@@bobbyhall7472 died because the "worlds best climber" went solo on everest. Guess you should really listen to sherpas who are experienced compared to this random white dude
We have. There will always be two sides to a story. Sometimes nobody’s wrong nobody’s right. It’s based on perception. He thought he was safe going without a rope. The sherpas didn’t like it. They like to be relied on AND do have some responsibility towards their “clients”. And the ice falling was ultimately an accident. All in all it was their clashing attitude that caused the rift. Sadly this climber ended up paying the ultimate price.
@@christheking1 Sherpas do what they do for a living... When they see western climbers doing this for fun or for their egos, and doing a different route, without their help without oxygen etc, its like saying oh look we do this with no issues and you guys complain all the time and say that this is hard..... they are exposing the Sherpas work in the mountain, I dont really think the Sherpas care if the solo westerns die on their own... They care about their work and income source.... Its like you know a trick that nobody else knows....and you make profit of it, but then all of a sudden you start seeing other people trying and doing the same thing exposing your special trick to the world....You are gonna be slightly mad at those people for sure....
@@qbw8834 you're kidding yourself. They literally were interfering with their work and then called them slaves... It's no surprise they almost got beaten up.
poor Ueli. Hated how the media tried to blame Ueli for the incident and accused him of being racist or whatever when he made angry comments about sherpas when still in shock!!!!
Where can I find a reliable source of information about this ? So far all I have is a fairly famous Swiss mountaineer having heated words with the local citizenry and nearly getting his head handed to him.
@@BrownSugarBaby1992 what do you mean they decide if they live or die? they did unassisted climbs they did not employ sherpas... just got in each other's way
Interviewer: "Everest is not an interesting climb". Well.. take a new route.. there are harder ways.. don't use any ready existing ropes and ladders.. Then make that comment.
i also had bad sherpa experience. don't believe a second they are those smiling and peacefull dudes. in front of all others or cameras, the best guys on earth - deal made, got even a bonus before we started - once alone with them, even threatened to be let alone. question on all commenators: is your fucking chair comfortable, or do you speak from your fucking own experience?
Long story short it was a shakedown. Everest is a business...the sherpas run their ropes and ladders and make it impossible for you not to use them or interfere with them. They didn't like they were going up without local help and they touched their ropes and they used it as an excuse to attack them... it is what it is. This story has been told a million times and only those with common sense seem to pick up what's not being said out of respect for locals. For whatever reason I dont know why everyone sides with the sherpas. Are there no bad sherpas ?!?! 30-60k American dollars paid to a tour group feeds 20 people for a year in Nepal. Everest is their business. The mountain is not hard to climb. It's more conditioning and people's health at the time of climb.
I'll break it down to you. a) The Sherpa's told them 3 guys (Ueli and 2 others) to not go ahead of them since they would be install ropes and stairs (The route the sherpas use ) and Ueli and 2 others were using the same way before sherpas even after being told not to. Also since someone is above you while doing it, there is a good chance of an accident to happen since ice falls behind and it is really dangerous cus the climb is almost straight. Also how would they touch the ropes if there were none? Didn't you know the ropes and stairs are being installed every year?? What you think they just did that once and left it for the coming years? Lol c) The Sherpa's claimed that even after they warning those guys they climbed and one of the sherpa (Simon) got hit with ice on his face and got bruised. Also one of the 3 guys (forgot the name) pointed with ice on the ice hammer of one of the sherpas (again forgot the name prolly simon). Last but not least the one of those 3 guys (forgot the name) said "Machikne" and that's a derogatory slang in Nepali (You can even conform one of the Sherpa's asking to confirm that he knows whats "Machikney" and that guy accepting it and getting slapped, check the fights video you'll find it). And that was the last blow
I've been to E.B.C. IN 2011. The Sherpas and porters are a humble people and i liked them but i was nearly breaking up something when 3 to 4 of these guys began to hit an israeli guy @ Lukla . They gang up on people if they have a dispute .
REPENT BELIEVE Right. There are Sherpas who are bad apples too. The stories are out there. All this one sided Sherpa praising is extremely narrow minded.
@@BrownSugarBaby1992 they didnt use a woman the woman defended 3 people against 50 cowards and complete savages that should be in prison. All this because they were better climbers. I hope you say something as dumb irl to the wrong people so they give you the same treatment, because youre the one who deserve it if you think throwing rocks at 3 people for childish reasons is ok
"NO COMMENT" 🙄REALLY he just Finley told us all after climbing all that time did I really hear him that come out from uli.😨😥 kinda sad this was highly disappointing.🤷♂️ from another alpinest I always loved the mountains even on my worst days.
Please read the Sherpa's side too: In a meeting at Camp II, we had decided that no one would climb until we finished our job. We were aware that many climbers would hike up from Camp II to acclimatize. Fixing ropes is a sensitive and huge task. So, we strictly alerted everyone not to go high up. We were a team consisting of belayers and leaders. In our job, if one of us makes a small mistake, another member can be injured. So, we have to be extra careful. We were at 22,000 feet at around 8 a.m on April 27. We saw that three foreign climbers were climbing up. We were all using the same radio frequency so when we saw them, we asked other Sherpas to stop them because ice can fall from high up. But they didn’t stop. Nobody knew who they were. Someone said they were Russians. When we inquired about them through the radio, we were told that they were Russians and had a permit to climb Lhotse. Even then, we tried to stop them, but they didn’t listen and continued to climb using our ropes. They turned out to be three renowned climbers and guides-Simone Moro, Ueli Steck, and Jonathan Griffith. They told us: We will not disturb you; we will take another route. After their assurance, we allowed them to go ahead. By this time we had reached 23,000 feet. Our goal for the day was to complete the rope fixing up to Camp III and then go 600 feet farther. When the Europeans traversed past Mingma Tenzing, our lead fixer, ice tumbled down and hit one of our crew members, a Sherpa who works for Adventure Consultants. His face had bruises. This hasn’t been revealed yet. (Earlier, we lied to people saying that it was from a slip, but in fact a chunk of ice had struck him.) I don’t know whether they had dislodged the ice intentionally or whether it was just an accident, but pieces of ice were dislodged and that was the main issue. Mingma told us that it was becoming too dangerous to continue. These people climbed up despite our call not to do so. Mingma said we should descend, so we followed his instructions. This message was also delivered to our coordinator Greg Vernovage [the leader of the International Mountain Guides Expedition] at Camp II. Mingma had already anchored the rope and while he was rappelling down, Simone approached him and began the verbal abuse. “How much money do you need?” he asked Mingma. As this was going on, Ueli Steck stormed in and grabbed Mingma’s chest. It was very dangerous to grab someone’s chest in such a high and precarious place. I was 100 yards below him at the time. I was leading on the right side while Karma Sarki was at Mingma’s side. We had already decided to descend because the three were not only getting in our way but were also picking fights. Simone uttered words that were abusive. Ueli also pointed his ice axe toward Mingma. I was scared at the time. We descended wondering why they had defied our warning and why they were keen on getting into a quarrel. We arrived back at Camp II at around 2 p.m. Everyone was aware of what happened on the Lhotse Face because they all had tuned in to the same radio frequency. The overwhelming mood in the camp was that of resentment.
Who do these sherpas think they are to give orders to people who are not their clients. And if ice was dislodged why would it be done on purpose? Just an excuse. I do understand when sherpas get upset or refuse to work in difficult conditions. But they are risking themselves for the money their clients pay them. And they need to focus their anger on themselves and their clients. They have no authority nor they own the mountains to tell non- clients when or where to climb.
