Carnage - We Try To Wire Up The Lexcen... And Fail!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- We tried to get fancy with our wiring loom using a cool motorsport connector and fail dismally.
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G'day from West Australia Scotty😉
When dealing with wiring over 43yrs, I have discovered that sometimes walking away for a coffee or a quiet fire truck moment. Is very therapeutic. Patience becomes tatered, and tatered patience is a total no no.
Distractions absolute no no,
A total juggling act yeeeeep. Feel your pain, currently trying to achieve having had a fuel fire on my right hand 22 days ago.
1st, 2nd, and 3rd degree burns to whole hand.
Just great for running ones own business. Been hard enough for over 20 something years with a disabled left hand.
Tatered patience you better believe it.
Just another challenge, attitude is everything when it comes to doing what you love with cars.
Chin up buddy you be getting it done😉🙂👍👍
Tried walking away a couple times but didn't help. Sorry to hear about your hand, that sounds like a bad deal
@@STREETMACHINETV All in one's attitude, when dealing with life challenges.
A fact you are well aware of Scotty, family means everything.😉
Burned hand means nothing, family means everything. 🙂
Consistency, determination, and absolute faith in ones self to overcome all life challenges is the key for me. Look for your key driving force, you got this spagetti by the undercariage. Balls up job done😊
Red +, black -👍, im always happy to help Scotty😁
Thanks mate
Your a brave man Scotty, that's all I'll say 😂
I looked at all that wire & as a good Australian citizen I said “yeah nah faaark that”… straight to Facebook asking for recommendations for Auto Electricians is my next step hahaha
Your a brave man, venturing down the rabbit hole of the cursed rainbow of wiring. ❤❤
Blue, orange, green, brown, slate, those were the days 😜
Someone remembers :)
Bummer Scotty, thanks for the tips on wiring!
1940 Never let something drive you crazy if you are within walking distance. . .
@19:40
So can we know call you Arnie Schnitzel burger (The Terminator). 😂😂
Spaghetti wars 😂glad it’s you,looks like way too much fun ,should be fun when it’s finished Scotty,love the channel and keep it up mate cheers 👍🛞🔥🛞🔥🍺🍺🍻🍻🍺🍺
your skills and patience continue to amaze me mate :)
Just a few months ago I wired up my own stand alone 1UZ. I was on a massive time crunch which did not help.
I had no previous experience and just dove in. Super challanging but so rewarding when she fired up.
I've had that issue before with those Deutsch style connectors, soooo frustrating. They do have a tool that helps install them in to the plug, but it ain't easy.
It came with two installation tools and ended up breaking both
@@STREETMACHINETV yeah the lower quality ones seem to be real garbage. Hopefully you have better luck with the new one!
How good was it working for Telstra in the 90's! That blue hand cleaner was the ducks guts!!! Also unlimited cable ties. They held a mates race car together back in the day.
It makes sense now how Scotty has patience for wiring, and a love for quality tools. The mechanical side? Here's the big shifter, tighten loosen round it off, cross thread stripped thread, bash it off. Haha, just joking! Sort of, from a shit stirring fitter/machinist!
Lay the labels along the wires and clear heatshrink over them.
They will stay on permanently and makes finding any part of the harness easy in future.
Yep, that's the plan
@@STREETMACHINETV those DYMO labels are thermal printed, so if you clear heat shrink over them they will turn black, but try it any way,
@mickbastin5401 hmmm, didn't think of that. I'll do a test
No they won't.
My Dymo uses the plastic tape which work fine when heat shrunk over. The paper tape type will turn black most likely.@@greencheeksconure
That insane amount of wiring gives me anxiety, I don't have the patience to even start something like that, well done for diving in as always mate. Could definitely hear the aggravation in your voice about that connector, I would have thrown all the toys out of the cot. Thanks for sharing this with us.
The temptation to set fire to the workshop was strong
With wiring you have to break it down into little bits and do them one at a time or you'll go insane.
On (for example) an LS you'd be like "okay I need four ignition wires, four injector leads, the throttle body connector, the water temp sensor, and the crank angle sensor for the driver's side engine loom, so I'll start with the ignition wires, that's eight wires in four pairs, get them trimmed to length, connectors fitted, heatshrunk and sleeved, and labelled."
