I love the idea of a sin level Based on how many KOs your opponents have very creative idea. For pendant stared though I think it would have been interesting for him when he activates it. If you have him on your screen. You start taking damage. so Opponents are forced to look away from him or risk dying. Might be a little OP but Would definitely be interesting
Thats a really fun concept. I think your right that it might be a little too powrful, i dont know. but i do appreciate the creativity. With my design i was more focused on keeping things interconnected.
@@Scouthedog1 For the pendant stare one, that could even be his ultimate, where u would cast it and everyone that looks at you can instantly get damaged or die, although to balance it, there should be an outside indicator on his model to signal everyone if his ultimate is ready so that they can anticipate it and look away before he presses it
For Johnny, I think his ult could also cause any ignited enemies to take all of the damage over time in one instance as they are hit with penance stare.
Some really interesting ideas here! Personally, I think having two Ghost Riders could be a little bit confusing from a visual clarity standpoint. Though, that could be mitigated by a difference in size. It might be a little underwhelming to get two Ghost Riders in one season when there's so many unique characters that could be added. Maybe an alternative could be a villain of Ghost Rider or a supporting character. Ghost Rider as a Vanguard has always been the most interesting to me. The abilities you gave Johnny honestly also feel a bit Vanguard-like. His bike could be used to charge forward and lead a push, and his flame wall could stop enemy engagements and block line-of-sight. Plus, it just feels right for Ghost Rider to have a lot of health and be basically unkillable. I know we have tanky Duelists, but Mr. Fantastic and Wolverine still don't have the presence and staying power that real Vanguards have. I think Ghost Rider could fall into that Thor-type category, where he's a Vanguard that deals a lot of damage and disrupts the enemies by charging in. I had a thought that his Penance Stare could also be stun, which feels like it would help contribute to his Vanguard abilities. Also, the visuals are really well done for the ability screens. I've created my own, and it was a difficult process to get them to look decent.
Kinda related but I really want them to release alternate version of characters. EG. Iron Man variant who's a Strategist or a Vanguard. Namor but a melee Vanguard. etc This is not feasible because the amount of work is too much as their time is better reserved to add characters instead of adding reiteration of characters already in the game
I didnt intend for it to be a good player killer or a punish skill, its meant to act more so as an anti snowball feature. But i can see the worry of it acting as that
"another epic victory" *cuts to a dark screen as Ghost Rider is facing away from the camera. he is just peeing fire on the ground. he looks over his shoulder nods at the camera and the MVP appears*
When I saw this I thought an interesting "ghost rider" and it's Sean Cassidy aka Banshee version when he was a rider and he used the Juggernaut as his vehicle.
This was my concept I used in a video of my own. Ghost Rider Role: Vanguard HP: 650 Difficulty: ☆☆☆ Primary Fire: Chain Rebuttal - Lash at enemies with flaming chain whips. (Melee. Medium range. Cannot crit.) Ammo: ♾️ Secondary Fire: Hellfire - Spew a stream of fire from your mouth to burn enemies. (Short range beam. Cannot crit. Low DOT. Inflicts Burning.) Ammo: Resource (Fuel for secondary fire drains slowly when in use and recharges slowly when not in use. Slows movement speed when in use.) Ultimate: Rider's Judgment - Mount a flaming motorcycle and turn your foes into roadkill. (Inflicts Burning on hit and leaves behind a trail of fire that also inflicts Burning. Knockdown on hit. Can speed boost with a wheelie, drift, and ride on walls.) Ability 1: Chain of Punishment. - Throw a chain and latch onto an enemy, then quickly pull them towards you. (Long range hook. Does not deal damage.) Ability 2: Penance Stare - Grab an enemy and keep them and yourself in place, making eye contact that slowly damages the opponent. (Very low DOT. Can be held indefinitely until interrupted or on kill. Keeps the enemy stationary and unable to use abilities. Slams the enemy on the ground when ability is released. Enemy cannot be damaged by anything but Penance Stare while held, and you cannot be healed while using it.) Ability 3: Heartless Spire - Create a wall of fire that burns enemies that pass through it. (Decent DOT. Covers a long area. Inflicts Burning.) Passive: Spirit of Vengeance - All abilities do more damage, and all cooldowns decrease overall depending on the number of killed teammates. Team-up: ???
I've got another team-up idea for Johnny, Since he's teamed up with Spider-man a couple times (at least once i know for sure) in the past. *Hellish Neighborhood.* Visually spider-man's webs are set on fire, where his web thwips look more like lil fireballs than balls of webbing! Mechanically Spider-man's uppercut and his ranged web thwip deal that same Burn D.O.T. that johnny does. As for Johnny Blaze he gets a new team-up ability, where he uses one of his chains to pull someone fairly far away towards him, somewhere within melee distance i'd imagine. With him yelling *"Get over here!"* as a lil nod to his fellow skull-faced, chain-whipping, fire-flinger Scorpion from Mortal Kombat.
nice job trying to go outside the reach of character moves and going into maps and those are some very nice skin ideas. I could definitely see one or 2 of those going into the base game Ghost Rider or not. keep it up I see big things going on here.
I was thinking for Johnny’s ULT that he could hop onto his bike and ride it around for a brief period, leaving a trail of fire behind him wherever he rode, while swinging his chain around and dealing insane amounts of damage while igniting enemies ablaze! I was thinking passively they could do something with status effects to make more of an incentive of counter play. I think Johnny’s flames should grow as he consumes more sin, however his flames can be doused by a Jeff healing spray. I thought this could apply neutrally for both teams- not dealing damage, however instead lowering his ability to perform as well for how overpowered he’d be. The same could be done for fire, instead of dealing damage, Johnny is immune to all forms of FIRE damage, where it will cause regeneration or a damage buff. This can figuratively be placed in a “you can’t fight fire with fire” type of dynamic. This was just an idea I got along the way. There would obviously have to be other things to help counter out a Jeff like lightning status from Thor being able to deal extra damage to any enemies with a “hydrated” buff (being after a brief moment or during Jeff spraying with his healing beam)
I think it would be funny to have a teamup ability with punisher where he can also use part of a penance stare too because he punishes people. Also it would also make him immune to enemy penance stares because he has nothing that he regrets, so the penance stare wouldn't work on him lol.
