It's a freaking crime that both of these franchises aren't supported anymore. They are some of the most fun and unique sandbox games ever and they were just left to die for no reason
Honestly if Cole were a comic book hero Alex would probably be one of his best villains. They thematically similar they both have potential ways to win a fight against one another and if we use good cole we have get an interesting philosophic contrast as well. Plus Alex’s powers give him a good excuse to come back repeatedly which is great for mainstay villain
If they had a TV show, Alex would be a perfect main villain for Cole. He comes off crazy overpowered and evil, but he can die repeatedly and come back for another episode whenever Cole beats him. All the while, he's trying to get Cole to join the evil side, which is actually possible considering Evil Cole is a potential future
The fact Alex is a literal parasite who can survive if even a scrap of him survives does so much. Because a small chunk of flesh that gets eaten by a bug or a desperate animal will start it all over again.
@@Broomer52their contrast also is basically Superman vs Braniac/Lex Luthor in dynamic, Cole is a Working Man's Hero, he is just a Delivery Man who got really extreme Powers, Alex is a Smart brilliant Scientist that had lost all morals but has powers that makes him enough of a threat to Cole and means that he can't be defeated easily.
"Put Down" something people tend to forget but by the start of Prtotype Alex is dead. The player character is the blacklight virus. Not only that but the viruses ability to regenerate from the smallest amount of material means it very well could have survived the final fight of prototype 2. The ending of the first and second game are contradictory which has led to theories that James didn't actually kill "Alex Mercer" . Not only that the lore insinuates the only real match for him would be Pariah, the child of Elizabeth Green and a naturally occurring Black Light Virus
What I find interesting about Alex is that in the end, he welcomed his death. He was alone at the top of the food chain, the only of his kind. He tried to make others like him, but they were pale imitations, better than humans, but worse than him. Yet, when Heller had Alex at his mercy, he realized he *did* succeed in making someone like him. Better yet, someone *better* than him. Unlike Alex, who had no reason to maintain his humanity, Heller still did. "Welcome to top of the food chain" isn't meant to be rude, or even a compliment, it's a warning. Heller is going to be alone, like Alex was. He can try to fill that void with family and friends like Alex tried to, but even if Heller's family accepts him, he will likely outlive his own children and likely even grandchildren. He is at the top, and Alex could not be de-throned until something stronger came along. The same will likely happen to Heller. (Or would've if Prototype wasn't cancelled...)
To be fair, its been a long standing fan theory that either Alex isn't really dead or he wanted Heller to kill him (basically suicide the long way around).
now that wold be a real winner. Prototype with AAA graphics and smoother gameplay would be insane. Especially in this age of oversaturated goodguy superhero games
Cole can also recharge directly from a thunder storm. He’s done it before in the mission “The Storm” where he was literally calling down lightning from the sky to recharge himself.
God that mission was so sick. Hearing that one iceman calling out “he’s drawing energy from the storm!” and then them bringing everything they have in to desperately stop you was so cool. It really felt like you were top dog among the conduits bringing down a reckoning. Damn I miss Cole : (
@@jonathanjoestarwithpluck4930 Yes!! That’s was one of the best parts of it. Out of all 3 games that one mission is my favorite of all time. Same here man. I liked Cole a bit more than Delsin. It would be nice if we got another game featuring Cole but we can only hope.
Ok ngl it took me 2 rewatches to appreciate the “script-wrote-in-2013” joke, all the outdated videogame references, Boomstick ex-wife jokes and hearing Wiz say “Lets end this debate once and for all” brought back so many memories 😭🥺 I love Death Battle
I honestly thought it was Ionic Drain from (i wanna say) the second game, where its an ultimate, though maybe not since he had ice powers, so he was good karma
@@trankia1224I remember you could only be a certain amount of evil before you cant use ice though. Like max either locks the other route. Because I had an all fire set but when I beat the game it locked me out of fire because I went pure good. And beating either game caps out your karma. Also Nightmare grenade is op.
15:18 The delivery of that badass line, straight-up roasting his edgy foe while rejecting his offer, followed up by the siphon of electricity, the camera moving down from the tower, the brief violin note followed by the vocals, then the two preparing for an up close fight. This moment, this fight, is so epic.
I remember requesting this fight years ago and said they were "the kings of collateral damage." I figured the easiest way Cole could win was by using bio leech.
@@xxprototypexx5056bioelectricity is kinda what everything that's ever lived runs on so how would it resist if he took all the juice? Quit coping while you're ahead buddy, the virus despite being incredibly small on the microscopic level viruses are still living organisms, which means there's bioelectricity that can be absorbed, it's like a universal off button for living things
Just love how this fight was like 2000's boss fight for Cole with Alex going through his different stages. And when Alex tried infecting Cole, I could just hear the sound of mashing the X button to resist (or whatever it was for your gaming experience)
@@heinrichze-france4089 Funny thing about that thought, Asura's won a QTE fight with someone else that can use them before. God I love that game. (Not that God of War isn't great stuff.)
As an inFAMOUS fan this made me so happy, waiting 10 years was totally worth it. Cole and Alex were legends in the PS3/360 era of gaming and seeing the result just made me even more happy. God I wish inFAMOUS and Prototype got another chance to be relevant again they just brought a different vibe compared to other open-world sandbox games.
I literally just redownloaded these games a few days ago and then this uploaded the next day. I type in “prototype vs infamous” and had to do a double take when it said “uploaded yesterday”
I’d love to see a what if game of second son but cole became the beast. Me and a friend have planned out the plot and some choices but when we took it to sucker punch via their website they said “we’re too busy with our current projects and have no room for more ideas” but as far as I know he(my friend) still has the paper we drew together and if we could we love to give it to them.
This is a love letter to the Summer of 2009... being a teenager at that time was just awesome. And i can't express my love for these two franchises. Prototype is such a unique and fun experience where you feel like a god. But inFAMOUS will always be one of my favourite games ever. Well done to the DB Crew for what's one of the best Death Battles ever.
@@brandonwashington604 i think he means the parasite part where alex got injected with another virus digging through his body and losing his powers, and then injecting a hunter with a serum and consuming him, as a result killing the parasite and getting that sween blade and armor
There are some TRULY sick cosplays of Mercer and Heller out there. As in, at a convention they would get high-fives and picture requests, outside they would get screams and police called.
No, you got it, and honestly, that line suits him well. He would still commit to being a hero after so much crap he's been through. Unless, of course, he's the evil version lol.
@@hammerite6418 That is true. John White even convinced Cole that they could save many conduits with his method, which opened the door to another alternative. So it really came down to what was the best option for Cole to take. This makes Infamous 2 an awesome game!
This is definitely top 5 I’d say number 1 goes to dovahkin vs chosen undead given the reasons both of them fought was to complete their quest and save the day for everyone they’re sworn to protect.
To be fair, I’d also have the urge to fight against an edgy hedgehog that cut me off with his motorcycle or if the King of the seven seas splashed me by accident
@@BlaxkSunI'll just let you know that recently it's usually been the guy preventing the villain from causing damage or killing everyone that loses from the past few death battles (chosen undead failed to protect the first flame, making dragonborn end all existing life including itself/black adam had to watch apocalypse destroy his kingdom before dying, discord died but at least saved ponyville from bill's wrath, etc.) So yeah seeing cole successfully protecting the city from alex is clearly a bit new for me
Love the infamous 2 references, the finishing animation, the model of the helicopter that shoots at you, the tornado, the ice blast and the storm, it's very well done, I love this battle.
Well, unfortunately, consumers need to learn to stop shoveling money into it. Otherwise, companies like EA will keep on doing it. They are literally getting rewarded for doing something that we hate.
I’m confused by your comment? These are both single player games, do of course they have no micro transactions. There is still single player games like that today such as god of war or Spider-Man you can play start to finish no micro transactions needed. I think you’ve just been playing the wrong games bruh
What I find interesting about Alex is that in the end, he welcomed his death. He was alone at the top of the food chain, the only of his kind. He tried to make others like him, but they were pale imitations, better than humans, but worse than him. Yet, when Heller had Alex at his mercy, he realized he *did* succeed in making someone like him. Better yet, someone *better* than him. Unlike Alex, who had no reason to maintain his humanity, Heller still did. If Alex was the Prototype, Heller was the finished product. "Welcome to top of the food chain" isn't meant to be rude, or even a compliment, it's a warning. Heller is going to be alone, like Alex was. He can try to fill that void with family and friends like Alex tried to, but even if Heller's family accepts him, he will likely outlive his own children and likely even grandchildren. He is at the top, and Alex could not be de-throned until something stronger came along. The same will likely happen to Heller. (Or would've if Prototype wasn't cancelled...)
Mate, you may be cooking. If a hypothetical Prototype 3 were ever made, I think an interesting premise could involve an older but overtly un-aged James Heller having outlived everyone he ever loved and falling into despair, ultimately becoming a villain he initially despised. And the new protagonist viewing him as Heller did Mercer, but this time attempting to reinstate his lost humanity, desperately attempting to break the cycle of the Blacklight virus' influence. Heck, maybe even have a projection of Mercer haunting James, telling him the life of anguish inevitable and convincing him to fall into further depravity. Of course, Activision probably isn't gonna touch the franchise ever again, but I'd still love to imagine.
I'm partial to the theory that, since Alex is the blacklight virus, he actually makes all the other infected to create a genetic algorithm scenario. A genetic algorithm in AI is where the ai makes a bunch of slightly different copies, makes them compete at a task, and then chooses the best one. Alex makes a bunch of infected, and since whoever wins will have to absorb the others, he will ultimately still win. His consciousness and memories exist within Heller and they merge into one being. The blacklight virus still wins.
THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING! I remember fans pitting these two super-powered beings against each other on a daily basis when their respective games were released. Some of my fondest memories in gaming to this day. Thank you guys for seeing this through after all these years❤
Which could imply James heller failed to stop Alex leading to a black light virus infested apocalyptic earth where Kessler leads a resistance to try and fail to stop Alex leaving Kessler who having no clue as to Alex’s origins resorted to the next best thing and that is using his conduit powers to go back in time and both strengthening his younger self cole and warning him of the beast that would bring the end of world known as alex mercer
This is cap it is common knowledge that prototype writers for the second game drop the ball on Alex Murphy's character just to get a cash grab for a black guy as the main character they bitched Alex out in this match Alex can summon hordes of zombie infected giant kiju why he chose not to me even though he chose to use them on James Heller is ridiculous cuz if they were in a death battle I would use the last fight with James where Alex Mercer through everything I was the super intelligent virus and had already absorbed countless other intelligent people I would have worn down this individual with the growing army of my infected avenue and then when his defenses were at his lowest send one or two of my evolve generals to try and absorbed him then if that successful worked absorbed his power from them or if that failed keep sending down zombie and then go in my self 😭 it's like you writers don't know how to consciously use this character powers if you were to say that col could absorb bio electric energy from his hords of zombie I would go to say when u killed any character in game you could not absorb them but when there alive or on the verge of death hoe about in stead of picking a script out the trash we scale these characters right 👍👍👍😅
The first thing I thought when I saw this match up is how Cole has to constantly fight people with weird virus powers, but Alex has never dealt with anything like Cole before.
