AppleTV 4K Settings •Format: 4K SDR 50 or 60Hz •HDMI Output: YCbCr •Chroma: 4:4:4 (if you have sufficient bandwidth) •Match Content: Dynamic Range and Frame Rate •Audio: Change Format Off; Dolby Atmos On
Thanks Gene, really helpful. One additional tip is to make sure ‘Reduce loud sounds’ is set to ‘No’ in the audio settings, to maintain full dynamic range. There are also settings in the ‘App settings’ for Music where you can switch to lossless and Dolby Atmos as automatic.
I wish Apple put that on the slide out screen that users access any time (I forget what that is called). So then, if you live in an apartment, don't want to wake the kids or just want to have a less booming experience, you can turn on reduce bass quickly.
I just got the latest 128Gb version for Christmas. I just upgraded from the 2017 4K version. Apple did a great job of keeping the older versions up to date. The only difference I noticed between the two is when watching TH-cam in 4K 60fps. The older version would down scale to 1440p 60fps.
This helped with making my SDR content look tremendously better. No more color banding and colors really pop on my Epson 5040UB. Thank you Gene and team!
Thanks Gene, your video here has solved the mystery for me! Why did my AppleTV -> Denon 4400H -> HiSense HDR10 TV always look so darned washed out when I "correctly" set up the Apple TV to output "4K HDR". I found out by trial-and-error that my picture just looked so much better when I set the Apple TV to "4K SDR" (and yes, I still had Match Frame Rate and Match Dynamic Range both set to on), but I couldn't figure out why, and it's bugged me until today. Your great video here has both solved the mystery for me, and confirmed that the reason everything just looks so much better is because Apple TV is now properly sending SDR content as SDR, and not washing it out in with an HDR signal, and yet also automatically changing up to HDR when the source content requires. My flawed understanding was that I should set the TV setting to "4K HDR" and that "Match Dynamic Range" would cause the Apple TV to correctly downscale to SDR when needed - but that's not what happens. We need to set the TV setting to "4K SDR" and then "Match Dynamic Range" would cause the Apple TV to upscale to HDR when needed. Apple could certainly improve their UI to provide better guidance, IMHO. Thank you again!!!
Are you sure about this? If it’s setup at match content range and frame, why wouldn’t you enable HDR? I would think that Apple TV would know of native content is in SDR then it would match content and not upscale.
Great information, thanks! I do have a gen-3 Apple TV 4K, which I love, but I do have a question. I don't yet have an Atmos receiver, though I plan to get one. With a standard stereo setup, should I disable Dolby Atmos in the audio settings, or does Apple TV automatically down-convert the audio to match the current system setup? Cheers!
Please, if you going to suggest settings please take the time to explain why not choose the other options. For example, on Format, why not RGB HIGH OR LOW, when I can clearly see more specular highlights details when on RGB HIGH.
RGB Low corresponds to the full 0-255 range, while high is 16-235 right? At least that’s what my LG C2 is showing when I swap between them on the ATV then the LG. I say that to say, wouldn’t RGB low give technically better results for you if your tv supports it?
Helpful video however, you glossed over connecting the Apple TV........why connect it to the AVR instead of the TV and use eARC back to the AVR? IF you connect it to the AVR....where? and then where does the AVR connect on the TV? Follow up: I'm connected to TV (Sony 950H) and using eARC to AVR. It seems to work fine.....am I losing quality.... either audio or video?
great video...not sure though if I am doing something wrong, but I don't see 60hz whenI press info on my remote for the receiver, I see atoms, but only 4k 30 hz, I know my tv has 4k 60 hertz but boy it sure does sound and look good, the dolby vision notification does pop up now when entering a movie that has it thanks
Totally agree! AppleMusic with lossless spatial audio through a Dolby Atmos system is truly awesome! While it is not true to original 2 channel stuff (which is closest to original sound in a hall or club), it’s like you are in the middle of the music swimming in it. It’s on a different level from 2channel type stuff
How would you rate out of 10 the blueray Atmos mix of Hanns Zimmers live in Prague ? Trying to get a reference point of what constitutes a "good mix" thanks
If you understand how Atmos music is mixed, you will realize that it can be MORE like the real thing. Think of two channel as trying to put a gallon of milk in a quart bottle. Atmos breaks free from that limitation and allows each instrument to occupy its own spot in the performance space. Ringo’s drums can now be heard. The suppressed solo of a voice or a piano now has more detail. Keep in mind, above is with a true Atmos system. Not Spatial via headphones. Gene did a video all about this in 2022.
@@mongo2044 For myself my love of music grew while being part of orchestras, bands, etc… rather than sitting in the audience listening to it. So yeh, spatial audio is like being part of the band again - it’s how I relate to it. But that’s me. And also, a big YES to giving each instrument its own voice! 👍👍👍
Thanks for another informative video, Gene! I have a Sony A80J and Denon X4700H AVR. My TV has all the streaming services built in. Would the sound and picture quality improve if I also got the Apple TV. I primarily stream Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Apple TV+. I am new to this and do not fully understand how this technology works. Thanks again!
Dolby atmos / Spatial Audio music worked out of the box for me with the latest software update they have on there. Yet to check HD as I don’t have a 4K tv yet.
Nice video, Gene! Very helpful for all Apple TV owners. I have used these settings myself for a couple years now. Have you tried any of the new features that Apple has added like the ability to do calibration of the TV with your phone camera and all of that? Any thoughts on how good that is or if it works? I have my ATV4k going into a Denon x2700h to a Sony X95h. Sometimes the picture cuts out and goes to a black screen while watching a program. You have to go back out and restart/replay the program to get the picture back. From my testing I think it is an issue with my Denon receiver. Have you seen this happen with your x3800h? Thanks!
I had a similar issue with a new Roku Ultra running through a Denon AVR with EARC to my Sony A8H OLED. I fixed it by installing 48 Gbps rated HDMI cables.
