MY FAVORITE CAR EVER vs THE NEWEST VERSION OF IT. Can the 992 GT3RS top the last manual GT3RS 997.2?
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- My 997.2 GT3RS is my unattainable dream car that I somehow managed to attain. It is the peak analog supercar and some say the best Porsche ever made. The 992 GT3RS seems incredible, so lets see how it stacks up to the GOAT.
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There´s something about Vin´s videos that genuinely makes me enjoy every second of the content. I can feel each emotion and word he´s saying because he´s living the experience like there´s no camera around. Just taking us for the ride, enjoying together. I love that
He comes across as real. No fake TH-camr energy. Just car dude energy.
Thanks man!!
You are spot on! Vin is doing a GREAT job in his videos, and kinda makes us, a part of the videos. 💪
100% agree. Vin is killing it!
Solid formula, and the best is yet to come 👏
Love this content mate. This scratches the itch of the deep car nerding out that hoonigan lost. Keep on killing it Vin!
Sorry, but if you think you're old at 35, that's a problem. I'm 54 and would daily the 997.2 RS. I literally laugh out loud when I'm in stop and go traffic with my manual transmission 991.2 C2. I'm trading it for a 997 GT3. The rawness of the 997 is the exact reason why we drive those cars. The working of the controls and working at getting everything out of the car - is the essence of what makes it what it is: The best sports car.
Im 33 and id daily drive the hell out of the porsche you drive and the one youre getting as well lol. People cry about the E9X M3 as well but i daily drive mine(manual trans also) because why wouldn't i enjoy it everyday lol.
I'm of similar vintage as you. I have an '11 GT3RS and would 100% NOT want to daily this in LA traffic. The clutch is significantly heavier than any non-GT car (I've owned a few), the shift action is also heavy, and the sound deadening sometimes seems non existent (although I have an aftermarket exhaust). I absolutely love the car but to think it would be a cake walk to daily this in a traffic heavy city is probably a premature assumption. Try it out and get back to us:)
@@only3pedals Got it. I'm not sure LA traffic is good for any type of "driving" other than sitting still and moving quite slowly. I wouldn't like that type of driving in any car - period.
Just a frame of reference, for years I had a '69 Big Block Corvette with around 650hp. It has a sintered seven puck racing clutch. In order to pully out, you basically had to take the revs up to 1,200rpms and side-step the clutch. It would squat, chirp the tires and go. If you tried to slip the clutch to pull out like a normal car, it would hammer and bang like you were hitting the transmission with a hammer. The pedal pressure was pretty extreme as well since the clamping force was so high. No slipping at all once you're off and moving.
Congrats on owning a 997.2 RS and driving it! Perfect car IMHO
@@only3pedals Oh, you're right, I wouldn't drive the RS or the Corvette in LA traffic either
So annoying when men in their 30's call themselves "Old" but noticed that its typically uttered by child-less men.
Porsche has been making timeless cars since the '60s. All 911s are so desirable. Your car still sounds and performs amazing!
997 for sure. I am in my mod 40's and love the Old School Porsche. I like to work for fun. It's more involving.
Mod 40s is when your back hurts after you put on an exhaust.
So ive watched all of Vin's videos so far and really been enjoying the content! Keep doing what your doing dude👍 looks like your really enjoying what your doing & we are all enjoying the journey also! Awesome mate keep up the great work much love from the U.K 🇬🇧👍❤
Gotta say if it’s between vin or dde for 9am video drop… I’m def coming here first.
Just gotta budget some more time in the morning, haha!
It’s like Xmas every Thursday! Santa Vin with trunk full of good ish on videos! Love it Vin!
Every Thursday I’m watchin
Thats an insult that youd even compare the two. Vin.. an OG hoonigan member is 📈📈📈
dde doesn't like porsches kinda lame if you ask me
I drove a 911 GT3 RS at Exotic Racing in Las Vegas. I have been into track cars for a long time, and owned a few. I was SHOCKED and the capabilities of the GT3 RS. The world of Porsche opened up to me that day.
2 keys sitting on the table for me to grab:
Track day at Laguna Seca - 992
Tail of the Dragon - 997.2
There's no denying that the newer car would be better to live with day to day, but when I go out at sunrise on a Saturday morning, I'm going for the car that makes me work for it.
