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Theoretically Yuta wouldn't even need his domain, he just needs to fully manifest Rika and use a maximum output Jacob's ladder
Yuta when mahoraga adapt to "beam": 💀
@@alyax- like to see that happen when mahoraga get burned into ashes literally by pure love
would mahoraga adapt to jacob's ladder? Can you adapt to something that stops your adaptaion?
immovable object vs unstoppable force
@@11av18shiji surely pure love is enough to wipe mahoraga off before he can adapt
@@Replytomeifgay No it isnt, pure love tied with a granite blast from exhausted Ryu lmao
Yuta is so lucky, his classmates are Maki and Panda (no CT), his senpai is Hakari (without a specific CT), his teacher is Gojo (CT, which you cannot use correctly without six eyes), his second teacher is Miguel (possibly without CT), his kohai is Yuji (no CT), Nobara (unfortunately died before meeting him) and Megumi (probably can't copy 10 shadows). How can it be so unlucky that all the useful CT you copied were from your enemies you fought 1 month ago😭
He would be able to copy ten shadows but he’d have to spend time to master it enough to use it without rika in the same way he did cursed speech
He could definetly copy the Ten Shadows, nothing implies that he wouldn't be able to. He did copy Sukuna's CT after all.
Nah the dancing tecnique from Miguel was wasted😭
Todo's Boogie Woogie... 😭@@ichiro9553
Died, you say?
My Boy Wuta got this!!
I think people are stupid, the only way to kill mahoraga is to one shot him , he has many techniques but none that can one shot mahoraga
@@pbsuite One Jacobs Ladder ends the fight, it extinguishes cursed techniques and Mahoraga is a Shikigami of the Ten Shadows, a cursed technique.
Also Cursed Speech and the Rika love beam are also viable
jacobs ladder is overrated af, its a controverial power because if its so powerful, then why didnt it kill sukuna , jacobs ladder is a maximum output and it couldnt kill sukuna, mahoraga is too durable
Maki is being compared to mahoraga because of his durability
At the end of the angels ct is controversial itself , but he cant kill 15f sukuna or mahoraga,
@@pbsuite It doesn't matter because it extinguishes cursed technique, if Mahoraga was a sorcerer then you'd have an argument but because Mahoraga is an extension of a cursed technique it would just one tap
@@pbsuiteJacobs ladder extinguishes cursed techniques idiot sukuna isn't one 😑😑😑😑 but mahoraga is and even then it damaged sukuna greatly,it would just extinguish mahoraga since mahoraga is a cursed technique stop making a clown of yourself
lets talk about how unfair gege is to yuji. bro gave yuta a copy technique an external hard drive for cts and ce plus a broken domian expansion. all yuji got is soul punching and blood manipulation?
Supongo que a gege le gusta hacer sufrir a yuji para desarrollarlo, en el pasado gege dijo que no le gustaba yuji asi que ya se entiende la manera de actuar de gege
Supongo que gege le gusta que su protagonista no sea fuerte para desarrollarlo y mejorarlo poco a poco, es una manera de que sea interesante el manga
YESSIR W Mere upload 🔥🔥
10:20 this is semantics tbh. Angel's CT nulifies CT's, so a beam on Mahoraga, who is a manifestation of the 10 shadows, should take massive damage or evaporate
I was thinking Angel´s technique could work, but do we know if Lil Makora´s adaptation counts as a technique? is it evil? I´m guessing since at this point he´s not a part of Megumi´s technique but the generic summoned version then he probably doesn´t count as a cursed technique in use. Rihgt?
The domain just allows the attacks to hit automatically, as well as give him a larger stash of techniques to use. Yuta would still have to be able to use a technique to its largest extent to begin with in order to use Jacob's Ladder in his domain. It isn't too far to say that Yuta/Rika could restrain Mahoraga long enough to pull off the technique either.
The angel curse ct is a iffy cause it not clear if it would kill mahoraga cause it say it extermates the person curse technique so either your right and it one tap mahoraga or it more likely has to hit the person who has the ct in order to extermates it but sense Mahoraga is a shadow you would need to hit the one casting it to get rid of it all together it still not a one hundred percent win but Yuta has a way better chance than any character outside the top 2 and maybe kashimo cause of his Ct plus the sure hit he has.
2:28 it's stated that no one is history has ever tamed mahoraga so that 10s user couldn't have used mahoraga against the 6 eyes user all those years ago. Also, just because someone has the 6 eyes and limitless doesn't mean that they used it the same way gojo does, they couldn't have applied it differently which is why red ab blue worked on mahoraga but that's irrelevant since no one ever tamed mahoraga
They don't need to tame mahoraga to summon them. Gojo and megumi were implying that towards the end of the fight the previous ten shadows user summoned mahoraga against the six eyes used as a murder-suicide move
I don't think the other guy actually read jjk@@Wyrm7774
Megumi is proof you don’t need to tame Mahoraga, he summons him in shibuya. Toji has full knowledge of blue and red, Gojo comments that being part of a famous clan makes his techniques well known. It’s likely to suppose that a High level Gojo clan member would use blue and red when battling the Zenin, and the Zenin would definitely use Mahoraga.
what would happen if mahoraga deletes rika before DE? im guessing if they actually fought, then yuta would realize that rika would die instantly if she got hit by the sword and probably wouldnt use her, but how would his DE work without her? and lets say maho did manage to delete rika, then would yutas DE even function?
is mahoraga a cursed technique or is the "shadow" from which mahoraga emerges the cursed technique?
also i think you also missed pure love beam, i think it could potentially 1 shot mahoraga
There’s also getos technique that Yuta copied without his domain expansion which should be an to one shot Maho
Finally power scaling in the same universe
1 simple jacob ladder distinguishing either the user or mahoraga instantly defeats them, as it burn all techniques out
I think this would go well with you to debate over Kenjukus technique, it depends on whether it just needs to be activated in which that would just be the summoning or if it’s continuous use
Yuta cannot one shot Mahoraga with Jacob’s ladder. Remember a 16 finger Sukuna at 10% of his power tanked Jacob’s ladder. Yes with more time that attack would’ve killed him but Jacob’s ladder wasn’t an instant kill. Sukuna’s fire arrow and Gojo’s hollow purple were what instantly destroyed Mahoraga. If Jacob’s ladder needs time to effect Mahoraga will adapt to it. Even if Mahoraga adapts a little Yuta lost his chance.
