Ex-Pro Female vs USTA 4.5 Guy!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 พ.ค. 2024
- This is a singles set between me and Anastasiia (aka Nastya) and our first time playing each other in singles! Nastya has an aggressive game with big shots from the baseline. I prefer staying at the baseline and hit with more spin. Leave some nice comments below for Nastya for playing this match with me she's a great sport and competitor!
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Winston (@winstonddu) - USTA 4.5
Nastya (@nastya_aleksandrovna) - USTA 6.0 (played ITF tournaments)
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0:00 - Intro
1:25 - Racket Specs
1:54 - Subscribe
1:59 - Set
14:49 - Outro
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You are 3.0 hacker. She is serving like a 4.0. The title is nonsense. You didn’t anything well. She hit too much in net - and why she did is you are a hacker. If she was good she would destroy that. Magen she doesn’t play much.
You clearly haven't played many 3.0s if you think Winston is 3.0 😀
If you see 3.0s that play like him, please provide a link.
@@jeffvanderwerf3391 What is he? Not anywhere near a 4.0. A 4.0 in Texas in very strong.
He’s not a 3.0, but you’re absolutely correct about his titles, they’re usually absurd and just objectively ridiculous.
“Former pro” could refer to literally anybody who earned a single WTA point. Her tennis is a good level, but is similar to a 5.0 woman. That forehand around the 6:40 mark is crazy bad…just a sitter forehand that she hits 8 feet long. No legitimate professional is doing that without mishitting it. She also lacks any sort of weapon….being #7 in D2 tennis does not translate to being a professional tennis player lol. I’m sure she had a great career and seems to be doing a lot of good in the sport she loves, but it’s disingenuous to call her a former pro
Winston is probably a 4.5 according to the USTA algorithm, but his tennis is much closer to a 4.0 in most areas.
So…saying a 3.0 is obviously not true at all, but I agree his titles are annoying and unnecessary. His videos would do fine without embellishing things, because it’s still good tennis and there aren’t many videos like this
🤣🤣🤣, if he's a 4.5 then I'm on the tour!!!
@@HappyPenguin75034 Winston is in SoCal, I believe, so plenty of tennis there. I live in NYC, and he would definitely be 4.5-ish here. I sincerely doubt 3.0 tennis players in Texas are all a sudden competitive with 4.5s in SoCal or NY.
Being a pro doesn’t mean she has to win a title or being world top 100. In fact, most pros never won a title in their whole career. When you are watching those top 100s battling for a title, there are 900 others battling for nothing.
"battling for nothing." --so cruel lol +1
Did this Nastya person even play in the WTA tour? I don't remember ever seeing her playing so I googled her name and WTA and nothing shows up.
@@user-ld6wo4rv8h her highest singles ranking was about 1,230.
@@loganfive5783 LMAO. But where did you find this info? I can't find it anywhere. I spelled her name exactly like her instagram. Did she use a different name while playing?
She could have played ITF. That's a different tour
Most people don’t know how much your level goes down if you don’t practice or do any matchplay for a long time. At a high level the margins are so small because of the ball speed. Even pros who haven’t played in years struggle to play singles once a lot of movement is involved. Don’t be so quick to judge people’s former levels just because they didn’t perform as expected in front of a camera. Anastasiia hits the ball well! Good content Winston!
you are right; however, even though John McEnroe hasn't played since the 70's- he would mopped the floor with a lot of college players.
@@yakzivz1104 he still plays and practices a lot. He regularly hits with juniors and pros. I watched him play a few sets. He may not be the best example because it's not like he's been sitting on the couch since he retired from tennis.
@@dariusd2003 yeah but he is nowhere near the level he was, as a much younger pro player. Also take Naratilova and Graf- both of them would also easily beat most college players. Also Hingis and Kuznetsova would also easily beat most college players.
@@yakzivz1104 There is no way McEnroe would beat any 12 UTR or even 11 UTR player
And most people never film themselves on the court. They will be amazed by how “well” they play on the video😂
She was being very generous. The ball landed out in the doubles court several times, but she still returned it.
Noticed that as well
First six minutes of play are what is known colloquially as a “long-ass game”
LOL
it's that kind of game where I realize why no-ad scoring was created :-)
"LAG" to the elite, if you will.
Really good quality. Thanks for sharing. Looking forward to seeing a full set!
Winston you are 4.5 level! I can see improvement in your game as well. Keep going. Also, these type of matches vs high level females are super entertaining. Keep doing them 🫶
What do the numbers mean ?