The 997 hits DIFFERENT... The wheel and tyre setup is just 👌👌
Loving the content! Ken would be extremely proud of you
Love your 7.2 3RS. Especially with the JRZs and other quality mods. I had the opportunity to drive one, as well as a 7.1 GT3 and 7.2 RS 4.0 recently. My favorite generation of Porsches and possibly the best driver's cars of all time. Hope you keep yours.
Ha dude I watched that video last night. What a lineup!!
Buying the 997 10000%, besides all out performance comparing it to the 992. You cannot beat that car in terms of pure driving experience, looks, and personality
Watching your videos is the closest thing to hanging out with my car buddies and just doing car guy stuff on a random weekday. Absolutely spectacular.
I think the rawness of older sports cars has more charm than the speed of their modern counterparts. Both cars are still super cool though, great vid Vin!
That Aaron driving instructor has the fricking dream job. So jealous.
I’d pay to have an unedited no talking pov of the 997. Most of the pov videos on TH-cam on this car are either short, old or includes so much taking. I don’t even see too many 997.2 gt3 rs’s on here honestly. Just love the rawness of the car honestly. The rough idle at stop lights, the rifle bolt action stiffness of the shifter, hearing just how heavy the clutch is on takeoffs, just an awesome car
Vin your content keeps killing it. The video quality and edits are so enjoyable. Also the fact you actually understand mechanics and how to drive fast cars on track is super impressive - it’s makes everything you say hold clout.
Everything great about early Hoonigan has been ported to this channel, good job sir!!
Vin is really climbing to the top of my list of favorite creators. Now to just get him to upload more :)
I want to but I’m not ready and don’t think I can stay consistent with the quality and concepts yet. Once I get through summer and a few other things off my plate I’m down!
@@vin_tra we’ll be ready when the time permits!
The 997 has always been my dream car but Vins Porsche with the gold wheels just makes me fall in love more.
Awesome comparison
997 in my opinion seems more special. The size, the more analog engineering, the metzger engine, the visceral sound and even aesthetics.
The 992 is a spaceship in comparison. Beats the 997 in nearly every aspect but does it have the same soul?
That 997 gt3 rs has some awesome mods that elevate it. Great to see it being properly driven and not treated like merely an investment.
i had a 991.2 C4S that was totaled last june, I thought the replacement was going to be a 991.2 manual gt3, but then i drove a 997.1 gt3 and now looking for either a 997.1 GT3 or GT3RS, but i'm older, and grewup driving manual so the cars relate more to me.
Thank you for reviewing both cars honestly. Too many of these other videos act like Porsche forgot how to build amazing cars after the 997 and everything went downhill. Porsche is an engineering company first and foremost…..and advancing performance sometimes requires things that can be perceived as taking away from the experience, but such is life. I was fortunate enough to own a 997.2 GT3 RS for almost 3 years when it was new and while I absolutely loved the ownership experience I feel that the 992 generation of the GT3 RS is the perfect evolution of that car and for what is gives up in being a less analog experience it makes up in other areas.
The 997.2 is one of my all time favourite cars. Vin should keep this car forever.
997 all day for me, not that ether are an option but the subtle greatness of the 997 is something else.
Pushing towards middle age here, too (41). Agreed with everything you said, Vin. The new car is too outrageously styled. Since I’m not going to be driving a car like that every day. I’ll take your 997 over the new one.
997 & 996 is like the sweet spot for 911s. Perfect size for a nice piece of twisty road & a good natural driving feel
@Vin_ tra it's so obvious how much you love your 997.2 GT3 RS, and I feel the same way after owning my own for over 11 years now. The car never gets old to me, is always a sensational experience to drive at any speed, and just makes me fall in love with it over and over again. It was a lot of fun to see you compare it to the latest 992.1 GT3 RS! I definitely enjoy your content, keep up the great work brother.
I like @ 21:18 describing control arm downforce, “For you guys out there who that might’ve ‘gone over your head’”
Good word choice 😂
Haha I mean it’s pretty wild
What an amazing couple of cars. If it were my money, though, I'd take that 997 GTRS3 in manual. The sounds, the engagement, the hydraulic steering and even the smaller overall size of the 997 wins me over. I have a mate who owns a 992 GT3RS and the sheer size of the car just makes me think Porsche has lost its way a little obsessing with power, downforce and sheer grip. The car is so capable now that you need to be doing utterly stupid speeds to feel the limits.
