I'm 58 years old now, the real Soyuz-Apollo mission happened when I was 12 (1975) and I remember it as well as most of the space race of the late 60's through the 1990's shuttle missions (I saw Challenger live on TV in 1986, I will never forget it). I know this show is fictional but based on some real events in history, but moments like this scene remind me that NASA is an agency that needs to be funded properly and continue on. The advances in technology that came out of that era have given modern society so much. Also, it helped to ease tensions between the super powers at that time.
Instead of working towards the stars, humanity have done the opposite working inwards towards personal entertainment technology like making smaller handphones with more cameras and processing power 😂
@@AC-iz7eh Yeah, today's Phones have like umphteen thousand times the computing power of the apollo computers and a single phone could probably have handled every single aspect of the apollo missions (including all of mission control) all by itself.
Daym i just wish we would unite and go humanity fuck yeah mode to expolore space and creating technological wonders 😅 Iknow its silly dream🙈 Lets continue fighting for stupid reason
What we are not shown is what must have been the absolute hell given to the Soviet crew by their own ground control. They landed as heroes for sure, but at immense risk at first.
Thankfully, for the human race, there have been people like that at key moments. Everyone should know the name of Lt. Colonel Stanislav Petrov. Petrov was an officer on duty at a secret command centre south of Moscow when an chilling alarm went off signalling that the United States had launched intercontinental ballistic missiles carrying nuclear warheads. Petrov was faced with a choice, report the alarm to his superiors and potentially start a nuclear war leading to the end of the world OR bank on it being a false alarm. Heroically and following his gut instinct, he decided to ignore the signal and hope it was a mistake. He later said: "I categorically refused to be guilty of starting World War 3." "I felt like I was being led to an execution," he said. This absolute hero lived in a small town outside Moscow and died in relative obscurity in 2017 aged 77. His death only made headlines months later when a German friend wrote a blog post in tribute to him, telling the story of how one man saved the world from nuclear annihilation.
@@ReadmanJ same thing happened early on with the space station, the crew had to work long hours every single day and they got annoyed and took a day off and all of them were grounded.
"...but I speak for the President in this room and I think one good thing should happen on this shitty day." - it's my favorite line of the season, especially since it was delivered with absolute PERFECTION.
One of the things they seem to be ignoring is the reason for the large Apollo Soyuz Docking Adapter is that the Apollo and Soyuz have different atmospheric pressures and air mixtures. The ASDA served as an airlock and the crews had to undergo a complicated and long process to transfer to the other capsules environment or the astronauts and cosmonauts would get the bends. They would NEVER have both capsule hatches open at the same time.
That's a fair point, but I personally am willing to let it go because the scene is otherwise a wonderful work of cinematography. I love scenes in movies and TV where an epic gesture of peace is made
In the series there was an engineer team specially assigned to the task of docking both vessels, it makes sense that they would fix the gas composition problem along other things.
this also happens 8 years further along than the real docking; it's possible these issues may have been resolved (for example by matching the pressures and mixtures for these specific craft)
@@maxisalamone in real history there was also a fairly large engineering team assigned to the project. Reality is that trying to adapt Soyuz to a low pressure 100% oxygen atmosphere or Apollo to a close to standard atmospheric pressure oxygen-nitrogen mixed gas system would entail a complete rebuild of each capsule. The air lock docking system built for ASTP was the solution.
In the real soyez-appolo since both spacecraft used different air systems the 2 of the crew moved to the adapter l, closed the hatch between the adapter and Apollo, then opened the hatch to the soyez command module
@@dragoninthewest1 whatever her name is giving attitude and disobeying nasa ground control will get you a one way flight to your ass getting kicked out of the program
@@herberttorojr7640 Not necessarily out of the program, astronauts have a lot of groundside duties ; Some of these duties even need this kind of attitude. It's not even clear that they'd ground her, since in the end the docking was authorized by the acting NASA administrator and the president loved it, so...
@@herberttorojr7640 Lol, if you still haven't noticed by now, this show isn't really reflective of real life. That girl literally gave the director of JSA the middle finger and she is still around. Yeah, I highly doubt it.
@@willllllll1-u8p Zack has still got a point. As Advanced as Starship is, that’s the beginning. Once we can use space to move people between different planets, that’s when I’d say it’s more mature.
I like how there's also 2nd side to soyouz-apollo plot they were just waiting in orbit all the while knowing that US entered defcon 2 and earth was at brink of nuclear war, in alternattive-alternative-timeline they would be docked together as joined mission in space while looking as their repective countries descent into nuclear war leaving them wasteland planet to land in
The reality was rather different they had to have a decompression airlock between the 2 so they didn't get the bends due to different pressures used by US and USSR in the capsules after Apollo 1 fire. They had to wait hours in this airlock as the pressures were adjusted before they met.
