This video is tailored toward food plotters in the Midwest, north and northeast. For the southern states I have another video coming later in the week!
@@josephkilmer7440 yes they will work great. I’m planting in western Pa with the new domain oats. My old farm was in central Pa and I’ve planted forage oats there many times. I love oats but they will definitely frost out when we get hard frosts but for that early attraction they are great. Is that the only thing you are planting?
I live in Southwest Wisconsin. We plant our Brassicas the first weekend in August. We plant our Oats, wheat and rye labor day weekend and continue to layer the rye every 4 weeks until mid October.
Weather is important too. It's been dry and hot lately and as I would rather wait till early-mid August, I had almost a week of rain in the forecast starting tonight (4'th week of July) so I disked the buckwheat in and planted brassicas on two plots. Weeds were not an issue due to spring spraying and buckwheat cover crop. I think it will be just fine.
Great advice! I planted brassicas today to catch the rain we are supposed to have this week. It's a week earlier than normal but with a first frost in late September for my area it will work.
Really liked this video. Here in PA, i do my fall plots mid August - early Sept. I never have weeds if already established plot. If in event where super dry, winter rye is my go to cover crop.
I haven't ever had to spray my fall greens plots but I have had to mow just over them when the grass and weeds took off at the time of planting and were going to outcompete the new sprouts. If you mow over the plot within 30 days of planting it will get most of the weeds and the plot will recover really well. Hopefully this will help a few people asking what to spray on them. Don't spray--but MOW--while the plot is still young!!
Great video. I think people just get to anzy to plant. I start in august-sept depending what i plant. I usually use buckwheat as a cover crop and i seed into it roll and spray gly the day i plant and i dont have to many weeds
Yes that way works as well. Timing is everything. Correct people get to excited but it’s also a lot of bad info out there that’s telling these guys to plant
Plan on overseeding brassica midaugust on a field section that is basically.e tn raining again. Not tilling again.the clover half of the field is doing ok.not a deadlot.had to actually mow the clover about 2 weeks ago.its regrowing just fine.weed conttol,ya know? To much wetlands very close.frogs n stuff.very clean water,deer use it as well.😮
Ground preparations should be completed 75 days before 1st frost date. I plant when we have appreciable precipitation in the forecast anytime after that. Worse case scenario you should have everything planted Not Later Than 45 days before 1st frost. Using this plan can also give you a little wiggle room if you have a fall crop failure and a winter rye back up plan is always a good idea. Don't wait to buy your seed....do it now.
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors lol, been planting crops of some kind or another for 50 plus years. Oats, clover, potatoes, winter rye and a few other things along the way. Glad people like you can articulate how the proper steps to farming for deer.
A little off topic, but what does incognito look like when it 1st germs up? I put mine in the ground roughly 3 weeks ago and the rain missed me till 8 days ago I got somthing growing but not sure what it is
Question for you. I just secured a lease in northern Wisconsin. It’s a Christmas tree farm with some wooded sections in it. What would you suggest for a fall food plot?
Well you are getting close to running out of time in that area in a well prepped area I would probably go with a grain based mix. You can do either winter wheat or winter rye seperate or together. Or if you wanted a mix you can try hall pass from domain outdoors
They can be planted early August late July. But won’t amount to anything really. Sure they will eat them down to the ground and be left with nothing leading into fall. They would have to be top dressed with some grains
@@ajbrown3707 hard to answer man I need more info lol. How big of plot? Are you wanting an early season attraction for bow hunting? Or more of a later season attraction? How many deer in the area? Tons of not a bunch?
Great video man! Question, what do you feel is more important: Getting brassicas in the ground in that ideal time when there isnt rain coming for a few days, or waiting, lets say, a week later and planting right before a rain even if it may be considered "late"? Last year, I planted Domain Big Sexy on August 2 and they turned out great. Should I wait a little bit longer (mid-Michigan) if it means guaranteeing a planting right before a rain? Thanks man
@@kdsberman ideally perfect situation would be to plant right before a rain. Most of us can’t do that. If it’s going to be dry then it’s best to water later into August. If it’s dry then as well you could just plant wheat and rye early September as a fail safe
@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors Paul Knox from Iowa you to say that. I like the 2 strip system where part of field is clover chicory and other part is a cearal grain radish red clover mix. Hall pass would be perfect with some come back kid added.