For all those people saying he's a 3.0, I'd like to direct them to this comment
@@Mr.Helper. 4.5 is usually the level of a middle of the road to solid men's D3 college player. Here is another description online:
4.5
This player has begun to master the use of power and spins and is beginning to handle pace, has sound footwork, can control depth of shots, and is beginning to vary game plan according to opponents. This player can hit first serves with power and accuracy and place the second serve. This player tends to over hit on difficult shots. Aggressive net play is common in doubles.
@@jah9253 that’s high level play.
Finally a someone with some knowledge of tennis. Coach Nick you are a good man my friend.
That first game was amazing. Well done. Would love to see full set.
Good grind from both! Loving it Winston. Cheers mate.
I would have called it after the 1st game. Good job to both of you for keeping it going. Looking forward to a rematch.
Probably one of the best matches you have posted. Really too bad it had to be abbreviated as I would have watched right to the end. Love close matches with solid rallies!
Thanks for posting Winston, very entertaining match and interviews!
wow her feet are always moving forward ready to be aggressive. she recovers reeeeally well ...Great job Nastya!!! Great to see this
This match was great, with both of you playing good tennis. I can't wait to see the re-match featuring Nastya.
Doesn't matter much what the rating numbers are -- this is amateur vs pro, and what a great content!
Curious about this system of assigning numbers for comparison of players. Just how are these numbers derived? What goes into the determination of the 3.0, 3.5, 4.0, 4.5?
Does defensive play style vs offensive style change the writing of the calculations?
If it's some purely objective algorithm that records historical quality of strokes or win success, is this number rounded off to the nearest half just to make it simpler, with a 3.14 rated player getting called a 3.0?
Interesting how this universal rating comes about-
Evenly matched I’d say. Excellent job serving in, obviously not going all out but impeccable serve percentage. Nastya played high risk high reward and it was reflected in having more winners than Winston, and Winston did an excellent job forcing Nastya into errors. Winston has great timing on his kick serve pronation as well. Great content again!
Should call yourself Winston deuce after playing 12 of them in the first game.
He’s already changed the spelling of Duece and shows it in the scoring for these videos. Seems like a bit of DU/DU, if you ask me.
Winston is a super confident guy and tennis player... always great content!
12 deuces in one game is a new record that will probably not be broken for a long time. It's like winning that game 16 : 14!!!
The biggest difference in the match was her serve+1 where she won 5 more points. The rallies over 4 shots were pretty even (she won 13 vs 12).
those deuces kept coming! was ready to fast forward the first game to see who won!
Love Nastya’s style! Good content, very enjoyable to see! Looking forward to the rematch 😊🎾🔥
Great playing Nastya and Winston. What an epic first game!
You played great, Winston! Your consistency has improved, I think. What I love about your videos that feature these great players is that it gives us a better understanding of how we would stack up against pros. I have always wanted to have a chance to hit with a pro playing at 100% even if they completely destroy me. 😂 Keep posting this great content. Thanks!
I don't think she is playing 100%..being ex-pro is a big jump from being current pro.. there's so much power, reaction time and accuracy that goes down a few notches when you're not current pro..
Fun to watch, I think there a big place on TH-cam for tennis content that isn't there yet. Keep up the good work
Wtf , Bro how u watch content on youtube if its not there yet?????
@@Nopanop umm videos like this? I’m just saying there’s not a lot of good, big tennis channels on TH-cam and this could be one
@@jakebrace It's definitely cool to see 'normal' people playing tennis. I mean 99.9999999% of the tennis players in the world are not top 200 in the ATP hehe So it's definitely filling a great niche of content to see someone consistently trying to improve his tennis game like we all are.
Definitely. Golf content is saturated now…would love to see more tennis on TH-cam!
Why is this so entertaining for you to watch? 😊
Love your forehand man, keep up the great work.
Could tell Nastya has not had much match play lately, she does some special things with the ball and was enjoying getting back some of the match instincts. Nice clean game and good for Winston to keep up - a few changes here and there, especially some hard work on the footwork side and some wind sprints, training and Winston could have kept the pressure on. Would be nice to see this match when both are match tough again - and ready to go.
The first game was a killer. She started dialing in the 3rd game. Nice looking former D2 player. No pretensions!
Great job Winston and Nastya. Enjoyable to watch.