HP: 675 •Ability 1: (spamable) chain of deviation -35 dmg per hit in a cone (like brig in Ow) - fire rate 0.65 sec range is 6 meters •Ability 2: chain of retribution -Lauch your chain to hook a enemy dealing 20 dmg on a the hook and inflicting them with hellfire, and pulling them to you (hellfire status inflicts 20 dmg per sec over 5 sec) while inflicted with hell fire, enemies healing received is reduced by 30%. Very strong ability with large cooldown 15 sec. - range 20 meters • Ability 3 scatter gun: Shoots four pellets. 12 dmg per pellets. Can crit and crits inflict hellfire Max range: 40 meters Only can crit within 10 meters 6 sec cooldown Ultimate: Pendence Stare (last for 6 sec) Grab hold of an enemy and teather to them, staring into thier soul, you deal 80dmg per sec, that will increase by 100% ever tick, while ticking, enemy will be inflicted with hellfire, refreshing every tick) when eliminating an enemy with pedenece stare, your Ultimate will extend by 3 sec (while locked with am enemy, your Ultimate duration will NOT be effected) - lock range: 4M, - teather range after lock is 10 meters Passive: spirt of vengeance If an alley dies within 15M of you, your damage reduction is increased by 2%, stacking to a max of 4. And you will heal for 5% of your damage delt, this will not stack. - ghost rider can not be affected by enemy riders hellfire * Note hellfire will not affect bonus health, AKA Thors passive that gives him bonus health to a maximum of 200. Hellfire does not affect that.
That's a really cool take on ghost rider, the constant output of hellfire and oppression he brings seems dope. I especially like how you handled the penance stare, bringing in a static health drain feature that incentives moving as quickly as possible between targets My only comment would be that it's missing part of what ghost rider is, the rider, maybe find a way to work the hellcycle or the hellcharger in some kind of way. Other than that I love it
Once again, fantastic concepts! Love the distinction between each Ghost Rider from a mechanical standpoint. My only realy worry would be the names of each of the riders. Obviously you can't just call each "Ghost Rider", and I feel like "Ghost Rider Johnny Blaze" and "Ghost Rider Robbie Reyes" might be a little long winded. Either way, awesome concepts, they make me wanna make ones of my own!
Thank you so much. And yeah, I kinda imagined they'd just be called Johnny or Robbie but in reality if they ever made it into the game it'd probably be first come first served on the whole "ghost rider" title
I think that you should be able to pull a super sharp U turn while on the bike by pressing the weapon swap button, that way you aren't accidentally doing laps around someone and not damaging them or getting stuck in a corner or driving off a cliff Also id make it have a fuel bar that goes back up when you dont use it and the ability would be usable as long as the tank is above 50%. That way you could use it for short bursts without being completely locked out of it for a time
I think if you turned Ghost Riders bike ability into a dash that can tear through walls and leave a trail and changed the penance stare into a line of sight single target ability you could turn the riding the motorcycle into a dope ultimate where it lasts a good chunk maybe longer the more sin hes consumed and it lets him do all the things you commented on with increasing speed and making the chain attack a full aoe but i think you could also make it so the dash ability then lets you do stuff like ride fast down an open path then dash into a wall tearing it down and riding through to the other side using your chain attack and chain burst for aoe damage and the penance stare ability for single target ranged damage. Sorry if its out of place just figured id share my thoughts ❤
Bro gave Johnny a well-tuned vanguard kit😂a brawl vanguard even,or at least something like Reed, able to drag enemy back, summon vehicle to increase hitbox, barrier creation，if sin eater gave him amount of health then it's completed
@@Hamato_HouseSeasonal design is a great theme, it gives new heroes, maps, and skins a internal logical bond. I think you can also desgin the few lore of maps which base on current lores we've got, or maybe new gamemode that got leaked can be arranged in specific season
I think that for a ability or for he ultimate ability he put the opponent to he but if ultimate ability he puts them to he makes their looks into he eyes
I really hope they add Johnny or some other Ghost Rider variant in the game Big fan of designs that have special/unique meters like the Sin meter you've added for Johnny.
hey hamato! the only sort of """incorrect""" thing I've been noticing with these concepts is the team-ups, because in Rivals they don't act as a straight buff, instead they give a certain character a new special ability and the anchor gets a small buff such as more hp, more healing or more damage depending on their class.
Well the team ups vary dependant on itself, sometimes multiple people get features and sometimes there an anchor, I try to fit both in but when it's an anchor I just don't specify what stat buff they get for the same reason I don't mention ammo counts or damage numbers on the character sheets But the feedback is appreciated 👍
Mephisto isn't the ruler of Limbo in the comics that was only for the Midnight Suns game they could do the same for this game if they wanted to but if they want to go comic accurate Mephisto's Realm would be it's own thing. Also, Hela does not reside in Limbo she is the ruler of Hel.
Mephistos realm and hel are both areas within 1 actual dimension along with limbo. The names can get a bit conveluded so i didnt want to go into to too much in the video but basically they are all kingdoms within hell and are relatively the same thing in marvel comics.
I know what you mean. Ghost rider seems more like a tank dive. Come in, take hit, deal hit, and then get the hell out of there. Chain to deal damage and lock them. Shotgun to do close range damage, Bike to do drive bye Then the Penance Stare the ultimate.
I kind of wonder if they even do Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider when they do, do Ghost Rider. The thing with Ghost Rider is the most popular version of the character in the comics was the ‘90s version, that’s the first big version of Ghost Rider, that’s when he gets his chain, and that version of Ghost Rider is Danny Ketch. In the ‘90s after a bit Johnny Blaze did get introduced, but he wasn’t Ghost Rider; however, ‘90s Johnny Blaze did have a Hellfire shotgun and he still had the bike. I think they might go with that angle in Marvel Rivals, have Ghost Rider be ‘90s Danny Ketch with the chain and his kind of Akira looking motorcycle, and have Johnny Blaze be his ‘90s self with the Hellfire Shotgun. They could always fold them into one Ghost Rider character that has both of those weapons for attacks...but why fold them into one when you can sell two different characters with different things separately. They could still always give Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider costumes, but the main default version of him would be ‘90s Johnny Blaze. Having Danny Ketch Ghost Rider and Johnny Blaze be two different characters also means you could give them a team-up ability with each other. Ghost Rider 2099 could also be his own character given how vastly different he is from the actual Ghost Rider.