@tonymtlwpg i do have a great respect for Sherpa people. However, since everest climbing became a touristic business so non-real climbers can show off in front of friends, this started putting sherpas in real danger. But this does not give authority to sherpas over real climbers who go for free, know how to move around the mountain on their own, and just share camps with them. Modern sherpas need to blame themselves and some of their clients for the risks they decide to undertake. I am sure no real sherpas would have attacked without a reason real mountaineers, who have mutual respect for each other collective they are both elite climbers. Not professional tourists like the ones who crowd on the everest routes. R.I.P. Ueli. R.I.P Alexei Bolotov. Two amazing climbers, and two of the heroes who risked their lifes to try to rescue Iñaki Otxoa de Olza on Annapurna.
The mountain decides who succeeds, fails or dies. Don't ever forget your basic kindness and manners. Your karma is your story - make it a good one. We need each other. Love and Light.
0:50 Dude You do not go to a country Insult and shout abuse at a bunch of early 20 something local lads risking their lives without health insurance or any liability pay for their families if they die who rush their lives daily to help visitors climb and survive Everest
So, a professional climber isnt allowed to climb a UNESCO heritage before the locals as its bad for their business, and if someone swings and ice axe at 7500m at you, you're not allowed to call him "motherfucker"? Thats not Uelis/my problem. To climb Everest you need to pay a tax, its their governments job to make sure those money are wise spent and invested in the health system, plus, those sherpas work for private companies, why arent those companies held accountable for the safety of the sherpas? Why does an amateur climber/visitor with deep pockets has priority over a professional athlete?
@@netdirect2766 the climbers started the brawl by insulting them Of course they are allowed to climb They can even use free speech I meant you shouldn't go somewhere and disrespect those who live there Especially when they risk their lives so others may do this stuff
@@idontcareaboutpcpolitics222 if the climbers did start the brawl, what was it for? Were they just climbing and randomly started insulting the sherpas, or there was a conflict before which led to them insulting? Good. If they are allowed to climb, dont complain about them climbing. Fix your ropes, get paid, and go home safe. Free speach? Simone is on his knees forced to ask for forgivness and hes getting kicked by some savages and you are talking about free speach? Who disrespected them? You think that if youre a sherpa youre automatically a Dalai Lama, or? Their ego made this worse, as they couldnt accept the westerners helped them with the ropes. Risk their lives for 5000€/season while the average salary in Nepal is 70€/month... yeah, tell that to a cop or a firefighter. After all Simone did in Nepal, you, the sherpas, and all who go against him should feel ashamed for pointing fingers. Apart, if this wouldve happened on Mont Blanc and some french dudes wouldve kicked a sherpa for climbing before them, western society wouldve been demonized all over the news. But hey, better prostitute a mountain and allow only the fat-cats to climb it... if you want to climb Everesr/K2 etc... alpine style or gtfo.
thats not what I meant, I'm sure he gets on with the people, but when you're sponsored you're supposed to endorse the product and the sponsor themselves, by openly saying "I don't like being sponsored" for me it seems as if that isn't the best way to show support for those people who practically enable you to do what you love doing. But meh, its ueli, he does what he wants anyway :)
I do not wish to speak ill of the dead but Ueli has an ego that reaches beyond his understanding of cultural constraints. Yes there is a backlash happening amongst sherpas and the exploitation that is happening but you need to remain respectful of everything that is going on. What he said and did is not acceptable - regardless of his frustration at not achieving his goal - remember his goals were personal but that does not make them globally acceptable when others share risk.
@@donniev8181 I am sorry if I offended. If you are asking me if I heard any words personally then no. There were words like 'Motherfucker' used by the climbing group. This is extremely offensive in most cultures but to the Sherpas it's another level. If you know differently I am more than happy to hear your explanation of the incident. Either way it is an extremely disrespectful treatment of local culture and local beliefs.
@@settz61 no i was genuinely asking if you knew that he said something. I with you in that no matter what was said the sherpas reaction is not justified. No one should be physically attacked because of something that was said. Another thing I find peculiar is that he died upon his next visit?
Step up, admit you were wrong, go on. Yes, you are the guest in their country. No matter how much you pay, you play THEIR game. When people go to your country, they play YOUR game. If it was Switzerland, they would have a 5,000 CHF fine for leaving one O2 bottle or scrap of paper on the mountain…
Wait, what? He didn’t want to be a “sponsored climber”? What’s the alternative? Do you get to the summit then money rains down from the sky while a booming voice from above says “good job, dude”? This is what happens when you turn your passion into your profession. Used to be you could do whatever you wanted whenever you wanted but once you go pro, that’s it. There are products to sell and other people’s interests involved. This isn’t a news flash...
It's more nuanced : He didn't like being a sponsored climber, but he knew it was the only way and he fulfilled all his obligations like a good boy. I think that's all he meant and there's nothing wrong with that.
The extention of the permit just another example of government putting profits before their people. Does not mean this guy wasnt completely in the wrong. Rip I saw he fell to his death a few years ago ... watching further - he calls out the game & the sponsorship strangulation by regulation making personal freedoms pigeonholed into an an actual game so I get his side too. Seems like he just didnt do his research and it was a lack of due dligence rather than disregard for the Sherpa lives as well as their quality of life via their livelyhood
if you watch the Reel Rock film about th incident, i think a number of factors are in play. first the guys rocketing up south col with the sherpas fixing line was misguided though they were punished deeply for it. you have to see it through Sherpas eyes , to see these guys though physically unbelievably it must have been a slap in the face for them in a way. I think Uli got the disproportionate blame compared to Moro who lets say is..err... a self admitted hothead. but no winners really here in all this. well worth seeing that film to see footage. they could have been killed (not by the mountain!)
Sherpas are drinking a lot if there is any problem a or argument they are loosing the plot ... and they want fight and are very aggressive .. and if you pay lots of money they are nice and friendly but if you do not pay enough watch your back .. been 4 times in Himalayas .
using other ropes without permission ... risking other lives too .. ignoring others advice ... calling MF in our mother language ... lol .. the sherpa people u meet are people who survives due the tourism i bet you haven't meet any ordinary sherpa ... they are kind and friendly ..
@@pramesh.gurung no proofs for that. Those "poor sherpas" didn't even show a guy being hit by ice as they claim. but there are plenty of proofs of them ganging up on 3 men. just like a bunch cowards
@@user-sw7ln9ro7y so we have to shoot it?? lol sherpa are one of the nicest people around. it gets more than a thing to rile them up. if you are using their rope you gotta pay. you don't go to a country and curse them in their own language.
@@pramesh.gurung so they can get away with any sort of cowardly violence because they are nicest people around? you suggest to take that for granted and also believe that top tier climbers used their rope. without proofs. we also should close our eyes to videos of sherpa violence from that incident and completely ignore worlds most reputable climbers side of the story. seems convenient
@@user-sw7ln9ro7y cowardly violence??? lol a Asian man goes on a white dominant place and insults them in their own language. do you think he would get out of there unharmed? i am not promoting violence but he got spanking for being a egoistic douche. i have seen that video. when they were confronting about the ropes he said was "machikine..." which is ultimate insult in nepali language. It is typical white man syndrome where they think they are above all. Violence was bad i accept that but he is a douche.
@@tormon506 I don't think he needed Sherpas dumbass, he solo'd Annapurna roundtrip in 28 hours. But yeah, side with the people who tried to kill him and Simone because they climbed ahead of them and one of them said "fuck". Totally reasonable.
36 years in Khumbu, Everest Region. Sherpa's NEVER attack or insult other people, i know this. Just ask in Everest Area if Nico EVER insulted Sherpas......or Sherpas insulted me....... In fact I never use a porter, guide or Sherpa....I do it myself......
Which would put you off with many of the locals, who would resent the fact you're not giving one of them employment. Just ask any number of solo trekkers in Nepal who hump it on their own.
