Self-Administered EMDR (Is it A Good Idea For You?)

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  • @moonlightmelodiesasmr3766
    @moonlightmelodiesasmr3766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    I’ve done around 100 EMDR sessions. Self administered EMDR helped me start actually living my life.

    • @Healinglove
      @Healinglove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      May I ask how you did this on your own?
      Thank you! 🙃

    • @moonlightmelodiesasmr3766
      @moonlightmelodiesasmr3766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Healinglove I found the steps online and found emdr videos on TH-cam! I also was seeing a therapist at the time who helped me to create a safe space which helped. It changed my life.

    • @Healinglove
      @Healinglove 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@moonlightmelodiesasmr3766 thank you! If I don't have the money for a therapist, do you think doing this alone with the TH-cam video's would be alright? I did one the other day, it helped, I felt ALOT, I was shocked, felt a little dizzy, but it was good. 🙃

    • @moonlightmelodiesasmr3766
      @moonlightmelodiesasmr3766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@Healinglove I started doing it by myself before I started seeing a therapist actually. So yes you definitely can. It was just helpful to see how someone who was trained in it would do it so I could improve my own technique. And also to break down the session with her. I also didn’t know I was supposed to create a safe space. I would definitely read/ watch yt videos about the proper steps. And you can also re traumatize yourself if it goes wrong. I have actually done that once when I was a hurry and didn’t follow the proper process. So it is a risk. But overall it has still been worth it for me. So since you don’t have a therapist to do that make sure you know the information and steps. Create a safe space while doing the emdr with imaging your senses involved. And also find other tools that can help when the session gets too intense. Like imagining a glass wall between you and whatever you need it to be or creating a protector that can come in and help. All of those things have helped me a lot. You can also create other spaces to help like a safe with a lock and filing system you leave the session in to file away for later. Do that has really helped me to slowly come out of the session and feel like I’m not going to be disturbed with thoughts about it until I’m ready again. I’ve also slowly built a “house” in sessions over time that have helped me create a secure attachment and self identity. It’s basically where I focus on the positive changes I want after dealing with the negative child trauma and I’m ready to move on and create something new. There’s lots of different ways to grow and process with emdr. Hope that helps and gives you some ideas!

    • @moonlightmelodiesasmr3766
      @moonlightmelodiesasmr3766 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Healinglove also feeling dizzy and drained is very normal! I also used to have vivid nightmares after too. Those has stopped for the most part.

  • @Afunnymaninpain
    @Afunnymaninpain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    I did self emdr on myself unintentionally while walking 8-12 miles a day over two years. My therapist is fascinated by what I have done.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      Very interesting! I assume you know that Francine Shapiro, who invented EMDR, came up with it spontaneously while walking as well! How interesting that you discovered it that way as well.

    • @lucianoinso
      @lucianoinso ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@lamdafinity I just watched a video of Andrew Huberman analyzing EMDR and he says that while we walk the eyes are doing the same movement and it has similar effects, it deactivates the amygdala, which is the part of the brain that alerts us when there is danger.

    • @515aleon
      @515aleon ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's valid. I just posted on a book called "Walking your blues away" by Thom Hartmann (though he is advocating a purposeful 20 min a day walk). I wish he hadn't used the word blues, but i suppose he wanted to keep it accessible. I just mentioned walking a labyrinth daily (non-theistically).

    • @thrisajimmy9005
      @thrisajimmy9005 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ​@@BarbaraHeffernan Inviting you to say he conceptualized EMDR as Indigenous people across the world have been utilizing BLS since time immemorial ❤

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@thrisajimmy9005what's BLS?

  • @Starfishin7
    @Starfishin7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    I tried self administered EMDR having had counselling sessions and trauma focused CBT in the past and still use my CBT techniques to this day. I have diagnosed PTSD from multiple childhood traumatic events but decided to pick an isolated event which comes up as a flashback/image around the anniversary of my brothers death that usually triggers guilt and sadness. I had thought about my core beliefs and what my younger self needed to hear at that time, did the EMDR light board on a TH-cam video and managed to release all the guilt and sadness after one go! Today is my brothers death anniversary and for the first time in 28 years I feel completely neutral, calm and at peace with it! Even the image is vague in my mind now and has zero upset attached to it! I am able to say it was a really sad time and I’ll never forget him but it’s time for me to live my life now without guilt or sadness! Amazing!

    • @mega-gabriel
      @mega-gabriel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hi! So happy you’re finding peace!!! Can you tell me which TH-cam light board you were watching/using please?

    • @brotherdeluxe2782
      @brotherdeluxe2782 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There’s nothing more inspiring than hearing that someone has achieved success in this difficult situation. Power to you and thank you for sharing.

    • @MKD-dd6ng
      @MKD-dd6ng 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Name your sources please!??? Want to watch them myself, and do the same! Ty.

    • @Starfishin7
      @Starfishin7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brotherdeluxe2782 aww thank you! I’m all for sharing if it helps someone else

    • @Starfishin7
      @Starfishin7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mega-gabriel thank you! I used one off isochronicalpha channel but there are lots of different ones on TH-cam

  • @melaneysreenan7172
    @melaneysreenan7172 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    I am a PH.D. and EMDR certified. Your passion and presentation are spot on ! Thank you 🙏

    • @philanisukumane8405
      @philanisukumane8405 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good day Melaney. May I contact you privately. I would appreciate getting your contacts. I'm all the way in South Africa

    • @melaneysreenan7172
      @melaneysreenan7172 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philanisukumane8405 I’d love to connect !! How would you like to do that ?
      Zoom ?