I've never driven a Porsche but it sounds to me like the 992 would be a more practical car to drive on the road but the 997 would be more fun on the track. Personally I am a big fan of that "analogue" feel, which is probably why I would lean that way. I'm a little behind on your uploads so will catch the new one soon. Another great video Vin, killing it!
997 purest Manual for me, but 992 is amazing. The car does most of the work. I like 3 pedals!
The 997 all day! Driving a 992 may be an awesome experience, but driving the more "alive" 997 is almost an art form and a manual labor. And I'm down for the later two...
You explained the 997 exactly how I like mine simple/raw 997 FTW. The 992 looks wild I’d love both ! But I’d never sell the 997
dang the new RS is so good
it’s absolutely insane. 997 is still king but for a track car this thing is unbelievable
Great video, full of good info. Vin advises he is 35. Enjoy it all. I’m 76 and still enjoying my time wrenching and driving. Thanks, Vin.
the ferrari project is cool-ish Vin. But to see your real passion and excitement for the Porsche makes the videos much more interesting to watch honestly. There really isnt enough cool porsche content on the interwebs of people doing clean builds and just enjoying the actual drive of them so that video was pretty solid.
Wow. 997 for weekend ripper and track car. 992 for cruising and going to dinner and you still wanna hit some WOT pulls on the way to the destination.
997 gen gt3 and 3rs still the Pinnacle of gt cars ...my favorite gen. Modern enough but also super analog and exciting to drive.
Every 997 needs that new 992 steering wheel. They look so sweet!
991!
@@vin_tra oh I see! I'll keep that in mind for when I get my 997 😁
Never ever sell your 997. I'm from the UK and it's the only reason why I came to this channel because no one in the UK let alone the US daily drives and vlogs a 997 GT3. I'd rather see you sell your current collection of cars than sell the GT3. This is your trophy piece, and your dream car. Cherish it.
The absolute best vid on the GT3 of all time. Your description and video sync made me feel like I was physically with you. I may never get to drive a GT3 but now I have small clue. No one has ever described the detail of the car in such a functioning way. BEST GT3 VIDEO EVER!!!
997 for me! Love a "slower" car that has more engagement. Love the content so far Vin!
Hmmm tough choice. I'm thinking the 997 solely because I live in an area would I could take it wide open and enjoy it. There's also some winding areas of road that go by the lake next to town. It would be fun to have to work while I drive. That's what makes it fun and rewarding.
After watching the gt3rs rip around track with the e88s 🤯🤯🥵I need a 997 Porsche 😂😂😂do I sell my f8x for a carrera? Great video as always 🤙
Me personally I’m going with Vin’s Porsche. I love manual more than anything when it comes to driving a car. Yeah PDK is advanced in this day and age, but I need my left leg doing something while I drive
Seeing someone genuinely happy while driving their car is so fun to watch. Happiness is contagious man, loving the content.
Man do I love seeing Vin nerd out, smiling like a kid in a candy store. Love it
Keep your 997.2GT3RS. I once had a 997.1 GT3 and wish I had kept it. I then moved onto a 991.2 GT3RS and still enjoyed the 997 GT3 more because of it being manual and the size and rawness. If you do sell your 7.2RS, I'll buy it from you.
The tag team of Vin & Zac is like Batman and Batman 🔥
the amount of disrespect Aarons flow was throwing down the whole video, dang haha. Great video!
Bro this channel has quickly become one of my favorites, you really should have created this channel years ago because I enjoy this content as much as I enjoyed OG Hoonigan videos and it’s completely different
Dude your enthusiasm for these machines is contagious. This channel is going to explode. It should.
Unreal video Vin! Loved the deep dive on both models, and seeing the crazy tech on the 992! Just a bonkers car
2:28 hell yeah man you gotta take that shot! Always!
I am taking the 997.2, there will be a time when those type of cars will dissappear and be replaced by spaceships of the like of the 992, and the raw experience will be lost, so until then there is time to jump in an analog beast, while we are still young (btw Vinny you are young man, 35 is young!)
The new gt3 are so capable out of the box though... and with a few adjustments and mods people are taking them to the extreme on the Nurburgring, they are on rails
I'd take the 992 for sure. the level of performance is just on a another planet, I'd be at the track every weekend playing with damper and diff settings lol
997! I prefer the styling of the 997. The 992 is crazy aggressive, but absolutely killer of a car,. I think I may have to give the Porsche Experience a try one day... thinking about gifting the experience to a friend that really wants a Porsche! real cool!
