3 6 Alloytech "CHECK OIL WARNING" on dash.!

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  • Let's see what we can do for this guy.
    Here is a link to my other vid...How far can you go between oil changes.
    • How far can you go bet...
    The oil is the one thing in common and I'm sure many others have seen this sort of thing too.

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  • @beaugunn2632
    @beaugunn2632 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You sir, are one great mechanic : one who takes pride in his work. I am a home mechanic, but I know enough to recognise a smart cookie when I am listening to one.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for the kind words Tony.

    • @beaugunn2632
      @beaugunn2632 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ziggassedup ..... You're welcome. I thought I was the only one who meticulously trims off excess silicone gasket.

  • @Hapkido82AUS
    @Hapkido82AUS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    5,000km services on mine, and runs great 😉
    Anyone who owns one should do the same

  • @necriarch666
    @necriarch666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Zig. Thank you for your informative video. I thought you were having a joke with everyone when you showed the broken dipstick as I found out how it happened. If you refit the sump with the dipstick still in it can bind on the baffle plate and break. Of cause I didn't realize this had happened until I started to refill the oil then went to check the level and found I could not remove the Dipstick :(. So had to start all over again... and replace the dipstick. So tip for anyone else performing this. REMOVE THE DIPSTICK BEFORE YOU REFIT THE SUMP!!!.

    • @thehassanhashemi
      @thehassanhashemi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What has draining and replacing the oil has to do with deep stick breaking like that!!!!! Baffle plate?

    • @jasonsanders3397
      @jasonsanders3397 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thehassanhashemi If you take the sump off, and leave the dip stick in the tube, when you go to refit the sump, the dipstick does indeed get caught on these so called baffles in the sump and breaks off the tip. These baffles are small rectangular low walled chambers in the sump, and their purpose is to control oil surge when traveling very quickly around a corner on the road. And oil surge is literally just the oil sloshing up on on side under g forces of hard cornering and potentially leaving the oil pickup uncovered by oil and sucking air. Which is terrible for bearings etc. Australia has a lot of roundabouts that seem to get taken at very high speed. I've seen a few times a car fly past me and whiz around a roundabout at a huge velocity and then the tell tale big puff of oil smoke from the exhaust as the oil gets shoved about by induced gravity and leaves the pickup exposed for a bit and then dumps all over the pickup as the car powers through the turn. It's on older cars I've seen this happen and it was obviously causing problems. So to help alleviate this, car makers took a leaf out of racing car practice and started designing baffles into the sumps of normal everyday cars. To control oil surge and the highly likely engine damage that results. And it's not just Alloytecs that you can break the dipstick off in. A mate and I did the same thing when we forgot to remove the dipstick in a bloody Mazda CX-7 when replacing the sump. Somehow Zig seems lucky enough not to have wrestled with a 2.3 Petrol Turbo CX-7, but we replaced a blown turbo on one (extremely common problem) and for backyard mechanics like us that was a totally horrible bastard of a job.But yes, baffles are a real thing, and it's not from draining and replacing the oil, but from removing and putting back on the sump.

  • @wyattoneable
    @wyattoneable 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My goodness. Way too many people don't pay attention to the oil. And it's so important. I hope it lasts awhile for the folks.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers Wyatt...I've seen this in many 3.6 Alloytec engines that have regular dealer service too so I'd say the particular oil is the culprit.

    • @anthonybotonis5841
      @anthonybotonis5841 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oil flush every service on these engines.

  • @area19streetroadgarage48
    @area19streetroadgarage48 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I'm from Brazil and I have a Commodore. I did this procedure that you explane and to my surprise I found small joints inside ... someone opened the front cover and did not clean properly .... today the engine works in good condition !!! tks

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's great...Cheers.