When did cole ever fight a virus powered villain? Also even if he had he has never fought someone even remotely similiar to alex. Alex can regenerate from almost anything, can make a wide variety of weapons from his own body, can absorb people and their memories and go on to become a perfect duplicate of said person. Cole has never fought someone like alex and vice versa
@@gbishop1774Cole fought Sasha in Infamous 1, who had mind controlling powers that were spread through a black goo liquid. In other words, her powers were pretty much a virus.
@@Sparlis sashas mind control and the blacklight virus are totally different. Cole could not heal a person Who was infected by a ray field plague which Is radiation poisoning from the ray field energy. Meanwhile the blacklight virus turns a normal human into An infected And it evolves into a building sized monster like how we saw in the beggining of prototype 2. Also, death battle literally did not mention anything about the beast getting hit by a 50 kiloton nuke which did far more damage than anything cole has ever done to him, cole even comfirmed himself that the beast Is dead. And they didn't even talk about alex's ability to adapt to almost any situation, like how he was First exposes ti bloodtox which was said to be a counter to the blacklight virus But alex was later immune to it. And death battle saying that alex had to beat his oponents to his level in order to consume them, coles bio leech literally works the exact same. Also they Got alex's consumption wrong because he consumes poeple by turning their body into biomass before he consumes them so even if cole Got alex off of him, a chunk of his body would still be consumed.
@@Mcmrw-kx2el you described perfectly the same thing that was the beast in the second game, and cole managed to deal with him on same level of power after he recovered all of it again
I wonder what the movie that cole had after he defeated alex was like: Probably something like: "I don't know what i expected, this "mercer" guy wasn't like any conduit i've ever faced before. The guy was nuts. But the thing about any of these crazed bastards is this: I will always do what it takes to protect my loved ones."
Or to imagine the evil Cole version: "Thought after the First Sons, after Bertrand, after the Beast, that I'd seen the worst Conduits this world had to offer. But this Mercer guy was on a whole other level. How many freaks as powerful as him are still kicking around? Doesn't matter. Whatever hole they're spawning from, I'll teach them to stay there. This world is mine."
I don't think that this comment was a "Who should have won comment", However I respect you opinion anyways. and I hope you have a nice day. @@xxprototypexx5056
When I was a child and at the beginning of the second Infamous game, I was _petrified_ going against The Beast. The game started off in the deep end and had me fight the final boss from the beginning in one of the most intense and destructive opening sequences I ever played. Ever since I learned of Prototype and the extreme violence, chaos, and exceptional music, I wanted these two to fight ever since
Back in the day I remember both fandoms just doing crossovers with Prototype and Infamous. It might have just been because they were both Original Superheroes with games released so close to each other or because they had such contrasting tones but we were all obsessed with Cole and Alex meeting each other
@@Broomer52 I did a quick youtube search and found at least 9 videos going from 1 year ago to 15 years ago making comparisons to the two franchises. That's not even getting into all the different forum discussions that popped up because of them
I was in my late teens when I finished both inFamous games, and yeah, I agree. The nostalgia hits. The early or mid 2010s wasn't that long ago, yet it feels like a completely different era
Bro SAME I WAS LITERALLY FRAKING OUT LIKE HOW I WOULD WHEN J WAS LITTLE it fr brought back so many memories i was just excited tbh that they finally covered cole mcgrath was def worth the wait
I think this was intentional, Infamous and prototype came out around the same time and had similar protagonists in a sense, I actually originally confused them
I can see it going either way, but I do feel Alex should of had a slight edge in a couple regards. One - pack hunters and biobombs. Heller is capable of it, and I do believe Alex is as well, can't quite recall. Second - Adaptability. Coles powers require electricity, and lots of it, but he doesn't generate as much as he can control and manipulate, I don't think. Been years since I beat the infamous games. Mercer has a vaguely similar limitation, potentially. But the issue is the speed of draining. They were in a city scape where Alex could find hundreds of victims to consume within seconds, whereas Cole would have to drain broken machines or downed power lines, which is shown in the games to take him longer. That's not, however, taking into account that Alex needs /biomass/, not human flesh. Plant life, rodents, insects all count, but so does one of Coles arms, which he could hypothetically heal, providing Alex a neverending source in the battle. Third - DNA. Coles DNA is changed, not human standard, but that gives Alex an edge. He duplicates someone on the genetic level... Meaning that he should be capable of the same feats as Cole's once he gets enough of his DNA. Tldr:Alex had access to more 'fuel', a few powers he didn't end up using, and can duplicate Cole's DNA based powers. Sidenote: I could be massively miss remembering things
@@adrianstrider4960 I remember for the particularly brutal missions in the Infamous games, I would always shoot a telephone pole and reabsorb the electricity at a bonus. The conversion rate between usage and drainage were quite strange. I'll argue that the RFI chargers during the beast boss fight prove that he is capable of drawing quickly, the energy grid charging RFI would just arc the energy to Cole. Biomass would still be quite plentiful in comparison, but in a large city, energy isn't so far off kilter.
Honestly im just mad they didn't give mercer the bio bomb, tendrils that heller has and summoning monster atleast they gave him that cool armor skin from prototype 2 though Edit:oh yeah and that move where he blast a kamekameha tendrils and ground spike
10 years in the making, and somehow the wait was worth it. If you weren’t in one on these series’ fandoms, you cannot comprehend how badly we all wanted this fight. And I gotta say, I am very happy with the outcome (and winner).
Microsoft could revive it since they bought activision, could even throw crackdown in the world with it or in a remake if they wanted to. If Xbox brought it back it could make Sony bring back Infamous which is a win-win situation for fans
@@wackywinston1777it kinda sucks to say but if these games were to come back it would probably be remakes but i really really want remasters for these games but companies choose remakes over remasters nowadays
@@char1363damn I would still play the hell out of an Infamous remake. Especially if they got the same tone as the original. It completely nailed that 2000’s comic book feel
That line was bad@ss but not technically accurate. Since Cole can't take powers from bio leech. Just bio electricity from the person. Then again bio electricity does power the body so technically it is taking his "power". So maybe it does work.
@@stellleo If he hasn't given him the idea Cole probably just would have vaporized him with a nuke level lightning bolt while simultaneously fully healing himself, it's honestly almost a mismatch
@@xxprototypexx5056 Ehhh, not really. Cole has better feats and a more versatile power, plus biolectric drain is practically a hard counter to Mercer. Not to mention the main villain of the Infamous series wiped entire cities in single attacks and Cole just tanked his attacks and eventually overpowered him.
@@EnbyOccultist no he doesn't, not even close. Cole's greatest speed feat was dodging a single radiowave from David, which isn't enough to say he's light speed since it's not consistently done. Mercer dodged the tendrils of the Supreme hunter, which created a sonic boom and even outpaced it. Mercer consistently dodged this over and over again, making him massively hypersonic. Cole had his bones crushed by the beast holding him tightly in their first fight(a being who's only strength feat was throwing a chunk of a building sized statue, Mercer and Heller could tank hits from Elizabeth and Goliath, beings who could oneshot tanks and destroy buildings. Cole doesn't even really have any proper strength feats outside of his kinetic pulse. even with kinetic pulse he could only lift cars. Mercer could throw tanks and apcs around with one hand like it were a beach ball. They claimed Cole Cole tank a raysphere blast, which isn't even a feat since conduits are guaranteed to survive a raysphere blast, and it did no where near as much damage as the 75 kiloton nuke in P1. Near the very end of P2, Alex was at the lvl where he could tank that nuke direct hit. Even the beast doesn't have as much durability since it was obliterated by a 51 kiloton nuke. "Bioleech is a hard counter to mercer" No, no it isn't. DBs argument on that stems on regular human biology and not virology. Mercer is the blacklight virus itself, virus don't have metabolic processes to produce energy to be drained. It's the reason why viruses aren't even considered alive IRL. don't believe DB just because they said so, they've been proven wrong over and over by their own logic. Wonder Woman vs Thor is a great example of that.
@@EnbyOccultist also, no, Cole's power isn't more versatile. Not even close. At ranged yes, but everywhere else, hell no. Cole's main specializes in loud ranged combat and sometimes sneaking out of enemy sight. Mercers power is still great in ranged combat, his shapeshifting abilities allow him to sneak around even in plain sight, and his assimilation abilities allow him to better his own skills and intellect as well as strength and speed. It even allows him to detect sleeper personnel and other targets he's after, which is how he knows exactly who the web of intrigue targets are and what they look like.
It should also be noted the "good" Cole, grew his powers to restore and conserve his energy so it's not even guaranteed that Alex could outlast him entirely either. That's not even considering his ability to absorb electricity from nearly everything.
Losing biomass also cuts off some off Alex’s more outwardly destructive powers and he has to keep consuming to keep healing. So while doesn’t get tired in the normal sense he can be worn down.
@@robrockstar9648 true although it’s mainly devastator attack which Death Battle only utilized Alex’s first normal devastator and no other ones like Graveyard spikes of Critical Mass Dev which would’ve seriously hurt Cole if hit and bypass his shields since his shields can only block bullets, not rockets or anything else of the sort, PLUS Alex has consumed people already GOING OVER his maximum biomass capacity so god knows how long it would take to wear him down since he can EASILY create infected like GOLIATHS which tower over anything and everything Alex has ever faced in Prototype 1 AND they can’t even be destroyed by conventional weaponry which is why only Heller could stop them, so a SINGLE Goliath could’ve easily wiped Manhattan off the map itself
I have how Wiz said "Let's end this debate once and for all" like he used to say before the fight would start. I love how they wanted to make this feel like an old script they had just slept on doing for over a decade.
Activated conduits are immune to diseases, which is why the plaque never affected Cole, so the blacklight virus would most likely have no effect on him.
Not immune to disease, immune to The Rayfield Plague. The Plague was caused by the same energy that empowered The Conduits so any awakened Conduit was immune to it. That was the whole point of The Beast's rampage in InFamous 2. To force human evolution by empowering all Conduits on earth at the expense of the other 99% of the world's population.
@@WeaponXSigma Think it would have been different if we saw mercer abusing his ability consume normal people to regenerate though. That was a really big thing to take into account for the fighting was him eating enemies as the battle went on. If Mercer had kept running off to regenerate and charge by eating humans in the area I think he'd have stood a better chance all things considered. It's hard to think about who would win in this fight since it would come down to who ran out of energy sources first. Mercer is no fool either. If he saw cole charging off the power grid he'd pull back and just start breaking the grid left, right, and center. TL:DR I feel like due to the intelligence of both sides and their separate regeneration capabilities a change in arena and resources would greatly shift how this fight would go. This type of fight would potentially go on for WEEKS if not months.
Alex's virus is like trying to infect a fire to become poisonous. As long as Cole's abilities were still active, it'll burn off anything Mercer threw at him.
Both of these games were a blast to play, and I'm glad you guys brought us along on this trip down memory lane. I wonder if there are any more scripts that have been put in cold storage until the world needed them most... LIKE SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG!
One thing I really appreciate about most fights is how close it seems - Each character gets to show off and shine, making you realize what each person's advantages are as the fight goes on, and making you wonder how the other is going to get out of it, or at least try to, and even when it does simply come down to who can hit the hardest, run the fastest, take the most tons of TNT to the face or whatever, it still feels like a fairly even fight where they really have to push the limits of what they can do
Right, they never discount any character's raw skills or abilities even if the odds are impossible. It's a lot more entertaining than simply saying "He stands no chance." It's the same logic that makes a lot of Superhero movies work, making the fight evenly fought just shows that they are real fans of both characters regardless of who ends up on top.
