I’m my opinion, Curry became what Durant could have been. I think we all expected Durant to have the career Curry has. Loved by everyone ( Before leaving OKC everyone loved him ) a bunch of rings ( That team with Westbrook was always competitive and even made it to the finals, almost beat GSW in their 73 win season etc.
He did have a chance. I literally said during his MVP run why not. Why can’t this guy be the best to ever do it. I was amazed at how he played that season. It’s unfortunate. Bad teammates, injuries, and bad decisions limited his career. Still a top 15 player with a chance to rise but top 5 is likely out of the picture.
This video made me tear up man. There were times in my life where I didnt even want to get out of bed but knowing that KD had a game that day motivated me to get up. His passion, his work ethic, his compassion and selflessness in how he plays the game. Special
In the goat convo or not, I still enjoy watching Durant play. He still has 2, maybe 3 years of elite basketball in him. Hope he wins a chip as the main guy before he retires.
honestly if KD would have done it the right way he would be looked at much more highly now. just look at how ppl treat Kawhi vs KD. and Kawhi only had one run as the man where he led a team to the championship and he was talked about like he was Jordan in 2019. its since died down bc of injuries but when hes healthy he still commands a great deal of respect and every now and then you can feel that jordan aura (like the first two games in round 1 vs phx last year). if KD just stayed in OKC or signed with literally any other team in 2016 and won even just one championship, which he definitely would have won at least one from 2017-2019 then he would be respected so much more now with his two GSW rings.
the thing with kawhi that helps is he absolutely hates superteams, he may not love playing the game as much as KD, but he wouldn't do things as despicable as KD would, especially forming his own superteam, I wish to this day KD won with OKC in 2016, it was so close, it would have changed the way basketball today is played
He was still on timing up until 2016 where he blew that 3-1 lead vs the 73-9 warriors. Imagine he won against Curry and then beat Prime Lebron, that would have KD in the could-be goat discussion
When I saw KD playing in his early days I was like this guy is the most gifted scorer I ever seen. Super long , smooth jumper, scoring anywhere on the floor, super quick and had amazing ball handling etc . We would be debating about if KD in goat discussion right now if he had the mentality of jordan/Kobe
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I mean mans was about to go 3 for 3 with golden state. His 1st real szn with the Nets - he almost took down the soon to be champs without Kyrie or Harden not playing the last three games. He's special but he's got a lot of time left
“Without Kyrie or Harden”….. 😂 just listen to that my guy. 💀Insane without KYRIE or HARDEN? Bruh… EVERYBODY is without kyrie and harden😂 that’s not normal….? Or super impressive? The team starting 5 was mostly top hall of famers… take some away and they’re almost a normal team… and still 😅 We’re saying “almost”… he almost did something… with that lineup… like that was chip or bust. 😂
Respect to the clippers man. They right they couldn’t guard him, but they also had to worry about to of the best shooters to ever live at the same time
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There'll forever be a debate of who was more unlucky. Bron for being drafted by cavs, or KD for getting left with Westbrook a player that can never play winning winninfull basketball
If u think he couldnt be da goat just look at them stats when he was 20 man was shooting 42 percent from 3 is crazy especially b4 curry changed the game
Great video for a great player and an even greater prospect. To tell a little story myself, I first saw KD with the US national team early in his career with Russ etc and first, I noticed his name had an elegant ring to it and then that all those young players were very very talented, D-Rose etc. Great generation. A couple years later, I would still hear his name, without really following the NBA and I saw an interview of his, stating by himself that his ultimate goal is to be ''the best ever''. I was like: ''Is he reallysaying that? Is he crazy? After Jordan, after Kobe etc". But it made an impression on me, that this fairly young player, who obviously had a hype around him believed that he was coming for them. So all of the following years, it was obvious he was backing it up, it was obvious he meant it and definitely became my favourite new player, 'cause of his game and what he could do. All up to to those Conference finals against the Warriors. I again wasn't following the NBA too closely but I knew what these new Warriors and the new kids' favorite, Steph Currry, were doing, so to see the Durant-led OKC having them on the ropes was a confirmation for me and for everybody that they and he had arrived. I could already see them becoming a household franchise, becoming established like the Bulls and making that nice blue jersey a favorite one. I don't know exactly what went south from there, but I mean, KD I gues became much more calculative after that, made his choices mainly for post-career-fame reasons and while he of course is a magnificent fantastic player, the fact that he is calculating every move since then based on what results it is going to give him and how much ''easier'' it is going to be for him to win (of course contributing greatly) has been a kid of a turn off, and finally a reason to not consider him one of the 4 - 5 greatest players. At least, not yp to this point. Still a great great player. Great video, again. Thanks.
Goofy ahh mfkers he’s still a top player. Y’all just mad because he went with a wining team while you bums were doing the same but couldn’t pull it off
Still Nobody can score like KD. I love Jordan but he damn sure ain’t pullin up from 30 with no hesitation like Durant and don’t even get me started on the middy as lethal as Jordan was he wasn’t efficient like How Kd is, Kd really out here gettin 40 points on 15-20 shots that’s not easy my guy. Even then you got a Player with legit center height, Ball handling skills of a Point Guard, and he shoots lights out like he’s a Shooting Guard. Accolades or not who’s Stopping that? Cmon mane put some respect on Kevin Durant 💯
Jordan is 1st all time in PPG and PER in the regular season and playoffs. The most efficient scorer of all time in a much lower scoring era. Durant is 9th in PER and 6th in PPG. Certainly elite but there is no case to be made for him being a better or more efficient scorer than jordan.