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@melaneysreenan7172do you do EMDR sessions on Zoom still?

  • @bobblebardsley
    @bobblebardsley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +361

    I'm not sure I suffer from PTSD but I have used self-EMDR to desensitize myself to certain mildly traumatic past events and I've found it works very quickly for me. They weren't major life events, just sources of anxiety from situations where I didn't feel safe etc, and the lasting trauma from them was only mild, but I'd say my experience is that self-EMDR worked for me, even just taking a few minutes over the course of a few days to access the memories, with eye movements, and tell myself that it's in the past, things turned out OK and the memory alone can't hurt me in the present. Some are situations I can easily avoid in the future so I know I won't have to face them again, so there's nothing to continue worrying about. As a technique that's easy to use and requires no specialist equipment etc, I think it's worth a try for anyone who's curious about it - just be ready to stop if you feel like it's triggering you more than helping you. (I'm not an expert, just personal opinion.)

    • @thanksexportsshoes240
      @thanksexportsshoes240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      did you used vitural emdr ? for self therapy please reply your reply will give a light to me

    • @bobblebardsley
      @bobblebardsley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@thanksexportsshoes240 I just thought about the problem memories while rapidly moving my eyes, no special techniques or apps. Like I said, I'm not sure if that should even work but it feels like it helps me.

    • @dabsmomos
      @dabsmomos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks. This was helpful. I am less skeptical to listen to the video

    • @bobblebardsley
      @bobblebardsley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@dabsmomos I think these things will always work differently for different people. I have found EMDR useful with or without the videos, I hope it works for you. Really hope you feel better.

    • @dabsmomos
      @dabsmomos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bobblebardsley 🙏

  • @Yannispawn
    @Yannispawn วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you so much for giving us this information for FREE! What a gift. Thank you! I have done EMDR many times in the distant past with at least 3 different providers. I have also done hypnosis at 3 different points in my life. I am still dealing with some things (phobias) that have come and gone over the years and need to desensitize myself.
    Also, I have tried to find therapists but many don’t return calls or their wait list is so long they don’t even add to it. It can be very dishearte Can’t wait to try the self administered EMDR! Again, my heart felt thank you ❤
    ning.

  • @mikelord2698
    @mikelord2698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I didn't realise you could perform EMDR on your self. So firstly thanks for the awareness and also thanks for the balanced overview 👍. I'll be watching this again and again..

  • @japhalpha
    @japhalpha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I feel so much better. I just bought the
    self-administered emdr membership and finished a session. Wow this is a game changer!

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So pleased to hear that it helped!!

    • @jrchmrs
      @jrchmrs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your review

  • @caleriasand8237
    @caleriasand8237 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Answer is yes. You should definitely use it if you’ve been title as often as possible and as often as it helps. Take responsibility for your healing and be strong

  • @mysocalledmidlifecrisisvlo7521
    @mysocalledmidlifecrisisvlo7521 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I can really appreciate this because so many people need this but cannot afford it. I wanted to try EMDR and it was suggested for me by other therapists. But sadly my insurance wouldn’t help with it.

  • @ambercook8485
    @ambercook8485 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I'm currently doing EMDR with a therapist and have been for almost a year but I know that I need something additional to help me in between sessions. I've been afraid to do self administered EMDR however after watching the video I'm not as afraid and will start off with the "EMD" part of things. Thank you for posting this!

  • @chartreusecat6642
    @chartreusecat6642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    There is something about you that seems so sincere, like I FEEL I can trust what you're saying. I definitely finished this video with the sense you are committed to the mental well-being of others. It's as if you engender true hope, not just the "bank of knowledge" of many a professional or expert. I felt hopeful for the first time in awhile...i saw a trauma therapist for a short time when I was in crisis, desperate for EMDR, but she wouldn't attempt it until I was more emotionally regulated. I've seen a different therapist since for 2 years (CBT), but I'm still dysregulated to the same degree. My memories haunt me, and I can't help but feel my mind wants to expel them but can't. Something is holding on to them, and when I remember, I feel the events MORE than when they occurred. So sorry for the wall of text.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Hi Chartreuse: Thanks for the positive feedback - it is nice to hear. So sorry you have been struggling for so long. I do have a video on EMDR for complex PTSD. th-cam.com/video/NuxMmSYea5U/w-d-xo.html Sometimes it is recommended for a therapist to work for an extended period of time with someone BEFORE doing the active processing stage with bilateral stimulation (sometimes it can be 1-2 years of working on emotional regulation , trust and other issues - this is still "doing" EMDR, just not the active processing stage). Other things can be very helpful, particularly yoga, meditation. There is hope!

    • @novardifunkegenaamdkaiser3491
      @novardifunkegenaamdkaiser3491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, I directly saw that too! She is not an ordinary therapist!