@@jamestapscott9400 Thanks for the reply! I’m also connected to the EARC HDMI input on the TV. My cables are supposed to be rated for that but worth a shot at swapping them out I suppose. Cheaper than a new AVR or TV, right? The family really gets annoyed when it blanks out in the middle of a show, lol.
My one year old HDMI cables were supposedly able to pass Dolby Vision. So, the issue with audio/no video occurred when attempting to stream DV video on a 2021 Roku Ultra. DV worked on the Sony X800M2, so I did not think cables were the issue. I was very frustrated. After several hours of combing AV forums, I broke down and ordered new cables. I installed Zeskit Lite 48 Gbps Slim Ultra High Speed HDMI 3 and 5 foot cables. Some owners of the X95H reported random EARC issues. I would check the HDMI settings on the Sony and Denon. Ensure they are set to Enhanced. Also, check for updates.
The Apple calibration is rather crude. I was not impressed at all with what it did to the almost already calibrated picture I had on my Oled TVs. It emphasized green a lot. It was just wrong!
@@jamestapscott9400 thanks again! Glad the new cables worked for you. I have some Pacroban cables rated for 48gbps installed but maybe one has an issue, worth a swap to see. Those enhanced settings are key, too. Especially in this case with DV or setting the ATV to chroma 4:4:4. The Sony tv requires enhanced for that.
That’s pretty cool. I was just looking for a way to have my sound bar. Turn on whenever my TV turns on since it doesn’t turn on after I install the Apple TV.
Hi This was really helpful. I set my Samsung TV to your settings. I don't have Dolby Atmos on my Soundbar. Is it a good idea to set it to Auto or Dolby 5.1 surround?
Always been an android person but you mentioned the atmos music app on Apple so many times I thought I need to try. I ordered from Amazon today. Will be here tomorrow. Will come back here when i am setting it up thanks.
Thanks Gene, as always is great to have the support and suggestions from specialist like you, But what about the TV´s that automatic select the best output format? especially uf I have disable Dolby Visión or HDR disable, because I enable SDR format as you suggest. Thanks again and keep watching and listening. This is Paco from Mexico
Hi, Would like to say a big thank you for set up of Apple 4K, since taking your direction on setup I have found that TH-cam is not buffering between adverts/commercials while watching videos. This was caused by setting the Apple to 4K HDR 50/60hz and was frustrating me for months, so once again a big thank you. If you have a video on how to set up the best Dolby Atmos on a Yamaha RX-A3080 with a 5.1.4 Dolby Atmos setup I would be very pleased to watch and learn and have my system sounding just like it should. Once again thank you and have a wonderful New Year.
Thanks a lot!! This was what I needed, no more oversaturated cover art in Plex, perfect playback in 1080p, 2160 4k HDR or Dolby vision ... I almost threw out the ATV
Gene, thanks for the tip about using SDR 4K rather than HDR 4K. Using the latter setting always makes black and white TV shows look bizarre when I am using Plex. Actually, I prefer my nVIDIA Shield, but now my first generation Apple TV 4K will be more useful.
@@Andersljungberg Yes, the Apple TV setting matches the content’s format. So it makes no sense to use SDR over Dolby Atmos if you have a high end TV that supports it. There’s too much ignorance on this topic. 4K Dolby atmos will have your screen savers and Apple menus at 4K Dolby atmos at all times. Then it will match the format for whatever content you’re watching. WHY downgrade to SDR for the screensavers and menu? Seems dumb to me
Hello Sir I want to say thank you I love your show it very informative! My question to you is I’m about to pull the trigger and upgrade to a S95C tv and my concern is that my AVR Denon 4500H will it be compatible? It’ll be hooked up alone just for audio I’m currently running a 7.1.4 will it work or do I need to upgrade my AVR?
Thanks Gene, Happy New Year to you and your family. Have swapped over to Apple tv/Apple Music coz of you. Really enjoying the Atmos mixes. Only problem is now i wanna upgrade my surrounds!
With the audio if you only have Dolby 5.1 should you still turn audio off and select that? Apple says you will lose your surround sound when you turn auto off
I think automatic mode should work and streaming services can of course stream their material with several different frame frequencies . Surely the best thing should be for Apple TV to send in the same frame rate that the streamed material contains
Just a quick personal anecdote regarding settings - with Match Content turned on the TH-cam app within an Apple TV 4K device becomes useles for many people. Apparently there's a difference between formats on content and ads, and Apple TV / receivers can't keep up with all of the switching. I've experienced this and seen it discussed across forums, with owners of a variety of tvs and receiver combos.. Ultimately I had to turn off Match Content, or only use TH-cam app directly installed in my physical tv's operating system and not via Apple TV device. My personal equipment: TCL Roku Class 5 65-inch & Yamaha TSR-700 - Apple TV 4K 3rd Gen. All the best in 2023!
Great video. I would like my Trinnov to do the processing and not the Apple TV unit. Is this possible as all I see are apCM settings and not bitstream 🤔
Hi Gene, I am debating whether to buy Apple TV which is just a player or a Mac mini which is a full fledged computer and can do lot more than just playing media. In my AV journey of 25 years I have seen many “media players” becoming redundant but a computer can remain useful way beyond that. The question that I have is can I get the same feature as Apple TV? Will I get Dolby Atmos out from its HDMI port? And lossless audio in similar way? Or will I have to stick to Apple TV for this? We have Apple Store recently opened in my city but I don’t think those folks can answer such questions authoritatively. Thanks in advance. Pushkar
Thanks Gene for the informative video. I've been watching Apple TV on my JVC RS-2000 projector, and after following your recommendation to switch to SDR settings, I've noticed much better contrast and color saturation on the Apple TV main screen, where all the apps are displayed. It's very interesting. Do you know why HDR is not available on the prime video app when watching through Apple TV? I've noticed that all the HDR movies are presented in SDR. Is this perhaps an app problem on Apple TV? I was just wondering if you have any information on this issue. All the best!
