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5 minutes in and I've learned more than in all the reading generated thus far. No spoilers for me...just makes the rest of the research smooth sailing. Thank you Dr Puca! Edit side note: CAOS in other words be original don't "plagiaris" stop "lip siyncing" and write your own music. In case your hungry "make your own cusine" "clean your own kitchen"
You speak with such sympathy and understanding and pass it along effectively. This form of practice feels healthy, creative and good natured. Much pinging / resonances with Jung’s active imagination project. Hugely relevant topic, foundational.
That was your best lecture yet Dr Puca, the way you used philosophers like Kant to illuminate the ideas and practices that developed into Chaos Magick was very effective. Thanks.
@@drangelapucaGrazie Dr. Angela Puca for a refresher and an encouragement to delve deeper into chaos magick. The way you explain keeps many of us truly focused.The word antinomianism is a word I truly needed. Pleased with the word Kia. Not just a word to yell in karate or a name of a car.
Don't forget the influence of Robert Anton Wilson & Robert Shea with their trilogy "Illuminatus", which included the utterance "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted", & the Philosophy of Discordism. Also Michael Moorcock's fantasy stories including "The King of Swords" where the magician Kwll gets rid of not only the Lords of Chaos but the Lords of Order as well. I'm not sure that the use of the definitive article as with "THE PHILOSOPHY of Chaos Magic/k" is appropriate as Chaos Magicians tend to be Anarchistic & individual as is their philosophies. To try to reconnect with the Kia is like a dog trying to be one with itself by catching its tail, it reaffirms the belief of disconnection, which isn't gnosis. "Chaos Magic/k would say...", personification much?
Brilliant lecture, bravo! I've recently finished reading a book about Pete Carroll called "Interview with a Wizard". Fascinating read, it reveals a lot about his life, his philosophy, his magick and many other subjects. Listening to your lecture I was reminded of a couple of chaotes I used to know who experimented with radionic devices for magical purposes. One purchased a multi thousand dollar device from Germany with orgone generators, amplifiers, power electronics, the lot. The other used just a empty reinforced-carton box with just some external buttons and switches, just for the sleight of mind. You'd be really surprised if you knew who had more successes in magick.
Flawlessly done! I can't think of a more succinct, comprehensive, exemplary job that really explains the PoV of the many usually misunderstood aspects of everything from Left Hand Practices to how to create your own Sigil RITE NOW! Every sentence has had at least Chapters if not full Books written about elsewhere, & a better job couldn't be done in 40ish minutes by anyone else. Bravo!
@@drangelapuca Not for me, but it will be helpful for everyone who comes here wanting to know more about Chaos Magick, sorting Signal from Noise. As a Chaote since the 90's, I highly approve 😉
I'm currently enjoying invoking Spider-Man - after finally watching the last movie - as I both Play the Sony Video Game, & DODGE! the Drama coming my way IRL lol 😉
Kabbalah goes much, much deeper, the high work of the soul.....it was from the study of Kabbalah that Aleister Crowley got most of his deepest insights and ideas. He said it was invaluable and is indeed a lifetime's study....or even lifetimes.... 😊
I haven't listened to this yet, but love the amount of time you're spending with Chaos Magick at the moment. Would have loved to see you speak while you were in the UK but I'm sure there will be another time. Greetings from Bristol.
Inspiring and adorable. The nicest example of an internet era understanding of Austin Osman Spare projected onto the past that I have had the good fortune to listen to.
The car brand actually took the name from the concept of soul with this name; so yeah, their car named "Kia Soul" is like Dodge doing a car named "Dodge Evade" (which doesn't exist, as it is a bit silly)
After studying so many of your short form videos - listening to lecture longform about that some content to a different audience really helps me draw some new understandings of the landscape were working with. Thank you!
Very well done! Thanks for posting this, and thank you to Witchfest for making it possible that you could give this presentation! It looks like it was tons of fun, and I am envious (but in a positive way!) that you were able to go to this and have such a great time!
Excellent work. You seem more comfortable on stage than ever. I can't help but wonder if "Kia" is related to concept of "Ki"/"Chi" as a fundamental "life-force" found in many Eastern Traditions? Thanks for posting the vid. Cheers!
Ki/Chi. The most basic meaning of Chi, at least as far as I've been able to trace it, is "pole" *as in a ridge pole that separates a roof into a light and shade side). The "yin/yang" symbol is called Tai Chi (Supreme ultimate Chi(. Closer to the idea of chaos is Wu Chi. We is usually translated as "no" or "not", NOT Chi. Chi implies polarization, right/left, this/that, light/dark yin/yang. Wu Chi is almost unimaginable, unconceptualizable. So Wu Chi would look more like Kia while Tai Chi (or any "lesser" Chi would look more like Zos. At least this is how I read it from years spent in Taoist texts and the I Ching.