Dude, I'm completely in love with your channel. The editing, the angles, the information! So proud to see you killing it out here on your own! Keep up the great work, I'm here for it! ❤❤❤
The MASSIVE grin on your face driving the 992 gave away the answer immediately. Great video as always Vin!
New GT3 RS is super sick, but your collection is amazing especially the 997 on the e88s. All at 35 I’m spewing 😂
Can we have a review on the dog please 😂
The cinematography of this channel is my favorite. But damn do you have to yank me (the viewer) off the tripod so hard after that super smooth intro w/ ep# and all for our convenience!...lol
😂
That's a really special car and the mods wouldn't bother me either but all I can afford is my 987 Cayman which puts a HUGE smile on my face.
Porsche has always been my favorite car. I just can't afford one. I guess I just have to get my kicks watching Vin.
I’m just about to go to sleep but now I have to watch this
Vin my dude, you’re a real and a legitimate car guy which makes your TH-cam endeavor and videos super organic and pure. It takes one to know one. Keep it up man 👍🏼.
Gotta say this is an excellent video to watch if you're going to drive one on track thanks to Vin's ADHD non-stop yappin'. Props brotha.
Always loved the 997 GT3RS but your videos make me want one even more and mourn the fact that their prices have skyrocketed.
Best channel on TH-cam right now. Hats off to this quality of content youre putting out!
As a 991.2 GT3 RS owner, I was expecting more from the 992 GT3 RS - I appreciate the active aero and in cab adjustability, but realistically, real world around many tracks - the difference between the two cars will come down to which tires you're running. In my view the 991.2 GT3 RS completed the journey from 996 - 997 - 991. The 992 whilst technically interesting, is more an engineering demonstration of whats possible. Perhaps the 992 is the first step on the next journey whereas the 996-997-991 were their own specific journey. Very hard to go wrong with any RS model but tom me the 991.2 GT3 RS seamlessly brings everything together in terms of performance and handling without losing practicality.
I haven't driven the 997 or the 992 GT3RS, but I have driven the 991.1 and 991.2 GT3 and GT3RS, and the 991.2 GT3 is my favorite by far, not only for its speed, handling, and drivability, but also its modest styling that the 997 and 992 lacks.
Excellent episode!! I have loved the look of the 911 body style since I was a young boy....one of my favorite Porsche 94' 964 turbo S...I'd imagine one with a wide tire body....but these new ones are amazing!
Beautiful 997. I understand the front fenders are wider than a standard widebody 997 car but all my research over the years is that the rear width should also be the same as any 997 widebody (72.9") even with the wider stock OEM wheels
Depends if it was a "daily" or not. If I had your car line up - I'd say 997. Because you can still get your creator comforts from the M3 and Raptor. Both so sick though.
Vins content gets me fired up to go work on my own project car. Every episode every time
I've seen your posts on RL, Vin. Don't sell it. You'll regret it and it'll be virtually impossible to get back into one unless you want to take a financial bath. I've contemplated selling mine as well because I don't have enough time to enjoy any of my cars, but I know I could never forgive myself if I did. Every car guy should own a Porsche at some point in their life. And this (or debatably the 7.2 RS 4.0) is THE one.
I feel ya. It’s why I havent sold it. Every other car feels like I can get another but this would be closing this chapter forever. The 4.0 comments are always funny. Like of course it’s better but at 2x the cost (aka 300k more) I can’t see it being worth it from a use perspective.
Great video. The 992 is a joke of itself. Your car is the best ever gt car besides 4.0
Driving both of these machines on the west coast of Norway would be a dream come true. your car looks amazing and clean, I’m 36 and analog is what I’ve grown up with. But on track the newer gear box on Track, seems wild.
Vin, would love to see a comparison vid with your 997 & a 991.1 or .2! Keep killin it man!
