If men think this doe not affect them also, they are sadly mistaken. In the blink of an eye, you can become a widowed single parent, a grieving parent due to loss of your daughter or a grieving son. Be wise and help women vote these cruel people out of office.
Those risks were always there for men. Women didn't care about systemic cruelty, until it started happening to them. Even then, they still only think about themselves.
Her hormone levels were showing she wasn’t pregnant. They thought she passed both of the babies. She was pregnant with twins. She was put in ICU. Her symptoms were the same of a reaction to the AB pill. Prayers to her family.
Yes , exactly , I mean she made the decision to have a abortion, her life wasn't in danger because of her pregnancy, it was just a inconvenience to her, once she took pills, babies died, but got the infection because of her choice to terminate her babies, now once she got to hospital, I believe babies were dead, so if Drs just removed dead babies they would not be responsible for the abortion. So I do feel that they so have helped her, because technically Drs would not be responsible for abortion.
It is easy to see in 2024. But the Georgia abortion ban went into law on July 20th, 2022, and Amber Thurman died on August 19th, 2022. So, it makes perfect sense to me that the hospital administration had to first inquire of the legal ramification of the procedure.
@@goldmind9399 that’s the right question to ask. That is why the family is suing the hospital, not Georgia lawmakers. Notice you haven’t heard Kamala use Amber Thurman‘s name lately. After the Oprah interview, the family has asked her not to use her name for political purposes.
@@Curt-Gevertforced birthers who want women to be incubators to keep pushing out and breeding lower class individuals who don't have proper resources.
By "they," you mean the voters. And yes, they voted on that law. That's the way it's supposed to work. The problem is that the law should have been vetted by the Georgia state legislature better.
Exactly. They know that abortion bans kill women and they don't see it as a downside. They know that women of color have higher mortality rates due to systemic racism and that's just a cherry on top for them. And if women and abortion providers are criminalized, felons can't vote.
...and then act like their position is the moral high ground. Prioritizing the life of the fetus above the health of the mother who's carrying it....mind-numbing stupidity.
I had 2 missed abortions(when you miscarry but don’t pass the products of conception)years ago. I would have died 200 years ago, and now(think about that statement for a minute)
Exactly, I've had 5. My body just doesn't take the hint, ever. And we've been trying since weve been married, 15 years now. It's terrifying to realize we are not better off today than we were 200 years ago. America is going backwards.
YES AND with reporting and resources like Sister Song, we can add to the waves of other tragedies as first person accounts (I can't even keep up with tragedies happening west of the east coast beyond GA, but is no less or more horrific) to why the current reproductive healthcare policy needs to be legalized human right federally in the United States of America fully. Opponents will use such circumstances but the LEGIT WAVE OF DEATH coming from the overturning of Roe V Wade cannot be ignored in a MORAL society, and I have faith in my community and in humanity that this can be amended and ultimately overturned (or burned down entirely, a working anarchist can dream lol) to create a better, inclusive atmosphere for femmes in America.
The Biden Admin could have stopped this by just publishing the ERA with a single phone call. Instead, they've fought publishing the ERA the same way Trump did. The Dems want this issue to remain because then they can campaign on it. Let that sink in.
@@BramSLI1 the Democrats want this to remain just like the Republicans want this to remain because they don’t want to move forward. The people who paid the Republicans are the same people who pay the Democrats they don’t want forward momentum neither party
The whole reason abortion became a thing in this country was because some racists wanted to minimize the growth of the black community. Let that sink in. If this is news to you, just look up Margaret Sanger and eugenics.
And this ban would be pointless if Biden had done as he promised and published the ERA. The Equal Rights Amendment would give women equal rights to men and make Roe V Wade a moot point. Biden has fought publishing the ERA in the courts the exact same way Trump did. The Dems don't want it published because then they can't campaign on it. Let that sink in.
Men don't have to face any consequences because they can't get pregnant, so women and pregnant women are demonized. If men's rights were denied them, a crisis like this would never exist.
@@tonyahines4554 They died before the law was changed. Maybe know what you're talking about before you respond. I will listen to any true story but this is clearly a lie.
SisterSong's spokesperson is very articulate. I lived in GA for several years and can attest to what she says..and I am white and high income. Unfortunately the abortion and womens maternal healthcare crisis is just an aspect of the bigger issue of mysogyny in healthcare. ALL women are victims of it. All women are at risk, but the 4 to 5 times higher risk experienced by women of color in maternal outcomes also prevails in healthcare more generally. I have a rare medical condition and have barely escaped death 4 times by doctors who dismissed my issues even knowing the validity of my underlying condition. Our system is rotten to the core and it is this rot that enables maternal healthcare deserts, DNC bans and abortion bans. Until women stand up and scream - not, "we wont go back", but rather, "NO MORE" this will not end. Abortion rights are just the tip of the iceberg. Its time to fight back actively with all the tools at our disposal.
@almondeyez78 The hospital should have tried to save Amber Thurman regardless of what she had done to herself. Waiting 20 HOURS to help any woman who is suffering is NOT acceptable. The hospital probably could have used a D&C procedure and some antibiotics to save Amber because her baby was already gone, apparently. This news report failed to mention that the D&C procedure is LEGAL in Georgia because it is a procedure that sometimes needs to be done after a miscarriage. That's why Amber's death was deemed preventable.
Casual access? Married people have abortions. Women in relationships have abortions. Raped people have abortions too. And also: people have sex for fun, money, many reasons that don't include procreation. They always have, always will. Expecting people to stop having sex isn't a solution. Voting, helping people get abortions, and putting with your vote the right people in positions of power to change horrific, stupid laws that do nothing but hurt, that is the solution. Telling women to just stop having sex is just as stupid and unrealistic coming from the pro choice side, as it is when religious zealots say it. People have always had sex, sex isn't just for procreation, and no amount of disliking them is going to change these facts.
Really really tragic and unacceptable. I am a Muslim and have religious reservations about abortion, but medical reasons must be acknowledged and women must be supported. This way of making stern laws is disgusting. In the name of saving babies, they are killing mothers. How could that be acceptable to God?
The democrat party needs to make this a problem. They make a ton of money from Planned Parenthood and other organizations. Nobody is being refused an abortion.
So ut was noted by a pro-life advocate on CNN, although the host made every effort to talk over her, in which case why invite her in the first place? AThe guest alleged medical malpractice in one case because the doctors waited too long to take action. Sepsis is a very serious condition. Apparently the other lady bled out at hme, fearful of going to the hspital. It should always be regarded as appropriate to save a patient;s life, even when the condition is self-inflicted. The guest said that both women had already taken abortion pills prior to developing complications; the drs. did not kill the babies, even if their task would have involved clearing out dead tiaauw. The abortions were already irreversible. It sounds to me, if I received the facts, that fearmongering had something to do with these deaths. But I do believe that, apart from standard exceptions for rape, incest, and dire medical circumstances (one might add coercion, as pertains to trafficking), abortion should be regarded as a criminal act on the part of the provider. cTo profit from the business of death, of killing innocents for hire, should certainly not be regarded as normal and acceptable. But where is male responsibility in all this? Nowhere to be found. Where is the welfare State when it is needed? Republicans are probably too stingy to subsidize girls in trouble, or would rather subsidize the rich. Democrats would rather pay the executioners who provide 'abortion care'. P.S. The CNN hostess declared twice that this abortion pill, despite these mishaps, is 'inxredibly safe'. Evidently it is an article of faith with her.
@@marcusonesimus3400 Abortion should not be regarded as a criminal act, any more than an appendectomy; as has been pointed out so many times, it is standard medical care in most civilized countries (which apparently is not 40% of the USA). Hopefully, time travel will be perfected soon, so you can go back to the 19th century and be satisfed
@@darryldunmore5184 "Abortion should not be regarded as a criminal act" No it shouldn't, but the moraI high ground brigade are fine with women dying over it.
I lost my thridborn baby boy 8 months pregnant in March 2000, and even though I was using 3 different forms of birth control due to the fact I almost died... I found out I was 7 weeks pregnant in October 2000 when I miscarried one of my idenical twins. My heart goes out to all of the families that are suffering from the RePub's that are working overtime to take us back hundreds of years. 😞
What you describe seems to be miscarriage, which is different from abortion. I am very sorry for what you went through...I am glad you got the healthcare you needed to be here today
@@LuZ-rd5yl Thank You!!! Yes, the first one was stillborn, he weighed 5 pounds 2 ounces, and the second one was a miscarriage... I was trying to share the fact that I was 7 weeks along and was unaware that I was pregnant to prove how unacceptable the 6 week 'law' is.
I've got two young daughters. While I'm personally against abortion (outside extreme reasons), I would still love my daughters should they choose a different personal opinion on the matter. That being said, If only for them to have the right to choose...I'll pay more at the pump. I'll pay more at the grocery store. No amount of money would be worth this scenario.
It's republicans who jack up the prices and crash the economy. The prices we're seeing now are due to trump's mismanagement of covid before and during the crisis.
@cherryescobedo each state has different laws. Was it Georgia? Cuz if not then I'm glad you got the treatment you needed, but obviously that's not the case everywhere. Do you even know some red states currently don't even have exceptions for r@pe or incest? Some won't even do IVF cuz state law considers embryos "life" and should the contraception not take, it could be considered murder. So it's absolutely true, unfortunately.
Stop saying people get pregnant. Women get pregnant, and men don't. So when said people diminish women to just people. As a woman and mother, I find that offensive.
Transgender men can and sometimes do get pregnant; if you want to be offended, that's your choice (see, I'm pro-choice!). Nobody's trying to be offensive
@@darryldunmore5184 They are still women, so please stop with the bullshit. Just because they remove their breast doesn't make them men. They are women without breasts. If they want to feel like a man, okay, but force us to call them men because they are not. If you get offended because I don't see them as men, I don't care. They still women no matther what they do.
Hearing that a DnC is criminalized in these states is terrifying. It is best practice in the event of a miscarriage to assure that there is not dead tissue remaining in a woman's uterous. Any dead tissue puts a woman at risk for serious infection and sepsis. I know that many women have had to manage their own miscarriage at home, where they can bleed to death or get a serious infection. DnC's are not only for pregnancy complications, but also for other reproductive issues. Politicians and law makers need to stop practicing medicine without a license.That's illegal, they shouldn't be allowed to do this.
Also after a healthy vaginal birth sometimes there is some retained placenta - and a d&c is used to remove it. My son is almost 18, if i had not had a d&c to remove a piece of adhered placenta within an hour of delivering him (he was totally healthy and stayed with his dad in the maternity ward) i would have hemorrhaged, bled to death, and never gotten to know my child, nor would his younger sister have been born. Banning all d&cs is insanity.
It's not criminalized unless there's a living child in the womb with a detectable heart beat!!! Those doctors knew they were fine but delayed anyway! There is no grey area here!
@@jenniephoenix6969 D&C IS NOT BANNED OR CRIMINALIZED UNLESS IT'S USED TO PERFORM AN ABORTION. Removing retained placenta is NOT an abortion. Stop being to easily lied to!
These aren’t the only women that are going to die from these politicians policy(denied healthcare),,this is horrific and appalling to people around the world.
@@Curt-Gevert so your point is the state’s decide if a woman lives or dies cause the citizens of said state are dictating her well being/healthcare if it’s in jeopardy of ending in a painful cruel death..only in Muslim countries and America is this control over womens healthcare happening…
@@Curt-Gevert in my country 🇨🇦 healthcare is a universal human right (and free)so when we see America let “citizens “dictate(vote)a woman’s right to healthcare it’s really sad how “voter’s/politicians “ get to decide there fate when it comes to there health..sad.