Hi Dr Puca! I'm so glad I've found your channel, this lecture was particularly great, you have a beautiful way of explaining such profound concepts. I really appreciated the way in which you connected the philosophy of Kant and Nietzsche with the chaos magick. After many years of search I think I've finally found a path that condenses everything I've been thinking and studying. Thank you so much for your invaluable work!! I send you a big hug from Argentina 🤗✨
Just given the image you used in the thumbnail and what you called this video, I HAVE to make a WH40k reference. I can’t resist! THE RUINOUS FORCES OFF CHAOS HAVE INFECTED THIS PLANET! PREPARE THE EXTERMINATUS PROTOCOL! FOR THE EMPEROR!
yesterday i dreamed of myself holding a mummy and crying, saying "please don't die again", and as i was criyng the mummy looked more and more fresh, almost coming back to life. in the morning, this video popped out on youtube. i am now feeling a deep regret for giving up on magic and spirituality for so many years, totally absorbed by the everyday life. i think i should go back to when i was younger and full of hope and energy, and try to bring back some pieces of that version of me
Channeling Buffy is a brilliant idea. Ive found that even "invented" deities leave either a void (in chaos magick, a place for KIA to flow) or an invitation (in the mystic sense, Buffy would certainly get the attention of Arftemis, Diana, etc...) it's led to some very unique and incomprehensibly weird experiences but thats what I signed up for, thanks as always for your insight!
I'm currently enjoying invoking Spider-Man - after finally watching the last movie - as I both Play the Sony Video Game, & DODGE! the Drama coming my way IRL lol 😉
I am so excited to listen to your symposium. I was wondering whether you would consider speaking about metaphysics. I do believe this is a topic most interesting and even if mentions small in quantity it would be very entertaining. Thank You so much for your excellent lectures.💘
I have always been very fascinated by Chaos Magick. I think it's probably the most seminal modern development in recent esoteric history. And also it seems tailor made for isolationists like myself who came stomach joining hierarchical organizations with vague (and costly) benefits. This talk was one of the best I've heard on the subject. Both informative and succinct. I do wonder that you mentioned the books Liber Null and Psychonaut in the talk but don't list them in the references. Did you access these books or were they simply not useful enough? Also, as a note to others, in perusing the transcript I definitely noticed that the transcript includes info that isn't actually in the speech itself. Especially in the section discussing gnosis. Definitely worth it for people to look at the transcript.
There is now access to the curated transcript for this video at www.innersymposium.study/?p=5262 and there is a quiz to help remember what you learned here www.innersymposium.study/?page_id=4830
Not too far from the formula my Christian witch Auntie shared with me. (She wouldn’t have called herself a witch, but she was definitely sharing magic spells). She told me to draw what I wanted my future to be, put it someplace I would see at least three times a day, and say a certain ‘prayer’ three times every time I stared at the picture. This is much more redacted, as you say, trimmed down to only what is necessary, but it feels very close. I like the concept of the Kia, too. The world is full of unlimited potential energy. We only have to draw it in, focus it. I will go to the library and find Austin Osman Spare’s books.
Very true, i have Chaos magic, when something has to to happen. The only thing i need is very determent, i do all good, but when something has to change to keep te Balance, i go straight to the source in a short time i touch the sourc with the thing that has to happen, all good vibes and pure open hearted and manifest it, is goes normally, i never read a book about it. I dont certainly know if you can Learn that . I was born with it , by the almighty where i got this gift. I dont need any onees thank, but i am helping the world ,Universe, to keep the balance and Protect The Almighty. Chaos magic can be the Strongest magic. and yes i was born left handed, mostly i use my left hand with a movement and it's done.
The problems I have with discussing your personal beliefs are: 1, personal means for you only, 2) your great results are for you, 3) never share your craft, only with your hiers.
What is, is; the idea that you can't seperate anything from existence. The claiming of your own authority within that Existence; the acceptance of external influence, though everything is from a common source. I think the Idea is you do not proclaim what you don't know, but your not going to concede to another authority aside from respect to that common existence(source). I am not well read on Chaos Magic, so this is more of a question? I've been practicing my whole Life.
Great lecture! Question. Do you think there are strong similarities between the Kia of Chaos Magic and the "Astral light" in reference to Baphomet from the writings of Eliphas Levi? I also want to note that Chaos practitioners hold Baphomet in high regard. What do you think?
I remember one hallmark was to take tantric left hand path techniques out of context (under the guise of removing the layers of superstition and religiosity). For example, you would spend a specified amount of time (week, month, etc) only referring to yourself in the 3rd person. In taking these techniques out of context, as practitioners we had hubris. The broad danger is that it's easy to fool ourselves, precious egotism and so on. Hasta la vista
I respect the amount of knowlege you have.... i have been practicing some magic, but i have only destroyed my life so far... i realy need some answers. Can i write an email to you?
