While loving Luxembourg still, even after all the revelations about it , I just love Spain and yet again a song I love not being loved by the juries of the time - ah, such is Eurovision. I love the fact that over the years, songs that were overlooked at the time, come into their own years later and gain new fans and that is the beauty of Eurovision. I love going back to these older songs and appreciating them anew.
Despite the controversy, I really like Poupee de cire poupee de son. It is the best song of the night imo. I like it much more than Puppet on a string. Both songs do represent the singer's situation at the time, though which is quite tragic...
Wow, this is fantastic, I just found your channel, and it's going to be a great help to me in the coming weeks, I really appreciate how well done this video was (and presumably your entire channel).
One more time with feeling, I could not imagine improving on this video. Excellent commentary, excellent presentation, fascinating information, you have distilled this year's show in a way I would never be able to do, starting from scratch. (it's a long convoluted story, all I can say is: very grateful and bravo, sir. You do this very well. I may stop in for questions from time to time, I hope you don't mind.) I'm blown away by how well done this video is, and how much I'm learning. Now I will be able to watch the original broadcast and have context. Thank you so, so much.
France Gall told later that this night was a nightmare. The orchestra refused to play this song, when she won, she was slapped by the british contestant just before going back on stage. And a few minutes ago, she got a phone call from her (star) boyfriend Claude François who told her "you won the Eurovision but you lost me". Everyone thought she cried of joy but not really. Her career stopped until the late 70s.
What a saga..! I’m amazed to hear that she was slapped by Kathy Kirby, the UK entrant. I’ve read Kathy K’s biography and while she credits Eurovision for basically killing her career (she never had another hit, and ‘I belong’ barely dented the UK charts) there was no mention of issues with young France Gall, who was 10 years younger than her and, let’s face it, 10 yrs more ‘modern’..
But then I’ve just seen this comment, from France Gall, as quoted in Wiwibloggs.. The British candidate was very disappointed because she should have won, according to her and everybody… And finally, it was me. Me, who didn’t care at all. I recall a slap: Did she enter my dressing-room only to insult me? I don’t know. Anyway, the memory that I have of it is a slap.” And y’all thought the olden days were all about strict dress codes and polite applause!
@@simonpoole6877 Several of Kathy's best songs got plenty of air time due to her TV popularity, even if she never got that far in the pop charts. She was still taking bookings occasionally up until 1983. I doubt that Eurovision 'killed' her career, but rather when The Beatles arrived on the pop scene everything became about groups. The British lady singers had a hard time in the charts then - Dusty Springfield , Helen Shapiro , Cilla Black , Kathy and much underrated , but still singing in cabaret until just a few years ago Susan Maughan. Dusty went to America , Helen into Musical Theatre before transforming herself into a classy Jazz and Gospel singer, Cilla moved into TV presenting which gave her the opportunity to sing a few songs in each show and release occasional albums. Also there was the impact of Kathy's mental health problems on her personal life and career which was such a pity.
My favourite bit of '65 is the badinage between Renata Mauro and the Finnish juror. "Hello Finland, can you hear me?" "Yes, Naples, we can hear you indeed..." "Ooooh!! That's wonderful!" "Yes, isn't it?!"
Since '65 is my birth year, this ESC has extra meaning for me 🙂 Thanks for researching the background of the performances and the history, especially the detail on the UK entry. Looking forward to 1966, which featured the first Black singer (another first from the Netherlands), who actually had dramatic entry to the stage 🙂
Not sure if youve already done this, but it would be interesting to see a video about when and how the differeny national finals came about. And at this stage, was there a central decision process in 1965 or were the just picked and released on site?
I am an 80's kid so Ella elle L'a was my first introduction to France Gall. We had the album Babacar at home. There is also a very pretty song on it called Évidemment 😊 The whole album is quite good actually. Her years with Michel Berger clearly were her best both privately and in her career. It's sad she couldn't enjoy her Eurovision participation and her win...or rather some people around her didn't allow her to enjoy it. Mind you these were all adults who just crushed a 16 year old girl's spirit. Way to go, real mature. Despite the song being controversial it is a standout among the rest due to it sounding so modern for the time so I do like it. Definately the rightful winner. Fascinating woman who suffered some hard knocks in life. May she rest in peace ❤
This year was controversial also in the Finnish preselection (UMK didn't exist yet). There was one jury from all the Nordic countries, and ten local juries from Finnish cities. The Nordic jury chose Viktor Klimenko's song "Aurinko laskee länteen" (The Sun Set to West), but the local juries would have chosen the song "Iltaisin" (In the Evenings) by Lasse Mårtenson, who had represented Finland the previous year, and Marjatta Leppänen, who had won the Finnish preselection in 1963, but been replaced by Laila Halme with the decision of YLE. This time YLE considered a couple of days, and then decided to send "Aurinko laskee länteen", even though "Iltaisin" had received more votes from the juries. The controversy was caused, though, by the fact, that the third placed song "Minne tuuli kuljettaa" (Where the wind carries), which was composed as a "Letkajenkka" dance, which had won some popularity in Europe at the time, was considered to resemble musically the winning song of ESC "Poupée de cire, poupée de son", and many were sure, that it would have placed better, had it been chosen. Katri Helena, who performed the song, later represented Finland in 1979 and 1993.
