Might not be be up everybody's alley here but I'm kind of interested to learn about how turboing and supercharging works with carburetors especially when it comes to like the diverter valve or the blow off valve
Honestly, while I'd be interesting to see these guys talk about it, Engineering Explained would probably do a much better job from an actual education/math/science perspective.
Blow through boost is something different and special. There’s a few people running blow through setups and they are effective. Just a lot harder to tune properly.
Gotta say, really enjoying and finding so much value with these “how does ‘x’ work in cars” type videos. They are so informative and help understand how certain types of cars work / function.
If you put a BOV in without a Speed Density tune; you will get pre-det on a subaru or about anything else kind of modern without direct injection. You can get the cool noises with a diverter valve if you get a good one. Or dual port like @xxasunaxkiritoxx said. You can dial in just enough noise. Or keep everything stock but delete the intake silencer bottle on the bottom of the intake box. You will hear the noise from a stock diverter like a blow off, and you will hear the turbo noises. If you do a tune and silencer delete only you will get some good noises.
@@DriftNick the tune will get messed up and the car will go super rich then super lean. Anything that uses MAF for the AFR and does not use some kind speed density tune will have that issue. The usdm Subaru stuff has basically no ringland so you will have piston failure on anything but the type Ra block.
@@DriftNick I know the r35 gtr has the same issue, so does bmw and vw, but I do not know much about tuning other cars. Older cars from the 90's and back used speed density and the manifold pressure to base fuel on.
Good video , I really think BOV VS Recirc is really simple: If you have a MAF based ECU , stay with a Recirc , even if you do tune your ecu to compensate for the rich mixture upon the BOV opening , depending on air density you will never be able to truly tune for that scenario. You can help it , but 100% control it ? not really. Subarus are notorious for needing speed density tunes, otherwise they predet. If you have a MAP based ECU , then both will work with a proper tune to back it. You could most likely get away with it without a tune even.
is also important to understand in BOV that changing the rates of the springs can be beneficial if you are not trying to go on an external wastegate. my mine runs a turbosport kompact BOV EM VR10 and eventually as i continued to throw parts at this car required a higher psi spring and to be tuned again. hot take... stop dynotuning your cars that have bolt on. Its not necessary the hand held tuner you use and the custom tunes you get are perfectly fine. If you have something extremely not stock, turbo set ups, engine, transmissions do dyno tuning.
Sooo... would it be a good idea to install them on a stock 2018 AMG C43 and soon to have BMS intakes? Very informative video btw... had to subscribe lol
As far as WRX EJ’s go, Unless you have a built and tuned 400WHP motor DO NOT put on a BOV. Bypass/Diverter valve is the best bet and better for the motor and turbo.
now i understood what that weird pipe from my intake goes back into my throttle body thanks i bought a Turbo hatchback and i was wondering what is this pipe ??? i thought it was some sort of PCV but it was not that lol I thought all cars had blow offs in the atmosphere but now i understood exactly why the piping in my stock car has been made this way !! thank you dude now i can remove all that crap and put some good for sure !
If you drive a mini, I'm pretty sure you're talking about the pipe that diverts slme of the air into the cabin to have the turbo be louder If it's nkt a mini it's still probably that I just can't say for sure lol
Boost control changes how much pressure is needed to open the wastegate, which is on the exhaust side of the system. It’s not really related to the BOV/diverter valve.
No. That has to do with the waste gate actuation, and you should not put those on anything with a reasonable ECU. Those have been obsolete since electronic valves became common in the 90's. Don't be lazy and tune properly. You will make way more power with way less lag. Boost is the enemy of power anyways so if you drop your IAT and are tuned by boost only, you will run lean and burn up.
So. I've been having trouble with my turbo keeping it's boost even in idle, and having to dump it when I get home, every time. Would a blow off valve be what I need to help correct this? 09 Mini Cooper S Clubman, Turbo swap to aftermarket Falken JCW turbo. Also adding AM intake hose and air box.
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Might not be be up everybody's alley here but I'm kind of interested to learn about how turboing and supercharging works with carburetors especially when it comes to like the diverter valve or the blow off valve
No this is actually the perfect comment someone make a whole vid about this
as someone who wants to get to carbs eventually, i'd honestly love to learn about carb-specific turbo and superchargers as well!!
Honestly, while I'd be interesting to see these guys talk about it, Engineering Explained would probably do a much better job from an actual education/math/science perspective.
Blow through boost is something different and special.
There’s a few people running blow through setups and they are effective.
Just a lot harder to tune properly.
I thought diverter valves decreased turbo lag while BOV gives a good noise, but increased lag 😂😂 now im even happier with my BOV 😂😂
as long as your tuned properly for it, it doesnt matter.
@@JonBonazza I can't get it tuned without a standalone ECU lol.
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A bov will keep your turbo spooling faster than a diverter valve between quick shifts. It just comes down to pressure differential.
Gotta say, really enjoying and finding so much value with these “how does ‘x’ work in cars” type videos. They are so informative and help understand how certain types of cars work / function.