My understanding of the word "magick" refers to the worship of body fluids found within Thelema and body parts talismanically it's weird for me personally to see the word outside of this context nowadays.
13:30 it seems like vageta moving on to yet another new thing and being cocky somewhat having a lasting conservative ring abled for furthering by the alignments made of the sourcely to the task, or like Goku being more playful and invoking a sentimental enchantment into the auxiliary source while looking like a syllogistic enthememe but actually being a syllogism after sending what is more held by him for a time before maybe ‘throwing his aura’ like ashtakanma siddhi explained well for you by Nithyananda; vageta is definitely the syllogismistic enthememe while knowing that at the actual time of action is able to afford then being a syllogism that is safe and non wasteful, yummy (do these correspondences resonate? 😂.
Goku is the wizard that expands the thing to make it collapse propelling it into perfection development, and vageta is the sorcerer who uses the ratios from the outside to retune the inside.
I thought their was a belief in Chaos Magic that there is no real truth, that they emphasize 'belief' to change their reality, whatever they want to believe, in a way which is similar to solipsism or relativism, as opposed to acknowledging there is objective truth. And I certainly believe truth is objective and knowable, so not sure I agree with Spare's religious beliefs here if that is actually what he believed (or maybe it was his followers who later emphasized that aspect of it? Maybe wikipedia is wrong? Ha I wouldn't be surprised) Very interesting nonetheless
Very helpful in understanding some very abstract ideas. I understand the psychological understanding model in the occult, ( not a practitioner..only an artist) it’s helpful for me as an artist, not sure in ways how different magician are from artists….? There is a lot of crossover.. but I wonder If it is limited at times? Not a scholar, so I ask this with humility.. I have a friend and practicing magician/occultist.. and he has a great saying, “it’s Jungian until it isn’t..” at what point does a thing become limited and needs to change ? Like language or logic has its limit, then we go full subconscious where the language of that realm is symbol, allegory, apology.. etc.. hopefully I am making sense…? This is why I paint… I am better with images.. but a very simple example is, it’s jungian until the practitioner , in the circle sees a entity… I know you address this briefly, but could you expound on this concept for a feeble mind😂😂😂🙏…?
I know nothing about chaos magic other than what you describe, it sounds to me like people searching for a cleaner path among predetermined paths set forth by generations of beliefs. But I will comment on the sort of basis for anti-nomian thought within logical thought. You have cult A, they have piety rules that value upward us behaviors and value downward them behaviors. You have cult B and their rules. You have cult C and their rules. And when you look at these cults they tend to have power figures who determine whether the rules are being followed And when you examine the history of the cult it looks likes the rules evolved to empower select groups at the expense of other groups. For example you bring you first fruits to the temple, you offer your first born to sacrifice or pay a priest. And so if you see these other cults as following something and following away from something, the their piousness is also a falling away. And so piety rules in themselves dont have any value out side the cult, and if you leave the cult they shouldn't have value to the self. In regard to the divine, again divinity is a human projection, so what piety rules should one project within the self to the self. And so to say rules have no value, thats not the case, rules can have value, but they dont have value just because a cleric or cultic text tries to project value. Lets take the Thou shall not kill, its one of the 613 laws of Moses, and the followers of moses seem to be doing a good job at the moment of divinating justification to kill, just as "Moses" decided it was a good idea to kill the midianites. Whereas the question is asked weren't the midianites his belived wife and family? What is the function of a rule if a priest can come up with reasons to break the rule? If you believe murder is bad, then thats how you should live, you dont need a rule, just live you internal mores. The second issue here is reality. We live between two definitions of reality and truth, that which we percieve and physical circumstances which at some level devolve into fuzziness. And so reality is never well defined. In science what is true, scientist almist use the word. The reason is this, when you work at the bench, results are never unique and punctate. The closest you can get to the truth most times is to have several independent perspectives that tell you were truth isnt. For example the wavefunction of an electron shot through a double slit can land practically land anywhere in the universe, the nodes of probability extend away from the center each subsequently lower probability, vanishingly low at extreme distances. This is the truth, we don't know, no matter how precise the equipment were the electron will register. And so we get back to functional realities and function truths. When you breath your last breath your dead. When the sun comes over the horizon you feel heat. If a villian fires a high power rifle at a person, and the person dies, he is a murderer. These are realities we create to abstractly understand and simplfy the world. But reality has been misused. Lets take a look at 2 cor 12, whether in the body or out, that is to say Paul is equating his experience with actually traveling outside his body and seeing something he thinks, at some level is real. He then used that reality to do certain things that by an outsider observer would seem untrue, many died thinking they would be drawn up to the kingdom of heaven coming on Earth, it did not happen. We have to question the realism others present, because we dont know how they are filtering what they percieved. Most westerners believe that Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected, but the texts they use seem to be saying this well after the early witnesses claimed they had visions, not actually observing a dead body rise. And so these belief based creeds have to be interoggated. There is one mythical story, a man, a pious man, the world turned against him. And men of faith gathered around him to explain with sophist logic why he sinned so his god has punished him. And his ordeal persisted and got worse. And he spoke up to his god and challanged. And his god got up and grandstanded nonsense and then released him from his torment. The man learned a valuable lesson, believe not the words of experts on piousness, and external divinities are always inadequate to explain and quasibenevolent, they never offer what you think. The best you can hope for is to find divinity within. I thinks thats the point about religion where you jump of the orthoreligion wagon.
