@@gioziss I think it's honestly easier to just learn Jap than to understand whatever auto translation spits out. Funny though that title says ENG SUB :D Is it invitation for community to translate? lol
Still nothing on the sub side, long time since this title/subtitle mishap has occurred - hoping that someone is on the job cause this is an interesting battle!
You don't know how much I love you guys. You are the only one to take a Renault Twingo (I'm french but in love with japanese cars and french hot hatches too). I would love to see some Peugeot one day. Like the 308 GTi VS Civic Type R as you did with the Megane RS many times. Domi arigato gozaimasu 😌🙏🙏
This channel is amazing. The west has forgotten so much since the late 90s, especially with regards to simple street racing and light, maneuverable enthusiast's cars.
In France we have a car that looks like the magnificent Honda S660 and it's Renault Wind. Sadly it doesn't have the enthusiasm as the Honda because we are not used to small cars and even Kei cars. It's just about different car culture
The wingo actually seems like a fun little car for a frenchie, but I knew the S660 would take this home. Lower center of mass and lighter weight combined with its excellent handling characteristics. It's everything I love about kei cars!
The 2012 Twingo had a RS version with up to 133hp in some special edition. This one is a lot worse, sadly. 10:10 It's very obvious Tsuchiya has always driven touring cars and GT cars. If he had experience in motorbikes, he'd know when to shift just using his ears!
@@federico297 Yeah, but the grip levels are total different. Imagine the s660 would be on winter tires (because stock) and the twingo would be on Semi slicks (sports package etc). This makes the whole race meaningless. It's not surprise that a much lighter, midengine car with track tires is faster on a windy road. The race would have been more interesting if the Twingo had similar tires.
Having owned 2 Renaults - not again. Love them but the electronics... 🤦🏻♀️ My Avantime are through my salary like a hungry caterpillar (repair bills) but excellent everywhere else...
I know, but the "wind" is technically a "twingo" roadster so it makes more sense to compare the "s660" with it. The basic "twingo" is not supposed to be driven for sports. There is also the "twingo RS". Was the format comparing only currently produced cars? If that is true, maybe it is not that smart. I will never buy a basic "twingo" against an "s660" lol.
I god give me chance to move to Japan, I considering this Honda s660, looks fun to drive. but problem is Japan has many JDM cars to choose from, I'm have hard time choosing. I want go to Japan.
@@Flyingdutchy33 Which is not a sports version - which does not exist on this generation of Twingo, sadly. Basically any Renault that's not built at the Dieppe factory is not engineered or intended as a sports car (with very few exceptions). This one is basically just a more luxurious version. Such a waste imo, they could have gone with a R5 Turbo hommage by making a 130-150hp version with boxy wide fenders and meaty tyres. Also dogshit eco tyres vs AD08s, no chance to compete.
S660の時にファミリーカーには負けるわけにはいかないよって言ってたのに、トゥインゴに乗ったらちゃんといいところバリバリ褒めてるし、頑張れ頑張れって車に応援してるし、すごく楽しそうなのが伝わってくる。やっぱり純粋に車が好きなんだなってよくわかる。
6:23車に頑張れ頑張れって言いながら運転してんの、好きだなぁー
S660 looks like a mini super car and the Twingo looks like a puppy dog that's ready to play. I love them both.
I just bought the puppy dog that's ready to play :)
勝負前から重心や電子制御の件でS660の勝利は予想出来た。
愛車はトゥインゴインテンスながら、曲がるのが本当に楽しい一台で大人四人乗れる車として考えると本当に良い一台です。
when you're so early and theres no eng sub yet
*sad international fan noises*
Without english sub
Just auto translate the page to English and enjoy our Japanese petrol comrades' comments. You can also turn on captions with english translate
@@gioziss I tried auto translate for a couple minutes...it's clearly very, very, very wrong.
@@gioziss I think it's honestly easier to just learn Jap than to understand whatever auto translation spits out. Funny though that title says ENG SUB :D Is it invitation for community to translate? lol
Still nothing on the sub side, long time since this title/subtitle mishap has occurred - hoping that someone is on the job cause this is an interesting battle!