@@Curt-Gevert unfortunately, Georgia citizens are denied the "privilege" of putting anything on the ballot. yup, our states constitution is unconstitutional on the matter. only our rigged gerrymandered legislators can put forth anything on our ballots. we cannot collect signatures to put anything on our ballots. so, when the state legislature is rigged, who picks the courts, also rigged, & the voting maps are also rigged by the very same old boys club...is really is NOT up to the people in the state, now IS it.
Vasectomy needs to be handled by the government if they want to continue this OUTRAGE! 2 of my republican sisters had abortions back in the 70s. My proud GA republican Mother told me in the 80s when I had a pregnancy scare telling me that I would have an abortion. I said no at 17! Never been more proud to be an independent. If you respect women & love any females vote 💙 💙 God bless America.
And what about Biden? The ERA (Equal Rights Amendment) would give women equal rights to men and make Roe V Wade unnecessary. Instead of just calling the archivist and having the ERA published into law, Biden's administration has fought having it published just the same way Trump did. The Dems don't want it published because then they can't campaign on it to raise money. Let that sink in.
No one should have the right to use someone else’s body without their consent. A non-sentient being should never have more authority over your body than you, especially if it is to a detriment to your health. Vote Harris 💙
@@megemart0828 The Supreme Court ruling protects women who decide to have abortions. Most states now require a registered medical professional to oversee the procedure. Before their ruling anybody was allowed to do the procedure. Everyone is saying they are concerned about women's health. Now the women have a real health care provider. Hmmmm explain that to us.
Then why are women being denied care and dying? What city and state do you live in? I’d love to come to you and you can tell me to my face that my daughters don’t deserve rights to their bodies.
@@margaretsaiber4645 then why are women being denied care? This isn’t a game to me. This isn’t a talking point. This is life or death and I hope you feel the same way about your ignorant opinion. What city and state do you live in, Margaret Saiber?
@@margaretsaiber4645 and also, you never even addressed the original post. Tell me why anyone should have a right to another persons body without consent? Would you like to tell me to my face that my daughters shouldn’t have full control over who uses their organs? Because I am more than willing to travel to you. This is a hill that I am most certainly willing to perish on, would you?
@@margaretsaiber4645 also you never addressed my actual post. Tell me why a person should have a right to another persons body? Would you be willing to tell me to my face that my daughters don’t have a right to dictate who uses their organs? I am MORE than willing to travel to you so you can.
I work in health care and turned down a job in GA specifically because of their abortion ban. What people don't realize is that even an emergency D&C should be done by a physician who has been well trained on the procedure, and if you limit it to emergencies you will have trouble recruiting OBGYN doctors to your state for either residency programs and/or jobs. People are so tied up with the "abortion bad" view of medicine that they have no clue of the unintended consequence that these laws will just rid your states of all women's health care.
What law specifically in GA stopped this young mom from getting a D&C procedure after her twin babies were not viable due to the abortion pill she took? My question is why did doctors wait 20 hours to proceed with antibiotics & surgery? She had remaining tissue in her uterus which caused an infection & later spread to her whole body (sepsis).
@@Curt-Gevert Yep, at some point the forced-birth crowd says the quiet part out loud. They resent the way other people have sex. Never mind, this could be a married couple that wants another child (but get the bad news that this fetus has severe defects).
@@franziskani At its core, anti -abortion is really anti-sex. After all, anti-abortion laws don't only effect single women; they effect married women also. What these fanatics are actually saying to married couples is "If you don't intend to have children, don't have sex; otherwise, we will punish you."
Obviously, these draconian laws are going to impact Black women more, but white women are also at risk; women, if not the largest voting bloc, are one of the largest. They need to band together, regardless of party or political viewpoint, to do something about this.
@@darryldunmore5184 So called prolifers (of the Live Action extremist type) don't care about the deaths of women. They only care about fetuses. I hope that's a tiny minority
@@katenoke1571 planned Parenthood was started by Margaret Sanger. A racist that wanted to help decrease the black population. Amber Thurman woke up on September 19, 2022 a healthy pregnant woman. She died after complications from being given abortion pills and turned away from the clinic. She went to Atlanta hospital and was left untreated for 20+ hours. There’s nothing in the Georgia bill that prohibited them from removing an already dead child from her body or using their medical training to recognize, and treat a woman whose life is in danger. Once lying Kamala Harris and the Democrats are done with her on the campaign trail, her family will sue the hospital for malpractice, as they should. Lawmakers did not fail her, the medical staff did. R.I.P. Amber Thurman. Don’t be a tool for the Democratic Party. Kamala will not say. LAKEN RILEY. As she wants Georgia voters to forget about that.
My mom, who had 2 abortions before the age of 18, told me that if a woman wants an abortion she should "just go to a different state". Im so disgusted with her. I told her this was going to happen. She didnt believe me. I sent her the video.
You’re right! Who has the money to do that… people are struggling just to put food on the table, so taking time off to go hundreds of miles to get the care they need they shouldn’t have to
I would move out of Georgia or any other states with these laws. I know people will say not everybody can just up and move.... but if these states had no one living in them to pay taxes. See how quickly the laws would change.
OB/GYN's are leaving or have already left these states in mass. When these so called pro-lifers find themselves or their daughters pregnant, they will be hard pressed to find a doctor to manage their pregnancies and deliveries. Then they will care. Then these bans will become a problem for them. Their self righteousness will come upon them and bite them and they won't like it. I write this as a Spirit Filled Christian who is losing her mind because 17,000 children have been slaughtered in Gaza. Children who are loved, adored, feel pain, feel fear, feel their injuries, feel suffering and terror. And these same so called pro-lifers are silent or cheering this on. They make me sick.
They want to attract companies form other states (Texas lures in companies from CA and offers better taxes). But they need to find the qualified staff that is willing to move there. Some women are prone to having miscarriages. Good luck while still trying to get pregnant. Sure a woman could fly out of state to be in a blue state if they have the money. But IF she is already in bad shape, she might be rejected as a passenger. At least in a regular flight.
State abortion bans will affect pregnant women. If pregnant in an bc abortion banned state prepare to seek out friend and family in states that support abortions health care. Your life may depend on it.
This is why we need to Vote Green! The Dems are fighting publishing the ERA the same way Trump did and this would make Roe V Wade unnecessary as women would finally have equal rights to men under the law. Dems don't want the ERA published because then they can't campaign and fund raise on it. Jill Stein says she'll publish it by calling the archivist on the day she's elected.
There are plenty of other states that allow abortion, some will even help with travel expenses. The idea is to maybe not get pregnant, should be considered being taught.
@@Curt-Geverthow daft are you? Even if it's a wanted pregnancy that was planned for years, miscarriages happen or even after giving birth tissue can be left behind. D&c is not just about abortion and banning the procedure puts every woman at risk. The procedure is also used on non pregnant uteruses to help with menstruation issues. So are women supposed to go out of state to give birth and seek help with menstruation issues? Wtf
Back to the ...1950's, 1960's before Roe V. Wade. What occurred with these to Sisters was a daily story in the newspaper. Someone dying from a botched procedure. That did not include those who were left sterile.
Shame on our media for not covering these cases as this channel is properly doing. The country needs to hear the details, too many people judge without listening.
Down here in Texas... Around 10 years ago because of medical insurance issues for people on disabilities... A lady I knew very well literally threw herself down a set of steps tumbling to the bottom in her fifth month in order to abort the twins that she could not take care of.... As bad as that is.... It can even get worse
@@natashadickson4819 the outcome of the case is... She has at the time already had 7 or 8 kids that she was incapable of raising because of a low IQ.... She went on to have another at least five more kids that she was not able to take care of and everyone was a drug baby...
@@natashadickson4819who pays for the time off she would need to give birth? Who takes care of her kids? The therapist for the trauma of being forced to give up kids because she can’t afford to raise them?
@smolmanth2330 Who paid for her injuries? Who paid for the psychological therapy she needed after her self-inflicted tumble? A person who will self-harm needs therapy.
I’m tired of POLITICIANS and JUDGES playing medical DOCTORS and destroying family lives when they have NO MEDICAL TRAINING or LICENSES. Practicing without a license IS A FELONY. VOTE for SANITY BACK into America. VOTE💙💙💙💙
Blue caused this but you still vote for them? Stupid sheople. Stop falling for the false two-party duopoly. Neither side will ever put the best interests of the people above the best interests of their donors.
No accident. A similar case led to overthrow of Ireland's abortion ban. Similar cases have occurred in Poland. And no doubt elsewhere, again and again. It's not pro life, it's anti women.
In Ireland the young couple looked forward to having their first child. She had a prolonged miscarriage. - But care after a miscarriage and after an abortion often require the same procedures. The same net that catches women that have abortions also catches the women that have miscarriages. The women that vote Republicans will find out now.
This is misinformation. I had a miscarriage in a red state & had a D&C procedure to remove all the tissue from my uterus. This was to prevent an infection & later sepsis which was what this young lady died from. You’re right that in miscarriages & abortions the procedures are mainly the same, except the only difference is in miscarriages baby is already dead & in abortions babies are still alive. Think about that for a moment.
@@franziskani Yes, I think there was such a case in Nicaragua. The poor woman lost her baby and was slapped in prison. Too much Andrew Tate in the attitude.
Exactly! The baby was already dead, resulted from taking an AB pill. Why did they wait so long to proceed with antibiotics & surgery? Of course the remaining tissue in her uterus was going to cause an infection which later spread all over her body (sepsis). I myself was in a similar situation & was given a D&C right away in TX.
Amber died in agony because she had an illegal abortion. The doctors who delayed the procedure that could have saved her have a part of responsibility in her death, and they will have to answer for that eventually. But Amber would probably still be alive if she had accepted that she could not legally get an abortion in Georgia, and had relented.
@@banaloba5109 "because she had an illegal abortion" When did this happen before bans were implemented? She would've survived had it not been for the BANS. Congratulations.
Donald Trump says don’t take these dangerous, life-threatening, baby murdering pills in the first place. Says right on the side of the bottles that DEATH is a risk of taking these pills. Amber thought she would only end one life and ended up taking TWO. You reap what you sow. Y’all women better wake up!
@margaretsaiber4645 It WAS a legal right under Roe for nearly 50 years. Republican extremists in office and appointing judges are at fault for what is happening to women in ban states. Notice that this does not happen in blue states where Democrats have control.
How can you deny medical care to a person suffering from a medical emergency? Regardless if the medical emergency was caused by an abortion pill, the women were suffering medical complications at that point. Dead fetal tissue is a medical complication not an abortion, obviously , as the tissue is dead. It’s sad that the people in this country has become so dehumanized, indifferent, and apathetic , they don’t have the practical wisdom to give medical care when needed.
The Georgia abortion ban went into law on July 20th, 2022. Amber Thurman died on August 19th, 2022. It is more likely that the hospital was inquiring of the legal ramifications of a D&C under the new law, and approved the operation way too late. The medical staff were not indifferent, and did not need practical wisdom, they have not had the courage to go against policies and to go against the chain of command. That is human.
@@banaloba5109 So you wrote all that just to say that the people (medical staff and hospital ) are cowards. Okay got it. Furthermore , they’re cowards and also indifferent , apathetic, dehumanized and do lack practical wisdom for waiting on whether the hospital would have legal ramifications for treating a woman with a medical emergency , not a woman having an abortion. The people in this country have always been so morally depraved the excuse that they’re human for not utilizing common sense and responsible reasoning skills is pathetic at this point.
Question: If this woman shouldn't get pregnant, why didn't she just get her tubes tied? .. seems like the obvious thing to do if she doesn't want to use birth control.
Maybe she was on birth control, and it failed. Apparently, women have also conceived after getting their tubes tied. Is it possible to become a mother after tubal ligation? - Instituto Bernabeu YT Channel comment section.