Get each part done on its own, double check all your work with a multimeter to be absolutely sure, then bundle them into that half of the engine loom and route and secure it.
Then you break it down again for the passenger side of the engine loom - the other bank of ignition wires and injector leads, the knock sensors, the oil pressure and temp sender, the manifold pressure sender etc. etc.
Then you do the "front end" loom - lights, indicators, horn, alternator, starter, a/c compressor etc. etc.
All that runs back to the firewall connectors and boom, you've done the hardest part of any car build with absolute minimal stress and hassles because you've approached it the same way you would an engine build - looked at as one big job an engine build would be very intimidating, but because you know it's actually hundreds of little steps all done one at a time that you can double-check as you go, it doesn't worry you.
Drawing up a "loom map" that shows which wires (colour, gauge, and connector pin #) go where that you can constantly refer to during the loom build is also very helpful. You also have an excellent troubleshooting resource in future.
@@STREETMACHINETV I totally understand 🤣
Ohh wiring... my Fav 😍
Glass half full here- that pipe work looks feckin fantastic!
Can’t wait to see and hear it run. That v8 turbo flutter.
Just catching up on my Carnage fix and find out you’re and ex-Telstra jointer!! I’m still going after more than 30years, and it certainly has helped me rewire some projects over the years.
Keep up the great work Scotty!
I used to be in NDC and did a lot of the major Sydney exchange cutovers south of the Parramatta River, when they went from Crossbar to System 12. Also did most of the Sydney Olympic remote sites before taking a voluntary redundancy after the Olympics and walking straight into a job at Alcatel.
@@STREETMACHINETV It’s funny how it comes full circle, we’re starting to decommission the copper side of the exchanges now, getting ready for them to turn them off between 2025-27 with only NBN remaining!
@@unansol oh wow, because everything is either 5G Mobile or NBN now? That's crazy!
@@STREETMACHINETV it will be soon! I’d better get to watching the new video. I’m looking to get out soon and would love to do something similar to you, if you’re ever looking for a lackey let me know! Love the channel! 👍
Bloody great job Scotty. Except for the fail...but still awesome !
Great tip you can buy heatshrink for those label makers works wonders
Luke from Wollongong.. will get you sorted,,,,, he does Mr astills work and is a genius when it comes to wiring electrical etc etc
Another Friday arvo, another video from Scotty. Great way to start the weekend!
Love your videos mate, I’ve had to have my wagon rewired twice now, that’s completely rewired. It’s an art to do this nicely, you had me at Mill Spec……
Love ya work Scotty and team 👍
How nerve racking is that first cut, I must have checked my lengths 6 or 8 times before I cut my loom. I also moved the fuse box to where the factory cruse control used to be to reduce the number of wires going through the firewall.
Yup, wiring takes a butt load of time!!! I think it took me a week to wire a motec for a Subaru FB20 with turbo kit into a 1958 VW Bus that included having to incorporate a fuse and relay box for the ECU/engine stuff. 2x32 pin MILSPEC round connectors on a custom bracket for maintenance works. It's a mission man but you'll get it done 😊
You gave it a good go Scotty, remember you can't rush these big jobs. Im sure once you put the new connector on you'll be able to complete the job , can't wait to see it in action !
Always hated doing wiring when people used to do their own car stereos, was so much simpler back in the late 1980's early 1990's especially with din type plus, it was mostly plug and play, but adding a equalizer was the hardest unless you have the RCA plus, keep up the great wok scotty don't know how you have the passion and not get flustered and throw the wires to the other side of the workshop ?🚓🚓👌👌🙌🙌👍👍✌✌😀😀
This is why i am staying carby on my 355 😅 the 6al wiring is enough for me
Like the rocksteady reggae beats @8:00 Scotty!!! If you like that stuff get on Riddam Yard PBS 106.7 11am-1pm Fridays👍🍻As for wiring I'd handball that quicker than the great Greg Williams🤣
You are a BRAVE man Scotty. I was so lucky that Haltech made a plug & play harness for my 1JZ vvti.
I don't do wiring. It scares the bejeebus out of me. I recently wired up some new Yamaha gauges for my boat as my old ones weren't working. I got the Tach working, but the tilt/trim and fuel aren't displaying correctly. I don't care so much for fuel and trim as I can feel how much fuel is in my tank and how trimmed up or down my engine is. Still, at least I got the tacho working.