15:11 to 15:24 is so damn perfect for me. Everything to Mercer trying to convince Cole that humans are just beneath them and they could rule over them ( Classic Villain right there ) and Cole just outright mocked him for saying so. Easy Top 10 favorite Death Battles for me from that moment alone.
Longtime Infamous fangirl personally and even I was thinking the same Thought Alex's healing and arena control were gonna get him the win but I had never been so happy to have been wrong in a while with this show ♡
@@megamagner618 yes but hellers durability and adaptability are leagues better than mercer, Ontop of that hellers body is a hybrid of the virus and heller meaning that his body is less likely to be overtaxed like Mercers was Not saying it would be a one sided fight but speed isn’t everything and heller has ways to restrain faster opponents
@@FadedFlash7Doesn't work that way. Delsin needs to come in direct contact to a Prime Conduit to get new powers. Alex powers are a result of the Blacklight Virus, so Delsin wouldn't get them.
Not going to lie, but Cole shutting down Alex's speech of a 'better world' bull crap is oddly satisfying. Goes to show how well written the character arc is for Cole, while Alex still stuck in the same place he always did because he let the choices of the few taint his world view on humanity. While Cole is always changing, Alex never seems to change. Ironic knowing Alex has power over evolution.
Alex had his mind molded by the diagnosed narcissistic psychopath that was Dr. Mercer. He was an almost exact clone of the man so he might have been doomed from the start. Dr. Mercer was a bad man and Alex was molded after him with even less real world experience. He was probably never going to grow
There's also the fact that Cole has crossed paths with quite a few megalomaniacal types who are convinced they know best for everyone and try to impose their worldview through violent means. Makes sense that when he heard the same spiel coming out of Alex's mouth, he was having none of it.
I had a feeling this was gonna go hard, but THIS hard? Like, seriously, this was so utterly awesome in every conceivable way. The writing, the action, the line deliveries. What is up with this season being so fire?
@@Toximati0n I didn't care too much for Boba vs Predator, Deku vs Asta, or the finale either, but those are all at least mid, better than some of the actually bad episodes we had in season 8 for sure
Also back in 2013, they weren't all that great at researching like they are now. Some people would disagree that they are good now, but they do actual math while in the past they just went "eh, they could probably do this and win" most of the time.
And yet they still didn't bother using the Sonic booms, or when Alex Mercer does his speed that exceeds the tank rounds, which are projectiles moving at supersonic speeds, and death battle gave no Feats whatsoever to Cole in terms of speed. And they didn't bother making a tornado, as Alex Mercer runs circles around his opponent who is unable to perceive him. But that just takes all the fun out of the battle doesn't it Eddit: Cole didn't get a Speed-Feat, but that was for routing electricity hisun and routing electricity is not the same as moving from point A to point B in reaction to a weapon firing at you.
For many years, we have waited. And now that this episode has come out, it has become the most EPIC AND BADASS EPISODE OF THE SEASON!!! 2009 nostalgia be peaking!
Agreed, I've wanted this fight long before I heard of death battle and immediately after playing both games. And again, everything I put on one of their games again
What I love about this fight in particular is the dynamic between the two. Alex is very clearly the antagonistic, powerful force of the fight and I love Cole having to use his entire arsenal to overcome the monstrous Blacklight virus. Makes this one stand out amongst a lot of other fights. I was actually worried on having fights voted on by fans, as I thought there wouldn’t be enough production time to make them work. But I am truly amazed, this and Bill vs Discord were incredible! Oh and, [InHuman] is a fantastic track. It’s been stuck in my head since the first time I listened to it, and it goes so well with the action on screen. Well done, everyone!
Even if we assume that Cole’s force field doesn’t literally convert matter into energy, since that has never been proven to actually be possible, at the very least it can be reasonably assumed that it disassembles matter to the atomic level since the Ray Field and the Beast can do the same thing. This would involve breaking both intermolecular and intramolecular chemical bonds, allowing Cole to absorb the chemical energy released as a result of the bond breakage and become even stronger. Meanwhile, since Alex can only regenerate from molecular DNA, he would be completely unable to regenerate from the disassembled atoms. I find it funny that one of Cole’s defensive abilities alone could instantly nullify Alex’s healing factor and kill him.
@@xxprototypexx5056 Which doesn’t matter because he’s still powerful enough to do it and nothing suggests he doesn’t know how to do it as he literally relearned his powers and more.
@skeety7883 no he isn't, if he was then he wouldn't have had to replace it with an ice version to begin with. He lost many of his powers after the first fight with the beast, powers such as karmic overload, grind drain and gigawatt blades never came back.
@@xxprototypexx5056 🤦♂️ He literally relearned all of his powers, it’s not that hard to understand. I guess Alex just doesn’t get a vast majority of his abilities then since he never uses them in the second game and Heller never gets any of them after absorbing Alex 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️.
@@skeety7883 Cole did not relearn all of his powers, he permanently lost grind draining, gigawatt blades and karmic overload. And had to replace some with ice variants to get it back. Your being disingenuous.
@@dio2076ok and? Torrian is an amazing animator but you can't just discredit the 3d team just because they're not torrian We've been getting really good 3d fights lately, like Sauron vs Lich King, Dragonborn vs Chosen Undead, Vader vs Obito and this fight
As a huge fan of both games, you guys did not disappoint. Regardless of who won, I'm just happy this Death Battle even happened. And this fight was AWESOME, by the way.
I remember commenting for this exact video way back when, and now we finally got it. Thank you Death Battle for brining me back to my childhood and letting me live it out. You guys are awesome and this video was awesome.
@@TheBowTizzle True, that CinemaSins style of criticism where seemingly every commonly used storytelling tool is automatically a writing flaw, regardless of how it's used in context, seems to be quite popular in TH-cam comment sections
@@ZLunas Been a long time since I've heard of that channel. That still alive? I remember a lot of people getting annoyed at them for becoming nitpicky just to find something to consider a sin in movies.
This fight was... just about perfect. Especially if you were a fan of inFamous or [PROTOTYPE]. The rivalry goes full circle, and the fight scene really felt like a mortal struggle between both combatants. I may not have played either of these games, but I must admit that was really epic. What a satisfying conclusion to such a long, heated video game rivalry.
I remember when Yahtzee/Zero Punctuation asked the companies to duel each other by drawing the other company’s character in women’s lingerie and Infamous won the challenge
@@farenhaid13421their sprite fights have definitely improved however, just look at Rogue vs Wonder Woman compared to Goku Black vs Reverse Flash (my personal favorite DB)
I wont lie the presentation of this deathbattle definitely paints Cole as a Hero, and thus protagonist energy. Its no wonder he won while it also feels... correct. Ive never played either game series but this sort of thing did keep me engaged. Especially at the end where it seemed like Cole was going to get absorbed, only for his own power to surge and just defy the darkness.
It's not correct though, DB got so many details wrong and even gave him evil abilities such as arc lightning when they said they were only using good Cole. Don't believe them for even a second
@@skeety7883 yeah, cuz I'm coping over a fake video created by incompetent people proven to be wrong over and over right? Your talking like a child. Treating conversations like they are competitions.
12:48 Battle starts here Also, I like how Wiz says "Let's end this debate once and for all!" instead of "And we've run the data through all possibilities!" pointing out further how, the script for this episode was from all the way back in 2013.
No doubt guys to me was one of the most ICONIC fight i EVER seen on this channel Thanks guys for bring us Alex Mercer from Prototype i freaking love this character As always Death Battle never disapointed
I like this battle. I also like how united the community is on this one. Initially, I thought that Alex would win, simply because he is a literal nightmare of a bioweapon that had to be killed by a better version of the virus than himself to be taken out in the end. But in the end, seeing just how many powers Cole actually had, and exactly what he could do with them.... yeah, i can see why the battle concluded like this. I don't think I mind this ending. thank you for finally making it.
Alex should have won though, DB made facts up and based things on pure theories such as Coles shield turning bullets into energy when the strategy guide states it's only converting the kinetic energy of the round into energy and not the round itself.
@@spinozilla2421 @spinozilla2421 no he doesn't, even by their own logic he doesn't lose. They claimed Cole was resistant to blacklight, but they never once said that he was immune. Immune means it won't effect him at all, whereas resistant means he's less effected by it but will still eventually succumb to it. By their own logic, the virus should still end up eventually killing or turning Cole. And no, Cole cannot vaporize anything. That was an entirely new myth made by DB. They claimed that cole disintegrated the beast at the atomic lvl when he used the RFI, which takes rayfield radiation away(aka what the beast was made of). Even if he could disintegrate, that's not a killing blow like you think it is. Alex is the blacklight virus itself. So long as the virus exists, he will always exist. He spread himself across New York as well as everywhere he's ever been. Which is why he states at the end of the 2nd game that he has moved beyond life and death. He's effectively unkillable.
@@spinozilla2421 no they didn't, they are wrong even by their own logic. They claimed Cole was resistant to blacklight, but they never said he was immune. Immune means he wouldn't be affected at all whereas resistance means it's less effective, but will still succumb. By their own logic, the virus should still end up killing or turning Cole.
Most death battle music is made by Brandon Yates and therewolf media. They also make fan commission tracks if you’re interested in other songs they’ve done.
As a huge infamous nerd, I didn’t think Cole had chance to be honest! I thought Delsin could, considering he eventually learned to manipulate multiple element types, but didn’t really break it down to the molecular level like you guys did! What an episode. Cole is one cold MF.
@@DoubleJ-jt1ty Whether or not it's relateable doesn't change if its evil or not. Attempting a genocide can't ever really be considered much else than evil.
@@thelonecourier3439 I'm still absolutely sure that the end of Prototype 2 was a play of Alex. Just thinking about it, we never learned why Alex would restart the virus after Prototype 1 was all about containing it. As a character he never was power hungry or downright evil (at least in the game narrative). But then he starts the 2nd spreading, places his pawns, infects the main character for no apparent reason, and abducts his family to have a big standoff on a tower. Can anyone really say here that this didn't feel orchestrated? I wouldn't wonder when Alex just a few seconds after getting killed was growing back in some cocoon some miles away somehow having accomplished his goal, whatever it was. Also, regarding a 3rd part, we never actually learned what happened to Pariah (son of Elizabeth Greene), who was told to be the perfect avatar of the virus in this whole story. There's just so much left open!
For all who have no idea: This pinned message is the symbol that represents this matchup in GF stylised cipher wheel that many fans have caught in blink and you miss it moment from trailer for Season 10. Later same wheel was seen in track art for Discord vs Bill halfway through the season and confirmed which matchup have happened. Scales for this one make sense more than recycle, they're both are in borders between good and evil. Cole leaning more into it while with Alex it's more of a hero living long enough till he becomes villain.
@@maniacalmalamar8332Yeah since Goku VS Superman (2023) took that one but yeah, I had a feeling that this was the Scales given how Morality plays a part in both Cole’s and Alex’s stories, well more so for Cole given that he has to deal with his Good and Bad Karma in inFAMOUS.
Bro just looking at this matchup, I thought Cole would lose too. In fact, because they used good Cole, I was so sure he would lose that I wished that they had used beast Cole instead. At least that way, even if he still lost, the fight would be much closer. Needless to say, I’m pleasantly surprised and I can confidently say that my favorite version of Cole, beast Cole, would stomp Alex no problem.
