So I have a Triumph Speed 400, purchased it new a few months back. It currently has 2800 miles. Just the other day I had an issue trying to get it started, then once started and on my way, the check engine light pops on. Emailed the dealer and they told me that this is a common issue and Triumph knows about it. Something about the chip in the ignition key not communicating with the immobilizer unit?? Dealer advised not to be concerned, keep on enjoying the bike the way it is till Triumph creates a firmware update. So now it takes a few times (turn key on/off) to get my NEW bike started. I’ve had two new Royal Enfield’s (350 & 411), a BMW C400GT scooter and never had an issue. Maybe it’s time to turn Japanese. I really like the Yamaha XSR900 ❤! Thanks guys, enjoy your reviews & rides!!
@@josevi5835 yes, i agree. The xsr900 is a beauty! I’m just about ready to list my triumph speed 400, the check engine light went off by its self and now it’s starting up in one try as usual.
Miles????? Bro it's km and not miles.... You realize how many km it's gonna show in your speedometer if it's miles right🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 It roughly translates to 4500 km🤣🤣🤣
Triumph speed dropped 20k($200) price here in India just before guerrilla 450 launch 😂... It's not like they are losing money, the triumph 400 engine is basically a modified ktm 390,bajaj dominar 400 engine 😅... Triumph falsely marketed it as their own from ground up but production line for triumph 400,ktm 390 and dominar 400 is same 😂 triumph is premium brand and for it to cost lower than ktm 390 is very sus... That's the reason it's not outselling RE in India... I always say this, you pay for what you get... Just because it looks better doesn't mean it's better... Japanese brands are best example for this..
I have a RE GT535 Continental and I'm 66. It's my first Cafe Racer style bike, because I'd always avoided them in my 40 plus years of motorcycling. I'd heeded the stories of aching wrists and cricked backs over my long riding history. I can honestly report that it's one of the most comfortable bikes I've owned, especially on an extended run. I certainly subscribe to the theory that RE riders are more flexible than the average. They're also more adventurous, better looking and live longer.
62 year old Enfield rider. Spent many years doing Karate and Kung fu and have been doing yoga for the last 6 years. So yes, I can touch my toes. I believe all other Enfield riders are the same, so we can all ride cafe racers with ease.😊 Seriously, I look forward to seeing the guerilla.
I´m personally very interested in the 450cc Guerrilla for my daily use ... it would be perfect for while commuting vs. the Himalaya, being probably ligher, w/ a 17" front wheel, thus much more agile and a lower seat ... plenty of torque and nice design ... I just hope they keep the Google maps on the screen for urban use.
The side stand on the Himalyan 450 is kept small because the rear suspension can be easily lowered from 825cm to 805cm by changing the lever mechanism position with a fastening screw. With the 805cm setting, the side stand should then fit better and would not have to be shortened.
5:02 In india Honda makes 2 350 cc roadster which have their Cafe racer official variants that's the reason RE not only can't afford to discontinue Continental GT but also need to release one more cafe racer in 350-450 cc range. Even a small niche market in india can be big enough, considering the population and demand.
I love the continental gt650 but i really hope Royal Enfield works on the tail lights and the indicators and if they bringing the cans merged together as a single can then the design would truly work.
One of the most standout features on a bike, in my opinion, is the exhaust! I LOVE the old-style exhausts that look impressive and shiny! I really cannot see ANYTHING attractlve about the modern-style exhausts...such as the one indicated on the picture of the Guerrilla in this article!
To those that are familiar with RE motorcycles. How is the dependably of these bikes, these days? Is there much repair involved if you do the recommended maintenence? Im from USA where mostly Japanese bikes and HD are popular. I really like the RE and Triumph styles the best.
I’ve been waiting for that bike since the rumour was around (maybe 2-3 years?) Couldn’t wait and now I’m a proud owner of a Continental GT 650 Mr. Clean
They'll just need to modify it like the did with others the Intercepter became the INT and the Hunter became the HNTR, i would guess if they planned on bringing that back out, they would just find a way to modify the name and try to keep it as similar as possible.
Kind of, it may be more of a roadster like a bigger Hunter 350. They are also working on a Scram 440 which has a larger bore version of the air/oil cooled 411 engine, and will be a cheaper option to the water cooled designs. You can put a big bore kit on the 411 engines anyway if you want.