I just like to say a very big thank you this is made a big difference to my Apple 4K TV watching this video I had it all set up wrong and now everything is going great thank you very much
12:49 I knew I set this thing up right. Those are my exact settings. I had mess around with for a little while, but this is the end result for my setup.
After going back-and-forth a bit, I found that I prefer to change the audio format to Dolby Digital 5.1 and then I just have my receiver set as always to up-mix to the height channels. The settings are very deceiving. Typically for as long as I can remember your options are to bitstream out or convert to linear PCM. This device reads as though PCM is normal or you’re converting to Dolby digital. Confusing 🤔 I feel like they configure these to be connected to TVs so you would want to have the two channel PCM option be default.
Have you experienced no sound on prime and Netflix with non atmos audio, when atmos is on in settings? I have to go into setting and turn off atmos to get sound
Great video. ? I have a room that’s about 12x26. I’m looking to a subwoofer. My budget is $2,000 can recommend one for me. I would like to go with 2 but not sure at the budget I can at the moment Thank you
Love everything about this channel, except for the intro music. Any chance you could lower the volume or find something less jarring? It blows out my ear drums every time. Keep up the good work and happy new year.
But I have heard that Apple TV has Auto Frame rate. which is based on the stream material's images per second. Shouldn't it also be able to automatically select the right type of HDR that the stream contains?
Great video Gene. One more consideration for next time is to speak to the Apples support of HDR10+. There is actually a growing amount of content in this newer dynamic HDR format. It is only supported on the Gen 3 Apple TV and does require the AVR support of HDMI 2.1. I just upgraded my Denon 8500H with the new 8K board.
Great Vid Gene. "Audioholic" or not, your video suggestions are right on. This video took a page right out of my brain. Keep up the video suggestions, always like hearing what you have to say.
I noticed when steaming out of my TV. The audio is very weak . Going into my surround sound system. Especially with HBO Max. Would something like apple TV. Solve that issue and give me stronger audio ?
Hi Gene, why is no one talking about getting DTS audio, and it's source. Also I'm unable to pass-through DTS to my receiver from my samsung TV while my content is stored in plex server.
What does it mean if I had the blinking and 1 second black outs when I was on HDR and after switching to SDR it was no longer doing that and worked smoothly. Is that a cable issue?
Don’t forget to turn on CEC so that your Apple tv can wake other devices, automatically switch inputs, and also control the volume of the attached receiver with the volume buttons on the Apple tv remote. CEC has to be enabled on both devices. My apple tv volume control was not configured completely by default, took an extra step of selecting REMOTES AND DEVICES > Control TV’s and Receivers (ON) > Volume Control (auto via HDMi{receiver}). In this case the “receiver” was a soundbar, and this is probably the setting of choice for any intermediary audio device between the apple tv and the display. I’ll also add my settings for use on my ancient 2008 LCD tv, in the video options of apple tv, everything in “match content” is turned off. Because sometimes when matching hdr content it washes out the picture. I’ve seen several setup guides advocating turning them on, but allot of these settings exist for specific use cases with various hardware and aren’t always universally recommended.
Notice the Marantz font color changes depending on SDR/HDR/DV. The standard font color is used for SDR, orange for HDR, and green for DV. The OSD color will reflect which format is being decoded (change volume for example while watching).
I just picked up an Apple TV 4K latest model, so this content is greatly appreciated. Also picked up the Yamaha RX A6A receiver yesterday evening, so I’m going to have some fun.
Hey Gene. I have a few questions. I stream vía my LG C9. 1) Is there a big difference in picture and audio quality between streaming within the TV’s apps vs Apple TV to justify buying one? 2) I own a denon x4700h. Will the Apple TV allow me to upmix content with dtsX &/or auro 3d? 3) if I were to buy one, should I connect the device straight to the tv or AVR? Thanks!
So do you have the ATV4K hooked directly to the receiver or the tv? If receiver is it in the eARC port or any HDMI port and how do you hook to the tv? Is it via an HDMI output to the tv?
Are your setting screens the same for newer ATV models? I’m wondering why there’s a 1080p Dolby vision option, but 4k just says HDR. Does that mean it doesn’t think the tv/rcvr supports Dolby vision? I definitely get it show on my tv on discs played on my Oppo. Can people mention some streaming movies that definitively work? I wonder if they show it on the movie title page but not really streamed with it. I know prime doesn’t support Dolby vision and does hdr10+ now and I think you need premium subscription on Netflix.
Mr. DellaSalla, I've been wanting one of the Apple TV units sense you first spoke of them, but I wonder how would it benefit my system. I'm just a nearly flat broke bugger and I only have an older Onkyo 5.1.2 and an old Sharp Aqous 70" 1080P. Thanks a million for all that you do and I wish you and yours all of the very best in the new year!
Great timing! I just bough an Apple TV over the Christmas break. I love the user experience. It's the perfect combination of Apple ease of use and geeky setup options such as the ability to match content. Sadly, my Marantz 7702 doesn't support HDR. I either need a workaround or a new processor. How bad would a Receiver with pre-outs be? I really don't want to spend $3000 on a Processor that will become outdated in a few years because of some new HDMI standard.
Hello can I ask You 1 question:)? I have the apple 4k tv box, denon avr x1700h with a samsung qled TV. 5.1 serup with kef q750 and rel 1205 II. I don’t understand why the avr shows multi in when playing mostly everything? Why not dolby dig + D sorround? What multi in means? Regards great chanel
Thanks for the guide. I tried these on my Apple tv connected to Yamaha tsr-700 which connects to TCL tv. When content changes from Dolby vision to SDR whole screen gets a purple filter on it. Not sure whats wrong
You want to use RGB High for correct SDR video output. YCBCR with Apple will cause a Green tint to the greyscale and this is immediately seen when switching from one output to the other. I will only use YCBCR for clients if the video chain does not allow for RGB.
