The device is solid and built well. Fun to use and game on. The only question really is will the interest from consumers be there. Especially with competition from the likes of Valve, Logitech and others. While only time will tell. I do believe the handheld pc / device market is set to explode and I am here for it. Having everything myself from the Switch Oled to the Steam Deck, G Cloud and Razer edge I truly believe theres a different market and use case for each device.
I personally prefer my TV / laptop for gaming, although there is a market for mobile gaming, is it worth $399? Or $599 for the 5G version.. not sure especially with all of the other options currently available..
I owned the first kishi the one with no back support so it always disconnected. I got the backbone for 100 bucks and its changed mobile gaming for me. This looks exactly like it without the tablet
Well, folks...Gamers... Indeed chose: RaZeR Edge Tablet only / Ditched the Kishi V2 pro... 144hz 6.8 " Amoled Screen / Snapdragon G3x gen 1 / Verizon 5G Version / 8gb ram / 128gb internal storage + 512gb Samsung Evo MicroSD-Card Loaded... + or Paired with BsP D8 Bluetooth Controller ( Sky Black or Star Space White Edition) Or GameSir X-4 Aileron Bluetooth Controller Indeed my final say is: It's either... There should have been more ram / internal storage options... 12 or 16gb ram with 512gb or 1tb internal storage... Or / If RaZeR Edge 2 is somehow in the pipeline... Because this Android Gaming Handheld Remixed quite a "Performer"... 🙃🫠🤣🧐🤓🥸🤯 A-O2 Pro Black Edition owner... Since Dec.3rd.2023... Got that package unpacked... and the fun never end...
Any chance you can share that default wallpaper as shown on the Edge? I've seen some that are close, but not 100% and its not yet posted on Razers site.
I didnt like this upon release but i dont use my tablet all that much but like having it for it not needing to be tied to my phone and its weak on the cloud sometimes esp with bluetooth. This would be a little upgrade as i love geforce on my phone but need my phone to be my phone the older i get
Backbone One controller $99 + Flagship used phone in excellent condition ($250 and up on Amazon Renewed) is pretty close to the same experience if you don't happen to have a flagship on hand.
Yea I have tue backbone as well. While I dont like to tie up my phone gaming ive used it on some of my older phones and its worked great. Sooo many awesome options these days to get into some games. Coming from an 80’s gamer lol this shyt is so cool to me these days.
@@GameTechPlanet 80s gamer here too! I grew up in the old arcades, loved it. That was one reason of buying a second hand phone, so my main device was not tied up. Last thing I want are a ton of notifications interrupting game play. Using S21+ (No sim) and BB1, I may end up getting a sim for it but right now just using WiFi, although I could enable Mobile hotspot on main device when traveling . So far so good, clouding gaming, remote play, and emulation all working fantastic.. Kudos on your well presented video 👍
Tell me where you can get a brand new Snapdragon 888 plus gaming phone with active cooling + Razer kishi v2 pro for $399? Oh wait, you cant. And no a used flagship without active cooling will not get you the same experience (it will throttle to all heck once its gets toasty). I wanted a dedicated PS2 machine and my edge does that excellently, and for that its the current best value in the android space.
Emulation is something I have been having the most fun with on the edge. Theres cheaper emulation only machines out there for sure. But all around the edge is well built, powerful and capable of doing what it’s targeted at.
@@ultimategohan1551 No issues with emulation, remote play, cloud gaming, installed games from Play Store on my S21+. Granted my longest game run was about an hour. I don't plan game on this for 8hours, for that I have XBSX and gaming laptop.
I wish the screen was bigger, res at 1440p with 120hz refresh. At this price point is what I would expect for a cloud gaming device. Or Windows hand held pc with this price point. The deck is just a better device tbh.
Yea they made returns and cancellations easy for it. I got an email about the correction before my device shipped. Cant say if it was deliberate or a mistake but least we have the info and those who wish to can return. Consumer wins and thats all i care about. Not having any issue with the 6gb so far myself but we shall see over time
Not this model. Didnt want to open a verizon account and have the monthly bill. I have tested it alot tethered to my phones hotspot while traveling and its been great.
Why bother with this. It's basicly a phone that can't make calls with a kishi attached. They should have made a dedicated handheld which this honestly isn't.
It's much more versatile as a device. You can use it for gaming or just as a tablet and pair the kishi with your phone. It just opens up all different options if you like me and you don't want a huge phone or/and you prefer a separate gaming device.
Yea hard to get this down to “ gcloud “ pricing with the newer tech but since steam decks arrival the 399.99 price of devices has become an interesting topic.