You don't know how much I love you guys. You are the only one to take a Renault Twingo (I'm french but in love with japanese cars and french hot hatches too). I would love to see some Peugeot one day. Like the 308 GTi VS Civic Type R as you did with the Megane RS many times. Domi arigato gozaimasu 😌🙏🙏
it's really fun to see they driving these cars.
most peaceful touge battle ever
土屋さんが最初に「頑張れよーお前はスポーツカーだぞ！」って車に語り掛けるの好き
トゥインゴ、このパッケージングでこの小回りは街乗りですごく助かりそうだし、攻めたら攻めたで楽しそう。
コレにしかないフランス車らしい際立ったキャラがとても魅力的。
なによりそんなクルマをよく街中で見かけるってのが、なんというか嬉しい。
まだまだクルマは楽しいぞ。
パッケージの仕方にセンスがありますよね！
トゥインゴを街中で見ると私もうれしくなります。
スポーツカーじゃなくても楽しめる個性のある車は本当に貴重です。
ハイグリップじゃなくてエコタイヤでバランスが取れている所も悪い点ではないと思います。
ネオバとブルーアースでコンマ9しか変わらないの凄いな
馬力差があるとはいえサスの動きもあるし
This channel is amazing. The west has forgotten so much since the late 90s, especially with regards to simple street racing and light, maneuverable enthusiast's cars.
トゥインゴは国産には無い個性があって魅力的だな
this channel is underrated , it deserves more appreciation
トゥインゴGTの5MT持ってます、ギヤが結構ワイドレシオですが、低速からトルクあるので楽チンに走れる感じです、結構背が高い事もあり、峠を攻めようとはあまり思いませんが、フロントにエンジンがない鼻先の軽さは楽しいです。
途中フォグランプが片方しか点灯していないのは、フォグランプにステアリング連動のコーナーリングランプ機能があり、撮影時ステアリングを右に切っているから、右側だけ点灯してるのです。
試乗車のトゥインゴGTの5MTに乗ったのですが足場が狭くて特に左足の置き場に困ったのですがなれるものなのでしょうか？
主観で結構なのでご意見伺えるとありがたいです。
トゥインゴはシートとタイヤと車高調入れればとても楽しくなりそう
こういう車たちこそ日本の道路に合ってると思う
シビックだって正直見た目ファミリーカーなのにチューニング楽しいってなったからtwingoもそんな車になるといいね
この組み合わせ、最高に嬉しいです
ノーマルエスロクの峠全開映像が見れて嬉しいです。しかも私のと同色‼️
しかも土屋さんドライブで勝利😊
トゥインゴGTも好きなので繰り返し何回も見てしまう。
3:05みんな大好き会話シーン
C'est vendredi, c'est Best Motoring :)
J'aurais jamais imaginé une battle pareille X)
Twingo !
ナレーションが「DASH峠」った感じ
That was fun, especially ""TOUGE BAATTLE" announcement , with that 2 little cars standing nearby.
Ha the pan over the two GT-Rs to the little superminis made me genuinely LOL
Great. I need to learn japanese to understand but Twingo is a gem
The Twingo GT is the best car I've ever owned and that includes a 205 GTi 1.6 back in the 1980s.
このサイズでMRなのか。すごいロマンあるな。
In France we have a car that looks like the magnificent Honda S660 and it's Renault Wind. Sadly it doesn't have the enthusiasm as the Honda because we are not used to small cars and even Kei cars. It's just about different car culture
And in Germany there was Smart Roadster.
when corona virus is over, i need to take a holiday to japan
Which holiday would you bring over there?
when you in Japan , you must go touge by AE86😎
トゥインゴはリアをディスクにしてタコ付けて、タイヤを175 65 15と215 45 17か205 55 16にしてあげればベースカーとして化ける。
MTでタコメーター無いのは致命的だよなぁ…
@@shouhei9 自分で付けるんだよ！
タイヤでっっか ヨレヨレやん
I love their contrasting driving styles. Really fascinating!
隙あらばセクハラ親父で草
Please put english titles 😃
That Twingo GT is super fun to drive, I tested it, it is such a great agile small city car
The wingo actually seems like a fun little car for a frenchie, but I knew the S660 would take this home. Lower center of mass and lighter weight combined with its excellent handling characteristics. It's everything I love about kei cars!
Look the tyres...
Imagine a K swap on that S660. that'll be mad
Probably has been done already
That would be awwweesome!!! Maybe add some wider tires to it as well!!
現在S６６０に乗っています。トゥインゴGTは嫁さんに乗って欲しい車！
僕にとっては注目の対決ですね(^^)
ちなみに、S６６０の前は前の方のトゥインゴGTに乗っていました！！
S660は小さくてもハイパフォーマンスカー！ドリドリたちキャスターさんの走りを見るだけで乗りたくなります。
優等生にも普通の子にも分け隔てなく応援してくれるこんな先生が担任なったら最高
土屋さんがS6を猫の様になだめてて優しさが伝わってくる♫
5:41土屋さんが近所にお買い物に出掛けるシーンです。多分。
Please remove "〈ENG-Sub〉" from the title...
