Thank you for watching 🤘 I know people will be wondering about the DBC Racing 310 but we did not have time to dyno that quad. Thanks again for watching and remember..... YOU ROOOOOCK 🤘🤘🤘
Ok that's good to hear man I hate to see this happen to anybody I lost my cousin and two of my riding partners praying for him bro..... Oh nice numbers on that dunno bro 👍
whole bunch of videos on TH-cam two-strokes seizing on dynos coasting down from high RPM. A good tuner will only let it happen for only 2-3 seconds while quickly slowing down the dyno.., not letting coast at red line like this super star
Some good numbers all across the board! I have a few friends who run that hybrid setup but in the ltr chassis for mx and they all get pretty good results!
thats very impressive for a 310 mike! i hope my national ported 265 (at least thats the plan) will make around 45 hp. its actually the original top end off your bike too believe it or not.
I love 2 strokes❤ the power they make and they weigh stuff all . That's why I engine swapped my TRX 90ex , I reckon it would pull around 36hp on a dyno it only weighs 130kg.
Wow 60hp plus for a 2 stroke atv is very impressive that's power to the wheels so probably 70hp or more at the crank either way big power and Mike built that engine which is even more impressive nice work fellas!
Mike is a great engine builder . he pays attention to detail . i keep trying to get him to come down to Louisiana and ride with us at my buddies training compound and Zona atv park . but hes way up north and were way down south lol
Nothing makes an ATV and a dirt bike sound more manly than a two stroke I wish they sold more of them they didn't stop producing them they're so awesome
That’s awesome Michael!! Brently is who does the tuning and stuff on my raptors one 50 hp and one 83 hp he is a awesome guy always there to help when you need it I’ll try and make the 250r meet next year maybe I’ll see ya! Have a good one man
250r is a badass bike and yours is one of the sweetest ones I’ve seen. But stick with the ported banshees for power. I’m over 80hp on my 421 with port work. Is the 250r ported? If not that would make dramatic differences and running race fuel. Keep up the nice work
Congratulations on the numbers your R put out. I think I’m sold on a new ESR CEO 310. You’ve put out some really good informative videos on your 250r/309 patriot build. Keep the great content coming.
@@DaisyHead666 1. If you run that rich, you dont get maxium power from the engine 2. More you take power from the engine, more engine braking does harm, and those quads is done pretty powerful 3. Engine braking is always bad no matter what 2 stroke engine you have unless the engine gets oil to the engine other way than with the fuel
@@iiroing2479 Engine braking is fine on a 2 smoker if you just have the right mixture and jetting. I havev been engine braking my whole 5 years on my 300 and its fine
@@aitosuomalainen7283 ei auta vaikka on täydelliset säädöt voit lukee vaikka kaiken maailman keskustelupalstat näistä jutuista mutta ihan fysiikan lakejen mukaan ajateltuna moottorijarrussa 2 tahit ei saa tarpeeks öljyä, maalaisjärkikin sen kertoo.. en sano et kone menee paskaks moottorijarrusta mutta 100 varmasti se kestää pitempään kun jättää moottorijarrutukset pois. En sitte tosiaan tiiä onko nuissa 300 tehty joku oma reitti öljylle että saa jostai muualta kun bensan seassa
If you love your bikes pull that clutch in when letting off the gas its so rough on the bottom end an so much more work to split the case when it locks up
I'd trust the guy with 10k pulles on the dyno a reputation of excellence and track record of success. THIS GUY IS ABSOLUTLEY DOMINANT on the track. His motors run hard.
@@garywhitlock2062 well it’s probably fools like you that boost his reputation so high. I’ve been around two strokes my whole life, that definitely accelerates wear. Go do a little research if you don’t believe me. It’s common knowledge in the two stroke world. Maybe he’s really experienced in 4 strokes, and knows jack shit about two strokes.
@@colestiefbold4093 did you not see all the two strokes in his shop? You clearly don't attend any sand drag events. Brentlys shop is one of the most dominant in the country. Do a little digging around on BHQ on FB. Are you by chance in the midwest?