  • @DARANGULAFILM
    @DARANGULAFILM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I experienced a similar issue with a Toyota Echo. Like the Alloytech, the engine was a great little performer but the manufacturer basically designed the engine to stew in its own juice. The recommended oilchange intervals are rather too long. There were two things going on with the oil pressure, obstruction of the pickup screen and a stuck pressure relief valve piston.
    The oil pressure light came on after I inadvertantly selected a low gear and the engine ran fast. I drive fairly conservatively so the engine had not spun that fast in a good while. My guess is that against the resistance of a clogged filter, the pressure relief valve moved into a space it had not occupied and got stuck. I had assumed the engine overspeed had damaged a bearing by the knock which had developed..Thinking that it was done for, I overfilled the engine with oil to get splashfeed to the bearings and up to the camshaft via the timing chain. As things turned out, the bottom end was good.
    When the Allotech starts cold, there is a buzz of the oil pressure relief setting off as the oil pump reaches pressure then it runs quielty. Noise builds as the engine warm up. I am hopeful it is just a clogged filter but the pickup screen is likely blocked too. When I bought the car, I thought the clean oil was too good to be true and on the first long run after repairing all the other known faults with the vehicle, the "check oil" warning came up. The vehicle was a "rescue" at a very cheap price. Problems and work to be done were expected.
    The owner had taken good care of it but had loaned it to a relative. It broke his heart when it was returned to him as a no-goer. The no-go was due to a simple fault, a corroded joint in the key fob. It seems that the driver got locked out. Two windows were loose in their frames from the old trick of lifting them out to get in. It seems the car thought it was getting stolen so the immobiliser did its job. My first thought on checking the non-op key was "could it really be so simple". I began to open it to replace the coin battery then discovered the resistive groundplane joint. The litany of other fixes to be done remained.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My experiences with Toyotas that get neglected is they clog the pick-up..You'll hear the filter buzzing...Yep they design vehicles to fail...That's how they sell new vehicles...Cheers mate.

  • @cecil6711
    @cecil6711 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great repair Ziggy.
    New marks on the dipstick made me chuckle. lol

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Cecil...People will try anything and the unknowing buy the problem.

  • @RussellBooth1977
    @RussellBooth1977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing that I should mention is a Ford customer had trouble with noisy hydraulic lifters in a brand new Ford XP Falcon in the box 1960's which was caused by the Castrol brand of oil.
    Ford dismantled,hot tubbed & rebuilt the engine under warranty, changed the brand of oil used then they never had any problems with it after that was done !

  • @Diallo268
    @Diallo268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just did a similar fix on a 2010 Chevy 3L V6. There was crud all over the engine and barely over 100k miles. Pulled the pan and cleaned it out. the oil pickup tube didn't appear clogged, but there was a lot of sediment in the pan potentially causing issues. The way it seals with an oring also leads me to believe that could have been a fail point as well. Anyhow, now for the most part it's fixed. no low oil pressure light, but on occasion the ending still sounds louder than it should which concerns me. I may run some seafoam through it at some point to see if that helps.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not a very well designed engine.

  • @TheWreckingYard
    @TheWreckingYard 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the new marks on the dipstick, probably only a few bucks to get another from the salvage yard.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can see the guy cutting the new marks thinking no one will ever know....lol..Cheers Ron.

  • @lequarlum2311
    @lequarlum2311 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    same thing happen to mine.rebuilt the top end with new cams cleaned as much as i could.did the sump and it wasnt too bad.6 oil changes later and its been running really well 178k

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good for you bud..Cheers

  • @txsviking
    @txsviking 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Think I'll go check my oil after that. Thanks Zig. Great video.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good idea..Thank you sir.

  • @Buckswoodshop
    @Buckswoodshop 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice work. I knew a guy that worked on VWs and he had a customer that would trailer his car to the mechanic if it was close to going over the limit on his next oil change.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Matt....I've had a few cars towed in with a flat tire and a perfectly good spare..

  • @Anthony-fq9ct
    @Anthony-fq9ct ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it worth adding a crank case breather filter on an alloytec. An alloytec which has some modifications, gets driven hard sometimes but recieves 5k services?
    Cheers Ziggy

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It surely wouldn't hurt....Cheers Anthony.

  • @robertkeefer1552
    @robertkeefer1552 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bloody Hell. Just take care of the vehicle! Some people don't know about proper maintenance.