I didn’t know people thinking yuta with Jacob ladder beats raga 😢what a sad and stupid world we live in.
One thing i think is super over looked with Wutas domain is the fact he can make cursed speech his sure hit technique imagine its just "die" or "kill yourself" or "incinerate" or any word on that level that would be nasty
In my opinion, Yuta is a perfect counter to Mahoraga due to his Curse energy output plus the diversity of techniques given to him by Rika.
W video I like it a lot! I agree with how you view Yuta. Honestly though I’d have to give it to Mahoraga if you consider it never shows feats of adapting to physical force and it’s throwing hands with relevancy (though not alot) to 15F Sukuna in physical prowess. He’s dodging Angel’s CT forsure especially if you think kashimo’s light speed. If not then Yuta takes it.
Okay, the fact that this is even a debate is embarrassing , first of all lets make it very clear
mahoraga has been potraited to be the strongest shikigami in jjk
He was able to adapt to malevolent shrine and was able to adapt to limitless, I love yuta but I struggle to see how he wins , sukunas domain has no barrier which makes him remove his weakness that it can be broken , yutas domain has a barrier , do you think yutas domain can contain mahoraga ?? , he breaks that domain instantly , and his cleave as a sure hit can't be as powerful as sukunas at all given he could only scratch sukunas face with it
Lets talk about jacobs ladder , jacobs ladder is shown to eraducate cursed object in a sorcerer , is mahoraga a cursed.object .... no , but lets assume he is , its not a single hit kill attack..as it couldn't kill sukuna..which means mahoraga adapts to it
I think.people are stupid and this shouldn't be a debate, 15finger sukuna would have lost to sukuna if he didn't have his fire arrow and gojo would have lost without hollow purple ....embarrassing debate
@@pbsuite that’s why I said I give it to Mahoraga…
Now that i'm seeing more yuta versus battles You just realize how broken yuta domain is If he could copy gojo's techniques imagine a hollow Purple as a sure hit technique
I think the reason Mahoraga didn't keep the adaptation of the limitless from hundreds of years ago is because the user changed.
Mahoraga is a Devine general angel's technique wont do much
When yuta said he could take on mahogara and agito at the same time that was cap
Haven't watched the video yet but If Yuta is maxed out on stats then he does beat Maho. His domain has many chances to one shot Mahoraga.
Yeah your part about no domain i dont agree with. 1) we see angel use jacobs ladder without a domain i dont see why yuta coudlnt 2) yuta fought uro and ryu after fighting at least 7 other sorcerers and a special grade cursed spirit i dont think he runs out fast just did a lot of fighting before
Worst case scenario domain expansion and Maho IS COOKED
A lot of people will disagree with me, but the only reason yuta can beat this moharaga is because it is weaker because its main point was to defend sukuna in the fight and did not use adaption much. If it was the moharagha megumi summon he would lose due to the fact that meguni moharagha main problem was to beat sukuna and was going all out and used adaption when he knew when to use it and moharaga can break domains and take note that yuta is powerfull because of rika moharagha has a sword that can kill any curse spirit.(This is my opinion btw its fine you dont agree)
I wanna point out mahoraga could easily adapt to malevolent shrine. 3 slashes and then adapted. Mahoraga doesn't disintegrate in just 3 slashes.
i just think yuta wins for his amount of cursed techniques especially his domain mainly cause maho couldnt adapt to them all
I don’t think he even needs domain he could just use Jacob’s ladder with out it as he can use techniques outside domain and since it can almost kill sukuna it’s cooking maho
Does Mahoraga have a cursed technique? 🤔
Yuta seems to be the perfect enemy to Mahoraga, since he can quickly flip through cursed techniques and keep the big thing from adapting
Not really...he only able to do it if he one shots Mahoraga... Remember Maho witstanded Malevolent Shrine which is quite literally impossible except hím and Gojo...this fight isnt even close...
off topic, but about yuji and yuta vs sukuna
yuji literally couldve ended the fight there and now because of his (not blood manipulation thats his 2nd) cursed technique
he can swap souls
he couldve just swapped souls with megumi and taken over his body to end the whole sukuna situation
hell, it wouldnt even kill him like the piccolo and goku vs radditz situation, he could just swap for enough time for yuta to get a hit in and secure megumi
the ONLY reason they lost is because yuji is fucking stupid, they literally had it there and then
Why are you talking like you know exactly how the ability works?
I don't think it will be so easy maybe he needs other person's permission if they are not very weaker to him in this case megumi
Honestly at this point Sukuna has so much plot armor its getting boring as hell, like he should just get one shotted by jacobs ladder, i mean even his cursed technique gets too overhyped, like what can he do cut stuff? There are much better cursed techniques than cutting stuff that crap is so overhyped. Jacob's ladder is literally a full on anti-cursed energy orbital strike, shit is like mahoraga sword but instead of a sword, its a full on kameameah like how is the dude gonna survive that shit a couple times after being severelly injured, at this point they should just bring him to the back of the barn and put him out of his misery. It's not worth it, and all these edgy kids that keep riding him are annoying as hell.
I think Yuta would use Shikigami or Cursed Speech to buy him time to actually get Cleave or the Angel's Cursed Technique in one of the swords and if those don't one-shot Mahoraga, he dead. I'm rooting for Yuta though.