Looks like a fun match...good work out. I would love to see Winston's game on clay as it seems thats what it is more suited for. Nice shots!
Please post the second set soon! Very entertaining! Thank you
Good video! Winston, two points. When you're pulled wide you consistently recover to the exact middle of the court, instead of just slightly off to the opposite side of your opponent. This gives you too much court to cover and you're missing the next ball by that one stride. Also, on ad side receiving, you're way too far out wide (to hit your forehand?) giving her the T serve which she burned you by...yep, one stride because of your positioning. You may get away with this with 4.0's and some 4.5's but better players can hit these angles when you give them this advantage.
Coach Mike
you don’t have to overanalzye it the most important is hit the ball on the other side, and if the enemy miss the ball u win
Wow her forehand technique is flawless! Great match, mate!
Dang that first game!! And Nastya's forehand is a beast!
you are a wonderful player and i love watching your videos! if you are ever in New England I would love to play with you :D
This was good to watch. Winston played well against a very strong player. Keep improving Winston. Good job.
Very competitive and yall were definitely going at it. I'm not huge into tennis but that ex pro was killing it. Also, she's gorgeous - woah.
After reading the description it now mates sense. I was like this is more like an even 4-4.5 match. You can see were the over power is being played and shots going erratically. On perfect placement forehands, you both have rippers. 🔥
She is GORGEOUS!
Winston has really come along since I started watching him. That forehand is very heavy. His all round game has improved but if he can get that serve a bit better and work on his mental toughness I think he can get to that 5.0 one day.
Winston is not to be underestimated. Giving talented players a run for their money.
His consistency playing with these higher rated players has improved his game leaps and bounds. I'd agree that he needs to improve that serve to reach 5.0 and he'd need to develop some type of weapon to win easier points, as everybody I play at 5.0 has that 'something' weapon that gets them easy points (which I don't see from 4.5 and down): big serve or big forehand or insane consistency or unreal defensive speed, etc.
@@MrPositive3D Good point. Never really thought about that "Something" weapon. For Winston it might have to be his forehand because I dont see it coming from anywhere else. Maybe if he can make it more lethal with accuracy, pace, hitting a bit earlier then he might be able to come into the net a bit more often and finish off point?
@@ALEN1ful I wish I could take credit for that mindset, but that's something my junior coaches would preach on constantly. And the more 'weapons' you can stack, the higher you go. I was watching Winston play that 7.0 guy (348 in the world I think they said) a few videos back and that dude has a wicked flat 1st serve and a monstrous forehand, and ran down balls wonderfully. His backhand was probably only a point higher than Winston's but it was consistent. Then you get 3/4 ridiculous weapons you get top 100. 4/5 ? A million earnings haha. 5? 6? Djokovic :) 1. Big serve, 2. big forehand, 3. best backhand in history? 4. Greatest retreiver to ever play. I mean the dude doin splits out here. hehe 5. Doesn't miss if he doesn't want to, while also hitting screamers at the same time 6. Tactician of a master chess player M. Carlsen level to breakdown any type of opponent :)
And yes, Winston's best chances of getting to 5.0 are pumping up his mph on his forehand (he should get a speed gun out there and try to increase his pop each week). As well, as learning a flat 1st serve as he's only hitting 2nd serve spinners for all serves. And of course keep working on his already very nice retrieving skillz.
@@MrPositive3D Well said.
Good content, I love your attitude fun to watch thx!
Hey Winston. I love your content here, I was curious to know if you'd be willing to share what you use to edit your scoreboard into your videos.
A lot of people i think have not filmed themselves in this angle and seem to think they can play better… lol. They should try uploading a video to show us. Anyways i think level is high, great video!
As a 4.5 (mostly doubles these days as I'm close to 50 and out of shape), I've played some singles points against a top D2 gal and her movement is insane. It doesn't seem to matter where I hit it, she is there. If I'm serving well as a lefty with all of the spins and placement, I can win points. But on her serve, it is next to impossible. FYI...not sure where Nastia is from but the gal I'm speaking of is from Poland.
From Russia
She rocks! Awesome, I enjoyed watching her play.
great video buddy, keep up the hustle brother!!!
Good vid! What kind of camera did you use to film this?
My hands got sweaty watching this. You guys are great.