One thing I despise about vids like this is they NEVER discuss the region/climate zones they're in and how that WILL affect crop timing. 🤦♂ Its almost like the deep people making all this food plot vids arent actually ag people...
Want to know what I despise? People that make these types of comments. If you listen to the video I literally tell you when to plant. I don’t care what region you are in unless it’s Deep South that doesn’t get a frost which I have a separate video for! I talk about timing for brassicas and other crops in the video. Rewatch and you’ll see. This also isn’t ag! I’m not talking about corn or beans!
This video is tailored toward food plotters in the Midwest, north and northeast. For the southern states I have another video coming later in the week!
Dave, love the video's. In Northeastern PA, is the new Domain forage oats any good? I know you are a Domain guy, but I trust your opinion. Thanks.
@@josephkilmer7440 yes they will work great. I’m planting in western Pa with the new domain oats. My old farm was in central Pa and I’ve planted forage oats there many times. I love oats but they will definitely frost out when we get hard frosts but for that early attraction they are great. Is that the only thing you are planting?
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors I was going to mix it with Winter rye, and possibly some clover.
@@josephkilmer7440 sounds good
…..waiting impatiently 🤣
I live in Southwest Wisconsin. We plant our Brassicas the first weekend in August. We plant our Oats, wheat and rye labor day weekend and continue to layer the rye every 4 weeks until mid October.
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Weather is important too. It's been dry and hot lately and as I would rather wait till early-mid August, I had almost a week of rain in the forecast starting tonight (4'th week of July) so I disked the buckwheat in and planted brassicas on two plots. Weeds were not an issue due to spring spraying and buckwheat cover crop. I think it will be just fine.
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Great advice! I planted brassicas today to catch the rain we are supposed to have this week. It's a week earlier than normal but with a first frost in late September for my area it will work.
@@Mark-oq5pf absolutely
Your so lucky, I'm kicking my own ass for missing this very desirable rain, I jacked around and didn't have my stuff bought and ready!
Same happened to me finally decided to do one and missed the time to plant
Really liked this video. Here in PA, i do my fall plots mid August - early Sept. I never have weeds if already established plot. If in event where super dry, winter rye is my go to cover crop.
@@DanielSnyder-to4td perfect
I haven't ever had to spray my fall greens plots but I have had to mow just over them when the grass and weeds took off at the time of planting and were going to outcompete the new sprouts. If you mow over the plot within 30 days of planting it will get most of the weeds and the plot will recover really well. Hopefully this will help a few people asking what to spray on them. Don't spray--but MOW--while the plot is still young!!
For sure that will work. I’ve never had to do that either but good option rather then Chemicals
This works great with fast growing Lambs Quarter. Almost works like a cover crop to protect clover and brassicas.
@@clarkwheeler8764 did the same worked well.
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Great video. I think people just get to anzy to plant. I start in august-sept depending what i plant. I usually use buckwheat as a cover crop and i seed into it roll and spray gly the day i plant and i dont have to many weeds
Yes that way works as well. Timing is everything. Correct people get to excited but it’s also a lot of bad info out there that’s telling these guys to plant
Plan on overseeding brassica midaugust on a field section that is basically.e tn raining again. Not tilling again.the clover half of the field is doing ok.not a deadlot.had to actually mow the clover about 2 weeks ago.its regrowing just fine.weed conttol,ya know? To much wetlands very close.frogs n stuff.very clean water,deer use it as well.😮
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whats your thoughts for southeast .
Ground preparations should be completed 75 days before 1st frost date. I plant when we have appreciable precipitation in the forecast anytime after that. Worse case scenario you should have everything planted Not Later Than 45 days before 1st frost. Using this plan can also give you a little wiggle room if you have a fall crop failure and a winter rye back up plan is always a good idea. Don't wait to buy your seed....do it now.
Correct. That’s pretty much what I said haha.