Yeah against celtics not against bron and kyrie, that was clear years before, also if that would be true then why was curry draymond and klay getting their private jets ready to fly out to kd and convince him?
I don't see how joining the warriors is a bad decision, it certainly damaged his legacy but he won 2 rings and 2 final mvps and got to play some of the greatest basketball we've ever seen. He got to be apart of a dynasty and knowing him he treasures quality of basketball above all else and joining the warriors satisfied that desire.
How? He doesn't have good enough defense to ever get to the top 5. Jordan was a slightly better scorer, and a way better defender, and he doesn't have the playmaking skills to make up for it. Same thign with lebron. Offensively KD is a better scorer, but he isn't as good of a playmaker and not near dpoy level lebron. Obviously he's super underrated, but that's too far.
I'm a huge LeBron fan but this guy is the number 1 talent EVER. He checks all the attributes a player needs with crazy size and reach, his defense is underrated AF and no one can guard him. That GSW move was bad for us the viewers, thank God for that draymond fight because, how many rings could've curry and Durant won together?
Bro when I seen KD play at Texas I told all my homies. “ He’s gonna be better than Jordan.. he’s too nice” I was watching him play the other night he’s just an amazing basketball player. Ik technically #’s wise Jokic is the best but there’s only 1 KD man . Skill off the charts!
Same here.. i did think he will be the next one to dominate.. in his best year he's arguably on par if not slightly above Lebron.. i was thinking he will inherit the league from lebron its only a matter of time
KDs individual play and longevity has been plenty to be considered in the GOAT discussion with Lebron and MJ. People just don’t respect the move to golden state. If he wins in 2016 and beats the 73-9 warriors and then stays in OKC and wins a few more rings there, he would definitely be considered unanimous number 3 all time and in the GOAT discussion with Lebron and MJ. Outside of media narratives he is absolutely on par with Lebron and MJ. There was a time when Lebron was in his absolute prime that some analysts were saying KD was the better player.
Not enough on defense and too injury-prone, but i get the sentiment. I still half think if he got drafted to the Celtics he would've been a mega legend. Had some thin-skin moments though so maybe not. So talented.
The guy has proved time and time again, super team after super team, he can't win without Curry, Curry has a much better goat argument at this point and he's also definitely not the goat
KD has the mental fortitude of a child, did everyone legitimately think that someone who pretends to be a fan so he could reply to another fan about himself, is gonna have the mental fortitude or strength to break the top 5 NBA players? Too many youngsters forget that performance is as much mental as it is physical.
I don't know about the GOAT torch. That's Jordan's torch to hold until a worthy player comes along, goes through the grind, trials and tribulations and impresses the masses as a whole enough to get 60+ percent of fans to agree that he's the GOAT. However, the NBA face of the league torch is supposed to be passed on every 10-15 or so years from one or two players to the next one or two players. Which you could say was passed from Michael to Kobe/Duncan to LeBron or LeBron/Steph.
To me it’s always been a new face every 5 or so years where they share it first with the previous for a few years then with the next. Jordan came during and after magic/bird. Kobe/Duncan came during and after Jordan. Lebron came during/after Kobe/Duncan. Curry came during lebron (lebron ain’t done yet lmao)
@@GiovaniDeJesus not as face he isn’t. He might be out of the tip top player conversation but he’s the most famous player still playing without a doubt
Maybe this is off topic but I’m just glad you guys are calling it the Kobe/Duncan era. Because I swear Duncan never gets his dues, I always put Kobe and Duncan around the same place all time. Just like what other people do with Magic and Bird.
the jones fracture crippled his athleticism, he tore his achilles, countless mcl tears. Still here giving people buckets when most player's careers would be ended
The level of preparation is crazy “In 5 years” … “these names mean nothing to you now” Bro he was talking to a young NBA star about HS freshmen & sophomores or am I tripping cuz that’s wild lol
If KD had ignored the critics and just stayed in Golden State and came back from an Achillies injury and won 3 of the next 4 Championships he'd essentially be in the discussion. Think about it. The Warriors wouldn't have had KD or Klay the next season, they lost Steph to injury, they still got their top 3 pick. They'd have added that pick + Poole, Kuminga, etc etc etc Difference is they wouldn't have Wiggins they'd have KD, but they'd also have their draft picks. So essentially, Klay, Steph and KD would have returned the same season. If they kept winning Championships those following seasons? KD would be at 5 rings, Steph would be at 6. They'd be going for their 7th and 6th this season. But he went to Brooklyn instead, and we saw how that turned out. Legit think they'd have won the title the year Kyrie got hurt, but that's another What If. But KD in leaving and Steph winning a title without him has put Steph in the position KD would have been in as far as legacy goes if KD had stayed.
As a lebron fan, I will admit, ive NEVER, Been more afraid of another player than KEVIN DURANT in 2017 and 2018, curry may be a close 2nd, but I truly feared that man. Come crunch time I HATED and shook in my boots when he had the ball.
Not tryna hate but… At 9:02 that’s not even a playoff game.. pretty sure that was like opening night, I mean it literally says premiere week lol. And at 11:30 that’s an interview when Cleveland played GS in the finals not 2012.. Lebron talks about how they were one of the best teams ever the year before… Not hating but some stuff is inaccurate.