    • @lesleygarvs4640
      @lesleygarvs4640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because they can not practice it if you are not in a safe place, away from your abusor, call it abusive family members, or the job where they totally hate you and bully you, etc

    • @chartreusecat6642
      @chartreusecat6642 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lesleygarvs4640 I understand

  • @YesToTech
    @YesToTech 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Thanks for the pros and cons of whether we can do EMDR on ourselves or need a therapist! Very informative!

  • @JoeSharp1
    @JoeSharp1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I’ve done my first self EMDR and found it super powerful and supportive. I’ve got a background in teaching transformational breathwork so I’m comfortable with catharsis and release, but it’s really great to have EMDR as an additional tool.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wonderful! Thanks for sharing as it might be helpful for others. And, I agree your background is helpful for this!

  • @marioncatalano3434
    @marioncatalano3434 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You are a true treasure. Thank you for taking the time to support us traumatized individuals.
    I have CPTSD and have had a few EMDR sessions. I've started doing it at home now and I love it. I have a lot of self-awareness about why and how this happened, but I would be willing to see a therapist again in the future. Keep up your amazing work ♥️

  • @robincourtney9459
    @robincourtney9459 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have been doing EMDR with my therapists for over 10 years. I started doing some of the techniques on myself (tapping, butterfly hug, etc) during extremely difficult periods when I was between therapy sessions. What I found is that this helped me to move to a better place emotionally.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am so glad it's helping you!

    • @chem3066
      @chem3066 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      10 years?

  • @Cryoniczz11
    @Cryoniczz11 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’ve done it on myself. 12 days straight 50-70mins per session.
    Then I did another 4 sessions just to follow up.
    Current Medication: Citilopram 10mg
    ^
    Planning on cycling off within the next 2 months. I’ve done a ton of research on this before trying this myself. I also eased my way into the more heavy material (traumas).
    I’m in a “maintenance phase” right now. Just observing myself at this point. Last session was 4 days ago. Session before that was about a week before my last session.
    It’s a powerful tool to add to your tool belt, don’t do too much too soon.

  • @VioletPersuasion
    @VioletPersuasion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    My daughter (now 18) and I both have had prior EMDR sessions with a therapist. I can easily talk quickly and move right to the next set of EMDR movements. My daughter, however, gets VERY distracted by the talking aspect and feels compelled to talk to the therapist, so has almost no sets of eye movement (when she was a minor, I discussed it with the therapist and they continued drawing out the talking instead of helping a traumatized/victimized teen work with EMDR who wanted to utilize it). I eventually got desperate to find something for her and found VirtualEMDR, and it has been AWESOME for her. She went from the emotional life of maybe a 8-9 year old when she was 17, to that of a 14-15 year old in a few months! Having no one to distract her with talking was a huge key for HER.
    The cost of the month of Virtual EMDR is less than one-hour sessions with our local therapist, too. Which is needed for a family of 8 with less than $30,000 a year!
    I still benefit more from an in-person session than the virtual, but it still helps me, too.
    Thank you for being so open about the pros and cons, not just dismissing self-EMDR!

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for sharing your experience! I'm so pleased Virtual EMDR was so helpful for your daughter!

    • @Hblue-ju9rv
      @Hblue-ju9rv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hello where did you purchase or access the virtual emdr program thank you

    • @tanyawieczorek6603
      @tanyawieczorek6603 ปีที่แล้ว

      Violet, what was the exact program you and she used, please?

    • @VioletPersuasion
      @VioletPersuasion ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Hblue-ju9rvit's the program she links in her description of the video, Virtual EMDR. click that and use her affiliate link!

    • @VioletPersuasion
      @VioletPersuasion ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@tanyawieczorek6603it's the program she links in her description of the video, Virtual EMDR. click that and use her affiliate link!

  • @margueritespringer3687
    @margueritespringer3687 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you Barbara. You appear a sensible, informed and compassionate. It was a delight listening to you. Am keen to follow up with the suggested videos.

  • @marcoinvesting5339
    @marcoinvesting5339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best video on EMDR on TH-cam hands down

  • @chrisnam1603
    @chrisnam1603 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In my environment icannot find a good therapist, you HELP so many people🙏, bless you

  • @Sam-ko3kq
    @Sam-ko3kq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a calming voice you have

  • @lifeisbeautiful7047
    @lifeisbeautiful7047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you so much for being in my life

  • @Garbageflys2u
    @Garbageflys2u 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did one EMDR by my self, which helped me walk through some feeling the reason. I then discussed it with my therapist.

  • @brettneuberger6466
    @brettneuberger6466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for offering such a genuinely helpful explanation. Being a novice, and having just completed a very successful self administered session, I was looking for confirmation that I did it "right," and found your video. Turns out I did. Having the experience validated by a professional is affirming and super helpful. Thank You! You've got a new subscriber.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for letting me know! Happy to hear it was successful for you :)

  • @kamaliwickramage2418
    @kamaliwickramage2418 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Thanks a lot for this! I’ve been doing online EMDR with a therapist for some months now, and it’s been very helpful. I will be stopping the sessions in some weeks, as I’m feeling better, and this sounds like a great option to try if I feel like I could use it again.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Terrific! So pleased to hear the EMDR helped you!

    • @carriefurr1
      @carriefurr1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what website was yours through?