@@Audioholics I work as a professional calibrator in Hollywood. I’m not surprised that you haven’t heard this, but it’s measurable and verifiable truth.
I agree here watching the Vikings Packers game here and the green was not right until I tried the RGB setting he recommended. I am on the 2021 Apple TV 4K with a lg g2 set.
Just to add, the ATV sends what it is given. So this is app or provider driven. I set mine to automatic, which will send best given. If I want to bring it down to less than, I adjust the AVR audio.
@@mongo2044 Here is an example....Netfllix audio is Dolby Digital 5.1. The Apple TV takes that signal and converts it to Multichannel PCM. The Shield doesn't touch the audio signal and sends it to the AVR as Dolby Digital 5.1. If you are using Plex and streaming an Atmos movie, Apple TV will convert it to Multichannel 7.1 and lose the Atmos. The Shield keeps your signal "as is" and leaves it up to your AVR to decode.
Hello sir, I’m in the process of watching your video and on the part when you start discussing changing the audio output format to Dolby Atmos, would the same apply to me if, OK, being that my 4K TV and my 3.1(now 5.1 with the optional rear wireless surround kit) soundbar is not Dolby Atmos compatible and I think the only best sound formats it will work with is Dolby digital and DTS so on that very same setting of my Apple TV, would it benefit me to just leave the output audio settings set to the default LPCM or should I change that to straight up Dolby digital 5.1? I keep hearing mixed information on that. But I will say, though, leaving that setting to LPCM seems to do just fine because being that I have my sound bar connected to my TV via HDMI arc, If I’m streaming something on my Apple TV that’s being presented in Dolby Digital, my TV will automatically change it’s output, audio format to the sound bar from PCM to Dolby digital and then if I start watching some thing that’s not being presented in Dolby Digital, the TV will once again change it’s output audio format to the sound bar from Dolby Digital back to PCM….. Thanks
Setting Chroma 4:4:4 only seems to affect the menus. If I set 4:2:0 that's what I get in the menus, then when I play something in 4K SDR (my display won't do HDR) I find the chroma is being output as 4:4:4. Apple TV seems to ignore about half the settings half the time.
Thanks a lot Gene. I was surprised to see that input/output information that you showed in your video. I bought the Anthem MRX-1140 that you reviewed, I was wondering if you've been able to get that information and how ? Thanks again. I can't wait to watch Last of us tonight.
FYI. Myself and many others have experienced audio sync issues with Apple TV and some streaming apps. The answer seems to be switch Match Frame Rate to “off”. A bummer given this degrades video quality somewhat on non-60htz material such as films shot at 24 frames per second.
Yeah I’m experiencing this issue with my brand new 3rd gen. if I turn match frame rate OFF, it resolves the audio delay, but introduces an annoying, inconsistent judder in the picture. Keeping it ON removes the judder, but then I get the audio sync issue. No idea how to resolve it…
AppleTV 4K Settings
•Format: 4K SDR 50 or 60Hz
•HDMI Output: YCbCr
•Chroma: 4:4:4 (if you have sufficient bandwidth)
•Match Content: Dynamic Range and Frame Rate
•Audio: Change Format Off; Dolby Atmos On
Thank you
Thanks Gene, really helpful. One additional tip is to make sure ‘Reduce loud sounds’ is set to ‘No’ in the audio settings, to maintain full dynamic range.
There are also settings in the ‘App settings’ for Music where you can switch to lossless and Dolby Atmos as automatic.
I wish Apple put that on the slide out screen that users access any time (I forget what that is called). So then, if you live in an apartment, don't want to wake the kids or just want to have a less booming experience, you can turn on reduce bass quickly.
Such an amazing video
I set it up with my iPhone. The Apple TV asked “Home or My Home”? Which should I choose Home or My Home? Great video!
I just got the latest 128Gb version for Christmas. I just upgraded from the 2017 4K version. Apple did a great job of keeping the older versions up to date. The only difference I noticed between the two is when watching TH-cam in 4K 60fps. The older version would down scale to 1440p 60fps.
This helped with making my SDR content look tremendously better. No more color banding and colors really pop on my Epson 5040UB. Thank you Gene and team!
If I only have a 5.1 setup, is there an advantage to using Dolby Atmos or should I just keep it at Change Format and choice Dolby Digital? Thanks!
Thanks Gene, your video here has solved the mystery for me! Why did my AppleTV -> Denon 4400H -> HiSense HDR10 TV always look so darned washed out when I "correctly" set up the Apple TV to output "4K HDR". I found out by trial-and-error that my picture just looked so much better when I set the Apple TV to "4K SDR" (and yes, I still had Match Frame Rate and Match Dynamic Range both set to on), but I couldn't figure out why, and it's bugged me until today. Your great video here has both solved the mystery for me, and confirmed that the reason everything just looks so much better is because Apple TV is now properly sending SDR content as SDR, and not washing it out in with an HDR signal, and yet also automatically changing up to HDR when the source content requires.
My flawed understanding was that I should set the TV setting to "4K HDR" and that "Match Dynamic Range" would cause the Apple TV to correctly downscale to SDR when needed - but that's not what happens. We need to set the TV setting to "4K SDR" and then "Match Dynamic Range" would cause the Apple TV to upscale to HDR when needed. Apple could certainly improve their UI to provide better guidance, IMHO. Thank you again!!!
Are you sure about this? If it’s setup at match content range and frame, why wouldn’t you enable HDR? I would think that Apple TV would know of native content is in SDR then it would match content and not upscale.