"I know nothing about chaos magic other than what you describe, it sounds to me like people searching for a cleaner path among predetermined paths set forth by generations of beliefs." You were as correct in the first 6 words as were wrong in the last half of them😉
@@joshuachristofferson9227 Its rather true, the more cultic people make a thing the less I understand it. Anti-Nomian i found funny because being antinomian is a kind of piety. If you really are against piousness theb restrict this too parctices that divine people into groups. What if some cukture has a rule that you should not pee on the floor of a house, then do you pee on the floor of the house?
i gave up on chaso magic when i realised Austin Osman Spare couldn't even sigilise a lover for himself, and had to resort to visiting prostitutes for sex. Some magician he was. ha!
👏👏👏👏👏 Yes, madam! Congratulations once again, Dr. Puca! Super exciting clips and photos! Thanks for sharing!🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘😃 Thank you specially for this conference, which is very educational, inspiring and enlightening! Angela's Symposium is one of my favorite academic yt channels! I wish you success in all your projects! See you next time! 😃👏
I'm new to the idea of chaos magick. But it's intriguing. It sounds like what it's lacking is a context-free language to describe the principles of the system independent of individual use. Has anyone tried to approach this problem using category theory? It seems like a potentially useful way to clarify the nature of what chaos magick appears to be doing. It seems reasonable that a sigil magick spell is based on a correspondence (functor) between the sigil (diagram) and the desired manifestation (image of the diagram in some category or "context"). So it sounds like the magick is based on embedding that correspondence into the subconscious and forgetting the implementation of the embedding. Maybe I'm misunderstanding and/or oversimplifying? Just some thoughts.... ✌️🫶🦐
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Super, thank you
Seems I've been practicing a very unfocused version of chaos magic my entire life. Fascinating!
We all have. That’s why the collective manifestation is so chaotic.
5 minutes in and I've learned more than in all the reading generated thus far. No spoilers for me...just makes the rest of the research smooth sailing. Thank you Dr Puca! Edit side note: CAOS in other words be original don't "plagiaris" stop "lip siyncing" and write your own music. In case your hungry "make your own cusine" "clean your own kitchen"
@@Eet_Mia Play-Doh 🙂👍
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You speak with such sympathy and understanding and pass it along effectively. This form of practice feels healthy, creative and good natured. Much pinging / resonances with Jung’s active imagination project. Hugely relevant topic, foundational.
That was your best lecture yet Dr Puca, the way you used philosophers like Kant to illuminate the ideas and practices that developed into Chaos Magick was very effective. Thanks.
Wow, thank you!
Great lecture in introduction to Chaos Magick! Lots of things summerized in such a short time is no easy fit
Glad you think so!
I fell so grapeful. Many concepts came to light.
Fascinating video. I will end up watching this more than one time. Thank you Angela, quality is great as usual.
Wonderful!
@@drangelapucaGrazie Dr. Angela Puca for a refresher and an encouragement to delve deeper into chaos magick. The way you explain keeps many of us truly focused.The word antinomianism is a word I truly needed. Pleased with the word Kia. Not just a word to yell in karate or a name of a car.
I am so grateful for having found your channel . You are such an authentic, intelligent and inspirational educator .🖤
angela you are so awsesome & such an inspiration. a trad-goth occultist queen 👑
Don't forget the influence of Robert Anton Wilson & Robert Shea with their trilogy "Illuminatus", which included the utterance "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted", & the Philosophy of Discordism. Also Michael Moorcock's fantasy stories including "The King of Swords" where the magician Kwll gets rid of not only the Lords of Chaos but the Lords of Order as well.
I'm not sure that the use of the definitive article as with "THE PHILOSOPHY of Chaos Magic/k" is appropriate as Chaos Magicians tend to be Anarchistic & individual as is their philosophies.
To try to reconnect with the Kia is like a dog trying to be one with itself by catching its tail, it reaffirms the belief of disconnection, which isn't gnosis.