I've been deciding between this and the steam deck and decided to go for the razer instead. I feel like I wouldn't be using the steam deck as much because it'll be competing with my actual pc. All the games the steam deck will run my pc will run way better. I don't think I'd be able to enjoy natively playing games on the steam deck at 720 60 fps. Where with the razer edge it would be more of a synergistic experience since you can now use your pc to stream games to the edge. Very impressed with the display specs as well. It might be 1080 but on a 6 inch OLED screen and 144hz it'll still look amazing. As for being able to do this all on my phone yes my Samsung Galaxy 22 Ultra will probably be comparable but I want to keep my phone separate and not be cluttered by apps and games. Having a standalone device like this that can be an extension of my pc with the benefit of other game streaming services I use makes it a very attractive device to own.
@@sawyerseth9832 it's been great I use it to stream my pc when I'm laying in bed. I've been using it for emulation as well. I've even taken it on a trip and used the 5g to stream my pc. I did have an issue with the right trigger getting too loose so I opened it and fixed the spring inside. The controller will once in awhile not get recognized when you're streaming but it's easily fixed by disconnecting the controller and connecting it again. Other than a few things it's been great!
agreed! I have found 16:10 to be the best aspect ratio. because it makes your screen seem larger due to the increased vertical space. It is also a great middle ground for 4:3 aspect ratio. I scale most consoles to 3:2 and it fills up the screen pleasantly. Yet, I do not miss the increased with of 16:9.
The ratio and rounded screen corners were instantly a turn off for me as well. After a few days I actually gree to love it for certain things. But I agree something like 16:9 a 16:10 is much nicer overall.
Glad i dont follow that rule lol. I would have missed out on the steam deck and many ither great gen 1 products. But i know what your saying. Ur always a tester on gen 1 alot of the time lol
Lol cloud gaming and console remote streaming have come a long way. Being a Dad and busy business person, handheld gaming and cloud have basically saved gaming for me. I used to be always in my tv or gaming pc but as i got older and busier that had to change lol. But Local gaming still rules even tho cloud is growing quickly
Steam Deck is my number one man. Love it. But I also am tied into the cloud gaming crowd as well and while I love the deck some of these other devices do cloud and console streaming better and easier than deck. And for some of those people deck may not be the ultimate answer yet. For me I love everything on the steam deck amd all the tinkering. But I recognize theres a whole market out there for other devices that are doing things differently. The RIP OFF part will be for each consumer to decide lol.
@@GameTechPlanet I'd say the logitech g cloud would honestly be better for exclusive cloud gaming than the edge, especially after razers bait-and-switch.
@@adriandoesstuffandthings I have both I still pick the Razer Edge way over the Logitech g cloud the wi-fi 6e helps a lot as well love the screen on the Edge and its better and cloud gaming as well I will take 144fps over 60fps any day of the week with GFN
Lol. I thought the review focused on the Edge very well without much comparison. I have a video coming talking about the Deck, Edge & G Cloud as they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I truly believe theres room and market for it all. While being a pc gamer the Deck is my favorite handheld i also just love gaming especially portable as ive gotten older. So I just get it all lol. Appreciate you being here and commenting.
![NISAMANEE - TADA (ท้าดา) [ OFFICIAL MV ]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/hcQHEPMmJpU/mqdefault.jpg)
The device is solid and built well. Fun to use and game on. The only question really is will the interest from consumers be there. Especially with competition from the likes of Valve, Logitech and others. While only time will tell. I do believe the handheld pc / device market is set to explode and I am here for it. Having everything myself from the Switch Oled to the Steam Deck, G Cloud and Razer edge I truly believe theres a different market and use case for each device.
I personally prefer my TV / laptop for gaming, although there is a market for mobile gaming, is it worth $399? Or $599 for the 5G version.. not sure especially with all of the other options currently available..
@@flanagansghost953 💯
If the aspect ratio was 16:9 - this device would be perfect - it’s a beast in such a small form factor!
Yea I agree the aspect ratio will turn alot of people off.
Thanks for such an in depth review! Looking forward to trying this out. 120 FPS Cyberpunk 2077 in your hands is pretty amazing.
I owned the first kishi the one with no back support so it always disconnected. I got the backbone for 100 bucks and its changed mobile gaming for me. This looks exactly like it without the tablet
Yea this does feel alot like using my backbone. Especially the thumbs
Well, folks...Gamers...
Indeed chose:
RaZeR Edge Tablet only / Ditched the Kishi V2 pro...
144hz 6.8 " Amoled Screen / Snapdragon G3x gen 1 / Verizon 5G Version / 8gb ram / 128gb internal storage + 512gb Samsung Evo MicroSD-Card Loaded...
+ or Paired with
BsP D8 Bluetooth Controller ( Sky Black or Star Space White Edition)
Or
GameSir X-4 Aileron Bluetooth Controller
Indeed my final say is:
It's either...