@VJ2099 When they mentioned Alex's regeneration and how he can infect others I thought he had it in the bag. Then when Cole was winning at the beginning I was like, "Nooo. Whoever wins at the beginning loses." But I'm so glad they proved us wrong.
@@VJ2099 Yeah I don't know that much about Prototype, but I was assuming good Cole would lose and evil Cole would win, I was hoping they would use Cole's full powerset, but oh well glad he won regardless
Both of these games were big parts of growing up for me and I wanted a death battle ever since I've played them, I didn't think Cole stood a chance but I still really wanted him to win, and to have the fight of my dreams and to have Cole win in a way that made perfect sense, absolutely phenomenal
omfg thank you guys so much for making this me and my buddy have been arguing about this since these games came out and I always was of the opinion that Cole would be the one more likely to win. All the years of being called an idiot are finally behind me 😂
Seriously. Alex should have won. He processed Elizabeths billion yo intellect in just 25 seconds, making him millions of times FTL. Cole shouldn't even be able to touch him
“So much power and yet you waste it on these vermin, you and I can change this world for the better" The only vermin I see here is you" very glorious lines
man this death battle brought me back, even tho i wasnt there when infamous released, i played the living hell out of it, and still do on occasions today, i hope they bring back these two kickass games again!
It's a freaking crime that both of these franchises aren't supported anymore. They are some of the most fun and unique sandbox games ever and they were just left to die for no reason
I mean what could they have with Second Son??
I agree though, Prototype was a cool series and I enjoyed playing it through somewhat,
No it's good they didn't support them no more and not run them into the ground and corrupted by microtransaction and just burned out.
At the very least - Use the idea behind Prototype to make a Venom game.
@@NARUTO-lz1kqI did like second son so I would like a sequel to it lol
@@shadowgear7032 Same here.
"No, see powers don't kill people. Oh no, its the person behind the powers that kills people."
- Cole MacGrath
I just beat infamous 2 again recently with the evil ending, plus having the reaper skin on Cole, it made that line hit with a much darker meaning
@@KingShalamarhow do you change skins on infamous 2, I remember it as a kid but I totally forgot how to do it
@@GlobalOutcast Somewhere in settings after you've bought it
Casually ignores all the times I stepped in a puddle and stopped random civilian's hearts on complete accident. >.>
TRUTH! I agree.
Alex and Cole are literally the definition of "Either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain"
Mostly Alex.
Honestly if Cole were a comic book hero Alex would probably be one of his best villains. They thematically similar they both have potential ways to win a fight against one another and if we use good cole we have get an interesting philosophic contrast as well. Plus Alex’s powers give him a good excuse to come back repeatedly which is great for mainstay villain
@@robrockstar9648I'd read that.
You just gave a good idea for an Infamous 3@@robrockstar9648
Anti-Hero vs Anti-Villain
If they had a TV show, Alex would be a perfect main villain for Cole. He comes off crazy overpowered and evil, but he can die repeatedly and come back for another episode whenever Cole beats him. All the while, he's trying to get Cole to join the evil side, which is actually possible considering Evil Cole is a potential future
Hold up! Let him cook!
The fact Alex is a literal parasite who can survive if even a scrap of him survives does so much. Because a small chunk of flesh that gets eaten by a bug or a desperate animal will start it all over again.
DON'T GET ME HYPED UP FOR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN GOD DAMMIT!!!
Also like any good Comic Book Villain he can always come back and torment Cole
@@Broomer52their contrast also is basically Superman vs Braniac/Lex Luthor in dynamic, Cole is a Working Man's Hero, he is just a Delivery Man who got really extreme Powers, Alex is a Smart brilliant Scientist that had lost all morals but has powers that makes him enough of a threat to Cole and means that he can't be defeated easily.
Alex: "You can't beat me, Cole. I am a god!"
Cole: "You're not a god, you're a parasite!"
Is that a Dr who reference?
@@peterstoric6560 Is it? I don't think so.
@@wisdomcube3.019 it’s a hell of a coincidence then. The line, “You’re not a god, your just a parasite” is right out of an episode of Dr who
Is it a Venom reference?
@@Sean-Johnson it's a Doctor Who reference.
Honestly kinda glad this one was delayed so long, the animation was top tier. Fantastic as always. Big thanks to all the folks at screw attack!
Uummm... cause of the "old script"??
@@christopherfiore6820better animations now than what could have been possible a decade back
@@dragomegaman3711 The graphics were close to Deadpool vs. Deathstroke, and that was quite a while ago.
Better animation, shittier fight choreography. Cole literally got stabbed though the chest and survived which was stupid.
While both ultimately died- Cole let himself die for the greater good while Alex was put down for the greater good.
turning everyone back into wage slaves is a sociopathic k ! ke mentality
"Put Down" something people tend to forget but by the start of Prtotype Alex is dead. The player character is the blacklight virus. Not only that but the viruses ability to regenerate from the smallest amount of material means it very well could have survived the final fight of prototype 2. The ending of the first and second game are contradictory which has led to theories that James didn't actually kill "Alex Mercer" . Not only that the lore insinuates the only real match for him would be Pariah, the child of Elizabeth Green and a naturally occurring Black Light Virus
What I find interesting about Alex is that in the end, he welcomed his death. He was alone at the top of the food chain, the only of his kind. He tried to make others like him, but they were pale imitations, better than humans, but worse than him. Yet, when Heller had Alex at his mercy, he realized he *did* succeed in making someone like him. Better yet, someone *better* than him. Unlike Alex, who had no reason to maintain his humanity, Heller still did.
"Welcome to top of the food chain" isn't meant to be rude, or even a compliment, it's a warning. Heller is going to be alone, like Alex was. He can try to fill that void with family and friends like Alex tried to, but even if Heller's family accepts him, he will likely outlive his own children and likely even grandchildren. He is at the top, and Alex could not be de-throned until something stronger came along. The same will likely happen to Heller. (Or would've if Prototype wasn't cancelled...)
To be fair, its been a long standing fan theory that either Alex isn't really dead or he wanted Heller to kill him (basically suicide the long way around).
@@FOXCYBORGNINJAnah he's canonically confirmed dead. Glad he is otherwise his sacrifice would kinda lose a lot of his impact.
Rip Sam Mowry, he was the voice of Kessler and sadly passed away on July 20th
(1959 - 2024)
This fight feels like an edgy 2000s superhero flick complete with the villain goading the hero to join them.
I think that's the idea.
And it's all the better for it!
Is 2009 close enough?
Though development for both games probably started around 2005
@@toob_noob4381Well, 2009 is still the 2000s
@@Mroquelle sorry thought you said early 2000's. It says edgy. My bad
Now I’m hoping Infamous and Prototype get remakes someday.
now that wold be a real winner. Prototype with AAA graphics and smoother gameplay would be insane. Especially in this age of oversaturated goodguy superhero games
Infamous and Prototype remakes, released as a bundle, with a team-up sequel.
been hoping since the ps4
Throw the darkness onto that pile another gem from that era that deserves another game
I still want a legitimate inFamous 3. Second son was a letdown
Cole can also recharge directly from a thunder storm. He’s done it before in the mission “The Storm” where he was literally calling down lightning from the sky to recharge himself.
God that mission was so sick. Hearing that one iceman calling out “he’s drawing energy from the storm!” and then them bringing everything they have in to desperately stop you was so cool. It really felt like you were top dog among the conduits bringing down a reckoning. Damn I miss Cole : (
@@jonathanjoestarwithpluck4930 Yes!! That’s was one of the best parts of it. Out of all 3 games that one mission is my favorite of all time. Same here man. I liked Cole a bit more than Delsin. It would be nice if we got another game featuring Cole but we can only hope.
@@jayb234
Yeah but sadly they followed the player's first choices for making sequels and people chose Hero rather than Infamous
I always did both the hero and infamous playthroughs in infamous
@@Shadow-479 same here. I always played good first and then wreaked havoc after on another save.
Ok ngl it took me 2 rewatches to appreciate the “script-wrote-in-2013” joke, all the outdated videogame references, Boomstick ex-wife jokes and hearing Wiz say “Lets end this debate once and for all” brought back so many memories 😭🥺
I love Death Battle
Wiz also brought back the “That’s right boomstick” line
OMG I just noticed the "Lets wnd this debate". I wonder why they didn't do this battle back then.
@@misteraskman3668 I guess Technology wasn’t there to re-create it the way they did in this animation.
I didn't even realize Wiz stopped using that "let's end this debate" line. Wonder why? 🤔
@@DLxxx yeah its weird, i thought it was always there
I love how Cole's finishing move was one of his simplest, most lethal moves he can have.
A Bioelectric Drain/ Thunder Drop combo.
I honestly thought it was Ionic Drain from (i wanna say) the second game, where its an ultimate, though maybe not since he had ice powers, so he was good karma
@@saragenren6139 the power you choose isn't tied to begin good or evil, it helps in those areas, but you can be evil with ice powers and vice versa.
@@trankia1224I remember you could only be a certain amount of evil before you cant use ice though. Like max either locks the other route. Because I had an all fire set but when I beat the game it locked me out of fire because I went pure good. And beating either game caps out your karma. Also Nightmare grenade is op.
@@yureiotakughost9464 I think you were playing a different game than me, infamous 1&2 didn't have fire powers.
I don't recall fire powers...but if you beat the game twice (good once, evil once) you will actually unlock the use of all powers. Cole is simply OP.
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The delivery of that badass line, straight-up roasting his edgy foe while rejecting his offer, followed up by the siphon of electricity, the camera moving down from the tower, the brief violin note followed by the vocals, then the two preparing for an up close fight. This moment, this fight, is so epic.
Plus the music and the animation make this even more epic!
So true does anyone know the song playing in the fight it was sick I want it in my play list
@@jasonrock4428 [inHuman] by Brandon Yates
@@innonimate- thanks man that is some awesome music
whats the music?
I remember requesting this fight years ago and said they were "the kings of collateral damage."
I figured the easiest way Cole could win was by using bio leech.
Bioleeching wouldn't work though, mercer is a virus. Not a living thing.
Even though that actually wouldn't work at all.
@@xxprototypexx5056bioelectricity is kinda what everything that's ever lived runs on so how would it resist if he took all the juice? Quit coping while you're ahead buddy, the virus despite being incredibly small on the microscopic level viruses are still living organisms, which means there's bioelectricity that can be absorbed, it's like a universal off button for living things
Care to explain you stupid man?
Just love how this fight was like 2000's boss fight for Cole with Alex going through his different stages. And when Alex tried infecting Cole, I could just hear the sound of mashing the X button to resist (or whatever it was for your gaming experience)
Great. now I want to see a death battle edit with Quick time Event prompts throughout the fight
@tigergamer998 If Kratos vs Asura gets made, this totally should be in it!
@@heinrichze-france4089 Funny thing about that thought, Asura's won a QTE fight with someone else that can use them before. God I love that game. (Not that God of War isn't great stuff.)
As an inFAMOUS fan this made me so happy, waiting 10 years was totally worth it. Cole and Alex were legends in the PS3/360 era of gaming and seeing the result just made me even more happy. God I wish inFAMOUS and Prototype got another chance to be relevant again they just brought a different vibe compared to other open-world sandbox games.
As a fan of the Sony franchise, it's just great to see a Sony character have a strong comeback and win.