"Chaos Magic/k would say...", personification much?
Hail Eris!
That festival looks like such fun!
This is great! The Cerberusian School of Cynicism thanks you for your service! 🐶🐶🐶
I always come back to your videos because all the information you share is so useful! Thanks again and thanks again!❤
So nice of you
Brilliant lecture, bravo! I've recently finished reading a book about Pete Carroll called "Interview with a Wizard". Fascinating read, it reveals a lot about his life, his philosophy, his magick and many other subjects. Listening to your lecture I was reminded of a couple of chaotes I used to know who experimented with radionic devices for magical purposes. One purchased a multi thousand dollar device from Germany with orgone generators, amplifiers, power electronics, the lot. The other used just a empty reinforced-carton box with just some external buttons and switches, just for the sleight of mind. You'd be really surprised if you knew who had more successes in magick.
Flawlessly done! I can't think of a more succinct, comprehensive, exemplary job that really explains the PoV of the many usually misunderstood aspects of everything from Left Hand Practices to how to create your own Sigil RITE NOW! Every sentence has had at least Chapters if not full Books written about elsewhere, & a better job couldn't be done in 40ish minutes by anyone else. Bravo!
Glad it was helpful!
@@drangelapuca Not for me, but it will be helpful for everyone who comes here wanting to know more about Chaos Magick, sorting Signal from Noise. As a Chaote since the 90's, I highly approve 😉
Thank you for mentioning Buffy and/or Dark Willow as a source of inspiration! I couldn't agree more. \m/
I'm currently enjoying invoking Spider-Man - after finally watching the last movie - as I both Play the Sony Video Game, & DODGE! the Drama coming my way IRL lol 😉
Kabbalah goes much, much deeper, the high work of the soul.....it was from the study of Kabbalah that Aleister Crowley got most of his deepest insights and ideas. He said it was invaluable and is indeed a lifetime's study....or even lifetimes.... 😊
So much good information in this! A huge congratulations to you.
Thanks so much!
Great Lecture! Very interesting. Shocked that ppl would try to prevent or shame the attendees.
Can you share where you learned the festival had hecklers? I'm curious but can't find any information.
beginning of video, the drummers are there to keep away right-wing protesters or, unless I misunderstood.@@uglyweirdo1389
this was a wonderful surprise. I love learning about chaos magik.
I will be sure to share this around. An amazing lecture.
Please do!
Great presentation.
Thank you kindly!
This is positively fantastic. Thank you for the education once again, Dr. Puca. 👏
So nice of you
Thank You Dr. Puca
I haven't listened to this yet, but love the amount of time you're spending with Chaos Magick at the moment. Would have loved to see you speak while you were in the UK but I'm sure there will be another time. Greetings from Bristol.
Belief is obviously a functional component of the system of reality and I've started using AI to academic write papers about this.
AI is going to do so much more to this space than people are expecting or comfortable with.
What a great listen, impressive work.
Thanks for listening
Inspiring and adorable. The nicest example of an internet era understanding of Austin Osman Spare projected onto the past that I have had the good fortune to listen to.
The power of KIA? This is the most creative car ad I've seen!
The car brand actually took the name from the concept of soul with this name; so yeah, their car named "Kia Soul" is like Dodge doing a car named "Dodge Evade" (which doesn't exist, as it is a bit silly)
Thank you dr. Puca,, excellent prresentation.
So nice of you
After studying so many of your short form videos - listening to lecture longform about that some content to a different audience really helps me draw some new understandings of the landscape were working with. Thank you!
Great to hear!
Very well done! Thanks for posting this, and thank you to Witchfest for making it possible that you could give this presentation!
It looks like it was tons of fun, and I am envious (but in a positive way!) that you were able to go to this and have such a great time!
Thank you kindly!
That was brilliant. Very informative thanks..
Glad it was helpful!
“I am the way and the truth and the life."
Great job as always Angela!
Great talk, congratulations and thank you for sharing!!!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Talk the talk
Ha, I saw the Pentacle Drummers at Beltane in Glastonbury this year. A lot of energy!
Great lecture. I came back a second time, in the meantime did a lot or reading into the topic.
Glad it was helpful!
Super fun lecture. I still hope to see you and Grant Morrison interact. I'm sure it would be a grand time.
I hope so too!
this was amazing! ty!
Love it! Very useful and interesting!
Glad you think so!
Excellent work. You seem more comfortable on stage than ever. I can't help but wonder if "Kia" is related to concept of "Ki"/"Chi" as a fundamental "life-force" found in many Eastern Traditions? Thanks for posting the vid. Cheers!