Great video...makes me want to start playing again. Random piece of advice...looks like you're dropping your head at the last minute when you serve and you could generate a lot more power with basically the same technique if you got a little more torque in your hips. I havn't watched many of your videos but im a little curious why you don't seem to be moving in and punishing her serve at all? You seem to be behind the baseline even on her second serves? I know you said you like to stay at the baseline but based on your overall level it still seems odd that you wouldn't make this adjustment? She's also serving a ton to your forehand and giving you pretty good angles to attack but you seem super content on returning everything to the middle? She also clearly favors her forehand and on almost every ball you put in the middle she's running around it to her forehand.
Damn winston been improving his game! Nice match
To keep up with a former pro - rusty or not - on ground strokes is really impressive. To the clowns doubting your or her level: come up with the goodies.
I have three remarks: 1) did you realize her second serve always went slice to the forehand? I though you could capitalize more on that pattern.2) Your own serve needs work. It's consistent but it's lacking power. It's technically flawed, somewhat waiterish. Surely you know that after taping yourself so often. Any intent to fix it? Or is this where you decide to settle for the achieved consistency? 3) I also have the impression there's a brief instance after each shot where you are watching the result instead of recovering to neutral stance. Do you agree? This is something you can still fix without downsides, I think.
Those forehands!!!! Wow!!!
I got to playing tennis because my first crush played the game. It was the trashing I got from her that challenged me to train and would become more of an obsession to beat her than winning her hand. Over time, I caught up with her game and managed giving her bagel scores in some sets. Although it wouldn't be long before we would go our separate ways having had to go to different college universities, tennis remained as my main sport.
blows my mind how many ppl who are commenting are capable of putting out so much criticism on the video. to be frank i'm a total amateur and know very little about tennis, i just enjoy playing casually here and there, and i think these videos are fun to watch. thanks for the upload
For someone who said her fitness was off, she was running well enough that it took her 10 minutes to hit a single backhand. Which is impressive.
Enjoyed it. Both of you are great players! Don't think I could take either one of you. 😜
The main difference I see in their hitting is that she can force errors and make him late while he can't do that to her. She can hit outright winners. He can't. That's because she hits cleaner and has more "modern" strokes that he does. He pushes. She takes full cuts with topspin at the ball. She looks polished. He looks like a self-taught athletic guy. He's limited in what he does because of this. She's much less so.
I really like these woman vs men matches, nice work
Nice to see her using the CX 200 Tour and it looks to be an 18 x 20 too. That is a tough racquet to use but the feel is so good. I have one.
That was fun. I'm no expert but I thought you both played well! I've watched your videos before, without subscribing, but this time, the trolls in the comments put me over the edge - SUBSCRIBED!
What camera are you using? Phone? If yes what app? Or just the camera?
Coz you are filming a full match
Looooooong first game battle, wow. Half the video.
Watch Nastya after she hits, don't follow the ball. Her great footwork is really deliberate and second nature, that's what makes it the most apparent she played at such a high level.
Great content Winston, take a note of Nastya's footwork, try to incorporate similar movement and steps and preparation following your strokes too, it'll get your game to the next level. Your hitting is getting Great!
Just found your channel.
I thought both of you played some great points out there.
Really enjoyed the video.
Keep up the good work and ignore the trolls,…
They can’t even get off their mom’s couch let alone swing a tennis racquet!
lol
If she indeed didn’t play for 3 years - that explains it. If she plays regularly for half a year, her level will be very different, she’ll be killing that high spin. It’s not as easy to adjust to those counter punchers if you are rusty.
damn, she put Winston on defense all match long. her shots were extremely powerful, which is amazing considering her small body.
Tennis power is an interesting thing. Sampras was a bean pole hehe
you dont need much strength for power if your string tension is low
yeah, her body mechanics and form really contribute to strong pace.
thanjks. great vid. shows how hard it its to play against a better player. very few strokes were easy for winston but he adjusted well. he probably learned a lot in this game. he is definintely 4.5 . even though his footwork is not so nimble. i think a 5.0 would have made Nasty play steadier, harder and smarter.
Great playing from the two of you (though I wish I could play you Winston- I'd be dictating to your backhand and waiting for the inside-in-forehand explosion hehehehe). But as for the comments about the level of play, 2 things I have to say: 1.) I doubt Nastya is at her A-game if she isn't actively competing and training (sounds like she's coaching from what I heard). And 2.) for NTRP, once you get into the 3.5-4.5 realm, that can be very hard to differentiate skill-wise based on if it's a good/bad day, depending where the player is from, if the player is out of shape, making a comeback, battling injury, or playing against a certain player type.