I feel the same 😂
I literally just redownloaded these games a few days ago and then this uploaded the next day. I type in “prototype vs infamous” and had to do a double take when it said “uploaded yesterday”
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said
I’d love to see a what if game of second son but cole became the beast. Me and a friend have planned out the plot and some choices but when we took it to sucker punch via their website they said “we’re too busy with our current projects and have no room for more ideas” but as far as I know he(my friend) still has the paper we drew together and if we could we love to give it to them.
This is a love letter to the Summer of 2009... being a teenager at that time was just awesome. And i can't express my love for these two franchises. Prototype is such a unique and fun experience where you feel like a god. But inFAMOUS will always be one of my favourite games ever. Well done to the DB Crew for what's one of the best Death Battles ever.
Prototype makes you feel like an evil demigod. Infamous makes you truly feel like a super hero.
omg, truly a love letter to summer 2009
Yes.
I feel the same way. I th
@@lockpickrogue-yc5wc Or an absolute bastard if you chose to play evil Cole
I waited 9 years for this Death Battle. Totally worth it.
Same
I'm glad you think so.
WE waited 9 years for this Deathbattle
Wake me up when they do Warhammer 40k one day :P
Me too
Completing the absurd arc for regaining your powers in Prototype 1 was hands down one of the most satisfying experiences in all of gaming.
You never regained your powers
@@brandonwashington604 umm, yes he did, lol
@@xxprototypexx5056 no he didn’t if you mean at the beginning that was in the future and then they went to to past up till that point
@@brandonwashington604 i think he means the parasite part where alex got injected with another virus digging through his body and losing his powers, and then injecting a hunter with a serum and consuming him, as a result killing the parasite and getting that sween blade and armor
@@darthkaliath4014 oh well bro needs to specify
No matter who wins, I think we can all agree that Alex Mercer got that drip
Yeah, i honestly want that jacket he wears in real life
@@DuffyDevilSaaaame
Facts
Emo vs Grunge be like
There are some TRULY sick cosplays of Mercer and Heller out there. As in, at a convention they would get high-fives and picture requests, outside they would get screams and police called.
This is a pretty sick battle honestly, it felt like a classic superhero movie battle
It is it’s basically Electro against Carnage if their on steroids
That’s a perfect way of phrasing it.
@tandemzero3274 Speaking of which, how do you think Cole would fare agsinst Electro in a fight?
@@dragonman2168he would smoke standard electro im ngl
@@rinvalentine7108 And why do you say that? Just out of curiosity.
One of the most requested matches in Death Battle finally came. This was worth the wait no matter who wins.
This is legit one of the best death battles I've personally ever seen!
"this world may not be perfect, but it sure as hell better without you" - Cole MacGrath
I may have misheard it a little but it is still the same
No, you got it, and honestly, that line suits him well. He would still commit to being a hero after so much crap he's been through. Unless, of course, he's the evil version lol.
@@TComms05even evil Cole had good intentions no one was sure that the rfi would work and he was saving as many people as he could
@@hammerite6418 That is true. John White even convinced Cole that they could save many conduits with his method, which opened the door to another alternative. So it really came down to what was the best option for Cole to take. This makes Infamous 2 an awesome game!
@@TComms05mercer=Cole without morals.
Scene 1.
Always love when they're able to make a situation where the characters would actually fight
I mean this one is pretty simple seeing one is a hero and the others a villain.
This is definitely top 5 I’d say number 1 goes to dovahkin vs chosen undead given the reasons both of them fought was to complete their quest and save the day for everyone they’re sworn to protect.
To be fair, I’d also have the urge to fight against an edgy hedgehog that cut me off with his motorcycle or if the King of the seven seas splashed me by accident
@@G0LD0GG09 What are the other top 5's?
@@BlaxkSunI'll just let you know that recently it's usually been the guy preventing the villain from causing damage or killing everyone that loses from the past few death battles (chosen undead failed to protect the first flame, making dragonborn end all existing life including itself/black adam had to watch apocalypse destroy his kingdom before dying, discord died but at least saved ponyville from bill's wrath, etc.) So yeah seeing cole successfully protecting the city from alex is clearly a bit new for me
"The world isn't perfect, but it's a lot better without you in it".
God that line is badass
Indeed it was, narratively too!
It suits Cole perfectly tbh. Badass line and superhero.
It genuinely feels like it's something Cole would say, as well. It's very in character.
The proper response to any politician
@@kin4386 my favorite is “the only vermin I see here is you”
Love the infamous 2 references, the finishing animation, the model of the helicopter that shoots at you, the tornado, the ice blast and the storm, it's very well done, I love this battle.
I really miss this era of gaming. The era of full, complete, badass and fun games with no microtransactions 😢
So do I!
When gamers werent satisfied with just waiting for the update 🙄
Well, unfortunately, consumers need to learn to stop shoveling money into it. Otherwise, companies like EA will keep on doing it.
They are literally getting rewarded for doing something that we hate.
I’m confused by your comment? These are both single player games, do of course they have no micro transactions. There is still single player games like that today such as god of war or Spider-Man you can play start to finish no micro transactions needed. I think you’ve just been playing the wrong games bruh
@@LumpKingDLOit's just another generic "good ol day" comment
What I find interesting about Alex is that in the end, he welcomed his death. He was alone at the top of the food chain, the only of his kind. He tried to make others like him, but they were pale imitations, better than humans, but worse than him. Yet, when Heller had Alex at his mercy, he realized he *did* succeed in making someone like him. Better yet, someone *better* than him. Unlike Alex, who had no reason to maintain his humanity, Heller still did. If Alex was the Prototype, Heller was the finished product.
"Welcome to top of the food chain" isn't meant to be rude, or even a compliment, it's a warning. Heller is going to be alone, like Alex was. He can try to fill that void with family and friends like Alex tried to, but even if Heller's family accepts him, he will likely outlive his own children and likely even grandchildren. He is at the top, and Alex could not be de-throned until something stronger came along. The same will likely happen to Heller. (Or would've if Prototype wasn't cancelled...)
Mate, you may be cooking. If a hypothetical Prototype 3 were ever made, I think an interesting premise could involve an older but overtly un-aged James Heller having outlived everyone he ever loved and falling into despair, ultimately becoming a villain he initially despised. And the new protagonist viewing him as Heller did Mercer, but this time attempting to reinstate his lost humanity, desperately attempting to break the cycle of the Blacklight virus' influence. Heck, maybe even have a projection of Mercer haunting James, telling him the life of anguish inevitable and convincing him to fall into further depravity.
Of course, Activision probably isn't gonna touch the franchise ever again, but I'd still love to imagine.
I'm partial to the theory that, since Alex is the blacklight virus, he actually makes all the other infected to create a genetic algorithm scenario. A genetic algorithm in AI is where the ai makes a bunch of slightly different copies, makes them compete at a task, and then chooses the best one. Alex makes a bunch of infected, and since whoever wins will have to absorb the others, he will ultimately still win. His consciousness and memories exist within Heller and they merge into one being. The blacklight virus still wins.
Is just game bro chill
@@kinjorex101 you motherfuckers are cookin uppppppp
@@e.j5813is just idea bro chill
THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING!
I remember fans pitting these two super-powered beings against each other on a daily basis when their respective games were released. Some of my fondest memories in gaming to this day.
Thank you guys for seeing this through after all these years❤
Even in a lingerie contest
Damn straight!💯
Now I’m imagining an alternate plot line of infamous 2 where instead of the beast tearing through the United States it’s alex Mercer instead
Which could imply James heller failed to stop Alex leading to a black light virus infested apocalyptic earth where Kessler leads a resistance to try and fail to stop Alex leaving Kessler who having no clue as to Alex’s origins resorted to the next best thing and that is using his conduit powers to go back in time and both strengthening his younger self cole and warning him of the beast that would bring the end of world known as alex mercer
Honestly, until we saw the Beast, that was a very popular theory as to what The Beast was.
@@daltonthornton5546ngl seeing Cole and James working together would be cool to see.
Alex: Fought an opponent with similar abilities and lost
Cole: Fought the superior version of himself and won
Well, neither characters really have a continuation to their stories, but there IS reason to believe Alex let himself be consumed.
This is cap it is common knowledge that prototype writers for the second game drop the ball on Alex Murphy's character just to get a cash grab for a black guy as the main character they bitched Alex out in this match Alex can summon hordes of zombie infected giant kiju why he chose not to me even though he chose to use them on James Heller is ridiculous cuz if they were in a death battle I would use the last fight with James where Alex Mercer through everything I was the super intelligent virus and had already absorbed countless other intelligent people I would have worn down this individual with the growing army of my infected avenue and then when his defenses were at his lowest send one or two of my evolve generals to try and absorbed him then if that successful worked absorbed his power from them or if that failed keep sending down zombie and then go in my self 😭 it's like you writers don't know how to consciously use this character powers if you were to say that col could absorb bio electric energy from his hords of zombie I would go to say when u killed any character in game you could not absorb them but when there alive or on the verge of death hoe about in stead of picking a script out the trash we scale these characters right 👍👍👍😅
@@coreyclark20you lost me at "cash grab for a black guy" it is NOT that deep 💀
@@KingMasqyeah same
@@KingMasq cry about it.
Gonna be honest this feels like one big boss battle for both characters in some kind of crossover dlc for infamous and I love it
The first thing I thought when I saw this match up is how Cole has to constantly fight people with weird virus powers, but Alex has never dealt with anything like Cole before.
When did cole ever fight a virus powered villain? Also even if he had he has never fought someone even remotely similiar to alex. Alex can regenerate from almost anything, can make a wide variety of weapons from his own body, can absorb people and their memories and go on to become a perfect duplicate of said person. Cole has never fought someone like alex and vice versa
Cole can beat a guy that can nuke cities to dust. So if Alex gets beat bad enough, he'll have to absorb someone@@gbishop1774
@@gbishop1774Cole fought Sasha in Infamous 1, who had mind controlling powers that were spread through a black goo liquid. In other words, her powers were pretty much a virus.
@@Sparlis sashas mind control and the blacklight virus are totally different. Cole could not heal a person Who was infected by a ray field plague which Is radiation poisoning from the ray field energy. Meanwhile the blacklight virus turns a normal human into An infected And it evolves into a building sized monster like how we saw in the beggining of prototype 2. Also, death battle literally did not mention anything about the beast getting hit by a 50 kiloton nuke which did far more damage than anything cole has ever done to him, cole even comfirmed himself that the beast Is dead. And they didn't even talk about alex's ability to adapt to almost any situation, like how he was First exposes ti bloodtox which was said to be a counter to the blacklight virus But alex was later immune to it. And death battle saying that alex had to beat his oponents to his level in order to consume them, coles bio leech literally works the exact same. Also they Got alex's consumption wrong because he consumes poeple by turning their body into biomass before he consumes them so even if cole Got alex off of him, a chunk of his body would still be consumed.
@@Mcmrw-kx2el you described perfectly the same thing that was the beast in the second game, and cole managed to deal with him on same level of power after he recovered all of it again
I wonder what the movie that cole had after he defeated alex was like:
Probably something like:
"I don't know what i expected, this "mercer" guy wasn't like any conduit i've ever faced before. The guy was nuts.
But the thing about any of these crazed bastards is this: I will always do what it takes to protect my loved ones."
Or to imagine the evil Cole version:
"Thought after the First Sons, after Bertrand, after the Beast, that I'd seen the worst Conduits this world had to offer. But this Mercer guy was on a whole other level. How many freaks as powerful as him are still kicking around?