Me too. Always tempted by a 991.1 RS due to the price delra
@@vin_tra I’ve been looking at 991.2’s haaaard. I’m just curious the difference in driving experience between it and your car. Both extremely beautiful. I imagine it’s still a raw connected car just probably a little more refined compared to a 997 but still before too many electronics. That’s their appeal to me
I'm NGL, the Hoonigan energy mixed with the Donut Media philosophy on cars, is the ultimate combo of channels!!!! Keep it up Vin
I want a 992 so bad loved every second of this video man wish someone would get one and make some cool content w it I’d love to see some content w one of these cars
For me the 997.2 GT3 RS was my "Postercar" as a boy exactly speced like yours, up to now I only had the chance to to drive a 997 GT3 and the 991 Gt3 RS. The 992 is amazing but I would always go 997, as it is manual, it is a real drivers car. With some Skill everyone is fast in a 992. I would always choose the 997 or even a 996 eventhough it is not the prettiest but I love driving manual and don't care about maybe being a little slower, it is about the experience and feeling the car without all the electronics that came with the 991 and now 991.
Vin that raw feeling is what makes your Porscha outstanding I've watched every episode really enjoying them and Zach 4x4 is a gas 🐷 couldn't believe it was worse than that huge boat unbelievable bro
I was not a big Porsche fan but I love my 992 Carrera S with PK especially in LA traffic or Pacific Coast highway. I would not trade the PK gearbox for anything especially when it comes to LA traffic. It’s a very fun car to drive through the canyons, I really enjoy it. I have driven a manual for years but the PD is just so much more fun to drive on track and in the canyons.
Dude the way you talk about cars and give information and convey specs as well as presence it’s like you are an American Jeremey Clarkson. Got home and it was warm!!!
Great video and indeed a tough choice. I am fortunate to own both an RS4.0 and a 991.1RS. Love them both. Different pleasures: 991 is easier to drive, more confidence inspiring and those pdk shifts are insane. the 997.2 requires more skills and feels so light compared to the 991 that driving it is akin to ballet dancing. Pure driving pleasure.
That’s a lineup. I’m always tempted to sell this and pick up a 991.1rs for half the price.
Bro ngl these videos are much better than most of the hella popular TH-camr , it’s such a vibe 👌
I can't get enough of his content. What a well spoken gent right there! Keep it up Vin!
2010 for sure....it's the reason why I have my Miata. Just pure enjoyment. Love the vids vin. Keep up the good work.
Such a cool video, man. Your perspective is special because of your experience with the 997. If i were to get one and only one. I think i would take the 992 still. Porsche refines liquid gold with each generation and somehow each iteration it gets better. Great job!
It's rad that Vin, hert and zach have their own channels now. I look forward to their new videos every week just like the old daily transmission days.
Vin, Love the new channel! Coming from a guy who just built a 59 Corvette Resto Mod with no nannies at all. Money no object I would take the new GT3 RS and drive the wheels off it. I would be doing track days every weekend
Porsches are like a timeless individual piece of machine that actually remembers you of every epoch of vehicle engeneering apex.
What I mean by this is that, in my case, I cannot choose between old and new. What i can actually choose is like:
"What era of Driving Experience do I wanna live?"
And then, you have all Porsche models to choose from and actually do experience it without looking so different from one another.
Design wise, they keep the timeless looks and without losing it's character, or may I say, it's identity.
Performance wise?! Choose what you want to experience/feel while driving, and that's it. You'll have your answer.
The only problem in my view is: The money you'll need to have each version in your garage.
Another nice vid Vin! Love from Brazil!
I'm still trying to figure what model I'll choose when I have the money, but everything in me points to 997's or 911 Cup RSR's from the nineties.
Here in Brazil they're in the same price range. US$300k. Steep. But so worth it.
14:33 My guyyy! You are giving me BBC Top Gear vibes, but like when they had Hammond, Clarkson, and May! Also it's really cool to hear you describe the experience of driving it. Very cool dude
I always forget that Vin has GT3RS. Thing is absolutely gorgeous. that's a car I'd always turn around to look at when I park it
Hell yeah, this is the best channel. Hands down the best!!🤘🏽
i have been DYING to see this comparison on youtube, finally!!
You got me Vin! I have always been ALL about the 996 and especially the 997 RS. But seeing your views on the new one has really got me thinking now, maybe new is better!
Oh, your 360, that colour has grown on me so much. It looks classy, especially with the wheels. Kind of like a 360 version of a GT3 touring.
Keep the awesome vids coming 👊🏼
id have to go with your 997 for sure for similar reasons to you, i've always been a big fan of the heavy shifting analog manuals a la fast and furious lmao