@@XYLEAN594 nah I think people are overreacting just because it isn’t conventional, the 430i grille isn’t the best but the m3 and m4 grilles are really nice
@@comradekoala1245 no sir, to me they’re all schmugly, the top to bottom look ruins it imo. If they just cut the grille in half and kept the upper portion with the horizontal vents it would be moneyyy.
Don’t care what anyone says, I think BMW scored with the larger grill. That’s been one thing I’ve always wished was larger and more pronounced/aggressive on the BMW.
@@NadirDakkadefinitely not blazing fast but it’s quick enough to beat most of the regular traffic and still plenty of fun around bends. Steering changes with the mode so it’s actually really light in comfort and has a decent feel and stiffness in sport. It’s comfortable yet sporty when you need it to be.
Great review Joe! Holy options shock! This car is $60k for a 255hp four cylinder? The base price is already $5k too high at $44k. Even the 440i shouldn’t cost $60k. I’ve owned two new BMW’s but at these prices, I’ll be looking elsewhere.
I love BMW and own 2, but the best way I can describe the newer design (2019 - 2021) is like the child proofed it. It just looks smoother, bigger, softer, and chonky. The previous generation looks a lot sharper and edgier by comparison in my opinion. Really like the tail lights, other than not, not really a fan.
I like the color combo. The grill I don’t care one way or the other because I’ll never buy one especially one with a 4cyl.for $60,000.I noticed this has a counterclockwise tach too. Thanks for the review Joe and Lori’s great work! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
One more thing, that silver trim around the center controls really reflects the sun into your eyes. Dealer says it's not separately removable or I'd vinyl it in a heartbeat. Also, things like all-around cameras, lane centering, and remote start do not come standard in the base model, which for a $40K+ car they absolutely shot. HOT looking car, but . . . spend a lot less and top out a Honda or Toyota for ALL the luxuries. Great review.
It looks good this always happens with bmw they bring something out ppl don’t like it a few years later they look timeless it takes ppl some time to get used to it
I got to drive the car as a loaner in this beautiful blue color. The m sport package seems to make the front end way better since it’s all blacked out. To be fair it looks pretty good even though it’s huge since it grows on you. Once you’re behind the wheel though, it really feels a lot smaller than it actually is.
Divorces over the front grille. Gotta love it. But I must admit it is growing on me. Have you seen it in dark red with the black grille and black wheels ? Very sharp. Thanks again Joe and Lori.
The more I look at this car, the more I realize the problem isn't the grill per se. The problem is that the front end and rear end don't match The rear end needs to be a little more spectacular to go with the front. It needs something-bigger haunches, or a bigger spoiler.
Bmw says the USB plug near the cup holder is water proof. I've split a good amount of coffee in mine earlier this year after is was cut off unexpectedly and it still works perfectly.
Unpopular opinion but I love the grille, I think it distinctly says BMW. No other car could get mixed up for these new bmw’s. It’s in your face and intimidating!
People are hating on the engine but it's actually not bad, probably the best 4cyl engine i've experienced. I was given a base F30 as a loaner when my then-E92 335i was in for the airbag recall and it doesn't feel like a typical 4cyl engine, it had decent pull and was very refined but not on the same level as an I6. BMW is good at making refined smaller engines. I once drove a mini with a 3cyl and it drove better than my VW Golf. I still wouldn't buy this 430i. I'd rather buy a used M2 which is the only current gen BMW i like.
Maybe to a BMW enthusiast this grill is bad but jus someone who’s whatever about BMW the grill isnt bad i jus think the rest of the car isnt aggressive enough which would make it fit better imo
Grill is polarizing for sure,, but I do not hate it. Love the red calipers and the interior is amazing!!!! Would “zonk” the engine. Needs to be more substantial considering the 4 Series is supposed to be sporty.
@@RaitisRides on a different topic, neither the Telluride or Palisade have WiFi!? I’ve never seen a reviewer mention this before. That’s a glaring omission on their part
@@RaitisRides ha! It was a funny sentence. Love the detailed review. I’m lookin at leasing one of these and your breakdown was great. I had no opinion of the grill but apparently it’s more divisive than American politics.
I picked up my 430i early this month and I have been thrilled with it so far. I have the same spec minus the laser lights and I love my car I was a little worried about the performance of the car coming for a 2017 Q60 RS but BMW definitely under rates the power this car makes as well as the transmission is excellent
Car is beautiful look like the M4 almost exactly. Only bad thing is I live in the dump state of NY you need front and rear plates where do you put the front plate?