Great information, thanks! I do have a gen-3 Apple TV 4K, which I love, but I do have a question. I don't yet have an Atmos receiver, though I plan to get one. With a standard stereo setup, should I disable Dolby Atmos in the audio settings, or does Apple TV automatically down-convert the audio to match the current system setup? Cheers!
Should I connect the Apple TV 4K device into my TV HDMI or to my Denon 3600H receiver HDMI? Thanks for the video!
Please, if you going to suggest settings please take the time to explain why not choose the other options. For example, on Format, why not RGB HIGH OR LOW, when I can clearly see more specular highlights details when on RGB HIGH.
RGB Low corresponds to the full 0-255 range, while high is 16-235 right?
At least that’s what my LG C2 is showing when I swap between them on the ATV then the LG.
I say that to say, wouldn’t RGB low give technically better results for you if your tv supports it?
Helpful video however, you glossed over connecting the Apple TV........why connect it to the AVR instead of the TV and use eARC back to the AVR? IF you connect it to the AVR....where? and then where does the AVR connect on the TV?
Follow up: I'm connected to TV (Sony 950H) and using eARC to AVR. It seems to work fine.....am I losing quality.... either audio or video?
great video...not sure though if I am doing something wrong, but I don't see 60hz whenI press info on my remote for the receiver, I see atoms, but only 4k 30 hz, I know my tv has 4k 60 hertz
but boy it sure does sound and look good, the dolby vision notification does pop up now when entering a movie that has it
thanks
Totally agree! AppleMusic with lossless spatial audio through a Dolby Atmos system is truly awesome! While it is not true to original 2 channel stuff (which is closest to original sound in a hall or club), it’s like you are in the middle of the music swimming in it. It’s on a different level from 2channel type stuff
How would you rate out of 10 the blueray Atmos mix of Hanns Zimmers live in Prague ? Trying to get a reference point of what constitutes a "good mix" thanks
If you understand how Atmos music is mixed, you will realize that it can be MORE like the real thing. Think of two channel as trying to put a gallon of milk in a quart bottle. Atmos breaks free from that limitation and allows each instrument to occupy its own spot in the performance space. Ringo’s drums can now be heard. The suppressed solo of a voice or a piano now has more detail. Keep in mind, above is with a true Atmos system. Not Spatial via headphones. Gene did a video all about this in 2022.
@@mongo2044 For myself my love of music grew while being part of orchestras, bands, etc… rather than sitting in the audience listening to it. So yeh, spatial audio is like being part of the band again - it’s how I relate to it. But that’s me. And also, a big YES to giving each instrument its own voice! 👍👍👍
Here is that video: th-cam.com/video/ZyoXdgcmOa0/w-d-xo.html
The Atmos is not lossless.
Thanks for another informative video, Gene! I have a Sony A80J and Denon X4700H AVR. My TV has all the streaming services built in. Would the sound and picture quality improve if I also got the Apple TV. I primarily stream Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Apple TV+. I am new to this and do not fully understand how this technology works. Thanks again!
Love when Gene goes back to basics.
Dolby atmos / Spatial Audio music worked out of the box for me with the latest software update they have on there. Yet to check HD as I don’t have a 4K tv yet.
I wonder if you would consider doing Roku version of this video.
Nice video, Gene! Very helpful for all Apple TV owners. I have used these settings myself for a couple years now. Have you tried any of the new features that Apple has added like the ability to do calibration of the TV with your phone camera and all of that? Any thoughts on how good that is or if it works?
I have my ATV4k going into a Denon x2700h to a Sony X95h. Sometimes the picture cuts out and goes to a black screen while watching a program. You have to go back out and restart/replay the program to get the picture back. From my testing I think it is an issue with my Denon receiver. Have you seen this happen with your x3800h? Thanks!
I had a similar issue with a new Roku Ultra running through a Denon AVR with EARC to my Sony A8H OLED. I fixed it by installing 48 Gbps rated HDMI cables.
@@jamestapscott9400 Thanks for the reply! I’m also connected to the EARC HDMI input on the TV. My cables are supposed to be rated for that but worth a shot at swapping them out I suppose. Cheaper than a new AVR or TV, right? The family really gets annoyed when it blanks out in the middle of a show, lol.
My one year old HDMI cables were supposedly able to pass Dolby Vision. So, the issue with audio/no video occurred when attempting to stream DV video on a 2021 Roku Ultra. DV worked on the Sony X800M2, so I did not think cables were the issue.
I was very frustrated. After several hours of combing AV forums, I broke down and ordered new cables. I installed Zeskit Lite 48 Gbps Slim Ultra High Speed HDMI 3 and 5 foot cables.
Some owners of the X95H reported random EARC issues. I would check the HDMI settings on the Sony and Denon. Ensure they are set to Enhanced. Also, check for updates.
The Apple calibration is rather crude. I was not impressed at all with what it did to the almost already calibrated picture I had on my Oled TVs. It emphasized green a lot. It was just wrong!
@@jamestapscott9400 thanks again! Glad the new cables worked for you. I have some Pacroban cables rated for 48gbps installed but maybe one has an issue, worth a swap to see. Those enhanced settings are key, too. Especially in this case with DV or setting the ATV to chroma 4:4:4. The Sony tv requires enhanced for that.
My MRX 1140 keeps showing multi PCM if it’s not atmos. What does that mean ?
That’s pretty cool. I was just looking for a way to have my sound bar. Turn on whenever my TV turns on since it doesn’t turn on after I install the Apple TV.
Thank you for the tips on the settings on ATV, but what about on the AVR? What sound and video settings should I set there? Pure? Direct? Dolby….
Hi This was really helpful. I set my Samsung TV to your settings. I don't have Dolby Atmos on my Soundbar. Is it a good idea to set it to Auto or Dolby 5.1 surround?
Thank you I had multiple settings wrong for years . Randomly came across this video and now I know .
What about audio mode, auto or 16 bit? I have always wondered.