The Haltech 1JZ loom is great
What a way to spend my Day off love your content Scotty keep up the good work mate👍
Funnily enough the A/T and M/T ECU's on my Vienta are the same size. Yes the A/T is electronically controlled.
well its an adventure lol thats for shaw lool thanks Scottie
Good to see you using a quality local Victorian company in GR Motorsport Electrics.
Yeah, I got the heat shrink and the second plug from them.
@@STREETMACHINETV yeah plenty of products from PAT is good but you can't skimp on a connector like that
Just get Matt to do it, problem solved 👍
By the by, my mum was also a telstra liny
Na I'm good :p
LOL
@TheNuggetProject haha 👍
Best sounding v8 turbo engine. #skid-factory’s fairlane
You'll figure it Scotty. I like the Toyota Commodore V8
I feel your pain Scotty. I’ve wasted hours on those multi pin Milspec style firewall plugs.
Got there in the end but some of the connections just didn’t feel right to me. Some brands are obviously better than others. I just haven’t seen good one yet.
Tough gig Scotty. Did you use the "Hassan chop" on the plug which was a dud? Can't wait to see it finished.
Scotty, watching you under the dash makes "my" back ache😖
Not my preferred place and even worse when the car is on the hoist
Wiring is why my project has stalled. Theres not even any computers involved. Just hard to find a whole day to sit down and figure it out.
The horsepower academy wiring course is a very valuable tool. But so was the haltech guide through lockdowns.
Yeah the lockdown series was great. It's just this plug that's not playing the game, the pins won't seat. Two days I wasted on it, the new plug was re-terminated and pined in two hours
@STREETMACHINETV Are the pins sized/specific to the style of plug? This is my experience but I'm a fitter/machinist not a sparky, only seen it not done it myself.
Bill Hooton will love wiring it up Scotty
I'm sure Bill would, but he's got plenty of stuff going on, plus I'm willing to give it a shot. It's just a shame that connector didn't want to play the game
Scotty, hate to tell you how to suck eggs mate but we've all shared your frustration, and I would personally persevere with that connector (I have not used that one in particular), but just checking the following based on my own (bad) experiences :
1. Do they required you to crimp the pin/socket AFTER the wire is inserted?
2. Do you have the pin/socket in the correct half?
3. Check you are using the right crimping tool - some crimp down on the 'ears' and bend them into the wire like a stapler, others put divots in to the sides of the pin (whilst ensuring it isn't distorted - flattened) - also check that your crimper hasn't bent or otherwise distorted the pin/socket
4. Use the (supplied) extractor tool when inserting - some connectors require you to do this to avoid damaging the pin/socket
5. A little bit of silicon/dielectric grease will help you slide it in and won't hurt when it comes to protecting against moisture
Thanks for the list and I did check all of those things and even used silicon spray (but not the grease) on the pins. I've talked to several people in the industry since and they all agree that particular type of connector needs to burn in hell.
@@STREETMACHINETV "burn in hell hahahaha had me cracked up"
Watching you tackle that wiring gave me some nasty flashbacks. Just a tip on that connector... You might have had more success if you plugged all the wires into it first instead of last. When they are all bunched up under tension it becomes a nightmare, whereas when they are loose there is a "better" chance of them staying plugged in.
It wasn't really a tension problem, it was more of an issue of pins just not seating into the connector even when I had a straight shot into the hole. The new connector had no such issues
@@STREETMACHINETV ahh so just a quality issue.
@@DodgyBrothersEngineering I think so
Wonder how long it'll be before Al and Woodie make an appearance
They're about 1800km away
@@STREETMACHINETV sounds like a weekend type of catch-up
@@Peter-yt7xm Better to be workmates And be friends. first than to be friends and work with each other because it never lasts
@@Peter-yt7xmI don't think so, woody has known Al since he was a teenager, I'm pretty sure they co own the skid factory too. Unless you've personally been told that Woody's paid a wage I think they share income based on the system they have.
Dunno, it's pretty hard to find a certified mechanic who is also a videographer and editor... I guess if TSF got big enough to have more than 2 people in the team maybe. Also whilst Al obviously owns Allied, we don't really know what the relationship is for TSF, they could be partners.