Nothing in yutas arsenal can one shot mahoraga
Heres is the thing, mahoraga adapted in sukunas domain , he was suppose to be atoms but he walked in sukunas domain , yuta was way over his head thinking he could kill mahoraga,
@@pbsuitelol shut up, yuta has maximum output Jacob ladder, Cleave and dismantle Sukuna technique and Love Beam. He fodderises Mahoraga
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Love beam couldn't one shot geto and it takes time to build up
Jacobs ladder isnt powerful enough to kill mahoraga , mahoraga isnt a cursed object, he is a shikigami, we dont know enough on how it would interract with him
Cleave and dismantle wont instantly kill him. Stop the agenda , hes not killing mahoraga
@@pbsuite bro, u just assuming everything. Just cause Jacobs ladder didn't affect Sukuna, doesn't mean it won't affect Mahoraga.
Love beam is slightly less powerful compared to granite blast which was most Ce Output attack in JJK.
Sukuna dismantle and cleave, wouldn't affect but his fire arrow will.
Mere, Cleave didn't kill Mahoraga when 15F Sukuna used it. How does Yuta win by using cleave with his domain expansion?
What scares me is how many people believe this guy ,
Okay, the fact that this is even a debate is embarrassing , first of all lets make it very clear
mahoraga has been potraited to be the strongest shikigami in jjk
He was able to adapt to malevolent shrine and was able to adapt to limitless, I love yuta but I struggle to see how he wins , sukunas domain has no barrier which makes him remove his weakness that it can be broken , yutas domain has a barrier , do you think yutas domain can contain mahoraga ?? , he breaks that domain instantly , and his cleave as a sure hit can't be as powerful as sukunas at all given he could only scratch sukunas face with it
Lets talk about jacobs ladder , jacobs ladder is shown to eraducate cursed object in a sorcerer , is mahoraga a cursed.object .... no , but lets assume he is , its not a single hit kill attack..as it couldn't kill sukuna..which means mahoraga adapts to it
I think.people are stupid and this shouldn't be a debate, 15finger sukuna would have lost to sukuna if he didn't have his fire arrow and gojo would have lost without hollow purple ....embarrassing debate
@pbsuite i've been seeing this comment of yours everywhere so I'm just gonna address this
Mahoraga did not adapt to malevolent shrine, he adapted to normal slashing attacks, which means that cleave would one shot mahoraga.
He also adapted to limitless through megumis soul which means that ain't happening in this fight
Also why are you saying he breaks yutas domain instantly? If this is based on him destroying unlimited void that is because he adapted through megumis soul which cannot happen in this fight.
Also yuta has like 6-7 techniques that he has copied, which means that either mahoraga is gonna try to adapt to all of em at once which would def be too long and yuta wins, or he adapts 1 by 1 which imagine he either adapts to Jacobs ladder, yutas has thin ice breaker and cleave. And if it adapts to the other one he worked have the other two.
Yuta would also have clairvoyance which just makes the fight that much easier since how is mahoraga gonna hit him unless he adapts to that one but then there's Jacobs ladder, cleave, and thin ice breaker as win conditions
Tldr =domain ain't gettin one shotted cuz megumis soul ain't adapting, yuta has too many techniques where mahoraga would take too long to take out the win conditions, also yuta knows how mahoragas ability works so he is def going all out no stops.
Bruh wb rika? The whole idea with yuta is you're constantly having to deal with two of him at the same time. Also what if he copied mahoragas technique?
Ik its a long shot but imagine how badass it would be to have half manifested rika bite maho and get slashed away just for yuta to run up and thin ice breaker his head and send a max output cleave at him.
In the same moment maho swings his sword deep across yutas chest just for there to be a *thunk* as a wheel materializes above yutas head. He heals with the adapting as he calls out rika and shoots a 200 percent love beam that vaporizes maho. (This is my story yuta gets a utihime and gakuganji amp you cant stop me)
Yuta wins and you can't convince me otherwise. Unless circumstances. Its at least 50/50.
Yuta is not sukuna or gojo. Remember when he had gojo body, he failed to use his body so i disagree
I think yuta just slams his different techniques in his domain too many for maho to adapt he defo out stats him so it’s just gg tbh
before watching i wanna say i think yuta wins cause he can pull out the executioner sword one hit gone
edit: realised that yuta probably did not copy that ability
edit 2: i agree, good video
Also the love beam would prolly one shot mahoraga as well
bro, sorry but this video is one of the strangest things I saw today, you're literally implying yuta would simply enter the battle, open domain and leave, even tho that's not how yuta fight, multiple times he didn't even opened his domain at all even at risk of dying, thinking he would just come, use domain and simply win is just straight up strange, not to say of course that alot of things in this battle are up in the air and even you said that, it's not a simple fight, alot of things have to be supposed and that already says that this is NOT a low diff battle, you implying that mahoraga would be one shotted by angel's latter is a complete assumption, the fact is, the ten shadows is a complex technique and we don't know alot of things about it, and shikigamis in general are also really weird, all we know about them is that they are summoned by a shikigami user and that they are not made out of cursed energy, seen that we saw agito and round deer are able to use reversed cursed technique, which is not necessary and impossible for curses, which could imply that the technique itself is not the shikigamis, but the ability to summon them via the shadows, as we see that the ten shadows give the literal ability of controlling well... shadows to the user, implying that would say that jacob's latter would not kill mahoraga, seen that he himself is not the technique, he is the result of a summoning, also the fact that we don't even know how mahoraga adaptation would face yuta's copy, seen that mahoraga being able to adapt to any and all phenomena implies that maybe can adapt straight up to the copy ability of yuta, not needing to adapt to any other after that, it's like would has to go from point a-c but instead of going a-b-c, he just jumps the b step, I'm also assuming alot of stuff, but that's the point, this is complex and an argument can be made for each one winning, and the only one who can trully say that is gege himself
THAT'S HOW HE FOUGHT AGAINST SUKUNA. YOU YAPPING ABOUT HOW HE FOUGHT IN THE SENDAI COLONY WHILE IGNORING HOW HE FOUGHT RECENTLY.