@f913 Yeah, the fact that in this video they made it a point to say that black women are afraid to seek healthcare is somewhat absurd because it's ALL women that feel this way. There have been studies done and books written by medical professionals that clearly indicate the problem of systematic dismissal and outright disregard of women patients has been well established. And as a woman I can confirm this to be true, and it doesn't matter if one is a patient of a female doctor or a male doctor, the outcomes are still the same. I will never again go to any doctor's appointment without my husband. (I've experienced going to any doctor alone and versus when my husband accompanied me, and I can tell you there is a stark difference, if he's there to confirm my symptoms the doctor will look at him for confirmation after I finish describing my symptoms, and then take me seriously. When I go by myself, I am definitely not even being heard.) It's just beyond insanity that even in the year 2024 women patients are still being dismissed and ignored by the very people that are supposed to provide medical care! 🤬
Lies. AT's death had nothing to do with the Georgia law. She had used abortion pills in NC. On her return to GA, it was negligence of not performing timely curretage AFTER the baby had been aborted, NOT because of fear of being arrested There are 4 clear exceptions in the Georgia law, 3 of which would have prevented her death. No one talks about it. See the exceptions below: 1) To save the pregnant person's life. 2) To preserve the pregnant person's physical health 3) If the fetus is not expected to survive the pregnancy 4) If the pregnancy is a result of rape and/or incest
why are the viewcounts on videos regarding this topic so low? Why are so many people so indifferent to this? Also, all the forcedbirther-trolls in this comment section should go and listen to some Deicide records!
Because this young woman died from sepsis. After she took an abortion pill which resulted in the death of her twin babies, there was tissue still remaining in her uterus which then caused an infection. I’ve been through something similar & I know how crucial a D&C procedure is when there is remaining tissue in a woman’s body. This later caused her to get sepsis because she wasn’t treated right away. The babies were already dead in mom’s womb so why did the doctors wait 20 hours to give this young woman antibiotics & surgery? It doesn’t make sense. Think for yourself & don’t let others think for you.
Hillary Clinton did NOTHING to support the ERA! She's part of the problem. Biden said he'd publish the ERA as well and his administration is fighting it the same way Trump did. The Dems don't want the ERA published or they can't campaign on it and fund raise. Dr. Jill Stein says she'll publish it the day she's elected and put an end to this insanity.
@@coleengoodell7523They quite literally didn't lie. They said that Roe v Wade was precedent they didn't say anything about not overturning precedent which if you've actually read any of American History has happened before. Slavery was once precedent
Sometimes as a doctor you do the right thing knowing you are placing yourself at risk. That is just what you must do, because you took the shilling, and come what may.
That's what I've been saying. Don't take the oath if you aren't ready to fight for your patients and do right by them. These drs are part of the problem. If they all stood together, they couldn't all be fired and prosecuted.
Those doctors would end up in prison. They also can't do it by themselves. They need nurses and an anesthesiologist for the procedure and often they refuse because they are afraid of going to prison too.
For the ones in the comments it shows how these ppl have really brainwashed y’all. For you ppl to think it’s okay to tell a supposedly doctor one that took an oath to save lives that if they save lives there going to jail well to ⛓️💥 I would just be going but definitely not without a fight
My sincerest sympathy to the families of the two women who lost their lives in Georgia. I am so sorry for your loss. I know my words don't mean anything but my vote will.
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Being pregnant is beautiful, and I know we all want to bring our child into this world, but if the pregnancy was not our choices or if it will hinder the women's health then it s/b a PRO-CHOICE! Men do not and will never know the feeling or pain of being pregnant so they shouldn't rule the women's decisions. 💙💙🇺🇸🇺🇸Vote HARRIS/WALZ for reproductive rights!!!
Nobody should have authority over anyone’s body. If anyone is in a church their pastors must preach right so that their members know what God sees right and wrong. Prayerfully , they will have the change of heart if they just want to abort a child. I don’t think any woman should go through this. God looks at sin as sin. Fornication, adultery, lies, abortion etc; God sees sin as sin , none is worse than the other.
@@kellywright5282 They said the mother wouldn't have survived the pregnancy, so you want both the mom and baby to die? Also not to mention, a D&C doesn't only need to be performed after an abortion, it needs to be done in MULTIPLE cases including miscarriage. Which GA has BANNED completely. So if this woman had a miscarriage, she would have died under the same circumstances not being able to get the care she needed because they are making HEALTHCARE a FELONY. It is INSANE.
@@sandywaters1153 the story is a bunch of bullshit...the report is fake victim narrative...they are not victims except for what they have created themselves
Wrong. None of these laws were written with precise medical terminology or input from physicians. None of these laws allow for intervening unless the mother's life is IMMEDIATELY at risk, so doctor's wait. Infections in pregnancy can be so fast-moving and unpredictable that no two doctors will intervene at the exact same moment. Also, none of these laws allow for intervening when other health risks besides death to the mother are present.
This is no single incident (after miscarriages or abortions). Just that most women do not die. They "only" suffer massive blood loss, suffer pain for days, some become infertile or have other severe or longer health complications. Aside from the trauma the recovery time will be longer. The doctors are not at all sure that they are is SAFE legal territory or they would perform a D & C right away. The procedure is easy, safe and does not take long - it is not even a surgery. So WHY do they let the women wait for care ? because the state of the woman has to be so bad that doctors are justified in intervening DESPITE the laws or the objections of administratos. And sometimes that gamble goes terribly wrong. It has to be overwhelmingly clear that the woman is in grave danger before they DARE to do normal medical procedures.
How sad is this? Just realize it can happen to any child bearing woman in your family. You have the power to stop this by voting blue up and down the ballot. 💙💙🛐🛐💙
You mean Trump didn't fulfill his 2016 campaign promise to appoint conservative Supreme Court justices so Roe could be overturned? Try to keep up with the rest of the class.
Exactly! She died from an infection that spread all over (sepsis). After baby is not viable which resulted from taking the AB pill, she should have gotten a D&C right away. I don’t understand why the medical staff waited 20 hours to give her antibiotics & proceed with surgery. I was in a similar situation in the state of TX, except mine was due to a miscarriage & the hospital proceeded with a D&C.
Investigate politicians that practice medicine without a license because this is exactly what they are doing and to think, some of these politicians have nothing but a GED. How can you pass laws on healthcare and know nothing about the healthcare system? Pass a law to stop politicians from practicing medicine.
Ask the right questions where did she get the pills and would she still be alive if she didn’t take the pill, it’s not about roe versus wade being overturned the decision to abort the child is the cause
No. Her state enforced anti abortion laws killed her. Abortion didn’t kill her Georgia’s government killed her by not allowing her to get the care she needed.
Dang, Amy Goodman snapped on that lady when it was time to sign off! She just barked at her that it was time to leave it there! She wasn't even like hey sorry but we're out of time
My only issue with abortions is past a certain point, up to 9 months is horrific. Having said that, no care after incest, rape, and no care after complications from abortion pills…or ANY OTHER PROCEDURE , just bc it’s a DNC on paper is ludicrous. Truly. It doesn’t make me a Kamala voter, just because of this one issue, but it makes me EXTREMELY disgusted…these laws need to change
That’s what you get when you have lawmakers making decisions for doctors. There was a state legislator in Ohio that wanted to pass a law that tubal pregnancies had to be removed from the tube and put in the uterus, which is impossible.
Anytime someone is getting an abortion that far along in a pregnancy it is nearly always, always going to be because of sudden complications rendering the pregnancy non-viable and a serious risk to health. They are rare and tragic circumstances but they should always be considered.
Please understand this: Pregnancy is hard on a woman’s body. A woman is not going to carry a baby to full term or endure 7, 8, or 9 months of pregnancy and suddenly decides she wants to terminate the pregnancy. Should the need arise for a late-term abortion, it is due to a major complication for either her or the baby. When that happens, she mourns the loss of that child. Adding further insult to injury are the people who are not directly affected but now have more say over the matter than she does.
I'm a Catholic and fairly conservative but because of the heartlessness of these laws I will vote for Kamala Harris. The lawmakers who wrote and voted them in failed to recognized women as people. Before abortions were even legal, my mother got a D&C when she miscarried at 18 weeks. She was Catholic, too, but she knew the baby was dead already. There was only one life left to save: hers. My sister needed the "abortion drugs" two years ago when she had a miscarriage that didn't evacuate on its own. She was able to get it because she lives in Canada and then she went on to have my niece. It's like a bunch of men without medical knowledge sat down in a room and banned medical procedures without asking any doctors for guidance and now women are dying.
I wish this procedure would not happen. I wish women would take intercourse more seriously and not just be taken by passions that bring about consequences. Intercourse, consequences. Why not put measures in between intercourse and consequences. Take measures to prep your body to block the consequences of intercourse. This would avoid reckless contraceptive: like very late term abortion. The cruelty of exiting a fetus out of the host at a point when the fetus can live outside the body is beyond cruelty. There’s been over 63million abortions. Not all were grape or inc-es-t. Plan your life before having intercourse women. There has to be well written material to add the exceptions like grape, in-ce-st or the life of the woman. Being afraid is entirely different thing and should not disband the overturn of Roe v Wade. Unfortunately bc some women are proud when told what to do with unborn babies trapped in their body, the government has to bend to these reckless individuals who use abortion as a contraceptive and make this terrible option an option. To these individuals know there are ppl who are advocating for the life you hold within you. There are options other than this method of reckless contraceptive. The best one is no sex til marriage, next best followed by plan for the right person to engage in these unions who is willing to do right by you and your child if a pregnancy is a result of your unions. Protection protection protection even before you engage. Think of intercourse like you are signing up to have a child… bc that’s exactly what happens when these unions happen. The body goes into baby making mode. If you find yourself with an unplanned pregnancy, accept what you and whoever have done, deal with it today; don’t wait - immediately seek help if this baby news is a crisis for you. I hope you would keep it, if not give him/her up for adoption (they will thank you), but do not be that person cruel to wait when that baby is fully formed and can live outside the host to get that contraceptive procedure all bc you are a stubborn host that says her body is hers. It’s not the end of the world to be pregnant with a baby. Many of us have gone through unplanned pregnancies. My son is the best thing that could have ever happened to me and this world, by the way. He’s perfect. God help us bc we allow this procedure. It’s no wonder why America is failing as a country, like a curse with radical Joe/Kamala policies and a divided America. I get why Jesus said ‘render to Ceaser what’s Ceasers and render to God what’s Gods’. Presidents represent a stubborn ppl in a government and have to render to it what it demands with as much percentage that they could to what God meant for good: live babies and this procedure is clearly not that. This doesn’t mean that God will not judge those that do not repent of this procedure, that He will not judge the land where this procedure takes place. 9.19.24 9: 07pm Pacific Time
Doctors risk years ! of prison. or being financially ruined. At the minimum problems with their employers. Or losing theie job. The employers fear to lose public and private funding (for hospitals) and that lunatics will assault them or their premises. The doctors KNOW what the best practices are. And the law makers made it a HIGH risk for them to do the right thing and to practice proper healthcare. - And the voters were too smug or too complacent to prevent that from happening. It is a feature of Republicans ("Conservatives") that they have no empathy beyond their circles and cannot think in abstractions (how does this affect others, even if it likely never will impact ME). These women and men do not think they would need an abortion. And if so - they plan to secretly get one (flying out of state, they can afford to take a week off and to pay for good care). Screw the others that can't afford it, I got mine. But the more states enact these draconian laws the longer they would have to drive. A miscarriage does not rhyme well with hours of driving and they might not be accepted as passengers of a flight. Of course affluent Republican women can arrange for safe and conveniently scheduled abortions in blue states. The mother daughter trips for Hawaii for instance. No protesters in front of the buildings so they can pull it off discreetly and return home from the vacation.
@@moriahpalmas5264 it still no your decision!!! You cannot control other peoples' bodies, do you understand that? Women die because of the abortion ban.