  • @belladogga1
    @belladogga1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for doing this and helping so many people in these difficult times

  • @vesnam7591
    @vesnam7591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks so much for the info. I tried self administered desensitizing with a TH-cam video and got instant relief...after a few min of course. Felt lighter, mind relaxed. Thanks for pointing out adding a positive belief /outlook at the end. Gold 🙏🏼

    • @nineteenboston498
      @nineteenboston498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which video did you use?

    • @vesnam7591
      @vesnam7591 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nineteenboston498 good luck!!

    • @nineteenboston498
      @nineteenboston498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@vesnam7591 Thank you! I've been doing the tapping when the flashbacks come up on their own, and it's just like you said. Immediate relief, instantly calmer, and I'm able to process the memory and positive correlations much better. I may become brave and try with a therapist, but I'm not yet at the point where I can do the whole "completely falling apart" part of EMDR before getting better.
      Good luck to everyone reading and you, as well! We're stronger than we know.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How wonderful to hear!

    • @vesnam7591
      @vesnam7591 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nineteenboston498 you got the link? I posted it here, I think it was deleted

  • @VibeszzVibeszz
    @VibeszzVibeszz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Knowledge is power, never heard of this. Thank you!!!

  • @BarbaraHeffernan
    @BarbaraHeffernan  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Let me know - have you tried self-administered EMDR?

    • @bystandersarah
      @bystandersarah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I did it once with a situation I was still upset with my about when I was a kid. I was just sitting at my desk with no help or videos. As I kept going , my mind seemed to process the story and come to a different conclusion than before. My mom was doing her best at the time and I could finally see that clearly. I no longer have any emotional response in regards to that childhood memory.

    • @martak5618
      @martak5618 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've tried just two minutes ago. I did so primarily because the emdr therapists around me seem to be closed and I have suffered from DP/DR for 8 years and just want to get rid of it. I am not feeling any immediate effects but hoping to "feel" something in the morning

    • @BrianaJacoba
      @BrianaJacoba 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Self? Yes! Administered? Not really...
      One time, from an upsetting event that was a lot like my upbringing (except that I handled it well, because I was an adult, I'd been warned this person was that way at times, and I've had a lot of therapy), a twitch manifested in my right temple.
      Eventually, after weeks of regular therapy I was already in, it moved to my eyebrow. I could affect it somewhat (a little like biofeedback), by relaxing a certain part of my brain/thinking/perspective, but not all day, every day, of course.
      Then, one morning, and I knew exactly what was happening,
      IT MOVED FROM MY EYELID TO MY ACTUAL EYE (right eye only)
      JUST AS IN EMDR,
      AND I KNEW THE TWITCH WOULD BE GONE FOREVER
      because of the stuff happening in my brain simultaneously.
      The week after that, I unravelled a bit in ways that I hadn't for YEARS but which used to be associated with attack by a critical parent, and had to ask my therapist for a 2h session on the weekend. It was the first time I was open to EMDR, but I actually ASKED FOR IT because my body had. (Sorry I wasn't open before: I'd heard from a dozen or so certified EMDR practitioners in my IFS Level 1 training that EMDR is being found to be safer in combination with IFS, so I got myself an IFS therapist with EMDR ability.) It got the rest of me over the hump! I'm FREEEEEEEE!!!!!
      I feel FANTASTIC. At peace in my body, not all over the place identifying as my thoughts and ideas, not afraid to take it slow anymore, not hypervigillant anymore...
      So...
      your Q...
      I guess I did do EMD(R) myself, but I can't say I *administered* it.
      It was involuntary.
      I know what trauma it treated:
      I was owning power I had given away as a child, and taking back the first-hand perspective of empowered party.
      This had been a looooooong time coming.
      I am now far more open to doing EMD myself when strong emotions arise: I think my biggest trauma has been unearthed.
      I'm glad I had an expert on standby when it hit the fan.
      I can see how self-administering could be the ONLY way some people get benefit, but luckily, my therapist was willing to drop all instructional language and do it in a way that supported my needs, accommodating my particular trauma. Instructions make me obstinate!! (I, myself, specialize in helping obstinate scientists for that very reason -- I get it!!!)
      Thanks for the sincere desire to make wellness accessible to all,
      with which you made this helpful, informative, stimulating video.

  • @JMadonna
    @JMadonna ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I used VirtualEMDR before getting EMDR with a therapist. I didn’t feel like doing it on my own was helping me at all and you are correct. I was doing the EMD and not the R. Now that I am seeing positive benefits from my EMDR therapist-led sessions once we are done working together, I plan to do the self-led EMDR therapy on my own. My moods are even, I’m very in touch with my emotions and my body, and my issues are little T traumas. My therapist has been impressed with how quickly I am proceeding through all the sessions. It helps me feel neutral about these events- like they are something that I saw in a movie or read about in a book.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks so much for sharing this! Yes, your experience of events being neutralized - that is exactly how it works! And it is wonderful that you are moving through everything! When you return to the self-administered, let us know how it goes! I am working on a couple of videos with some interviews with people who utilized the Virtual emdr site and a couple of them found it useful after finishing with their therapists as well: bit.ly/bhvirtualemdr

  • @RachelleKates
    @RachelleKates 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Bless you. You’re so honest, and helpful. Thank you so much.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!! That is super nice to hear :)

  • @bunkayke2554
    @bunkayke2554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so so much for this video, just shared it to my friends. I wish us all here luck 🍀 you're strong

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are very welcome, and thanks for sharing :) I hope this is helpful 😀

  • @VictoriaVivesKhuong
    @VictoriaVivesKhuong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for sharing, Barbara! Always good to learn more!