I think the Benelli Leoncino 500 is superior to the Triumph Speed 400 Motobob, you may have forgotten that one in this category of modern retro. The RE Gorilla will be interesting to see.
on weight of the 452- there is an Indian fella who got it down to about 169kg if i remember right, lots of that was very easy to do and some was gained through extras/upgrades
One of the biggest reasons I bought the interceptor 650 was the almost complete lack digital bells and whistles, (it's fuel injection and ABS, that's it). I think what would be extremely interesting, (I'm not saying they would sell a single bike if they did it, just that it would be interesting), is if they did a completely analog bike. Like carbs, no ABS, no computer at all. I'm not sure they could even do it with emissions laws, but it would be an interesting bike. Personally I'm looking forward to the Classic 650 if they make one or just make a trim option for the Shotgun to basically make it a classic. If not though j will probably just buy a shotgun and paint and mod it. I live in the U.S. and really I feel like it could become what the sportster was once people here realize it's an actual bike and that you can add a bore kit and cam shaft and double the torque on the thing. Only time will tell though.
Complete analogue may not be possible but I did read about Classic 650 on the cards.... It will happen in my opinion as RE will fully milk the 650 platform...and why not... it's a good VFM platform... Lots of folks in India are buying RE650 as their project bikes and modify them to their heart's content 😅
@@jeevanchaukar I think it would be awesome if they put a kickstart on the classic. Truthfully I'm not even sure if you can do that on a fuel injection engine, but I think it would be a nice touch. I'm slowly modding my interceptor into a retro sport tourer, (something that never existed but I just think is funny and fun, like I'm making it into what I would imagine a 'dad' bike would have been in the sixties).
I am going to buy RE Himalayan because if extra fuel capacity for extra kilometers travelled but today i saw new Bajaj Freedom 125 CNG and RE Guerrilla 450
I find it difficult to get excited about RE. there's only 3 motors to choose from just re packaged differently. It would be good to see them make a motor with 70 plus hp too. I won't hold my breath.
I'm surprised how the western automotive media is too scared to criticize a brand from the east, because of the whole apologetic stance west tends to take towards the east. But indian people can be critical and ALL have called out the unbearable lack of refinement and all the mechanical clatter in the new Sherpa 450 motor. It's quite apparent as soon as you ride it, and yet the western media is too polite or scared to say it.
In India, we do criticize RE and it will be unfair even to expect Kawasaki or Honda type refinement in an RE😅 But, RE is good at providing great VFM and they have built a brotherhood (kind of Harley..but way bigger cult in size)... I was personally RE hater..but the 650 products removed me from haters group 😂
7:49 Whoever makes such a lame, stupid excuse, has ZERO attention span! Why can't you just ignore the gauge cluster if it bugs you so much? If features are provided, YOU USE THEM! Otherwise, turn them off, ignore or just don't buy the damn machine altogether.
just by looking at spyshots( maybe intentional by RE) Triumph has reduced the price of both speed 400 and scrambler 400 by 10K rupees, competition goes haywire with RE launches
Why don't enfield do a 750 but compatible for A2 , At the moment I've got a 2019 650 interceptor. Also what about a more custom version ....not indian idea of custom (sorry to the Indian viewers,no disrespect intended)but a more laid back bike ....a bit like the triumph bobber 🤔, and please change those bloody stupid down /header pipes ...they are as ugly as my ex-girlfriend 😂. Peace out ✌️
"Log-off" would be better, otherwise, it's for us olde Luddites & we were admonished to always park any manual in gear, ya roll away, fall down fool....
Well I think that's not true..as both Triumph and Royal Enfield follow retro designs Royal Enfield has its own character to its engine. I'm from India and I own a Royal Enfield the quality and the finishes aren't as good as Triumph and the response by the engine isn't as quick as triumph, Royal enfield has its own sets of designs and character which I think makes really different from triumph. Both the brands has beauties on their collection and Royal enfield needs to step up on the finishing levels of their bikes.
Just you. I had a T120 and now i have a Scram411 and i'm a huge fan of both brands. Nobody has the patent on retro style. I just cant wait unil i never have to hear "retro styling" ever again. How long do we have to have this ideation of stuff that looks like old stuff.