Yes, but then again that wasn't a historical Apollo capsule - in this timeline, Apollo flew 75 missions and they may have moved to an oxygen/nitrogen atmosphere at 1 atm during one of the Block upgrades, to ease up on logistics during lunar surface stays.
Apollo ran a 4 psi pure oxygen atmosphere. Soyuz runs a 14.7 psi oxygen nitrogen mix. Apollo is incapable of withstanding 14.7 psi (because of structural design limits in the Lunar Module). Reducing pressure reduces structural weight. Running pure oxygen grossly simplified life support and reduces its weight too.
@@xxfalconarasxx5659 I agree. We even see in an earlier episode, with Deke and Ellen in the CSM (Apollo 24, I think?), where there is a good view of the instrument panel that their onboard computer was significantly more modernized, showing a screen that could display much more than just a few numbers, so it's logical to assume that the Apollo spacecraft in this timeline were significantly upgraded over time. I'd love to read a good timeline of the upgrades, it would be a nice bit of background lore.
Thank god the Soyuz-Apollo docking inspired the president and Russia to back down and not deliver nuclear armageddon. And with the S3 trailer, we now have Mars missions!
this might have easied up a "few" things for my generation, had this happend, and the early to mid 90s would've dealt with the shit we're now having to deal with. Maybe it could of made the 10s and early 20s of the 21st centruy a bit less of a shitstorm. Or it could've bread even more extremist for both sides making it even more hectic then it already is
@@johnhenrymills4517 I know it did, I'm talking about the fact that an African American woman is representing the United states in this one. While yes, there where notable African Americans and women that did great things across that decade this would be something that'll most definitely mentioned and remembered for many people for far longer
@@Terranallias18 Cheer for the real life one. Everyone should know the name of Lt. Colonel Stanislav Petrov. Petrov was an officer on duty at a secret command centre south of Moscow when an chilling alarm went off signalling that the United States had launched intercontinental ballistic missiles carrying nuclear warheads. Petrov was faced with a choice, report the alarm to his superiors and potentially start a nuclear war leading to the end of the world OR bank on it being a false alarm. Heroically and following his gut instinct, he decided to ignore the signal and hope it was a mistake. He later said: "I categorically refused to be guilty of starting World War 3." "I felt like I was being led to an execution," he said. This absolute hero lived in a small town outside Moscow and died in relative obscurity in 2017 aged 77. His death only made headlines months later when a German friend wrote a blog post in tribute to him, telling the story of how one man saved the world from nuclear annihilation.
This is pure Hollywood bullshit. First of all, there is no way that the tubby Capcom is an astronaut, and Capcom’s are always astronauts. Secondly, the flight director has the absolute last word pertaining to a mission. If the flight director would give a direct order to terminate a flight there is no way that a mission commander would refuse. To do so would be the end of that astronaut’s career. It just wouldn’t happen. This flight of a joint American/Russian rondevous in space actually occurred in June 1975. The American mission commander was a three mission space veteran by the name of Brigadier General Thomas Stafford. And yes he was a white man.
[This is pure Hollywood bullshit. First of all, there is no way that the tubby Capcom is an astronaut, and Capcom’s are always astronauts.] No, not always. Not even on nominal missions, rather than ones with a hastily assembled skeleton crew resulting from a nuclear strike threat over Houston. [Secondly, the flight director has the absolute last word pertaining to a mission. If the flight director would give a direct order to terminate a flight there is no way that a mission commander would refuse. To do so would be the end of that astronaut’s career. It just wouldn’t happen.] So how would the flight director enforce an order if the astronauts *did* chose to ignore it, like what happened on Apollo 7 and Skylab 4? Send space police to arrest them? Oh wait look, I just mentioned two cases when the things you said would NEVER happen...happened :D [This flight of a joint American/Russian rondevous in space actually occurred in June 1975. The American mission commander was a three mission space veteran by the name of Brigadier General Thomas Stafford. And yes he was a white man.] In this timeline, Danielle Poole was a spaceflight veteran as well. And "Brigadier General" isn't a name. (Nor his actual rank, he wasn't a general during ASTP)
@@paulzuk1468 If you would study a little history you could answer your own questions. What could a flight director do with an insubordinate mission commander? Precious little. But once the crew returned? Apollo 7 now that you mention it, is perfect example. Mission commander Wally Schirra has already announced that he would be retiring after Apollo 7, so he didn't really care about consequences. As for Donn Eisele and Walt Cunningham, Kris Craft, Director of the Manned spacecraft Center declared that Eisle and Cunningham would fly again "over his dead body" They never flew in space again .Ditto the crew of Skylab 4. Gerald Carr, Ed Gibson, and Gerald Pogue could have had the option to stick around for The Space Shuttle, but after the "mutiny" on Skylab, their space travel careers were over. The point is, insubordination is not acceptable. Ever. i mention Stafford's rank, because Stafford was the first officer of star rank to fly in space, and to the best of my knowledge, he is still the only one to do so.