If curry even reaches the final it could be considered his league. 2015-2019 finals appearances, 2022 and imagine 2024. If he wins this year it’s his era. 5 rings like Kobe Tim Duncan 🫰🫰. Curry is a top 10 nba player ever!! Someone make room!!
curry is still one of the best players in the league rn, tho the rest of that warriors team is too painfully mediocre for them to realistically make another finals run
He is probably the GOAT of international competitions. Now, to be honest, I do think NBA rings are more important because it's a season long efforts and best of seven is much more objective than best of one, but he should get more love from people from the US. In any other country people would give him a statue and love him more than players who had very little interest for the national team, which is almost every other player from the US, but to be fair also most high profile player from any other country. I don't think KD should get a statue, but at least not as much hate. As far as his NBA career is concerned, I wonder if he stayed with Westbrook too long. He was in his prime before moving to GSW and while they were successful and Russ was pretty good, I wonder what could've been with a PG who has a good basketball IQ even if less athletic.
He still has it you making like he not is crazy a grown man can go too whatever and any team he wants I get that people get mad cause there team is trash back then I was a rockets fan I didn’t get mad like oh wow my team didn’t have a chance he a two time champion and he earned that a grown person making there own choice in life and not your choice if you want every one too be the same no
Kd is my goat if you take all the greats one on one Kd can cook them all. When it’s said and done you can’t say he doesn’t have rings. Yes it was the easy way out but he is what made them a lock and everyone knew it
My only issue with this is where you said "a ring is still a ring and kd has 2." That's the whole crux of the issue. He doesn't have two rings, or they're made of tin. The warriors were already the greatest regular season team of all time and then you go ahead and throw KD on top of them + they faced subpar competition in the finals in 2018 after the cavs had been gutted of talent post kyrie Irving trade. Of course those rings are less valuable, of course people criticize KD for choosing golden state of all teams to join. Of course he's looked at as less than Steph and Lebron since both those guys have one without a costar as good as KD. He's an incredible person and his MVP speech brings me to tears everytime but it's no question that he did irreparable damage to his legacy by joining golden state.
The NBA counts it as a legitimate championship so it is, no matter how anyone feels it’s in the record books. Facts and opinions because of feelings are two different things
I am not suggesting it isn't officially a championship in the record books. You're completely right. I am stating that in my opinion and in the opinions of MANY others they are very weak or damn near illegitimate championships because of how stacked the warriors were and the poor competition they faced in 2018 especially. I am quite literally stating my opinion based on how I feel about the situation was that not obvious?@@demetriousstephens1998
Yo. You make so much sense. Bill Russel has 11 rings. They are legitimite rings counted by NBA. So he the goat. MJ,Lebrom,KD,Steph all trash. Don't try to defend your opinions, because it is in the records. Do u see how stupid u sound? 😂@@demetriousstephens1998
By that logic we should also evaluate Robert Horry's rings the same way we evaluate Jordan's rings, which just doesn't add up. You might argue these are two different cases; however, I'd say there has to be contexts to championships and not in terms of numbers alone.
The goat contention probably won’t be breached, the only realistic contenders are Jordan and LeBron with a few honorable mentions like Magic, Kareem and Kobe. KD isn’t the goat not because he isn’t good but just because the peak was increased impossibly high by MJ and LeBron, I’ll put it like this there are realistically only 15 people EVER who have existed than can say that they’d have a worse career if they traded their career achievements in the NBA and to me that’s all you can really ask for, having your name cemented in history and forever remembered.
@@TheGrimFiend no ik but I’m talking about how he isn’t the GOAT but still is a legendary player and one of the greatest scorers to ever touch a basketball
I just thought about it but how much do players in the nba watch game film of other teams and players. In football it's every day during a week, but with how many games the nba has you have to do that nightly. I can tell kobe took his time, but he's an animal, literally the mamba, but how much do young players now a days do that is what I wonder because I don't hear them say stuff like that a lot in interviews or really ever
Until Durant wins a ring without chasing a superteam, he can have my respect. My man made the most cowardly decision in NBA History by joining the team he blew a 3-1 lead to.
Man kd better than lbj cause he went toe to toe with lbj and won two straight titles like he was the reason the gsw won them two back to back titles and he took the first one from the defending champions like stop the bs kd is a true beast and a top 5 all time mj is the goat
This just isn’t true… he realistically was never going to surpass MJ and the NBA world are generally idiots for the amount of criticism he got for being a good player joining a good team. He was the best player on that team remember. 2 finals MVPs would not be considered damaging to anyone else’s legacy.
I agree he was never gonna surpass MJ, but to be one of the best. He’s not top 10, and Curry was always the best player on GSW, he’s just selfless and gave the keys to his bus to KD. He proved he always was when he won the chip without him in ‘22.
Injuries. 2012 Thunder make the finals. Then thye make 2 franchise dooming moves. Trading Harden and Jeff Green. 2013 Westbrook is hurt roght before the postseason. Wouldve veen nice to have Harden. 2014 Westbrook out for season because pat Beverly. KD wins mvp. 2015 KD out for season. 2016 Thunder take 73 and 9 warriors 7 games and i think all nba fans agree westbrook and kd both choked. The Thunder had 2 healthy seasons in 5 years and both healthy seasons they were a top 3 team.
Correction, it went from Jordan’s league to Kobe’s league to Lebron. Idk why Lebron fans stay disrespecting Kobe’s legacy by intentionally excluding him from the goat conversation.
pls stop sayin book is that guy because of one playoff run, kd is averaging 31 on 50 48 90 shooting splits while book hasnt played and even when he does, kd is playin better rn, kd is still the best player on the suns and maybe book will be in the future
i think Durant is #3 all-time behind MJ & Olajuwon and ahead of Dr J at #4... all 4 are unguardable one-on-one scorers who can play offense & defense, halfcourt & fullcourt, at a high level... the all-around game combined with elite scoring makes these fellas the top 4 in history... fax!!!