Great video! Definitely waiting on the Gran Coupe. I return my lease at the end of the year and this is one of the 3 I’m considering. Is the 4 series have a more cavernous than the 3 series? I’m in a 3 series loaner and love the drive, but not the cabin. If so, I’ll consider the other two and drop the BMW.
I am in process buying a CPO F33, watching this video to give the new design another chance. Sorry can’t view past the front fascia part of the video. It looks really bad with white. Perhaps pick a dark color and don’t mount the license plate like Porsches and Tesla’s is the way to go.
I'm more of a fan of the 5 series, But the 4 series hold a place in my heart. I'm just not sold on the new front grill. It kinda reminds me of when Chevy redesign the frontend of the Camaro in 2019. I didn't hate it nor loved it. Maybe in time the new grill for the 4 series will grow on me.
Hello joe remember when I first criticised the 4 series over its grill? We I managed to get over it after seeing it in real life it’s actually makes the car give a unique design the only thing I zonk is the body lines not matching perfectly
And the "functional shutters" behind the grille - what could possibly go wrong? Uh, like not opening while crawling in I-10 traffic in Scottsdale in August in 117f heat?
@@ladin425 Chevy dude on TH-cam who's a salesman at Bachman Chevrolet in Louisville his name is Mike Davenport he was selling them at MSRP and they had four of them a few weeks ago (the entry level 1LT) that were between 61 and 64k He never sells them above MSRP like most of the dealers and that's why he got famous on TH-cam.
grille has grown on me over the time since we first saw it. the new look is refreshing and i don't think it looks bad at all
I think others may be able to get past it.
Same dude, I think it’s pretty nice
no way its schmuglyyyy
@@XYLEAN594 nah I think people are overreacting just because it isn’t conventional, the 430i grille isn’t the best but the m3 and m4 grilles are really nice
@@comradekoala1245 no sir, to me they’re all schmugly, the top to bottom look ruins it imo. If they just cut the grille in half and kept the upper portion with the horizontal vents it would be moneyyy.
Don’t care what anyone says, I think BMW scored with the larger grill. That’s been one thing I’ve always wished was larger and more pronounced/aggressive on the BMW.
Joe can sell brisket to a vegan.
Thanks for making me laugh! Thanks for tuning in!
I'd like to see him going over a whole brisket and pointing out its characteristics.
@@geoculus5606 lol. I can see it now. "Who wouldnt want this moist 8 inches of meat in your mouth?"
Facts! 😂😂😂
he can sell zombie deer to a carnivorian!
The grille looks amazing. I respect BMW for doing something unique and to me the “old” 4 series is now incredibly dated looking. Nice review!!
Thanks for sharing that great input and perspective!
I like it as well
bmw calls the gloss black trim “shadow line “
shit look ugly tbh
At first I couldn't stand the grill. But, when you see it in person, it's totally different. I bought a 2022 Brooklyn Grey 430i M Sport and love it.
Best car I’ve owned. Couldn’t be happier, drives so well and looks stunning
I am so glad that you are happy with it.
been thinking about getting one but i hear the car feels slow and the steering is stiff. would you agree?
@@NadirDakkadefinitely not blazing fast but it’s quick enough to beat most of the regular traffic and still plenty of fun around bends. Steering changes with the mode so it’s actually really light in comfort and has a decent feel and stiffness in sport. It’s comfortable yet sporty when you need it to be.
@@AminVlogs1 if you had to say what would change about the car?
@@NadirDakkathe doors are pretty long, yes they look cool but in tighter parking spots it may be difficult to get out.
"Let's talk about what is going on here." Always funny. 😂
Thanks Blake for letting me share it all with you!
I can’t see another t-shirt for the merch store!
I read this as he said it
"People disowning their children" over the front end.....LMAO hilarious as always. Great review!
Thanks for letting me share the laughs and the cars with you!
The front end isn't horrible, but who's willing to take the bet that the front end won't be similarly sized next generation?
"$60K dollars, lets see what you get for your money". One big ZONK is what you get for your money!
Damn $60k for a lil 4cyl with turbo… that should last 2yrs?
"Let's talk about what is going on here." this should be Raiti's Rides tagline or slogan 😂
I feel like I'm out numbered but I like the new grill 🤷🏽♀️🔥👍🏾
Same I love the design I think it looks really cool and aggressive
Bugs Bunny wants his front teeth back.
