...
@@widgren87 There's a Malcolm X quote from somewhere.
I cant find it to save my life, but it was something like
"You cannot have a formal revolution,
until you awaken the mind of a sleeping people." Keep this in mind✌🏼
@@TheHardys01 Reminds me of something my dad said once: A person can be smart, a crowd is only as smart as the dumbest person in it.
I have yet to see proof otherwise...
@@widgren87 I used to think humanity had some logic, but now I don't. We really are a stupid bunch of people
When the Prequel Era inevitably gets a gritty reboot (hopefully several decades from now), I’d love to see a political thriller take place from at/around the beginning of Palpatine’s Chancellorship, thru the establishment of the New Order.
The naive protagonist would see the thunderous Senate applause on the holonet and lament “So this is how the Republic dies...” to which the jaded deuteragonist would snap back “ ‘This’?? _This?!_ This is simply the last gasps of an already-dying government! The Republic died a long time ago, when our beloved -Emperor- Chancellor passed the Security Act (way back in the Pilot episode) !! We were just too blind to notice it back then...”
Ngl I’m seeing far too many similarities between the SW universe and present day politics in the US
3 weeks ahead and it only has gotten more obvious, stories are more than entertainment, they're a warning.
Thankyou I always wanted someone to make a video about this make people realize the republic never fell, the empire is just the republic with some of its worse aspects brought out.
Great video as usual but is the "history of the Republic" series still on going? I really loved that series but the last part is allready a month old and the three existing part came out within the span of three weeks.
It didn’t preform well in views sadly, might still pump out some videos for it
@@geetslys that's sad to hear but I'd certainly watch and love some more videos for that series, even shorter and less detailed ones. I wonder what about it didn't appeal to most people
@@geetslys Keep making them
When palpatine was granted emergency powers with no sunset provision the republic was over. He already won. He was just trying to be as artful about it as possible so the transition was clean with the right scapegoats