Nastya you are my new fav person!! Just that 1st game ❤❤❤😂🤟💪🎾😀
I enjoyed the video. The way Nastya moves to short balls you can tell she's a high quality player. Watch out if she wipes the rust away
Where did you get your t- shirt? It looks comfy
Heck of a first game - way to persevere, both of you.
Winston you can go more for your shots. Feel like you are just playing defensive all the time. Also, as Krue said your footwork is heavy all the time and can hear your foot steps so loudly. Lighten your footsteps and be more on your toes.
I would agree that Winston is a 4.5. He's consistent and well-rounded on everything that he does. Not to disrespect, but I would expect Nastya to dictate every ball and be completely in control as a pro when playing against a 4.5 player.
She was just on another level compared to him. Always attacking at the net and keeping him guessing.
Great match, love it.
That was magnificent tennis.....She's a flame-thrower...🔥🔥🔥
Good match, literally the intro and first game is half the video LOL.
buen entrenamiento. Que tipo de pelota usaron?
Winston playin like a boss these days. Im 4.0 mens player and you're definately a level above me!
30 points in the first game! That's six points more than a golden set! Could have gone either way. Winston is a solid 4.5. Anastasia was obviously a top college player...number SEVEN int he nation!
Brian has quite a solid play so it takes quite some effort or a lot of skill to just push him away or score easy points. im not surprised that magen had huge problems but the title "ex-pro female" is hardly delivering the expectations.
In Germany we have LK ( Performance Rank )what is it compared to usta ?
Winston - if you read this, I think your two handed backhand would go up a couple levels if you think more about following through more with your left hand. You slice the ball a lot on the backhand side, and I think that's a side effect of not having total control with the topspin backhand. Just observe how your right hand snaps through on the forehand side. It needs to be similar with your left hand on the backhand side.
winston did really well but I suspect Nastya was a bit off her game. I noticed when she got a short ball, it was put away... like that's muscle memory. I'm interested to see how the 2nd set goes.
You can tell that Nastya is not in peak tennis shape right now. I thought she was pressing quite a bit during the match.
What an epic first game
Record for longest first game on the channel?
I've tagged 200+ matches at that level and it's the most deuces I've come across
What part of the country do people get these ratings from?? This guy is like a 3.0-3.5 max here.
Winston be sure to move those balls, don't wanna get injured over a ball hanging around the service line. Great content as always.
This first game was insane
Nastya has a great service motion.
It's 2053 and I am still watching the first game.
She hit twenty forehands before finally hitting a backhand...drop shot! Obviously prefers her forehand which makes sense since she hits it so well.
She's a beautiful player to watch; my phone isn't doing her justice.
Nice Video Winston.....still waiting on seeing you hit with Showtimeleh!!!
Enjoyed watching that - she was pretty good on that opening serve by hanging in there..
They played a whole set in the first game 😂
Winston's really gotta add some zip to that first serve.
If you watch some of the old videos you can see he already improved a lot! His second serves are now faster than his first serves used to be.
@@040FILI Yeah his game all round has improved a lot but if he can improve that serve a bit more it will go a long way. That and his mental toughness. I think he can get to 5.0 if he continues this way.
@@040FILI He's got solid groundstrokes too.
I used to play in high school. 15 plus years later I don't even know how to hold the raquet right
Aka Nastya. 😂 She was nasty in her game!
12 deuces in the first game?! You guys are awesome 🙌🏻
Love to see Nastya play Loki
Hey man, I really appreciate your content and what you do for tennis fans and the game. I like to be direct with people, and if you want to completely ignore this, it's fine since you don't know me. Anyhow, in my opinion, I think your forehand stroke is pretty ugly and loopy. I think you have a lot of potential to improve your game if you reconstruct that stroke and flatten it out to hit through it more. You would get a lot more power. You're hitting with topspin, but it's such a weak shot. It just sits up there and does nothing. Basically just like a more advanced pusher shot. If you are able to just hit through it and flatten it out more, then you can learn to modulate how much topspin you want. You can adjust your grip and see if you want to keep using Semi-Western or maybe switch to closer to an Eastern grip like Federer, which would facilitate a flat shot that you could still get a lot of topspin with if you use the modern topspin technique. It may be tough to switch to Eastern forehand if you aren't used to it, though.
Phew. First game was a grinder. I think Winston plays a lot so his fitness level is very high. He takes these former college players and "former pro" players by being patient and letting them beat themselves.