#3 all time? and dr j at #4? terrible list, basketball is not a 1 on 1 game if you want to put kd #3 iso scorers then fine but all time? mj and hakeem were all time great defenders and kd has nowhere near the defensive presence they have
@@temporarybum in '14 the Thunder were 6th in Def Rating, then the next year Durant played 27 games and the Thunder fell to 16th in Def Rating... he averages 40.5 minutes per playoff game and gets 1 steal and 1 block and 7 Def Rebounds; while scoring 29.4ppg... he won 2 Finals MVP with Curry & James on the court... have you watched Dr J in the 1970s??? he didn't enter NBA until age 26 yet still averaged 1.7 steals and 1.7 blocks in playoffs, only someone like Olajuwon can excel at both... in '76 ABA Finals against 3 NBA all-stars (Thompson, Issel, BJones=top wing defender) Dr J averaged 38ppg-14boards-5assists... fax!!!
Goes to a championship team. Wins. Leaves team. The team wins another one after he leaves. That doesn’t happen to Kobe lebron or MJ. The teams they leave and retire from instantly are terrible
I’m my opinion, Curry became what Durant could have been. I think we all expected Durant to have the career Curry has. Loved by everyone ( Before leaving OKC everyone loved him ) a bunch of rings ( That team with Westbrook was always competitive and even made it to the finals, almost beat GSW in their 73 win season etc.
If they did not choke, specially durant, against GS in that conference finals, they could have won that year.
@@narumifujishima7504Cleveland would’ve sweep them.
I think KD could have gone to any team other than the warriors or the cavs and he would still be a well liked player but he chose the 2nd worst option
Don’t forget Durant beat Curry twice for the finals MVP while on the same team.
@@isnotworthitI think OKC would have swept the Cavs in 2016, the Cavs were the crappiest team sport to win a title total fluke.
That clip of Kobe breaking down his approach to guarding KD is such a treat to listen too.
He did have a chance. I literally said during his MVP run why not. Why can’t this guy be the best to ever do it. I was amazed at how he played that season. It’s unfortunate. Bad teammates, injuries, and bad decisions limited his career. Still a top 15 player with a chance to rise but top 5 is likely out of the picture.
What if he win 2 with suns
@@VinceBond-ky2zthe won’t be the guy , Booker would be
@@MrDiMES123are you crazy kd drop 40 last night he still can be that guy
@@MrDiMES123 crazy opinion to think thats not KDs team tbh lmao
@@steviegreenthumb4720Booker is better at this point in KD career
If Harden, Durant, and Westbrook had all stayed with the Thunder I think their careers would have gone much better with a lot more rings
Jordan sounded like he was bout to throw up trying to avoid saying Lebrons name😂
His hand was shaking it got tense lol
😂😂😂😂
@@devon9374 MJ is petty as hell if Lebron was better than him he would never admit it. MJ still the goat tho
@@user-ze2pm3pe2e cus bron doesnt have the offensive bag like himself or kobe
MJ coping so hard
This video made me tear up man. There were times in my life where I didnt even want to get out of bed but knowing that KD had a game that day motivated me to get up. His passion, his work ethic, his compassion and selflessness in how he plays the game. Special
glazing
Super glazing
Top tier glazing
What a psychotic thing to say.
jesus christ man what are you even saying
In the goat convo or not, I still enjoy watching Durant play. He still has 2, maybe 3 years of elite basketball in him. Hope he wins a chip as the main guy before he retires.
honestly if KD would have done it the right way he would be looked at much more highly now. just look at how ppl treat Kawhi vs KD. and Kawhi only had one run as the man where he led a team to the championship and he was talked about like he was Jordan in 2019. its since died down bc of injuries but when hes healthy he still commands a great deal of respect and every now and then you can feel that jordan aura (like the first two games in round 1 vs phx last year). if KD just stayed in OKC or signed with literally any other team in 2016 and won even just one championship, which he definitely would have won at least one from 2017-2019 then he would be respected so much more now with his two GSW rings.
the thing with kawhi that helps is he absolutely hates superteams, he may not love playing the game as much as KD, but he wouldn't do things as despicable as KD would, especially forming his own superteam, I wish to this day KD won with OKC in 2016, it was so close, it would have changed the way basketball today is played
He was still on timing up until 2016 where he blew that 3-1 lead vs the 73-9 warriors. Imagine he won against Curry and then beat Prime Lebron, that would have KD in the could-be goat discussion
@@simple45679Who was he teaming up with up to 2016?
@@cycleoflife565 huh what? He was drafted by OKC
@@theonlygoodonehere2259under rated comment bro
When I saw KD playing in his early days I was like this guy is the most gifted scorer I ever seen. Super long , smooth jumper, scoring anywhere on the floor, super quick and had amazing ball handling etc . We would be debating about if KD in goat discussion right now if he had the mentality of jordan/Kobe
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Thanks goat
I mean mans was about to go 3 for 3 with golden state. His 1st real szn with the Nets - he almost took down the soon to be champs without Kyrie or Harden not playing the last three games. He's special but he's got a lot of time left
If he had taken down giannis and won the chip, the convos would be NASTY
“Without Kyrie or Harden”….. 😂 just listen to that my guy. 💀Insane without KYRIE or HARDEN? Bruh… EVERYBODY is without kyrie and harden😂 that’s not normal….? Or super impressive? The team starting 5 was mostly top hall of famers… take some away and they’re almost a normal team… and still 😅 We’re saying “almost”… he almost did something… with that lineup… like that was chip or bust. 😂
@@sperez3275that net team didn’t have depth that’s why it’s without harden and Kyrie
Kd went 48 17 10 in game 5 of that series and went 49 9 8 in game 7 and would've been 50 9 8 if KD had gotten his toe behind the line
@@sperez3275 Now tell how many titles does LeBum have with Wade, Kyrie or AD 😂😂 everyone needs help to win you casual
Respect to the clippers man. They right they couldn’t guard him, but they also had to worry about to of the best shooters to ever live at the same time
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Thank you bro
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There'll forever be a debate of who was more unlucky. Bron for being drafted by cavs, or KD for getting left with Westbrook a player that can never play winning winninfull basketball
Such a phenomenal video, well done man
If u think he couldnt be da goat just look at them stats when he was 20 man was shooting 42 percent from 3 is crazy especially b4 curry changed the game
Great video for a great player and an even greater prospect.