It's crazy what a pipe dose for a motor.. On my mini sprint I ran ESR P11S and I was hitting 1080 RPMs when I ran the P11 pipe I was at 9.5 I was running the A30 pipe Is adapters with both pipes. I don't know if you have access to pipe adapters. If you do try them
Awesome numbers I cannot believe you guys thought a stoutly built 309 by LED would only make in the neighborhood of 40 HP. I would have pinned that motor to make 50+ HP all day long!
I have a 450R. 520cc 2nd stage cam. I like to see what it would do. It supposedly came with 42HP and is definitely allot more now. Almost like a different quad. Some step up from the 400ex I had with a 440 and cam.
I heard when you let off on a two stroke like that on the dyno it leans it out you should never let off when wide open and let it slow down on by the motor just think about it not giving it any lubrication after it’s been at 9k plus rpms and all the way down it got the carb shut off...
@@beauthomas4359 that's because most people don't know wtf they are doing, including this dude obviously. The only lubrication the cylinder is getting is from the fuel. So when he lets off the throttle, is goes from getting lots of lubrication from fuel from the main jet, to only getting a small amount a of fuel = small amount of lubrication, while the engine is still spinning at what it would be at WOT. It literally hurt me to watch this. Bmxpro is 110% correct.
"Estimated correction" 😂 love it when people go to the dyno and then they go on youtube and claim they actually made more power than they do. Usually its dummies arguing a Mustang dyno reads lower than a dynojet. News flash, ALL dyno operators claim their dyno reads lower. ALL dyno operators call their rigs "the heartbreaker". I vote to get your issues fixed, and take it back to the dyno. 65hp is about equal to a built 450 or a Raptor 700 with a cam and piston
Dont know about dat dyno. I can jet the most out of whats in front of me by ear,,feel and smell. Cool toys guys. Been there. Was $25,000 in on ma last 330R in 2016. Expensive passion but it is a serious passion.
I had built a 88 250r/ 450 in 2005. Polaris 400 top end. Yz490 piston and 5mm crank. Using the cr 250 ignition and CPI pipe it would put the hurt on the 4mm banshees up the 500footer in windy bay. One was a 4mm cub. Would guess the dyno #s to be 67/49tq The limiting factor was the pwk 40.5.
Love your videos Mike, your 4 wheelers are awesome I especially love your banshee that thing is a beast. Keep your videos coming. I look fwd to watching every new video you come out with .
Can you jump and powerslide that bad boy in the dirt? I did put my banshee up for 3 years after I bought My K6gsxr1K. I've just rebuilt the shee 100% tho. K6 is recycled beer cans sadly.
And? What’s wrong with trails? Just because we’re on the trails, and y’all are on the road, it doesn’t make us any less of riders. We’re all riders, just of different geographical terrain.
You can't make up correction. It makes what it makes, not what it makes plus 10% because some guy's friend of a third cousin's sister said that dyno reads low.
Here is a list of prominent engine builders who do the same Trinity OCP and redline Take a nap th-cam.com/video/o7TPToLsGWo/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/okVger8dzmI/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/TbghSlRmJeY/w-d-xo.html
185 to big you could get way more power than that with a good jet setup depending where u are elevation and weather changes everything . Also most of the time i go into a dyno we make the pull at 3rd gear 🤷♂️ . Nice bike and numbers🔥
3rd gear? You alter the results. I know 100% fact that hp will increase at the rear wheels if your running a 2.59/1 3rd. I know ratio can be amended in the program to allow for any rigs that lack a true 1/1 ratio. 1/1 ratio or corrected through programming is only way to achieve accurate results.
For whoever is watching this and is looking for also other good Atv shops with dyno. There's Matt's atv in Tulsa Oklahoma they have built and tune 2 of my stretched blasters and 1 of my Yamaha 450r atv and then there's sandtraxs on the otherside of Tulsa Oklahoma about I'd say 5 to 10mins from tulsa hills they tunes all bikes and my last Honda 450r thats what it started as at the end I think it was a 515 or 525 something like that it's been 2 years since I've had that quad
So the blue 390 was never production???? So basically 20 years ago at the end of the 250rs reign people serious enough with racing built bikes out of all aftermarket? Minus maybe cases of course. I’m so intrigued
@@Psy6o 300s are nothing 450 four stroke should have had more power than all than them quads four strokes make more torque I think dyno guy fudged the numbers
Thank you for watching 🤘 I know people will be wondering about the DBC Racing 310 but we did not have time to dyno that quad. Thanks again for watching and remember..... YOU ROOOOOCK 🤘🤘🤘
Congrats on your numbers on your bike fucking bad ass 🤘🤘🤘 from blabla
Congratulations on your numbers. If you ever pull more than Justin he will freak out on camera!