  • @Wilt8v92
    @Wilt8v92 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have just changed a motor for a bloke with a VZ Crewman,it was low KS,it's had been serviced by workshop on Castrol magtec on 10k service intervals for the last four years,it stopped no comppression,so i swapped in used good LEO engine from a wrecker,it's Running good,no more Castrol and it's 5K interval now,oil is cheap..

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah mate it's bad stuff.

  • @tonyfabricius863
    @tonyfabricius863 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello,Enjoy yr video,What would a job like the one you've done on this car ? Cheers Tony

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably about $500...Cheers Tony.

  • @RodderFiles
    @RodderFiles 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    couple extra oil changes after a few hunrded miles like 3 times should clear most out no?

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I the crap doesn't block the screen again.

  • @fredwaters3420
    @fredwaters3420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Zig, what do you think about using a catch can for these engines? Was thinking of doing it to my 09 G8. Thanks in advance for your input.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Breathing is certainly an issue so the better breathing the less chance for carboning up the crankcase...Have a good one.

  • @DARANGULAFILM
    @DARANGULAFILM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A little tech question. The modern multigrade oils. I assume they start cold at lowest viscosity and thicken when hot. The old straight grade oils would set an engine raltting if it was worn once the oil heated up. The same thing seems to be happening with this engine which has obstruction to the pump screen. It starts quietly then begins to create noise ( phasers I think losing servo pressure ). My imagining is that when the oil heats and gains viscosity, it then is harder for the pump to draw through the blocked screen and push through a blocked filter. Is that the mechanism of what happens of am I down a rabbit hole on this thought? This one has about 10mm of breadcrumb sludge on the bottom of the sump. If the bearings have not started to peel and the engine still endures, there will be a few repeats of raking sludge out., So I have gone the route of drilling an access hole to make this a regular task at each oil change. It is a pity that the engine developers did not find a way to draw more air through the engine case even if it meant installing an extra injector to add fuel to the charge of air coming from the case.

  • @fredwaters3420
    @fredwaters3420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, thanks! I do believe that the engine needs more oil though. 4.8 liters is not 7.1 quarts, which these take.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Is that what I said.?...Oops..Cheers mate.

  • @GhettoWagon
    @GhettoWagon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was the same engine in a Cadillac catera in the states? No one changes their oil anymore. My engines look new inside, even on the truck or the wagon which had any cheap name brand on sale motor oil for years until I took over, but changed regularly. I think when you mix and match brands sometimes you get that weird oil bake on some of the parts, but it cleans right off. Do you have one of those aluminum block/ head cleaners in the shop? We had it at toyota. When a head looked like that crank case it came out looking new. I think the brand of the machine was CUDA? I would run some diesel truck oil in there, that stuff cleans really well. Nice RTV job!

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chevy use them but I'm not sure of what they were in...

  • @SteveRobReviews
    @SteveRobReviews 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Proper job Zig , does look like nobody been there. Wow it sure slugged up . Cool vid ,,,,,

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Steve...You know I like to leave no evidence.

  • @805ROADKING
    @805ROADKING 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well done Mate!! We've not seen the last of that vehicle!!☺

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks RK...I'll let you know if it returns with the same issue or a rod out the block.

  • @andjusticeforall8813
    @andjusticeforall8813 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Ziggy great channel you have here thanks. A question please, the centre bolt just under the harmonic balancer, can it just be undone until it touches the balancer and clears enough to let the sump drop or does the balancer need to be removed? Cheers from qld👍🏻

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks mate..Yep the balancer stays on...Cheers and good luck with it.

    • @andjusticeforall8813
      @andjusticeforall8813 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ZIGgassedUP Thanks very much for that mate

  • @RustyGlovebox
    @RustyGlovebox 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Auction vehicles are always a game of chance . They're there for some reason.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's true Lloyd...Cheers mate.

    • @jasonsanders3397
      @jasonsanders3397 ปีที่แล้ว

      And an Alloytec equipped Auction vehicle is a loaded gun, almost guaranteed to explode in your face

  • @terpszi5298
    @terpszi5298 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hi just wondering is it bad to drive it like this before cleaning the pickup and sump if it is bad how long can you be driving it for before it is bad for the engine

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ASAP mate...Little oil supply to the bearings isn't good...Damage may have already begun.