Ki/Chi. The most basic meaning of Chi, at least as far as I've been able to trace it, is "pole" *as in a ridge pole that separates a roof into a light and shade side). The "yin/yang" symbol is called Tai Chi (Supreme ultimate Chi(. Closer to the idea of chaos is Wu Chi. We is usually translated as "no" or "not", NOT Chi. Chi implies polarization, right/left, this/that, light/dark yin/yang. Wu Chi is almost unimaginable, unconceptualizable. So Wu Chi would look more like Kia while Tai Chi (or any "lesser" Chi would look more like Zos. At least this is how I read it from years spent in Taoist texts and the I Ching.
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@@joshuachristofferson9227 so they got it from the car company, then?
@@KarlKarsnark Yes. AO Spare got it a century ago from a Korean Car Company.
Hi Dr Puca! I'm so glad I've found your channel, this lecture was particularly great, you have a beautiful way of explaining such profound concepts. I really appreciated the way in which you connected the philosophy of Kant and Nietzsche with the chaos magick. After many years of search I think I've finally found a path that condenses everything I've been thinking and studying. Thank you so much for your invaluable work!! I send you a big hug from Argentina 🤗✨
There was a creepy car salesman in my old neighborhood who would always say "I wanna see ya... In a KIA,"
Great lecture with well presented information. Thank you.
You are welcome!
Brilliant 👍
Just given the image you used in the thumbnail and what you called this video, I HAVE to make a WH40k reference. I can’t resist!
THE RUINOUS FORCES OFF CHAOS HAVE INFECTED THIS PLANET! PREPARE THE EXTERMINATUS PROTOCOL! FOR THE EMPEROR!
just discovered you
amazing work
Thanks!
Great presentation
yesterday i dreamed of myself holding a mummy and crying, saying "please don't die again", and as i was criyng the mummy looked more and more fresh, almost coming back to life. in the morning, this video popped out on youtube.
i am now feeling a deep regret for giving up on magic and spirituality for so many years, totally absorbed by the everyday life. i think i should go back to when i was younger and full of hope and energy, and try to bring back some pieces of that version of me
Channeling Buffy is a brilliant idea. Ive found that even "invented" deities leave either a void (in chaos magick, a place for KIA to flow) or an invitation (in the mystic sense, Buffy would certainly get the attention of Arftemis, Diana, etc...) it's led to some very unique and incomprehensibly weird experiences but thats what I signed up for, thanks as always for your insight!
I make regular use of the Mortal Kombat pantheon and twice yearly bind a simulacra of Kirby to myself.
Get weird!
@@uglyweirdo1389 That makes sense, Kirby's a powerful choice!
I'm currently enjoying invoking Spider-Man - after finally watching the last movie - as I both Play the Sony Video Game, & DODGE! the Drama coming my way IRL lol 😉
@@joshuachristofferson9227 Careful. Spiderman is more than pajamas and one liners.
@@joshuachristofferson9227 I haven't really invoked spider-man but one of my partners is a spider, man. I have things to consider.
Solid!
Very nice
Thanks
I am so excited to listen to your symposium. I was wondering whether you would consider speaking about metaphysics. I do believe this is a topic most interesting and even if mentions small in quantity it would be very entertaining. Thank You so much for your excellent lectures.💘
I have always been very fascinated by Chaos Magick. I think it's probably the most seminal modern development in recent esoteric history. And also it seems tailor made for isolationists like myself who came stomach joining hierarchical organizations with vague (and costly) benefits.
This talk was one of the best I've heard on the subject. Both informative and succinct.
I do wonder that you mentioned the books Liber Null and Psychonaut in the talk but don't list them in the references. Did you access these books or were they simply not useful enough?
Also, as a note to others, in perusing the transcript I definitely noticed that the transcript includes info that isn't actually in the speech itself. Especially in the section discussing gnosis. Definitely worth it for people to look at the transcript.
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Beautiful.
Damn near - if not - perfect.
Great listen.
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Not too far from the formula my Christian witch Auntie shared with me. (She wouldn’t have called herself a witch, but she was definitely sharing magic spells).
She told me to draw what I wanted my future to be, put it someplace I would see at least three times a day, and say a certain ‘prayer’ three times every time I stared at the picture.
This is much more redacted, as you say, trimmed down to only what is necessary, but it feels very close. I like the concept of the Kia, too. The world is full of unlimited potential energy. We only have to draw it in, focus it. I will go to the library and find Austin Osman Spare’s books.
Very true, i have Chaos magic, when something has to to happen.
The only thing i need is very determent, i do all good, but when something has to change to keep te Balance, i go straight to the source in a short time i touch the sourc with the thing that has to happen, all good vibes and pure open hearted and manifest it, is goes normally, i never read a book about it.
I dont certainly know if you can Learn that .
I was born with it , by the almighty where i got this gift.
I dont need any onees thank, but i am helping the world ,Universe, to keep the balance and Protect The Almighty.