Well, it is pretty much like a mission . There is always a leader or guide for any kind of battles, war or even for the expedition . One has to go according to the team leader other than exceptional. If they can climb the mountain by their own with no assist. They don't have to hire Sherpa climber and make them feel no value of their presence in the middle of mountain trail. The point where there is a risk of death and life, they act like that's a play hill . Climbing by their own is exceptable if they climb by their own with no Sherpas at all. Even if anything happens to them , the entire blame goes to Sherpas. Please, being paid does not mean one can do monopoly. Sorry for what happened to these people.
Actually there are other reasons why a permit can be extended....money, politics, the gov't worrying that it make them look bad/petty....so maybe it was a statement to other Europeans/non-Tibetan visitors of Everest. I've looked at many videos and articles about this incident and still don't know what actually happened, AND I know that sherpas are very good, hard-working people, kind too, who make just enough money until the next ascent. Maybe that's part of the problem. They feel they're being taken advantage of and then here comes these "stars of mountain-climbing" who say they don't want to use their ropes, ladders and seem boastful ...but then they DO use those ropes and ladders and it angers the sherpas. I can understand that....and maybe you said something or were disrespectful and they'd had enough of it. I guess we'll never know the real story, but my experience with sherpas is that they are very level-headed, mentally/physically strong people.
U know sherpas? All of them? Yeah, we could all see how good civilized ppl they are. Typical leftie: in what world u can kill somebody for wrongdoing? Maybe next time sb will club u to death when u do smth wrong in his eyes
The climbers are really superficial ,espeacially those who climb Everest are really egoistic. Like the case with David Sharp ,who was passed by 40 climbers, no one gave him oxygen or tried to help him,they had only one dream to climb everest,but not stoping to help someone, or they don't lisen to sherpas , when they have superstions abouth death on the mountain , the sherpas ,they risk their life ,and receive little money ...thats sad...
Some climbers are superficial, some are not, some sherpas are suPerficial and materialistic as well...no reason to paint everyone with the same brush. By the way you shouldn't listen to superstitions, regardless of whether they come from sherpas or anybody else. Also, the sherpas who guide climbers up the mountain are well paid...they are often the wealthiest people in nepal. I think you confuse them with the porters who carry gear to basecamp but never go up the mountain and don't risk there life.
Nobody should risk their life for someone with a death with like Sharp. He was the egomaniac who thought he could beat Everest by himself. I’d have walked over him too
@@siltee9983 lol... what were they going to do... carry him down from the death zone? He chose his method of climbing which was little to no support. Anyone attempting to help him at that elevation was just adding another corpse.
i dont think u should be climbing mountains in Nepal anymore. And stop uploading videos from your perspective, just because sherpas are not going to upload video in there perspective does not make you right..
@@srijanme john doe is 100% right. there is no reason to almost stoning a man. 40 angry sherpas throwing rocks at the tent. only cowards would do that. that was a homicide trial and is absolutley unacceptable. they should brint them to justice.
Ueli is a legend. The sherpas were extremely jealous of his talent and the fact that he didn't need their help nor supplemental oxygen. On top of this, he was so fast that it made them look bad as he passed them on the way up. The Sherpas were cowards and waited until they were back at camp and had 50 people before attacking the professional climbers.
I think so. Ueli had a short interview with a sherpa the same day he died. It's on TH-cam. The facial expression of the sherpa during this interview was horrible, really non empathetic, something in his voice creepy.
One of Uli climbing partners cursed the Sherpas 'MotherF.....' and a derogatory term 'Machinke'. The climbing partner was even questioned if he uttered the M word by the Sherpa. Plus Uli & his 2 friends were climbing above the Sherpas after being told not to do cos the Sherpas were setting up ropes. This caused ice & rock to fall on the Sherpas. The cursing it seems was the last blow that set the Sherpas off. There another video on TH-cam with the fight on base camp. No matter what, when going to other countries, Uli & friends needed to respect the local customs. I know I would be pissed if some self entitled western come to my country & start cursing me. The difference with Nepal is if in my country I reported to the police the conduct of the westerners - the westerners would have been told off.
Sherpas were employees of a commercial guiding company who are only allowed there because of the commercial permit acquired by their employer. Ueli had a professional permit and had just as much right to be there. Lead employee of the commercial guide company's rope laying crew couldn't take having his overnflated ego crushed by the reality being shown to him by Ueli and his group. 1) The locals have no special right to be there and the westerners had just as much permission to be on the mountain. 2) The locals have no special authority and are only employees of a commercial guide company, and probably owned by a westerner. 3) The locals have no magical mystical mountain abilities and the westerners were more knowledgeable, more skilled and more able in the mountains. 4) To top it off, Ueli and group showed just how dispensible the employees were by easily finishing their work for them after the initial conflict. The magical mystical mountain men could not take someone telling them they are not that special or better than others and then demonstrating it to them. Don't know if that huge ego was fragile but it was crushed pretty hard. The rope laying crew was completely in the wrong and are nothing more than employees who cannot be on the mountain without a government permit. I guess it is more fun to think of the locals as magical mystical mountain men with special powers and a level of spirituality that we cannot comprehend. Maybe you could share with some of us what clothes the emperor is wearing today also.
I read they also skipped the meeting that the group who invited them hosted. Idk what the situation was, but I would have felt obligated just out of respect and appreciation.
Playing the victim. The Sherpas said there piece and left it at that why he runs home crying to the media. What happens on the mountain stays on the mountain.
He's lying. Another Westerner who witnessed everything gave an AMA and told the truth. Steck & Moro They basically said, "F you, Sherpa..." in the Sherpa language. That's like going to the Bronx and yelling out racial obscenities. You just don't do that. They then climbed directly above the Sherpa, kicking ice and rocks in their faces. Everyone descended. At the base of the Lhotse face, name calling continued, and a Sherpa was reportedly held against the ice by shoulders & neck. This is at the word of my Western guide who was on the rope fixing team.
they make very little money and alot of sherpas feel like they are forced to do that job. I don't think it was "nothing". Maybe a good chonk of ice hit them and they just became livid
@@fs96jfj36 Yes, exactly - I also don‘t think it was ‚nothing, but the ‚star‘ climbers the Sherpas were angry with seemed to feel they hadn‘t been out of line. I‘m totally on the Sherpas side here.
@@fs96jfj36 not entirely true. Sherpas are often the wealthiest people in the country. After years of guiding Sherpas can retire comfortably and live in relative wealth. They are "forced" to do that job because there's no other industry in Nepal. The average household makes like $2 a day and Sherpas make thousands from ~2 months of guiding. Without western expeditions these Sherpas would have no other true work opportunity
alpinists ?? It sounds like some high school football champion guy trying to show off in a Superbowl. Himalaya is huge. It's not like those tinybity alpines.
I rather believe the sherpa story.. why should they attack western climbers without reason?? Just because they moved fast.. how fancied to think that.. they disturbed the important work of the sherpas, didnt attend the meeting in bc and just acted egoistic!
David F alpinists ?? It sounds like some high school football champion guy trying to show off in a Superbowl. Himalaya is huge. It's not like those tinybity alpines.
There are deep canvas/pits over there which are connected for trekking by joining up three or more ladders. So why is this guy so caught up about only the robe! Is he even saying that he's going to carry ladders for himself? Might be if he can work on his inflated ego, then he can do better.
Banned for words? How about the attempted murder when the Sherpa through a boulder into his tent? F*ck these Sherpas. He was climbing without Sherpa assistance, they have no right to try to tell him what to do.
Well..... Perhaps the mountain gods don't like sponsored professionals...don't like to see their kingdom turned into a little shithole for wealthy arseholes....who knows....? Seriously...I always admired Ueli....one of the best climbers ever !! R.I.P.
Ueli is real example of one of the western people who never admit their mistake and try to apologize. Still think he is on top of everyone. The reason he was given with permit extension because of the money involved not because Sherpa's made mistake; at any cost do not blame Sherpa and dis respect them otherwise you will deserve back which will be very bad to take in. Westerners learn humility; humanity; respect and get educated.