    • @terpszi5298
      @terpszi5298 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ziggassedupI cleaned the sump and pickup and it’s still doing check oil but there is still oil pressure and now we just changed the whole oil filter holder and filter and it has stopped will it occur again

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@terpszi5298 Time will tell...It'll probably be OK.

    • @terpszi5298
      @terpszi5298 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ziggasseduphow long do you think till it can occur again and how long do you reckon these engines normally last if taken care of

  • @mohammadarmaan4061
    @mohammadarmaan4061 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi habe the same engine..havw sound in my engine..pls suggest me the best engine oil for this engine..

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you have warning light on dash.?

  • @jeremykinniburgh8254
    @jeremykinniburgh8254 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a series 1 ve omega, I change the oil myself every 5,000 kms or every 5 months, I’ve heard it said a lot that Holden’s oil change interval is too long

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's no such thing as over servicing.

    • @jasonsanders3397
      @jasonsanders3397 ปีที่แล้ว

      15,000 km is factory interval or 12 months. Whichever happens first

  • @aydentheninja877
    @aydentheninja877 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    is that Mick Taylor from wolf creek doing this repair or what

  • @petergoodwin2465
    @petergoodwin2465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good job mate ,should last him a while , i changed the oil in my Alloytec every 5,000 and it still died . Horrible thing to work on .

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They all die sooner or later.

    • @petergoodwin2465
      @petergoodwin2465 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ziggassedup Ha,ha,true mate , Holden should've recalled them all and replaced them with 308s .I'd keep the Vz for life then.

  • @dave6199
    @dave6199 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zig is there any chance you can see the oil pick up when doing an oil change ?

  • @tomswonderfulworld
    @tomswonderfulworld 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good one Mate! She will probably run a long time.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I hope it lasts long enough for him..Cheers Tom.

  • @RussellBooth1977
    @RussellBooth1977 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would just see how the engine goes, maybe do another oil & filter change 1,000 KMs down the track ?

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  ปีที่แล้ว

      That didn't work on this one.

  • @holdenfan4513
    @holdenfan4513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You said 4.8l of oil ive got the same motor in a 2005 vz sv6 and in the hand book it says to put 6.5l so I did have I stuffed up

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope my mistake.

    • @holdenfan4513
      @holdenfan4513 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ziggassedup thank God...cheers man

  • @fitzyholden1036
    @fitzyholden1036 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    G'day Zig. My daily work hack is a VZ ute I've had from new with this donk. Not had any of the problems I keep hearing about with it so far ..... touch wood. Its just ticked over 140,000 k's. Think maybe that changing the oil myself from day one, using Nulon flush every time, and Penrite HPR 5 may be the ticket to making these things last. Took the rockers off last oil change just to have a look for the sludge problems I keep hearing about. It looked tops under there, no probs.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I recon the secret is to not use Magnatec....Cheers Fitzy.

    • @OhSoddit
      @OhSoddit ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ziggassedupOuch, I just bought a few bottles of Magnatec to do my own oil change!! (10w 40).
      I've previously been using Ultraclean 10w 30 - seemed to run well. I have no doubt I WILL experience "issues" in the future - Holden's screwed me over on a timing cover leak, didn't fix it under warranty and first service outside warranty told me it was a $1,500 fix. Didn't get it done. Didn't check my oil after a shop service either - not sure if it wasn't filled up properly or some seriously shitty oil - within 2 months I heard "weird grinding noises" driving up the ramps in a car park. Thought it was suspension, but it wasn't - by the time the oil warning light actually came on, I put a full 5 ltr bottle oil in and it STILL WASN'T FULL on the dipstick!! Ouch. Undoubtedly this HAS caused engine damage, will have stretched the timing chains, etc..... but at least (for the moment) it's still going. Life might be different if I hadn't lost my career over this covid nonsense, if I had an income I might be able to afford to pay for something :(

    • @SLB4523
      @SLB4523 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love that flush! I run for about 150km with it in before the change. Difference in colour between the old oil pre-flush and post-flush is enough to tell me that it works. At 5000 km my oil looks pretty clean, looks like it’s 100,000 km old after the flush is added!