@@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011 he did not... he literally passed an entire chapter going hands against sukuna, he did not just enter already opening his domain, and just as I said and many other people also said, jaccob's latter isn't even a garanted win against mahoraga, seen that mahoraga and shikigamis are NOT the cursed technique, seen that they are not even made out of cursed energy (proven by agito and round deer, that both can use reversed cursed energy, something impossible for beings made out of cursed energy), shikigamis are summoned via a cursed technique, they themselves are not the cursed techniques, this video is full of misinformation and strange arguments that can be easily debunked or simply disproven by the fact that he has to assume alot of things without any solid proof
@@jcplays1749 HE WENT HANDS WITH SUKUNA FOR 2 SECONDS.... YOU JUST YAPPING.
@@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011 stop the cap, literally and figurativally, not to say that I can use your own argument against you lol "THAT'S HOW HE FOUGHT IN THE SENDAI COLONY. YOU YAPPING ABOUT HOW HE FOUGHT AGAINST SUKUNA WHILE IGNORING HOW HE FOUGHT PREVIOUSLY.!" try to use your brain bro, I swear it's not that hard
@@jcplays1749 YOU JUST YAPPIN AND YAPPIN OUT YOUR ASH. YOUR FANFICTION ISN'T REALITY NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU CRY. LOL
Couldn't Yuta just say "return" with cursed speech and dispell Mahoraga like Inumaki did to Divine Dog Black?
Maho is not tamed like that...he has more individuality and freedom than any other Shikigami...and he probably adapt to cursed speech
Is funny everyone is made because sekuna use megume body but yuta copy powers of others is ok😅😅😅
Yuta is a hard counter against Mahoraga.
bro yuta not winning against a 20f map mahoroga( unless).
1. mahorga would speed blitz yuta cause yuta CE reinforcement is < the ryu and we know Ce reinforcement amp speed, durability and strength equally except when amp by Ct like gojo or yuki ,so ryu faster, stronger & more durable than yuta which = 20f amp maho far faster than current yuta( bro can keep up with gojo speed while yuta can`t).
2. yuta slashes aren`t going to kill maho as yuta cleave(amp to 120% by DE)can`t even fatally damage a half his CE total sukuna which fresh 20f amp maho scales far above as it tank gojo punches and can block gojo black flash.
3. yuta isn`t even15f sukuna level in no regards so he`s not beating a 20f amp maho, unless open DE & one-shot maho with angel CT.
4. and if you don`t give maho his previous adaptation and then yuta should`ve have his new CT
5. then you run into a problem weaken sukuna is shown able to tank a yuta`s angel Ct sure hit head-on, 20f amp maho MIGHT be able to tank angel CT, outlast it and wait till yuta runs out of CE and can no longer maintain his DE( don`t known out come, but fresh 20f maho scales far above current in CE physical amp stats).
6. maho can literally one-shot yuta with a sword cut to his head and yuta pretty much as nothing to kill maho except angel CT maybe
my take feel free to disaggree.
Reka can use a powerful enough attack like with geto
it didn't even kill geto, you think it would kill mahoraga instantly?
@@jcplays1749 well in geto's case most off the impact was cancelled out by maximum uzumaki
@@jcplays1749porque chocó con Uzumaki. El impacto del rayo no lo recibió a full. Ahora. Que pasaría con un maho al desnudo? XD. Esa es otra historia
@@elgunt3er802 nada, o raio ter se chocado com o uzumaki não muda o fato de que o raio nem sequer tirou um braço do geto, um homen adulto de 1,90 metros, imagina o mahoraga que tem provavelmente mais de 3 metros e que (pelo menos no anime) tem a capacidade de mudar te tamanho, o rika blast não vai fazer absolutamente nada nele, no máximo do máximo fazer um buraco nele, coisa que não ia matar ele de vez, isso sem falar que aquele rika blast era um fodendo binding vow com envolvimento da morte do próprio usuario, que só não foi o caso pois a própria rika acabou se esvaindo por causa da quantidade de poder usado, algo que seria impossivel pro yuta atualmente, e mesmo se ele usasse realmente outro binding vow envolvendo morte de alguma forma milagrosa conseguisse matar o mahoraga, ele morreria junto, e isso é fato, ele não daria a mesma sorte denovo
I think moharoga wins because he had better feat against sukuna than yuta
Yeah Mahoraga slaps Yuta lol
Yea in ur headcanon
Guys yuta can't beat mahogara
Yuta one shots yeah it's not close
yuta cant oneshot mahoraga no way he slams
Bruh, Love Beam is has second highest output compared in culling game player which includes Kenjaku, Yuki. It's not even comparing attack power that Love Beam has
Mahoraga is so shafted in vs battles man, its always "he can't keep adapted techniques" ok prove that lol, give mahoraga his full kit and stop downplaying him, give him his space slash, ya'll give Yuta his full copied kit but wont give mahoraga his adaptations that you can't prove he doesn't keep. So dishonest.
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Mere thinks Yuta can use domain expansion for the win. Interesting. Mahoraga was inside of Gojo's domain expansion in that fight with Gojo and Sukuna. Mahoraga was just fine in Infinite Void lol. I'm sure Mahoraga will have a peaceful time in Yuta's domain as well.
THe fact that people actually think that yutas domain can contain mahoraga is laughable
mahoraga broke gojos domain .....