How is the guy you mentioned that broke his back
@@jeremycaldwell2878 blake? I think he's going to recover 100%; he has to wear a brace for some time though.
Ok that's good to hear man I hate to see this happen to anybody I lost my cousin and two of my riding partners praying for him bro..... Oh nice numbers on that dunno bro 👍
uncle that passed away had a banshee that had 98hp my dads trying to get it completely redone
Love the sound of a 2stroke at High RPMS! Mike, did you ever get to Dyno the SHEE?
whole bunch of videos on TH-cam two-strokes seizing on dynos coasting down from high RPM. A good tuner will only let it happen for only 2-3 seconds while quickly slowing down the dyno.., not letting coast at red line like this super star
Loved the way everyone went quite when they saw what the patriot pulled🤣🤣🤣..... Thats were atention to detail comes in!!!!!!!
Some good numbers all across the board! I have a few friends who run that hybrid setup but in the ltr chassis for mx and they all get pretty good results!
I was like wait that a WARRIOR?!! 35hp??? Holy crap I have an 87 and it makes 20ish on a good day
Nicee, my only gripe is the 4 stroke guy dyno’ing 2 strokes. Pull in the damn clutch...
thats very impressive for a 310 mike! i hope my national ported 265 (at least thats the plan) will make around 45 hp. its actually the original top end off your bike too believe it or not.
man that warrior is badass, a warrior was the quad i learned to ride on... I need him to hook me up a intake for my 660 raptor
I still got mine. I bought it 1996. Their bullet proof.
I love 2 strokes❤ the power they make and they weigh stuff all .
That's why I engine swapped my TRX 90ex , I reckon it would pull around 36hp on a dyno it only weighs 130kg.
Wow 60hp plus for a 2 stroke atv is very impressive that's power to the wheels so probably 70hp or more at the crank either way big power and Mike built that engine which is even more impressive nice work fellas!
Mike is a great engine builder . he pays attention to detail . i keep trying to get him to come down to Louisiana and ride with us at my buddies training compound and Zona atv park . but hes way up north and were way down south lol
Nothing makes an ATV and a dirt bike sound more manly than a two stroke I wish they sold more of them they didn't stop producing them they're so awesome
That’s awesome Michael!! Brently is who does the tuning and stuff on my raptors one 50 hp and one 83 hp he is a awesome guy always there to help when you need it I’ll try and make the 250r meet next year maybe I’ll see ya! Have a good one man
250r is a badass bike and yours is one of the sweetest ones I’ve seen. But stick with the ported banshees for power. I’m over 80hp on my 421 with port work. Is the 250r ported? If not that would make dramatic differences and running race fuel. Keep up the nice work
You need to buy that tecate 1987 or 88 quad that .A vintage or what ever his name is going to half ass another quad that should be a total restro.
That quad is doomed. lol
2 vintage
i mean he tries :)
+ he said he wanna keep it that he always wanted one. give him a month and he will sell the tecate again.
Hahahaha poor guy can't even catch a break on someone else's channel 😂
Was hoping the warrior would get dyno'd
Congratulations on the numbers your R put out. I think I’m sold on a new ESR CEO 310. You’ve put out some really good informative videos on your 250r/309 patriot build. Keep the great content coming.
Great Day at the Dyno Shop! Impressive Number by all !
Wow that's pretty badass playboy! And that warrior has a Monster exhaust that's what I put on my 450r
Might not have performed well but damn that led raw pipe looks great on your 309
Nice job cool to see that quad! Its got soo much power! I want to do stuff like this on my channel too!