You are hilarious!
Great review Joe! Holy options shock! This car is $60k for a 255hp four cylinder? The base price is already $5k too high at $44k. Even the 440i shouldn’t cost $60k. I’ve owned two new BMW’s but at these prices, I’ll be looking elsewhere.
2021 fully loaded 430is are going for $35k now.
@@matheusborges9969 thinking of getting a cpo with 10k miles for about that price
@@onn8166 do it! basically a new car and thats the price of a new toyota or honda
@@matheusborges9969 hell yeah. I'm going to check a couple out tommorow and see what's what. Appreciate the encouragement.
The positive side is that Beamers are 1/2 price in 3 years lmfao.
I see these things going for 25k LMFAO
I love BMW and own 2, but the best way I can describe the newer design (2019 - 2021) is like the child proofed it. It just looks smoother, bigger, softer, and chonky. The previous generation looks a lot sharper and edgier by comparison in my opinion. Really like the tail lights, other than not, not really a fan.
Thanks for sharing that great info.
lets be honest, the newer bmw looks way better than the old ones. people been judge every new cars like if they can afford them.
I really like the grille for some reason... and I wish people would understand that there’s so much more to this car than it’s looks
Lenscrafters opens at 9
@@TheBreakfastLover LMAO im dead
Thanks for sharing that great thought!
@@TheBreakfastLover LOL
@@Chofrizzy LOL
I like the color combo. The grill I don’t care one way or the other because I’ll never buy one especially one with a 4cyl.for $60,000.I noticed this has a counterclockwise tach too. Thanks for the review Joe and Lori’s great work! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
Good eyes Larry! I am looking forward to getting ahold of a M4!
I think it's bold, ballsy, fresh and daring!!!! Bravo BMW for moving forward.
One more thing, that silver trim around the center controls really reflects the sun into your eyes. Dealer says it's not separately removable or I'd vinyl it in a heartbeat. Also, things like all-around cameras, lane centering, and remote start do not come standard in the base model, which for a $40K+ car they absolutely shot. HOT looking car, but . . . spend a lot less and top out a Honda or Toyota for ALL the luxuries. Great review.
“let’s talk about what’s going on here” 😂😂 never gets old
I usually don't care for beige interiors but for some reason it looks good in this convertible.
Honestly...I love the new design and yes...I love the grille.
I am so glad that I can bring it to you!
It looks good this always happens with bmw they bring something out ppl don’t like it a few years later they look timeless it takes ppl some time to get used to it
$60 grand for a 4 cylinder car? I don't think so.
I feel your pain Brent.
same thing I said about the jaguar
the mercedes cla45 is 75k for a 4 cylinder. The most powerful 4 cylinder that is.
You can get that same engine in a MINI and since the MINI is a lot lighter, it is faster 😂
I got to drive the car as a loaner in this beautiful blue color. The m sport package seems to make the front end way better since it’s all blacked out. To be fair it looks pretty good even though it’s huge since it grows on you. Once you’re behind the wheel though, it really feels a lot smaller than it actually is.
Thanks for sharing that great input and perspective!
No one does it better than Joe. He’s gonna help pick my second one in two years
I like your comment about the keypad. I also agree about the central cup holder being to near to the charging ports etc.
I love the car but, I just can’t get over the grill. Please BMW don’t mess with the 3,5, and 8 series!
Let's see how it is going to turn out.
Car like this , just get it in black
“Do I wanna live back here? No” lol 😂
Thanks for letting me share some laughs with you!
Divorces over the front grille. Gotta love it. But I must admit it is growing on me. Have you seen it in dark red with the black grille and black wheels ? Very sharp. Thanks again Joe and Lori.
The more I look at this car, the more I realize the problem isn't the grill per se. The problem is that the front end and rear end don't match The rear end needs to be a little more spectacular to go with the front. It needs something-bigger haunches, or a bigger spoiler.
Maybe a fuzzy bunny tail to balance those Bugs Bunny teeth in the front! Sorry! Couldn’t resist.
It’s the front
The grill kinda blends in this color configuration I think its just a love /hate design
Great review Joe👍
I totally agree with you Parris! Thanks for the compliment and for watching!
You couldn’t catch me in that thing. What they did to the grill is mind blowing.
YOUR GETTING WARMER❗️❗️❗️
how reliable are these cuz im looking into getting one but always been scared of the reliability of euro cars
Bmw says the USB plug near the cup holder is water proof. I've split a good amount of coffee in mine earlier this year after is was cut off unexpectedly and it still works perfectly.
