Ventus one V2 please!!!! Would love a compassion on the stark and Ventus one V2. And range test for both stark and ventus! Can’t wait for the content that you guys put out!
Phenomenal in depth video guys! Love learning all this information about the stark from you guys! Great job on the top speed run Reed! Lance let me know if you wanna get rid of your old 72v battery 😂 Keep riding guys! Safe rides
This is like comparing a 250 to a 500cc sure the Varg has top top speeds but its not as usable on the trails. It's nice to whip around a lighter bike, rather just plowing through with a monster. some stuff like turning around on a trail or on the side of a hill separates the men from the boys.
The Varg is like a big block Chevy on two wheels!! Sir Sur Ron is svelte and has good powah, light and nimble. Now, we just need to get Sir Sur Ron to slow down on chugging electrons like they are kewlAid!
I would still pick the stark varg. because even when the surron is lighter and has enough power. i don't want to be bothered with aftermarket parts and issues. I prefer guarantee parts work and don't overheat when i turn something too high. Also the varg has probaly the most range
I'm wearing O-Neal Shorty Boots, bought them on Amazon for like $110 i think, They run a full size to big, id buy a size smaller than you normally wear
I’ve noticed significant difference. I run 72/57 Sotion motor at 28kw ebmx swing arm. What rear sprocket do you run? Sotion recommended 54 but I think I should run closer to 60. With the belt I ran a 64 to avoid ruining the belt. I prefer the way the belt rides, but I have to be able to depend on it when I’m way back on Colorado single track
@@Smokeybaconcrew thanks for the advice .. Smokey bacon… I do need to chill more. I take back my questions about range and gear ratios… I can now see how those questions come off as way high strung and uptight. Maybe we can get together to chill out sometime? I’m always looking for chill people who aren’t concerned with technical Sur-Ron questions. What sorts of super chill things are you interested in?
with the riding you guys do I don't understand why you all wouldn't have Vargs with softer suspension. I get it I love the smaller bikes too, an underpowered KX85 was one of my favorite bikes ever to ride, but the Varg is the real deal
I mean there’s no debate really. A heavily modified surron is going to cost more in the long run and take more time to build correctly. Even after all that time and money, it’s still not as fast as a stark and the only downsides becomes the weight and charger for the stark. Still cool to see a comparison, but it’s pretty obvious that the stark is still a monster and can even save someone money if they wanted to go all the way with a surron.
Hey guys, y'all are the reason I got my sting R and its amazing so thank you. What's the first power upgrade you would get? Battery, controller or motor?
Surron most times (or ventus one in my case). Most states you can ride them wherever without issue if you aren't acting like a dip💩. The stark not so much. Especially in suburban areas. Also I've been trying to give myself every reason I don't need to buy it. 😂
Ventus one V2 please!!!! Would love a compassion on the stark and Ventus one V2. And range test for both stark and ventus! Can’t wait for the content that you guys put out!
@@cristiantrejo4221 they came out with some really nice emotes this year
Great video! For Utah mountain trail rides, Sur ron every time!
If you use the clickers (2 clicks counter wise) on the Stark, it will be so much smoother. Huge difference.
This channel just keeps getting better and better
Thank you Thank you!
I love a surron but ill take the STARK VARG over a 450 to 🤪
love the video, the stark is a big boy
facts!
Phenomenal in depth video guys! Love learning all this information about the stark from you guys!
Great job on the top speed run Reed!
Lance let me know if you wanna get rid of your old 72v battery 😂
Keep riding guys! Safe rides
Beautifull scenery! Envy you guys! keep riding!\m/
Do a vid on the new ventus one v2
Maybe both!
How about an Arctic Leopard exe880 or ex800?
They look pretty set up out the box?
I want to see vids on artic leopard eve-880 and especially ex-800 .... i just want range
Ex 800 vid coming sometime soon
sweet , hell ya ....range range range test
This is like comparing a 250 to a 500cc sure the Varg has top top speeds but its not as usable on the trails. It's nice to whip around a lighter bike, rather just plowing through with a monster. some stuff like turning around on a trail or on the side of a hill separates the men from the boys.
Couldn't agree more
The Varg is like a big block Chevy on two wheels!! Sir Sur Ron is svelte and has good powah, light and nimble. Now, we just need to get Sir Sur Ron to slow down on chugging electrons like they are kewlAid!
The light surron because of my older age and things get tactical on rocky tree covered trails
It a light tactical emoto with adjustable electronic controls and great brakes is like a trials bike and a stunt bike you want to have control
Hey guys I love your videos i think you guys should consider selling the e ride pro S on your website!!
I would love to see a range test comparison
I really like what you guys did with the upgrades on the Surron, a really good looking ride!! What's the weight limit for that Surron? God Speed!
Probs like 220lbs
I would still pick the stark varg. because even when the surron is lighter and has enough power. i don't want to be bothered with aftermarket parts and issues. I prefer guarantee parts work and don't overheat when i turn something too high. Also the varg has probaly the most range
Better to compare an ultra bee modded to the stark. The light bees wear you out so much faster no matter how you mod them...