I love Poupee de Cire Poupee de Son, but I had no idea of its meaning and everything behind it 😳 That's quite creepy, but art nonetheless, with the writer proving all of the points made with the piece of art itself. A meta song! I might respect the song even more now as a piece of art, but I definitely won't be able to enjoy it and whistle it the same way anymore 😬 Thank you for the insight! By the way, my Japanese mother knew the Japanese version of the song without knowing it was from Eurovision, because apparently it is very popular there. When she sang a bit of it, I recognised it from "all Eurovision winner songs" compilations I'd seen on TH-cam and found out she'd released it in so many different languages. That's so cool!
I love France Gall, she was a big part of my teenage years, I loved her German songs. Until a few years ago I didn't even know that she won Eurovision! Also Udo Jürgens is a national treasure in Germany. Both artists gone but not forgotten!
Have to say, I didn't know about all the controversies of France Gall's winning song. It really is interesting and sad at the same time. What I find amazing is the fact that for previous 9 years, all the countries had unquestionably sent the songs in their native languages, without any respective rule. Is Sweden also the only country who hasn't had a single song in their own language after 1998 in ESC? It's so sad, I hope they'll change this mentality soon. My favourite entries from Sweden come from the language rule era, I. e they are in Swedish.
What a selection of songs that year and a lot of stories to go with them. Poor France Gall was apparently mistreated immediately after by her then boyfriend , another YeYe singer, Claude Francois . He rang her to say she had sung of tune and was terrible. It has been suggested he was jealous she had the opportunity as he was already a well established singer -- who knows? In a video clip she is still quite complimentary about Gainsbourg. Kathy Kirby was a truly great UK singing star and in the English speaking countries with her own TV show, but her life was blighted by schizophrenia. I was surprised to find out that her niece was Lady Sarah Thatcher ( wife of Margaret Thatcher's son Mark ) and she arranged for Kathy to go into Brinsworth House , the artists' retirement home, but she died of a heart attack just a few days after moving in. I don't think ' I belong' is among her best songs , although it was a hit and 2nd place is far from bad. The chorus is more of a belt and doesn't showcase the warm qualities of her voice really. Incidentally Ingvar Wixell had a great operatic career and made many appearences in the world's great opera houses like Covent Garden , La Scala and the Met in New York , so lack of Eurovision success did him no harm.
I would have liked to make a mention for the direction and especially the lighting, which seems to be used in an expressionistic way for the first time in ESC, and even the scoring table looks modern! There is a lot of complaining about the Italian hosts, but no one is talking about positive things. PS: I am so upset by all the people who point out the supposed super messy black sun/rainbow of 2023, but the same people then say how epic the performances were. I always think about that black rainbow we had because of the war situation, and then Ukraine actually won. Also, if people were not aware of the kinetic problem, no one would have noticed it…
My podium 🥇 Spain 🥈UK 🥉Portugal. Oh, Bri'ish got silver again. Even in alternative world. Poor France Gall gets honourable mention. Her best days came later.
Which are your favorites in 1965?
I think Luxembourg because, despite the actual theme, it was a song that was modern and up to date, as you noted.
Poupée de cire poupée de son is a total classic, Gainsbourg' lyrics, super arrangement, still fresh today though totally 1960s style.
France Gall. Gainsbourg composed several songs for the Eurovision. The last one in 1990 (white and black blues). 🎙️
While loving Luxembourg still, even after all the revelations about it , I just love Spain and yet again a song I love not being loved by the juries of the time - ah, such is Eurovision. I love the fact that over the years, songs that were overlooked at the time, come into their own years later and gain new fans and that is the beauty of Eurovision. I love going back to these older songs and appreciating them anew.
Despite the controversy, I really like Poupee de cire poupee de son. It is the best song of the night imo. I like it much more than Puppet on a string. Both songs do represent the singer's situation at the time, though which is quite tragic...