  • @thatdarnkitteh
    @thatdarnkitteh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just started EMDR with a therapist. I've only really done the safe space exercise but even that was a great help. I started using the safe place when confronted with overwhelming negative emotions. Haven't reprocessed anything yet but just taking time to create that space was a good exercise to do.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome. I do wish you the best of luck with it, and the fact that the safe place was helpful is a great sign!

  • @letsgofishingene
    @letsgofishingene 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Signed up for virtual emdr today.

    • @Nocturnal808
      @Nocturnal808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it going for you?

  • @iheartigloos
    @iheartigloos 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was looking into if this would be a good fit for me and you provided great info....looks like I need to take some other steps before I'm ready so I'm happy to know the next steps I need to take. Very helpful video!

  • @lesleygarvs4640
    @lesleygarvs4640 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is totally working for me, Barbara! 😁🏄‍♀️🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️Dr Inaki Pinuel don t recommend it... But you do.. So I started very formal, watching videos about emdr... I did like 4...but then, like Dr Inaki warned us... A bunch of unresolved trauma as flashbacks start invading you... Just as he said.... So when they started... I started moving my eyes(which by the way in itself is mindfulness... Needs concentration... And now whenever flashbacks attack me. I start moving my eyes... But also sometimes to play guided meditation at the same time or your safe place med(for me... Honestly needed more stuff as I was plagued with traumas)... Well sometimes I even forget them.. And doesn t have to be like long sessions, just half minute or less(or more), depending... The flashbacks go away... And if they come back... I fight them back... Thank you!! I did needed a second opinion, as many people complain is not safe... It is uncomfortable, however with your ahh mini series and much meditation... I don t feel so bothered... I rate my discomfort in a scale 1 to 10 and honestly sometimes, I don t even get to rate it!

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  ปีที่แล้ว

      So pleased this is helping and that the ahh mini series helped as well! It is very brave to do on one's own when there are flashbacks... I have heard from many that it helps however!

  • @aliasname602
    @aliasname602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I've been going to a therapist, but starting to work on some things on my own. I've a lot of work to do, and sessions are exspensive.

    • @steveborne9821
      @steveborne9821 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Those of us who need it the most can't afford this type of Therapy. I'll try it on my own.

  • @stefaniasmanio859
    @stefaniasmanio859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Always clear, honest, balanced and so clarifying. Your videos are useful as a teacher's guide, as well! Thank you so much for giving such a high level quality information! This subject is quite new in my country, and it is taking the risk of becoming a fad phenomenon....

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully the therapists are becoming fully trained in EMDR, and then I believe it can be super useful for an wide range of issues and clients. The self-administered can be a little trickier.

  • @sophiahoho8918
    @sophiahoho8918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Barbara for the following comments. I felt much warmth and encouragement. " I wish you a lot of will being on your recovery journey. I truly do. It's worth doing. It is worth taking the time..." "Give yourself the time you need to heal, allow yourself the resources that are really going to help you get there." "I truly wish you health and healing and happiness" Thank you.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome! Thank you for letting me know it resonated. I’ll bring that in more - healing does take time and it is worth it!

  • @N2147B
    @N2147B 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I did EMDR on my own for 3 years. Purposeful but if I hadn’t done it with a therapist I wouldn’t have been ready. Honestly I couldn’t imagine someone hurting doing emdr alone and without support to direct them back to their safe space.

  • @loahyvalley9797
    @loahyvalley9797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very helpful information about the "R" part of the process. Thank you so much❣️

  • @XxDarkRaverxX
    @XxDarkRaverxX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for putting this information here! My husband is a soldier and has PTSD from war. I have been trying to research how to perform this technique because he will not go to a therapist to have it done. I appreciate this so much.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome. I wish you and your husband health and healing!

  • @d1ss0nantBecca
    @d1ss0nantBecca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This really did help me. I have a therapist and we’ve been slowly working through trauma with different techniques but I’ve kept coming back to EMDR and I’m not sure if he’s trained in it (going to bring it up next session). But I do a lot of self-work outside of therapy and I do think I’d benefit from the self EMD aspect, and he can definitely help with at least the R haha.

  • @jackburgess8579
    @jackburgess8579 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the first EMDR exposition or video I have ever seen.
    I liked it VERY much!
    It was helpful and calming in itself, and I will explore the content on your site and also the virtual EMDR site you mentioned.
    Thank you. I am sincerely grateful..

  • @As-yy2xw
    @As-yy2xw ปีที่แล้ว

    This was really helpful barbara.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm so pleased to hear that. Wishing you health and healing.

  • @avaminjarez9438
    @avaminjarez9438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was honestly so helpful and beautifully explained thank you so much I found out this technique today and I already feel like I can jump into it thank you!!!

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonderful! I'm putting out another video on self-administered EMDR on Tuesday, so stay tuned!!

  • @lbburgett
    @lbburgett 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you for this. I had to interrupt my EMDR therapy because of Covid, and I am unsure of what to do. This gave me some insight.