To tell a little story myself, I first saw KD with the US national team early in his career with Russ etc and first, I noticed his name had an elegant ring to it and then that all those young players were very very talented, D-Rose etc. Great generation.
A couple years later, I would still hear his name, without really following the NBA and I saw an interview of his, stating by himself that his ultimate goal is to be ''the best ever''. I was like: ''Is he reallysaying that? Is he crazy? After Jordan, after Kobe etc". But it made an impression on me, that this fairly young player, who obviously had a hype around him believed that he was coming for them.
So all of the following years, it was obvious he was backing it up, it was obvious he meant it and definitely became my favourite new player, 'cause of his game and what he could do.
All up to to those Conference finals against the Warriors. I again wasn't following the NBA too closely but I knew what these new Warriors and the new kids' favorite, Steph Currry, were doing, so to see the Durant-led OKC having them on the ropes was a confirmation for me and for everybody that they and he had arrived. I could already see them becoming a household franchise, becoming established like the Bulls and making that nice blue jersey a favorite one. I don't know exactly what went south from there, but I mean, KD I gues became much more calculative after that, made his choices mainly for post-career-fame reasons and while he of course is a magnificent fantastic player, the fact that he is calculating every move since then based on what results it is going to give him and how much ''easier'' it is going to be for him to win (of course contributing greatly) has been a kid of a turn off, and finally a reason to not consider him one of the 4 - 5 greatest players. At least, not yp to this point. Still a great great player.
Great video, again. Thanks.
I almost forgot there was a time when he was the hero, not the villain.
Goofy ahh mfkers he’s still a top player. Y’all just mad because he went with a wining team while you bums were doing the same but couldn’t pull it off
KD is a superstar but since 2016 Steph has been at least on the same level
fire video, kevin durant has to be one of my favorite players ever and i just hope he doesn’t end his career unsatisfied
Still Nobody can score like KD. I love Jordan but he damn sure ain’t pullin up from 30 with no hesitation like Durant and don’t even get me started on the middy as lethal as Jordan was he wasn’t efficient like How Kd is, Kd really out here gettin 40 points on 15-20 shots that’s not easy my guy. Even then you got a Player with legit center height, Ball handling skills of a Point Guard, and he shoots lights out like he’s a Shooting Guard. Accolades or not who’s Stopping that? Cmon mane put some respect on Kevin Durant 💯
Jordan is 1st all time in PPG and PER in the regular season and playoffs. The most efficient scorer of all time in a much lower scoring era. Durant is 9th in PER and 6th in PPG. Certainly elite but there is no case to be made for him being a better or more efficient scorer than jordan.
KD Probably has my favourite game in the nba today
The KD goat debate ended when gsw proven they can win without KD
Yeah against celtics not against bron and kyrie, that was clear years before, also if that would be true then why was curry draymond and klay getting their private jets ready to fly out to kd and convince him?
Kd haters are wild, comparing an entire team to a player is crazy
I don't see how joining the warriors is a bad decision, it certainly damaged his legacy but he won 2 rings and 2 final mvps and got to play some of the greatest basketball we've ever seen. He got to be apart of a dynasty and knowing him he treasures quality of basketball above all else and joining the warriors satisfied that desire.
He’s in the goat discussion from the perspective of a lot of players. Is the media that needs championships and a narrative.
How? He doesn't have good enough defense to ever get to the top 5. Jordan was a slightly better scorer, and a way better defender, and he doesn't have the playmaking skills to make up for it. Same thign with lebron. Offensively KD is a better scorer, but he isn't as good of a playmaker and not near dpoy level lebron. Obviously he's super underrated, but that's too far.
No he is not😭😭
Lmaooo no he’s not. Man has yet to lead his own team to any championship let alone multiple
I'm a huge LeBron fan but this guy is the number 1 talent EVER. He checks all the attributes a player needs with crazy size and reach, his defense is underrated AF and no one can guard him. That GSW move was bad for us the viewers, thank God for that draymond fight because, how many rings could've curry and Durant won together?
Yeah one of the greatest MVP speeches
Another master video
This video is Gold!!
If it was tough for MJ when bron only had 1 and Kobe had 5 what’s that tell you
Bro when I seen KD play at Texas I told all my homies. “ He’s gonna be better than Jordan.. he’s too nice” I was watching him play the other night he’s just an amazing basketball player. Ik technically #’s wise Jokic is the best but there’s only 1 KD man . Skill off the charts!
If you say kd is ring chasing,😅come one what else is he supposed to do ,chase losses?
The league chose Bron in 07 when Kobe became unpopular. They’re never pushing someone past him as long as he’s their cash cow.
bro Lebron is one of the best players of all time wtf are you on, casual
Kobe never became unpopular
You must be young. After the case and Shaq split. Kobe could no longer be pushed as the face of the league. He even lost endorsements
@@z0tl410Kobe was hated in the mid 2000s by many🤷🏽♂️a lot of ppl forget that shit since he so beloved now
@@z0tl410 yes he was nephew, you were still eating crayons back then so sit down.