I’m wondering why these women & MEN don’t make better decisions for themselves and their families ….both women were middle age women, not teenage girls…..even if you slip up and don’t use protection take a Plan B immediately, if you know your life is fragile and you can’t carry a child why not use preventive measures to ensure your health is not compromised
White women have the same issues! My mother died in 1960 because doctors were afraid! I grew up not knowing why! I was 22 when the family secret verbalized! It was more devastating! Women need to be protected from the terror that the government might arrested them! USA is not a communist country but the enemy in this government is creating chaos and women are scared of being held hostage! The medical profession need to protect and standby their oath as professionals! Doctors are to do no harm to their patient! Women need to be protected! Love your neighbor like yourself.
God alone will judge what happened to these families and all his creation. God says he knows us even in our mother’s womb. Please don’t use them as propaganda.
Your digestive tract has a biome consisting of tiny entities separate from you with unique DNA too. Parasites have unique DNA. Having a "unique DNA" isn't the talking point you think it is.
Iam outraged & so sorry for this family. My daughter was caught up in this nightmare of her baby dying in utero. She was fortunate that her doctor was supportive but warned her the pharmacy may not fill the scrip for the pill. The nightmare of her knowing her baby was already gone and doing this at home was horrendous. Praise God she survived physically but mentally no.
Why are you more concerned with how the medication was obtained, rather than their inability to access further medical care and treatment? Will it take the death of someone you love, regardless of the circumstances-due to being refused care, for you to comprehend or empathize with those affected by this decision?
This medication is also needed in early miscarriage when the fetus is not evacuated. My sister needed it 2 years ago. Right now, she wouldn't be able to get a D&C, either. This is why non-professional have no business regulating healthcare. Even when abortion was illegal in the US women received D&C as a routine care for miscarriage, like my mom did when she miscarried at 18 weeks. Those laws are dangerous and absurd.
I'm hoping the families sue my once great state of Georgia for whatever legal term is appropriate ; negligent homicide or wrongful death. based on the loss of life liberty & the pursuit of happiness, the 14th amendment, and the spirit of the constitution pertaining to equal creation & equal citizenship as our heartbeat law breaks all of the above. Kemp's heartbeat bill isn't even medically correct in it's wording about the so called "heartbeat" . sue & get this ridiculous law out of my state!
@RamonBawas Some people don't share your religious beliefs. I don't know why that's so hard for some of you to understand. Stop trying to force everyone to adhere to your religious views.
No where in the Bible does it say that abortion is a sin it is important to recognize that although the Bible was written at a time when abortion was practiced, it never directly addresses the issue. However, in exodus 21 it explains that a woman’s life is worth more her a fetus.
Were cases like these *where women who went to hospital and were unable to obtain basic obstetric care* happening BEFORE the ban? If not then guess what.
What did the autopsy say as far as what was in her system? When she came back to Georgia what law would have been broke? At that point it wasn’t a abortion but a d and C
The problem in the REAL WORLD with such laws (even when there are provisions for the life and health of the pregnant woman): It is not like a) the woman is 100 % safe or b) she is going to die for sure. And the doctors and the hospital admin SEE a RISK or they would not wait with a simple, safe and easy procedure that is STANDARD care in first world countries. The woman was not misdiagnosed. Doctors knew the best practices for such a scenario, and it was an easy procedure (d & c is not even classified as surgery). They just figured out they had a good reason to delay it. And likely they were not cavalier about it and would have prefered to be able to do it right away. Their gamble is: We walk a fine line, we wait until it is overwhelmingly obvious that the woman is in grave danger. Then neither a prosecutor, nor the religious nuts, nor our own bosses or the insurance company that covers liability, nor the people that decide over (extra) private or state funding for our hospital ! will have ANY doubt we could have acted otherwise. We might keep our job, not become a a target of (violent) rightwingers, and not be sued into oblivion or prosecuted by the law. We might keep our liability insurance. The problem of the "strategic delay" until it is "bad enough beyond any doubt": even IF there is NO lasting harm, the woman might bleed profusely and suffer pain, likely recovery takes longer. And sometimes the GAMBLE goes horribly wrong. Especially if there is a septic infection, that can escalate quickly and unexpectedly. There are plenty of abortions OR miscarriages that do not need after care. But IF there is a remote chance there could be problems, doctors will do a D & C in any first world country (w/o stupid laws). It is an easy and fast procedure, very safe. Can ward off a lot of serious problem. W/o any laws that hinder them, doctors err on the side of medical safety. Under these laws they err on the side of personal / hospital safety. Maybe the doctors could have done the D & C immediately and would not have gotten into any trouble (not even with management). Maybe. Problem: they were not sure and we know these exact same scenarios (doctors do not YET dare to act, they wait until it gets very obviously very bad) also from other nations with anti abortion laws. Think Ireland and Poland. All nations with anti abortion laws have the provision that the rights of the mother prevail over that of a fetus (or even an infant). In reality if the mood is so rabidly anti-abortion already (quite unusual in highly developed nations) the doctors assume that there will be zealotry. It is not safe for them to use best practices.
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If men think this doe not affect them also, they are sadly mistaken. In the blink of an eye, you can become a widowed single parent, a grieving parent due to loss of your daughter or a grieving son. Be wise and help women vote these cruel people out of office.
Those risks were always there for men. Women didn't care about systemic cruelty, until it started happening to them. Even then, they still only think about themselves.
Amen!
@@SupergirlsBF please give specific examples of this, I can't even fathom what you mean.
@@keke5577of course you can’t fathom 😂
@@MightBeDarren Do you have any examples of women being indifferent to systemic cruelty?
The fetus was already dead so why didn’t they just remove it…that makes no sense
Her hormone levels were showing she wasn’t pregnant. They thought she passed both of the babies. She was pregnant with twins. She was put in ICU. Her symptoms were the same of a reaction to the AB pill. Prayers to her family.
Thank you for asking the right questions! No one else on here is (as far as I know)!
Yes , exactly , I mean she made the decision to have a abortion, her life wasn't in danger because of her pregnancy, it was just a inconvenience to her, once she took pills, babies died, but got the infection because of her choice to terminate her babies, now once she got to hospital, I believe babies were dead, so if Drs just removed dead babies they would not be responsible for the abortion. So I do feel that they so have helped her, because technically Drs would not be responsible for abortion.
It is easy to see in 2024. But the Georgia abortion ban went into law on July 20th, 2022, and Amber Thurman died on August 19th, 2022. So, it makes perfect sense to me that the hospital administration had to first inquire of the legal ramification of the procedure.
@@goldmind9399 that’s the right question to ask. That is why the family is suing the hospital, not Georgia lawmakers. Notice you haven’t heard Kamala use Amber Thurman‘s name lately. After the Oprah interview, the family has asked her not to use her name for political purposes.
THIS is what THEY want. I am disgusted.
who are 'they'?
@@Curt-Gevertforced birthers who want women to be incubators to keep pushing out and breeding lower class individuals who don't have proper resources.
By "they," you mean the voters. And yes, they voted on that law. That's the way it's supposed to work. The problem is that the law should have been vetted by the Georgia state legislature better.
@@TodaysDanteLol don’t tell me you really think your votes or the “people” votes count WAKE UP out the sheep 🌎
Is this what you want? Access to these abortion pills that killed her?
Depraved indifference is what it is… a truly socially sick idea when it is required of people by law.
Exactly. They know that abortion bans kill women and they don't see it as a downside. They know that women of color have higher mortality rates due to systemic racism and that's just a cherry on top for them. And if women and abortion providers are criminalized, felons can't vote.
This
Depraved individuals are against GENOCIDE and EUGENICS via abortion?
...and then act like their position is the moral high ground. Prioritizing the life of the fetus above the health of the mother who's carrying it....mind-numbing stupidity.
@@kiaba360-4 What is a fetus? You do realize that this story is bs, don't you?
THANK YOU for mentioning the second woman who died. Most of the media has ignored this tragedy.
FAKE NEWS. SHE DIED BECAUSE OF ABORTION
I had 2 missed abortions(when you miscarry but don’t pass the products of conception)years ago. I would have died 200 years ago, and now(think about that statement for a minute)
Exactly, I've had 5. My body just doesn't take the hint, ever. And we've been trying since weve been married, 15 years now. It's terrifying to realize we are not better off today than we were 200 years ago. America is going backwards.
@@PhemeTells I’m so sorry you had to go through that. Yes, if he gets back in, we are all in deep trouble
@@yourgodismean4526 and I'm sorry for your loss as well. It's never easy. And if he gets in were definitely fuqd
They’re going to use this to say the abortion pill is not safe.
Exactly.
.....clearly it's not.
Which part of "rare" don't you understand?😡@@runsongproductions8367
YES AND with reporting and resources like Sister Song, we can add to the waves of other tragedies as first person accounts (I can't even keep up with tragedies happening west of the east coast beyond GA, but is no less or more horrific) to why the current reproductive healthcare policy needs to be legalized human right federally in the United States of America fully.
Opponents will use such circumstances but the LEGIT WAVE OF DEATH coming from the overturning of Roe V Wade cannot be ignored in a MORAL society, and I have faith in my community and in humanity that this can be amended and ultimately overturned (or burned down entirely, a working anarchist can dream lol) to create a better, inclusive atmosphere for femmes in America.
@@runsongproductions8367 But it is
Means nothing to the MAGA Senators in GA after all the lives were Black Women .
The Biden Admin could have stopped this by just publishing the ERA with a single phone call. Instead, they've fought publishing the ERA the same way Trump did. The Dems want this issue to remain because then they can campaign on it. Let that sink in.
@@BramSLI1 the Democrats want this to remain just like the Republicans want this to remain because they don’t want to move forward. The people who paid the Republicans are the same people who pay the Democrats they don’t want forward momentum neither party
@@BramSLI1The democrats/republicans nor the government care about women. Wake up!
This has nothing to do with skin color. Women have created this so called problem. Women of all colors have the same rules to follow.
The whole reason abortion became a thing in this country was because some racists wanted to minimize the growth of the black community. Let that sink in. If this is news to you, just look up Margaret Sanger and eugenics.
Sue them. How dare you control anyone's body. Disgusting.
Because she can't control her own body
Like the baby's body? Eh
People try to sue the pharmaceutical companies after the mandated pack scene but they couldn’t. more people were injured during that as well
How dare you murder babies? Disgusting.
You realize this sounds absurd when you realize you are controlling the baby's body right?
Thank you for covering this. HALF of Black women in the US are living in a state with an abortion ban.
And this ban would be pointless if Biden had done as he promised and published the ERA. The Equal Rights Amendment would give women equal rights to men and make Roe V Wade a moot point. Biden has fought publishing the ERA in the courts the exact same way Trump did. The Dems don't want it published because then they can't campaign on it. Let that sink in.
Less than Half but many many.
Half of the women of ALL races are living in states with abortion bans.
Good then maybe we can stop killing our own babies
@@jaiyabyrd4177 and half are not. Why does it matter black or not?
Men don’t feel or
Experience what
Women go thru
This should not be in
Politics
Men don't have to face any consequences because they can't get pregnant, so women and pregnant women are demonized. If men's rights were denied them, a crisis like this would never exist.
@@jeannieves6275 yet the women chose to make it political 🙄
@@margaretsaiber4645Excuse me, the matter was settled. Republicans killed these women by overturning Roe.
@@tonyahines4554 They died before the law was changed. Maybe know what you're talking about before you respond. I will listen to any true story but this is clearly a lie.
@@margaretsaiber4645 No, they chose to make it public so that perhaps other women might be saved the anguish.