  • @Bijou_248
    @Bijou_248 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video.❤🎉 New Subscriber to your channel.
    I had EMDR in the early 90's and it was very good.
    Prior to that, I had different therapists and experienced more periods of depression than ever. I was prescribed meds and did not like the results! I worked hard to heal myself off it.
    ( Food for thought : Science is the study of behaviour. Pharmaceuticals = multi-billion dollar industry? The high rise in health care & cost! Humans, the experimental colonizational rats in society? 🤔)
    I realized my experience trumped a licensed practitioner's head knowledge before I found my EMDR therapist.
    In short - I listened to my body, spent years in shadow work, journaling, reiki energy work, spirit - soul work. Though it was excruciatingly tough it was also very rewarding.
    My short story :
    I was adopted, not knowing my bio-parents or their family trauma, that unwarranted me - living through my ** adopted family**.
    I wanted desperately to heal myself - and it turns out, by doing so I also healed my ancestral lineage. (Their stories and pains, struggles, many generations, later confirmed)
    From my Existentialist point of view - Fears that we face out there in the world - points to this: That community always brings us back to our home front.❤
    A great book I found helped me:
    Women Who Run With Wolves.
    By: Clarissa Pinkola Estes

  • @digitalmesh
    @digitalmesh หลายเดือนก่อน

    i read on another video that it could be very problematic for people doing emdr at home in a wrong manner and could potentially re--traumatize them, sounds a bit extreme but also real.
    Your video really does explain well the point of positive reinforcement, reprocessing.
    I never really spoke with real therapists, but last few years i did have a fair amount of friends that have listened to my story.
    I also have learned sooooo much from Gabor Mate & Bessel van der Kolk. Mainly from 'The diary of a ceo'.
    On one hand it changed my life knowing what kind of things can cause youth trauma and i know very wel the specific things i experienced that define my behaviour.
    Now i wonder if applying emdr to those memories of many years ago, would actually help me in more than just desensitization.
    But i guess its in the name, reprocessing, kinda like manifesting & meditation in a way. But with added eye movement i suppose that could make major differences in how these new believes would settle.
    If anyone has some thoughts on this feel free to comment- or not :)
    I wonder if leaving comments like this also help in coping and managing mental health.
    I feel its almost rude to leave this story here, weird.

  • @dreamingfairytales
    @dreamingfairytales 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video & the links.

  • @impossnihil
    @impossnihil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This video provides the information I need about EDMR. However, I found the flashing sparkly lights around the section titles really startling and think perhaps to match your calm therapist demeanor perhaps use a section title style to match that is not so "Shocking"

    • @erolfox
      @erolfox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed! The flashing lights are like a disco ball & techno stimulating us while trying to relax us verbally.

  • @brighteyes6585
    @brighteyes6585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was explained really well! 👍

  • @nietzsche4342
    @nietzsche4342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I believe that for small traumas (memories of offenses or insults etc ..) it can also be done alone but for serious traumas (violence, earthquakes etc) then you have to do it with a therapist.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yes. The only caution is for some people, processing small traumas quickly brings them into the more serious ones. Things don't always stay in compartments with emdr,...

    • @user-nt6fy2jr3u
      @user-nt6fy2jr3u 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As someone from a country where earthquakes big and small are a semi-daily occurrence, I'd never even considered that earthquakes could be a cause of trauma for some! How interesting. But it makes sense, because even though it's a part of normal life, it's always slightly alarming and a bit scary. I wonder if the constant lingering threat of mass shootings/gun violence has an effect (a sense of trauma) on Americans too and to what extent?

    • @isocarboxazid
      @isocarboxazid ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-nt6fy2jr3u I live in Mexico City and people freak the hell out even with minor earthquakes after the disaster in 2017. It's surprising that you find it surprising.

  • @mariemccluskey2637
    @mariemccluskey2637 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very interesting and helpful Marie mccluskey

  • @gypsytarot22
    @gypsytarot22 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for breaking down this topic.

  • @Sam-ko3kq
    @Sam-ko3kq 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a brilliant video

  • @KatCanDoRNMCB15
    @KatCanDoRNMCB15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I read Dr. Aaron Becks, ‘Feeling Good’, thirty years ago. It’’s only been recently that CBT has become mainstream. Meanwhile, life has cont’d. to unravel. Please cover real overwhelm and how to begin removing the layers, while addressing the real needs. Thank you! ..hopeful that help has finally materialized.✨🧡

  • @danm7596
    @danm7596 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Just what I was looking for. Thank you.

  • @ZurickDesigns
    @ZurickDesigns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve never heard of this before. Thanks for enlightening me! ☺️

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are welcome! I have other videos on EMDR that explain it more - it might be able to help someone you know one day!

  • @janemorrow6672
    @janemorrow6672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I watched an EMDR video where an instructor was training a new therapist in the technique as I was watching it I ended up answering the questions she was asking and quite suddenly I experienced massive relief. It was incredible.

    • @frappedelimon4351
      @frappedelimon4351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What is that video? I'd like to try it out

    • @jujubadetrigo
      @jujubadetrigo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      which video?