I have a pitch for a savage land themed season with kazar as a duelist and devil dinosaur and moon girl as a vanguard (they switch like cloak and dagger)
Thank you so Very Very Much! I mentioned it previosly but Here is my Concept for Yondu Udonta! The way would see him be played is like a mid to long range sniper. I know i also mentioned The Mandarin but based on the current state of things he will probably be more of a long term project. *Role:* Dualist. *Base Stats:* Health: 200 Movement Speed: 6 m/s *Passive: The Yaka Arrow.* 50 Damage upon entering a hitbox and another 50 after exiting the hitbox for a total damage of 100, crits deal 75 and so two crits would be 150, crit and bodyshot 125 (like entering at like torso and weaving out of the head or the reverse of that). Maximum range of 150 meters away from Yondu. The Yaka Arrow can also go thru walls, except of course in and out of spawn areas obviously. It works like the Half-Life rocket launcher or the Freeman from Borderlands 3 (th-cam.com/video/y1dN8mrVdxY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mByXJkQoi3xH5LfR&t=92 ) in that its nailed to your crosshair, looking up, down and all around moves the Yaka Arrow up, down and all around. Projectile speed is 75 meters per second which means that it doesn't move as fast as you can move the mouse/joystick, if you look around too fast the Yaka Arrow will have to try and catch up. Depth is controlled by the primary and secondary fire. *Primary: Forwards.* Moves The Yaka Arrow away from you. Projectile speed of 75 meters per second. Secondary: Backwards. Moves The Yaka Arrow closer towards you. Projectile speed of 75 meters per second. *Ability 1: Yaka Flame.* Lights The Yaka Arrow on fire for 5 seconds. Enemies hit by the Arrow during this time get a fire DoT for 3 seconds. Cooldown: like 10 seconds or 15 seconds or some such. (a lot of these numbers are just suggestions so ye can get a rough idea of what i'm thinkin) *Ability 2: Yaka Flight.* The Yaka Arrow needs to be within 2 meters or less from Yondu in order to be activated. Yondu grabs The Yaka Arrow and enters a free flight mode, just like the Mary Poppins moment from Guardians Vol.2 except he can move in any direction, not just down. Cooldown: 0 seconds. *Ultimate: Super Yaka.* Ult charge Cost is 3000, duration is 7 seconds. Essentially just Cole Cassidy’s ult from Overwatch but with the Yaka Arrow. During this time Yondu cant use ANY of his abilities. Essentially this scene: (th-cam.com/video/sSPpMb0RCFw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lTB9b6CtQIB5KSqB&t=14 ) *Team-Up Ability, Star Lord: Name TBD (Couldn't think of anything).* Star Lord gets a new ability. Once activated Star Lord’s next 2 mags deal fire damage and enemies hit by this have a fire status effect applied to them. Cooldown: 15 seconds. Fire Effect Damage: 10 health per second for 3 seconds. *Team-Up Ability, Rocket Raccoon: Something Scanner (im not great at coming up with ability names).* Yondu gets a new ability. Yondu activates a scanner that reveals all enemies within 25 meters of Yondu. Duration: 10 seconds. Cooldown: 30 Seconds. *Melee: Knuckle Dusters.* Yondu deals abit more melee damage than most other heroes and he's got a melee combo. I felt he needed some way of defending himself if the Yaka Arrow is too far away, it probably won't do much but some layer of defence is better than none. *Notes:* To my knowledge there is essentially 3 main versions of Yondu: Earth 199999 (MCU), Earth 616 and Earth (i think) 691. 691 is the original version of the guy and personally? He really aint it for me. Bows are cool and all that but from a gameplay sense bow & homing arrows just aren't as cool as either 1 real powerful homing arrow or just a more simple bow and trick arrows, like Hawkeye. Now after the first Guardians movie Yondu of 616 was reworked into being closer to the MCU version of the guy but for some reason without the arrow making him essentially just a guy. Thus this concept as you could clearly tell was based pretty much entirely of of the MCU version as in my opinion he is both the most popular and well known version of the character and my Personal favorite version as well. I felt the best way of balancing the Yaka Arrow was to not make it do an absurd amount of damage and to make Yondu himself just as squishy as Bruce Banner. I imagine flankers like Magik or Iron Fist would be able to make quick work of Yondu. Cuz something one has to remember is to keep the characters at least somewhat balanced i think. I mentioned it but The Mandarin is taking abit longer but i do have other concepts im working on! I have written down a few ideas for Shang-Chi but he is far from ready. That which i have focused most of my Rivals-Concept-Attention is the idea of Crossover Characters! I honestly do not think we will ever get Crossover Characters, skins sure maybe but full on characters? nah i dont think so. But nevertheless i saw some people toss out ideas like Allmight and i saw some other anime character aswell and honestly? Seems fun so yeah i have been doing some Thinkin & concepting of both crossover characters and crossover skins!