SisterSong's spokesperson is very articulate. I lived in GA for several years and can attest to what she says..and I am white and high income. Unfortunately the abortion and womens maternal healthcare crisis is just an aspect of the bigger issue of mysogyny in healthcare. ALL women are victims of it. All women are at risk, but the 4 to 5 times higher risk experienced by women of color in maternal outcomes also prevails in healthcare more generally. I have a rare medical condition and have barely escaped death 4 times by doctors who dismissed my issues even knowing the validity of my underlying condition. Our system is rotten to the core and it is this rot that enables maternal healthcare deserts, DNC bans and abortion bans. Until women stand up and scream - not, "we wont go back", but rather, "NO MORE" this will not end. Abortion rights are just the tip of the iceberg. Its time to fight back actively with all the tools at our disposal.
this is unacceptable & makes no sense . Putting women's lives at risk .
She did that to herself
Why did she get pregnant out of wedlock?
@almondeyez78 The hospital should have tried to save Amber Thurman regardless of what she had done to herself. Waiting 20 HOURS to help any woman who is suffering is NOT acceptable. The hospital probably could have used a D&C procedure and some antibiotics to save Amber because her baby was already gone, apparently. This news report failed to mention that the D&C procedure is LEGAL in Georgia because it is a procedure that sometimes needs to be done after a miscarriage. That's why Amber's death was deemed preventable.
@@natashadickson4819 Thanks for being sane. Your countrymen , are going to make this political.
Sanity is now an abnormality in the USA.
@@almondeyez78 By that reasoning, you shouldn't try to save overdosing drug addicts either.
It makes me sick with the whole abortion debacle. No one has a right over my body
That and now a little boy doesn’t have his mother. What about him? This pro-lifers don’t care about children
Yeah, not even you. Think about it for a bit than reply.
"Negroes are made tools of by lily white politicians among the whites, and by corrupt vote-mongers among themselves"
- Amer. Missionary, July 1887
If you don’t wanna have babies, don’t have sex that simple
@@gotwork77 hmm so what would tell a rape victim?
Ladies 4B movement is essential. No more casual access to our bodies especially when we have to be forced to carry a child.
That's right! Your body, your choice, your responsibility, your consequences.
@@davidowens1424 except for the men who impregnate people and don't have anything change about their bodies zero consequences
Casual access? Married people have abortions. Women in relationships have abortions. Raped people have abortions too. And also: people have sex for fun, money, many reasons that don't include procreation. They always have, always will. Expecting people to stop having sex isn't a solution. Voting, helping people get abortions, and putting with your vote the right people in positions of power to change horrific, stupid laws that do nothing but hurt, that is the solution. Telling women to just stop having sex is just as stupid and unrealistic coming from the pro choice side, as it is when religious zealots say it. People have always had sex, sex isn't just for procreation, and no amount of disliking them is going to change these facts.
Really really tragic and unacceptable. I am a Muslim and have religious reservations about abortion, but medical reasons must be acknowledged and women must be supported. This way of making stern laws is disgusting. In the name of saving babies, they are killing mothers. How could that be acceptable to God?
Why did she want to kill her children
Not your business.
Yes, as this points out there are many different situations where women may need care of their reproductive systems. Women dying is unacceptable.
@@namcleod Tell that to the American Taliban.
Hear, hear!
There are common sense ways of dealing with the abortion issue that would’ve prevented these deaths. ..so very sad
The democrat party needs to make this a problem. They make a ton of money from Planned Parenthood and other organizations. Nobody is being refused an abortion.
So ut was noted by a pro-life advocate on CNN, although the host made every effort to talk over her, in which case why invite her in the first place?
AThe guest alleged medical malpractice in one case because the doctors waited too long to take action. Sepsis is a very serious condition.
Apparently the other lady bled out at hme, fearful of going to the hspital.
It should always be regarded as appropriate to save a patient;s life, even when
the condition is self-inflicted. The guest said that both women had already taken abortion pills prior to developing complications; the drs. did not kill the babies, even if their task would have involved clearing out dead tiaauw.
The abortions were already irreversible.
It sounds to me, if I received the facts, that fearmongering had something to do with these deaths.
But I do believe that, apart from standard exceptions for rape, incest, and dire medical circumstances (one might add coercion, as pertains to trafficking), abortion should be regarded as a criminal act on the part of the provider.
cTo profit from the business of death, of killing innocents for hire, should
certainly not be regarded as normal and acceptable.
But where is male responsibility in all this? Nowhere to be found. Where is the welfare State when it is needed? Republicans are probably too stingy to subsidize girls in trouble, or would rather subsidize the rich. Democrats would rather pay the executioners
who provide 'abortion care'.
P.S. The CNN hostess declared twice that this abortion pill, despite these mishaps, is 'inxredibly safe'. Evidently it is an article of faith with her.
@@marcusonesimus3400 Abortion should not be regarded as a criminal act, any more than an appendectomy; as has been pointed out so many times, it is standard medical care in most civilized countries (which apparently is not 40% of the USA). Hopefully, time travel will be perfected soon, so you can go back to the 19th century and be satisfed
@@darryldunmore5184 "Abortion should not be regarded as a criminal act"
No it shouldn't, but the moraI high ground brigade are fine with women dying over it.
@@darryldunmore5184murder is a criminal act
I lost my thridborn baby boy 8 months pregnant in March 2000, and even though I was using 3 different forms of birth control due to the fact I almost died... I found out I was 7 weeks pregnant in October 2000 when I miscarried one of my idenical twins. My heart goes out to all of the families that are suffering from the RePub's that are working overtime to take us back hundreds of years. 😞
No you didn't, quit lying.
Hundreds of years of GENOCIDE and EUGENICS via abortion in the US?
What you describe seems to be miscarriage, which is different from abortion. I am very sorry for what you went through...I am glad you got the healthcare you needed to be here today
@@LuZ-rd5yl Thank You!!! Yes, the first one was stillborn, he weighed 5 pounds 2 ounces, and the second one was a miscarriage... I was trying to share the fact that I was 7 weeks along and was unaware that I was pregnant to prove how unacceptable the 6 week 'law' is.
I'm sorry for your loss. RIP sweet baby😭
I've got two young daughters. While I'm personally against abortion (outside extreme reasons), I would still love my daughters should they choose a different personal opinion on the matter. That being said, If only for them to have the right to choose...I'll pay more at the pump. I'll pay more at the grocery store. No amount of money would be worth this scenario.
It's republicans who jack up the prices and crash the economy. The prices we're seeing now are due to trump's mismanagement of covid before and during the crisis.
Why can't they choose contraception or celibacy??
@@reejay2098 This is also happening to people who WANT to have children but experience complications.
As a woman who’s experienced complications in a red state, this is not true!
@cherryescobedo each state has different laws. Was it Georgia? Cuz if not then I'm glad you got the treatment you needed, but obviously that's not the case everywhere. Do you even know some red states currently don't even have exceptions for r@pe or incest? Some won't even do IVF cuz state law considers embryos "life" and should the contraception not take, it could be considered murder.
So it's absolutely true, unfortunately.
I'm thankful for the report and may it be shared everywhere. May their names not die forgotten. America failed them
I’m sad she died but this could have been prevented by her
@@KCRookie How so, genius? There is no 100% effective form of birth control; only weirdos advocate for abstinence.
@@KCRookieFAKE NEWS. SHE DIED BECAUSE OF ABORTION
FAKE NEWS. SHE DIED BECAUSE OF ABORTION
Stop saying people get pregnant. Women get pregnant, and men don't. So when said people diminish women to just people. As a woman and mother, I find that offensive.
Don't get pregnant. It's very easy, there is birth control pills, IUD's, Plan B, there are condoms. There are lot's of options.
Transgender men can and sometimes do get pregnant; if you want to be offended, that's your choice (see, I'm pro-choice!). Nobody's trying to be offensive
@@darryldunmore5184 they got ovaries and kitties, they're women, they can call themselves whatever they want, it doesn't make it true.
@@darryldunmore5184 They are still women, so please stop with the bullshit. Just because they remove their breast doesn't make them men. They are women without breasts. If they want to feel like a man, okay, but force us to call them men because they are not. If you get offended because I don't see them as men, I don't care. They still women no matther what they do.
@@Curt-Gevert Precisely, these people are delusional-a man with ovaries and a woman with prostate. Give me a break, what's next?
Hearing that a DnC is criminalized in these states is terrifying. It is best practice in the event of a miscarriage to assure that there is not dead tissue remaining in a woman's uterous. Any dead tissue puts a woman at risk for serious infection and sepsis. I know that many women have had to manage their own miscarriage at home, where they can bleed to death or get a serious infection. DnC's are not only for pregnancy complications, but also for other reproductive issues. Politicians and law makers need to stop practicing medicine without a license.That's illegal, they shouldn't be allowed to do this.
Also after a healthy vaginal birth sometimes there is some retained placenta - and a d&c is used to remove it. My son is almost 18, if i had not had a d&c to remove a piece of adhered placenta within an hour of delivering him (he was totally healthy and stayed with his dad in the maternity ward) i would have hemorrhaged, bled to death, and never gotten to know my child, nor would his younger sister have been born. Banning all d&cs is insanity.
@@jenniephoenix6969 I’m glad you’re ok.
It's not criminalized unless there's a living child in the womb with a detectable heart beat!!! Those doctors knew they were fine but delayed anyway! There is no grey area here!
@@jenniephoenix6969 D&C IS NOT BANNED OR CRIMINALIZED UNLESS IT'S USED TO PERFORM AN ABORTION. Removing retained placenta is NOT an abortion. Stop being to easily lied to!
@@xcicada how come Marlena Stell had to carry a dead foetus around for 2 weeks then?
Black women, please wake up.
These aren’t the only women that are going to die from these politicians policy(denied healthcare),,this is horrific and appalling to people around the world.
SCOTUS kicked this issue to the states to decide, Georgia made the decision. This should be handled by the citizens of Georgia.
@@Curt-Gevert so your point is the state’s decide if a woman lives or dies cause the citizens of said state are dictating her well being/healthcare if it’s in jeopardy of ending in a painful cruel death..only in Muslim countries and America is this control over womens healthcare happening…
@@Curt-Gevertthat would be great! But the state isn’t letting us vote on it. Some things shouldn’t be left up to the state especially human rights.
@@Curt-Gevert in my country 🇨🇦 healthcare is a universal human right (and free)so when we see America let “citizens “dictate(vote)a woman’s right to healthcare it’s really sad how “voter’s/politicians “ get to decide there fate when it comes to there health..sad.
@@Curt-Gevert unfortunately, Georgia citizens are denied the "privilege" of putting anything on the ballot. yup, our states constitution is unconstitutional on the matter. only our rigged gerrymandered legislators can put forth anything on our ballots. we cannot collect signatures to put anything on our ballots. so, when the state legislature is rigged, who picks the courts, also rigged, & the voting maps are also rigged by the very same old boys club...is really is NOT up to the people in the state, now IS it.
Vasectomy needs to be handled by the government if they want to continue this OUTRAGE!
2 of my republican sisters had abortions back in the 70s.
My proud GA republican Mother told me in the 80s when I had a pregnancy scare telling me that I would have an abortion. I said no at 17!
Never been more proud to be an independent. If you respect women & love any females vote 💙 💙 God bless America.
If you say yes to life and don’t wanna kill babies vote red!!!
This is horrifying.
The 6 SCOTUS should be charged and given the Dth Penalty
why? how is that constitutional?
Thank you for letting ppl know what’s really going on. Too many “news” give tRump too many passes on what he does.
And what about Biden? The ERA (Equal Rights Amendment) would give women equal rights to men and make Roe V Wade unnecessary. Instead of just calling the archivist and having the ERA published into law, Biden's administration has fought having it published just the same way Trump did. The Dems don't want it published because then they can't campaign on it to raise money. Let that sink in.
Stop falling for the false two-party duopoly. Neither side will ever put the best interests of the people above the best interests of their donors.
How deluded to blame Trump for what the Democrats have done. They are the ones in power and could have ratified RvW for decades but decided not to.