    • @janemorrow6672
      @janemorrow6672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jujubadetrigo I think it was this one th-cam.com/video/L6UvKhLYf7w/w-d-xo.html

    • @janemorrow6672
      @janemorrow6672 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frappedelimon4351 th-cam.com/video/L6UvKhLYf7w/w-d-xo.html

    • @gitanodel69
      @gitanodel69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yep same question please :)

  • @alexcook96
    @alexcook96 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When i tried self-administering it twice, i began to hyperventilate both times. I dont feel safe, my emotions are extremely disregulated, and im functioning very poorly. Thanks for the video ill look for a specialist instead.

  • @carriefurr1
    @carriefurr1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for explaining from a therapist point of view what it is that you do to help the patient during an EMDR session.

  • @musiclovetara
    @musiclovetara 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much! ❤

  • @CarolMould
    @CarolMould 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the balanced view

  • @SouleStunningCleans
    @SouleStunningCleans 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing this was very helpful

  • @yearofthedragonjane
    @yearofthedragonjane 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Are there specific Self-Administered EMDR videos on TH-cam that you'd recommend? I'm seeing a lot of options.. Thank you!

  • @Nicolas_0456
    @Nicolas_0456 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! Thank you!

  • @MegaOmelette12
    @MegaOmelette12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you aware of Bessels work in the body keeps the score? He cites studies and does a good breakdown on its comparison with cbt. For me, it was liberating to learn that the positive effects didn't rely on the therapy relationship or actual verbal disclosure.

  • @Rafael-nc6re
    @Rafael-nc6re 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video!

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! And thanks for letting me know 😃

  • @inthevortex-de1rh
    @inthevortex-de1rh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are my angel 😇😇😇❤❤❤😇😇🎉😊

  • @emmagruner1303
    @emmagruner1303 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, I enjoyed this video :)

  • @chrisnam1603
    @chrisnam1603 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dear Barbara, grattitude from Belgium, so so precious & valuable your video's! may i ask something please : is it possible to not put those flashy lights on, i need to 'just listen' (that is not a problem in life ofcourse), sometimes you show images & textes, and those are so interesting as well, not everyone can handle flashy lights, much thankyou's

  • @kotenoklelu3471
    @kotenoklelu3471 ปีที่แล้ว

    EMDR helped me with fear of sleeping. I have schizophrenia and dreams remind me of psychosis i got scared and got up. I did self-administered EMDR and was able to sleep. I moved my fingers right-left, then i moved my fingers in the form of infinity symbol, them i moved my fingers in the form of the ring

  • @gojiberry7201
    @gojiberry7201 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanted to start because I keep having night terrors, and it will be another two weeks before I get to see my EMDR therapist.

  • @YourBFFMegan
    @YourBFFMegan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did I not even know that this is a thing? Thank you!

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps it can be helpful for someone you know one day!!

  • @ghostpine
    @ghostpine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @NightOwlGames
    @NightOwlGames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i find a video on youtube that helps me, its a line of boxes you follow them with your eyes its not painful it stops me thinking about anything reduces stress for awhile ok its not a cure but helps in some way ease the mental pain.

    • @ktcee803
      @ktcee803 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you have a link to it? Thanks

    • @NightOwlGames
      @NightOwlGames 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ktcee803 its a simple video just follow the boxes.
      th-cam.com/video/OlfQIRJEsYk/w-d-xo.html

  • @oliveostrich903
    @oliveostrich903 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great advice thank you 🙏!

  • @jaymills1720
    @jaymills1720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1. Thoughts on somatic therapy?
    2. Can it be done remotely?
    3. When talk therapy limits or is failing what else do your recommend ?

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think incorporating a focus on somatic experience is quite important. Some people find Somatic Experiencing very helpful (I am not trained in that). EMDR therapy does incorporate the somatic element quite a bit. When talk therapy fails, I usually recommend EMDR, meditation, twelve step groups if that applies, - there are many healing modalities.

    • @jaymills1720
      @jaymills1720 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BarbaraHeffernan Thanks will check! How about short term (6-12 mos) of medication?

  • @sarahpeterson5087
    @sarahpeterson5087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel Kolk talks about EMDR and studies they have done.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, an excellent book: amzn.to/389bsSU. I refer to it in my video, Traumatic Memory Processing: th-cam.com/video/qeURXfroyXk/w-d-xo.html

  • @fromrussiawithlove4980
    @fromrussiawithlove4980 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant

  • @Anne_Onymous
    @Anne_Onymous ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Self EMDR has absolutely transformed my life over the past few years.
    I have a very repetitive mind. I don't know why, but EMDR gets me out of that loop. Even helps with vocal tics.
    I don't understand it and honestly thought EMDR was pseudoscience BS when I first heard about it. I can't believe how effective it is.

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow. Thanks for sharing! There is a lot of good research behind EMDR. INteresting re helping with the vocal tics - that is great! Wishing you the best.

    • @SydneyMorganBeauty
      @SydneyMorganBeauty ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you do this yourself. I can’t seem to find any info 😢

    • @Anne_Onymous
      @Anne_Onymous ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SydneyMorganBeauty Have you done emdr before?

    • @WhyAnything42
      @WhyAnything42 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You say emdr helped with vocal tics? Do you believe that your past traumas caused you to tic? I ask because I have tics where my head snaps to the side when I get reminded of my traumas. It’s embarrassing. There’s not a lot of information out there that proves stress can cause Tourette like symptoms but I believe it can.