Merci Twingo!
The 2012 Twingo had a RS version with up to 133hp in some special edition. This one is a lot worse, sadly.
10:10 It's very obvious Tsuchiya has always driven touring cars and GT cars. If he had experience in motorbikes, he'd know when to shift just using his ears!
The racing helmets and cabin insulate a lot of that noise, and road cars are highly refined these days
English subs please. Eco tyres on the Twingo, Track day tyres on the S660 made this comparison not worthy.
yeah eng sub would be nice. I love best motoring but this isn't the first time that they compare cars with complete different tires.
The ad08r are standard on the s660!! They're both stock
Exactly
AD08Rs comes stock from factory with the S660.
@@federico297 Yeah, but the grip levels are total different. Imagine the s660 would be on winter tires (because stock) and the twingo would be on Semi slicks (sports package etc). This makes the whole race meaningless. It's not surprise that a much lighter, midengine car with track tires is faster on a windy road. The race would have been more interesting if the Twingo had similar tires.
その通りです！S660は最高傑作なマシンです！
スズキも セルボクーペ （ R R ）2 ＋2 の 作ってくんないかな～❕
セルボの駆動はRRですか？
型式によってはFF.RR.FRがあります
僕の好きな旧軽車フロンテSSとフロンテクーペはRRです
「モデューロのタイムに届かず！」って、ノーマルとほとんど変わらないタイムなんだけど・・・
モデューロ店畳んだ方が良いんじゃ（苦笑
タイヤは同じでやって欲しい感があるw
ネオバ圧倒的に有利
素のトゥインゴGTにネオバ履かせたらタイヤに負けそうｗ
バランス悪いとかえって遅くなったり危険な車になるんじゃない。
Amusant! merci, arrigato! bise de France au Japon!
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Well I did not know English is now in Kanji.
コース上切り返し無しでUターンしてるのスゴいw
Having owned 2 Renaults - not again. Love them but the electronics... 🤦🏻♀️ My Avantime are through my salary like a hungry caterpillar (repair bills) but excellent everywhere else...
S660とトゥインゴを比較することに無理がある。でも車の特性が露わになって面白かったです。
車をよくこんなに扱えるよなあ。
Desearía saber si existe en vuestra nación algún tipo de preparadores para estos motores.Muchas gracias 🙏👍
軽とはいえ、流石ピュアスポーツカーのＳロク^^
面目躍如といったところでしょうが、トゥインゴは意外な頑張りでＡセグ4人乗りコンパクトカーですが、なかなか侮れない車ですね。
地味に見たかった！
やっぱりh4bはいいエンジンなんだな、
I own a light blue s660 (that colour is now discontinued). A very fun kei car. I don't see it winning many races, but fun nonetheless
トゥインゴGTタコメーター無いんかい！
リヤエンジンのMTってだけでめっちゃオモロイ車なのに残念😢
I was gonna travel to japan for the first time ever this year.... but then covid..
I didn't understand one thing. Best Motoring finished in 2011 but there are some new videos. So it came back?
Not realy, they just upload the old stuff.
The "Renault Wind" could have been a better challenger to the "Honda s660", no?
i had one all black , stage 1 remap with and exhaust and lowering springs. was so much fun to drive
Wind production stopped two years before the S660 went on sale, so they weren't concurrent.
The Wind was discontinued years ago.
I know, but the "wind" is technically a "twingo" roadster so it makes more sense to compare the "s660" with it. The basic "twingo" is not supposed to be driven for sports. There is also the "twingo RS".
Was the format comparing only currently produced cars? If that is true, maybe it is not that smart. I will never buy a basic "twingo" against an "s660" lol.
For 150 kg + difference ,family car just a second off a mid engine sporty car not bad twingo .
Sorry to bother but there is no subtitles available. Thank you.
ツゥインゴは所詮フランス車だと思っていいたが、コーナーリング姿勢は今風の欧州車だね。このタイプ好きです。
仏車はちょっといじれば化けるイメージ
素材はいいけどちゃんとメイクしないから映えない女の子のイメージ
タイヤがほぼ同じサイズでブルーアースとネオバじゃなあ...