That thing is a beast for sure!
that dude thought his warrior was badass until he seen them 250R's run lmao
That guy with the warrior has seen a lot faster things than these 250rs he just likes the warriors
IV know of weston from the warrior forums for years. He has more then just that warrior.
@@Yamahadipper8 ive never seen a warrior as badass as his
Holy smokes. A whole pile of serious equipment.!!!
I love how pissed Justin looks when yours goes on the dyno! lmao
Hes like no i dont think we should do another run
Hurts to hear the engine braking..
with an engine that built, engine braking is fine, especially if you run them rich.
@@DaisyHead666
1. If you run that rich, you dont get maxium power from the engine
2. More you take power from the engine, more engine braking does harm, and those quads is done pretty powerful
3. Engine braking is always bad no matter what 2 stroke engine you have unless the engine gets oil to the engine other way than with the fuel
@@iiroing2479 You're right, tbh those guys are stupid for AT LEAST not blipping the throttle on deceleration so that it still gets oil flow.
@@iiroing2479 Engine braking is fine on a 2 smoker if you just have the right mixture and jetting. I havev been engine braking my whole 5 years on my 300 and its fine
@@aitosuomalainen7283 ei auta vaikka on täydelliset säädöt voit lukee vaikka kaiken maailman keskustelupalstat näistä jutuista mutta ihan fysiikan lakejen mukaan ajateltuna moottorijarrussa 2 tahit ei saa tarpeeks öljyä, maalaisjärkikin sen kertoo.. en sano et kone menee paskaks moottorijarrusta mutta 100 varmasti se kestää pitempään kun jättää moottorijarrutukset pois.
En sitte tosiaan tiiä onko nuissa 300 tehty joku oma reitti öljylle että saa jostai muualta kun bensan seassa
If you love your bikes pull that clutch in when letting off the gas its so rough on the bottom end an so much more work to split the case when it locks up
Your pushing some nuts out of that 310 I love it
I’m a dirt bike guy and love this shop that says something
Hey Mike and Justin, aren't you a lil worried about that dude chopping the throttle closed from WOT at full load? While on the dyno
Was thinking the same thing that was a lot of engine braking
Yeah dude I was cringing
I'd trust the guy with 10k pulles on the dyno a reputation of excellence and track record of success. THIS GUY IS ABSOLUTLEY DOMINANT on the track. His motors run hard.
@@garywhitlock2062 well it’s probably fools like you that boost his reputation so high. I’ve been around two strokes my whole life, that definitely accelerates wear. Go do a little research if you don’t believe me. It’s common knowledge in the two stroke world. Maybe he’s really experienced in 4 strokes, and knows jack shit about two strokes.
@@colestiefbold4093 did you not see all the two strokes in his shop? You clearly don't attend any sand drag events. Brentlys shop is one of the most dominant in the country. Do a little digging around on BHQ on FB.
Are you by chance in the midwest?
Thanks for vid and showing us the results. Those are fantasy bikes for some guys. Bleepin high horsepower quads are bleeping cool lol
It's crazy what a pipe dose for a motor..
On my mini sprint I ran ESR P11S and I was hitting 1080 RPMs when I ran the P11 pipe I was at 9.5
I was running the A30 pipe Is adapters with both pipes.
I don't know if you have access to pipe adapters. If you do try them
Urs and dudes bike sounds exactly the same, Nasty! Great bike Sabo!
Awesome numbers I cannot believe you guys thought a stoutly built 309 by LED would only make in the neighborhood of 40 HP. I would have pinned that motor to make 50+ HP all day long!
Motor wasn't built by LED. Only ran his pipe.
I have a 450R. 520cc 2nd stage cam. I like to see what it would do. It supposedly came with 42HP and is definitely allot more now. Almost like a different quad. Some step up from the 400ex I had with a 440 and cam.
Some sweet as R's !! 1 to many wheels but still killer beautiful builds !!
Justin....”this is bullshit! Somethin ain’t right” 😂😂 I love it
This whole video WOW!!!now I wanna see what’ hp all my quads make
I heard when you let off on a two stroke like that on the dyno it leans it out you should never let off when wide open and let it slow down on by the motor just think about it not giving it any lubrication after it’s been at 9k plus rpms and all the way down it got the carb shut off...