@@olentangy74 So what is your problem, exactly? You acknowledge space mutinies did happen, you acknowledge there's not a damn thing ground controllers could've done about it, so...what are you complaining about?
@@olentangy74 And I don't disagree that it *could* in fact end her career, but you also said, quote: "If the flight director would give a direct order to terminate a flight there is no way that a mission commander would refuse." Calling it, and I also quote: "[...]pure Hollywood bullshit." ...that the show portrayed such a refusal. How can it be "pure Holywood bullshit" if it actually happened in reality? Also the vaguely chauvinistic personal attacks were uncalled for, but whatever floats your boat.
Could it be even more of an insult to women’s lib when you over-do the amount of women in commanding leadership roles in a sci-fi/historical/drama We get it👍 women can do what men can do... Jesus H🙄 This would have been a great show if it had Stayed true to what actually happened up to now. It truly is a magnificent story without all the added fiction. Once again, our actual history isn’t good enough. Thank god we have show runners willing to take a huge dump on actual people and their actual achievements in time honored fashion SO we the people with the mental incapacity for Our History can veg-out in front of our flat screens stuffing our faces with junk food, soda, and inaccurate concocted bullshit story’s with complete satisfaction in knowing that we today will never come close to accomplishing what the men and women of Apollo achieved. I believe that these show runners should commit themselves, before their time in this industry is out, to achieving the goal of telling the genuine stories of History In confident detail and returning the honor and respect safely to the Apollo Program. If you are not capable of being satisfied with that sort of work then don’t hijack a story. Leave it to a more honorable person in your profession.
Gawd, there's an entire high-budget miniseries that deals with Apollo in painstakingly exacting detail. But I hear you - I, too, don't want to ever watch anything except for stuff that really happened and was already documented two billion times :D Alternate histories of the space program are a huge thing in space circles for a reason. "What ifs" make us connect with actual history and think about possible futures in a way that simply reading Apollo Experience Reports for the 120th time can't do.
@@NuclearMex i think it's more of the constant "I'm a woman and I'm doing everything better than men" that is being portrayed too much. It feels to cliche to the point where it almost feels forced. To me it's not bothering me, it's still good writing, but I also understand that the "powerful woman" cliche is in your face too much, belittling the man.
@@NuclearMex I feel like it's kind of good because it's a new thing that women are experiencing, which means that movies will feel more realistic with feelings and ideas of both sexes.
First, the show is specifically advertised as being alternate history, namely what would maybe happen if the Soviets had beat the US to the first manned moon landing. From the start, it was intended as alternate history. Second, this clip is based on the real life 1975 Apollo Soyuz Test Program. While the docking was not delayed in any way in real life, it pretty much happened exactly as the show portrayed it.
The wimmin in this show talk a bit too much like 2010ish feminists. They all appear a bit to angry for the time compared to the men. Maybe someone should tell them to smile :D
@@burgerlord2488 I love that scene where so Poole gives some of her late husbands items to his sister and the sister bitches her out for being a black women in NASA. Instead of writing the character as a victim they write her going back to NASA to get her own mission as commander.
Am I the only one who iss insulted by this infantile presumption of a film? I'm speaking on behalf of Real history, which is impactful and edifying in its own right.
You haven't watched the show for the context. This is the last episode of the second season of a show based in an alternate timeline were the Soviet Union were the first on the moon, a lot has happened.
@@Jogeta5 you're talking about a pre-determined plot for a tv show. I'm talking about a proper homage for the greatest adventure of our times. This undermines and cheapens the REAL achievement and wonder of the actual expedition to the moon. There are a lot of young people who weren't around then..."I" WAS. These kids are going to look back at those grainy NASA footages and say "meh" out of pure boredom. What's the point of a scenario about the Soviets getting to the moon first, if the upshot of all that is cheap confrontations and, Jesus, gunplay on the lunar surface?!
@@bryanttillman Of course I am, this TV show is about a what if. Many people have contemplated on what could of happened if Apollo was never cancelled and instead expanded. This show has more melodrama than it needs really, but this series was never about our actual history of the space program. I think there are series already made on that. Though as far as I know, they don't have the budget of this Apple TV series, unfortunately. Far too many people care very little about space. I'm hoping that's about to change in the next several years.