These are not really ROYAL ENFIELD bikes, they are simply a jiggly made bike fitted with a nameplate that was once fitted to a great British bike. Like so many UK bike manufacturers Royal Enfield (GB) went down the pan with the likes of BSA, AJS, Matchless, Norton and a host of others. The old R.E. Meteor production line was shipped out to India and ever since anything produced with a R.E. badge has been a "joke bike". People (silly souls) bought into the nostalgia of a very cheap historic brands like R.E. and A.J.S., these penny pinchers would have better spent their money on a Trabant...............Point of interest I owned a 1961 Royal Enfield Crusader bought in 1963 for £145.......................and then having passed my "test" had a Norton Dominator 99 (600cc) that was souped up with high lift cams, twin carbs, Dunstall mega's and a bucket seat and flew like s*it off a shovel
So I have a Triumph Speed 400, purchased it new a few months back. It currently has 2800 miles. Just the other day I had an issue trying to get it started, then once started and on my way, the check engine light pops on. Emailed the dealer and they told me that this is a common issue and Triumph knows about it. Something about the chip in the ignition key not communicating with the immobilizer unit?? Dealer advised not to be concerned, keep on enjoying the bike the way it is till Triumph creates a firmware update. So now it takes a few times (turn key on/off) to get my NEW bike started. I’ve had two new Royal Enfield’s (350 & 411), a BMW C400GT scooter and never had an issue. Maybe it’s time to turn Japanese. I really like the Yamaha XSR900 ❤! Thanks guys, enjoy your reviews & rides!!
XSR900 2021 owner here. Incredible bike and no issues in three years. However very different than your current Triumph 400.
@@josevi5835 yes, i agree. The xsr900 is a beauty! I’m just about ready to list my triumph speed 400, the check engine light went off by its self and now it’s starting up in one try as usual.
This proves that Royal Enfield sells sub-par products in India! So many people here complain about issues on Royal Enfield bikes.
Miles????? Bro it's km and not miles.... You realize how many km it's gonna show in your speedometer if it's miles right🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It roughly translates to 4500 km🤣🤣🤣
Triumph speed dropped 20k($200) price here in India just before guerrilla 450 launch 😂...
It's not like they are losing money, the triumph 400 engine is basically a modified ktm 390,bajaj dominar 400 engine 😅...
Triumph falsely marketed it as their own from ground up but production line for triumph 400,ktm 390 and dominar 400 is same 😂
triumph is premium brand and for it to cost lower than ktm 390 is very sus... That's the reason it's not outselling RE in India...
I always say this, you pay for what you get... Just because it looks better doesn't mean it's better... Japanese brands are best example for this..
I have a RE GT535 Continental and I'm 66. It's my first Cafe Racer style bike, because I'd always avoided them in my 40 plus years of motorcycling. I'd heeded the stories of aching wrists and cricked backs over my long riding history. I can honestly report that it's one of the most comfortable bikes I've owned, especially on an extended run. I certainly subscribe to the theory that RE riders are more flexible than the average. They're also more adventurous, better looking and live longer.
62 year old Enfield rider. Spent many years doing Karate and Kung fu and have been doing yoga for the last 6 years. So yes, I can touch my toes. I believe all other Enfield riders are the same, so we can all ride cafe racers with ease.😊
Seriously, I look forward to seeing the guerilla.
Haha speak for yourself, I'm 41 and can't touch my toes
One thing Royal Enfield do well is make nice looking bikes!
Guerilla and Trail.....I really like scrambler style for my needs.
RE has quite a presence in South America with assembly in Columbia, Argentina and Brazil. Maybe a Gaucho and Pirahna on the way too.
Brics is the future
Brics🔥🔥🤣
Definitely an analog display I really want to be away from tech and mobile noise
Guerilla a 450 Hunter style bike for me with no technology 😁👍
I´m personally very interested in the 450cc Guerrilla for my daily use ... it would be perfect for while commuting vs. the Himalaya, being probably ligher, w/ a 17" front wheel, thus much more agile and a lower seat ... plenty of torque and nice design ... I just hope they keep the Google maps on the screen for urban use.
The side stand on the Himalyan 450 is kept small because the rear suspension can be easily lowered from 825cm to 805cm by changing the lever mechanism position with a fastening screw. With the 805cm setting, the side stand should then fit better and would not have to be shortened.
RE Trip in weed green. That’s gonna be my bike. 🤙🏻
5:02 In india Honda makes 2 350 cc roadster which have their Cafe racer official variants that's the reason RE not only can't afford to discontinue Continental GT but also need to release one more cafe racer in 350-450 cc range. Even a small niche market in india can be big enough, considering the population and demand.
Will you recommend this for long rides on the highway. Can this model be used as a cruiser.
Thanks for the info and educated guesses. In the US, I want a Triumph 400s next. Currently ride a 2022 RE Himalayan.
I love the continental gt650 but i really hope Royal Enfield works on the tail lights and the indicators and if they bringing the cans merged together as a single can then the design would truly work.
A Royal Enfield 125cc would be an absolute winner. That could be the Cafe Racer option.
Hey, isn't Tim from Urban Rider? It's great to see Tom. Love the product review videos
RE had launched trial bikes based on the Classic 350 and 500 with the UCE engine.
One of the most standout features on a bike, in my opinion, is the exhaust! I LOVE the old-style exhausts that look impressive and shiny! I really cannot see ANYTHING attractlve about the modern-style exhausts...such as the one indicated on the picture of the Guerrilla in this article!