I’ve always seen them do that so it must be fine
@@beauthomas4359 that's because most people don't know wtf they are doing, including this dude obviously. The only lubrication the cylinder is getting is from the fuel. So when he lets off the throttle, is goes from getting lots of lubrication from fuel from the main jet, to only getting a small amount a of fuel = small amount of lubrication, while the engine is still spinning at what it would be at WOT. It literally hurt me to watch this. Bmxpro is 110% correct.
They needed to blip more for cylinder lubrication
Jared Stevenson ohhh thank you for explaining this to me I appreciate it
dirtbagian thank you for sharing your knowledge to me I appreciate it
The blue and black one is the sharpest ATV I’ve ever seen
"Estimated correction" 😂 love it when people go to the dyno and then they go on youtube and claim they actually made more power than they do. Usually its dummies arguing a Mustang dyno reads lower than a dynojet. News flash, ALL dyno operators claim their dyno reads lower. ALL dyno operators call their rigs "the heartbreaker". I vote to get your issues fixed, and take it back to the dyno. 65hp is about equal to a built 450 or a Raptor 700 with a cam and piston
Dont know about dat dyno. I can jet the most out of whats in front of me by ear,,feel and smell. Cool toys guys. Been there. Was $25,000 in on ma last 330R in 2016. Expensive passion but it is a serious passion.
I had built a 88 250r/ 450 in 2005. Polaris 400 top end. Yz490 piston and 5mm crank.
Using the cr 250 ignition and CPI pipe it would put the hurt on the 4mm banshees up the 500footer in windy bay. One was a 4mm cub. Would guess the dyno #s to be 67/49tq
The limiting factor was the pwk 40.5.
Cub Motors are putting down more than 67
Damn that was some awesome numbers. You built a beauty man.
Rear ari tire pressure and how hard your pulling down on the ratchet strap is going to affect HP numbers
Just buy a banshee lol my 4 mil made 135 not along ago...
Hey brother I respect that you don't use profanity on your channel wish everyone would do that there is a lot of kids on utube theses days thank you
Love your videos Mike, your 4 wheelers are awesome I especially love your banshee that thing is a beast. Keep your videos coming. I look fwd to watching every new video you come out with .
Love to see them numbers, nice job mike.
Hey if you ever go down to Glamis be sure to let everybody know man I will meet you down there for sure
What do you think about the fox shocks or the elkas, what is better in your opinion?
Come on man, way above you?....I don't think....lol. from what I've seen you do some amazing stuff
back in the day the baddest 250r will only produce 70eyyyys
Wouldn't it be better on the motor to pull the clutch in after full-rev vs letting the engine use compression top slow itself back down?
Never seen this Chanel before but Justin is a baby.
I enjoyed the video. Dyno jet dyno’s should read very similar. Anyway great numbers.
Was into quads when I was a kid but when I bought my hayabusa there was nothing like that kind of power and you can ride it where ever you want
Can you jump and powerslide that bad boy in the dirt? I did put my banshee up for 3 years after I bought My K6gsxr1K. I've just rebuilt the shee 100% tho. K6 is recycled beer cans sadly.
Y’all the type of people with trails , we don’t do that , we be on the road , yessir
And? What’s wrong with trails? Just because we’re on the trails, and y’all are on the road, it doesn’t make us any less of riders. We’re all riders, just of different geographical terrain.
You can't make up correction. It makes what it makes, not what it makes plus 10% because some guy's friend of a third cousin's sister said that dyno reads low.
That's a monster .. Sounded like my Yamaha Blaster I had when I was younger a real speed bike and very nippY ! ! 🤪
Wow second 250r video I watched within the first minute today
NEVER ENGINE BRAKING IN THE DYNO, cool video
Can't wait to see what the numbers will be after Dave Moore does his magic.
Im working on it :)
@@davemooreracing 💨💨🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤤🤤
Dave what is the shop number?
Those front shocks on your R 😍🤤
What is the top speed on your quad
35 horsepower out of a Warrior motor?!?!?!?!?!
Right ctfu thing must BARK!!
We had a 388 warrior make 38 that same day after sabo left.