This bald interviewer tries to portray all the European climbers who go to the high peaks in Asia are better than the locals who work for their livelihood for generations and revere their mountains. Now, he's trying to cover up his fellow European climber's rowdy behavior abroad.
Chipped coffee cup and gutter is full of pine needles is this a Cafe . Seriously though I think they had be warned about the set routes and ropes and ladders , Sherpa only get money from the mountains , next time pay the locals .
They should be blacklisted from Nepal, why would the sherpas attack them without reason. I can't believe how the western media showed him as an innocent professional climber and sherpas as an angry mob. There must be an untold side of story somewhere in Nepal.
"why would the sharpas attack them without reason?" I don't know, why would the climbers have bothered the Sherpas for no reason? That question goes two ways. The Western media bent over backwards to portray this group of nearly a hundred guys vs. three men as balanced as possible. Every article I read went in detail about grievances that the Sherpas had. The reality is, if a mob of people is violent and ganging up on a few guys - they are the ones in the wrong.
David F It is laughable how you are characterizing all the Sherpas here. You are lying either because you slept with Simone or you are Simone disguising here under a fake name "David F". Shame on you Simone or Ueli , whoever you are disguising yourself here under David F.
You most definitely won`t find it in Nepal as the government has all but completely ignored the Sherpas, but you might find it here although this is a tough one because everybody seems to be painting an ever so pretty picture of themselves and both parties definitely are outright lying in some spots. But have fun :) www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/mountaineering/everest-2013/Tashi-Sherpa-Interview.html www.alpineexposures.com/blogs/chamonix-conditions/7815849-everest-final-release If that won`t do try googling "Everest brawl 2013" you`ll have a week worth of reading :)
People who hate us, will not be allowed to stay with us. David F is a hater. If he thinks he is an American from North Carolina and wants the whole world to be like America, let him stay in America (The land stolen from the Native people 200 years ago) David F, we have your picture, name and nationality. Don't ever come to Nepal. You will regret it, hater ! PS: Our sources found out that you re not a true American. You're were born in Europe and migrated to the US. That's the main reason why you have been backing up the fake story made up by the three European climbers. Kudos!
David F, is a White skinned, bald headed European man. He migrated from l'Alleud, Belgium and now living in North Carolina, USA. Since he is a proud European citizen, he likes to defend his fellow European mountain climbers and that's what he has been doing since the fight broke out in the high Himalayas between three Alpine climbers and Nepalese Himalayan Sherpas. All of his comments are biased towards his fellow Europeans even though the eyewitnesses have said that the Europeans caused the huge ice rocks to fall upon the rope fixing Sherpas below, luckily missing those sherpas. May be David F doesn't read news from main stream media like these: www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/29/mount-everest-brawl_n_3176520.html www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/treading-on-thin-ice-three-european-climbers-get-into-fight-with-sherpas-near-everest-summit-8594350.html
He had so many chances to explain the side of the Sherpas but never took the opportunity to do so. It’s unfortunate because Ueli of all people appreciated the magnanimous Himalayas more than many of us will ever. Why could he not develop a bond with the Sherpas instead of making them angry on their own holy mountain? From what I gather, the fight broke out due to him claiming a sense of ownership he just did not have. Establishing routes without permission, using routes without giving money to the Sherpas who pitched them, walking on parts of the holy mountain without permission from the Sherpa, without prayers. It’s a shame. Maybe this is why Ueli died on Everest of all places. Mountain magic fighting for its people. Rest In Peace.
Reading as many reports and interviews as I can, it wasn't Steck that provoked the argument, it was mostly Simone - he used the phrase motherfucker and slave.
I died climbing it. There is no conservation what so ever of the mountain. When it's eventually closed. The mountains still be there. And the Sherpa people will also remain. More respect needs to the mountains. Money and these kind climbers need to be humbled. I see the were many other sports have gone. Steroids performance enhancements. There climb on the backs corpes of the dead. He was one of the greatest climbers in history. But i would spit in face.
It would be nice if this interview actually explain what happened.... not eveyone is aware of this incident.
RIP Ulei. Hope you are in the continuity of the journey. He will always remembered for his climbing skills and sportsmanship.
Big time, he was a legend
What happened to him?
@@bobbyhall7472 He didn't listen to the Sherpas and the idiot fell to his death.
@@bobbyhall7472 died because the "worlds best climber" went solo on everest. Guess you should really listen to sherpas who are experienced compared to this random white dude
@@bobbyhall7472 he died on the mountain
Let's here from the sherpas for a change
Hear.
We have. There will always be two sides to a story. Sometimes nobody’s wrong nobody’s right. It’s based on perception. He thought he was safe going without a rope. The sherpas didn’t like it. They like to be relied on AND do have some responsibility towards their “clients”. And the ice falling was ultimately an accident.
All in all it was their clashing attitude that caused the rift.
Sadly this climber ended up paying the ultimate price.
They call the Sherpas slaves.... And then are surprised they are getting beat up.
@@christheking1 Sherpas do what they do for a living... When they see western climbers doing this for fun or for their egos, and doing a different route, without their help without oxygen etc, its like saying oh look we do this with no issues and you guys complain all the time and say that this is hard..... they are exposing the Sherpas work in the mountain, I dont really think the Sherpas care if the solo westerns die on their own... They care about their work and income source.... Its like you know a trick that nobody else knows....and you make profit of it, but then all of a sudden you start seeing other people trying and doing the same thing exposing your special trick to the world....You are gonna be slightly mad at those people for sure....
@@qbw8834 you're kidding yourself. They literally were interfering with their work and then called them slaves... It's no surprise they almost got beaten up.
It would be great if the sherpas were interviewed
They extended his permit for a reason. If it had been totally his fault then the Nepalese government would not have done that.
This guy said motherf…. To Sherpas in Nepal no one tolerated that kind of word
I'm tires of people calling racism...we are all humans there are good and bad in all races
There are no different races. its just in your mind!
Electric Blue Tell that to the moronic people who only complain about white people but never about anybody else despite all the hard evidence!
Ueli died after slipping and falling during acclimatization and it was the Sherpas who rescued his dead body.
poor Ueli. Hated how the media tried to blame Ueli for the incident and accused him of being racist or whatever when he made angry comments about sherpas when still in shock!!!!
Where can I find a reliable source of information about this ? So far all I have is a fairly famous Swiss mountaineer having heated words with the local citizenry and nearly getting his head handed to him.
th-cam.com/video/pAaVK8eJsfo/w-d-xo.html
@@BrownSugarBaby1992 what do you mean they decide if they live or die? they did unassisted climbs they did not employ sherpas... just got in each other's way
th-cam.com/video/xOPe-Y9qYGI/w-d-xo.html someone called the sherpas slaves over the radio after a heated disagreement while climbing.
th-cam.com/video/pAaVK8eJsfo/w-d-xo.html I don't know if this will help you. It seemed the elite climbers were not being kind to the sherpas.
Interviewer: "Everest is not an interesting climb".
Well.. take a new route.. there are harder ways.. don't use any ready existing ropes and ladders.. Then make that comment.
Watch White Limbo 1984 Australian expedition Alpine style West face summit.
@@moinamathers4020 North Face, not West
Agreed, routes such as the Japanese couloir and direct west ridge are amazing lines!
i also had bad sherpa experience. don't believe a second they are those smiling and peacefull dudes.
in front of all others or cameras, the best guys on earth - deal made, got even a bonus before we started - once alone with them, even threatened to be let alone.
question on all commenators: is your fucking chair comfortable, or do you speak from your fucking own experience?