To those that are familiar with RE motorcycles. How is the dependably of these bikes, these days? Is there much repair involved if you do the recommended maintenence? Im from USA where mostly Japanese bikes and HD are popular. I really like the RE and Triumph styles the best.
INT650 is my first bike and I've done all the services myself and never had an issue with ANYTHING on the bike.
for sure the 450 Guerrilla be my choice, I now the Hunter 350 fun small bore bike
Yes, absolutely will buy that log out if the bike itself is of style I like.
I’ve been waiting for that bike since the rumour was around (maybe 2-3 years?)
Couldn’t wait and now I’m a proud owner of a Continental GT 650 Mr. Clean
Would prefer the non TFT analog speedometer, Florida sunlight is hard on screens.
Thunderbird name cannot be used outside India as it is a Triumph trademarked model name and RE didn't export it in its old 350 form.
and Ford would make themselves a problem in the US and Canada.
They'll just need to modify it like the did with others the Intercepter became the INT and the Hunter became the HNTR, i would guess if they planned on bringing that back out, they would just find a way to modify the name and try to keep it as similar as possible.
Is it the new Scram to replace the old 410 Version ??
Kind of, it may be more of a roadster like a bigger Hunter 350. They are also working on a Scram 440 which has a larger bore version of the air/oil cooled 411 engine, and will be a cheaper option to the water cooled designs. You can put a big bore kit on the 411 engines anyway if you want.
Is the trip a scooter? Would absolutely love to see RE’s answer to Vespa competition. 300cc geared retro scooter? I’m in.
Guys, the one in the thumbnail is HNTR 350 with a ton of mods
Being 6ft and quite heavy tha Triumph is just to small for me, REs tend to be more substantial so looking forward to the Guerrilla.
I realy enjoyed watching this! Thanx guys! (I work as an Online Marketeer - Automotive). ROMY - Netherlands.
My bike is already a LOGOUT version - you cannot really get much more logout than an exc500
I think the Benelli Leoncino 500 is superior to the Triumph Speed 400 Motobob, you may have forgotten that one in this category of modern retro. The RE Gorilla will be interesting to see.
wish Re would make a 650 model for short people I'm 5'4 i wanted a 650 Int last year so bad but it was to high, walk out with the Hunter
By meteor 650
What about the kx 838 V twin…… concept just disappeared.
on weight of the 452- there is an Indian fella who got it down to about 169kg if i remember right, lots of that was very easy to do and some was gained through extras/upgrades
169 dry would only be a reduction of 12 kg. He shaved off something like 18 kg, which means a dry weight of about 163 kg..🧐
Yes, his name is Abhinav bhatt. Do check his weight reduction video out, its in english.
Some of us never really logged in. 😕
One of the biggest reasons I bought the interceptor 650 was the almost complete lack digital bells and whistles, (it's fuel injection and ABS, that's it). I think what would be extremely interesting, (I'm not saying they would sell a single bike if they did it, just that it would be interesting), is if they did a completely analog bike. Like carbs, no ABS, no computer at all. I'm not sure they could even do it with emissions laws, but it would be an interesting bike. Personally I'm looking forward to the Classic 650 if they make one or just make a trim option for the Shotgun to basically make it a classic. If not though j will probably just buy a shotgun and paint and mod it. I live in the U.S. and really I feel like it could become what the sportster was once people here realize it's an actual bike and that you can add a bore kit and cam shaft and double the torque on the thing. Only time will tell though.
Complete analogue may not be possible but I did read about Classic 650 on the cards....
It will happen in my opinion as RE will fully milk the 650 platform...and why not... it's a good VFM platform...
Lots of folks in India are buying RE650 as their project bikes and modify them to their heart's content 😅
@@jeevanchaukar I think it would be awesome if they put a kickstart on the classic. Truthfully I'm not even sure if you can do that on a fuel injection engine, but I think it would be a nice touch. I'm slowly modding my interceptor into a retro sport tourer, (something that never existed but I just think is funny and fun, like I'm making it into what I would imagine a 'dad' bike would have been in the sixties).
I am going to buy RE Himalayan because if extra fuel capacity for extra kilometers travelled but today i saw new
Bajaj Freedom 125 CNG and RE Guerrilla 450
I find it difficult to get excited about RE. there's only 3 motors to choose from just re packaged differently. It would be good to see them make a motor with 70 plus hp too. I won't hold my breath.
U have to wait 2 year for RE kx800
Hey Dude at 67 years old I can still stand and touch my toes. And I don’t ride on Dun-laps.