攻めてる時にこんなに笑ってる回あったか？w
I like how in the thumbnail the Twingo’s foglight is off
That is usually the auto fogs for when you turn it lights up the corner you are going round my fiesta has the same thing
織戸さんのコメント全て、土屋圭一もお歳をとりました、と言うのが感想。
この価格でバランス良く仕立てられているのがルノー・Twingo。
次回は、
トゥインゴVS up!
をやって欲しいです！
トゥインゴのタイヤはツーリングタイヤですよね。
確かにエコなタイヤ群ではありますが、ヨコハマはツーリングタイヤとしてブルーアース エースをラインナップしてました。
今は悲しいかなブルーアース エースから訴求性を上げるべく名を変えて、ブルーアースGTにしてしまいました。
ただのエコタイヤと扱われてしまうので名を変えるのは正しい選択かも…です。
ストレートでは引き離せるトゥインゴGTだが、コーナーの度にESP(横滑り防止装置)が介入し
エンジン出力が絞られ、ブレーキもつままれてるから峠でのノーマル勝負は厳しいですね。
S660はリミッターカットのほか他の電子制御はカットしてたのかな。
メーター表示を見る限りTCSのみ切ってますね。コマンド入力でVSAも切れますがそこまでやってませんね。
そういえば以前のモデューロS660の時はVSA＋TCS全部OFFでのタイムだったのですが
今回はVSA切っていなくてこのタイムという事はモデューロはノーマルと殆ど変わらｎ・・・・いや何でも無いですｗ
S660 vs Renault wind next?
Inglish ans Spanish Sub ......
7:52 どっかの高架下でグルグル回ってるスマートを思い出したw
迷った？(笑
トゥインゴ ロールはするんだけど、減衰が高いから結構乗り味固め
あと、ペダルレイアウトとギア比が微妙
けど、面白い🤣
No eng subs but I still enjoyed it
I god give me chance to move to Japan, I considering this Honda s660, looks fun to drive. but problem is Japan has many JDM cars to choose from, I'm have hard time choosing. I want go to Japan.
I want to go to Japan with Twingo GT for revenge, I can't stand being defeated by a small japanese car!
頑張れ頑張れ車に声かけるのがほんと印象いい
S660やっぱりイイな^ ^乗りたくなりました
Why don´t Honda bring the S660 to Europe, I would definitely buy one.
Emision standarts
Paint the twingo in french blue and two white Strips. GORDINI!
Does anyone know the name of the song at the beginning of the video?
The twingo IS a good french Key car but these so much limitations contrôles....
スマートやったらタコメーターついてるしそっちの方がいいかもしれない
Twingo needs a Renault Sport or Alpine edition.
This was already a GT edition. It already lost in the handling department.
@@Flyingdutchy33 Which is not a sports version - which does not exist on this generation of Twingo, sadly. Basically any Renault that's not built at the Dieppe factory is not engineered or intended as a sports car (with very few exceptions). This one is basically just a more luxurious version. Such a waste imo, they could have gone with a R5 Turbo hommage by making a 130-150hp version with boxy wide fenders and meaty tyres.
Also dogshit eco tyres vs AD08s, no chance to compete.
ルノー「ホットハッチのリヤスペースって無駄じゃね？せや！エンジン載せたろ！」
スマート…
クリオ・ルノー・スポール「おっ、そうやな」
クリオV6…ww
フランス人なのに、コテコテの関西弁で草
5ターボ「せやろか？」
これは面白い対決ですね。
Nice Episode :D
Can anyone tell me what song plays at 0:32 min
Set me free babe
S660ちっこくてかわいい
Do you know the meaning of ?
ルノーツィンゴGTのステリアリングの切れ凄いな。
トゥインゴＧＴは偏心しているステアリングがマイナスだけど、それ以外は良さそうだなぁ。
とってもおしゃれだし。
トゥインゴより名車のアルトワークスh21SのR-SZで4WDの方が好きですね❗トゥインゴはファミリーカーには良いけど・・・タコメーターが無いのが嫌だな～😅
They have to get a gt350r and a new gt500 and put them on the touge!!
I prefer 90s Twongi
No ENG sub !?
トゥインゴの仲間のスマートフォーに乗ったけどめっちゃおもろかった！
タイヤの差の前に排気量もねw
でもS660は100馬力あればやばそうだね。
English subtitles please.
I have no idea what these lads are saying but I fucking love it
12:30 絶対チ○コ♪ チ○コ♪のノリで言ってるよねw
MAX笑ってるしな