BEST OVERAL PLAYER: LeBron
BEST SCORRER: Kevin Durant
BEST FINNISHER: Kyrie Irving
This is why u don’t make assumptions u have to wait to they do it not say what that might do.
Same here.. i did think he will be the next one to dominate.. in his best year he's arguably on par if not slightly above Lebron.. i was thinking he will inherit the league from lebron its only a matter of time
He’s already 35
My favourite to watch by far
If only he’d just stuck it out in okc or even joined literally any other team than golden state
He should have gone to the Celtics or even Wizards.
@@MrC77or stay with the team he got to the wcf with
The title is so true 😂
It’s been Curry’s league. 73 wins. 4 rings.
Facts
How could the league be from a guy with only 1 fmvp?
73 wins but blew a 3-1 lead in the finals in that same season?
@@epictronologs1793Curry stans are the worst
injury , suspensions
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Man the man’s a goat not of all time but he a goat if u look at it this man changed the game
KDs individual play and longevity has been plenty to be considered in the GOAT discussion with Lebron and MJ. People just don’t respect the move to golden state. If he wins in 2016 and beats the 73-9 warriors and then stays in OKC and wins a few more rings there, he would definitely be considered unanimous number 3 all time and in the GOAT discussion with Lebron and MJ. Outside of media narratives he is absolutely on par with Lebron and MJ. There was a time when Lebron was in his absolute prime that some analysts were saying KD was the better player.
Jordan started to say lebron then skipped the question LMAO 😂😂😂
Not enough on defense and too injury-prone, but i get the sentiment. I still half think if he got drafted to the Celtics he would've been a mega legend. Had some thin-skin moments though so maybe not. So talented.
If okc would have stayed in Seattle I’m pretty sure KD would have been there still.
The guy has proved time and time again, super team after super team, he can't win without Curry, Curry has a much better goat argument at this point and he's also definitely not the goat
durant is better than curry at the sport simple
Durant is better then curry, durant made curry and durant was the only reason yall have 4 not 2😂
KD has the mental fortitude of a child, did everyone legitimately think that someone who pretends to be a fan so he could reply to another fan about himself, is gonna have the mental fortitude or strength to break the top 5 NBA players?
Too many youngsters forget that performance is as much mental as it is physical.
Bro you’re him w all the extra clips included
Nice vid. Think he needs like 2 or 3 more championships to launder his reputation but that's just me
Keep going you are a underrated youtuber.
Thank you so much
Agreed
KD should never be in the conversation.
He's the one after mj and bron
after mj
@@kayd221 sure bud, jumped to another team so he could win because he can't lead anyone. Nor do anything with physical contact...
@@notstunyou cant lead a team, subpar defense. Gets bodied by anyone who weighs more
@SuperSikarlo he weights the like giannis and but sure he dnt really got defense, but his offense makes up 4 it
His foot size has nothing to do with him stepping on the line. You pivot with your toe, not your heal.
17:01 this was gold
Kevin going into his Bob McAdoo time of life.
It’s gonna be crazy when they retire
When he said looking towards the end of Lebron career who’s league will it be next, and he put Ayton up there😂. Gotta be a troll right
I don't know about the GOAT torch. That's Jordan's torch to hold until a worthy player comes along, goes through the grind, trials and tribulations and impresses the masses as a whole enough to get 60+ percent of fans to agree that he's the GOAT. However, the NBA face of the league torch is supposed to be passed on every 10-15 or so years from one or two players to the next one or two players. Which you could say was passed from Michael to Kobe/Duncan to LeBron or LeBron/Steph.
To me it’s always been a new face every 5 or so years where they share it first with the previous for a few years then with the next.
Jordan came during and after magic/bird. Kobe/Duncan came during and after Jordan. Lebron came during/after Kobe/Duncan. Curry came during lebron (lebron ain’t done yet lmao)
@@IAmTheRealHim he is done already, i would say that the NBA is looking for a new face
Jokic and Giannis
@@GiovaniDeJesus not as face he isn’t. He might be out of the tip top player conversation but he’s the most famous player still playing without a doubt
Maybe this is off topic but I’m just glad you guys are calling it the Kobe/Duncan era. Because I swear Duncan never gets his dues, I always put Kobe and Duncan around the same place all time. Just like what other people do with Magic and Bird.
the jones fracture crippled his athleticism, he tore his achilles, countless mcl tears. Still here giving people buckets when most player's careers would be ended
The level of preparation is crazy
“In 5 years” … “these names mean nothing to you now”
Bro he was talking to a young NBA star about HS freshmen & sophomores or am I tripping cuz that’s wild lol
Its fake. Okc wasn't even conceived at that time
If KD had ignored the critics and just stayed in Golden State and came back from an Achillies injury and won 3 of the next 4 Championships he'd essentially be in the discussion.
Think about it. The Warriors wouldn't have had KD or Klay the next season, they lost Steph to injury, they still got their top 3 pick.
They'd have added that pick + Poole, Kuminga, etc etc etc
Difference is they wouldn't have Wiggins they'd have KD, but they'd also have their draft picks. So essentially, Klay, Steph and KD would have returned the same season. If they kept winning Championships those following seasons? KD would be at 5 rings, Steph would be at 6. They'd be going for their 7th and 6th this season.
But he went to Brooklyn instead, and we saw how that turned out. Legit think they'd have won the title the year Kyrie got hurt, but that's another What If.