Doesn't matter. Whatever hole they're spawning from, I'll teach them to stay there. This world is mine."
I love your version alot my guy@@sonokawaray
Alex should have won here though, DB lazing as always.
I don't think that this comment was a "Who should have won comment", However I respect you opinion anyways. and I hope you have a nice day. @@xxprototypexx5056
@@swaglevi4315 have a nice day
When Cole said "Get ready to feel my MacGrath!" and Alex replied "Then I won't have any Mercer on you!", I knew this was 'bout to be peak fiction.
good puns
Why hello fellow pun enthusiast 😁
Okay that was actually not too bad
Honestly? Those lines were actually pretty good.
Truly two of the protagonists of all time.
I can't say I ever say I grew up with these characters, but to those who did, I'm so happy for you now that this finally happened.
Oh believe me. It was nuts to see both gameplay trailers side by side as a 2009 teen. Especially on the same gaming magazine disc. Mind blowing stuff.
When I was a child and at the beginning of the second Infamous game, I was _petrified_ going against The Beast. The game started off in the deep end and had me fight the final boss from the beginning in one of the most intense and destructive opening sequences I ever played. Ever since I learned of Prototype and the extreme violence, chaos, and exceptional music, I wanted these two to fight ever since
Hell, it was a good fight too. I didn’t even know they existed
Back in the day I remember both fandoms just doing crossovers with Prototype and Infamous. It might have just been because they were both Original Superheroes with games released so close to each other or because they had such contrasting tones but we were all obsessed with Cole and Alex meeting each other
@@Broomer52 I did a quick youtube search and found at least 9 videos going from 1 year ago to 15 years ago making comparisons to the two franchises. That's not even getting into all the different forum discussions that popped up because of them
Is it odd this battle felt very nostalgic? The way it was written and the match up subjects, it takes me back to when I was a pre-teen.
I was in my late teens when I finished both inFamous games, and yeah, I agree. The nostalgia hits.
The early or mid 2010s wasn't that long ago, yet it feels like a completely different era
Same think, i could see my own self but with fifteen years
Bro SAME I WAS LITERALLY FRAKING OUT LIKE HOW I WOULD WHEN J WAS LITTLE it fr brought back so many memories i was just excited tbh that they finally covered cole mcgrath was def worth the wait
I think this was intentional, Infamous and prototype came out around the same time and had similar protagonists in a sense, I actually originally confused them
It really is, like a 2000s hero movie. It's super fun!
This battle so f****** cool. It made my 11 year old self actually cry at how beautiful this was
Gandalf VS jafar (The Lord of The Rings VS Disney)
The thing VS Robotman (Marvel VS DC)
Honestly I was expecting Mercer to win based on Regeneration alone, I didn't even consider the neuro-electricity draining aspect. Great episode!
Mercer stomps, Alex is faster stronger had better regen etc
I can see it going either way, but I do feel Alex should of had a slight edge in a couple regards. One - pack hunters and biobombs. Heller is capable of it, and I do believe Alex is as well, can't quite recall. Second - Adaptability. Coles powers require electricity, and lots of it, but he doesn't generate as much as he can control and manipulate, I don't think. Been years since I beat the infamous games. Mercer has a vaguely similar limitation, potentially. But the issue is the speed of draining. They were in a city scape where Alex could find hundreds of victims to consume within seconds, whereas Cole would have to drain broken machines or downed power lines, which is shown in the games to take him longer. That's not, however, taking into account that Alex needs /biomass/, not human flesh. Plant life, rodents, insects all count, but so does one of Coles arms, which he could hypothetically heal, providing Alex a neverending source in the battle. Third - DNA. Coles DNA is changed, not human standard, but that gives Alex an edge. He duplicates someone on the genetic level... Meaning that he should be capable of the same feats as Cole's once he gets enough of his DNA.
Tldr:Alex had access to more 'fuel', a few powers he didn't end up using, and can duplicate Cole's DNA based powers. Sidenote: I could be massively miss remembering things
@@frozenpizza5242That's still just Cole dude. It wouldn't matter lol
@@adrianstrider4960
I remember for the particularly brutal missions in the Infamous games, I would always shoot a telephone pole and reabsorb the electricity at a bonus. The conversion rate between usage and drainage were quite strange.
I'll argue that the RFI chargers during the beast boss fight prove that he is capable of drawing quickly, the energy grid charging RFI would just arc the energy to Cole.
Biomass would still be quite plentiful in comparison, but in a large city, energy isn't so far off kilter.
Honestly im just mad they didn't give mercer the bio bomb, tendrils that heller has and summoning monster atleast they gave him that cool armor skin from prototype 2 though
Edit:oh yeah and that move where he blast a kamekameha tendrils and ground spike
10 years in the making, and somehow the wait was worth it. If you weren’t in one on these series’ fandoms, you cannot comprehend how badly we all wanted this fight. And I gotta say, I am very happy with the outcome (and winner).
Microsoft could revive it since they bought activision, could even throw crackdown in the world with it or in a remake if they wanted to. If Xbox brought it back it could make Sony bring back Infamous which is a win-win situation for fans
@@wackywinston1777it kinda sucks to say but if these games were to come back it would probably be remakes but i really really want remasters for these games but companies choose remakes over remasters nowadays
@@char1363damn I would still play the hell out of an Infamous remake. Especially if they got the same tone as the original. It completely nailed that 2000’s comic book feel
@@wackywinston1777infamous isn’t coming back super punch moved on …
Just makes me mad that we were supposed to get this 10 YEARS AGO!
"If you won't give me your power, then I'll just take it."
"Good idea."
*It was at this moment that Alex realized... he fucked up*
That line was bad@ss but not technically accurate. Since Cole can't take powers from bio leech. Just bio electricity from the person. Then again bio electricity does power the body so technically it is taking his "power". So maybe it does work.
@@GreatpowercomesGreatResponsibi You are looking way too much into that line mate.
If only Alex kept his mouth shut he might’ve not given Cole any ideas
@@stellleo If he hasn't given him the idea Cole probably just would have vaporized him with a nuke level lightning bolt while simultaneously fully healing himself, it's honestly almost a mismatch
i mean wouldn't that technically mean cole kinda infected himself? meaning over time alex could just come back
Cole’s victory is all the more satisfying seeing how he literally saved humanity from a total parasite…
He should have lost though
@@xxprototypexx5056 Ehhh, not really. Cole has better feats and a more versatile power, plus biolectric drain is practically a hard counter to Mercer. Not to mention the main villain of the Infamous series wiped entire cities in single attacks and Cole just tanked his attacks and eventually overpowered him.
@@EnbyOccultist no he doesn't, not even close.
Cole's greatest speed feat was dodging a single radiowave from David, which isn't enough to say he's light speed since it's not consistently done. Mercer dodged the tendrils of the Supreme hunter, which created a sonic boom and even outpaced it. Mercer consistently dodged this over and over again, making him massively hypersonic.
Cole had his bones crushed by the beast holding him tightly in their first fight(a being who's only strength feat was throwing a chunk of a building sized statue, Mercer and Heller could tank hits from Elizabeth and Goliath, beings who could oneshot tanks and destroy buildings.
Cole doesn't even really have any proper strength feats outside of his kinetic pulse. even with kinetic pulse he could only lift cars. Mercer could throw tanks and apcs around with one hand like it were a beach ball.
They claimed Cole Cole tank a raysphere blast, which isn't even a feat since conduits are guaranteed to survive a raysphere blast, and it did no where near as much damage as the 75 kiloton nuke in P1. Near the very end of P2, Alex was at the lvl where he could tank that nuke direct hit. Even the beast doesn't have as much durability since it was obliterated by a 51 kiloton nuke.
"Bioleech is a hard counter to mercer" No, no it isn't. DBs argument on that stems on regular human biology and not virology. Mercer is the blacklight virus itself, virus don't have metabolic processes to produce energy to be drained. It's the reason why viruses aren't even considered alive IRL.
don't believe DB just because they said so, they've been proven wrong over and over by their own logic. Wonder Woman vs Thor is a great example of that.
@@EnbyOccultist also, no, Cole's power isn't more versatile. Not even close. At ranged yes, but everywhere else, hell no.
Cole's main specializes in loud ranged combat and sometimes sneaking out of enemy sight.
Mercers power is still great in ranged combat, his shapeshifting abilities allow him to sneak around even in plain sight, and his assimilation abilities allow him to better his own skills and intellect as well as strength and speed. It even allows him to detect sleeper personnel and other targets he's after, which is how he knows exactly who the web of intrigue targets are and what they look like.
@@xxprototypexx5056dude, did you even watch the fight
ELECTRO VS CARNAGE IS GONNA BE SICK!!!!
Spoiler Alert: The Spiderman Villain wins
It's the evil one
I don't know anything about electroguy, but I'm pretty confident Mercer is nigh unbeatable.
you're gonna be disappointed@@BenjaminRegen
Electro won
It should also be noted the "good" Cole, grew his powers to restore and conserve his energy so it's not even guaranteed that Alex could outlast him entirely either. That's not even considering his ability to absorb electricity from nearly everything.
Alex doesn't get fatigued like cole does. I don' t even think i'v seen him sleep
@@michellegibbs2401he doesn’t get fatigued, the only thing low biomass does is decrease his healing factor speeds but it’s still just as potent
Losing biomass also cuts off some off Alex’s more outwardly destructive powers and he has to keep consuming to keep healing. So while doesn’t get tired in the normal sense he can be worn down.
@@robrockstar9648 true although it’s mainly devastator attack which Death Battle only utilized Alex’s first normal devastator and no other ones like Graveyard spikes of Critical Mass Dev which would’ve seriously hurt Cole if hit and bypass his shields since his shields can only block bullets, not rockets or anything else of the sort, PLUS Alex has consumed people already GOING OVER his maximum biomass capacity so god knows how long it would take to wear him down since he can EASILY create infected like GOLIATHS which tower over anything and everything Alex has ever faced in Prototype 1 AND they can’t even be destroyed by conventional weaponry which is why only Heller could stop them, so a SINGLE Goliath could’ve easily wiped Manhattan off the map itself
Cole only gets fatigued from lack of electricity if there's electricity around he can recharge instantly
I have how Wiz said "Let's end this debate once and for all" like he used to say before the fight would start. I love how they wanted to make this feel like an old script they had just slept on doing for over a decade.
That was a nice detail
That's right Boomstick being said as well which is especially old of a line. We got it once somewhat recently so it here is just even more fitting
I think we need the "FIGHT" announcement too imo
I wonder why they never went with it. These games were popular back in the day. I’d love to see a new infamous. Second son was actually pretty good
It would have been cool if they said "I'm Wizard and he's Boomstick" instead of "He's Wiz and I'm Boomstick".
I just realized this this matchup is essentially an edgier version of Spider-Man vs Venom.
More akin to edgier Spiderman with electric powers vs less homicidally insane Carnage.
@@jonathanjuarez5544
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So... Miles vs Venom?
@@christopherearth9714more like electro vs carnage
Or cell vs gohan, Alex has crazy regen and abilities, and Cole got that raw power to vaporize him
Activated conduits are immune to diseases, which is why the plaque never affected Cole, so the blacklight virus would most likely have no effect on him.