I wish I still had my warrior. I had one for years that was stock and I could do so much with it. I never knew the motor had that kind of potential!
@@carlcjs316 alot of it is one off stuff and we still are making more stuff for them.
its all in the head with Warriors
Nice engine braking there , can’t be doing the motor any favours at that rpm
Here is a list of prominent engine builders who do the same
Trinity OCP and redline
Take a nap
th-cam.com/video/o7TPToLsGWo/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/okVger8dzmI/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/TbghSlRmJeY/w-d-xo.html
@@garywhitlock2062 don’t understand why you wouldn’t just blip the throttle , these guys should know better
Seriously!!! You need to blip the throttle to keep the engine lubricated on decell
@@wilsonjefferies294 took the words out my mouth
Just shut up you idiot
Spine chilling watching this video..
I really enjoyed this video. Good solid info.
My 87 CT racing on q16 is right around 86hp. But 390cc
Bro I’m about to cry I was just there and I didn’t get to meet you
I'm very curious about how much time and money you have spent on the 250R? How does it stack up to real world drag runs or track runs?
185 to big you could get way more power than that with a good jet setup depending where u are elevation and weather changes everything . Also most of the time i go into a dyno we make the pull at 3rd gear 🤷♂️ . Nice bike and numbers🔥
3rd gear? You alter the results. I know 100% fact that hp will increase at the rear wheels if your running a 2.59/1 3rd. I know ratio can be amended in the program to allow for any rigs that lack a true 1/1 ratio. 1/1 ratio or corrected through programming is only way to achieve accurate results.
It was probably the main he had in on the last ride , soft sand you have too run it rich.
What color blue is the frame on the black and blue trx?
Tengo un 250R del 1986, son los mejores four track mezclas, ni los banshee los igualan
I love these kind of vids , but I like most of your videos
😂Hey thats Justin the "Snap On tool Junkie" right? ✅
modify the exhaust and intake ports for more power but less power at low rpm
I also noticed that you pulled the rear down with a strap on the 4 stroke. ????
For whoever is watching this and is looking for also other good Atv shops with dyno. There's Matt's atv in Tulsa Oklahoma they have built and tune 2 of my stretched blasters and 1 of my Yamaha 450r atv and then there's sandtraxs on the otherside of Tulsa Oklahoma about I'd say 5 to 10mins from tulsa hills they tunes all bikes and my last Honda 450r thats what it started as at the end I think it was a 515 or 525 something like that it's been 2 years since I've had that quad
185 main seems way way too big for a 310 with a 38mm carb. Especially here in the Midwest my 330 runs a 175 with a 39mm carb.
Different fuel
Not if you have been running it in soft dunes on a warm day your not.
@@Nunya_Beezwax I’m pretty sure he’s running 110 like I am.
DYNO BANSHEE!!!
What pipe do you have on your 250r cause I have a Curtis mx pipe
Isn't it bad to let off the throttle and not blurp the throttle to add a little extra fuel and oil?
Love the sounds like music
Anyone else notice he lets off before the RPM ‘s hit redline.....??
Way to go Michael Sabo
Do you have the hpi ignition in this video ?
Hi Michael .. I onLY join your channel recently if you still have the golden Honda I'd reckon you keep it bud
man it sounds sick!!
The ONLY Warrior I'd ride. I bleed Yamalube 2R but I have always hated warriors.
That was awesome
So the blue 390 was never production???? So basically 20 years ago at the end of the 250rs reign people serious enough with racing built bikes out of all aftermarket? Minus maybe cases of course. I’m so intrigued
Wow! Shes a beast!
A stock TRX 250 makes 39 HP. So your making over 56 HP, sick!
How did I miss this!!!!!!
Quadzilla is all ya need Boyz
sound great!
Those numbers are legit, my gas gas 300 made 53hp with a fair amount of engine work.
My gasgas300 did 63 with mild head work and Vp u4 gas
@@Psy6o 300s are nothing 450 four stroke should have had more power than all than them quads four strokes make more torque I think dyno guy fudged the numbers
@@wiiumad1342 I've had both 300 spanks the 450
Man you were in my neck of the woods ;)