Wow, this is fantastic, I just found your channel, and it's going to be a great help to me in the coming weeks, I really appreciate how well done this video was (and presumably your entire channel).
One more time with feeling, I could not imagine improving on this video. Excellent commentary, excellent presentation, fascinating information, you have distilled this year's show in a way I would never be able to do, starting from scratch. (it's a long convoluted story, all I can say is: very grateful and bravo, sir. You do this very well. I may stop in for questions from time to time, I hope you don't mind.) I'm blown away by how well done this video is, and how much I'm learning. Now I will be able to watch the original broadcast and have context. Thank you so, so much.
Thank you so much for the appreciation and for watching the video (which not too many have 😅). Feel free to ask ;)
France Gall told later that this night was a nightmare. The orchestra refused to play this song, when she won, she was slapped by the british contestant just before going back on stage. And a few minutes ago, she got a phone call from her (star) boyfriend Claude François who told her "you won the Eurovision but you lost me". Everyone thought she cried of joy but not really.
Her career stopped until the late 70s.
What a saga..!
I’m amazed to hear that she was slapped by Kathy Kirby, the UK entrant. I’ve read Kathy K’s biography and while she credits Eurovision for basically killing her career (she never had another hit, and ‘I belong’ barely dented the UK charts) there was no mention of issues with young France Gall, who was 10 years younger than her and, let’s face it, 10 yrs more ‘modern’..
But then I’ve just seen this comment, from France Gall, as quoted in Wiwibloggs..
The British candidate was very disappointed because she should have won, according to her and everybody… And finally, it was me. Me, who didn’t care at all. I recall a slap: Did she enter my dressing-room only to insult me? I don’t know. Anyway, the memory that I have of it is a slap.”
And y’all thought the olden days were all about strict dress codes and polite applause!
Miss Kirby seems to have been a handful. Diva!
@@simonpoole6877 Several of Kathy's best songs got plenty of air time due to her TV popularity, even if she never got that far in the pop charts. She was still taking bookings occasionally up until 1983. I doubt that Eurovision 'killed' her career, but rather when The Beatles arrived on the pop scene everything became about groups. The British lady singers had a hard time in the charts then - Dusty Springfield , Helen Shapiro , Cilla Black , Kathy and much underrated , but still singing in cabaret until just a few years ago Susan Maughan. Dusty went to America , Helen into Musical Theatre before transforming herself into a classy Jazz and Gospel singer, Cilla moved into TV presenting which gave her the opportunity to sing a few songs in each show and release occasional albums. Also there was the impact of Kathy's mental health problems on her personal life and career which was such a pity.
My favourite bit of '65 is the badinage between Renata Mauro and the Finnish juror.
"Hello Finland, can you hear me?"
"Yes, Naples, we can hear you indeed..."
"Ooooh!! That's wonderful!"
"Yes, isn't it?!"
Oops sorry
@@eurovisionhistories Don't be sorry! It's hardly a "classic" moment, it just makes me laugh every time I see it.
Since '65 is my birth year, this ESC has extra meaning for me 🙂 Thanks for researching the background of the performances and the history, especially the detail on the UK entry. Looking forward to 1966, which featured the first Black singer (another first from the Netherlands), who actually had dramatic entry to the stage 🙂
Not sure if youve already done this, but it would be interesting to see a video about when and how the differeny national finals came about. And at this stage, was there a central decision process in 1965 or were the just picked and released on site?
I am an 80's kid so Ella elle L'a was my first introduction to France Gall. We had the album Babacar at home. There is also a very pretty song on it called Évidemment 😊 The whole album is quite good actually. Her years with Michel Berger clearly were her best both privately and in her career. It's sad she couldn't enjoy her Eurovision participation and her win...or rather some people around her didn't allow her to enjoy it. Mind you these were all adults who just crushed a 16 year old girl's spirit. Way to go, real mature. Despite the song being controversial it is a standout among the rest due to it sounding so modern for the time so I do like it. Definately the rightful winner. Fascinating woman who suffered some hard knocks in life. May she rest in peace ❤
This is the contest that the United Kingdom sent their best ever song to the Eurovision song contest
Thanks for this vídeo.