I'm surprised how the western automotive media is too scared to criticize a brand from the east, because of the whole apologetic stance west tends to take towards the east. But indian people can be critical and ALL have called out the unbearable lack of refinement and all the mechanical clatter in the new Sherpa 450 motor. It's quite apparent as soon as you ride it, and yet the western media is too polite or scared to say it.
In India, we do criticize RE and it will be unfair even to expect Kawasaki or Honda type refinement in an RE😅
But, RE is good at providing great VFM and they have built a brotherhood (kind of Harley..but way bigger cult in size)...
I was personally RE hater..but the 650 products removed me from haters group 😂
450 single RE Classic ... Please !.
Bit worried that I might Logout permanently
Isn’t there a Triumph Thunderbird?
I think the Guerrila will be a Scram 450.
Srcam version is planned for 2025, this will be Roadster
Thunderbird would need a separate name for north America as Ford owns the thunderbird name
“Log out” I use that as a term for going for a shit “I’m going for a log out” 😂
guerilla will touch a top speed of 167 kmph and have a weight of 174 kg so yeah it will be a fun
continental gt is very famouse in india......
7:49 Whoever makes such a lame, stupid excuse, has ZERO attention span! Why can't you just ignore the gauge cluster if it bugs you so much? If features are provided, YOU USE THEM! Otherwise, turn them off, ignore or just don't buy the damn machine altogether.
just by looking at spyshots( maybe intentional by RE) Triumph has reduced the price of both speed 400 and scrambler 400 by 10K rupees, competition goes haywire with RE launches
July 14 2024
Why don't enfield do a 750 but compatible for A2 , At the moment I've got a 2019 650 interceptor.
Also what about a more custom version ....not indian idea of custom (sorry to the Indian viewers,no disrespect intended)but a more laid back bike ....a bit like the triumph bobber 🤔, and please change those bloody stupid down /header pipes ...they are as ugly as my ex-girlfriend 😂.
Peace out ✌️
"Log-off" would be better, otherwise, it's for us olde Luddites & we were admonished to always park any manual in gear, ya roll away, fall down fool....
Laybys eh? You sound like one of those "dogging" types......whatever they get up to. 450 Hunter would be nice.
Royal Enfield are shit a lot of problems with the electronics
The new Himalayan seems to be doing well though
What electronic problem.. please care to elaborate..?
Some initial batches only have that issues
Bob, please get better side kicks. These guys you bring on are so stupid it's painful to watch.
Meeooow 🐱
@@cthulhurising4860 Yes, cats hate it, too
Naaaaa i don't understand why RE is making these ugly looking bikes.... First Hunter and now this....... What happened to you
200,000 Hunter Owners in just one year would disagree with you.
why are foreigners talking about indian brands ...they got better bikes than us
It's a British brand
@@navjo1454 this brand buy India in 150 years old ago
@@navjo1454 it's indian bro
Am I the only one that thinks Enfield is just mostly building cheap knockoff triumphs?
Well I think that's not true..as both Triumph and Royal Enfield follow retro designs Royal Enfield has its own character to its engine. I'm from India and I own a Royal Enfield the quality and the finishes aren't as good as Triumph and the response by the engine isn't as quick as triumph, Royal enfield has its own sets of designs and character which I think makes really different from triumph. Both the brands has beauties on their collection and Royal enfield needs to step up on the finishing levels of their bikes.
You're the only one
Just you. I had a T120 and now i have a Scram411 and i'm a huge fan of both brands. Nobody has the patent on retro style. I just cant wait unil i never have to hear "retro styling" ever again. How long do we have to have this ideation of stuff that looks like old stuff.
How can RE be a Triumph knockoff when it's been around longer than Triumph & that too in continuous production.
Yep, just you, but that's why there's more than 1 OEM in the world....
I prefer bear 650 or Guerrila 450
These are not really ROYAL ENFIELD bikes, they are simply a jiggly made bike fitted with a nameplate that was once fitted to a great British bike. Like so many UK bike manufacturers Royal Enfield (GB) went down the pan with the likes of BSA, AJS, Matchless, Norton and a host of others. The old R.E. Meteor production line was shipped out to India and ever since anything produced with a R.E. badge has been a "joke bike". People (silly souls) bought into the nostalgia of a very cheap historic brands like R.E. and A.J.S., these penny pinchers would have better spent their money on a Trabant...............Point of interest I owned a 1961 Royal Enfield Crusader bought in 1963 for £145.......................and then having passed my "test" had a Norton Dominator 99 (600cc) that was souped up with high lift cams, twin carbs, Dunstall mega's and a bucket seat and flew like s*it off a shovel