There should have been more ram / internal storage options... 12 or 16gb ram with 512gb or 1tb internal storage...
Or / If
RaZeR Edge 2 is somehow in the pipeline...
Because this Android Gaming Handheld Remixed quite a "Performer"...
🙃🫠🤣🧐🤓🥸🤯
A-O2 Pro Black Edition owner... Since Dec.3rd.2023... Got that package unpacked... and the fun never end...
I'm watching this review on the razer edge .
Any chance you can share that default wallpaper as shown on the Edge? I've seen some that are close, but not 100% and its not yet posted on Razers site.
Is the d-pad good? It's bad on the Logitech G Cloud.
Well lol. I actually prefer the gcloud dpad. Not for any reason other than in the edge the dpad is super loud and clicky. Not what i prefer on a dpad.
Can they fix the aspect ratio in a firmware update?
I didnt like this upon release but i dont use my tablet all that much but like having it for it not needing to be tied to my phone and its weak on the cloud sometimes esp with bluetooth. This would be a little upgrade as i love geforce on my phone but need my phone to be my phone the older i get
Well said man. When i was younger gaming in my phone wasnt to bad. These days i rly cant tie it up or use up the battery
should i get this or retroid pocket 4 pro thats 8gb ram
Backbone One controller $99 + Flagship used phone in excellent condition ($250 and up on Amazon Renewed) is pretty close to the same experience if you don't happen to have a flagship on hand.
Yea I have tue backbone as well. While I dont like to tie up my phone gaming ive used it on some of my older phones and its worked great. Sooo many awesome options these days to get into some games. Coming from an 80’s gamer lol this shyt is so cool to me these days.
@@GameTechPlanet 80s gamer here too! I grew up in the old arcades, loved it. That was one reason of buying a second hand phone, so my main device was not tied up. Last thing I want are a ton of notifications interrupting game play. Using S21+ (No sim) and BB1, I may end up getting a sim for it but right now just using WiFi, although I could enable Mobile hotspot on main device when traveling .
So far so good, clouding gaming, remote play, and emulation all working fantastic.. Kudos on your well presented video 👍
Tell me where you can get a brand new Snapdragon 888 plus gaming phone with active cooling + Razer kishi v2 pro for $399? Oh wait, you cant. And no a used flagship without active cooling will not get you the same experience (it will throttle to all heck once its gets toasty). I wanted a dedicated PS2 machine and my edge does that excellently, and for that its the current best value in the android space.
Emulation is something I have been having the most fun with on the edge. Theres cheaper emulation only machines out there for sure. But all around the edge is well built, powerful and capable of doing what it’s targeted at.
@@ultimategohan1551 No issues with emulation, remote play, cloud gaming, installed games from Play Store on my S21+. Granted my longest game run was about an hour. I don't plan game on this for 8hours, for that I have XBSX and gaming laptop.
72 FPS in fortnite seems like double-buffered v-sync. Your screen was set to 144 Hz so if it can't hit that, it will run at half fps
Appreciate it. I went thru every setting and tried everything and could never get above 73 fps. Still ran great but runs better at 120fps from GFN
I wish the screen was bigger, res at 1440p with 120hz refresh. At this price point is what I would expect for a cloud gaming device.
Or
Windows hand held pc with this price point. The deck is just a better device tbh.
is fortnite running through epic android app?
does the razer edge work as a normal tablet
Yea. Take off controller and your good to go
I want this for GeForce now and Fortnite
can you charge this while playing?
saw it thanx
👍
They lied about the ram on the wifi model. Canceled and returned after that
Yea they made returns and cancellations easy for it. I got an email about the correction before my device shipped. Cant say if it was deliberate or a mistake but least we have the info and those who wish to can return. Consumer wins and thats all i care about. Not having any issue with the 6gb so far myself but we shall see over time
@@GameTechPlanet yeah but it was posted months prior to this. Bait and switch last second
5G ultra wideband?
Not this model. Didnt want to open a verizon account and have the monthly bill. I have tested it alot tethered to my phones hotspot while traveling and its been great.
@@GameTechPlanet oh so they do have a 5g model?
For the price you can get the $399 steam deck and run pc games and a lot more.
The one with the rubbish 60hz LCD screen and the 256gb. It's ok I will get the Razer is much more versatile.
@@yanni2737 No it's not lol
@@iomis2001 sorry dude 399 for an 60hz LCD? 😂😂😂😂
Why bother with this. It's basicly a phone that can't make calls with a kishi attached. They should have made a dedicated handheld which this honestly isn't.
Facts. If it was also a phone this would be a cool device... Sadly it's not
It's much more versatile as a device. You can use it for gaming or just as a tablet and pair the kishi with your phone. It just opens up all different options if you like me and you don't want a huge phone or/and you prefer a separate gaming device.