If you put a BOV in without a Speed Density tune; you will get pre-det on a subaru or about anything else kind of modern without direct injection. You can get the cool noises with a diverter valve if you get a good one. Or dual port like @xxasunaxkiritoxx said. You can dial in just enough noise.
Or keep everything stock but delete the intake silencer bottle on the bottom of the intake box. You will hear the noise from a stock diverter like a blow off, and you will hear the turbo noises. If you do a tune and silencer delete only you will get some good noises.
How does a blow off valve cause pre-det?
@@DriftNick the tune will get messed up and the car will go super rich then super lean. Anything that uses MAF for the AFR and does not use some kind speed density tune will have that issue. The usdm Subaru stuff has basically no ringland so you will have piston failure on anything but the type Ra block.
@@zanzabar4ky7Maybe it's just a WRX thing, it does not cause a lean condition with any Nissan or Toyota I've done it with.
@@DriftNick I know the r35 gtr has the same issue, so does bmw and vw, but I do not know much about tuning other cars. Older cars from the 90's and back used speed density and the manifold pressure to base fuel on.
@@zanzabar4ky7 I'm talking about cars that use a MAF not speed density.
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Good video , I really think BOV VS Recirc is really simple:
If you have a MAF based ECU , stay with a Recirc , even if you do tune your ecu to compensate for the rich mixture upon the BOV opening , depending on air density you will never be able to truly tune for that scenario. You can help it , but 100% control it ? not really. Subarus are notorious for needing speed density tunes, otherwise they predet.
If you have a MAP based ECU , then both will work with a proper tune to back it. You could most likely get away with it without a tune even.
is also important to understand in BOV that changing the rates of the springs can be beneficial if you are not trying to go on an external wastegate. my mine runs a turbosport kompact BOV EM VR10 and eventually as i continued to throw parts at this car required a higher psi spring and to be tuned again. hot take... stop dynotuning your cars that have bolt on. Its not necessary the hand held tuner you use and the custom tunes you get are perfectly fine. If you have something extremely not stock, turbo set ups, engine, transmissions do dyno tuning.
Love this. Can you do one next on westegates internal and external please!!!! I'm always getting their placements confused.
Borg Warner EFR series turbos have diverter valves inbuilt in the compressor cover and have hectic flutter.
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I put one on the other week and now I'm turning even more heads 😏
Ironic learning about bov from a guy who never had a boosted car 😂 great vid tho
Sooo... would it be a good idea to install them on a stock 2018 AMG C43 and soon to have BMS intakes? Very informative video btw... had to subscribe lol
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As far as WRX EJ’s go, Unless you have a built and tuned 400WHP motor DO NOT put on a BOV. Bypass/Diverter valve is the best bet and better for the motor and turbo.
Bov or diverter might be better for the turbo but stutututu
Nah famalam, I wanna go stututututu every day.
My 50mm blowoff valve sounds like a street sweeper in a procharger setup w/ a bash bar
Incredible video. Very informative 💯👍🏼
just passed this onto my mate who wants to put a blowout valve on his new R34
what about if you get on boost and here a surgey sound no power or throttle issues during this just a sound, golf gti btw, DV upgrade?
If you got boost yea it's needed weather it's a diverter or atmospheric Is the question
now i understood what that weird pipe from my intake goes back into my throttle body thanks
i bought a Turbo hatchback and i was wondering what is this pipe ??? i thought it was some sort of PCV but it was not that lol
I thought all cars had blow offs in the atmosphere but now i understood exactly why the piping in my stock car has been made this way !! thank you dude now i can remove all that crap and put some good for sure !
If you drive a mini, I'm pretty sure you're talking about the pipe that diverts slme of the air into the cabin to have the turbo be louder
If it's nkt a mini it's still probably that I just can't say for sure lol
Got a HKS blow off valve on my WRX
thats not ideal if you dont have a speed density tune
sutututu = BPV
Pstt = BOV
Does manual boost control fall under diverted valve?
Boost control changes how much pressure is needed to open the wastegate, which is on the exhaust side of the system. It’s not really related to the BOV/diverter valve.
No. That has to do with the waste gate actuation, and you should not put those on anything with a reasonable ECU. Those have been obsolete since electronic valves became common in the 90's. Don't be lazy and tune properly. You will make way more power with way less lag. Boost is the enemy of power anyways so if you drop your IAT and are tuned by boost only, you will run lean and burn up.
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Stu stu tu tu tu!!!
He forgot to talk about hybrid BOV!!!
Run a dual port for best of both worlds.
That’s what I got. Turbo smart compact. 🎉
I got the GFB Respons bov.
Everything needs a valve to release pressure or of excess 😂
Are you seiously telling me all i need for stutututu's i just need some tape and a new turbo fund?
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So. I've been having trouble with my turbo keeping it's boost even in idle, and having to dump it when I get home, every time. Would a blow off valve be what I need to help correct this? 09 Mini Cooper S Clubman, Turbo swap to aftermarket Falken JCW turbo. Also adding AM intake hose and air box.
Gonna get me both and install them on top of each other 🫠