Also true. This fight was bound to end badly for Mercer
Not immune to disease, immune to The Rayfield Plague. The Plague was caused by the same energy that empowered The Conduits so any awakened Conduit was immune to it. That was the whole point of The Beast's rampage in InFamous 2. To force human evolution by empowering all Conduits on earth at the expense of the other 99% of the world's population.
@@WeaponXSigma Think it would have been different if we saw mercer abusing his ability consume normal people to regenerate though. That was a really big thing to take into account for the fighting was him eating enemies as the battle went on. If Mercer had kept running off to regenerate and charge by eating humans in the area I think he'd have stood a better chance all things considered. It's hard to think about who would win in this fight since it would come down to who ran out of energy sources first.
Mercer is no fool either. If he saw cole charging off the power grid he'd pull back and just start breaking the grid left, right, and center. TL:DR I feel like due to the intelligence of both sides and their separate regeneration capabilities a change in arena and resources would greatly shift how this fight would go. This type of fight would potentially go on for WEEKS if not months.
It doesn't need to in order to absorb him.
Alex's virus is like trying to infect a fire to become poisonous. As long as Cole's abilities were still active, it'll burn off anything Mercer threw at him.
Both of these games were a blast to play, and I'm glad you guys brought us along on this trip down memory lane. I wonder if there are any more scripts that have been put in cold storage until the world needed them most... LIKE SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG!
One thing I really appreciate about most fights is how close it seems - Each character gets to show off and shine, making you realize what each person's advantages are as the fight goes on, and making you wonder how the other is going to get out of it, or at least try to, and even when it does simply come down to who can hit the hardest, run the fastest, take the most tons of TNT to the face or whatever, it still feels like a fairly even fight where they really have to push the limits of what they can do
Right, they never discount any character's raw skills or abilities even if the odds are impossible. It's a lot more entertaining than simply saying "He stands no chance." It's the same logic that makes a lot of Superhero movies work, making the fight evenly fought just shows that they are real fans of both characters regardless of who ends up on top.
Even the stomps are framed not to make one character look like a chump; the exception being Aquaman because that was the joke
It wasn't fairly even, they literally highballed Cole and lowballed mercer
I love Cole MacGrath. Definitely my favorite character of all time.
Same man same
15:11 to 15:24 is so damn perfect for me.
Everything to Mercer trying to convince Cole that humans are just beneath them and they could rule over them ( Classic Villain right there ) and Cole just outright mocked him for saying so.
Easy Top 10 favorite Death Battles for me from that moment alone.
Facts
"The only vermin i see here is you" my guy Cole being a true hero no matter the situation
Almost as good as the Iron Man comeback for me
Hero Cole isnt about that life.😎
That scene feels very Star-Wars
I WAS CONVINCED AFTER STATS THAT COLE WAS GONNA LOSE. This is a goated death battle and early 2000s kid’s dream battle.
Same bro I was rooting for Cole saw Alex’s stats and was like no way Cole can win. Let’s go!
Longtime Infamous fangirl personally and even I was thinking the same
Thought Alex's healing and arena control were gonna get him the win but I had never been so happy to have been wrong in a while with this show ♡
I thought these games were more of something 90s babies played but good to know the later generation was able to appreciate it.
@lordmonarch2995 well they weren't even games in the 90s. More like what Teens played in '09
@@Tonycommisso14I was rooting for Cole until I seen it was the good version
Man I’m just happy to see Alex Mercer being a badass again after all these years 🥲
ikr 😭 what an amazing Game and an amazing Character, we really need a third part
Hopefully if this DB is super successful we'll get a Delsin Rowe vs James Heller. That'd be fun to see
I'd put up a second mortgage on my house if it meant I had to pay to see that
Both of them have better opponents.
Delsin can just blitz Heller, Delsin has some FTL feats meanwhile Heller is at best massively hypersonic
@@megamagner618 yes but hellers durability and adaptability are leagues better than mercer, Ontop of that hellers body is a hybrid of the virus and heller meaning that his body is less likely to be overtaxed like Mercers was
Not saying it would be a one sided fight but speed isn’t everything and heller has ways to restrain faster opponents
Delsin should be fought Korra From Avatar series
Alex: YOU DON’T WANT TO GIVE ME YOUR POWER?!? FINE! I’LL JUST TAKE IT!
Cole: Taking powers, huh? Thanks for the tip.
EWWW, I STEPPED IN LOSER
bro dont
Tip, huh? Thanks for the time.
Now that you mentioned it i'm wondering if delsin could take Alex's power? Since he's a conduit power sponge
@@FadedFlash7Doesn't work that way. Delsin needs to come in direct contact to a Prime Conduit to get new powers. Alex powers are a result of the Blacklight Virus, so Delsin wouldn't get them.
Not going to lie, but Cole shutting down Alex's speech of a 'better world' bull crap is oddly satisfying.
Goes to show how well written the character arc is for Cole, while Alex still stuck in the same place he always did because he let the choices of the few taint his world view on humanity.
While Cole is always changing, Alex never seems to change. Ironic knowing Alex has power over evolution.
Alex had his mind molded by the diagnosed narcissistic psychopath that was Dr. Mercer. He was an almost exact clone of the man so he might have been doomed from the start. Dr. Mercer was a bad man and Alex was molded after him with even less real world experience. He was probably never going to grow
True
This comment needs to be higher up
There's also the fact that Cole has crossed paths with quite a few megalomaniacal types who are convinced they know best for everyone and try to impose their worldview through violent means. Makes sense that when he heard the same spiel coming out of Alex's mouth, he was having none of it.
when cole said "i may be infamous but you are just a prototype compared to me" 🔥🔥🔥
Peak fiction
✍️ 🔥 🔥 🔥
Then he said "It's Coleing time" and that was just so hype
Ok I just watched it twice and I didn't hear anything resembling that
Bars
Thank you for reviving these franchises, if only for 20 minutes.
I had a feeling this was gonna go hard, but THIS hard? Like, seriously, this was so utterly awesome in every conceivable way. The writing, the action, the line deliveries. What is up with this season being so fire?
Seasons 9&10 of DB have been mostly hits and (arguably) no misses
@@idkibk7 I'd argue that season 9 definitely had some lackluster episodes, but nothing quite as bad as the other seasons
@@ThenewTchannel fr, the one i'd call a miss is Jason vs Micheal and it isn't even bad, just average
@@Toximati0n I didn't care too much for Boba vs Predator, Deku vs Asta, or the finale either, but those are all at least mid, better than some of the actually bad episodes we had in season 8 for sure
Makes me wonder why they complained about the script so much, and why they didn't make the episode in the first place
In retrospect, maybe it’s not so bad it took them this long to make this episode, they had the time to develop and improve animations a ton.
Better late than never.
Also back in 2013, they weren't all that great at researching like they are now. Some people would disagree that they are good now, but they do actual math while in the past they just went "eh, they could probably do this and win" most of the time.
And yet they still didn't bother using the Sonic booms, or when Alex Mercer does his speed that exceeds the tank rounds, which are projectiles moving at supersonic speeds, and death battle gave no Feats whatsoever to Cole in terms of speed. And they didn't bother making a tornado, as Alex Mercer runs circles around his opponent who is unable to perceive him. But that just takes all the fun out of the battle doesn't it
Eddit: Cole didn't get a Speed-Feat, but that was for routing electricity hisun and routing electricity is not the same as moving from point A to point B in reaction to a weapon firing at you.
@@Kjf365 Nowadays, the question fans ask isn't "Should this character have won?" and more "How faithfully would they portray the characters?"
2012....
For many years, we have waited. And now that this episode has come out, it has become the most EPIC AND BADASS EPISODE OF THE SEASON!!!
2009 nostalgia be peaking!
Agreed, I've wanted this fight long before I heard of death battle and immediately after playing both games. And again, everything I put on one of their games again
Billcord >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@@Kronensegler211billcord is miles clear
Realizing 2009 was that many years ago made me collapse on the floor with the Super Mario Dry Bones sound effect
Peter pan.
Alex: YOU DONT WANT TO GIVE ME YOUR POWER, FINE ILL JUST TAKE IT
Cole: pulls out uno reverse
Alex: sh**
Cole: Good Idea!
Cole: Take it, huh? Thanks for the idea, parasite!
This was by far the sickest deathbattle put out. Major props to the animation team for crushing the assignment!
What I love about this fight in particular is the dynamic between the two. Alex is very clearly the antagonistic, powerful force of the fight and I love Cole having to use his entire arsenal to overcome the monstrous Blacklight virus.
Makes this one stand out amongst a lot of other fights.
I was actually worried on having fights voted on by fans, as I thought there wouldn’t be enough production time to make them work. But I am truly amazed, this and Bill vs Discord were incredible!
Oh and, [InHuman] is a fantastic track. It’s been stuck in my head since the first time I listened to it, and it goes so well with the action on screen.
Well done, everyone!
Even back in the day, I really wanted these two games to collaborate. This fight was absolutely amazing!
I couldn't agree more 💯👍
Even if we assume that Cole’s force field doesn’t literally convert matter into energy, since that has never been proven to actually be possible, at the very least it can be reasonably assumed that it disassembles matter to the atomic level since the Ray Field and the Beast can do the same thing. This would involve breaking both intermolecular and intramolecular chemical bonds, allowing Cole to absorb the chemical energy released as a result of the bond breakage and become even stronger. Meanwhile, since Alex can only regenerate from molecular DNA, he would be completely unable to regenerate from the disassembled atoms. I find it funny that one of Cole’s defensive abilities alone could instantly nullify Alex’s healing factor and kill him.
Expect it couldn't, since he no longer has that ability, needing to replace it with an ice version that doesn't convert anything into energy at all.
@@xxprototypexx5056 Which doesn’t matter because he’s still powerful enough to do it and nothing suggests he doesn’t know how to do it as he literally relearned his powers and more.
@skeety7883 no he isn't, if he was then he wouldn't have had to replace it with an ice version to begin with.
He lost many of his powers after the first fight with the beast, powers such as karmic overload, grind drain and gigawatt blades never came back.
@@xxprototypexx5056 🤦♂️ He literally relearned all of his powers, it’s not that hard to understand.
I guess Alex just doesn’t get a vast majority of his abilities then since he never uses them in the second game and Heller never gets any of them after absorbing Alex 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️.
@@skeety7883 Cole did not relearn all of his powers, he permanently lost grind draining, gigawatt blades and karmic overload. And had to replace some with ice variants to get it back. Your being disingenuous.
I was surprised by the ending. Electro vs Carnage was sick
Or Kevin levin Vs generator Rex
@@WorinEcca3086 Dude..... THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME FIGHT.
@@farenhaid13421 totally one sided, but yeah
@@justincummings8557 Considering next episode, these guys don't mind one-sided stomps.
Electro smash
THE 3D TEAM HAS BEEN KILLING IT DUDE
Torian was the best animator they ever had....... the quality has not improved since........
@@dio2076What fights did Torian do?
Bro calm down your overacting@@dio2076
@@dio2076ok and? Torrian is an amazing animator but you can't just discredit the 3d team just because they're not torrian
We've been getting really good 3d fights lately, like Sauron vs Lich King, Dragonborn vs Chosen Undead, Vader vs Obito and this fight
@@justsomeguy6336 all the good ones(the ones that are animated in Monty's style)
The animations now are mostly outsourced garbage.