RIP Ueli
Long story short it was a shakedown. Everest is a business...the sherpas run their ropes and ladders and make it impossible for you not to use them or interfere with them. They didn't like they were going up without local help and they touched their ropes and they used it as an excuse to attack them... it is what it is. This story has been told a million times and only those with common sense seem to pick up what's not being said out of respect for locals. For whatever reason I dont know why everyone sides with the sherpas. Are there no bad sherpas ?!?! 30-60k American dollars paid to a tour group feeds 20 people for a year in Nepal. Everest is their business. The mountain is not hard to climb. It's more conditioning and people's health at the time of climb.
I'll break it down to you.
a) The Sherpa's told them 3 guys (Ueli and 2 others) to not go ahead of them since they would be install ropes and stairs (The route the sherpas use ) and Ueli and 2 others were using the same way before sherpas even after being told not to. Also since someone is above you while doing it, there is a good chance of an accident to happen since ice falls behind and it is really dangerous cus the climb is almost straight. Also how would they touch the ropes if there were none? Didn't you know the ropes and stairs are being installed every year?? What you think they just did that once and left it for the coming years? Lol
c) The Sherpa's claimed that even after they warning those guys they climbed and one of the sherpa (Simon) got hit with ice on his face and got bruised.
Also one of the 3 guys (forgot the name) pointed with ice on the ice hammer of one of the sherpas (again forgot the name prolly simon). Last but not least the one of those 3 guys (forgot the name) said "Machikne" and that's a derogatory slang in Nepali (You can even conform one of the Sherpa's asking to confirm that he knows whats "Machikney" and that guy accepting it and getting slapped, check the fights video you'll find it).
And that was the last blow
this is the truth. They side with the sherpas, because everybody is a wannabe sjw and sherpas is considered "minority"
It hasnot happened ever since... its not the business point of view... may b some disrespect to the local tribes.
'The mountain is not hard to climb'...Mount Everest...yeah righto lmao
RIP Bro, absolute legend
His inflated ego got the better of himself.
I've been to E.B.C. IN 2011. The Sherpas and porters are a humble people and i liked them but i was nearly breaking up something when 3 to 4 of these guys began to hit an israeli guy @ Lukla . They gang up on people if they have a dispute .
Brits out!! Eíre 🇮🇪
REPENT BELIEVE Right. There are Sherpas who are bad apples too. The stories are out there. All this one sided Sherpa praising is extremely narrow minded.
they are cowards
They are typically much smaller than Europeans and will only confront Europeans if they outnumber you. It's pretty pathetic.
@@BrownSugarBaby1992 they didnt use a woman the woman defended 3 people against 50 cowards and complete savages that should be in prison. All this because they were better climbers. I hope you say something as dumb irl to the wrong people so they give you the same treatment, because youre the one who deserve it if you think throwing rocks at 3 people for childish reasons is ok
"NO COMMENT" 🙄REALLY he just Finley told us all after climbing all that time did I really hear him that come out from uli.😨😥 kinda sad this was highly disappointing.🤷♂️ from another alpinest I always loved the mountains even on my worst days.
Please read the Sherpa's side too:
In a meeting at Camp II, we had decided that no one would climb until
we finished our job. We were aware that many climbers would hike up
from Camp II to acclimatize. Fixing ropes is a sensitive and huge task.
So, we strictly alerted everyone not to go high up.
We were a team consisting of belayers and leaders. In our job, if one
of us makes a small mistake, another member can be injured. So, we have
to be extra careful. We were at 22,000 feet at around 8 a.m on April
27. We saw that three foreign climbers were climbing up. We were all
using the same radio frequency so when we saw them, we asked other
Sherpas to stop them because ice can fall from high up. But they didn’t
stop. Nobody knew who they were. Someone said they were Russians. When
we inquired about them through the radio, we were told that they were
Russians and had a permit to climb Lhotse. Even then, we tried to stop
them, but they didn’t listen and continued to climb using our ropes.
They turned out to be three renowned climbers and guides-Simone Moro, Ueli Steck, and Jonathan Griffith.
They told us: We will not disturb you; we will take
another route. After their assurance, we allowed them to go ahead. By
this time we had reached 23,000 feet. Our goal for the day was to
complete the rope fixing up to Camp III and then go 600 feet farther.
When the Europeans traversed past Mingma Tenzing, our lead fixer, ice
tumbled down and hit one of our crew members, a Sherpa who works for
Adventure Consultants. His face had bruises. This hasn’t been revealed
yet. (Earlier, we lied to people saying that it was from a slip, but in
fact a chunk of ice had struck him.) I don’t know whether they had
dislodged the ice intentionally or whether it was just an accident, but
pieces of ice were dislodged and that was the main issue. Mingma told us
that it was becoming too dangerous to continue. These people climbed up
despite our call not to do so. Mingma said we should descend, so we
followed his instructions.
This message was also delivered to our coordinator Greg Vernovage
[the leader of the International Mountain Guides Expedition] at Camp II.
Mingma had already anchored the rope and while he was rappelling down,
Simone approached him and began the verbal abuse. “How much money do you
need?” he asked Mingma. As this was going on, Ueli Steck stormed in and
grabbed Mingma’s chest. It was very dangerous to grab someone’s chest
in such a high and precarious place. I was 100 yards below him at the
time. I was leading on the right side while Karma Sarki was at Mingma’s
side. We had already decided to descend because the three were not only
getting in our way but were also picking fights. Simone uttered words
that were abusive. Ueli also pointed his ice axe toward Mingma. I was
scared at the time. We descended wondering why they had defied our
warning and why they were keen on getting into a quarrel.
We
arrived back at Camp II at around 2 p.m. Everyone was aware of what
happened on the Lhotse Face because they all had tuned in to the same
radio frequency. The overwhelming mood in the camp was that of
resentment.
it shows how discusting of a human being was Steck.
Who do these sherpas think they are to give orders to people who are not their clients.
And if ice was dislodged why would it be done on purpose? Just an excuse.
I do understand when sherpas get upset or refuse to work in difficult conditions.
But they are risking themselves for the money their clients pay them. And they need to focus their anger on themselves and their clients.
They have no authority nor they own the mountains to tell non- clients when or where to climb.
@@jonlucas5727 You don't get to climb on someone else's rope.
@tonymtlwpg i do have a great respect for Sherpa people. However, since everest climbing became a touristic business so non-real climbers can show off in front of friends, this started putting sherpas in real danger.
But this does not give authority to sherpas over real climbers who go for free, know how to move around the mountain on their own, and just share camps with them.
Modern sherpas need to blame themselves and some of their clients for the risks they decide to undertake.
I am sure no real sherpas would have attacked without a reason real mountaineers, who have mutual respect for each other collective they are both elite climbers. Not professional tourists like the ones who crowd on the everest routes.
R.I.P. Ueli.
R.I.P Alexei Bolotov.
Two amazing climbers, and two of the heroes who risked their lifes to try to rescue Iñaki Otxoa de Olza on Annapurna.
@Skyler.G Agreed, HOWEVER - its you're* not your..... you look very stupid now! Have a good day!
The mountain decides who succeeds, fails or dies. Don't ever forget your basic kindness and manners. Your karma is your story - make it a good one. We need each other. Love and Light.
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Dude
You do not go to a country
Insult and shout abuse at a bunch of early 20 something local lads risking their lives without health insurance or any liability pay for their families if they die who rush their lives daily to help visitors climb and survive Everest
So, a professional climber isnt allowed to climb a UNESCO heritage before the locals as its bad for their business, and if someone swings and ice axe at 7500m at you, you're not allowed to call him "motherfucker"? Thats not Uelis/my problem. To climb Everest you need to pay a tax, its their governments job to make sure those money are wise spent and invested in the health system, plus, those sherpas work for private companies, why arent those companies held accountable for the safety of the sherpas? Why does an amateur climber/visitor with deep pockets has priority over a professional athlete?