Really love the kit, I get why you went with a more MCU choice, I recon I'd still go with the bow personally and then give him the whistle control as either an ability or an ult, but the way you designed the arrows flight was really awesome. I think the only thing I'd add to your kit would be a recall ability, that moves the arrow quicker than it normally does but places it just in a starting position Infront of yondu, maybe that ability doesnt let the arrow damage or something, just so when he gets dove he has some sort of chance But other than that I love the idea
@@Hamato_House Thank you! yea i am quite fond of MCU yondu but i found it hard to get OG Yondu out of my head and after a lot of thinkin earlier today when i was out shoveling snow i had a brain blast. I was reminded of something Act Man mentioned in one of his Rivals videos, about how he speculated how netease maybe tried to combine both comic and mcu versions of characters and whether or not he was right the idea really stuck with me for Yondu. Cuz like if one gives him a moveset more similar to his OG verison and a personality and history similar to his MCU version both those who are more familiar with the comics and those more familiar with the MCU would be able to recognize him as "yeah thats Yondu"! Like i remember seeing somewhere (dont rember where or when) a drawing or some such of a yondu design that combined them like that. Like he had the both the bow and massive Fin of the OG and the trenchcoat of the MCU and i remember it looking awesome! I feel that would also help give him a silhuette different enough from Hawkeye So yeah i had a brain blast as said so here be a new updated concept for Yondu Udonta in Rivals! *Role:* Dualist. *Base Stats:* Health: 200 Movement Speed: 6 m/s *Primary: Bow & Yaka Arrow.* Yondu has a large bow and a quiver of 20 or so Yaka Arrows. They are controlled just like the Half-Life rocket launcher or the Freeman from Borderlands 3 (th-cam.com/video/y1dN8mrVdxY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=F1XrverHrym_GYRK&t=92 ), they travel forwards automatically. Upon hitting a wall or target they stick to what they hit until Yondu reloads and recalls them. If they were stuck in an enemy they deal a small amount of damage to said enemy when recalled. *Secondary: Yaka Flame.* The next 3 or 5 Yaka Arrows Inflict a fire DoT on the enemy they hit. *Ability 1: Yaka Flight.* Needs at least 1 arrow left in the quiver to be activated. Yondu Grabs an arrow and enters a free flight mode. *Ability 2: Triple Shot (or some such).* Yondu shoots 3 arrows at once *Ultimate: Super Yaka.* Yondu unloads all his arrows from the quiver and his primary button now selects enemies. Selecting an enemy designates an arrow to automatically home in on them, you can select an enemy multiple times. Either when pressing the secondary button or once all arrows have been given a target all the arrows shoots out towards the targets. If you sent them out early any arrow you did not give a target just returns to your quiver. *Passive 1: Centaurian Senses.* Retain vision of enemies that disappear form view for a short duration, just like Punisher’s Warrior’s Gaze. *Team-Up Ability, Star-Lord: Name TBD (still couldn't think of anything).* Star-Lord gets a new ability. Same as i mentioned before. *Team-Up Ability, Rocket Raccoon: Something Scanner (still couldn't think of anything).* Yondu Gets a new ability. Same as i mentioned before. *Notes:* I am aware 20 or so arrows in the quiver might be a bit much from a gameplay perspective perhaps but that be how many OG Yondu had so yknow. Also i skipped out on numbers this time, i feel yall get a good enough idea of what i'm thinking anyways. For the triple shot i could also see like either 5 shots at once or just a temporary boost to the fire rate, just something thats more of a burst of damage or some such.
This feels even more like a cool and more importantly a cohesive kit! I especially love the ult, mainly because it gives the player choices whilst still embodying the badass feeling of yondu! You have to consider how many arrows to assign, whether to save some for after the ult, whether you have time to assign or not, and all of that!
All of the marvel pitches are chosen in the community poll on the channel page, unfortunately none of the cosmic ones have won quite yet, but stick around because i'll probably do a heralds of galactus option in the future at some point
Honestly making a template isn't a bad idea yanno, as for a server atm I wanna stay away from that since I don't have the time or resources to manage one, if you do have any character ideas though feel free to leave them in the comments. I read all of them and even shout out my favourite at the end of vids
I want to correct you on the map suggestion but Limbo is not in hell. It is a separate eldritch dimension and souls do not go there it just has demons. Hela has her own Hel dimension separate from Hell. It’s different and all of these dimensions are not connected.
Thanks, I am aware they are different but they all represent hell in some way or another being based on different interpretations of Norse/catholic imagery and all that
NetEase is a Chinese company, but Rivals isn't necessarily a Chinese game. I imagine skull imagery wouldn't be prohibited in this case, but I could be wrong.
Not really, just look at Psylocke's skins Those skins are normally not allowed in regular Chinese games, Marvel Rivals seems to exist in a different category of games Netease develops, for example, Netease's BR game, Naraka had an update where they make skins less lewd, hiding skin, adding more modest underwear, and reducing bust sizes. There's a chance that this will happen to Marvel Rivals as well, but I'd think that they wouldn't try again if they are not allowed as they have already been slapped for this before.
If you read the newer Ghost rider comics with Robie Reyes, he has less of a Skull and more of a skull helmet, that may be more palatable for chinese audiences
I love the idea of a sin level Based on how many KOs your opponents have very creative idea.
For pendant stared though I think it would have been interesting for him when he activates it. If you have him on your screen. You start taking damage. so Opponents are forced to look away from him or risk dying. Might be a little OP but Would definitely be interesting
Thats a really fun concept. I think your right that it might be a little too powrful, i dont know. but i do appreciate the creativity. With my design i was more focused on keeping things interconnected.
@@Scouthedog1 For the pendant stare one, that could even be his ultimate, where u would cast it and everyone that looks at you can instantly get damaged or die, although to balance it, there should be an outside indicator on his model to signal everyone if his ultimate is ready so that they can anticipate it and look away before he presses it
You gotta nake one of these on Yondu. He is the best character to come out of Guardians of the Galaxy in my opinion.
If Ghost Rider ever becomes a thing, Cosmic Ghost Rider should definitely be the starting non recolor skin
@@bronybro1616 and the second non recolour skin should absolutely be the samurai ghost rider that could’ve been on what if
I like that idea a lot but I think they would probably go with Robbie Reyes for the base design. A mix of both would make me bust
Love all the videos man! Keep them coming! You need a job in character designing haha. Can’t wait to see what you do for ant man
Thank you so much 🙏
For Johnny, I think his ult could also cause any ignited enemies to take all of the damage over time in one instance as they are hit with penance stare.
Some really interesting ideas here! Personally, I think having two Ghost Riders could be a little bit confusing from a visual clarity standpoint. Though, that could be mitigated by a difference in size. It might be a little underwhelming to get two Ghost Riders in one season when there's so many unique characters that could be added. Maybe an alternative could be a villain of Ghost Rider or a supporting character.
Ghost Rider as a Vanguard has always been the most interesting to me. The abilities you gave Johnny honestly also feel a bit Vanguard-like. His bike could be used to charge forward and lead a push, and his flame wall could stop enemy engagements and block line-of-sight. Plus, it just feels right for Ghost Rider to have a lot of health and be basically unkillable. I know we have tanky Duelists, but Mr. Fantastic and Wolverine still don't have the presence and staying power that real Vanguards have. I think Ghost Rider could fall into that Thor-type category, where he's a Vanguard that deals a lot of damage and disrupts the enemies by charging in. I had a thought that his Penance Stare could also be stun, which feels like it would help contribute to his Vanguard abilities.