HE probably breaks it instantly
Do some recalculating my boy mahoraga was only fine in gojos domain is because sakuna was adapting to it before he even summoned mahoraga
People say its not close but yuta was ready to two v one mahoraga and the other totality and no one in the verse denys he couldve done it he just wouldve been in the way. Yuta gets a mid to difficult diff on both of them easy
Nah, he’d lose
Yuta has the output to kill Mahoraga. Cursed Speech can pause him once, he has Love Beam (which is almost strong enough to stalemate Ishigori's charged up Granite Blast, which has the highest CE Output of any Culling Games Sorcerers). Rika is also strong enough to stall him because she could throw hands with Heian Era Sukuna without being fully manifested. Worst case scenario: Jacob's Ladder disables Cursed Techniques. Mahoraga is a Cursed Technique as he is the Tenth Shadow
granite blast could't oneshot yuta, rika and ryu himself. Mahoraga tanked dismantle before adaptation, and sukuna's version tanked gojo's black flash. I doubt love beam which is weaker than granite blast can seriously injure mahoraga. Besides, vo.0 love beam is much stronger than current love beam^6 because yuta used a binding vow to remove the output restriction.
@@f135-m2s That's because Yuta and Rika are one of the most durable characters in the series, and it's made up of Ryu's CE so it makes sense why he would tank it and even without that fact he would still be able to tank it. Mahoraga didn't tank dismantle before adaptation not sure from where you pulled this off, but Sukuna's dismantles were going through him. Mahoraga never tanked Gojo's black flashes he guarded against them and was still heavily injured, Mahoraga was at risk of getting 1 shot by a normal output red from Gojo. In conclusion outside of a domain Granite blast has the potential to delete half of Mahoraga and inside the domain potentially even destroy him.
A CE blast from Yuta inside the domain while Rika is manifested would be bad for him, additionally Yuta has many more wincons inside the domain as well aside from his CEO.
okay brother, love beam that even when buffed by a death involving binding vow was not able to instantly kill geto but it will kill mahoraga, makes sense, not to say you're comparing heian era sukuna that was (implied by sukuna himself) with cursed energy reserver around the level of yuta's, and with obviously yuta himself and itadori there, not to say that the point of mahoraga being the cursed technique is simply a assumption, seen the technique itself is the ability to control shadows and summon ten shikigamis from the shadows, cursed techniques have to be made out of cursed energy, and that's not the case with shikigamis, seen that agito and round deer are able to use reversed cursed technique to heal themselves and others, which would be impossible for anything made out of cursed energy
@@jcplays1749 the biggest misconception with Ryu is that people think he has the highest output in history meaning highest offence but what he has highest is raw CE output not overall output, Hollow purple probably has higher output than Granite blast but Gojo cannot directly fire a CE beam on Ryu's level, so a granite blast level of attack shouldn't be able to kill Mahoraga
@@Endmaten1 reread chapters 233,235. Mahoraga clearly tanked gojo's serious punches and used his sword to block two black flashes. Yes several dismantles went through him, but it was megumi's mahoraga and it only gives him more credit, since he survived it(gojo died after one slash went through him). Also, in one of the frames, Ryu casually tanked love beam with little damage. Deleting half of mahoraga is bs, if granite blast only knocked out heavily beaten up ryu, i don't see how it goes through maho, even 120% (love beam is weaker than granite blast)
Mahoraga loses badly to opponents who have options to multiple different techniques, especially ones that all work completely different from one another
Okay, the fact that this is even a debate is embarrassing , first of all lets make it very clear
mahoraga has been potraited to be the strongest shikigami in jjk
He was able to adapt to malevolent shrine and was able to adapt to limitless, I love yuta but I struggle to see how he wins , sukunas domain has no barrier which makes him remove his weakness that it can be broken , yutas domain has a barrier , do you think yutas domain can contain mahoraga ?? , he breaks that domain instantly , and his cleave as a sure hit can't be as powerful as sukunas at all given he could only scratch sukunas face with it
Lets talk about jacobs ladder , jacobs ladder is shown to eraducate cursed object in a sorcerer , is mahoraga a cursed.object .... no , but lets assume he is , its not a single hit kill attack..as it couldn't kill sukuna..which means mahoraga adapts to it
I think.people are stupid and this shouldn't be a debate, 15finger sukuna would have lost to sukuna if he didn't have his fire arrow and gojo would have lost without hollow purple ....embarrassing debate
None of yutas arsenal can kill mahoraga in a single hit
Mahoraga has the strength to break a domain but only if hes given the chance to, or he has been given time to fully adapt to it, and with the way yutas cursed technique and domain expansion REVOLVES around using multiple techniques that all vary in uniqueness, mahoraga would get taken apart badly, his adaptation only works on opponents who have a limited amount of options, thats why he lost to gojo despite adapting to infinity and red, he wasn’t given time to adapt to purple. Mahoragas strong, but like i said, being strong doesn’t save you from getting knocked around by multiple different techniques
@@pbsuite this is why the ten shadows exists, and why hes the ultimate reward, they have varying different uses that if used right can defeat mahoraga, yuta also has that benefit along with a broken ass domain expansion
@@justaguywithagoodphoto4801 problem is that yuta doesn't have enough power to stop mahoraga before adaptations begin.
His strongest move couldn't even kill geto who is far below Mahoraga in durability.
@@ineedalife6 that depends on whos using mahoraga at that point, i think the love beam is more then strong enough to kill mahoraga, and thats due to the fact that is an experienced yuta now and not simply a yuta who was just barely figuring out how to use cursed energy. Which greatly changes how the fight goes, hes got options, rika, and he also has knowledge to properly weaponize everything
Depends on what mahoraga r we talking about. Let me explain, the shikigamis grow stronger if the user is stronger. Megumi mahoraga was 13-15 fingers of sukuna, but meguna mahoraga…. It was equal to 19-20 fingers and had the world cutting slash. Gojo himself said that mahoraga was on pair with meguna’s power. Yuta is equal to 17 fingers, so yeah mahoraga would slap yuta
After current chapter and what yuta pulled off, he low diffs mahoraga 😂
No bullshit
Are you serious , I think anime fans have low.memory , let me remind you that mahoragas sword.of extermination has broken gojos domain
He has superhuman speed and strength , stop embarrassing yourself
@@pbsuitemahoraga had already adapted to UV tho so that’s a moot point,
Strength speed and durability is quite common in anime so idk what your talking about, Yuta has been stated to be especially tanky and hard to kill due to RCT, and positive energy isn’t going to kill him, it’s only going to heal him if anything
Then u have to scale them
15 finger sukuna no diffs mahoraga
Current yuta is harming sukuna multiple times before his domain expansion, and in his domain expansion has shown he can definitely fight sukuna at 20 fingers
@@ultrabusterninja9424 current sukuna is.weakened by yuji and is at 10fingers after fighting gojo. So ..think again
@@pbsuite never stated he’s at 10 fingers he at 20, having half the cursed energy amount doesn’t make his output any weaker, and the only thing weakened was his RCT output, the point of the hiean form was that it was a full revive.