  • @ttvp1ckle238
    @ttvp1ckle238 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What’s wrong with castrol magnatec?

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It sticks to all the internals and eventually clogs up everything.!!!

  • @davidr4332
    @davidr4332 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bout a 2006 Adventra with the some engine the engine was gone got it cheap then got the whole engine rebuild i changed the oil after it was run in , then on the 5000 km then every 10.000 . After watching a few videos about these engine i have done 42.000km since . NOW am going to start changing the oil at 5000 km as i always change to oil filter too . It won't hurt if anything it will be better at 5000 km oil change , Cheers for the advice .

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try a non Synthetic oil...It gunks up less.

    • @davidr4332
      @davidr4332 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ziggassedup That what i using Full Synthetic extra 10 full zinc 5W - 40 Penrite what do you recommend oil i should use now , Thanks.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@davidr4332 Penrite is what I use...That's what I think...Cheers mate.

    • @OhSoddit
      @OhSoddit ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm curious, how much did the engine rebuild cost?
      How long did it take? (Where did you have it done, and would you recommend them)? Thanks!

  • @iambilsy
    @iambilsy 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey az I just bought a v e r man I'm getting crank and camshaft errors pretty sure the timing chain because obviously very common problem with these engines what sort of ballpark figure am I looking at to get this fixed

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anywhere from 2-3 grand to have a decent place to do the 3 chains parts and labor..

    • @iambilsy
      @iambilsy 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ZIGgassedUP alright cheers man. Bloody shit boxes haha

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      A full chain kit with guides chains tentioners seals and gaskets is about $900 retail...ebay has some cheap ones but you know where they're made right.?

  • @shawnmrfixitlee6478
    @shawnmrfixitlee6478 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would part ways with that one if I was the owner .. Ya did yur best Zig .. Good job man , Thumbs up !!

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe they are going to get rid of it...Cheers Shawn.

  • @fisho4lyf892
    @fisho4lyf892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Got a question, did you have to pull the harmonic balancer off to get that bolt off behind it?

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope...It's a bit fiddly but you can get it.

    • @fisho4lyf892
      @fisho4lyf892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ziggassedup ok awsome thanks for the reply much appreciated

  • @Dougprince72
    @Dougprince72 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bobs your uncle thats a good job. What would you run in the Oil to "Steam Clean " the interior ? Sea-foam, Kerosene

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cheers....I suggest multiple "early" oil changes with a flush added.

    • @jasonsanders3397
      @jasonsanders3397 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sea Foam not sold in Australia

  • @fatstercat
    @fatstercat 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    buyer beware but good job extending the life of the engine a bit more ......dipstick marks ? we don need no dipstick marks!!! we'll make our own dammit!!!!

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Mark...I had to try something for the guy....Beats me how the dipstick broke off.?

    • @jasonsanders3397
      @jasonsanders3397 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ziggassedup I think it's from refitting the sump with the dipstick still in it's tube in the engine; gets caught on a baffle and snaps off the tip.. Happened to me and a mate refitting a sump on a Mazda CX-7. But we didn't add any marks to what was left. Picked up a secondhand dipstick next time we were at the wreckers

  • @GMans-World
    @GMans-World 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so is Magnatec dodgy Zig ??

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I recon so G Man

    • @jeffwhite9001
      @jeffwhite9001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is totally wrong, nothing to do with the oil used in these engines, its a design fault with the PCV system on these engines, doesn't matter what oil you use or how often you change it, these engines will still clog everything up.

  • @MrOzgooner
    @MrOzgooner 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hey mate , what happens if you use castrol magnetec oil ? Holden used that oil for their old 3.8 litre v6..no good ?

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because it sticks to everything it eventually builds up layers that turn into gunk...That's my observation from all the engines I've seen that have run magnatec.

  • @scaredyet
    @scaredyet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where are you located

  • @ashleypope3363
    @ashleypope3363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aaaaaand the owner sells on to the next unsuspenting poor bastard....

  • @johnyoung4467
    @johnyoung4467 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    would love to see a timing chain video on one of these.

