I somehow come to a different conclusion to yours, I really was impressed by the CP12 (listening on Audio Technica M50X), it sounds like a full range speaker (and that it wants to be more). In fact, I've never heard of RCF and I was *VERY* impressed with the way they sounded, the RCF ART710AMk4 by themselves sounded really good. Did not like the JBL, felt that they were too bright. Going to start looking into RCF speakers now, a shame they cost a pretty penny from where I am.
RCF is a product made in Italy and has always had a great reputation. Maybe in USA or out of Europe can be a little bit expensive but it's worth it. I'm also looking for a speaker that can also be used as a fr. QSC CP12 it's a very good option but the CP8 would also be fine. Living in Italy I have the opposite problem. QSC is much more expensive than in the US. So in the end I think I will opt for an RCF.
I agree that the CP12 held its place and simply cutting the mids with EQ will make it sound less bright. Speaking from experience as I’ve done just that. I also added 1 Alto Sub and together they sound amazing. Like a mobile nightclub lol. I’m using them at a venue this weekend for around 150 ppl. I’m expecting that those bodies will be bouncing around with that combo.
Victor sigo tu canal y me gustan mucho tus videos, estoy pensando en adquirir los QSC K10, podrías darme tu punto de vista, tengo en mente ponerlos con un Sub 2 de Bose. Agradezco tus comentarios.
@@creepitogamesftw tuve dos ev zlx y ahora tengo JBL eon power de primera generación.. el eon g1 y g2 supera en calidad y presión sonora al ev por lejos. Es increíble el sonido de los eon made un usa. Pero si es cierto que hoy en día es muy difícil conseguirlos en buen estado. Pero si consiguen originales se los recomiendo!!!
that is remarkable RCF ART710, is great but the QSC Cp 08 is slightly above the RCF ART710 in terms of DB clipping. the QSC CP 08 keeps its sound great. but everyone has their own opinion ps: I own both speakers 2 RCF ART710, and 2 QSC CP 08
FWIW those in the room agreed there was something "not quite right" about the sound of the CP12s - kind of a "missing something" feeling. I'm not sure I'd buy them again, though I do appreciate their small size and portability, and love using them for monitors.
@@GreenAsJade agreed Price Size Quality Price price price the cp series are Un beatable. I had all of them Besides the rcf which i absolutely love but are way way 2 price in order to get the proper ones which are the 745 or 735.
Personally the cp12 is much better then you are saying. It’s intended to be well rounded for all purposes like vocals, strings, or your normal big band. Just adjust the eq if you want more low, mid or highs. It can handle it all.
I'm a non professional guitarist, I play in small clubs, at home or in the studio. I agree with you regarding the CP12. In my opinion it's great for use in a guitar-vocal situation or as a speaker for an amp modeler. To be fair, the K10 is a better choice for all other situations as well. I'd be curious to hear a comparison with the RCF ART 910.
Hard to know with music most decent speakers good enough for that, its vocals where the real test is and how loud it can get for vocals without feedback you can turn up any speaker very loud with music, But plug in a microphone that's where the quality will show and how loud u can sing or speak before feedback and the quality of the voice through the speaker ,Really all i see the whole time is testing for djs and not a lot between any of them, Bet theirs a lot between them with a vocal test like to see someone do one.
love the rcf or the k series both gorgeous but the jbl is seriously lacking decent clarity even the cp is a better sound than the jbl now listening to with the subs the rcf pair blow the rest away sound so much warmer and defined the k series sound too much mid range for my ears i'm listening on a pair of rcf ayra pro 5 inch with no eq just flat, great video! it's a shame this test does not go further to include the h - h tesen series
Wow, I like the QSC CP12 the best. Everybody's ear is tuned different I guess & where I play bass in alot of bands, I like a low mid sound to cut thru the mix & the QSC cp12 fits my ear. I like 1st one better if I were a DJ but the QSC cp12 is more for live bands.. 'I think'...😎
Nice! Btw., which version is the Eon? If it's the 15", I know it personally, I know the measurements, and it goes unusually low for a PA top - very good fullrange box for small parties, when you don't want to carry around a sub.