@@bryanttillman Quite the contrary. The first season of the show actually made me appreciate mankind's race to the stars even more than I already did. Even though I was born long after the moon landing, seeing the reveal of the Soviet cosmonaut planting their flag on the moon was like a shot in the heart to me.
I'm 58 years old now, the real Soyuz-Apollo mission happened when I was 12 (1975) and I remember it as well as most of the space race of the late 60's through the 1990's shuttle missions (I saw Challenger live on TV in 1986, I will never forget it). I know this show is fictional but based on some real events in history, but moments like this scene remind me that NASA is an agency that needs to be funded properly and continue on. The advances in technology that came out of that era have given modern society so much. Also, it helped to ease tensions between the super powers at that time.
Instead of working towards the stars, humanity have done the opposite working inwards towards personal entertainment technology like making smaller handphones with more cameras and processing power 😂
@@AC-iz7eh Yeah, today's Phones have like umphteen thousand times the computing power of the apollo computers and a single phone could probably have handled every single aspect of the apollo missions (including all of mission control) all by itself.
And this is the mission deke got his vindication after 16 years or helping others go space he got to himself
I was 4 yrs old & I remember watching it with my parents. I can’t remember what I ate yesterday but I sure as hell remember this.
Proof that we can work together as a team
Apollo-Soyuz: "We came in peace for all mankind."
Role credits
That was on the plaque left on the Moon by Gene Cernan and Harrison Schmidt on Apollo 17, the last lunar mission.
Daym
i just wish we would unite and go humanity fuck yeah mode to expolore space and creating technological wonders 😅
Iknow its silly dream🙈
Lets continue fighting for stupid reason
"three times a night"
What we are not shown is what must have been the absolute hell given to the Soviet crew by their own ground control. They landed as heroes for sure, but at immense risk at first.
Thankfully, for the human race, there have been people like that at key moments. Everyone should know the name of Lt. Colonel Stanislav Petrov. Petrov was an officer on duty at a secret command centre south of Moscow when an chilling alarm went off signalling that the United States had launched intercontinental ballistic missiles carrying nuclear warheads. Petrov was faced with a choice, report the alarm to his superiors and potentially start a nuclear war leading to the end of the world OR bank on it being a false alarm. Heroically and following his gut instinct, he decided to ignore the signal and hope it was a mistake. He later said: "I categorically refused to be guilty of starting World War 3." "I felt like I was being led to an execution," he said. This absolute hero lived in a small town outside Moscow and died in relative obscurity in 2017 aged 77. His death only made headlines months later when a German friend wrote a blog post in tribute to him, telling the story of how one man saved the world from nuclear annihilation.
You know this is fictionalized, it’s not how it really happened, right?
@@outerrealm Yea, and fiction has stories. What are you missing?
they also risked coming down to a radiactive wasteland instead of a home.
@@outerrealm
They never said this was real, what is your point?
I understand Houston's decision. Given that it's a stupid-ass decision, I've decided to ignore it.
@RicketyEdge Damn. That's cold. But still, kudos
@@ReadmanJ same thing happened early on with the space station, the crew had to work long hours every single day and they got annoyed and took a day off and all of them were grounded.
@@ReadmanJ and they didn't get the distinguished service medal until 40 years later and when 2 of the crew had already died
@@MrJacobrezac (space lab, not ISS)
@@Philly_Willy actually it was Skylab.
Margo must feel a measure of Pride seeing Aleida working Capcom
It truly was a moment of pride
"The airlock is repressurised, they made it back."
Those who don't know: 😀
Those who know: 💀
Soyuz 11
Those who don’t know: 😀
Those who know: 💀
I don't get it?
@@insertsomethingfuni2617 big spoilers, you'll find out eventually
@@spacedude30001 I'm pretty sure it was another episode lol
@@spacedude30001 it about Gordo and Tracy Stevens.
2:50This was the part that scared the shit out of me, half expecting the soviets to come out guns blazing and ruining everything.
Moment is ruined anyway since everyone was in their bunkers/cellar hiding left and right. Well, at least the president saw.
@@ShadowIsatis Only those in that part of the country
I figured if the Soviets were willing to go through with the docking then chances were the interaction would have been friendly
am i the only one who was expecting to see the double flash of a nuclear bomb during the sirens?