That is good info to know! Thanks for the heads up!
Finally, redesigned rear lights they look way better than the previous generation, which had a weird shape. Love the wheels too
For the performance ...that price is a bit too high... for about $4k more, one can get the RCF lexus... Nice video JOE
And it'll be 472 horsepower, almost double the 255 here. This is a joke.
Rcf is trash
Over a million subs. Been with you when you had 5k subs. I'm proud of you Joe.
I Like the New Grill. Keep Up the Good Work, Good Show.
Unpopular opinion but I love the grille, I think it distinctly says BMW. No other car could get mixed up for these new bmw’s. It’s in your face and intimidating!
I absolutely love the front end
Said no one ever
People are hating on the engine but it's actually not bad, probably the best 4cyl engine i've experienced. I was given a base F30 as a loaner when my then-E92 335i was in for the airbag recall and it doesn't feel like a typical 4cyl engine, it had decent pull and was very refined but not on the same level as an I6. BMW is good at making refined smaller engines. I once drove a mini with a 3cyl and it drove better than my VW Golf. I still wouldn't buy this 430i. I'd rather buy a used M2 which is the only current gen BMW i like.
This 430i has definitely grown on me.
I love when he gets in to the history of the car True professional
11:30 I don't think the owner is available to tell the story 😂
Despite the controversial design, this is a solid coupe. BMW will have no problem selling these.
Maybe to a BMW enthusiast this grill is bad but jus someone who’s whatever about BMW the grill isnt bad i jus think the rest of the car isnt aggressive enough which would make it fit better imo
Anybody else physically perform a karate chop gester when he said "slash cut" when referring to the exhaust tips 😂
Another great one, Joe!
Thanks for letting me share the fun and cars with you Miquel.
Sound of the Car Rocks!
Grill is polarizing for sure,, but I do not hate it. Love the red calipers and the interior is amazing!!!! Would “zonk” the engine. Needs to be more substantial considering the 4 Series is supposed to be sporty.
Love the BMW interior, the grill is going to take some getting used to
That front design reminds me of the catastrophe called Pontiac Aztec.
Biggest failure in GM history. Pontiac Aztek
@@jj_cars99 lol let’s just say one of
Two years ago today!!! Still my dream car.
What makes this 4 series special in driving experience?
Look at these headlights oh my Goooosh ❤❤❤
I am so glad that you like them!
"lets talk about what is going on here". Good start is the price of this thing.
Bring out more luxury copes, sir. I'll probably get one of them for my next car. Any suggestions? Anyone? Anyone?
I really love your sense of humor man you make me laugh. Thank you, I’m buying mines this week. Your review helped me a lot!
I would love for you to review the 2021 Kia Rio and hear your take. I feel the Subcompact cars are in a league of their own . Thx
Thank you for reviewing another BMW. you are the best Joe!!!
Wow now this is a unique car! Super cool
Thanks Quentin for letting me share it with you!
Joe said to show you some love in the comment section so...WE LOVE YOU LORI!!!!! 😉😉😉🎉🎉🎉✌✌✌
Hmmm. I wonder what was behind the Raiti's Rides logo on the dash while driving... 🧐🧐
This is a car i hope to own in the future. Awesome video!
Am I the only person who would like to see blue instead of red leather interior? I'm fine with that 😎
Not at all. Or grey with blue trim. I dislike all red/orange interiors.
Gotta cover that speedometer!
I guess if the authorities can't actually prove he was speeding, they can't do anything, haha.
Sir yes sir.
@@RaitisRides on a different topic, neither the Telluride or Palisade have WiFi!? I’ve never seen a reviewer mention this before. That’s a glaring omission on their part
I used to not like the grilles but now I actually kinda do love it
The new grill is 🔥🔥🔥
Especially in a green color
Any Idea when the 4 Gran Coupe is going to be
ready to order? Thanks in Advance...
Very nice car! Thank for the great review Joe!
16:58 ON THROTTLE!!!!!!!! Wow so cool it literally sounds awesome
Hold on man!
I think the grill needs to be scrapped, it's just not working for me, at all
Appreciate this review. My daughter is looking into this she loves the car but I needed your opinion, so thanks and special thanks to Lori
Weird the door seal has the M seal when this isn't an M series.
8.8 inches will bring you plenty of visual happiness
I could not have said it better myself!