I need something to run wild rift on this no one does it.
if it cost 299.99 this could be a interesting piece of technology
Yea hard to get this down to “ gcloud “ pricing with the newer tech but since steam decks arrival the 399.99 price of devices has become an interesting topic.
I've been deciding between this and the steam deck and decided to go for the razer instead. I feel like I wouldn't be using the steam deck as much because it'll be competing with my actual pc. All the games the steam deck will run my pc will run way better. I don't think I'd be able to enjoy natively playing games on the steam deck at 720 60 fps. Where with the razer edge it would be more of a synergistic experience since you can now use your pc to stream games to the edge. Very impressed with the display specs as well. It might be 1080 but on a 6 inch OLED screen and 144hz it'll still look amazing. As for being able to do this all on my phone yes my Samsung Galaxy 22 Ultra will probably be comparable but I want to keep my phone separate and not be cluttered by apps and games. Having a standalone device like this that can be an extension of my pc with the benefit of other game streaming services I use makes it a very attractive device to own.
Would love to hear about how you like it after a month!
@@sawyerseth9832 it's been great I use it to stream my pc when I'm laying in bed. I've been using it for emulation as well. I've even taken it on a trip and used the 5g to stream my pc. I did have an issue with the right trigger getting too loose so I opened it and fixed the spring inside. The controller will once in awhile not get recognized when you're streaming but it's easily fixed by disconnecting the controller and connecting it again. Other than a few things it's been great!
the screen ratio is immediately a no
agreed! I have found 16:10 to be the best aspect ratio. because it makes your screen seem larger due to the increased vertical space. It is also a great middle ground for 4:3 aspect ratio. I scale most consoles to 3:2 and it fills up the screen pleasantly. Yet, I do not miss the increased with of 16:9.
The ratio and rounded screen corners were instantly a turn off for me as well. After a few days I actually gree to love it for certain things. But I agree something like 16:9 a 16:10 is much nicer overall.
Try one in person, it really disappears once you are playing. I bought mine and it’s prettt good.
I just wanna play ps2 and under.
This device will do that great but if thats all you wanna do there def cheaper options
hoşuma gitti güzelmiş valla :)
The thumb sticks are absolutely garbage what was razer thinking 🤔 the kishi 1 controller had garbage buttons but the thumb sticks where flawless
Never buy anything Gen 1
Glad i dont follow that rule lol. I would have missed out on the steam deck and many ither great gen 1 products. But i know what your saying. Ur always a tester on gen 1 alot of the time lol
hosetly why are you guys streaming games makes no sence to me lol
Lol cloud gaming and console remote streaming have come a long way. Being a Dad and busy business person, handheld gaming and cloud have basically saved gaming for me. I used to be always in my tv or gaming pc but as i got older and busier that had to change lol. But Local gaming still rules even tho cloud is growing quickly
@@GameTechPlanetyes!
400 BUCKS BUY YOUR SELF A STEAM DECK THIS THING IS A RIP OFF
Steam Deck is my number one man. Love it. But I also am tied into the cloud gaming crowd as well and while I love the deck some of these other devices do cloud and console streaming better and easier than deck. And for some of those people deck may not be the ultimate answer yet. For me I love everything on the steam deck amd all the tinkering. But I recognize theres a whole market out there for other devices that are doing things differently. The RIP OFF part will be for each consumer to decide lol.
THIS WILL FINALLY CRUSH STEAMDECK AND DESTROY STEAM GABE WILL BE BROKE IN A WEEK WHEN THIS COMES OUT
@@GameTechPlanet I'd say the logitech g cloud would honestly be better for exclusive cloud gaming than the edge, especially after razers bait-and-switch.
@@adriandoesstuffandthings ill have a future video on this but YES. For just streaming the G Cloud is the better option
@@adriandoesstuffandthings I have both I still pick the Razer Edge way over the Logitech g cloud the wi-fi 6e helps a lot as well love the screen on the Edge and its better and cloud gaming as well I will take 144fps over 60fps any day of the week with GFN
You reviewers need to stop entertaining the steam deck fanboys it's destroying your platforms let them comment until they get tired .
Lol. I thought the review focused on the Edge very well without much comparison. I have a video coming talking about the Deck, Edge & G Cloud as they all have their strengths and weaknesses. I truly believe theres room and market for it all. While being a pc gamer the Deck is my favorite handheld i also just love gaming especially portable as ive gotten older. So I just get it all lol. Appreciate you being here and commenting.
It's a No for me.
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Nothing like stealing the design from Backbone! $400 for a phone and controller. Lol
Exactly my thoughts
it sucks. sent mine back.
an over-rated device that some premium phones can do much more, at $400 is ridiculous