Always been an android person but you mentioned the atmos music app on Apple so many times I thought I need to try. I ordered from Amazon today. Will be here tomorrow. Will come back here when i am setting it up thanks.
Thanks for the help, disney + won't auto switch to dolby vision for some reason
Thanks Gene, as always is great to have the support and suggestions from specialist like you, But what about the TV´s that automatic select the best output format? especially uf I have disable Dolby Visión or HDR disable, because I enable SDR format as you suggest. Thanks again and keep watching and listening. This is Paco from Mexico
Try the RGB option for full catalogue of colours (0 - 255) that surpasses 4.4.4
agree ,the ycbr give a blue tint on oled ,calibration look bad on ycbr
Hi,
Would like to say a big thank you for set up of Apple 4K, since taking your direction on setup I have found that TH-cam is not buffering between adverts/commercials while watching videos.
This was caused by setting the Apple to 4K HDR 50/60hz and was frustrating me for months, so once again a big thank you.
If you have a video on how to set up the best Dolby Atmos on a Yamaha RX-A3080 with a 5.1.4 Dolby Atmos setup I would be very pleased to watch and learn and have my system sounding just like it should.
Once again thank you and have a wonderful New Year.
Thank you. Could you plz advise how to set it up for Sony HT-A9 ?
Thanks a lot!! This was what I needed, no more oversaturated cover art in Plex, perfect playback in 1080p, 2160 4k HDR or Dolby vision ... I almost threw out the ATV
Might be a dumb question if you have Apple TV built in to your tsp
You still recommend having the separate Apple TV unit?
Gene, thanks for the tip about using SDR 4K rather than HDR 4K. Using the latter setting always makes black and white TV shows look bizarre when I am using Plex. Actually, I prefer my nVIDIA Shield, but now my first generation Apple TV 4K will be more useful.
isn't there an automatic mode and Auto Frame rate should also be there
I'm comparing apple tv to shield. What did you prefer the shield?
@@Andersljungberg Yes, the Apple TV setting matches the content’s format. So it makes no sense to use SDR over Dolby Atmos if you have a high end TV that supports it. There’s too much ignorance on this topic. 4K Dolby atmos will have your screen savers and Apple menus at 4K Dolby atmos at all times. Then it will match the format for whatever content you’re watching. WHY downgrade to SDR for the screensavers and menu? Seems dumb to me
Hello Sir I want to say thank you I love your show it very informative! My question to you is I’m about to pull the trigger and upgrade to a S95C tv and my concern is that my AVR Denon 4500H will it be compatible? It’ll be hooked up alone just for audio I’m currently running a 7.1.4 will it work or do I need to upgrade my AVR?
I learned a lot, Thanks ! On my Marantz 7015, with Apple 4k Box set to SDR, is RGB the same as 4:4:4 ?
Very good good stuff thank you this was something I really needed to know thank you
Thanks Gene, Happy New Year to you and your family. Have swapped over to Apple tv/Apple Music coz of you. Really enjoying the Atmos mixes. Only problem is now i wanna upgrade my surrounds!
With the audio if you only have Dolby 5.1 should you still turn audio off and select that? Apple says you will lose your surround sound when you turn auto off
I think automatic mode should work and streaming services can of course stream their material with several different frame frequencies . Surely the best thing should be for Apple TV to send in the same frame rate that the streamed material contains
Just a quick personal anecdote regarding settings - with Match Content turned on the TH-cam app within an Apple TV 4K device becomes useles for many people. Apparently there's a difference between formats on content and ads, and Apple TV / receivers can't keep up with all of the switching. I've experienced this and seen it discussed across forums, with owners of a variety of tvs and receiver combos.. Ultimately I had to turn off Match Content, or only use TH-cam app directly installed in my physical tv's operating system and not via Apple TV device. My personal equipment: TCL Roku Class 5 65-inch & Yamaha TSR-700 - Apple TV 4K 3rd Gen. All the best in 2023!
Your tuff man Gene! Making ur brother wait until you released this video to get his info!!
In the middle of watching the Expanse on Amazon. Picture and sound is on point. Sci fi science is decent
Great video. I would like my Trinnov to do the processing and not the Apple TV unit. Is this possible as all I see are apCM settings and not bitstream 🤔
Hi Gene, I am debating whether to buy Apple TV which is just a player or a Mac mini which is a full fledged computer and can do lot more than just playing media. In my AV journey of 25 years I have seen many “media players” becoming redundant but a computer can remain useful way beyond that.
The question that I have is can I get the same feature as Apple TV? Will I get Dolby Atmos out from its HDMI port? And lossless audio in similar way? Or will I have to stick to Apple TV for this?
We have Apple Store recently opened in my city but I don’t think those folks can answer such questions authoritatively.
Thanks in advance.
Pushkar
Do you recommend using an audio extractor like OREI 429 to try to get Atmos to work off a tv that has only arc but soundbar has earc capabilities?
Thanks Gene for the informative video. I've been watching Apple TV on my JVC RS-2000 projector, and after following your recommendation to switch to SDR settings, I've noticed much better contrast and color saturation on the Apple TV main screen, where all the apps are displayed. It's very interesting.
Do you know why HDR is not available on the prime video app when watching through Apple TV? I've noticed that all the HDR movies are presented in SDR. Is this perhaps an app problem on Apple TV? I was just wondering if you have any information on this issue.
All the best!
wow I didn't realize that but will check it out. thanks
I had to turn off Match DynamicRange when watching Amazon Prime Video. The screen would turn black if I left it on.
I just like to say a very big thank you this is made a big difference to my Apple 4K TV watching this video I had it all set up wrong and now everything is going great thank you very much
Thanks Gene, when setting mine up it didn’t switch to HDR or DV after being set at 4K SDR. Any ideas?
12:49 I knew I set this thing up right. Those are my exact settings. I had mess around with for a little while, but this is the end result for my setup.