U ve been there? Dont comment on smth u dont have clue about
@@ImMikoFreako U ve been there? Dont comment on smth u dont have clue about.
@@netdirect2766 the climbers started the brawl by insulting them
Of course they are allowed to climb
They can even use free speech
I meant you shouldn't go somewhere and disrespect those who live there
Especially when they risk their lives so others may do this stuff
@@idontcareaboutpcpolitics222 if the climbers did start the brawl, what was it for? Were they just climbing and randomly started insulting the sherpas, or there was a conflict before which led to them insulting? Good. If they are allowed to climb, dont complain about them climbing. Fix your ropes, get paid, and go home safe. Free speach? Simone is on his knees forced to ask for forgivness and hes getting kicked by some savages and you are talking about free speach? Who disrespected them? You think that if youre a sherpa youre automatically a Dalai Lama, or? Their ego made this worse, as they couldnt accept the westerners helped them with the ropes. Risk their lives for 5000€/season while the average salary in Nepal is 70€/month... yeah, tell that to a cop or a firefighter. After all Simone did in Nepal, you, the sherpas, and all who go against him should feel ashamed for pointing fingers. Apart, if this wouldve happened on Mont Blanc and some french dudes wouldve kicked a sherpa for climbing before them, western society wouldve been demonized all over the news. But hey, better prostitute a mountain and allow only the fat-cats to climb it... if you want to climb Everesr/K2 etc... alpine style or gtfo.
Kind of weird he died on everest where he got in a fight with the sherpas
I SmithNwesson he didn’t die on Everest...
Going back in a couple of years was april 2017.
So it seems the locals pulled the welcome mat out on Ueli....
How weird saying "I don't like being sponsored", what kind of relationship does he have with his sponsor?!
thats not what I meant, I'm sure he gets on with the people, but when you're sponsored you're supposed to endorse the product and the sponsor themselves, by openly saying "I don't like being sponsored" for me it seems as if that isn't the best way to show support for those people who practically enable you to do what you love doing. But meh, its ueli, he does what he wants anyway :)
I do not wish to speak ill of the dead but Ueli has an ego that reaches beyond his understanding of cultural constraints. Yes there is a backlash happening amongst sherpas and the exploitation that is happening but you need to remain respectful of everything that is going on. What he said and did is not acceptable - regardless of his frustration at not achieving his goal - remember his goals were personal but that does not make them globally acceptable when others share risk.
So you for a fact know what he said?
@@donniev8181 I am sorry if I offended. If you are asking me if I heard any words personally then no. There were words like 'Motherfucker' used by the climbing group. This is extremely offensive in most cultures but to the Sherpas it's another level. If you know differently I am more than happy to hear your explanation of the incident. Either way it is an extremely disrespectful treatment of local culture and local beliefs.
@@settz61 no i was genuinely asking if you knew that he said something. I with you in that no matter what was said the sherpas reaction is not justified. No one should be physically attacked because of something that was said. Another thing I find peculiar is that he died upon his next visit?
Step up, admit you were wrong, go on. Yes, you are the guest in their country. No matter how much you pay, you play THEIR game. When people go to your country, they play YOUR game.
If it was Switzerland, they would have a 5,000 CHF fine for leaving one O2 bottle or scrap of paper on the mountain…
Wait, what? He didn’t want to be a “sponsored climber”?
What’s the alternative? Do you get to the summit then money rains down from the sky while a booming voice from above says “good job, dude”? This is what happens when you turn your passion into your profession. Used to be you could do whatever you wanted whenever you wanted but once you go pro, that’s it. There are products to sell and other people’s interests involved. This isn’t a news flash...
It's more nuanced : He didn't like being a sponsored climber, but he knew it was the only way and he fulfilled all his obligations like a good boy. I think that's all he meant and there's nothing wrong with that.
Does anyone know the name of the song in the background?
Why would you want to Haha
Thought thos was an explanation of it. Click bait.
great!!!!!!!!!!
This clash may have changed Ueli's ideas to accomplish his goal, hence the impossible route that resulted in death. RIP
The extention of the permit just another example of government putting profits before their people. Does not mean this guy wasnt completely in the wrong. Rip I saw he fell to his death a few years ago
... watching further - he calls out the game & the sponsorship strangulation by regulation making personal freedoms pigeonholed into an an actual game so I get his side too. Seems like he just didnt do his research and it was a lack of due dligence rather than disregard for the Sherpa lives as well as their quality of life via their livelyhood
I think these 3 should have made there intent know from the start and try to go before the sherpa started work
if you watch the Reel Rock film about th incident, i think a number of factors are in play. first the guys rocketing up south col with the sherpas fixing line was misguided though they were punished deeply for it. you have to see it through Sherpas eyes , to see these guys though physically unbelievably it must have been a slap in the face for them in a way. I think Uli got the disproportionate blame compared to Moro who lets say is..err... a self admitted hothead. but no winners really here in all this. well worth seeing that film to see footage. they could have been killed (not by the mountain!)
Sherpas had their revenge. Steck is where he belongs now.
@@arthurclairefontaine7994 what a moronic comment.
Sherpas are drinking a lot if there is any problem a
or argument they are loosing the plot ... and they want fight and are very aggressive .. and if you pay lots of money they are nice and friendly but if you do not pay enough watch your back .. been 4 times in Himalayas .
using other ropes without permission ... risking other lives too .. ignoring others advice ... calling MF in our mother language ... lol .. the sherpa people u meet are people who survives due the tourism i bet you haven't meet any ordinary sherpa ... they are kind and friendly ..
@@pramesh.gurung no proofs for that. Those "poor sherpas" didn't even show a guy being hit by ice as they claim. but there are plenty of proofs of them ganging up on 3 men. just like a bunch cowards
@@user-sw7ln9ro7y so we have to shoot it?? lol sherpa are one of the nicest people around. it gets more than a thing to rile them up. if you are using their rope you gotta pay. you don't go to a country and curse them in their own language.
@@pramesh.gurung so they can get away with any sort of cowardly violence because they are nicest people around? you suggest to take that for granted and also believe that top tier climbers used their rope. without proofs. we also should close our eyes to videos of sherpa violence from that incident and completely ignore worlds most reputable climbers side of the story. seems convenient
@@user-sw7ln9ro7y cowardly violence??? lol a Asian man goes on a white dominant place and insults them in their own language. do you think he would get out of there unharmed? i am not promoting violence but he got spanking for being a egoistic douche. i have seen that video. when they were confronting about the ropes he said was "machikine..." which is ultimate insult in nepali language. It is typical white man syndrome where they think they are above all. Violence was bad i accept that but he is a douche.
Rip Ueli Steck, true legend
No sherpa to save him this time. But they retrieved his body. He wasn't a nice person.
This guy is full of shits and egos.
@@tormon506 I don't think he needed Sherpas dumbass, he solo'd Annapurna roundtrip in 28 hours. But yeah, side with the people who tried to kill him and Simone because they climbed ahead of them and one of them said "fuck". Totally reasonable.
@BLAKE Vega What? Many, many sherpas have died while climbing. As can anyone attempting such dangerous climbs.
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Don't expect anything, it's just business. RIP
36 years in Khumbu, Everest Region. Sherpa's NEVER attack or insult other people, i know this. Just ask in Everest Area if Nico EVER insulted Sherpas......or Sherpas insulted me....... In fact I never use a porter, guide or Sherpa....I do it myself......
Which would put you off with many of the locals, who would resent the fact you're not giving one of them employment. Just ask any number of solo trekkers in Nepal who hump it on their own.
There is a new generation of sherpas nico...they are not like the old ones.
kiitos
rip ueli
Lukla is an excellent place for coffee - several good coffee shops. Better than Namche. Altitude problems there I suppose !
if only he didnt go back :( RIP Steck
Perhaps, that's what people usually called Karma. Little bit of humility in life never hurts!