    • @iambilsy
      @iambilsy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Next time I have a chain set to replace on an Alloytec I'll turn on the camera for ya..Cheers

    • @hedleyt8095
      @hedleyt8095 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Look up alloy tec timing chain... or v6 Commodore timing chain. There's heaps of videos of them being done

  • @Badgertronix
    @Badgertronix 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's nasty. What's the issue with magnatec? I'd chuck that straight back in the auction

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Castrol advertise that it has "Magnetic" qualities and sticks to all of the rotating and moving parts( and non moving parts) to eliminate dry starts...Sounds good yes.?..But what happens when you change the oil.?..Yep lots of it is stuck to all the internals so you add new oil and more sticks on top of the old stuff and so on as it bakes away and then chunks break away and..Well you know the rest.

    • @bigfella6629
      @bigfella6629 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ive used 10/40 castrol magnetic in all my cars Ive owned since the mid 90s and never had an issue with it. Currently have 60000ks on my alloytech and dont have this gunk issue at all. Mind you I change my oil and filters religiously every 10000ks. Also a side note I know of three Holden service depts that use 10/40 Castrol mag for servicing the 3.6 donk.

  • @closertothetruth9209
    @closertothetruth9209 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    magnatec? is it too thick for the oil filter. I use semi synthetic oils with a dash of heavy duty oil stabilizer along with a bit of proma or nulon friction reducer never had issues myself, nice n clean under the rockers on my own cars even with the horrible vvt. I change my oil every 5000k
    I prefer the earlier holden V6 engines VP - VT their my favourite.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      It sticks to everything so you can't drain it all in an oil change and eventually it builds up.

    • @closertothetruth9209
      @closertothetruth9209 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ZIGgassedUP OK maybe I should steer clear of the thick stuff, I do use engine flush so maybe I won't have that issue

    • @closertothetruth9209
      @closertothetruth9209 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ziggy ford is bringing out a petrol two stroke no valves no vvt horizontally apposed engine /no spark plugs compression ingnited for the F series Ute's, 45% of the power from the fuel will be converted to actual working power instead of 25% that current engines provide. a big f350 will be getting 37mpg city driving instead of 10mpg or so. they're trialling it this year in Saudi Arabia in an attempt to slow the demand for hybrids and 100% electric cars.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting...Where did you hear that.?

    • @closertothetruth9209
      @closertothetruth9209 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      ZIGgassedUP Roadshow on TH-cam

  • @jordanmurray5109
    @jordanmurray5109 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    dis you have to pull off harmonic balancer to get that centre Bolt?

  • @AridersLifeYT
    @AridersLifeYT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ill stick to the older ecotech man, it works heaps better

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm with ya there mate.

  • @Stevei-075
    @Stevei-075 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was told to put Synthetic Diesel 5W-30. it cleans out the Alloytech and keeps it clean.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anything is worth a try

  • @MelodyMan69
    @MelodyMan69 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looks like an ex Company Car. Has two speeds, flat out and stop. Save money on Service costs, dont have time for car being away 1 day. Cheapest fuel.

  • @brendangage9644
    @brendangage9644 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well I'll get My vz checked over thanks

  • @jukkaleppanen2071
    @jukkaleppanen2071 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Use only GM motoroil 5w-30 dexos 2 or 1 and change oil every 5000 miles or 7500-8000 km. Keep engine running. Check thermostat...engine always running right temperature. Just saying.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Preventative maintenance with quality parts is about the best you can do...Cheers mate.

  • @YoungGun.
    @YoungGun. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that the guy from Wolf Creek.

  • @TheDisgruntledMechanic
    @TheDisgruntledMechanic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nasty looking stuff. Hope it last.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      No oil warnings for the time being....Keep your fingers crossed...Cheers Mike.

  • @WallysPlace66
    @WallysPlace66 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good work mate... as usual.

  • @-sandman4605
    @-sandman4605 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Holden made a big mistake or a good money grab with those engines.

  • @Tanoble69
    @Tanoble69 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dam - that is nasty - change your oil - Cheers.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very nasty..Cheers Tom.