After going back-and-forth a bit, I found that I prefer to change the audio format to Dolby Digital 5.1 and then I just have my receiver set as always to up-mix to the height channels. The settings are very deceiving. Typically for as long as I can remember your options are to bitstream out or convert to linear PCM. This device reads as though PCM is normal or you’re converting to Dolby digital. Confusing 🤔
I feel like they configure these to be connected to TVs so you would want to have the two channel PCM option be default.
Have you experienced no sound on prime and Netflix with non atmos audio, when atmos is on in settings? I have to go into setting and turn off atmos to get sound
Great video. ? I have a room that’s about 12x26. I’m looking to a subwoofer. My budget is $2,000 can recommend one for me. I would like to go with 2 but not sure at the budget I can at the moment
Thank you
Very helpful video! The atmos now sounds incredible 😎 Thanks for the video Gene
I’ve been impressed with the implementation of Atmos music with the Apple TV. Very nice for those of us with home theaters.
Love everything about this channel, except for the intro music. Any chance you could lower the volume or find something less jarring? It blows out my ear drums every time. Keep up the good work and happy new year.
I agree. I asked the person who made that bumper to lower the level on it but had little success. I may redesign it. It's jarring to me as well. 😆
@@Audioholics Thanks Gene!
If I have a non Dolby Atmos soundbar, should I set the audio to change format “on” and select Dolby Digital 5.1 or leave change format to off?
Do you need to turn on Dolby on even if you don’t have the extra speakers or even receiver with Dolby atmos?
But I have heard that Apple TV has Auto Frame rate. which is based on the stream material's images per second. Shouldn't it also be able to automatically select the right type of HDR that the stream contains?
It does
Great video Gene. One more consideration for next time is to speak to the Apples support of HDR10+. There is actually a growing amount of content in this newer dynamic HDR format. It is only supported on the Gen 3 Apple TV and does require the AVR support of HDMI 2.1. I just upgraded my Denon 8500H with the new 8K board.
My Apple TV always lagges when I use dolby atmos sometimes I don’t get it and I have the best internet connection
Nice clear explanation of what setting to use and why - some of them counter intuitive for me - this is a good help. thanks
Sir, i am in India. I am also using Apple tv. Settings doubts clarified by u. Excellent review 🙏🙏👏👏
Do you have a video like this for the Nvidia Shield?
@@wilson8378 anything for video? HDR and things?
Does this make the shield better or worse than the apple? The apple setup looked really complicated
Great Vid Gene. "Audioholic" or not, your video suggestions are right on. This video took a page right out of my brain. Keep up the video suggestions, always like hearing what you have to say.
I noticed when steaming out of my TV. The audio is very weak . Going into my surround sound system. Especially with HBO Max. Would something like apple TV. Solve that issue and give me stronger audio ?
Is it normal that LGC1 doesn’t give any notification for ULTRA HD 4K content, like it does with Dolby Vision? With these exact settings.
Hi Gene, why is no one talking about getting DTS audio, and it's source. Also I'm unable to pass-through DTS to my receiver from my samsung TV while my content is stored in plex server.
What does it mean if I had the blinking and 1 second black outs when I was on HDR and after switching to SDR it was no longer doing that and worked smoothly. Is that a cable issue?
Simple solution that provided a great audio video experience out from my Apple TV
Don’t forget to turn on CEC so that your Apple tv can wake other devices, automatically switch inputs, and also control the volume of the attached receiver with the volume buttons on the Apple tv remote. CEC has to be enabled on both devices. My apple tv volume control was not configured completely by default, took an extra step of selecting REMOTES AND DEVICES > Control TV’s and Receivers (ON) > Volume Control (auto via HDMi{receiver}). In this case the “receiver” was a soundbar, and this is probably the setting of choice for any intermediary audio device between the apple tv and the display.
I’ll also add my settings for use on my ancient 2008 LCD tv, in the video options of apple tv, everything in “match content” is turned off. Because sometimes when matching hdr content it washes out the picture. I’ve seen several setup guides advocating turning them on, but allot of these settings exist for specific use cases with various hardware and aren’t always universally recommended.
Notice the Marantz font color changes depending on SDR/HDR/DV. The standard font color is used for SDR, orange for HDR, and green for DV. The OSD color will reflect which format is being decoded (change volume for example while watching).
Thanks very much for this, cheers from Australia
I just picked up an Apple TV 4K latest model, so this content is greatly appreciated. Also picked up the Yamaha RX A6A receiver yesterday evening, so I’m going to have some fun.
Hey Gene. I have a few questions. I stream vía my LG C9.
1) Is there a big difference in picture and audio quality between streaming within the TV’s apps vs Apple TV to justify buying one?
2) I own a denon x4700h. Will the Apple TV allow me to upmix content with dtsX &/or auro 3d?
3) if I were to buy one, should I connect the device straight to the tv or AVR?
Thanks!
Curious what you think the TV audio settings should be for the HDMI input ...bitstream or PCM? I'm using two HomePods in left and right configuration.
So do you have the ATV4K hooked directly to the receiver or the tv? If receiver is it in the eARC port or any HDMI port and how do you hook to the tv? Is it via an HDMI output to the tv?
This was very helpful…just updated the settings on both my Apple TVs. Thanks Gene!!
Are your setting screens the same for newer ATV models?
I’m wondering why there’s a 1080p Dolby vision option, but 4k just says HDR. Does that mean it doesn’t think the tv/rcvr supports Dolby vision? I definitely get it show on my tv on discs played on my Oppo.
Can people mention some streaming movies that definitively work? I wonder if they show it on the movie title page but not really streamed with it. I know prime doesn’t support Dolby vision and does hdr10+ now and I think you need premium subscription on Netflix.