Also, the visuals are really well done for the ability screens. I've created my own, and it was a difficult process to get them to look decent.
Kinda related but I really want them to release alternate version of characters. EG. Iron Man variant who's a Strategist or a Vanguard. Namor but a melee Vanguard. etc
This is not feasible because the amount of work is too much as their time is better reserved to add characters instead of adding reiteration of characters already in the game
If we want a different Ironman, then we have a rescue for strategist, war machine vanguard
Sin eater should work as a "good player killer", the more KOs to deaths a person has, the more damage
punishing a player for being good is kinda dumb
I didnt intend for it to be a good player killer or a punish skill, its meant to act more so as an anti snowball feature. But i can see the worry of it acting as that
Tbh, it is a bad idea but... yeah it's h*ll to balance
@alexmaples2678 when everyone's broken... no one is
5:23 oh my god this has to be a winscreen😂😂😂
"another epic victory" *cuts to a dark screen as Ghost Rider is facing away from the camera. he is just peeing fire on the ground. he looks over his shoulder nods at the camera and the MVP appears*
@ don’t forget that it’s on fire
When I saw this I thought an interesting "ghost rider" and it's Sean Cassidy aka Banshee version when he was a rider and he used the Juggernaut as his vehicle.
This was my concept I used in a video of my own.
Ghost Rider
Role: Vanguard
HP: 650
Difficulty: ☆☆☆
Primary Fire: Chain Rebuttal - Lash at enemies with flaming chain whips. (Melee. Medium range. Cannot crit.)
Ammo: ♾️
Secondary Fire: Hellfire - Spew a stream of fire from your mouth to burn enemies. (Short range beam. Cannot crit. Low DOT. Inflicts Burning.)
Ammo: Resource (Fuel for secondary fire drains slowly when in use and recharges slowly when not in use. Slows movement speed when in use.)
Ultimate: Rider's Judgment - Mount a flaming motorcycle and turn your foes into roadkill. (Inflicts Burning on hit and leaves behind a trail of fire that also inflicts Burning. Knockdown on hit. Can speed boost with a wheelie, drift, and ride on walls.)
Ability 1: Chain of Punishment. - Throw a chain and latch onto an enemy, then quickly pull them towards you. (Long range hook. Does not deal damage.)
Ability 2: Penance Stare - Grab an enemy and keep them and yourself in place, making eye contact that slowly damages the opponent. (Very low DOT. Can be held indefinitely until interrupted or on kill. Keeps the enemy stationary and unable to use abilities. Slams the enemy on the ground when ability is released. Enemy cannot be damaged by anything but Penance Stare while held, and you cannot be healed while using it.)
Ability 3: Heartless Spire - Create a wall of fire that burns enemies that pass through it. (Decent DOT. Covers a long area. Inflicts Burning.)
Passive: Spirit of Vengeance - All abilities do more damage, and all cooldowns decrease overall depending on the number of killed teammates.
Team-up: ???
I've got another team-up idea for Johnny, Since he's teamed up with Spider-man a couple times (at least once i know for sure) in the past.
*Hellish Neighborhood.*
Visually spider-man's webs are set on fire, where his web thwips look more like lil fireballs than balls of webbing!
Mechanically Spider-man's uppercut and his ranged web thwip deal that same Burn D.O.T. that johnny does.
As for Johnny Blaze he gets a new team-up ability, where he uses one of his chains to pull someone fairly far away towards him, somewhere within melee distance i'd imagine.
With him yelling *"Get over here!"* as a lil nod to his fellow skull-faced, chain-whipping, fire-flinger Scorpion from Mortal Kombat.
nice job trying to go outside the reach of character moves and going into maps and those are some very nice skin ideas. I could definitely see one or 2 of those going into the base game Ghost Rider or not. keep it up I see big things going on here.
I was thinking for Johnny’s ULT that he could hop onto his bike and ride it around for a brief period, leaving a trail of fire behind him wherever he rode, while swinging his chain around and dealing insane amounts of damage while igniting enemies ablaze!
I was thinking passively they could do something with status effects to make more of an incentive of counter play.
I think Johnny’s flames should grow as he consumes more sin, however his flames can be doused by a Jeff healing spray. I thought this could apply neutrally for both teams- not dealing damage, however instead lowering his ability to perform as well for how overpowered he’d be. The same could be done for fire, instead of dealing damage, Johnny is immune to all forms of FIRE damage, where it will cause regeneration or a damage buff. This can figuratively be placed in a “you can’t fight fire with fire” type of dynamic.
This was just an idea I got along the way. There would obviously have to be other things to help counter out a Jeff like lightning status from Thor being able to deal extra damage to any enemies with a “hydrated” buff (being after a brief moment or during Jeff spraying with his healing beam)
I think it would be funny to have a teamup ability with punisher where he can also use part of a penance stare too because he punishes people. Also it would also make him immune to enemy penance stares because he has nothing that he regrets, so the penance stare wouldn't work on him lol.
Alright, one more team up for Ghost rider with the Human Torch, and we call it…
Johnnys Blaze
(as in Plural Johnny)
Love Ghost Rider but this will not happen unless they replace his skull. China and skeletons don't mix
This is so thorough and well thought-out. Fantastic vid! Hopefully there’s a bit of a backlog to watch 😄
HP: 675
•Ability 1: (spamable) chain of deviation
-35 dmg per hit in a cone (like brig in Ow)
- fire rate 0.65 sec range is 6 meters
•Ability 2: chain of retribution
-Lauch your chain to hook a enemy dealing 20 dmg on a the hook and inflicting them with hellfire, and pulling them to you (hellfire status inflicts 20 dmg per sec over 5 sec) while inflicted with hell fire, enemies healing received is reduced by 30%. Very strong ability with large cooldown 15 sec.