I was fairly certain the last scene would be Dani watching the world end from space
Given RDM is involved...I expected a Basestar to jump in and start dumping nukes.
i thought that 2
i thought that russia decleared ww3.the series was based during the cold war era after all
@@connarcomstock161 and so the cycle begins again
‘Come back, Apollo, didn’t hear you’
‘You did’
This is by far the best scene of the episode
Worst scene of all series...
@@stefdav4959 the worst scene of the series is Ed’s weird fishing bar attempt at sex
"...but I speak for the President in this room and I think one good thing should happen on this shitty day." - it's my favorite line of the season, especially since it was delivered with absolute PERFECTION.
@@stefdav4959 I think we all know what the worst scene in the series is... that which must not be named.
@@topphatt1312Margot doing math and eating Tootsie rolls? jk jk but what is it?
This show never needs to end
People seem to have a lot of trouble grasping the fact that this show is an alternate history
Unfortunately the reality of the show is so much better than real life.
I think that I'm ok with that.
It seems a lot easier to say we're just adding a new module on Jamestown than it is to say we're building a moonbase.
One of the things they seem to be ignoring is the reason for the large Apollo Soyuz Docking Adapter is that the Apollo and Soyuz have different atmospheric pressures and air mixtures. The ASDA served as an airlock and the crews had to undergo a complicated and long process to transfer to the other capsules environment or the astronauts and cosmonauts would get the bends. They would NEVER have both capsule hatches open at the same time.
That's a fair point, but I personally am willing to let it go because the scene is otherwise a wonderful work of cinematography. I love scenes in movies and TV where an epic gesture of peace is made
In the series there was an engineer team specially assigned to the task of docking both vessels, it makes sense that they would fix the gas composition problem along other things.
this also happens 8 years further along than the real docking; it's possible these issues may have been resolved (for example by matching the pressures and mixtures for these specific craft)
@@maxisalamone in real history there was also a fairly large engineering team assigned to the project. Reality is that trying to adapt Soyuz to a low pressure 100% oxygen atmosphere or Apollo to a close to standard atmospheric pressure oxygen-nitrogen mixed gas system would entail a complete rebuild of each capsule. The air lock docking system built for ASTP was the solution.
You must be fun at comedy shows.
In the real soyez-appolo since both spacecraft used different air systems the 2 of the crew moved to the adapter l, closed the hatch between the adapter and Apollo, then opened the hatch to the soyez command module
And that was the last flight of Molly pool as a nasa astronaut
you mean Dani Poole
Worth it
@@dragoninthewest1 whatever her name is giving attitude and disobeying nasa ground control will get you a one way flight to your ass getting kicked out of the program
@@herberttorojr7640 Not necessarily out of the program, astronauts have a lot of groundside duties ; Some of these duties even need this kind of attitude.
It's not even clear that they'd ground her, since in the end the docking was authorized by the acting NASA administrator and the president loved it, so...
@@herberttorojr7640 Lol, if you still haven't noticed by now, this show isn't really reflective of real life. That girl literally gave the director of JSA the middle finger and she is still around. Yeah, I highly doubt it.
Man, if only space stuff could change on a whim like that.
It will when we begin to master spaceflight; we’re still in our infancy.
@@Zacharysharkhazard StarShip would beg to differ.
@@willllllll1-u8p Zack has still got a point. As Advanced as Starship is, that’s the beginning. Once we can use space to move people between different planets, that’s when I’d say it’s more mature.
It could have, that's why they were careful with psychological profiling to filter that out.
I love how bill is snapping his fingers a 100 times a second cause she said negative
2:19 Lyrics:
well well well....
-AAAAHHww
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-
WEAAAHHW!
WEAHW!
*WEEEAAHH!
U deserve alot of likes
what song is it?
Edit: is well well well, by John lennon
I like how there's also 2nd side to soyouz-apollo plot
they were just waiting in orbit all the while knowing that US entered defcon 2 and earth was at brink of nuclear war, in alternattive-alternative-timeline they would be docked together as joined mission in space while looking as their repective countries descent into nuclear war leaving them wasteland planet to land in
Danielle Poole is such an awesome character.
The reality was rather different they had to have a decompression airlock between the 2 so they didn't get the bends due to different pressures used by US and USSR in the capsules after Apollo 1 fire.
They had to wait hours in this airlock as the pressures were adjusted before they met.
Yes, but then again that wasn't a historical Apollo capsule - in this timeline, Apollo flew 75 missions and they may have moved to an oxygen/nitrogen atmosphere at 1 atm during one of the Block upgrades, to ease up on logistics during lunar surface stays.
Maybe, but presumably, this alternate history Soyuz-Apollo craft is probably designed a little different. Maybe both sides have similar air pressure.