@@ronstephen-wy4ib mind your business. You don’t know me.
@@ronstephen-wy4ib you've got that right!
A dnc is such an important procedure. For a procedure to be banned in the state of Georgia is absolutely tragic and ridiculous!
What is incredible is there are people who call themselves pro life but will allow innocent women to die and don’t even see the irony.
If they’re republican, they’re not pro life.
Pro life, we were all at sometimes fetus. We should protect the life of unborn babies at all cost
@@memeduck266 if it’s a choice between the mother and unborn child, the mother comes first for me.
@@memeduck266 You ever put that to the test? Easy to say that when it isn’t you or a woman you love dying because of a pregnancy.
@@clairefrier2353 you’d probably put yourself before your own child also.
No one should have the right to use someone else’s body without their consent. A non-sentient being should never have more authority over your body than you, especially if it is to a detriment to your health. Vote Harris 💙
@@megemart0828 The Supreme Court ruling protects women who decide to have abortions. Most states now require a registered medical professional to oversee the procedure. Before their ruling anybody was allowed to do the procedure. Everyone is saying they are concerned about women's health. Now the women have a real health care provider. Hmmmm explain that to us.
Then why are women being denied care and dying? What city and state do you live in? I’d love to come to you and you can tell me to my face that my daughters don’t deserve rights to their bodies.
@@margaretsaiber4645 then why are women being denied care? This isn’t a game to me. This isn’t a talking point. This is life or death and I hope you feel the same way about your ignorant opinion. What city and state do you live in, Margaret Saiber?
@@margaretsaiber4645 and also, you never even addressed the original post. Tell me why anyone should have a right to another persons body without consent? Would you like to tell me to my face that my daughters shouldn’t have full control over who uses their organs? Because I am more than willing to travel to you. This is a hill that I am most certainly willing to perish on, would you?
@@margaretsaiber4645 also you never addressed my actual post. Tell me why a person should have a right to another persons body? Would you be willing to tell me to my face that my daughters don’t have a right to dictate who uses their organs? I am MORE than willing to travel to you so you can.
This is so heartbreaking 💔. Im so tired of all of this.
My condolences to the family.
I work in health care and turned down a job in GA specifically because of their abortion ban. What people don't realize is that even an emergency D&C should be done by a physician who has been well trained on the procedure, and if you limit it to emergencies you will have trouble recruiting OBGYN doctors to your state for either residency programs and/or jobs. People are so tied up with the "abortion bad" view of medicine that they have no clue of the unintended consequence that these laws will just rid your states of all women's health care.
What law specifically in GA stopped this young mom from getting a D&C procedure after her twin babies were not viable due to the abortion pill she took? My question is why did doctors wait 20 hours to proceed with antibiotics & surgery? She had remaining tissue in her uterus which caused an infection & later spread to her whole body (sepsis).
These laws are cruel and insane
The idea is to maybe not get pregnant, should be considered being taught.
@@Curt-Gevertdoesn't matter pregnancy happens, circumstances happen and it's between a women and her doctor not you
@@Curt-Gevert Yep, at some point the forced-birth crowd says the quiet part out loud. They resent the way other people have sex. Never mind, this could be a married couple that wants another child (but get the bad news that this fetus has severe defects).
What law? She got her abortion pill to kill her babies and died from it. What law are you talking about?
@@franziskani At its core, anti -abortion is really anti-sex. After all, anti-abortion laws don't only effect single women; they effect married women also. What these fanatics are actually saying to married couples is "If you don't intend to have children, don't have sex; otherwise, we will punish you."
Do the lives of black women matter enough to lose Trump Georgia? I hope so. We warned that this would happen. RIP Amber and Candi.
Do black babies in the womb matter? No , I guess they don't because people rip them apart.
Obviously, these draconian laws are going to impact Black women more, but white women are also at risk; women, if not the largest voting bloc, are one of the largest. They need to band together, regardless of party or political viewpoint, to do something about this.
@@darryldunmore5184 So called prolifers (of the Live Action extremist type) don't care about the deaths of women. They only care about fetuses. I hope that's a tiny minority
@@katenoke1571 planned Parenthood was started by Margaret Sanger. A racist that wanted to help decrease the black population. Amber Thurman woke up on September 19, 2022 a healthy pregnant woman. She died after complications from being given abortion pills and turned away from the clinic. She went to Atlanta hospital and was left untreated for 20+ hours. There’s nothing in the Georgia bill that prohibited them from removing an already dead child from her body or using their medical training to recognize, and treat a woman whose life is in danger. Once lying Kamala Harris and the Democrats are done with her on the campaign trail, her family will sue the hospital for malpractice, as they should. Lawmakers did not fail her, the medical staff did. R.I.P. Amber Thurman. Don’t be a tool for the Democratic Party. Kamala will not say. LAKEN RILEY. As she wants Georgia voters to forget about that.
Black women will just stop having sex easy solution. Aint shit for black women to choose from anyway. 🤪
Should be sued for malpractice
The idea is to maybe not get pregnant, should be considered being taught.
My mom, who had 2 abortions before the age of 18, told me that if a woman wants an abortion she should "just go to a different state". Im so disgusted with her. I told her this was going to happen. She didnt believe me. I sent her the video.
You’re right! Who has the money to do that… people are struggling just to put food on the table, so taking time off to go hundreds of miles to get the care they need they shouldn’t have to
Sounds like she seriously has an empathy deficit. I am so sorry to hear this. I would be disgusted too.
The idea is to maybe not get pregnant, should be considered being taught.
@@Curt-Gevert tell me you're daft by not telling me you're daft.
Why didn’t she close her legs
I would move out of Georgia or any other states with these laws. I know people will say not everybody can just up and move.... but if these states had no one living in them to pay taxes. See how quickly the laws would change.
If Republicans win in 2024, it will be EVERY state. We have to kick them out of politics until they change direction.
OB/GYN's are leaving or have already left these states in mass. When these so called pro-lifers find themselves or their daughters pregnant, they will be hard pressed to find a doctor to manage their pregnancies and deliveries. Then they will care. Then these bans will become a problem for them. Their self righteousness will come upon them and bite them and they won't like it. I write this as a Spirit Filled Christian who is losing her mind because 17,000 children have been slaughtered in Gaza. Children who are loved, adored, feel pain, feel fear, feel their injuries, feel suffering and terror. And these same so called pro-lifers are silent or cheering this on. They make me sick.
They want to attract companies form other states (Texas lures in companies from CA and offers better taxes). But they need to find the qualified staff that is willing to move there. Some women are prone to having miscarriages. Good luck while still trying to get pregnant. Sure a woman could fly out of state to be in a blue state if they have the money. But IF she is already in bad shape, she might be rejected as a passenger. At least in a regular flight.
Bingo❗️🎯 Esp, being a black woman. Our lives are dependent upon being a resident of a state that protect the right to abortion.
State abortion bans will affect pregnant women. If pregnant in an bc abortion banned state prepare to seek out friend and family in states that support abortions health care. Your life may depend on it.
This is why we need to Vote Green! The Dems are fighting publishing the ERA the same way Trump did and this would make Roe V Wade unnecessary as women would finally have equal rights to men under the law. Dems don't want the ERA published because then they can't campaign and fund raise on it. Jill Stein says she'll publish it by calling the archivist on the day she's elected.
There are plenty of other states that allow abortion, some will even help with travel expenses. The idea is to maybe not get pregnant, should be considered being taught.
The idea should be to not impregnate people @@Curt-Gevert
@@Curt-Geverthow daft are you? Even if it's a wanted pregnancy that was planned for years, miscarriages happen or even after giving birth tissue can be left behind. D&c is not just about abortion and banning the procedure puts every woman at risk. The procedure is also used on non pregnant uteruses to help with menstruation issues. So are women supposed to go out of state to give birth and seek help with menstruation issues? Wtf
Back to the ...1950's, 1960's before Roe V. Wade. What occurred with these to Sisters was a daily story in the newspaper. Someone dying from a botched procedure. That did not include those who were left sterile.
history repeats....
Shame on our media for not covering these cases as this channel is properly doing. The country needs to hear the details, too many people judge without listening.
Down here in Texas... Around 10 years ago because of medical insurance issues for people on disabilities... A lady I knew very well literally threw herself down a set of steps tumbling to the bottom in her fifth month in order to abort the twins that she could not take care of.... As bad as that is.... It can even get worse
What was the outcome of that case? Maybe she could have put them up for adoption instead of harming herself.
@@natashadickson4819 the outcome of the case is... She has at the time already had 7 or 8 kids that she was incapable of raising because of a low IQ.... She went on to have another at least five more kids that she was not able to take care of and everyone was a drug baby...
@@natashadickson4819who pays for the time off she would need to give birth? Who takes care of her kids? The therapist for the trauma of being forced to give up kids because she can’t afford to raise them?
@smolmanth2330 Who paid for her injuries? Who paid for the psychological therapy she needed after her self-inflicted tumble? A person who will self-harm needs therapy.
This one loves hangers and brood mares.
If you don’t want to get pregnant, don’t have sex, if you want to have sex used protección is your body and your responsibility, not the society.
VASECTOMY
I’m tired of POLITICIANS and JUDGES playing medical DOCTORS and destroying family lives when they have NO MEDICAL TRAINING or LICENSES.
Practicing without a license IS A FELONY.
VOTE for SANITY BACK into America.
VOTE💙💙💙💙
Blue caused this but you still vote for them? Stupid sheople. Stop falling for the false two-party duopoly. Neither side will ever put the best interests of the people above the best interests of their donors.
As far as judges, the SCOTUS kicked this issue to the states to decide, Georgia made the decision. This should be handled by the citizens of Georgia.
No accident. A similar case led to overthrow of Ireland's abortion ban. Similar cases have occurred in Poland. And no doubt elsewhere, again and again. It's not pro life, it's anti women.
Don't get pregnant. It's very easy, there is birth control pills, IUD's, Plan B, there are condoms. There are lot's of options.
In Ireland the young couple looked forward to having their first child. She had a prolonged miscarriage. - But care after a miscarriage and after an abortion often require the same procedures. The same net that catches women that have abortions also catches the women that have miscarriages. The women that vote Republicans will find out now.
This is misinformation. I had a miscarriage in a red state & had a D&C procedure to remove all the tissue from my uterus. This was to prevent an infection & later sepsis which was what this young lady died from. You’re right that in miscarriages & abortions the procedures are mainly the same, except the only difference is in miscarriages baby is already dead & in abortions babies are still alive. Think about that for a moment.
@@franziskani Yes, I think there was such a case in Nicaragua. The poor woman lost her baby and was slapped in prison. Too much Andrew Tate in the attitude.
Amber died in agony, waiting 20 hours for help from doctors. Criminal
Exactly! The baby was already dead, resulted from taking an AB pill. Why did they wait so long to proceed with antibiotics & surgery? Of course the remaining tissue in her uterus was going to cause an infection which later spread all over her body (sepsis). I myself was in a similar situation & was given a D&C right away in TX.
Amber died in agony because she had an illegal abortion. The doctors who delayed the procedure that could have saved her have a part of responsibility in her death, and they will have to answer for that eventually. But Amber would probably still be alive if she had accepted that she could not legally get an abortion in Georgia, and had relented.
@@banaloba5109 "because she had an illegal abortion"
When did this happen before bans were implemented? She would've survived had it not been for the BANS. Congratulations.
The murderer is the one that took the pills so it's on her
This is a shame, women we need to look out for ourselves and each other. Vote 💙💙💙 Donald Trump does not care, wake up!!!!
Donald Trump says don’t take these dangerous, life-threatening, baby murdering pills in the first place. Says right on the side of the bottles that DEATH is a risk of taking these pills. Amber thought she would only end one life and ended up taking TWO. You reap what you sow. Y’all women better wake up!