  • @drooge42
    @drooge42 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i had sludge problem on pick up so what idid instaed of pulling engine out or droping front end was workout where the pick up would be using scale ruler and photos got a 35mm hole saw drilled through the sump and i was right bang on under the pick up and it was glocgged cleaned it and cleaned out sump running desiel through it ,i made a 60 x60 aluminium 4mm plate drilled holes before i cleaned out and tapped some threads into sump 4 x 10mm bolts made a gasket and used hi temp gasket goo fitted filed with oil beautifull not a proplem . and if i ever do its only 4 small bolts it looks like it is part of the car , i showed my mechanic mate and he dose it all the time now

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good for you.

    • @DARANGULAFILM
      @DARANGULAFILM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have been thinking about this same solution. Can you advise of the centrepoint for the necessary hole? I was also thinking about making an extra concertina strainer out of termimesh to lay in a ramp above and into the oil pool to keep the oil pickup screen cleaner for longer. The valleys in the concertina pattern would gather flaked material but leave enough free surface area at the peaks for oil to pass through. Not sure if there is enough real estate in there to do this.

    • @drooge42
      @drooge42 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DARANGULAFILM i used a scale ruler and got pictures of the sump online worked it out like that

    • @DARANGULAFILM
      @DARANGULAFILM 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drooge42 Thanks for that info. The oiling seems to have been the Alloytech's fatal flaw. The everyman's car is not always maintained for the best. Manufacturers sealing the engines up to stew in their own juice has not been helpful. It seems that to enable the computers to maintain a healthy mixure balance, the amount of airflow through the engine case to remove fumes and vapours has been heavily restricted. When an engine begins to make blowby, the case pressure becomes positive and it seems that the blowby pressure vents via the intake tube to the intake path before the throttle body, not the PCV valve.

    • @drooge42
      @drooge42 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DARANGULAFILM i used these photos you can see in one where it goes forums.justcommodores.com.au/attachments/img_1164-768x1024-jpg.162108/ forums.justcommodores.com.au/attachments/img_4156-2-jpg.130055/

  • @jefflindsey9589
    @jefflindsey9589 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job there Zig!

  • @robbiegwinn
    @robbiegwinn 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow .......from the oil they use and not changing oil like they should eh?....nice repair sir....i remember quaker state had shit oil back in the 70's
    football season started tonight....

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's that Magnatec stuff Rob...It sticks to everything.!...Our football season is nearing it's end..Cheers mate.

  • @camaromodschannel
    @camaromodschannel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job mate.

  • @milkyway6724
    @milkyway6724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome job.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheers mate 👍

    • @milkyway6724
      @milkyway6724 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ziggassedup hey brother, i wanna get my timing chain an oil pump done how much you reckon will it cost me. thanks in advance

  • @wtbm123
    @wtbm123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool

  • @asicerik
    @asicerik 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a pro Zig!

  • @tomislavzivkovic7106
    @tomislavzivkovic7106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOOOW....

  • @huck01955
    @huck01955 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work zig

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you.

    • @nofoxgiven6315
      @nofoxgiven6315 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      *How hard is it to get a sump off of a ve ute? and to suck the filter in like that dose the oil pump push the oil to the outside of the filter or suck it thru the outside to the inside and since your going to reply ill sub you.*

  • @grahambate3384
    @grahambate3384 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6.8l oil not 4.8l

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is that what I said.?...There's no script when shooting vids one take.and plenty of people say one thing when they mean another but thanks for pointing that out Graham.

    • @aussiedream69
      @aussiedream69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Manual says 6.2l of oil, just saying

  • @dwaynewhitaker7577
    @dwaynewhitaker7577 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    new oil marks lol take care buddy and dont work to hard

  • @kphillips7922
    @kphillips7922 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Number 4 Conrod looks cooked.

  • @Thegaragefiles
    @Thegaragefiles 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job, looks unmolested

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I try my best Dennis.