Again, this sukuna’s only nerf at this point was RCT output, and maybe cursed energy amount and/or ce output
Being weakened by Yuji doesn’t matter, the only reason Yuji even hit him was because of Yuta first,
It’s also clear that Yuta and Rika did the most damage
Imagine bro just tames mahoraga and has rika and him 💀
First of all, yuta was STARTING to run low on cursed energy in that fight, and he had previously fought several other sorcerers including two special grades. THEN tanked thin ice breaker and granite blast which are both very powerful to heal from, yuta had been active for awhile before STARTING to run low. Secondly, Yuta can use his CT’s outside of the domain but he can only use them once while rika is active, but one jacobs ladder would kill mahoraga. even if that DIDNT kill mahoraga, yuta’s love beam is stated to only barely be weaker than granite blast which is the highest output blast from the person with the highest CE output in the series, one granite blast destroyed several blocks of the city when he used it against yuta and uro at the start, and love beam is only BARELY weaker than it, so yes his output is enough to kill mahoraga. Plus mahoraga’s adaption would be divided and couldn’t focus on everything as effective at once, so multiple CT’s would slow adaption down. Overall, Yuta slams. PLUS let’s not forget cursed speech has been shown to be able to say “return” to shikigami and they instantly disappear soooo..yuta wins
He cant only use them once while rika is active. He uses sky manipulation multiple times
jacob ladder oneshot mahoraga, mahoraga its a curse technique, and jacob ladder cancel any CT, ppl cry to much with the "1v3" that they just dont remember mahoraga is not a sorcerer, its a curse technique 😭
@@mariano8085Mahoraga is NOT a CT. Mahoraga is a shikigami that is summoned through a CT.
That’s like saying Getos curses are CT’s. No, they are curses controlled through a CT. Mahoraga is a Shikigami controlled through a CT. It would not cancel him.
Mahoraga isn't weak enough tobe beaten by yuta with that shit base won't be enough and there's a huge chance that jacobs ladder might not work comment above mine explains it well
Mahoragas healing and tanking abilities are more than enough to deal with base yuta stop thinking like yuta is up against a glass cannon that's pure bs
@@usurperzo Mahoraga is a shikigami that's summoned through the 10S technique that uses the shadows as a medium. You nullify the CT would mean you nullify the connection of the user and the medium resulting in the shikigami's deactivation.
Let's not go into headcanon now, Hana is stated to nullify any CT, there's no exception.
Not trying to be a hater because I enjoy your content and agree with this video but bro you padded the length of the video for SO LONG by just repeating yourself over and over again in several parts of the video and going back after lengthy explanations to repeat the premise over and over like yes I get it, Yutw would use Jacob's Ladder to delete Mahoraga
This your art on thumbnail? That is so clean man! Epic
Retrotheartist on twitter, he’s a beast
List it in the description @@xmere
With cleave/dismantle and now angels technique I don’t see how Mahoraga wins now. Buddy has to adapt to 6 different curse techniques in order to win. Lets not forget about Rika to whose physically stronger than Yuta himself
we don't know how mahoraga's adaptabilty would face against yuta's copy technique, seen that he mahoraga can adapt to any and all phenomena, meaning that there's a chance he adapts to the whole concept of copied techniques, meaning no matter what yuta uses, if it's from his copied arsenal, mahoraga could easily adapt to it, this is obviously a theory, but anyways, rika gets one shotted by mahoraga seen that he can use positive energy and it would destroy her easily, and that yuta does not have anything with the destructive capability to destroy mahoraga asside from the jaccob latter, which would not even work against mahoraga probably, seen that mahoraga isn't a cursed technique (this is literally a misinformation invented by mere) mahoraga is shikigami, that is not made out of cursed energy, he is summoned via cursed energy and a cursed technique (him not being made out of cursed energy is proven by agito and round deer, both can use reversed cursed energy to heal themselves and others, which is impossible for being made out of cursed energy to do, already proves he's not a cursed technique himself) and don't even bring the "but his adaptabilty would be deactivated" because his adaptability is never refered as being a cursed technique, no shikigami posses cursed techniques, they simply can do things with cursed energy that other beings can't
unmanifested rika is comparable to current sukuna, rika easily takes strength from maho
@@ggabraf rika is made out of cursed energy and would get one shotted, 15 finger sukuna himself stated that if he was a curse at the moment he fought mahoraga, the first blow would have killed him because it is imbued in positive cursed energy, not to say that rika is 3v1ing a sukuna with about 50% of his cursed energy reserve (he said he had roughtly the same amount as yuta when he entered the battle, and yuta stated that sukuna have around 2x more cursed energy than him) and with that said, sukuna didn't land alot of hits in rika because she was being only partially summoned alot of the times, for god's sake bro, rika got destroyed by one of ryu's punches, the same ryu that got one shotted by 15 finger sukuna, the same sukuna that said himself he would have died from mahoraga's first blow if he was a curse, mahoraga cleans the floor with rika
yeah but the only way to beat it is to completely destroy it. im pretty sure yuta only has one attack capable of that.