😢this is so sad my ❤ go’s out to you all man this makes me so mad vote 💙let’s fix this
It really doesn't matter what party people vote for. Nobody can make it a legal Right. If you're being told different than you're voting for a liar.
@margaretsaiber4645 It WAS a legal right under Roe for nearly 50 years. Republican extremists in office and appointing judges are at fault for what is happening to women in ban states. Notice that this does not happen in blue states where Democrats have control.
Stop falling for the false two-party duopoly. Neither side will ever put the best interests of the people above the best interests of their donors.
It's your state and not the federal gov't that determines these laws.
My wife had an ectotic pregnancy 10 years ago in a now abortion banned state.
12 year old in Texas gave birth to her mothers boyfriends baby in Texas. The mother is in jail.
Meanwhile, here in my "shithole" Caribbean country.....none of that bullshIt. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How can you deny medical care to a person suffering from a medical emergency? Regardless if the medical emergency was caused by an abortion pill, the women were suffering medical complications at that point. Dead fetal tissue is a medical complication not an abortion, obviously , as the tissue is dead. It’s sad that the people in this country has become so dehumanized, indifferent, and apathetic , they don’t have the practical wisdom to give medical care when needed.
The Georgia abortion ban went into law on July 20th, 2022. Amber Thurman died on August 19th, 2022. It is more likely that the hospital was inquiring of the legal ramifications of a D&C under the new law, and approved the operation way too late. The medical staff were not indifferent, and did not need practical wisdom, they have not had the courage to go against policies and to go against the chain of command. That is human.
@@banaloba5109 So you wrote all that just to say that the people (medical staff and hospital ) are cowards. Okay got it. Furthermore , they’re cowards and also indifferent , apathetic, dehumanized and do lack practical wisdom for waiting on whether the hospital would have legal ramifications for treating a woman with a medical emergency , not a woman having an abortion. The people in this country have always been so morally depraved the excuse that they’re human for not utilizing common sense and responsible reasoning skills is pathetic at this point.
You need the right to your own body!
Don't get pregnant. It's very easy, there is birth control pills, IUD's, Plan B, there are condoms. There are lot's of options.
Question: If this woman shouldn't get pregnant, why didn't she just get her tubes tied? .. seems
like the obvious thing to do if she doesn't want to use birth control.
Maybe she was on birth control, and it failed. Apparently, women have also conceived after getting their tubes tied. Is it possible to become a mother after tubal ligation? - Instituto Bernabeu YT Channel comment section.
Brian Kemp this is on your hands too
In general, people think twice before going to the doctor in this country because they don't receive proper care and don't feel heard or respected
@f913
Yeah, the fact that in this video they made it a point to say that black women are afraid to seek healthcare is somewhat absurd because it's ALL women that feel this way.
There have been studies done and books written by medical professionals that clearly indicate the problem of systematic dismissal and outright disregard of women patients has been well established.
And as a woman I can confirm this to be true, and it doesn't matter if one is a patient of a female doctor or a male doctor, the outcomes are still the same. I will never again go to any doctor's appointment without my husband. (I've experienced going to any doctor alone and versus when my husband accompanied me, and I can tell you there is a stark difference, if he's there to confirm my symptoms the doctor will look at him for confirmation after I finish describing my symptoms, and then take me seriously. When I go by myself, I am definitely not even being heard.)
It's just beyond insanity that even in the year 2024 women patients are still being dismissed and ignored by the very people that are supposed to provide medical care! 🤬
Lies. AT's death had nothing to do with the Georgia law. She had used abortion pills in NC. On her return to GA, it was negligence of not performing timely curretage AFTER the baby had been aborted, NOT because of fear of being arrested There are 4 clear exceptions in the Georgia law, 3 of which would have prevented her death. No one talks about it. See the exceptions below:
1) To save the pregnant person's life.
2) To preserve the pregnant person's physical health
3) If the fetus is not expected to survive the pregnancy
4) If the pregnancy is a result of rape and/or incest
why are the viewcounts on videos regarding this topic so low? Why are so many people so indifferent to this? Also, all the forcedbirther-trolls in this comment section should go and listen to some Deicide records!
It's bs designed to keep you distracted
Because this young woman died from sepsis. After she took an abortion pill which resulted in the death of her twin babies, there was tissue still remaining in her uterus which then caused an infection. I’ve been through something similar & I know how crucial a D&C procedure is when there is remaining tissue in a woman’s body. This later caused her to get sepsis because she wasn’t treated right away. The babies were already dead in mom’s womb so why did the doctors wait 20 hours to give this young woman antibiotics & surgery? It doesn’t make sense. Think for yourself & don’t let others think for you.
God bless Monica Simpson! Thank you verbalizing the problems !
Hilary Clinton told you. White women voted for trump and there goes the Supreme Court appointments.
Hillary Clinton did NOTHING to support the ERA! She's part of the problem. Biden said he'd publish the ERA as well and his administration is fighting it the same way Trump did. The Dems don't want the ERA published or they can't campaign on it and fund raise. Dr. Jill Stein says she'll publish it the day she's elected and put an end to this insanity.
And those mo fos lied on the stand, saying that they wouldn't do exactly what they did once they were appointed.
@@coleengoodell7523 hey, they have to raise money, right? That's why I'm voting Green from now on!
@@coleengoodell7523They quite literally didn't lie. They said that Roe v Wade was precedent they didn't say anything about not overturning precedent which if you've actually read any of American History has happened before. Slavery was once precedent
@@ThisisKyle They were explicitly asked if they would vote to overturn it.
She is using Amber death for political purposes
Sometimes as a doctor you do the right thing knowing you are placing yourself at risk. That is just what you must do, because you took the shilling, and come what may.
That's what I've been saying. Don't take the oath if you aren't ready to fight for your patients and do right by them. These drs are part of the problem. If they all stood together, they couldn't all be fired and prosecuted.
Don't forget to mention the fact that they quite literally were not placing themselves at any risk if they were to perform the D&C
Those doctors would end up in prison. They also can't do it by themselves. They need nurses and an anesthesiologist for the procedure and often they refuse because they are afraid of going to prison too.
For the ones in the comments it shows how these ppl have really brainwashed y’all. For you ppl to think it’s okay to tell a supposedly doctor one that took an oath to save lives that if they save lives there going to jail well to ⛓️💥 I would just be going but definitely not without a fight
Exactly! People can’t think for themselves & ask the right questions!
My sincerest sympathy to the families of the two women who lost their lives in Georgia. I am so sorry for your loss. I know my words don't mean anything but my vote will.
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Being pregnant is beautiful, and I know we all want to bring our child into this world, but if the pregnancy was not our choices or if it will hinder the women's health then it s/b a PRO-CHOICE! Men do not and will never know the feeling or pain of being pregnant so they shouldn't rule the women's decisions. 💙💙🇺🇸🇺🇸Vote HARRIS/WALZ for reproductive rights!!!
Nobody should have authority over anyone’s body. If anyone is in a church their pastors must preach right so that their members know what God sees right and wrong. Prayerfully , they will have the change of heart if they just want to abort a child. I don’t think any woman should go through this. God looks at sin as sin. Fornication, adultery, lies, abortion etc; God sees sin as sin , none is worse than the other.
So it okay for the mother to kill her child.... please make your statement... make sense?????
@@kellywright5282 They said the mother wouldn't have survived the pregnancy, so you want both the mom and baby to die? Also not to mention, a D&C doesn't only need to be performed after an abortion, it needs to be done in MULTIPLE cases including miscarriage. Which GA has BANNED completely. So if this woman had a miscarriage, she would have died under the same circumstances not being able to get the care she needed because they are making HEALTHCARE a FELONY. It is INSANE.
To believe this, one would first have to accept thay have no control over their own body. Weird.
@@kellywright5282 Why don't you pay attention to the story instead of asking stupid questions?
@@sandywaters1153 the story is a bunch of bullshit...the report is fake victim narrative...they are not victims except for what they have created themselves
This needs to be changed to Trumps Abortion Ban. He did this
Trump didn’t tell her to take highly risky baby murdering pills.
This woman could've gotten the D&C. The law would allow it for her. The doctors are the ones directly responsible
It’s the leftist having to push it all being about abortions. They would not deny medical care because of this. Their lies are just disgusting
Wrong. None of these laws were written with precise medical terminology or input from physicians. None of these laws allow for intervening unless the mother's life is IMMEDIATELY at risk, so doctor's wait. Infections in pregnancy can be so fast-moving and unpredictable that no two doctors will intervene at the exact same moment. Also, none of these laws allow for intervening when other health risks besides death to the mother are present.
This is no single incident (after miscarriages or abortions). Just that most women do not die. They "only" suffer massive blood loss, suffer pain for days, some become infertile or have other severe or longer health complications. Aside from the trauma the recovery time will be longer. The doctors are not at all sure that they are is SAFE legal territory or they would perform a D & C right away. The procedure is easy, safe and does not take long - it is not even a surgery. So WHY do they let the women wait for care ? because the state of the woman has to be so bad that doctors are justified in intervening DESPITE the laws or the objections of administratos. And sometimes that gamble goes terribly wrong.
It has to be overwhelmingly clear that the woman is in grave danger before they DARE to do normal medical procedures.
The BAN is responsible. That's why lreIand changed their idiotic abortion laws over a decade ago. There's historical precedent!
How sad is this? Just realize it can happen to any child bearing woman in your family. You have the power to stop this by voting blue up and down the ballot. 💙💙🛐🛐💙
This has nothing to do with Trump. Georgia bears this guilt. Also the doctors should have taken care of her. The baby was dead.
You mean Trump didn't fulfill his 2016 campaign promise to appoint conservative Supreme Court justices so Roe could be overturned? Try to keep up with the rest of the class.
Exactly! She died from an infection that spread all over (sepsis). After baby is not viable which resulted from taking the AB pill, she should have gotten a D&C right away. I don’t understand why the medical staff waited 20 hours to give her antibiotics & proceed with surgery. I was in a similar situation in the state of TX, except mine was due to a miscarriage & the hospital proceeded with a D&C.
Investigate politicians that practice medicine without a license because this is exactly what they are doing and to think, some of these politicians have nothing but a GED. How can you pass laws on healthcare and know nothing about the healthcare system? Pass a law to stop politicians from practicing medicine.
Ask the right questions where did she get the pills and would she still be alive if she didn’t take the pill, it’s not about roe versus wade being overturned the decision to abort the child is the cause
No. Her state enforced anti abortion laws killed her. Abortion didn’t kill her Georgia’s government killed her by not allowing her to get the care she needed.
@@keithroot9761 laws don’t kill choices do she didn’t have to have a abortion she chose to
Dang, Amy Goodman snapped on that lady when it was time to sign off! She just barked at her that it was time to leave it there! She wasn't even like hey sorry but we're out of time
My only issue with abortions is past a certain point, up to 9 months is horrific.
Having said that, no care after incest, rape, and no care after complications from abortion pills…or ANY OTHER PROCEDURE , just bc it’s a DNC on paper is ludicrous. Truly.
It doesn’t make me a Kamala voter, just because of this one issue, but it makes me EXTREMELY disgusted…these laws need to change
That’s what you get when you have lawmakers making decisions for doctors. There was a state legislator in Ohio that wanted to pass a law that tubal pregnancies had to be removed from the tube and put in the uterus, which is impossible.
Anytime someone is getting an abortion that far along in a pregnancy it is nearly always, always going to be because of sudden complications rendering the pregnancy non-viable and a serious risk to health. They are rare and tragic circumstances but they should always be considered.
That almost never happens though, unless the birth poses a danger to the mother.