To me, on the acoustic track, the JBL sounded the closest to an actual acoustic guitar to my ears, but I do think the treble is a bit forward for my taste, especially on the Fleetwood Mac song. To me, the K12 sounded the best closely followed by the RCF box (slightly recessed treble to my ears, but not bad at all) and the CP12. (The treble of the CP12 seemed to have the high mids correct, and the highest of high treble correct, but was missing something in between the two, and though there was definitely good volume in the bass range it didn’t extend as deep to my ears. )
I somehow come to a different conclusion to yours, I really was impressed by the CP12 (listening on Audio Technica M50X), it sounds like a full range speaker (and that it wants to be more). In fact, I've never heard of RCF and I was *VERY* impressed with the way they sounded, the RCF ART710AMk4 by themselves sounded really good. Did not like the JBL, felt that they were too bright.
Going to start looking into RCF speakers now, a shame they cost a pretty penny from where I am.
I myself have the QSC cp12 and their an amazing value.
RCF is a product made in Italy and has always had a great reputation. Maybe in USA or out of Europe can be a little bit expensive but it's worth it. I'm also looking for a speaker that can also be used as a fr. QSC CP12 it's a very good option but the CP8 would also be fine. Living in Italy I have the opposite problem. QSC is much more expensive than in the US. So in the end I think I will opt for an RCF.
I agree that the CP12 held its place and simply cutting the mids with EQ will make it sound less bright. Speaking from experience as I’ve done just that. I also added 1 Alto Sub and together they sound amazing. Like a mobile nightclub lol. I’m using them at a venue this weekend for around 150 ppl. I’m expecting that those bodies will be bouncing around with that combo.
Just curious if that's a QSC 12.2 or just a K12. Thanks
Jbl Eon G2 win!
JBL EON G2 EL MEJOR DE LEJOS
La recomiendas antes que una EV ZLX 15?
@@creepitogamesftwsi pero ya no hay
Victor sigo tu canal y me gustan mucho tus videos, estoy pensando en adquirir los QSC K10, podrías darme tu punto de vista, tengo en mente ponerlos con un Sub 2 de Bose. Agradezco tus comentarios.
It’s sounds like 💩
@@creepitogamesftw tuve dos ev zlx y ahora tengo JBL eon power de primera generación.. el eon g1 y g2 supera en calidad y presión sonora al ev por lejos. Es increíble el sonido de los eon made un usa. Pero si es cierto que hoy en día es muy difícil conseguirlos en buen estado. Pero si consiguen originales se los recomiendo!!!
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Cp 8 better then Rcf doubt it but that’s your opinion
Thanks for this test.... I think in buy a JBl Eon G2 in Brasil, but i dont believe a good sound 20 years later, incredible.
It’s sounds terrible
that is remarkable RCF ART710, is great but the QSC Cp 08 is slightly above the RCF ART710 in terms of DB clipping. the QSC CP 08 keeps its sound great. but everyone has their own opinion
ps: I own both speakers 2 RCF ART710, and 2 QSC CP 08
Which for u is better of the 2 for live sound small acoustic band? Art 710 or cp8?
@@pinoysacanada2023 QSC CP 08 is better
@@newme4116 appreciate ur reply mate. many thanks!
I have a bunch of Cp8 content on my channel. 😎 Awesome speakers.
The cp12 for price and value wins.
The old and trusty g2 did sound the Best but i think its the 15 inch version.
J(unk) B(but) L(loud)
FWIW those in the room agreed there was something "not quite right" about the sound of the CP12s - kind of a "missing something" feeling. I'm not sure I'd buy them again, though I do appreciate their small size and portability, and love using them for monitors.
@@GreenAsJade agreed
Price
Size
Quality
Price price price the cp series are Un beatable.