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors lol, been planting crops of some kind or another for 50 plus years. Oats, clover, potatoes, winter rye and a few other things along the way. Glad people like you can articulate how the proper steps to farming for deer.
Do you hit your plots with liquid fertilizer if the season is open?
@@dwbowhunterable absolutely
If you wouldn’t have said you’re planting too early 90 times I wouldn’t understood
91 times for next time. Got it
Can I whip or mow a hay field/ clover and just throw seed down ???? Will the fall seed grown if just mowed really low??
You can but won’t work very well. You could do that and reseed with clover would be the best chance but only a small percentage would germinate.
A little off topic, but what does incognito look like when it 1st germs up? I put mine in the ground roughly 3 weeks ago and the rain missed me till 8 days ago I got somthing growing but not sure what it is
Looks like corn. Stem with 2 leafs coming off it like blades of grass
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors any way I could send you a picture
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Question for you. I just secured a lease in northern Wisconsin. It’s a Christmas tree farm with some wooded sections in it. What would you suggest for a fall food plot?
Well you are getting close to running out of time in that area in a well prepped area I would probably go with a grain based mix. You can do either winter wheat or winter rye seperate or together.
Or if you wanted a mix you can try hall pass from domain outdoors
Frost will take care of weeds.
@@robertl.5753 I know…
@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors also deer like certain weeds being there browsers.
@@robertl.5753 I know that
Back off the chemicals. We have really lost our bearings.
Buckwheat is my weed control
Great video. Curious, when would you plant peas and soybeans for forage purposes? Thank you.
@@davidimig3292 what state?
Let’s say Michigan
They can be planted early August late July. But won’t amount to anything really. Sure they will eat them down to the ground and be left with nothing leading into fall. They would have to be top dressed with some grains
Thanks. NE Wi. 90 percent agriculture
So for winter wheat and winter rye and radishes + brasicas southeast Iowa would you say beginning of August will ok or what do you recommend 😅
@@ajbrown3707 ideally they wouldn’t be planted together at same time but you can in the right ratio. I would say mid August
@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors so if I did just a rye and radish mix would that be ok or just a rye plot?
@@ajbrown3707 hard to answer man I need more info lol. How big of plot? Are you wanting an early season attraction for bow hunting? Or more of a later season attraction? How many deer in the area? Tons of not a bunch?
@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors more of an early season attraction and maybe 1/4 acre I appreciate appreciate all insight you have
You could plant the brassicas about third week of August that will give you plenty of early season attraction.
Great video man! Question, what do you feel is more important: Getting brassicas in the ground in that ideal time when there isnt rain coming for a few days, or waiting, lets say, a week later and planting right before a rain even if it may be considered "late"? Last year, I planted Domain Big Sexy on August 2 and they turned out great. Should I wait a little bit longer (mid-Michigan) if it means guaranteeing a planting right before a rain? Thanks man
@@kdsberman ideally perfect situation would be to plant right before a rain. Most of us can’t do that. If it’s going to be dry then it’s best to water later into August. If it’s dry then as well you could just plant wheat and rye early September as a fail safe
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors Thats good to know thanks man. So now I know im pretty safe any time in August then and im not rushing things.
For sure.
Rain or shine on or two weeks after July 29.
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@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors Paul Knox from Iowa you to say that. I like the 2 strip system where part of field is clover chicory and other part is a cearal grain radish red clover mix. Hall pass would be perfect with some come back kid added.
You’re also going off of an assumed first frost date. That date can change. Remember that
@@trevorcorriere288 obviously. Everywhere has an average frost date give or take! I mentioned it in the video!
One thing I despise about vids like this is they NEVER discuss the region/climate zones they're in and how that WILL affect crop timing. 🤦♂ Its almost like the deep people making all this food plot vids arent actually ag people...
Want to know what I despise? People that make these types of comments. If you listen to the video I literally tell you when to plant. I don’t care what region you are in unless it’s Deep South that doesn’t get a frost which I have a separate video for! I talk about timing for brassicas and other crops in the video. Rewatch and you’ll see.
This also isn’t ag! I’m not talking about corn or beans!
@@Whitetailobsessionoutdoors Its literally all ag...
The timing is different! That’s my point! 🙄
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