Please understand this: Pregnancy is hard on a woman’s body. A woman is not going to carry a baby to full term or endure 7, 8, or 9 months of pregnancy and suddenly decides she wants to terminate the pregnancy. Should the need arise for a late-term abortion, it is due to a major complication for either her or the baby. When that happens, she mourns the loss of that child. Adding further insult to injury are the people who are not directly affected but now have more say over the matter than she does.
I'm a Catholic and fairly conservative but because of the heartlessness of these laws I will vote for Kamala Harris. The lawmakers who wrote and voted them in failed to recognized women as people.
Before abortions were even legal, my mother got a D&C when she miscarried at 18 weeks. She was Catholic, too, but she knew the baby was dead already. There was only one life left to save: hers.
My sister needed the "abortion drugs" two years ago when she had a miscarriage that didn't evacuate on its own. She was able to get it because she lives in Canada and then she went on to have my niece.
It's like a bunch of men without medical knowledge sat down in a room and banned medical procedures without asking any doctors for guidance and now women are dying.
This duopoly will not solve anything.
Untited States of Vatican!😂
United States of Racism 😢
Pretty close. Six of the nine Supreme Court justices are Catholic.
Why you are blaming Trump?
because he did this.
He didn’t force her or even suggest to her to take those baby murdering pills. She did all that herself.
I wish this procedure would not happen. I wish women would take intercourse more seriously and not just be taken by passions that bring about consequences.
Intercourse, consequences.
Why not put measures in between intercourse and consequences. Take measures to prep your body to block the consequences of intercourse.
This would avoid reckless contraceptive: like very late term abortion. The cruelty of exiting a fetus out of the host at a point when the fetus can live outside the body is beyond cruelty.
There’s been over 63million abortions. Not all were grape or inc-es-t. Plan your life before having intercourse women. There has to be well written material to add the exceptions like grape, in-ce-st or the life of the woman. Being afraid is entirely different thing and should not disband the overturn of Roe v Wade.
Unfortunately bc some women are proud when told what to do with unborn babies trapped in their body, the government has to bend to these reckless individuals who use abortion as a contraceptive and make this terrible option an option. To these individuals know there are ppl who are advocating for the life you hold within you. There are options other than this method of reckless contraceptive.
The best one is no sex til marriage, next best followed by plan for the right person to engage in these unions who is willing to do right by you and your child if a pregnancy is a result of your unions.
Protection protection protection even before you engage. Think of intercourse like you are signing up to have a child… bc that’s exactly what happens when these unions happen. The body goes into baby making mode.
If you find yourself with an unplanned pregnancy, accept what you and whoever have done, deal with it today; don’t wait - immediately seek help if this baby news is a crisis for you. I hope you would keep it, if not give him/her up for adoption (they will thank you), but do not be that person cruel to wait when that baby is fully formed and can live outside the host to get that contraceptive procedure all bc you are a stubborn host that says her body is hers.
It’s not the end of the world to be pregnant with a baby. Many of us have gone through unplanned pregnancies. My son is the best thing that could have ever happened to me and this world, by the way. He’s perfect.
God help us bc we allow this procedure. It’s no wonder why America is failing as a country, like a curse with radical Joe/Kamala policies and a divided America.
I get why Jesus said ‘render to Ceaser what’s Ceasers and render to God what’s Gods’. Presidents represent a stubborn ppl in a government and have to render to it what it demands with as much percentage that they could to what God meant for good: live babies and this procedure is clearly not that.
This doesn’t mean that God will not judge those that do not repent of this procedure, that He will not judge the land where this procedure takes place.
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Interesting how you said nothing about men having a vasectomy...
@@sp45ihbecause they always gotta blame us
Men aren't the ones who are putting their loves at risk. Protect your womb.@sp45ih
@@sp45ih She is talking about decisions made BEFORE intercourse. Not medical procedures that are life long. Sex is a choice.
Shame on the doctors of Georgia for not helping these women😢
Doctors risk years ! of prison. or being financially ruined. At the minimum problems with their employers. Or losing theie job. The employers fear to lose public and private funding (for hospitals) and that lunatics will assault them or their premises. The doctors KNOW what the best practices are. And the law makers made it a HIGH risk for them to do the right thing and to practice proper healthcare. - And the voters were too smug or too complacent to prevent that from happening.
It is a feature of Republicans ("Conservatives") that they have no empathy beyond their circles and cannot think in abstractions (how does this affect others, even if it likely never will impact ME). These women and men do not think they would need an abortion. And if so - they plan to secretly get one (flying out of state, they can afford to take a week off and to pay for good care). Screw the others that can't afford it, I got mine.
But the more states enact these draconian laws the longer they would have to drive. A miscarriage does not rhyme well with hours of driving and they might not be accepted as passengers of a flight.
Of course affluent Republican women can arrange for safe and conveniently scheduled abortions in blue states. The mother daughter trips for Hawaii for instance. No protesters in front of the buildings so they can pull it off discreetly and return home from the vacation.
JD Vance and Donald Trump will decide what's right for women in the US. Think about it!
They are saving the babies lives. The women can always give up the babies up for adoption they don’t need to kill them!
@@moriahpalmas5264 it is not your decision!!!!
@@yellowblaaer when it comes to children lives everyone should be concerned! Stop playing the little god!
@@moriahpalmas5264 it still no your decision!!! You cannot control other peoples' bodies, do you understand that? Women die because of the abortion ban.
I’m wondering why these women & MEN don’t make better decisions for themselves and their families ….both women were middle age women, not teenage girls…..even if you slip up and don’t use protection take a Plan B immediately, if you know your life is fragile and you can’t carry a child why not use preventive measures to ensure your health is not compromised
Vote for Kamala or this will happen in every state.
White women have the same issues! My mother died in 1960 because doctors were afraid! I grew up not knowing why! I was 22 when the family secret verbalized! It was more devastating! Women need to be protected from the terror that the government might arrested them! USA is not a communist country but the enemy in this government is creating chaos and women are scared of being held hostage! The medical profession need to protect and standby their oath as professionals! Doctors are to do no harm to their patient! Women need to be protected! Love your neighbor like yourself.
God alone will judge what happened to these families and all his creation. God says he knows us even in our mother’s womb. Please don’t use them as propaganda.
Don’t forget the deaths of millions of unborn with unique DNA
Your digestive tract has a biome consisting of tiny entities separate from you with unique DNA too. Parasites have unique DNA. Having a "unique DNA" isn't the talking point you think it is.
IT IS A SIN
When there female family members have complications will the energy be different 😒
Why is it ok to murder a baby? That's tragic...
it’s not a baby
@@mady8060 what is it then, a walrus?
@@Kriner917 no babe, it’s a fetus
@@Kriner917I know. They say it's not a baby. So what is a monkey.?
@mady8060 no kidding... another name for offspring another name for baby...
Iam outraged & so sorry for this family. My daughter was caught up in this nightmare of her baby dying in utero. She was fortunate that her doctor was supportive but warned her the pharmacy may not fill the scrip for the pill. The nightmare of her knowing her baby was already gone and doing this at home was horrendous. Praise God she survived physically but mentally no.
Where are they getting this medication for abortion that they are taking and then dying?
Why are you more concerned with how the medication was obtained, rather than their inability to access further medical care and treatment? Will it take the death of someone you love, regardless of the circumstances-due to being refused care, for you to comprehend or empathize with those affected by this decision?
This medication is also needed in early miscarriage when the fetus is not evacuated. My sister needed it 2 years ago. Right now, she wouldn't be able to get a D&C, either. This is why non-professional have no business regulating healthcare. Even when abortion was illegal in the US women received D&C as a routine care for miscarriage, like my mom did when she miscarried at 18 weeks. Those laws are dangerous and absurd.
I'm hoping the families sue my once great state of Georgia for whatever legal term is appropriate ; negligent homicide or wrongful death. based on the loss of life liberty & the pursuit of happiness, the 14th amendment, and the spirit of the constitution pertaining to equal creation & equal citizenship as our heartbeat law breaks all of the above. Kemp's heartbeat bill isn't even medically correct in it's wording about the so called "heartbeat" . sue & get this ridiculous law out of my state!
abortion is a sin
If you believe that, don’t get one.
@RamonBawas Some people don't share your religious beliefs. I don't know why that's so hard for some of you to understand. Stop trying to force everyone to adhere to your religious views.
No where in the Bible does it say that abortion is a sin
it is important to recognize that although the Bible was written at a time when abortion was practiced, it never directly addresses the issue. However, in exodus 21 it explains that a woman’s life is worth more her a fetus.
So is adultery, but that did not stop Trump, several times over.
@@Doc5thMechpeople pick and choose which “sins” they take seriously
This tragic death of 3 people (mom and unborn twins) is not due to "an abortion ban." She suffered the complication of an unsuccessful abortion pills.
Were cases like these *where women who went to hospital and were unable to obtain basic obstetric care* happening BEFORE the ban? If not then guess what.
Exactly!
Wait so she didn’t go to the doctor and she died and that’s Trump’s fault?
LIAR!!!
Yes. There was no reason to fear going until Trump appointed extremist justices and judges. So he is at fault.
@ArtemisSilverBowD&Cs would've been allowed for a case like hers
What did the autopsy say as far as what was in her system? When she came back to Georgia what law would have been broke? At that point it wasn’t a abortion but a d and C
Killer Kamala calling anything immoral is hypocritical to the max.
Be careful and responsible when engaging in sex…..men control your fire hydrogens…..no is ok
So what exactly was the issue that led to her death? Because simply being pregnant wasn’t it.
Did you listen to what the video said? The woman had lupus and other complications and the doctor said a pregnancy would kill her.
It was the inability to have the dead fetal tissue removed, which caused her to go into sepsis, and subsequently her organs to shut down.
The problem in the REAL WORLD with such laws (even when there are provisions for the life and health of the pregnant woman): It is not like a) the woman is 100 % safe or b) she is going to die for sure. And the doctors and the hospital admin SEE a RISK or they would not wait with a simple, safe and easy procedure that is STANDARD care in first world countries. The woman was not misdiagnosed. Doctors knew the best practices for such a scenario, and it was an easy procedure (d & c is not even classified as surgery).
They just figured out they had a good reason to delay it. And likely they were not cavalier about it and would have prefered to be able to do it right away.
Their gamble is: We walk a fine line, we wait until it is overwhelmingly obvious that the woman is in grave danger.
Then neither a prosecutor, nor the religious nuts, nor our own bosses or the insurance company that covers liability, nor the people that decide over (extra) private or state funding for our hospital ! will have ANY doubt we could have acted otherwise.
We might keep our job, not become a a target of (violent) rightwingers, and not be sued into oblivion or prosecuted by the law. We might keep our liability insurance.
The problem of the "strategic delay" until it is "bad enough beyond any doubt": even IF there is NO lasting harm, the woman might bleed profusely and suffer pain, likely recovery takes longer. And sometimes the GAMBLE goes horribly wrong. Especially if there is a septic infection, that can escalate quickly and unexpectedly.
There are plenty of abortions OR miscarriages that do not need after care. But IF there is a remote chance there could be problems, doctors will do a D & C in any first world country (w/o stupid laws). It is an easy and fast procedure, very safe. Can ward off a lot of serious problem. W/o any laws that hinder them, doctors err on the side of medical safety. Under these laws they err on the side of personal / hospital safety. Maybe the doctors could have done the D & C immediately and would not have gotten into any trouble (not even with management).
Maybe.
Problem: they were not sure and we know these exact same scenarios (doctors do not YET dare to act, they wait until it gets very obviously very bad) also from other nations with anti abortion laws. Think Ireland and Poland. All nations with anti abortion laws have the provision that the rights of the mother prevail over that of a fetus (or even an infant). In reality if the mood is so rabidly anti-abortion already (quite unusual in highly developed nations) the doctors assume that there will be zealotry. It is not safe for them to use best practices.
THIS DOESN'T FEEL like the USA.