But KD in leaving and Steph winning a title without him has put Steph in the position KD would have been in as far as legacy goes if KD had stayed.
could've been a Magic-Kareem type duo, but KD wanted to prove he could do it without Curry. he's still trying tho
Hell no. Winning more with golden state would've done nothing
No wayyy, having Steph in that team will always keep his legacy down.. It's Steph's team and he already won without him twice.
I Think so too
You think? They were like 2 points away, and if his toe was an inch shorter they would've done it without him.
As a lebron fan, I will admit, ive NEVER, Been more afraid of another player than KEVIN DURANT in 2017 and 2018, curry may be a close 2nd, but I truly feared that man. Come crunch time I HATED and shook in my boots when he had the ball.
God bless everyone and have a wonderful day ❤️🙏
Durantula 🕷️🕸️
Not tryna hate but…
At 9:02 that’s not even a playoff game.. pretty sure that was like opening night, I mean it literally says premiere week lol.
And at 11:30 that’s an interview when Cleveland played GS in the finals not 2012.. Lebron talks about how they were one of the best teams ever the year before…
Not hating but some stuff is inaccurate.
Why was Paul pierce so small next to T-Mac 14:09
KD can't ever be the goat. Doesn't take away from how great he is...but he can't jump many of those top 10 guys at this point.
If curry even reaches the final it could be considered his league. 2015-2019 finals appearances, 2022 and imagine 2024. If he wins this year it’s his era. 5 rings like Kobe Tim Duncan 🫰🫰. Curry is a top 10 nba player ever!! Someone make room!!
curry is still one of the best players in the league rn, tho the rest of that warriors team is too painfully mediocre for them to realistically make another finals run
He is probably the GOAT of international competitions. Now, to be honest, I do think NBA rings are more important because it's a season long efforts and best of seven is much more objective than best of one, but he should get more love from people from the US. In any other country people would give him a statue and love him more than players who had very little interest for the national team, which is almost every other player from the US, but to be fair also most high profile player from any other country. I don't think KD should get a statue, but at least not as much hate.
As far as his NBA career is concerned, I wonder if he stayed with Westbrook too long. He was in his prime before moving to GSW and while they were successful and Russ was pretty good, I wonder what could've been with a PG who has a good basketball IQ even if less athletic.
I was an actual fan of thunder but after kd and Westbrook left i stopped watching nba, sga is the bandaid that made me start watching thunder again.
He still has it you making like he not is crazy a grown man can go too whatever and any team he wants I get that people get mad cause there team is trash back then I was a rockets fan I didn’t get mad like oh wow my team didn’t have a chance he a two time champion and he earned that a grown person making there own choice in life and not your choice if you want every one too be the same no
Kd is my goat if you take all the greats one on one Kd can cook them all. When it’s said and done you can’t say he doesn’t have rings. Yes it was the easy way out but he is what made them a lock and everyone knew it
He was next in line after Kobe. He turned his back on his destiny.
Kd watched this video and then started punching the air
My only issue with this is where you said "a ring is still a ring and kd has 2." That's the whole crux of the issue. He doesn't have two rings, or they're made of tin. The warriors were already the greatest regular season team of all time and then you go ahead and throw KD on top of them + they faced subpar competition in the finals in 2018 after the cavs had been gutted of talent post kyrie Irving trade. Of course those rings are less valuable, of course people criticize KD for choosing golden state of all teams to join. Of course he's looked at as less than Steph and Lebron since both those guys have one without a costar as good as KD. He's an incredible person and his MVP speech brings me to tears everytime but it's no question that he did irreparable damage to his legacy by joining golden state.
The NBA counts it as a legitimate championship so it is, no matter how anyone feels it’s in the record books. Facts and opinions because of feelings are two different things
I am not suggesting it isn't officially a championship in the record books. You're completely right. I am stating that in my opinion and in the opinions of MANY others they are very weak or damn near illegitimate championships because of how stacked the warriors were and the poor competition they faced in 2018 especially. I am quite literally stating my opinion based on how I feel about the situation was that not obvious?@@demetriousstephens1998
Yo. You make so much sense. Bill Russel has 11 rings. They are legitimite rings counted by NBA. So he the goat. MJ,Lebrom,KD,Steph all trash. Don't try to defend your opinions, because it is in the records.
Do u see how stupid u sound? 😂@@demetriousstephens1998
By that logic we should also evaluate Robert Horry's rings the same way we evaluate Jordan's rings, which just doesn't add up. You might argue these are two different cases; however, I'd say there has to be contexts to championships and not in terms of numbers alone.
@@demetriousstephens1998 in that case bill Russell better than Jordan and that's not true 😂
You didn't make an argument to why he doesn't have a "legitimate" chance to be GOAT. Your video just summed up his career
The goat contention probably won’t be breached, the only realistic contenders are Jordan and LeBron with a few honorable mentions like Magic, Kareem and Kobe. KD isn’t the goat not because he isn’t good but just because the peak was increased impossibly high by MJ and LeBron, I’ll put it like this there are realistically only 15 people EVER who have existed than can say that they’d have a worse career if they traded their career achievements in the NBA and to me that’s all you can really ask for, having your name cemented in history and forever remembered.