As a huge fan of both games, you guys did not disappoint. Regardless of who won, I'm just happy this Death Battle even happened. And this fight was AWESOME, by the way.
I remember commenting for this exact video way back when, and now we finally got it. Thank you Death Battle for brining me back to my childhood and letting me live it out. You guys are awesome and this video was awesome.
I love how this fight turned into a classic Good VS Evil fight between a hero and a villain. Sorry, I just love cheesey tropes like that 😅
Ironically cole could be good or evil while mercer is a hero turned villian
So heroes fighting villains is cheesy now?
@@ZLunas I don’t think so, but you never know with comments sections these days
@@TheBowTizzle True, that CinemaSins style of criticism where seemingly every commonly used storytelling tool is automatically a writing flaw, regardless of how it's used in context, seems to be quite popular in TH-cam comment sections
@@ZLunas Been a long time since I've heard of that channel. That still alive? I remember a lot of people getting annoyed at them for becoming nitpicky just to find something to consider a sin in movies.
This fight was... just about perfect. Especially if you were a fan of inFamous or [PROTOTYPE]. The rivalry goes full circle, and the fight scene really felt like a mortal struggle between both combatants. I may not have played either of these games, but I must admit that was really epic. What a satisfying conclusion to such a long, heated video game rivalry.
I remember when Yahtzee/Zero Punctuation asked the companies to duel each other by drawing the other company’s character in women’s lingerie and Infamous won the challenge
@@karmicrespite5737 And Infamous wins... again. In a Death Battle, no less.
@@kainingyao7873 And won overall since they at least got one more sequel and a dlc meaning they surived till the next gen console.
Not really. Their facts and reasoning sucked ass.
Alex should have won though.
This would have been a crazy death battle 10 years ago
It's a crazy one now too though!
Tbh kinda glad it didnt come out back then, because the fight wouldn’t have been as beautiful
@@idkibk7 True It would have been all 2d sprite animation, not against it of course, but a full 3d with debries and destruction? yes please!
@@farenhaid13421their sprite fights have definitely improved however, just look at Rogue vs Wonder Woman compared to Goku Black vs Reverse Flash (my personal favorite DB)
microsoft just got activision, so people are talking about prototype again.
I wont lie the presentation of this deathbattle definitely paints Cole as a Hero, and thus protagonist energy. Its no wonder he won while it also feels... correct.
Ive never played either game series but this sort of thing did keep me engaged. Especially at the end where it seemed like Cole was going to get absorbed, only for his own power to surge and just defy the darkness.
15:54 *(YYYEEEAAAHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)*
Technically it's the official story. They made a part 3 that confirms that's the path he took.
It's not correct though, DB got so many details wrong and even gave him evil abilities such as arc lightning when they said they were only using good Cole.
Don't believe them for even a second
@@xxprototypexx5056 Lol just say you’re coping hard 😂
@@skeety7883 yeah, cuz I'm coping over a fake video created by incompetent people proven to be wrong over and over right?
Your talking like a child. Treating conversations like they are competitions.
12:48 Battle starts here
Also, I like how Wiz says "Let's end this debate once and for all!" instead of "And we've run the data through all possibilities!" pointing out further how, the script for this episode was from all the way back in 2013.
Honestly, it fits way more to. In all of the Death Battles, this is one of the most debated over the years. A decade's wait was worth it.
@titansmashproductions5001 Agreed
They hit it real good with this episode!😁
Yeah but if only they also played that invader wrestling theme too 😔😔
No doubt guys to me was one of the most ICONIC fight i EVER seen on this channel
Thanks guys for bring us Alex Mercer from Prototype i freaking love this character
As always Death Battle never disapointed
"Even though Cole is a hero he gave no mercy for Mercer" this would of been a nice ending too
I like this battle. I also like how united the community is on this one.
Initially, I thought that Alex would win, simply because he is a literal nightmare of a bioweapon that had to be killed by a better version of the virus than himself to be taken out in the end. But in the end, seeing just how many powers Cole actually had, and exactly what he could do with them.... yeah, i can see why the battle concluded like this. I don't think I mind this ending.
thank you for finally making it.
Alex should have won though, DB made facts up and based things on pure theories such as Coles shield turning bullets into energy when the strategy guide states it's only converting the kinetic energy of the round into energy and not the round itself.
@@xxprototypexx5056no he loses death battle did alright with analysis but end of the day Cole just vaporizes Alex with ease
@@spinozilla2421 @spinozilla2421 no he doesn't, even by their own logic he doesn't lose.
They claimed Cole was resistant to blacklight, but they never once said that he was immune. Immune means it won't effect him at all, whereas resistant means he's less effected by it but will still eventually succumb to it.
By their own logic, the virus should still end up eventually killing or turning Cole.
And no, Cole cannot vaporize anything. That was an entirely new myth made by DB.
They claimed that cole disintegrated the beast at the atomic lvl when he used the RFI, which takes rayfield radiation away(aka what the beast was made of).
Even if he could disintegrate, that's not a killing blow like you think it is. Alex is the blacklight virus itself. So long as the virus exists, he will always exist. He spread himself across New York as well as everywhere he's ever been. Which is why he states at the end of the 2nd game that he has moved beyond life and death.
He's effectively unkillable.
@@spinozilla2421 no they didn't, they are wrong even by their own logic.
They claimed Cole was resistant to blacklight, but they never said he was immune. Immune means he wouldn't be affected at all whereas resistance means it's less effective, but will still succumb.
By their own logic, the virus should still end up killing or turning Cole.
@@xxprototypexx5056 nope that’s just mean Cole can fight off the virus silly
I'm so happy to see these two on DB! InFamous is an underrated series especially to me, so I'm glad he got some screentime on this show!
As a player of 2 of the 5 games, they are great.
I love how it feels like cole is just in one hell of a boss battle. And with the lyrics like "its just me" really emphasise this
It's crazy that this video game rivalry goes back as far as *_15 WHOLE YEARS AGO_*
Dude who ever picks your music for these fights needs an effing raise man…perfection !!!
Makes the fight million times better
Most death battle music is made by Brandon Yates and therewolf media. They also make fan commission tracks if you’re interested in other songs they’ve done.
@@malikjackson9828 thanks a ton 🤘🏽
As a huge infamous nerd, I didn’t think Cole had chance to be honest! I thought Delsin could, considering he eventually learned to manipulate multiple element types, but didn’t really break it down to the molecular level like you guys did! What an episode. Cole is one cold MF.
As also a infamous nerd, same
Also as Infamous nerd, yeah
Also as an infamous nerd, Absolutely
Infamous nerd here,Hell Yeah!
In this group and yes, pleasantly surprised.
There’s always something satisfying to me about a true good guy managing to overpower a normally unstoppable villain.
There always would be someone more powerful or more versatile.
@@DoubleJ-jt1ty He is by the second game.
@@DoubleJ-jt1ty Whether or not it's relateable doesn't change if its evil or not. Attempting a genocide can't ever really be considered much else than evil.
@@DoubleJ-jt1tySo you're a misanthrope?
I love the death battles that are simply Hero vs Villain. Especially when the hero comes out on top
At the end of the day we can all agree
That both series deserve another entry into the franchise
Yes I want Alex back in prototype
Agreed, these series ended far too soon
We need something to replaxe prototype 2
@@thelonecourier3439 I'm still absolutely sure that the end of Prototype 2 was a play of Alex.
Just thinking about it, we never learned why Alex would restart the virus after Prototype 1 was all about containing it. As a character he never was power hungry or downright evil (at least in the game narrative). But then he starts the 2nd spreading, places his pawns, infects the main character for no apparent reason, and abducts his family to have a big standoff on a tower. Can anyone really say here that this didn't feel orchestrated? I wouldn't wonder when Alex just a few seconds after getting killed was growing back in some cocoon some miles away somehow having accomplished his goal, whatever it was.
Also, regarding a 3rd part, we never actually learned what happened to Pariah (son of Elizabeth Greene), who was told to be the perfect avatar of the virus in this whole story.
There's just so much left open!
this 1000%
⚖⚖⚖ SCALES ⚖⚖⚖
Makes sense
Chat is this
Glad it's not the recycling
For all who have no idea:
This pinned message is the symbol that represents this matchup in GF stylised cipher wheel that many fans have caught in blink and you miss it moment from trailer for Season 10.
Later same wheel was seen in track art for Discord vs Bill halfway through the season and confirmed which matchup have happened.
Scales for this one make sense more than recycle, they're both are in borders between good and evil. Cole leaning more into it while with Alex it's more of a hero living long enough till he becomes villain.
@@maniacalmalamar8332Yeah since Goku VS Superman (2023) took that one but yeah, I had a feeling that this was the Scales given how Morality plays a part in both Cole’s and Alex’s stories, well more so for Cole given that he has to deal with his Good and Bad Karma in inFAMOUS.
This fight had me on the edge of my seat! I was honestly worried that Cole might lose, but I'm so glad I was wrong. My boy's the GOAT.
Lol right. I thought he should lose but I'm so team Cole actually lol😊
Bro just looking at this matchup, I thought Cole would lose too. In fact, because they used good Cole, I was so sure he would lose that I wished that they had used beast Cole instead. At least that way, even if he still lost, the fight would be much closer. Needless to say, I’m pleasantly surprised and I can confidently say that my favorite version of Cole, beast Cole, would stomp Alex no problem.
@VJ2099 When they mentioned Alex's regeneration and how he can infect others I thought he had it in the bag. Then when Cole was winning at the beginning I was like, "Nooo. Whoever wins at the beginning loses." But I'm so glad they proved us wrong.
@@VJ2099 Yeah I don't know that much about Prototype, but I was assuming good Cole would lose and evil Cole would win, I was hoping they would use Cole's full powerset, but oh well glad he won regardless
Thank you death battle I felt like i was going crazy 10 years ago for thinking Cole had even a chance of winning.
Both of these games were big parts of growing up for me and I wanted a death battle ever since I've played them, I didn't think Cole stood a chance but I still really wanted him to win, and to have the fight of my dreams and to have Cole win in a way that made perfect sense, absolutely phenomenal
He never had a chance of winning, the writer for prototype 2 himself basically debunked them.
One of the biggest showdowns us fans have asked for in Death Battle for a while, and it did not disappoint!
omfg thank you guys so much for making this me and my buddy have been arguing about this since these games came out and I always was of the opinion that Cole would be the one more likely to win. All the years of being called an idiot are finally behind me 😂
Cole wouldn't win though, DB messed a bunch of things in this video up.
Seriously. Alex should have won. He processed Elizabeths billion yo intellect in just 25 seconds, making him millions of times FTL. Cole shouldn't even be able to touch him
This is legit the first battle I've ever cheered for when the winner takes the W. Good Cole ftw.
Wanted this battle for over a literal decade, and it lived up to the hype.
I loved this. These games were my top favorite games as a kid, the animation, voice actors, and the fight itself make this my favorite episode yet
“So much power and yet you waste it on these vermin, you and I can change this world for the better" The only vermin I see here is you" very glorious lines
InFamous and Prototype are now truly unforgettable
Hopefully they return 🙏😔
Mercer for Mortal Kombat?
I actually thought Alex would win, but I wanted Cole to win after learning both of their stories. So I'm pleased.
Probably the most natural conflict in a Death Battle
man this death battle brought me back, even tho i wasnt there when infamous released, i played the living hell out of it, and still do on occasions today, i hope they bring back these two kickass games again!