Indeed! RIP, Ueli.
Well, it is pretty much like a mission . There is always a leader or guide for any kind of battles, war or even for the expedition . One has to go according to the team leader other than exceptional. If they can climb the mountain by their own with no assist. They don't have to hire Sherpa climber and make them feel no value of their presence in the middle of mountain trail. The point where there is a risk of death and life, they act like that's a play hill . Climbing by their own is exceptable if they climb by their own with no Sherpas at all. Even if anything happens to them , the entire blame goes to Sherpas. Please, being paid does not mean one can do monopoly. Sorry for what happened to these people.
Rip Ueli Steck, april 30 2017
Actually there are other reasons why a permit can be extended....money, politics, the gov't worrying that it make them look bad/petty....so maybe it was a statement to other Europeans/non-Tibetan visitors of Everest. I've looked at many videos and articles about this incident and still don't know what actually happened, AND I know that sherpas are very good, hard-working people, kind too, who make just enough money until the next ascent. Maybe that's part of the problem. They feel they're being taken advantage of and then here comes these "stars of mountain-climbing" who say they don't want to use their ropes, ladders and seem boastful ...but then they DO use those ropes and ladders and it angers the sherpas. I can understand that....and maybe you said something or were disrespectful and they'd had enough of it. I guess we'll never know the real story, but my experience with sherpas is that they are very level-headed, mentally/physically strong people.
U know sherpas? All of them? Yeah, we could all see how good civilized ppl they are. Typical leftie: in what world u can kill somebody for wrongdoing? Maybe next time sb will club u to death when u do smth wrong in his eyes
And NO they did not use their ropes.
The climbers are really superficial ,espeacially those who climb Everest are really egoistic. Like the case with David Sharp ,who was passed by 40 climbers, no one gave him oxygen or tried to help him,they had only one dream to climb everest,but not stoping to help someone, or they don't lisen to sherpas , when they have superstions abouth death on the mountain , the sherpas ,they risk their life ,and receive little money ...thats sad...
Some climbers are superficial, some are not, some sherpas are suPerficial and materialistic as well...no reason to paint everyone with the same brush.
By the way you shouldn't listen to superstitions, regardless of whether they come from sherpas or anybody else.
Also, the sherpas who guide climbers up the mountain are well paid...they are often the wealthiest people in nepal. I think you confuse them with the porters who carry gear to basecamp but never go up the mountain and don't risk there life.
Nobody should risk their life for someone with a death with like Sharp. He was the egomaniac who thought he could beat Everest by himself. I’d have walked over him too
High altitude sherpas are paid upwards of $5k to do Everest and the better ones get more.
@@donaldvanvliet9039 40 climbers passed David Sharp - No one helps - says it all
@@siltee9983 lol... what were they going to do... carry him down from the death zone?
He chose his method of climbing which was little to no support. Anyone attempting to help him at that elevation was just adding another corpse.
i dont think u should be climbing mountains in Nepal anymore. And stop uploading videos from your perspective, just because sherpas are not going to upload video in there perspective does not make you right..
these sherpas were violent greedy snitches mobbing with 40 ppl throwing rocks and hitting simon when he was on his knees to apologyze..
@@johndoe-wm4hy not all of them. They should of listened to the Sherpas fixing the ladder and ropes
@@johndoe-wm4hy hey asshole watch your mouth
@@srijanme john doe is 100% right. there is no reason to almost stoning a man. 40 angry sherpas throwing rocks at the tent. only cowards would do that. that was a homicide trial and is absolutley unacceptable. they should brint them to justice.
Ueli is a legend. The sherpas were extremely jealous of his talent and the fact that he didn't need their help nor supplemental oxygen. On top of this, he was so fast that it made them look bad as he passed them on the way up. The Sherpas were cowards and waited until they were back at camp and had 50 people before attacking the professional climbers.
BS you liar
Sherpas are the killers of Ueli
Sherpas are lowlife scum.
I think so. Ueli had a short interview with a sherpa the same day he died. It's on TH-cam. The facial expression of the sherpa during this interview was horrible, really non empathetic, something in his voice creepy.
I was in interlaken 😭😭😭😭😭
He went back to Everest after that fight? Guy must of had a death wish.
that's where he died
Who brought his body down from the mountain?
Nothing is bigger then nature , when you try to over play and disrespect the nature , that’s what happen rip
don't know why people are trying to defend Americans with this guy...This dude is not from America
Should be, he has a perfect American attitude.
One of Uli climbing partners cursed the Sherpas 'MotherF.....' and a derogatory term 'Machinke'. The climbing partner was even questioned if he uttered the M word by the Sherpa.
Plus Uli & his 2 friends were climbing above the Sherpas after being told not to do cos the Sherpas were setting up ropes. This caused ice & rock to fall on the Sherpas.
The cursing it seems was the last blow that set the Sherpas off.
There another video on TH-cam with the fight on base camp.
No matter what, when going to other countries, Uli & friends needed to respect the local customs. I know I would be pissed if some self entitled western come to my country & start cursing me. The difference with Nepal is if in my country I reported to the police the conduct of the westerners - the westerners would have been told off.
Exactly. Similarily all the muslims that come to my country have to respect our local customs.
Sherpas were employees of a commercial guiding company who are only allowed there because of the commercial permit acquired by their employer.
Ueli had a professional permit and had just as much right to be there.
Lead employee of the commercial guide company's rope laying crew couldn't take having his overnflated ego crushed by the reality being shown to him by Ueli and his group.
1) The locals have no special right to be there and the westerners had just as much permission to be on the mountain.
2) The locals have no special authority and are only employees of a commercial guide company, and probably owned by a westerner.
3) The locals have no magical mystical mountain abilities and the westerners were more knowledgeable, more skilled and more able in the mountains.
4) To top it off, Ueli and group showed just how dispensible the employees were by easily finishing their work for them after the initial conflict.
The magical mystical mountain men could not take someone telling them they are not that special or better than others and then demonstrating it to them. Don't know if that huge ego was fragile but it was crushed pretty hard.
The rope laying crew was completely in the wrong and are nothing more than employees who cannot be on the mountain without a government permit.
I guess it is more fun to think of the locals as magical mystical mountain men with special powers and a level of spirituality that we cannot comprehend. Maybe you could share with some of us what clothes the emperor is wearing today also.
Hey I like that word. its got bite
I read they also skipped the meeting that the group who invited them hosted. Idk what the situation was, but I would have felt obligated just out of respect and appreciation.
Playing the victim. The Sherpas said there piece and left it at that why he runs home crying to the media. What happens on the mountain stays on the mountain.
Exactly!
Yea these guys are pussies
He's lying. Another Westerner who witnessed everything gave an AMA and told the truth.
Steck & Moro They basically said, "F you, Sherpa..." in the Sherpa language. That's like going to the Bronx and yelling out racial obscenities. You just don't do that.
They then climbed directly above the Sherpa, kicking ice and rocks in their faces. Everyone descended. At the base of the Lhotse face, name calling continued, and a Sherpa was reportedly held against the ice by shoulders & neck. This is at the word of my Western guide who was on the rope fixing team.
Boring...
It‘s hard to believe that dozens of Sherpas, renowned for being kind and peaceful, kicked off in such spectacular fashion over nothing.
they make very little money and alot of sherpas feel like they are forced to do that job. I don't think it was "nothing". Maybe a good chonk of ice hit them and they just became livid
@@fs96jfj36 Yes, exactly - I also don‘t think it was ‚nothing, but the ‚star‘ climbers the Sherpas were angry with seemed to feel they hadn‘t been out of line. I‘m totally on the Sherpas side here.