I had all of them Besides the rcf which i absolutely love but are way way 2 price in order to get the proper ones which are the 745 or 735.
Personally the cp12 is much better then you are saying. It’s intended to be well rounded for all purposes like vocals, strings, or your normal big band.
Just adjust the eq if you want more low, mid or highs. It can handle it all.
I'm a non professional guitarist, I play in small clubs, at home or in the studio. I agree with you regarding the CP12. In my opinion it's great for use in a guitar-vocal situation or as a speaker for an amp modeler. To be fair, the K10 is a better choice for all other situations as well. I'd be curious to hear a comparison with the RCF ART 910.
Eon G2 was a super cabinet but had 1 issue. The 2 ohm woofer.
Hard to know with music most decent speakers good enough for that, its vocals where the real test is and how loud it can get for vocals without feedback you can turn up any speaker very loud with music, But plug in a microphone that's where the quality will show and how loud u can sing or speak before feedback and the quality of the voice through the speaker ,Really all i see the whole time is testing for djs and not a lot between any of them, Bet theirs a lot between them with a vocal test like to see someone do one.
Apples to oranges comparison a more comparing would be RCF hd12mk4 or mk5
To my ears the RCF has better clarity and bass definition. Has better vocal clarity and does not thin out like QSC.
hhhhhh. different characteristics for every type of music, it is very difficult to determine which suit us most, yes i love jbl eon.
JBL EON G2 BEST OF THE BEST
Jbl Eon 15G2 best speraker ever made
love the rcf or the k series both gorgeous but the jbl is seriously lacking decent clarity even the cp is a better sound than the jbl now listening to with the subs the rcf pair blow the rest away sound so much warmer and defined the k series sound too much mid range for my ears i'm listening on a pair of rcf ayra pro 5 inch with no eq just flat, great video!
it's a shame this test does not go further to include the h - h tesen series
You can buy a pair of used G2s for the price of one used qsc. I say that’s the winner
Winner on price yes, but not on sound. RCF is winner on sound.
Wow, I like the QSC CP12 the best. Everybody's ear is tuned different I guess & where I play bass in alot of bands, I like a low mid sound to cut thru the mix & the QSC cp12 fits my ear. I like 1st one better if I were a DJ but the QSC cp12 is more for live bands.. 'I think'...😎
K12 beats them all imho.
you clearly have no ears.
No way that can be true I've heard 312a art in person and it's clearer than k12s and this is the 7 series a step up from 312
jbl 😁😁😁
No Pioneer XPRS 10 mk1???
CP12 wins for me. Not sure what you guys were listening through!
i like the k12 the most, but like the charecteristics of the jbl
RCF a melhor.
jbleon15j2❤😊
RCF 710 MK4 + RCF 702 AS II set to 80hz sounds very loud and clean.
Nice! Btw., which version is the Eon? If it's the 15", I know it personally, I know the measurements, and it goes unusually low for a PA top - very good fullrange box for small parties, when you don't want to carry around a sub.
The G2 is a 15" ... I think it's the first (or at least an early version) of the EOn.
RCF
Is the RCF HD10 a higher line than the ART 710?
As I understand it (I haven't laid eyes on an HD10) the HD10 (now discontinued) was much lighter and much lower powered
Got both tuned different
Musically: JBL G2
Sonically: Rcf Art710
Max performance: k12/Cp12
the JBL sounded the most harsh
To me, on the acoustic track, the JBL sounded the closest to an actual acoustic guitar to my ears, but I do think the treble is a bit forward for my taste, especially on the Fleetwood Mac song. To me, the K12 sounded the best closely followed by the RCF box (slightly recessed treble to my ears, but not bad at all) and the CP12. (The treble of the CP12 seemed to have the high mids correct, and the highest of high treble correct, but was missing something in between the two, and though there was definitely good volume in the bass range it didn’t extend as deep to my ears. )
K12 best, JBL last.