This is an important contribute to music history in Europe
Thanks. Thats a great compliment 🥰
This year was controversial also in the Finnish preselection (UMK didn't exist yet). There was one jury from all the Nordic countries, and ten local juries from Finnish cities. The Nordic jury chose Viktor Klimenko's song "Aurinko laskee länteen" (The Sun Set to West), but the local juries would have chosen the song "Iltaisin" (In the Evenings) by Lasse Mårtenson, who had represented Finland the previous year, and Marjatta Leppänen, who had won the Finnish preselection in 1963, but been replaced by Laila Halme with the decision of YLE. This time YLE considered a couple of days, and then decided to send "Aurinko laskee länteen", even though "Iltaisin" had received more votes from the juries. The controversy was caused, though, by the fact, that the third placed song "Minne tuuli kuljettaa" (Where the wind carries), which was composed as a "Letkajenkka" dance, which had won some popularity in Europe at the time, was considered to resemble musically the winning song of ESC "Poupée de cire, poupée de son", and many were sure, that it would have placed better, had it been chosen. Katri Helena, who performed the song, later represented Finland in 1979 and 1993.
I love Poupee de Cire Poupee de Son, but I had no idea of its meaning and everything behind it 😳
That's quite creepy, but art nonetheless, with the writer proving all of the points made with the piece of art itself. A meta song!
I might respect the song even more now as a piece of art, but I definitely won't be able to enjoy it and whistle it the same way anymore 😬
Thank you for the insight!
By the way, my Japanese mother knew the Japanese version of the song without knowing it was from Eurovision, because apparently it is very popular there. When she sang a bit of it, I recognised it from "all Eurovision winner songs" compilations I'd seen on TH-cam and found out she'd released it in so many different languages. That's so cool!
Something similar happened to me reading about it ;)
Oh Udo 😁😁😁
Looking forward to this review 👍
Poupee de cire, poupee de son is practically a rock song, before rock.
I love France Gall, she was a big part of my teenage years, I loved her German songs. Until a few years ago I didn't even know that she won Eurovision!
Also Udo Jürgens is a national treasure in Germany. Both artists gone but not forgotten!
Have to say, I didn't know about all the controversies of France Gall's winning song. It really is interesting and sad at the same time.
What I find amazing is the fact that for previous 9 years, all the countries had unquestionably sent the songs in their native languages, without any respective rule. Is Sweden also the only country who hasn't had a single song in their own language after 1998 in ESC? It's so sad, I hope they'll change this mentality soon. My favourite entries from Sweden come from the language rule era, I. e they are in Swedish.
Yeah sti sad Caroline aff uglas didn't win with Snälla snälla
I feel like this is the early year with the most stories, My Favourite one that didn't mentioned in the video is the story of France that year
I won't lie, I have 3 favorite songs in eurovision 1965:
Spain,UK,Luxembourg ❤
Nice video! Not the best year. The top 2 were brilliant and stood out a lot for me! Love Luxembourg especially
danke!
What a selection of songs that year and a lot of stories to go with them. Poor France Gall was apparently mistreated immediately after by her then boyfriend , another YeYe singer, Claude Francois . He rang her to say she had sung of tune and was terrible. It has been suggested he was jealous she had the opportunity as he was already a well established singer -- who knows? In a video clip she is still quite complimentary about Gainsbourg.
Kathy Kirby was a truly great UK singing star and in the English speaking countries with her own TV show, but her life was blighted by schizophrenia. I was surprised to find out that her niece was Lady Sarah Thatcher ( wife of Margaret Thatcher's son Mark ) and she arranged for Kathy to go into Brinsworth House , the artists' retirement home, but she died of a heart attack just a few days after moving in.
I don't think ' I belong' is among her best songs , although it was a hit and 2nd place is far from bad. The chorus is more of a belt and doesn't showcase the warm qualities of her voice really.
Incidentally Ingvar Wixell had a great operatic career and made many appearences in the world's great opera houses like Covent Garden , La Scala and the Met in New York , so lack of Eurovision success did him no harm.
I would have liked to make a mention for the direction and especially the lighting, which seems to be used in an expressionistic way for the first time in ESC, and even the scoring table looks modern! There is a lot of complaining about the Italian hosts, but no one is talking about positive things.
PS: I am so upset by all the people who point out the supposed super messy black sun/rainbow of 2023, but the same people then say how epic the performances were. I always think about that black rainbow we had because of the war situation, and then Ukraine actually won. Also, if people were not aware of the kinetic problem, no one would have noticed it…
nothing about France who came third a major hit anyway at least in France
Oh I didn't know. Didnt really jump out at me
The single record was reportedly sold 400 000 times.
My podium 🥇 Spain 🥈UK 🥉Portugal. Oh, Bri'ish got silver again. Even in alternative world. Poor France Gall gets honourable mention. Her best days came later.
Kind of agree again haha
What's this "Bri'ish" thing? Are you being racist?
@@artsed08 how?