Hint Scotty assign all your wires prior to starting then you know if you have enough power wires for all sensors
I did do that
I'm doing the Haltech wiring on my VS atm, I'm surprised to see the relay box will be inside your car. makes sense considering it's already attached to the premium harness, but that the same time, those relays are already half done in factory form in the engine bay.
I'd love to know some more of the specifics around the wiring in the VS.
Will you use the factory 12v fuel pump supply as a trigger and run a new power wire to the pumps, put the fuel relay in the boot with the battery?
Loving the build btw, I'm glad I didn't go the 1uz after seeing yours tho
It has been more painful than we thought it would be
Dielectric grease!!
do you want to give me the old plug ,please .i would like to play with a spare one as im about to use the same type
Woot Woot
Still no that's what she said!!! Think that should go on a carnage t-shirt but on the back
Yeah, there we're a couple missed opportunities here
3:23 thats what she said!
for the reason you demonstrate - I love the idea of a plug, but doing one? been there, done that, oh lord I pray for your eternal soul. You're under the car removing the battery cables and the power feed to the alternator (which, arguably are the hardest things when pulling a motor because it's underneath... something to consider - rather then one plug, do the Holley thing and have sub-looms (oftentimes the reason people go with milspec plugs is you can get a bajillion connections in on) injectors on one plug, sensors on another, coils on yet another - then get delphi or similar plugs for each loom. the biggest benefits are: easier to seal small plugs then large, and if you decide to update to a different kind of coil or different kind of injector - it's pretty easy to pull the on harness and adapt
VR had th700 with electronic overdrive not a 4l60e..not that there is a lot of difference.
Like I always say when I turn off the light in the shed- Fcukn cars
would be more glorious with a 6-speed stick ;)
Nah, not for this car
Don't forget the cabin filter
I'm not sure what that has to do with the wiring, but if you're saying I should change it while I'm under the dash, yeah sure.
Do vr commodores have them?
To make more room in engine bay, are you going to move the Battery to the boot area ? It would make a whole out of sense as it is going to be crowded in the engine bay with the turbo
Yeah, it's getting relocated
You lost me after "Lets whip it out" ............... :-)
Missed opportunity
Use a pin seating tool. Goodness me, surprised telstra didn't issue them.
Different connectors back then, lots of Krone blocks and solder blocks before that
Come on Scotty. Was it Telstra or Telecom?
It was both. It was Telecom when I joined, and Telstra when I left
Telstra would of been telecom back then.
What was that green torana in the background?
It was Telecom when I first joined, and then it became Telstra. Back in my dad's day, it was Post Master General or PMG
@@STREETMACHINETV I never knew it was called that before telecom wow.
I still call that blue and yellow rope telecom rope haha.
@STREETMACHINET
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@arffadailey8055 haha, phones were alot cheaper back then because the telecommunications network just needed to pay its own way. Nowadays it's all about profits 📈
I have to admit even I wouldn’t attempt to do that wiring
Cutting the wires for the plug all the same length is no good. You need to cut the wires to suit their positions. Like the middle ones will be shorter than the outer ones ect.
Obviously you adjust individual lengths as you work your way through
@@STREETMACHINETV sorry mate, I thought you might have just cut them all the same length and thats why it was hard work for you
@@DarrenBoxhall nah, cut them all to start and adjust them individually to suit
@@STREETMACHINETV forgive me for doubting 😅
Was it Telstra or still Telecom?
Telecom when I first started and I was there for the transition into Telstra
You need a young apprentice to throw those tedious jobs at 😂
I wish. Need to get me an intern that'll work for free.
@@STREETMACHINETV carnage workshop youth traineeship program. Come in and learn automotive wiring-it’ll be fun and exciting 😂
This is like watching Brain surgery, good luck
Only one Question how much tyre shine do you need ? I see 3 barrels Wtf you drinking it scottie ? Probably tasted better than that JD S**** lol !!!!!
Valvoline sent us so much, not sure what they though we were going to do with it
Those connectors are an aquired taste Scotty, not really my cup of tea either!
Wiring is black magic shit I hate it
Deutsch plugs.... 😞
Absolutely fantastic until you find you're 1 pin out of sync.
Or the pin refuses to seat
@@STREETMACHINETV And they're effing expensive if you screw one up (we get ours from the importer and the price of pins if bullshit!!)