The video is about how kd had a chance, he did had a chance. Talent wise
@@TheGrimFiend no ik but I’m talking about how he isn’t the GOAT but still is a legendary player and one of the greatest scorers to ever touch a basketball
Kobe aint up there
I don’t understand what that last statement means
@@ArthPedrofacts these goofys always putting Kobe top 5. He only has 2 rings without Shaq
Kobe might not be mentioned in the goat debate, but honestly Kobe was a monster and quite possibly a better player than KD & Lebron maybe..
how y’all saying it’s been in lebrons league when he was in every final in the 2010s except for when he went to a young lakers
I just thought about it but how much do players in the nba watch game film of other teams and players. In football it's every day during a week, but with how many games the nba has you have to do that nightly. I can tell kobe took his time, but he's an animal, literally the mamba, but how much do young players now a days do that is what I wonder because I don't hear them say stuff like that a lot in interviews or really ever
Curry isnt in these conversations without kd. Kd is here without curry . Thats the difference
What’s difference? Can’t win a ring without steph😢
Until Durant wins a ring without chasing a superteam, he can have my respect. My man made the most cowardly decision in NBA History by joining the team he blew a 3-1 lead to.
Man kd better than lbj cause he went toe to toe with lbj and won two straight titles like he was the reason the gsw won them two back to back titles and he took the first one from the defending champions like stop the bs kd is a true beast and a top 5 all time mj is the goat
lil bro thinks it's the end of LeGoat's career. 2049 NBA MVP
"Y'all know who I am, Im moderm jam" - soon....
KD will always be my GOAT
Maybe we truly won’t appreciate who Kevin Durant is until he retires
Kd just invented the 55 40 90 club last season
I mean it was really the achilles injury, if that didn't happen there would have been another ring and this would be a totally different conversation
He did have a chance, but he lost it the moment he joined Golden State 😢😢😢
This just isn’t true… he realistically was never going to surpass MJ and the NBA world are generally idiots for the amount of criticism he got for being a good player joining a good team. He was the best player on that team remember. 2 finals MVPs would not be considered damaging to anyone else’s legacy.
I agree he was never gonna surpass MJ, but to be one of the best. He’s not top 10, and Curry was always the best player on GSW, he’s just selfless and gave the keys to his bus to KD. He proved he always was when he won the chip without him in ‘22.
Injuries. 2012 Thunder make the finals. Then thye make 2 franchise dooming moves. Trading Harden and Jeff Green. 2013 Westbrook is hurt roght before the postseason. Wouldve veen nice to have Harden. 2014 Westbrook out for season because pat Beverly. KD wins mvp. 2015 KD out for season. 2016 Thunder take 73 and 9 warriors 7 games and i think all nba fans agree westbrook and kd both choked. The Thunder had 2 healthy seasons in 5 years and both healthy seasons they were a top 3 team.
Correction, it went from Jordan’s league to Kobe’s league to Lebron.
Idk why Lebron fans stay disrespecting Kobe’s legacy by intentionally excluding him from the goat conversation.
What if Seattle never has their team stolen, and KD is a SuperSonic forever? Looked at much differently.
You forgot it was kobe league before lebron. I just love how y’all keep leaving kobe our when kobe is/was the closest thing to jordan
Why was kobe always losing to bron even his Cleveland day's. And dhaq has 3 fmvp to kobe 2 and San Antonio and LA was winning rings.
@@Ilovemylightskinqueens 😂 d wade came out and said kobe was so good that that form the big 3 to stop kobe
@@realtundragamingwhy y’all always go with the “well this player said this so that means this guy is the greatest to ever touch a basketball” ? 💀
@@yea3702 why y’all always call lebron the goat when he all time finals loser? ☠️
@@realtundragamingand winner
You def skipped over the important parts, but cool vid
pls stop sayin book is that guy because of one playoff run, kd is averaging 31 on 50 48 90 shooting splits while book hasnt played and even when he does, kd is playin better rn, kd is still the best player on the suns and maybe book will be in the future
i think Durant is #3 all-time behind MJ & Olajuwon and ahead of Dr J at #4... all 4 are unguardable one-on-one scorers who can play offense & defense, halfcourt & fullcourt, at a high level... the all-around game combined with elite scoring makes these fellas the top 4 in history... fax!!!
#3 all time? and dr j at #4? terrible list, basketball is not a 1 on 1 game if you want to put kd #3 iso scorers then fine but all time? mj and hakeem were all time great defenders and kd has nowhere near the defensive presence they have
@@temporarybum in '14 the Thunder were 6th in Def Rating, then the next year Durant played 27 games and the Thunder fell to 16th in Def Rating... he averages 40.5 minutes per playoff game and gets 1 steal and 1 block and 7 Def Rebounds; while scoring 29.4ppg... he won 2 Finals MVP with Curry & James on the court... have you watched Dr J in the 1970s??? he didn't enter NBA until age 26 yet still averaged 1.7 steals and 1.7 blocks in playoffs, only someone like Olajuwon can excel at both... in '76 ABA Finals against 3 NBA all-stars (Thompson, Issel, BJones=top wing defender) Dr J averaged 38ppg-14boards-5assists... fax!!!
god awful list
Fuck no
12:59 he’s filled with joy the nba fans took that from him with stupidity
With all this skills n talent it's hard to find out what's missing from KDs style causing him to underachive. Maybe lack of passion who knows
Mental toughness killer instinct, a little bit more of health
Leadership
Injury’s and team injuries
@@tpsamu sound dumb
@@MeloRileyinjuries.. Kyrie getting hurt in Brooklyn against The Bucks was unfortunate
am i the only one or when u see KD you can see Manny from Ice Age
Goes to a championship team. Wins. Leaves team. The team wins another one after he leaves. That doesn’t happen to Kobe lebron or MJ. The teams they leave and retire from instantly are terrible
all ima say is on 2k when Kd retires he better be a 99 ovr
on alltime okc nd warrios