Chaos magic can be the Strongest magic.
and yes i was born left handed,
mostly i use my left hand with a movement and it's done.
The problems I have with discussing your personal beliefs are: 1, personal means for you only, 2) your great results are for you, 3) never share your craft, only with your hiers.
nothing is true, all is permitted
What is, is; the idea that you can't seperate anything from existence. The claiming of your own authority within that Existence; the acceptance of external influence, though everything is from a common source. I think the Idea is you do not proclaim what you don't know, but your not going to concede to another authority aside from respect to that common existence(source). I am not well read on Chaos Magic, so this is more of a question? I've been practicing my whole Life.
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Great lecture! Question. Do you think there are strong similarities between the Kia of Chaos Magic and the "Astral light" in reference to Baphomet from the writings of Eliphas Levi? I also want to note that Chaos practitioners hold Baphomet in high regard. What do you think?
I remember one hallmark was to take tantric left hand path techniques out of context (under the guise of removing the layers of superstition and religiosity). For example, you would spend a specified amount of time (week, month, etc) only referring to yourself in the 3rd person. In taking these techniques out of context, as practitioners we had hubris. The broad danger is that it's easy to fool ourselves, precious egotism and so on. Hasta la vista
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Thanks for your insight Dr Puca, by the way do you know the work of american visionary artist Paul Laffoley? Greetings from Mexico
I respect the amount of knowlege you have.... i have been practicing some magic, but i have only destroyed my life so far... i realy need some answers. Can i write an email to you?
I hope you can find some relief. Best wishes, whoever you are.
Great , you very attuined, I chaos mage and getting old, maybe we could talk
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oh wait, wrong chaos magic? oh okie....
My understanding of the word "magick" refers to the worship of body fluids found within Thelema and body parts talismanically it's weird for me personally to see the word outside of this context nowadays.
13:30 it seems like vageta moving on to yet another new thing and being cocky somewhat having a lasting conservative ring abled for furthering by the alignments made of the sourcely to the task, or like Goku being more playful and invoking a sentimental enchantment into the auxiliary source while looking like a syllogistic enthememe but actually being a syllogism after sending what is more held by him for a time before maybe ‘throwing his aura’ like ashtakanma siddhi explained well for you by Nithyananda; vageta is definitely the syllogismistic enthememe while knowing that at the actual time of action is able to afford then being a syllogism that is safe and non wasteful, yummy (do these correspondences resonate? 😂.
Or is evoking not a syllogism?
That specific work might overall look chaotic.
Maybe vageta does more to it and goku does more to make it do it from inside it.
Goku is the wizard that expands the thing to make it collapse propelling it into perfection development, and vageta is the sorcerer who uses the ratios from the outside to retune the inside.
Hello can you advice some literature about Chaos Magick?
What do Practitioners of Chaos Magick think of Hegel!?
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I love chaos magic. I would like to hear your thoughts on existentialism.
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I thought their was a belief in Chaos Magic that there is no real truth, that they emphasize 'belief' to change their reality, whatever they want to believe, in a way which is similar to solipsism or relativism, as opposed to acknowledging there is objective truth. And I certainly believe truth is objective and knowable, so not sure I agree with Spare's religious beliefs here if that is actually what he believed (or maybe it was his followers who later emphasized that aspect of it? Maybe wikipedia is wrong? Ha I wouldn't be surprised) Very interesting nonetheless
Is chaos magick your favorate?
Very helpful in understanding some very abstract ideas. I understand the psychological understanding model in the occult, ( not a practitioner..only an artist) it’s helpful for me as an artist, not sure in ways how different magician are from artists….? There is a lot of crossover..
but I wonder If it is limited at times? Not a scholar, so I ask this with humility.. I have a friend and practicing magician/occultist.. and he has a great saying, “it’s Jungian until it isn’t..” at what point does a thing become limited and needs to change ? Like language or logic has its limit, then we go full subconscious where the language of that realm is symbol, allegory, apology.. etc.. hopefully I am making sense…? This is why I paint… I am better with images..
but a very simple example is, it’s jungian until the practitioner , in the circle sees a entity… I know you address this briefly, but could you expound on this concept for a feeble mind😂😂😂🙏…?
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I know nothing about chaos magic other than what you describe, it sounds to me like people searching for a cleaner path among predetermined paths set forth by generations of beliefs.
But I will comment on the sort of basis for anti-nomian thought within logical thought.
You have cult A, they have piety rules that value upward us behaviors and value downward them behaviors.
You have cult B and their rules.
You have cult C and their rules.
And when you look at these cults they tend to have power figures who determine whether the rules are being followed
And when you examine the history of the cult it looks likes the rules evolved to empower select groups at the expense of other groups. For example you bring you first fruits to the temple, you offer your first born to sacrifice or pay a priest.