    • @Anne_Onymous
      @Anne_Onymous 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @WhyAnything42 Yes exactly. They were anxiety induced tics when I thought of certain situations and things from my past that made me really uncomfortable. It was like my brain didn't want to face the "traumatic" memory or thought.... And the tic was a way for my body to physically release the anxiety caused by it, as well as a distraction (almost like my brain was changing the subject or channel). So I had to rewire how those "traumatic" thoughts were stored in my mind. This way I could face them without having the habit of impulsively ticcing to help deal with or avoid them.

  • @joannar.
    @joannar. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much.

  • @MLCDelux
    @MLCDelux ปีที่แล้ว

    This answered most of my questions & was helpful, I’m still wondering though, what if your trauma event is more like many events from childhood, so many events they don’t necessarily have their own memory… hmmm

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, continual almost "atmospheric" traumas can still be worked with in EMDR. Maybe a little harder on one's own. I would usually have a client picture a "typical" experience - it wouldn't have to be specific - one of those "this happened all the time" and process. Hope that is helpful!

  • @horselover4ever_23
    @horselover4ever_23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May I have the link to virtual EMDR please? As I can’t find it in the comments. Thankyou

  • @lscheffreen59
    @lscheffreen59 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    12:12 I’ve done a substantial amount of therapy in my life. I’ve done a lot of somatic therapy, heart and body oriented therapy and narrative therapy. My question about EMDR, I have been through a tremendous amount of trauma, however, I have very little access to the actual life events.” Meaning, I can’t always remember the particulars about those traumatic events. Is EMDR something that would still benefit me ethough I cannot recall the actual events?
    The emotions I experienced when I’m triggered are enormous and paralyzing, but, trying to explain the actual moment in time, that simply may not be possible for me.

  • @kimleach7651
    @kimleach7651 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for all your videos. I have anxiety and panic attacks driving. So I'm trying to rewire my brain and find ways to change my negative thinking.

  • @Moonberriess
    @Moonberriess 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you so much!! Do you take clients yourself, or do you have a list of recommended practitioners?

  • @florencia2771
    @florencia2771 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The strangest thing that happened to me is that while doing EMDR is that I stepped into my mom’s perspective, meaning I was seeing life as my mom, and i kept saying “it’s not fair.” My traumas were caused by my not and father.

    • @lesleygarvs4640
      @lesleygarvs4640 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because they were evil parents, we call them 0 parents, meaning you should have zero contact with them before even dreaming to do emdr... Or it won t work

  • @lanaroberts9929
    @lanaroberts9929 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video I have never tried emdr although I’ve had a lot of therapy including trauma therapy. However I wanted to try self administered emdr for some recent smaller “traumas” that have got stuck in my brain.

  • @Look4beauty
    @Look4beauty 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Barbara,
    I went to your website but u can't find the free mini course that you mention in this video.
    Do you have a link?
    Thanks so much ❤

    • @BarbaraHeffernan
      @BarbaraHeffernan  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi, are you looking for the virtual EMDR link? If so I will paste it below, but if not please check out the links in the description of this video for my courses.
      Sign up for a Free Trial on Virtual EMDR - bit.ly/bhvirtualemdr
      Use Promo Code: AWAKENJOY20 for 20% off. The program code must be put into the promo code box when you checkout for the discount! This is an online service I have used and I support!

    • @Look4beauty
      @Look4beauty 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for commenting, Brenda!
      I was actually referring to the free mini course of yours that you mention in this video. You said it includes you walking us through a safe place exercise

    • @Look4beauty
      @Look4beauty 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At about the 5:30 mark in the video

  • @bkirstie
    @bkirstie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    with how i’m feeling now, i don’t feel like i can ever experience 🕹. i’m traumatized. my brain is highjacked, as bessel van der kolk says. the fight or flight is out of control. the fear and pain of the past and now and future, unbearable. i’m sick of suffering. i feel so paralyzed.

  • @Lia.8607
    @Lia.8607 ปีที่แล้ว

    So clear and easy-to-follow summary, thanks a lot!! When you mention the simple EMD youtube videos with a moving dot… I’m wondering, does it matter if the dot and the ping sound are moving to the same direction (eg. moving dot is in the right side of the screen and I hear the sound in my right ear), or in the opposite direction (eg. when the dot is in the right side, the audio ping can be heard in the left ear). So does it make any difference? :)

  • @brianwilson1446
    @brianwilson1446 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For those of us who have never heard of EMDR, maybe you should start by telling us what the acronym EMDR stands for and what it is.

  • @saviourjc
    @saviourjc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Barbara, hello, what is the virtual EMDR website you spoke of at the end of this video???? Thx...

  • @dartcree8185
    @dartcree8185 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't get this safe place bit. I am reasonably safe most of the time. But it's not associated with a feeling so much as the lack of threat. I can put myself in mind 'unsafe' situations: Arguing with my step son, going to a class unprepared. Getting a tax audit letter from the IRS.

  • @koreanforforeigners
    @koreanforforeigners 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, thanks for the great advice. How do we do the actual physical self administration of the EMDR ourselves? In terms of using our hands or a moving object, etc.

  • @iljawildemeersch7476
    @iljawildemeersch7476 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you mean with negative core beliefs?