Apollo ran a 4 psi pure oxygen atmosphere. Soyuz runs a 14.7 psi oxygen nitrogen mix.
Apollo is incapable of withstanding 14.7 psi (because of structural design limits in the Lunar Module). Reducing pressure reduces structural weight. Running pure oxygen grossly simplified life support and reduces its weight too.
@@xxfalconarasxx5659 I agree. We even see in an earlier episode, with Deke and Ellen in the CSM (Apollo 24, I think?), where there is a good view of the instrument panel that their onboard computer was significantly more modernized, showing a screen that could display much more than just a few numbers, so it's logical to assume that the Apollo spacecraft in this timeline were significantly upgraded over time. I'd love to read a good timeline of the upgrades, it would be a nice bit of background lore.
"This is for real?"
"It's about to be."
FUCK YEAH.
This was basically the Cuban Missile crisis in space.
If there’s a war then I’m not going to be the one who starts it. That’s what I would say
Thank god the Soyuz-Apollo docking inspired the president and Russia to back down and not deliver nuclear armageddon. And with the S3 trailer, we now have Mars missions!
the first black female astronaut was mae jemison. her first flight was in 1992
this is alternate history.
This is the probably the best sci-fi TV show after The Expanse.
IS THE BEST
this might have easied up a "few" things for my generation, had this happend, and the early to mid 90s would've dealt with the shit we're now having to deal with. Maybe it could of made the 10s and early 20s of the 21st centruy a bit less of a shitstorm. Or it could've bread even more extremist for both sides making it even more hectic then it already is
This did happen. The real Soyuz-Apollo mission happened in 1975
@@johnhenrymills4517 I know it did, I'm talking about the fact that an African American woman is representing the United states in this one. While yes, there where notable African Americans and women that did great things across that decade this would be something that'll most definitely mentioned and remembered for many people for far longer
Dispite being enemies Its still heart warming
She’s definitely has the makings of the first woman on mars
Space shall unite us.
Hey that soviet cosmonaut is Yuri from stranger things!
"well well well" (John Lennon).
My most favourite scene in the entire series
2:56 Salvete, viator conservis autem astra.
Salve
Surely, you meant to say Apollo-Soyuz
In this timeline, the Soviets demanded it be called Soyuz-Apollo as to not make the Soviets look like the lesser force.
@@Skive_67 I know bro, I'm just joking
@@danielalasoo2930 Ah, alright.
@@Skive_67 Reagan referred to it as apollo-soyuz, "Ellen, about this Apollo-soyuz business".
@@dragoninthewest1 Isn't that to be expected? The Americans would call it Apollo-Soyuz to themselves.
I love discount Jodi Foster.
What did Poole say in russian?
Chris Kraft would have lost his mind at that refusal
3:40 But why air raid alarms?
The soviets move their fleet near US borders with nuclear capabilities and there was the threated of being turned into dust.
@@alvarogarriguez6165 And thus no one can see this moment on TV(?)
Whats the song
Any one know the song when they dock
If the nukes were never launched, why sound the attack warning siren? You'd only sound the sirens if the nukes were confirmed to be on their way.
It’s a precautionary measure ‘cause there was a soviet fleet dangerously close to the us.
@@1doob There's a russian fleet near the US right now, we're not sounding the sirens over it
@@sargentshadow ok.
And her decision to ignore the order save the world.
Yas! Slay queen! Praise the fictional character in a fictional scenario!
@@zoch9797 And why is that a bad thing? Are we not supposed to cheer for our heroes when they suceed?
@@Terranallias18 Cheer for the real life one. Everyone should know the name of Lt. Colonel Stanislav Petrov. Petrov was an officer on duty at a secret command centre south of Moscow when an chilling alarm went off signalling that the United States had launched intercontinental ballistic missiles carrying nuclear warheads. Petrov was faced with a choice, report the alarm to his superiors and potentially start a nuclear war leading to the end of the world OR bank on it being a false alarm. Heroically and following his gut instinct, he decided to ignore the signal and hope it was a mistake. He later said: "I categorically refused to be guilty of starting World War 3." "I felt like I was being led to an execution," he said. This absolute hero lived in a small town outside Moscow and died in relative obscurity in 2017 aged 77. His death only made headlines months later when a German friend wrote a blog post in tribute to him, telling the story of how one man saved the world from nuclear annihilation.
Wait tf that ending
КАЗАХСТАН 🇰🇿 УГРОЖАЕТ ⚠️ НАМ БОМБАРДИРОВКОЙ 💣
rewatching this clip I see while " the catch" is what made Ellen famous this decision is what led to her being POTAS
Someone is gonna get angry down there .