- range 20 meters
• Ability 3 scatter gun:
Shoots four pellets. 12 dmg per pellets. Can crit and crits inflict hellfire
Max range: 40 meters
Only can crit within 10 meters
6 sec cooldown
Ultimate: Pendence Stare (last for 6 sec)
Grab hold of an enemy and teather to them, staring into thier soul, you deal 80dmg per sec, that will increase by 100% ever tick, while ticking, enemy will be inflicted with hellfire, refreshing every tick) when eliminating an enemy with pedenece stare, your Ultimate will extend by 3 sec (while locked with am enemy, your Ultimate duration will NOT be effected)
- lock range: 4M,
- teather range after lock is 10 meters
Passive: spirt of vengeance
If an alley dies within 15M of you, your damage reduction is increased by 2%, stacking to a max of 4. And you will heal for 5% of your damage delt, this will not stack.
- ghost rider can not be affected by enemy riders hellfire
* Note hellfire will not affect bonus health, AKA Thors passive that gives him bonus health to a maximum of 200. Hellfire does not affect that.
That's a really cool take on ghost rider, the constant output of hellfire and oppression he brings seems dope. I especially like how you handled the penance stare, bringing in a static health drain feature that incentives moving as quickly as possible between targets
My only comment would be that it's missing part of what ghost rider is, the rider, maybe find a way to work the hellcycle or the hellcharger in some kind of way.
Other than that I love it
This man totally says ATM machine
Marvel Games rn: *WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN*!!!!
Once again, fantastic concepts! Love the distinction between each Ghost Rider from a mechanical standpoint. My only realy worry would be the names of each of the riders. Obviously you can't just call each "Ghost Rider", and I feel like "Ghost Rider Johnny Blaze" and "Ghost Rider Robbie Reyes" might be a little long winded. Either way, awesome concepts, they make me wanna make ones of my own!
Thank you so much. And yeah, I kinda imagined they'd just be called Johnny or Robbie but in reality if they ever made it into the game it'd probably be first come first served on the whole "ghost rider" title
what if its like Hulk where its "Bruce Banner"
A way you could do it is call Robbie the "All Rider" instead.
Could you do an inhuman next preferably vanguard: Medusa, black bolt or lockjaw
i'll add it to the next poll after next week's video
I think that you should be able to pull a super sharp U turn while on the bike by pressing the weapon swap button, that way you aren't accidentally doing laps around someone and not damaging them or getting stuck in a corner or driving off a cliff
Also id make it have a fuel bar that goes back up when you dont use it and the ability would be usable as long as the tank is above 50%. That way you could use it for short bursts without being completely locked out of it for a time
GHOST RIDER: VENGEANCE IS COMING FOR YOU AND ALL
WHO COMMIT THE WORST OF SINS
I think if you turned Ghost Riders bike ability into a dash that can tear through walls and leave a trail and changed the penance stare into a line of sight single target ability you could turn the riding the motorcycle into a dope ultimate where it lasts a good chunk maybe longer the more sin hes consumed and it lets him do all the things you commented on with increasing speed and making the chain attack a full aoe but i think you could also make it so the dash ability then lets you do stuff like ride fast down an open path then dash into a wall tearing it down and riding through to the other side using your chain attack and chain burst for aoe damage and the penance stare ability for single target ranged damage. Sorry if its out of place just figured id share my thoughts ❤
Bro gave Johnny a well-tuned vanguard kit😂a brawl vanguard even,or at least something like Reed, able to drag enemy back, summon vehicle to increase hitbox, barrier creation，if sin eater gave him amount of health then it's completed
I was going for that Mr.fantastic pseudo tank style tbf, but I just didn't wanna make two tanks 😂
@@Hamato_HouseSeasonal design is a great theme, it gives new heroes, maps, and skins a internal logical bond. I think you can also desgin the few lore of maps which base on current lores we've got, or maybe new gamemode that got leaked can be arranged in specific season
I think Robbie's scorched earth should give teammates shield too
I think it would be a little too overpowered
I think penance stare should be like cassidy's deadeye tbh
With 2099 being a thing in rivals a 2099 skin make sense
I think that for a ability or for he ultimate ability he put the opponent to he but if ultimate ability he puts them to he makes their looks into he eyes
I really hope they add Johnny or some other Ghost Rider variant in the game
Big fan of designs that have special/unique meters like the Sin meter you've added for Johnny.
hey hamato! the only sort of """incorrect""" thing I've been noticing with these concepts is the team-ups, because in Rivals they don't act as a straight buff, instead they give a certain character a new special ability and the anchor gets a small buff such as more hp, more healing or more damage depending on their class.
Well the team ups vary dependant on itself, sometimes multiple people get features and sometimes there an anchor, I try to fit both in but when it's an anchor I just don't specify what stat buff they get for the same reason I don't mention ammo counts or damage numbers on the character sheets
But the feedback is appreciated 👍
@Hamato_House I see. Tbh, having teamups be as your concepts work would certainly be amazing, keep up the good work! :)
Large Chain that pulls enemies in?
Large Shotgun to blast them with?
Good enough Welcome Back Roadhog
Mephisto isn't the ruler of Limbo in the comics that was only for the Midnight Suns game they could do the same for this game if they wanted to but if they want to go comic accurate Mephisto's Realm would be it's own thing. Also, Hela does not reside in Limbo she is the ruler of Hel.
Mephistos realm and hel are both areas within 1 actual dimension along with limbo. The names can get a bit conveluded so i didnt want to go into to too much in the video but basically they are all kingdoms within hell and are relatively the same thing in marvel comics.
How in the hell do yall not see him as a vanguard
I know what you mean. Ghost rider seems more like a tank dive.
Come in, take hit, deal hit, and then get the hell out of there.
Chain to deal damage and lock them. Shotgun to do close range damage,
Bike to do drive bye
Then the Penance Stare the ultimate.
I kind of wonder if they even do Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider when they do, do Ghost Rider. The thing with Ghost Rider is the most popular version of the character in the comics was the ‘90s version, that’s the first big version of Ghost Rider, that’s when he gets his chain, and that version of Ghost Rider is Danny Ketch. In the ‘90s after a bit Johnny Blaze did get introduced, but he wasn’t Ghost Rider; however, ‘90s Johnny Blaze did have a Hellfire shotgun and he still had the bike.