Can i use 9.1 setup with the Apple tv? Got marantz sr7011 with all 11 speakers on and 2 subwoofer
Mr. DellaSalla,
I've been wanting one of the Apple TV units sense you first spoke of them, but I wonder how would it benefit my system. I'm just a nearly flat broke bugger and I only have an older Onkyo 5.1.2 and an old Sharp Aqous 70" 1080P.
Thanks a million for all that you do and I wish you and yours all of the very best in the new year!
I love my Apple TV. I hook it using a pair of HomePods and for a small room it does an amazing job for Atmos. And music is great.
We’re not paying for 4K Netflix but this is very helpful
I don't have a surround set up I just use Kef q950 as mains in a stereo set up. Yeah I was shocked at the sound in Wednesday
What hdmi cable do you suggest from your Apple TV to marantz sr5013 and from marantz av receiver to epson tw5650?
Great timing! I just bough an Apple TV over the Christmas break. I love the user experience. It's the perfect combination of Apple ease of use and geeky setup options such as the ability to match content.
Sadly, my Marantz 7702 doesn't support HDR. I either need a workaround or a new processor.
How bad would a Receiver with pre-outs be? I really don't want to spend $3000 on a Processor that will become outdated in a few years because of some new HDMI standard.
Have anyone found a fix for the audio out of sync with Apple TV yet?
same problem atv4k > denon > sony tv audio with match framerate out of sync, disable match framerate, perfect in sync audio
can you share the video of the set up
Hello can I ask You 1 question:)? I have the apple 4k tv box, denon avr x1700h with a samsung qled TV. 5.1 serup with kef q750 and rel 1205 II. I don’t understand why the avr shows multi in when playing mostly everything? Why not dolby dig + D sorround? What multi in means? Regards great chanel
Thanks for the guide. I tried these on my Apple tv connected to Yamaha tsr-700 which connects to TCL tv. When content changes from Dolby vision to SDR whole screen gets a purple filter on it. Not sure whats wrong
Unplug it all then back in and power up in sequence (ref. Yamaha manual) so the HDMI ecosystem has the cob webs removed and see if that fixes it.
Does wanting HDR10+ for Samsung TV's change any of these settings?
What about color balance using iphone
You want to use RGB High for correct SDR video output.
YCBCR with Apple will cause a Green tint to the greyscale and this is immediately seen when switching from one output to the other.
I will only use YCBCR for clients if the video chain does not allow for RGB.
I never heard of this, nor have I seen this problem.
@@Audioholics I work as a professional calibrator in Hollywood. I’m not surprised that you haven’t heard this, but it’s measurable and verifiable truth.
@@JumpRopeLift thanks, I will look into it.
I agree here watching the Vikings Packers game here and the green was not right until I tried the RGB setting he recommended. I am on the 2021 Apple TV 4K with a lg g2 set.
@Dave Derrig my contact at HBO says this appears to be an issue with AppleTV gen2 only. But more testing is needed to confirm if Gen3 is affected.
Apple doesn’t do passthru audio. I added an Nvidia Shield and it does it all. I have both and prefer the Shield.
I thought it was the AVR setting that dictated what it got? My ATV 4K seems to be sending PCM to my AVR OK.
Just to add, the ATV sends what it is given. So this is app or provider driven. I set mine to automatic, which will send best given. If I want to bring it down to less than, I adjust the AVR audio.
@@mongo2044 Here is an example....Netfllix audio is Dolby Digital 5.1. The Apple TV takes that signal and converts it to Multichannel PCM. The Shield doesn't touch the audio signal and sends it to the AVR as Dolby Digital 5.1.
If you are using Plex and streaming an Atmos movie, Apple TV will convert it to Multichannel 7.1 and lose the Atmos. The Shield keeps your signal "as is" and leaves it up to your AVR to decode.
Hello sir, I’m in the process of watching your video and on the part when you start discussing changing the audio output format to Dolby Atmos, would the same apply to me if, OK, being that my 4K TV and my 3.1(now 5.1 with the optional rear wireless surround kit) soundbar is not Dolby Atmos compatible and I think the only best sound formats it will work with is Dolby digital and DTS so on that very same setting of my Apple TV, would it benefit me to just leave the output audio settings set to the default LPCM or should I change that to straight up Dolby digital 5.1? I keep hearing mixed information on that. But I will say, though, leaving that setting to LPCM seems to do just fine because being that I have my sound bar connected to my TV via HDMI arc, If I’m streaming something on my Apple TV that’s being presented in Dolby Digital, my TV will automatically change it’s output, audio format to the sound bar from PCM to Dolby digital and then if I start watching some thing that’s not being presented in Dolby Digital, the TV will once again change it’s output audio format to the sound bar from Dolby Digital back to PCM….. Thanks
Depending on the region you live in (america, europe, far east) all of these settings change. some options are not even visible in your region.
Setting Chroma 4:4:4 only seems to affect the menus. If I set 4:2:0 that's what I get in the menus, then when I play something in 4K SDR (my display won't do HDR) I find the chroma is being output as 4:4:4. Apple TV seems to ignore about half the settings half the time.
RGB 8bit is tv-led Dolby vision. Player-led Dolby Vision is YCbCr 12bit. The tv processing the Dolby Vision will yield better picture quality.
Thanks a lot Gene. I was surprised to see that input/output information that you showed in your video. I bought the Anthem MRX-1140 that you reviewed, I was wondering if you've been able to get that information and how ? Thanks again. I can't wait to watch Last of us tonight.
FYI. Myself and many others have experienced audio sync issues with Apple TV and some streaming apps. The answer seems to be switch Match Frame Rate to “off”. A bummer given this degrades video quality somewhat on non-60htz material such as films shot at 24 frames per second.
Yeah I’m experiencing this issue with my brand new 3rd gen. if I turn match frame rate OFF, it resolves the audio delay, but introduces an annoying, inconsistent judder in the picture. Keeping it ON removes the judder, but then I get the audio sync issue. No idea how to resolve it…