Can you guys share the upgrades on the surron? What battery, controller and motor do you guys have on there?
@@hmhn4094 they came out with an entire video about that surron
@@musicbox4022 I appreciate the comment, I found it after I commented this
Please do an enduro mod on the Stark Varg! I would love to see it run a decent headlight and brake light system.
I would probably pick the surron, mainly because I've never ridden one before, and I am very curious what it would be like.
Tacos after the ride is always peak🙏
You guys gotta do a review on the Talaria Sting R Expert Edition! Cant find literally any reviews on it
Its on the list! stay tuned
Dust moto? Very curious the real world range of trails on it. Can’t wait.
Id recommend a 72v
@@Talariaboys I have a 72v haha I just want to see you guys review the dust moto
Dang I want to ride there! still on a stock mx3 lol
You bet worp 9 has some excellent parts for your up grade
Would be good to see these bike's in a drag race.
I would love for you to try the new rfn 43ah. I think that with some improvements it can be incredible
Will there be an install video on the 81v
Would take the stark sell it and kit out a Surron to my own needs😂
chi battery systems has batteries for my e ride pro ss
When the ventis vid coming out
Surron all the way
Lance, what kind of Riding Shoes are you wearing in this Video? Thanks! Do they work well as compared to MX Boots?
I'm wearing O-Neal Shorty Boots, bought them on Amazon for like $110 i think, They run a full size to big, id buy a size smaller than you normally wear
I think the primary chain really sucks the battery on the surron
It doesn’t any more than a belt
I’ve noticed significant difference. I run 72/57 Sotion motor at 28kw ebmx swing arm. What rear sprocket do you run? Sotion recommended 54 but I think I should run closer to 60. With the belt I ran a 64 to avoid ruining the belt. I prefer the way the belt rides, but I have to be able to depend on it when I’m way back on Colorado single track
@@Smokeybaconcrew thanks for the advice .. Smokey bacon… I do need to chill more. I take back my questions about range and gear ratios… I can now see how those questions come off as way high strung and uptight. Maybe we can get together to chill out sometime? I’m always looking for chill people who aren’t concerned with technical Sur-Ron questions. What sorts of super chill things are you interested in?
with the riding you guys do I don't understand why you all wouldn't have Vargs with softer suspension. I get it I love the smaller bikes too, an underpowered KX85 was one of my favorite bikes ever to ride, but the Varg is the real deal
I mean there’s no debate really. A heavily modified surron is going to cost more in the long run and take more time to build correctly. Even after all that time and money, it’s still not as fast as a stark and the only downsides becomes the weight and charger for the stark. Still cool to see a comparison, but it’s pretty obvious that the stark is still a monster and can even save someone money if they wanted to go all the way with a surron.
Oh it’s because equal weight I want a emoto that weighs as much as I do for sturdy ness and performance
Hey guys, y'all are the reason I got my sting R and its amazing so thank you. What's the first power upgrade you would get? Battery, controller or motor?
Controller, Battery then Moter for sure!
How many miles did you do on the Surron and what was final battery life?
We did 30 miles and 8000 feet of climbing on the Surron and it was at 10 percent left. We also weren't riding slow at all.
@@Talariaboyscompared to Stark at 8000ft, 40%, and 30 miles. But, I thought you said you put more miles on the Surron because you lost your AirPods?
The stark did less, like 27 miles and 7300 feet of climbing 40% left
@@Talariaboys thanks for clarifying
Ninja Surron 🥷
Ultra B with gummies and bar risers
Regarding the Surron vs Eridepross, which is best? "Fully" upgraded i mean. Cus stock we all know its the eridepross, v1 or v2
Parts for a fully upgraded E-ride pro ss aren't out yet. So Sarron for sure.
Stark does not has "motor" or "battery" guard cover. Is a MX bike. If You crash it with a log You go break battery ?
The worp 9 arosa like riding a mountain goat
Ventus one vs Stark varg
Surron giveaway?
E-Ride pro giveaway coming....
I think i would want something ultra bee based
Stark varg
Good times Oh you guys ride trails I would never ride on I love sandy forest not elevation
My 84 v ebmx surron any day till I buy a stark n flip a coin every time I leave the crib
Built > Bought
You should give away the losing bike :p
Surron most times (or ventus one in my case). Most states you can ride them wherever without issue if you aren't acting like a dip💩. The stark not so much. Especially in suburban areas. Also I've been trying to give myself every reason I don't need to buy it. 😂
I will rather ride any gas bike before these two… but I would take the Surron over the stark!
You can't compare a Light bee to a Varg that's like comparing a pinto to a Lambo 😂
Do you share your trails?
This was skyline trail in Ogden Utah
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And you had to edit it 😂
@@brentcollins9727right 😂
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225lb pro motocross racer....😆😅🤣😂