  • @zzzdogutube
    @zzzdogutube 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ziggy, thanks

  • @OGVSOGLUCKY
    @OGVSOGLUCKY 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bad for own that Ve I rebuilt Ve ute have 20000 km on the clock Insurance claim the previous owner had and was auction off at some action line and I was like Jesus this guy who

  • @markusslesmale2819
    @markusslesmale2819 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    G'day Ziggy, Markuss here,
    Got the same Check Oil warning happening with my recently purchased WM Statesman (second hand of course) after watching your video, I have come the conclusion that my engine may be suffering the same issue. The cars service history is unknown.
    Some on here are mentioning 5W-30 Diesel Engine OIl to flush it out? Does this work? Have you used this process before?
    At present I use Penrite's full synthetic engine oils and there engine flush solution, and believe it does a pretty good job, do you have any suggestions or brands? Or are they much the same and full's back to personal preference?
    th-cam.com/video/ZH5BMKqIvpc/w-d-xo.html

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you changed the oil since you've owned it.?..Does it rattle.?.

    • @markusslesmale2819
      @markusslesmale2819 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ziggassedup
      Yes mate, I have changed the oil and flushed it with engine flush.
      And no, the engine is purring like a kitten, really quite engine, beautiful idle, all good on that side.
      After I changed the Oil I reset the fault codes I went for a drive and about 15min's later the Check Oil Warning popped up again?
      Was puzzled as I knew the engine oil level was perfect. So now I am thinking either a faulty sensor or a build-up of sludge and at worst what you found. I don't know the history of the car only that it the km's are 99% Highway

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markusslesmale2819 Oil switches did play up in those engines...Do you know how to enter engineering mode on the dash.?

    • @markusslesmale2819
      @markusslesmale2819 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ziggassedup Yeah mate, what am I looking for?

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markusslesmale2819 Does it say the oil life left is 0.?..Just wondering.

  • @chrispinney4858
    @chrispinney4858 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    W

  • @alexdebruin7454
    @alexdebruin7454 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've just bought a VZ commodore not long ago with 165000 km and got this issue at 175000 km never buying holden again

  • @rogerhobday8369
    @rogerhobday8369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I understand that my comment comes 6 years after the event, but. I can't express strongly enough how crappy Castrol oil is in modern engines. It wasn't even any good in the long term 50 years ago when I was building worked Red motors that could pull 80000 rpm every day in 40deg c. Castrol oil has always produced hard shalacs that just blocks everything. My oils of choice are Mobil, Penrite, valvoline, Nulon, Shell, Caltex. All of these are so much better than Castrol.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  ปีที่แล้ว

      I couldn't agree with you more...Cheers Roger.

    • @jasonsanders3397
      @jasonsanders3397 ปีที่แล้ว

      So, pretty much anything other than Castrol

  • @HDXFH
    @HDXFH 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Junk engines

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep.

    • @jasonsanders3397
      @jasonsanders3397 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Waughy And that's their problem. A lot of people can't or won't. Or just don't know its even a thing to be concerned about. Zig won't like what I'm going to say, being the Holden Man he is, but a Ford Barra six will tolerate abuse of a sort and duration that would quickly destroy an alloytec. There's a guy at work with a NA Barra six in his Territory and at some stage that he's not quite sure of, but certainly a few months ago, he blew his head gasket on the Barra, and because he's lazy and doesn't really care about the car, but also because it keeps going, he hasn't fixed anything or done any work other than topping up the coolant occasionally. But this poor motor in his Territory has been running on an oil/coolant sludge for the bearings etc since well before Christmas. And while it's noisy (he also runs a 3 inch muffler delete exhaust though), he canes the living shit out of it and it keeps getting him to and from work. Although as someone else at work observed as the noisy Territory grunted loudly away from the carpark one night, you wouldn't take it on a long trip. But the point is I think that an alloytec would've been long dead and buried. They're a finicky fussy sissy sort of motor that shits its pants really badly, unless you treat it right. And of course Japanese motors have been a bit like this for a long time. But the alloytec is worse

  • @markaz2kk
    @markaz2kk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never use that magnatech crap 💩 it will burn your car a new one ☝️.

    • @ziggassedup
      @ziggassedup  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep.

    • @thehassanhashemi
      @thehassanhashemi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ziggassedup what is bad about the Castrol magnetic? And their other than magnetic is good oil then??