I think they might go with that angle in Marvel Rivals, have Ghost Rider be ‘90s Danny Ketch with the chain and his kind of Akira looking motorcycle, and have Johnny Blaze be his ‘90s self with the Hellfire Shotgun. They could always fold them into one Ghost Rider character that has both of those weapons for attacks...but why fold them into one when you can sell two different characters with different things separately. They could still always give Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider costumes, but the main default version of him would be ‘90s Johnny Blaze. Having Danny Ketch Ghost Rider and Johnny Blaze be two different characters also means you could give them a team-up ability with each other.
Ghost Rider 2099 could also be his own character given how vastly different he is from the actual Ghost Rider.
I have a pitch for a savage land themed season with kazar as a duelist and devil dinosaur and moon girl as a vanguard (they switch like cloak and dagger)
I think Johnny would work better as a vanguard and Robbie as a duelist
Thank you so Very Very Much! I mentioned it previosly but Here is my Concept for Yondu Udonta! The way would see him be played is like a mid to long range sniper. I know i also mentioned The Mandarin but based on the current state of things he will probably be more of a long term project.
*Role:* Dualist.
*Base Stats:* Health: 200 Movement Speed: 6 m/s
*Passive: The Yaka Arrow.* 50 Damage upon entering a hitbox and another 50 after exiting the hitbox for a total damage of 100, crits deal 75 and so two crits would be 150, crit and bodyshot 125 (like entering at like torso and weaving out of the head or the reverse of that). Maximum range of 150 meters away from Yondu. The Yaka Arrow can also go thru walls, except of course in and out of spawn areas obviously. It works like the Half-Life rocket launcher or the Freeman from Borderlands 3 (th-cam.com/video/y1dN8mrVdxY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mByXJkQoi3xH5LfR&t=92 ) in that its nailed to your crosshair, looking up, down and all around moves the Yaka Arrow up, down and all around. Projectile speed is 75 meters per second which means that it doesn't move as fast as you can move the mouse/joystick, if you look around too fast the Yaka Arrow will have to try and catch up. Depth is controlled by the primary and secondary fire.
*Primary: Forwards.* Moves The Yaka Arrow away from you. Projectile speed of 75 meters per second.
Secondary: Backwards. Moves The Yaka Arrow closer towards you. Projectile speed of 75 meters per second.
*Ability 1: Yaka Flame.* Lights The Yaka Arrow on fire for 5 seconds. Enemies hit by the Arrow during this time get a fire DoT for 3 seconds. Cooldown: like 10 seconds or 15 seconds or some such. (a lot of these numbers are just suggestions so ye can get a rough idea of what i'm thinkin)
*Ability 2: Yaka Flight.* The Yaka Arrow needs to be within 2 meters or less from Yondu in order to be activated. Yondu grabs The Yaka Arrow and enters a free flight mode, just like the Mary Poppins moment from Guardians Vol.2 except he can move in any direction, not just down. Cooldown: 0 seconds.
*Ultimate: Super Yaka.* Ult charge Cost is 3000, duration is 7 seconds. Essentially just Cole Cassidy’s ult from Overwatch but with the Yaka Arrow. During this time Yondu cant use ANY of his abilities. Essentially this scene: (th-cam.com/video/sSPpMb0RCFw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lTB9b6CtQIB5KSqB&t=14 )
*Team-Up Ability, Star Lord: Name TBD (Couldn't think of anything).* Star Lord gets a new ability. Once activated Star Lord’s next 2 mags deal fire damage and enemies hit by this have a fire status effect applied to them. Cooldown: 15 seconds. Fire Effect Damage: 10 health per second for 3 seconds.
*Team-Up Ability, Rocket Raccoon: Something Scanner (im not great at coming up with ability names).* Yondu gets a new ability. Yondu activates a scanner that reveals all enemies within 25 meters of Yondu. Duration: 10 seconds. Cooldown: 30 Seconds.
*Melee: Knuckle Dusters.* Yondu deals abit more melee damage than most other heroes and he's got a melee combo. I felt he needed some way of defending himself if the Yaka Arrow is too far away, it probably won't do much but some layer of defence is better than none.
*Notes:* To my knowledge there is essentially 3 main versions of Yondu: Earth 199999 (MCU), Earth 616 and Earth (i think) 691. 691 is the original version of the guy and personally? He really aint it for me. Bows are cool and all that but from a gameplay sense bow & homing arrows just aren't as cool as either 1 real powerful homing arrow or just a more simple bow and trick arrows, like Hawkeye. Now after the first Guardians movie Yondu of 616 was reworked into being closer to the MCU version of the guy but for some reason without the arrow making him essentially just a guy. Thus this concept as you could clearly tell was based pretty much entirely of of the MCU version as in my opinion he is both the most popular and well known version of the character and my Personal favorite version as well.
I felt the best way of balancing the Yaka Arrow was to not make it do an absurd amount of damage and to make Yondu himself just as squishy as Bruce Banner. I imagine flankers like Magik or Iron Fist would be able to make quick work of Yondu. Cuz something one has to remember is to keep the characters at least somewhat balanced i think.
I mentioned it but The Mandarin is taking abit longer but i do have other concepts im working on! I have written down a few ideas for Shang-Chi but he is far from ready. That which i have focused most of my Rivals-Concept-Attention is the idea of Crossover Characters! I honestly do not think we will ever get Crossover Characters, skins sure maybe but full on characters? nah i dont think so. But nevertheless i saw some people toss out ideas like Allmight and i saw some other anime character aswell and honestly? Seems fun so yeah i have been doing some Thinkin & concepting of both crossover characters and crossover skins!
Really love the kit, I get why you went with a more MCU choice, I recon I'd still go with the bow personally and then give him the whistle control as either an ability or an ult, but the way you designed the arrows flight was really awesome. I think the only thing I'd add to your kit would be a recall ability, that moves the arrow quicker than it normally does but places it just in a starting position Infront of yondu, maybe that ability doesnt let the arrow damage or something, just so when he gets dove he has some sort of chance
But other than that I love the idea
@@Hamato_House Thank you! yea i am quite fond of MCU yondu but i found it hard to get OG Yondu out of my head and after a lot of thinkin earlier today when i was out shoveling snow i had a brain blast. I was reminded of something Act Man mentioned in one of his Rivals videos, about how he speculated how netease maybe tried to combine both comic and mcu versions of characters and whether or not he was right the idea really stuck with me for Yondu.