@@MG-zx3px jacobs ladder, cleave & dismantle and rika love beam + maybe cursed speech depending on how it interacts with shikigami
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W video
Lmaooo thanks
"Not be close" is VERY true while being very false.... had me thinking you thought Yuta would blitz Maho 😭
I cant take youtubers with agenda seriously ,
Gege has made it very clear that mahoraga is the ultimate cheat code, the longer you fight him ,the lower your chances of killing him
Jacobs ladder cant instantly kill mahoraga, its debatable if it can even work on him
Stop the agenda
@@pbsuite It nullifies cursed techniques .Mahoraga is part of the ten shadows cursed technique.
@@fireknight12390he is a shikigami summoned by the technique also in this scenario mahoraga can not be helped by a 10 shadows user so its weird to say he just disappears
@@neferpitou.The fact that Sukuna took significant damage simply because his heian era form was produced through CE (even though he’s not a CT). Saying that because Mahoraga is a shadow, but isn’t a CT and doesn’t get instantly eviscerated is a bit weird to say
@@ttv.Just_Senju I don't fully understand what you are saying but what I mean is mahoraga is a summon he isn't an aspect of ten shadows he is like a person in that technique but also for the purpose of this fight taking mahoraga as a single shikigami it will be weird to just say he is a technique and Jacobs ladder erases techniques, it's even weirder cause Jacobs ladder doesn't do instant damage it's more like over time and that's bad when your aim is to kill mahoraga immediately with one attack
Mahoraga being able to produce positive energy makes it hard to believe he is a simple mass of cursed energy that would be destroyed by Jacob’s ladder
Sword not him *
@@raynerkefe4413he can output positive energy, used against sukuna after spinning the wheel.
@@somerandomdude1605 he changed the output of **the sword** making it just use normal CE, there is no proof that mahoraga by itself can use RCT
Reminder that jacob's ladder has yet to be fully completed as both times it was used megumi caused both users of it to end it early. Just because you can output rct(through his sword) doesn't mean you can resist jacob's ladder,it's an extension of angel's technique which is ct ereasure it's way beyond RCT.
@@WaituSnaiku no, he switched from throwing Positive Energy punches to Cursed Energy punches in the Manga after one adaptation.
My GOAT Mere great vid as always!!!! Would love to see a video ranking currently the strongest characters in the manga/ Who deserves the special grade title?
Nope is not same the power of shukuna
Yuta pulling out technique number 3762 after mahoraga adapts to technjque number 3761
Copy is basically a perfect counter for Mahoraga's Adaptation
shibuya and shinkju maho are two different ones
1st one can somewhat contend with a supressed 15f sukuna
the other is blatantly keeping up with a weakened gojo vs sukuna
realistically yuji stands no chance against shinjuku
shibuya is the one head beat
Heres another scenario. Would yuta beat 15 finger sukuna?
"The answer is yes, and badly yes." So if a 15 finger sukuna can beat and be somewhat even with mahoraga then why would yuta vs mahoraga even be a debate 💀
I feel like yuta lowkey low diffs maho, mahoraga's entire deadliness comes from their durability, and adaptation. but considering yuta literally has like 6+ stored cursed techniques, and has the output equivalent to heavy hitters in the series, I think it makes him essentially a hard-counter to maho
Yo mere, I love the new style of thumbnails.Keep up with the W vids.
Thank you so much bro!
Imagine mahoraga adapts to copy in general 😂
do you think if yuta jumped in when he wanted they wouldve won? because they claimed yuta wouldve gotten in the way but I think that was just a reason for the fight and story to go on. realistically I see yuta jumping in popping de with everyone in it and have gojo vs sukuna 1v1 while yuta and rika fight agito and mahoraga with the sure hit of angels technique. it would instantly force sukuna to pop hien era form and make him hold the hand sign for hollow wicker basket while FIGHTING GOJO, and mahoraga and agito would most likely be instantly decimated like you said if even lets go of the hand seal.
At that time mahoraga had the world Slash so If yuta tries to go in he either gets one shotted by mahoraga's world Slash or sukuna Just sends a big dismantle and kills him, yuta said It himself that If sukuna wasn't weakend by everything that happened he would be annihilated by that series of dismantles, plus sukuna didn't even chant those.
I think they would win because maharaga would either have to stop the limitless adaptation so he can adapt to yuta or fight yuta without adaptation and agito doesn’t seem very strong. That would make it sukuna vs gojo 1 vs 1 which gojo would win and yuta could just use his domain expansion when sukuna has no domain expansion. Also if yuta jump in then everyone else would as well which I think would be to much for sukuna.
@@jasperking442 Bro did you read a single thing that i wrote? Yuta is not stalling mahoraga because he gets one shotted by world Slash and mahoraga can literaly trow world cutting dismantles, and sukuna can one shot him in a Blink of an eye Just like It was stated by yuta himself, "If he wasn't weakend by everything that happened he would have annihilated us in an instant" and that shit was a normal dismantle Net without any chants with a much lower output than in Gojo fight.
Plus Agito was almost keeping up with Gojo, sukuna and mahoraga, he was not that dar back, plus he can use electricity with doesn't affect Gojo because of mugen but it does affect yuta and he has RCT, and If he was in the fight Gojo wouldn't be able to trow the Blue that killed agito, or the unrestructed hollow purple, because Gojo's technichs affect everyone in the range and that includes yuta.
And another point would be that maybe Gojo wouldn't even be able to land the Black flash on mahoraga and the other If he wasn't fighting ALL of them at once, because you have to be at your absolute limit, in a situation of extraordinary concentration and life treatning situation to land a Black flash, and If mahoraga wasn't there with the world Slash he wouldn't feel that way.
I'm pretty sure they could of won right there, Yuta would not be one shoted by Sukuna because he was already weakened at that point, Maho wouldn't one shot Yuta either because the world slash of Maho was made to be used against Gojo not Yuta, he should be able to one shot both Maho and Agito with Jacob's L, and if for some reason that didn't work he still has his domain, and if that didn't work either both Yuta and Rika physically scale to Heian era Sukuna, who's way stronger than Maho and Agito.