And so if you see these other cults as following something and following away from something, the their piousness is also a falling away. And so piety rules in themselves dont have any value out side the cult, and if you leave the cult they shouldn't have value to the self. In regard to the divine, again divinity is a human projection, so what piety rules should one project within the self to the self.
And so to say rules have no value, thats not the case, rules can have value, but they dont have value just because a cleric or cultic text tries to project value.
Lets take the Thou shall not kill, its one of the 613 laws of Moses, and the followers of moses seem to be doing a good job at the moment of divinating justification to kill, just as "Moses" decided it was a good idea to kill the midianites. Whereas the question is asked weren't the midianites his belived wife and family? What is the function of a rule if a priest can come up with reasons to break the rule? If you believe murder is bad, then thats how you should live, you dont need a rule, just live you internal mores.
The second issue here is reality. We live between two definitions of reality and truth, that which we percieve and physical circumstances which at some level devolve into fuzziness.
And so reality is never well defined. In science what is true, scientist almist use the word. The reason is this, when you work at the bench, results are never unique and punctate. The closest you can get to the truth most times is to have several independent perspectives that tell you were truth isnt. For example the wavefunction of an electron shot through a double slit can land practically land anywhere in the universe, the nodes of probability extend away from the center each subsequently lower probability, vanishingly low at extreme distances. This is the truth, we don't know, no matter how precise the equipment were the electron will register.
And so we get back to functional realities and function truths. When you breath your last breath your dead. When the sun comes over the horizon you feel heat. If a villian fires a high power rifle at a person, and the person dies, he is a murderer. These are realities we create to abstractly understand and simplfy the world. But reality has been misused. Lets take a look at 2 cor 12, whether in the body or out, that is to say Paul is equating his experience with actually traveling outside his body and seeing something he thinks, at some level is real. He then used that reality to do certain things that by an outsider observer would seem untrue, many died thinking they would be drawn up to the kingdom of heaven coming on Earth, it did not happen.
We have to question the realism others present, because we dont know how they are filtering what they percieved. Most westerners believe that Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected, but the texts they use seem to be saying this well after the early witnesses claimed they had visions, not actually observing a dead body rise. And so these belief based creeds have to be interoggated.
There is one mythical story, a man, a pious man, the world turned against him. And men of faith gathered around him to explain with sophist logic why he sinned so his god has punished him. And his ordeal persisted and got worse. And he spoke up to his god and challanged. And his god got up and grandstanded nonsense and then released him from his torment. The man learned a valuable lesson, believe not the words of experts on piousness, and external divinities are always inadequate to explain and quasibenevolent, they never offer what you think. The best you can hope for is to find divinity within. I thinks thats the point about religion where you jump of the orthoreligion wagon.
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"I know nothing about chaos magic other than what you describe, it sounds to me like people searching for a cleaner path among predetermined paths set forth by generations of beliefs."
You were as correct in the first 6 words as were wrong in the last half of them😉
@@joshuachristofferson9227 Its rather true, the more cultic people make a thing the less I understand it.
Anti-Nomian i found funny because being antinomian is a kind of piety. If you really are against piousness theb restrict this too parctices that divine people into groups. What if some cukture has a rule that you should not pee on the floor of a house, then do you pee on the floor of the house?
Wow another egotistical materialistic to dictate to us what we should believe, totally not a cult lol
i gave up on chaso magic when i realised Austin Osman Spare couldn't even sigilise a lover for himself, and had to resort to visiting prostitutes for sex. Some magician he was. ha!
Looks like he managed to get a lover in way of prostitution.
Do you really think showing your fandom for an openly transphobic author (who openly funds antitrans organizations) is a good way to start a video?
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Thank you so much!!
I'm new to the idea of chaos magick. But it's intriguing.
It sounds like what it's lacking is a context-free language to describe the principles of the system independent of individual use.
Has anyone tried to approach this problem using category theory? It seems like a potentially useful way to clarify the nature of what chaos magick appears to be doing.
It seems reasonable that a sigil magick spell is based on a correspondence (functor) between the sigil (diagram) and the desired manifestation (image of the diagram in some category or "context"). So it sounds like the magick is based on embedding that correspondence into the subconscious and forgetting the implementation of the embedding.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding and/or oversimplifying? Just some thoughts....
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Sounds like you've made a decent start of things. I advise you consider for future exploration adding more fun, though.
@@uglyweirdo1389 it's a discussion I'd love to have with anyone that's interested 🤘
@@iMystic418 Discord coven? My boss Witches have all progressed to their next thing and I'm always down to let a total stranger into my life!
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@@uglyweirdo1389 I'm not ready to start a discord server on my own ATM. But I'd gladly join one to discuss.
@@iMystic418 so it shall be