They can pound dirt! 😂
she is doing it for her own glory
An astronaut? Seeking glory? Hot damn, this NEVER happened! :P
I'm sure there were all these women in the room and on the craft in real life 😅
Better balanced in seasons 3 and 4.
The Danielle Poole story arc was pointless compared to Cobb or Wilson.
ah rick how nice to see you here
Wrong
*Good thing the actual, historical Apollo-Soyouz only employed qualified astronauts and mission control personnel, based on MERIT and COMPETENCE*
Pretty sure this one did as well
Are you trying to imply the black girl isn’t a competent astronaut? Get bent.
@@Zacharysharkhazard N
based
I mean, they are all astronauts. One went to the moon, one orbital (I believe, he's a new one off)
Ehhhh , excuse me , but this is not how space flights work,
Fun fact: It DID happen in real life, in 1975, when Soyuz and Apollo docked
This is based on a real space mission, and it worked.....so I guess you know nothing about space flights?
This series should be called "For all woke mankind"!
...what?
Then don't watch
...what
What
This is pure Hollywood bullshit. First of all, there is no way that the tubby Capcom is an astronaut, and Capcom’s are always astronauts.
Secondly, the flight director has the absolute last word pertaining to a mission. If the flight director would give a direct order to terminate a flight there is no way that a mission commander would refuse. To do so would be the end of that astronaut’s career. It just wouldn’t happen.
This flight of a joint American/Russian rondevous in space actually occurred in June 1975. The American mission commander was a three mission space veteran by the name of Brigadier General Thomas Stafford. And yes he was a white man.
[This is pure Hollywood bullshit. First of all, there is no way that the tubby Capcom is an astronaut, and Capcom’s are always astronauts.]
No, not always. Not even on nominal missions, rather than ones with a hastily assembled skeleton crew resulting from a nuclear strike threat over Houston.
[Secondly, the flight director has the absolute last word pertaining to a mission. If the flight director would give a direct order to terminate a flight there is no way that a mission commander would refuse. To do so would be the end of that astronaut’s career. It just wouldn’t happen.]
So how would the flight director enforce an order if the astronauts *did* chose to ignore it, like what happened on Apollo 7 and Skylab 4? Send space police to arrest them?
Oh wait look, I just mentioned two cases when the things you said would NEVER happen...happened :D
[This flight of a joint American/Russian rondevous in space actually occurred in June 1975. The American mission commander was a three mission space veteran by the name of Brigadier General Thomas Stafford. And yes he was a white man.]
In this timeline, Danielle Poole was a spaceflight veteran as well. And "Brigadier General" isn't a name.
(Nor his actual rank, he wasn't a general during ASTP)
@@paulzuk1468 If you would study a little history you could answer your own questions.
What could a flight director do with an insubordinate mission commander? Precious little. But once the crew returned? Apollo 7 now that you mention it, is perfect example.
Mission commander Wally Schirra has already announced that he would be retiring after Apollo 7, so he didn't really care about consequences.
As for Donn Eisele and Walt Cunningham, Kris Craft, Director of the Manned spacecraft Center declared that Eisle and Cunningham would fly again "over his dead body"
They never flew in space again .Ditto the crew of Skylab 4. Gerald Carr, Ed Gibson, and Gerald Pogue could have had the option to stick around for The Space Shuttle, but after the "mutiny" on Skylab, their space travel careers were over.
The point is, insubordination is not acceptable. Ever. i mention Stafford's rank, because Stafford was the first officer of star rank to fly in space, and to the best of my knowledge, he is still the only one to do so.
@@olentangy74 So what is your problem, exactly? You acknowledge space mutinies did happen, you acknowledge there's not a damn thing ground controllers could've done about it, so...what are you complaining about?
@@paulzuk1468 The point I was making is that it would be the end of her career. Do you enjoy being thick and obtuse?
@@olentangy74 And I don't disagree that it *could* in fact end her career, but you also said, quote:
"If the flight director would give a direct order to terminate a flight there is no way that a mission commander would refuse."
Calling it, and I also quote:
"[...]pure Hollywood bullshit."
...that the show portrayed such a refusal.
How can it be "pure Holywood bullshit" if it actually happened in reality?
Also the vaguely chauvinistic personal attacks were uncalled for, but whatever floats your boat.
It's so dumb, never an astronaut would disobey a direct order
Highly unlikely, but not impossible
They would and they did at least twice
@@paulzuk1468 Read my previous post.
Astronauts do disobey orders occasionally. Super intelligent people usually know what’s up.
I mean there have been instances of it happening, such as on Apollo 7
Could it be even more of an insult to women’s lib when you over-do the amount of women in commanding leadership roles in a sci-fi/historical/drama
We get it👍 women can do what men can do...