Cuz like if one gives him a moveset more similar to his OG verison and a personality and history similar to his MCU version both those who are more familiar with the comics and those more familiar with the MCU would be able to recognize him as "yeah thats Yondu"! Like i remember seeing somewhere (dont rember where or when) a drawing or some such of a yondu design that combined them like that. Like he had the both the bow and massive Fin of the OG and the trenchcoat of the MCU and i remember it looking awesome! I feel that would also help give him a silhuette different enough from Hawkeye
So yeah i had a brain blast as said so here be a new updated concept for Yondu Udonta in Rivals!
*Role:* Dualist.
*Base Stats:* Health: 200 Movement Speed: 6 m/s
*Primary: Bow & Yaka Arrow.* Yondu has a large bow and a quiver of 20 or so Yaka Arrows. They are controlled just like the Half-Life rocket launcher or the Freeman from Borderlands 3 (th-cam.com/video/y1dN8mrVdxY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=F1XrverHrym_GYRK&t=92 ), they travel forwards automatically. Upon hitting a wall or target they stick to what they hit until Yondu reloads and recalls them. If they were stuck in an enemy they deal a small amount of damage to said enemy when recalled.
*Secondary: Yaka Flame.* The next 3 or 5 Yaka Arrows Inflict a fire DoT on the enemy they hit.
*Ability 1: Yaka Flight.* Needs at least 1 arrow left in the quiver to be activated. Yondu Grabs an arrow and enters a free flight mode.
*Ability 2: Triple Shot (or some such).* Yondu shoots 3 arrows at once
*Ultimate: Super Yaka.* Yondu unloads all his arrows from the quiver and his primary button now selects enemies. Selecting an enemy designates an arrow to automatically home in on them, you can select an enemy multiple times. Either when pressing the secondary button or once all arrows have been given a target all the arrows shoots out towards the targets. If you sent them out early any arrow you did not give a target just returns to your quiver.
*Passive 1: Centaurian Senses.* Retain vision of enemies that disappear form view for a short duration, just like Punisher’s Warrior’s Gaze.
*Team-Up Ability, Star-Lord: Name TBD (still couldn't think of anything).* Star-Lord gets a new ability. Same as i mentioned before.
*Team-Up Ability, Rocket Raccoon: Something Scanner (still couldn't think of anything).* Yondu Gets a new ability. Same as i mentioned before.
*Notes:* I am aware 20 or so arrows in the quiver might be a bit much from a gameplay perspective perhaps but that be how many OG Yondu had so yknow. Also i skipped out on numbers this time, i feel yall get a good enough idea of what i'm thinking anyways. For the triple shot i could also see like either 5 shots at once or just a temporary boost to the fire rate, just something thats more of a burst of damage or some such.
This feels even more like a cool and more importantly a cohesive kit! I especially love the ult, mainly because it gives the player choices whilst still embodying the badass feeling of yondu! You have to consider how many arrows to assign, whether to save some for after the ult, whether you have time to assign or not, and all of that!
I think a great passive would be they can’t get frozen/ stunned
I feel like ghost rider should be a vanguard while cosmic ghost rider a Dualist.
Wolverine should definitely get a Hellverine skin too， he looked so cool as Hellverine
Better yet add daken and give it him
i think the penance stare ult can be similar to the cassidy/mccree ult
Could you please do a concept for a Strategist Silver Surfer next?
All of the marvel pitches are chosen in the community poll on the channel page, unfortunately none of the cosmic ones have won quite yet, but stick around because i'll probably do a heralds of galactus option in the future at some point
Can you make a character ability template it’d be so cool if you make a server where we send our character ideas lol 🙏🏾🙏🏾
Honestly making a template isn't a bad idea yanno, as for a server atm I wanna stay away from that since I don't have the time or resources to manage one, if you do have any character ideas though feel free to leave them in the comments. I read all of them and even shout out my favourite at the end of vids
@ miles morales as a vanguard
Now it’s your time to cook
Great video
I think the first ghost rider could also function as a tank an I would personally prefer them as a tank
With tweaks to there moves but same gimmick
Robbie Reyes should be named the ghost driver
I want to correct you on the map suggestion but Limbo is not in hell. It is a separate eldritch dimension and souls do not go there it just has demons. Hela has her own Hel dimension separate from Hell. It’s different and all of these dimensions are not connected.
Thanks, I am aware they are different but they all represent hell in some way or another being based on different interpretations of Norse/catholic imagery and all that
Where can I read the War Machine/Rescue pitch?
Fair point, I'm going to pin it on the original post, under the obscure heroes video
DoT stands for Damage over Time
Do you call it an atm machine
😂
Well to answer honestly I'm not American so I call it a cash machine
PLS MAKE ONE FOR LIZARD!!!
i want ghost rider to be vanguard and not dps
understandable, thats why i did both
i think his fast and wild moves and imagery works best with a duelist but he just feels right as a vanguard
I want ghost rider but I want ghost rider 1, 000,000 bc
I do love him, hence mentioning him at the end of the video, maybe one day we'll see him
Cant do ghost rider because its a chinese company. Kinda sad, tbh.
Marvel snap has ghost rider and that's a Chinese company, I don't see why netease couldn't use him
NetEase is a Chinese company, but Rivals isn't necessarily a Chinese game. I imagine skull imagery wouldn't be prohibited in this case, but I could be wrong.
Uh
Punisher?
Not really, just look at Psylocke's skins
Those skins are normally not allowed in regular Chinese games, Marvel Rivals seems to exist in a different category of games Netease develops, for example, Netease's BR game, Naraka had an update where they make skins less lewd, hiding skin, adding more modest underwear, and reducing bust sizes. There's a chance that this will happen to Marvel Rivals as well, but I'd think that they wouldn't try again if they are not allowed as they have already been slapped for this before.
If you read the newer Ghost rider comics with Robie Reyes, he has less of a Skull and more of a skull helmet, that may be more palatable for chinese audiences
booo i wanted to see Miles :(
Ghost Rider is Cooler sorry
I would say we already have enough spider people.
Mile already have too many power from invisibility, electric, wall walk, web shot, and so on.