@@RaitisRides ha! It was a funny sentence. Love the detailed review. I’m lookin at leasing one of these and your breakdown was great. I had no opinion of the grill but apparently it’s more divisive than American politics.
I picked up my 430i early this month and I have been thrilled with it so far. I have the same spec minus the laser lights and I love my car I was a little worried about the performance of the car coming for a 2017 Q60 RS but BMW definitely under rates the power this car makes as well as the transmission is excellent
Also no I haven’t blown up from the cup holders 😂
What’s the monthly price on it
@@RayanJowharchi $550 USD 36 Month 10k miles a year. lease had 1 payment left on my Q60
@@chrismendez1547 what was ur down payment
Hi Raiti: “ Noticed you had trouble with the words “ pretty good power plant”. It sounds like a Honda Civic with a 1.5 turbo with 174 hp. Sad.
Joe; " Are you ready to ride"
Me; "No I'm Raiti!"
When you copy a comment :/
@@dhruvasingu2895 no I did it my version
You are awesome!
@@prostreetmusclecarkingpin8376 in yesterdays Hyundai Santa Fe video someone did the same exact thing
@@dhruvasingu2895 someone said it a different way he said Joe; "Are you ready" then he said Me; "No I'm Raiti!"
Raiti: “put that in the comment section if you have blown up in your bmw”
Me: *im dead raiti, I literally blew up*
Car is beautiful look like the M4 almost exactly. Only bad thing is I live in the dump state of NY you need front and rear plates where do you put the front plate?
Great video! Definitely waiting on the Gran Coupe. I return my lease at the end of the year and this is one of the 3 I’m considering.
Is the 4 series have a more cavernous than the 3 series? I’m in a 3 series loaner and love the drive, but not the cabin. If so, I’ll consider the other two and drop the BMW.
Hey Joe (and Lori)
Great review.
Any word from Reeves BMW on a timeline of when the M4 will be arriving?
Really looking forward to that review!!!
You do a great job of presenting vehicle design.
I am in process buying a CPO F33, watching this video to give the new design another chance. Sorry can’t view past the front fascia part of the video. It looks really bad with white. Perhaps pick a dark color and don’t mount the license plate like Porsches and Tesla’s is the way to go.
This is by far the best looking sports car of this decade . You can hate all you want but it's true.
I love when you upload BMW vids
What's the difference between 2021 M4 competition and this ?
My income doesn’t qualify me to click on this video..but a man can dream
I'm more of a fan of the 5 series, But the 4 series hold a place in my heart. I'm just not sold on the new front grill. It kinda reminds me of when Chevy redesign the frontend of the Camaro in 2019. I didn't hate it nor loved it. Maybe in time the new grill for the 4 series will grow on me.
Hello joe remember when I first criticised the 4 series over its grill? We I managed to get over it after seeing it in real life it’s actually makes the car give a unique design the only thing I zonk is the body lines not matching perfectly
Thanks for sharing your experience with the new design George.
Sup joe raiti keep up the good work! you should do a review of the 2021 jeep renegade trailhawk and latitude
Thanks David! Will do brother!
It’s not as bad if you get the black grills with black paint. Hides the grill better that way !
And the "functional shutters" behind the grille - what could possibly go wrong? Uh, like not opening while crawling in I-10 traffic in Scottsdale in August in 117f heat?
Getting mine in a month after putting an order in 2 months ago. I brought it just for the new grille. Can’t wait.
BMW should change 3 and 4 series front suspension to double wishbone or multi link instead of current double ball joint McPherson !
Great idea!
Why did you buy the 4 series?
To fit my Bavarian pretzels
The front looks very animated, almost anime cartoon like. Either way it will probably sell since it’s still “BMW”
Dilemma, have a choice of an M440i or an 840i both brand new, which would you choose please sir 🙏
Unpopular opinion I love the front end
The grill is a little too big, but overall it's a very beautiful car
I agree with you!
Joe, for the same 60k I'd rather have a new Corvette bcuz it would blow the doors off that BMW on throttle!
a 60k vette is marketing tactic and you'll never be able to buy one. My co-worker just purchased a vette for over 100k.
@@ladin425 Chevy dude on TH-cam who's a salesman at Bachman Chevrolet in Louisville his name is Mike Davenport he was selling them at MSRP and they had four of them a few weeks ago (the entry level 1LT) that were between 61 and 64k He never sells them above MSRP like most of the dealers and that's why he got famous on TH-cam.