@@fs96jfj36 not entirely true. Sherpas are often the wealthiest people in the country. After years of guiding Sherpas can retire comfortably and live in relative wealth. They are "forced" to do that job because there's no other industry in Nepal. The average household makes like $2 a day and Sherpas make thousands from ~2 months of guiding. Without western expeditions these Sherpas would have no other true work opportunity
alpinists ?? It sounds like some high school football champion guy trying to show off in a Superbowl. Himalaya is huge. It's not like those tinybity alpines.
I rather believe the sherpa story.. why should they attack western climbers without reason?? Just because they moved fast.. how fancied to think that.. they disturbed the important work of the sherpas, didnt attend the meeting in bc and just acted egoistic!
David F alpinists ?? It sounds like some high school football champion guy trying to show off in a Superbowl. Himalaya is huge. It's not like those tinybity alpines.
+Sifecta well sherpa are not really most civilized people.
There are deep canvas/pits over there which are connected for trekking by joining up three or more ladders. So why is this guy so caught up about only the robe! Is he even saying that he's going to carry ladders for himself? Might be if he can work on his inflated ego, then he can do better.
He should have climbed a different route.
The sherpas clearly showed abusive words are unacceptable, in fact he should be banned
Banned for words? How about the attempted murder when the Sherpa through a boulder into his tent? F*ck these Sherpas. He was climbing without Sherpa assistance, they have no right to try to tell him what to do.
la verdadadera humildad no aparece en el alfabeto occidental,..tampoco el sentido de culpa ,..menos el sentido de disculpa..
Ich habe nicht verstanden. Kannst du in english sprechen.
This guy Ueli was in the wrong... Idc what y'all say lol
@@DavidF9511 you sound American!
Sherpas on Everest should boycott Mountain hard wear just for this video.
Really?What would sherpas do without the people paying for their services?Start agriculture?
Well.....
Perhaps the mountain gods don't like sponsored professionals...don't like to see their kingdom turned into a little shithole for wealthy arseholes....who knows....?
Seriously...I always admired Ueli....one of the best climbers ever !!
R.I.P.
Ueli is real example of one of the western people who never admit their mistake and try to apologize. Still think he is on top of everyone. The reason he was given with permit extension because of the money involved not because Sherpa's made mistake; at any cost do not blame Sherpa and dis respect them otherwise you will deserve back which will be very bad to take in. Westerners learn humility; humanity; respect and get educated.
white people are the only humans one's permitted to be racist towards. humanity and respect? get the fuck out of here, you hypocrite.
This bald interviewer tries to portray all the European climbers who go to the high peaks in Asia are better than the locals who work for their livelihood for generations and revere their mountains. Now, he's trying to cover up his fellow European climber's rowdy behavior abroad.
european climbers are better than Asian. Look at the list of first ascents in summer and winter. Almost all are Europeans
these sherpas were violent greedy snitches mobbing with 40 ppl throwing rocks and hitting simon when he was on his knees to apologyze..
Boycott Mountain Hardware.
It's junk anyway.
Chipped coffee cup and gutter is full of pine needles is this a Cafe . Seriously though I think they had be warned about the set routes and ropes and ladders , Sherpa only get money from the mountains , next time pay the locals .
They should be blacklisted from Nepal, why would the sherpas attack them without reason. I can't believe how the western media showed him as an innocent professional climber and sherpas as an angry mob. There must be an untold side of story somewhere in Nepal.
"why would the sharpas attack them without reason?" I don't know, why would the climbers have bothered the Sherpas for no reason? That question goes two ways.
The Western media bent over backwards to portray this group of nearly a hundred guys vs. three men as balanced as possible. Every article I read went in detail about grievances that the Sherpas had. The reality is, if a mob of people is violent and ganging up on a few guys - they are the ones in the wrong.
Yeah it does seem like a complex situaton but they definitely got a mob mentality and blamed the wrong guys
David F It is laughable how you are characterizing all the Sherpas here. You are lying either because you slept with Simone or you are Simone disguising here under a fake name "David F".
Shame on you Simone or Ueli , whoever you are disguising yourself here under David F.
You most definitely won`t find it in Nepal as the government has all but completely ignored the Sherpas, but you might find it here although this is a tough one because everybody seems to be painting an ever so pretty picture of themselves and both parties definitely are outright lying in some spots.
But have fun :)
www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/mountaineering/everest-2013/Tashi-Sherpa-Interview.html
www.alpineexposures.com/blogs/chamonix-conditions/7815849-everest-final-release
If that won`t do try googling "Everest brawl 2013" you`ll have a week worth of reading :)
People who hate us, will not be allowed to stay with us. David F is a hater. If he thinks he is an American from North Carolina and wants the whole world to be like America, let him stay in America (The land stolen from the Native people 200 years ago)
David F, we have your picture, name and nationality. Don't ever come to Nepal. You will regret it, hater !
PS: Our sources found out that you re not a true American. You're were born in Europe and migrated to the US. That's the main reason why you have been backing up the fake story made up by the three European climbers. Kudos!
i would go back with a machine gun!!!!!!!!!! NO DOUBT
Sure you would hero.
@@rocnoir4233 will you help me???
@@robertoherkules8109 I would help you! I will be your sherpa and carry your machine guns and i even help you bury the bodies in the snow. 🏔
@@bellatorixrex You ain’t gonna do shit you pussy
Im doubting you because I know for a fact that you are soft as fuck and sensitive bitch boy
You reap what you sew........
You reap what you sow
You rip what you sew
David F, is a White skinned, bald headed European man. He migrated from l'Alleud, Belgium and now living in North Carolina, USA.
Since he is a proud European citizen, he likes to defend his fellow European mountain climbers and that's what he has been doing since the fight broke out in the high Himalayas between three Alpine climbers and Nepalese Himalayan Sherpas.
All of his comments are biased towards his fellow Europeans even though the eyewitnesses have said that the Europeans caused the huge ice rocks to fall upon the rope fixing Sherpas below, luckily missing those sherpas. May be David F doesn't read news from main stream media like these:
www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/29/mount-everest-brawl_n_3176520.html
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/treading-on-thin-ice-three-european-climbers-get-into-fight-with-sherpas-near-everest-summit-8594350.html
You disrespected the Sherpas.. you disrespected the mountain. “ pride goeth before the fall “
So punishment for disrespect is stoning to death?
He had so many chances to explain the side of the Sherpas but never took the opportunity to do so. It’s unfortunate because Ueli of all people appreciated the magnanimous Himalayas more than many of us will ever. Why could he not develop a bond with the Sherpas instead of making them angry on their own holy mountain? From what I gather, the fight broke out due to him claiming a sense of ownership he just did not have. Establishing routes without permission, using routes without giving money to the Sherpas who pitched them, walking on parts of the holy mountain without permission from the Sherpa, without prayers. It’s a shame. Maybe this is why Ueli died on Everest of all places. Mountain magic fighting for its people. Rest In Peace.
trashtalk stfu and watch a docz about it idiot
Reading as many reports and interviews as I can, it wasn't Steck that provoked the argument, it was mostly Simone - he used the phrase motherfucker and slave.
I died climbing it. There is no conservation what so ever of the mountain. When it's eventually closed. The mountains still be there. And the Sherpa people will also remain. More respect needs to the mountains. Money and these kind climbers need to be humbled. I see the were many other sports have gone. Steroids performance enhancements. There climb on the backs corpes of the dead. He was one of the greatest climbers in history. But i would spit in face.
I'm thinking that the mountain didn't like what transpired and exacted retribution....just sayin'
He have a liar Face
Screw this guy. Should have listened to the sherpas!
Sherpas killed Ueli Steck.
Trashing sherpas, classy
Such a BS interview. You take people's dignity they hit back, Sherpas have been revered but disrespected since the beginning.
He should have climbed a different route.