@@JPBerty01 no tf I didn’t read anything you wrote because I’m not talking to you
is this guy forgetting yuta can use techniques outside of his domain? the litteral point of him winning is him finishing the fight early that's litteraly in character1; also he ran out of cursed energy not because he healed but because he outputed positive energy
i think mahoraga still wins yuta needs to beat him in 5 minutes at most after that he loses rika and the fight gets much worse assuming rika doesn't die immediately she gets cut by mahoraga's sword yuta's attacks arent strong enough to one shot mahoraga my opinion i will guess he will switch techniques constantly to not allow him adapt fully but i think especially since its sukuna's mahoraga he is just too strong and will eventually adapt to everything
WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU JUST YAPPING NONSENSE.
Yes, mahoraga even broke gojos domain, um sure he can break yutas domain pretty easily
@@pbsuite ARE YOU INSANE?
if anybody doubts yuta cant kill mahoraga now with ease you're jibbing.
Your also pushing an agenda , stop.it.
@xmere You're ignoring speedscaling. 15f sukuna blitzed ryu who is on par with yuta, while mahoraga was somewhat keeping up with gojo and 20f sukuna. Some people say that yuta was holding back, but that's not true at all. He wanted to beat them without killing and causing collateral damage as a quickly as possible, but ended up using his CT and BIQ to defeat ryu, which would't be the case if he was so much stronger and faster than ryu
There’s also the time skip with yuta he probs speed blitz ryu now or at least is extremely faster than him now
One thing - current Yuta is stronger than the Yuta that fought Ryu
Sakuna said the current Yuta is stronger, and plus he was fighting two special grades, like y’all state facts or stfu
@@raynerkefe4413 sukuna said everybody improved their ce manipulation level, but it isn’t clear by how much. Yuji and yuta were keeping up with heavily weakened sukuna after gojo fight + yuji lowering his output. Ryu who is relative to yuta got completely blitzed by 15f sukuna. While mahoraga is somewhat keeping up with gojo, which means that he is around 18-19 fingers(likely slightly slower than full power sukuna who is slightly slower than gojo). I really doubt that one month of training closed so much gap in speed difference.
Yuta was holding back, idk what story you're reading 😂
I think is like a new mahoraga for every new inbocator 2:50
In Megumi's Domain he could summon multiple Mahoraga jumping Yuta. Unless Yuta's Domain would erase chimera shadow garden.
Lol you must be reading Kukutsi Jaisen, in what world is that canon???
Yuta's domain is more refined then megumi's so it would just overpower megumi's domain in a domain clash
Multiple Mahoraga what head canon you talking about?
@@ck10clan10harveyhe means if sukuna or megumi combined mahoraga with rabbits lol😂
@ck10clan10harvey megumi can summon multiple shikigami clones, including himself in his domain
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Bro mahoraga will win
Rika is strong enough to stall Mahoraga (maybe even kill him with the True Love Beam), while Yuta can keep switching up his Curse Techniques. The two biggest counters to Maho, that is having the Strength to stand toe to toe, and having enough options to keep outpacing his adaptation. Them being a duo is even worse, as Rika will stop Maho from getting to Yuta, while Yuta is the one dealing the real damage.
Maho's only shot here is outpacing Rika and getting ahold of Yuta early on before they figure out how to kill him
Yuta is too overrated and overhyped...the copy Technique is only allow him to use others Technique for 5 minutes...which Mahoraga would easily can wait...and if someone can hold up against Yuta for 5 minute they can kill hiüm...
One question though. Do you think mahoraga can adapt to Yuta´s healing? Or does he only adapt to energy/techniques that are targeted at him and not to observed phenomena? Because imagine if it could start attacking in a similar way to Yuji. Attacking Yuta´s soul directly to make it a lot harder or nigh impossible to heal. Look! Lil Makora is evolving. It became a Mahoragahito!
But why do we forget that before fighting Uro and Riyu he fought 7 other people or curses because he had 35 points
Plus Kurourushi
8:10 “Return.”
Actually super clever- (forgot Inumaki said that to divine dog) except for the fact that Mahoraga can just be resummoned by the user. He doesn't get destroyed, but cursed energy does get used up by him being summoned
@@doopdope2211 Just wait until after he almost kills the user, and then say return.
@@TheManDude If you mean Mahoraga almost killing the user then that works, if they haven't yet tamed Mahoraga that is
Yuta has so many moves raga cant adapt
To argue yuta using shrine imo they should be similar strengh since yuta dismantle did abt the same amount of damage as sukunas did on gojo with imo sukuna and gojo having similar physcial stats
Yuta would be mahoraga’s nightmare. Yuta has probably 100s of cursed techniques copied mahoraga wouldn’t be able to keep adapting to win he needs time to adapt to each technique.
I wouldn’t say nightmare, considering we don’t exactly know if maho can adapt to multiple things at once but I would say he can. It would basically accumulatin in Yuta running out of options assuming he doesn’t just one shot maho which is debatable
I mean, the executioner sword is portrayed as a one shot to cursed spirits bc its imbued with reverse technique, so if mahoraga gets a hit in rika, she dead, and yuta alone probably would lose
Do you think Mahito could turn Mahoraga into toothy silly putty? could mahoraga´s soul adapt to that? could mahito distort mahoraga´s soul to the point it loses the ability to adapt?
I feel like either Mahoraga's Adaptation resets each fight, or they build up only for the user. It doesn't really make sense to say that Mahoraga would keep other user's adaptations from hundreds of years ago
DIsagree with your final analysis, but can´t refute it without mere speculation. I do love your narrative style and analysis. Thanks for the content.
Why didn't Yuta eat an arm from Megumi and tame the ten shadows and just go ham on everyone?
Maharaga can speed blitz yuta as he can keep up with gojo and sukuna, and unless you think yuta's love beam is as strong is hollow purple or sukunas fire arrow than maharaga kills both yuta and Rika in maybe 3 minutes