Jesus H🙄
This would have been a great show if it had Stayed true to what actually happened up to now. It truly is a magnificent story without all the added fiction.
Once again, our actual history isn’t good enough. Thank god we have show runners willing to take a huge dump on actual people and their actual achievements in time honored fashion SO we the people with the mental incapacity for Our History can veg-out in front of our flat screens stuffing our faces with junk food, soda, and inaccurate concocted bullshit story’s with complete satisfaction in knowing that we today will never come close to accomplishing what the men and women of Apollo achieved.
I believe that these show runners should commit themselves, before their time in this industry is out, to achieving the goal of telling the genuine stories of History In confident detail and returning the honor and respect safely to the Apollo Program.
If you are not capable of being satisfied with that sort of work then don’t hijack a story. Leave it to a more honorable person in your profession.
Gawd, there's an entire high-budget miniseries that deals with Apollo in painstakingly exacting detail. But I hear you - I, too, don't want to ever watch anything except for stuff that really happened and was already documented two billion times :D
Alternate histories of the space program are a huge thing in space circles for a reason. "What ifs" make us connect with actual history and think about possible futures in a way that simply reading Apollo Experience Reports for the 120th time can't do.
Could you explain again why you disliked the series?
@@NuclearMex i think it's more of the constant "I'm a woman and I'm doing everything better than men" that is being portrayed too much. It feels to cliche to the point where it almost feels forced. To me it's not bothering me, it's still good writing, but I also understand that the "powerful woman" cliche is in your face too much, belittling the man.
@@artozy4220 ah, I did not notice it.
@@NuclearMex I feel like it's kind of good because it's a new thing that women are experiencing, which means that movies will feel more realistic with feelings and ideas of both sexes.
hollywood history, AKA Bull $hit.
Did anyone claim it is supposed to be real history? Are you always this stupid?
First, the show is specifically advertised as being alternate history, namely what would maybe happen if the Soviets had beat the US to the first manned moon landing. From the start, it was intended as alternate history. Second, this clip is based on the real life 1975 Apollo Soyuz Test Program. While the docking was not delayed in any way in real life, it pretty much happened exactly as the show portrayed it.
The wimmin in this show talk a bit too much like 2010ish feminists.
They all appear a bit to angry for the time compared to the men.
Maybe someone should tell them to smile :D
Are you gay
A woke NASA 🤮 thank God it didn't happen that way
hahahaha, absolutely
Woke NASA? Bro putting a black woman in space isn't "woke". She passed the training and is a NASA veteran in this timeline.
Yeah minorities in space! Cringe. (I am being sarcastic$
@@burgerlord2488 I love that scene where so Poole gives some of her late husbands items to his sister and the sister bitches her out for being a black women in NASA. Instead of writing the character as a victim they write her going back to NASA to get her own mission as commander.
You are insane and a closeted homosexual
Is the whole series this woke?
What on earth is woke about this?
That's explained in season 1. Nixon wasn't happy, lol.
There's nothing woke in this scene, so yes.
How about the fact that they've got a freakin' moon outpost and we don't. That's what's worth complaining about.
Am I the only one who iss insulted by this infantile presumption of a film? I'm speaking on behalf of Real history, which is impactful and edifying in its own right.
You haven't watched the show for the context. This is the last episode of the second season of a show based in an alternate timeline were the Soviet Union were the first on the moon, a lot has happened.
@@Jogeta5 you're talking about a pre-determined plot for a tv show. I'm talking about a proper homage for the greatest adventure of our times. This undermines and cheapens the REAL achievement and wonder of the actual expedition to the moon. There are a lot of young people who weren't around then..."I" WAS. These kids are going to look back at those grainy NASA footages and say "meh" out of pure boredom.
What's the point of a scenario about the Soviets getting to the moon first, if the upshot of all that is cheap confrontations and, Jesus, gunplay on the lunar surface?!
@@bryanttillman
Of course I am, this TV show is about a what if. Many people have contemplated on what could of happened if Apollo was never cancelled and instead expanded.
This show has more melodrama than it needs really, but this series was never about our actual history of the space program. I think there are series already made on that. Though as far as I know, they don't have the budget of this Apple TV series, unfortunately.
Far too many people care very little about space. I'm hoping that's about to change in the next several years.
@@bryanttillman Quite the contrary. The first season of the show actually made me appreciate mankind's race to the stars even more than I already did. Even though I was born long after the moon landing, seeing the reveal of the Soviet cosmonaut planting their flag on the moon was like a shot in the heart to me.