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6-7grand is with it to me because you're getting a much more refined machine. I am at the point where I'm not interested in putting too much into my car anymore. I'm almost over the whole mod the crap out of your car stage. I want something built refined and will only need/want to do a few simple mods and be done. So for me plus having the nostalgic essence of a type-r being in my staple is always worth the price difference. Here in the states they have dropped in priced for barely used type-r's. Hell....I found a dealer selling brand new 18's for 36grand (U.S.). To have that piece of awesomeness in my staple is always worth it. (I just want going to pay over 40k before taxes and stuff).
I completely agree Kia is making some pretty awesome cars. First with the 2010 Optima sx (I own a 2012) then the stinger and the N. I think there really listening to people and making what we want.
@@mas921 90% of genesis coupes are in the hands of stance kids now unfortunately. It was a very capable car, but an all-together different beast than the Veloster. It had more influence of the Genesis product line than the Veloster. The previous gen late model (2015-ish) veloster turbos were great cars as well, slotting in somewhere between the Ford ST's as far as driving dynamics (imo).
Lets see i believe the N is 5 cheaper than the R, i rather pay 5k more for a R that is gonna be more reliable,better looking faster in every way and is gonna hold its value soooo much better than that pos hyundai.
Played out exactly how I expected, great comparison! The fact the the N is even being compared to the type R is impressive. I know I can't be the only one that wants more drag races in car comparisons! Make it happen straight pipes!
Its only being compared because theres so many dumb ppl that think thr N had a chance, ppl that actually race know this was stupid! And the N had no chance. Sorry to burst ur bubble
@@gigi9467 Its not like anyone thought it would win, it's more that the N is closer than expected. If I was looking at one of these cars I'd take the Type R because I like Honda, but I have to acknowledge how close the N is for a lot less money.
@Tristan Han Agree. It translates to about USD 5,000. With that amount of money, you can get the veloster and get a better engine. So yep.. that's not a small price..
Matt DeMatt bro u got the bettter car byyyyy far! I know your trying to be nice bout this N car has no business going head to head against a monster like the type r u own, am more if a muscle car fan now a days though i use to be all over the fwd honda integra etx, but anyways this type r is a beast this N are soo stupid conpared to a type r
@@gigi9467 I have rented the Mustang GT in Florida and the Dodge Charger Scat Pack in Kansas. Unfortunately there was nowhere to get the GT up to speed in Florida but the Charger was insane. So much power.
Matt DeMatt it is, mainly for me is the rear wheel drive platform in it although the R is the beat fwd u can buy i really wanted a rwd, my other option was a miata but am too big and the a86 stupid engine i dont trust.
@@gigi9467 I wanted a Miata and I still do but the reviews for the R were all so damn good. I looked at Porsches and too overpriced. BMW's... Too many expensive repairs. I had an Si and never ever had any issues so the R it was. I learned to drive on my Dad's 1952 MGTD and I was looking for that thrill again. You could fold down the front windshield on the MG. It was awesome.
Matt DeMatt type r is a good option best option for a hatchback, ill get a miata once am done paying this mustang off ill have to modify the seat i lik but it will be fun for the back roads
As much as I would love a Type R, I'm super super impressed that the N seems to be 95% of the car that the R is, at such a cheaper price. I'm picking up my N today and love that I can have as much fun in it as an R while saving a good chunk of cash.
I'd say more like 80 percent. In a bigger track or in a much longer straight the Veloster would struggle. Especially those brakes. I've yet to see the everyday track times of a Veloster match what a Type R can do. I'd love to see it run official time attack events like a lot of Hondas are doing for an even better comparison. Definitely a good effort by Hyundai. And they're running in TCR quite well too.
Type R wins hands down. -Honda much better resale value. -VN funky 3 door crap. -VN tight back seats -Type R much better seats and driving position -Type R much faster on road and track -Type R more comfortable ride -Type R way more room in the boot.
Just wanted to comment on the only 2 seconds faster. As an ex racer 2 seconds a lap is HUGE!! If you’re 2 second slower on race day you basically didn’t show up. You’re looking for hundredths of a second off your competition. If you’re counting in seconds you got big problems. Both look like a blast to drive and own but I wouldn’t say it’s close on a track. Well done as always gentlemen.
No, the real 4 door of the civic is what you want. That goofy 3 door is a pain in my freinds veloster. Getting to the kid in back from one side does not make sense.
Great use of the official Speed Academy test track, boys ;) Get your driving boots laced up tight, because our Miata is almost ready of an epic Speed Pipes battle!
100% agree. I love my Type R but like this Veloster N very much. I kinda wish Hyundai had pushed it to the 300hp mark and similar price point to really make things interesting.
For the difference in price, hyundai's first attempt at this, and the small gap in performance is very impressive. I wonder how a tune and a few extra pounds of boost would make the VN perform. And I would love to see times in the hands of pros for both cars too.
The interior of the n is horrible, your not going to be happy long. The zooming around is not going to hold your attention . The everyday drive and niceness of the r is miles ahead.
Yes an opinion. The veloster If truely is 7 k cheaper is a great car for the price. Would not of taken much to spruce up the inside . Not sure why as the Kia stinger inside is as nice as about any car.
@@gregblack8550 I owned a Veloster for over a year now and agree. I actually think Hyundai really dropped the ball with interior design even compared to it's prev. gen. It's actually worse than the Elantra's and if you don't have an VN, the Elantra GT is a more comfortable, classier and sportier drive. The Veloster should be 3-5K cheaper than it's current price with how much it doesn't have.
You guys are gonna fuckin love it. I've had mine for a few months now and I still drive around with a permanent grin. All the car kids around town will gawk at it and try to race lmao
I think at first the Civic looks really aggressive and like you modded it out yourself. After awhile though, I think I'd get tired of all of the "extraness" of the body, and would want to get something a lot more toned down. It's just too in your face.
I loved the drag race and the hot laps. It's pretty cool seeing this video because I actually drove on a track for the first time in a 997 at that track last weekend - it was the dream car experience thing they do there and was a present for my birthday. Love this channel and your reviews! (I'd take the Veloster btw)
Very excited to see more N! Might be trading my '15 Vel in for a '19 Turbo Ultimate soon (can't drive manual yet) but maybe when that lease is up I'll give it a go.
@@nguyyenhuy2705 Look I'm not a car expert or trained to spot engine behavior, etc. but cars these days are so computerized & high tech, they may have software to show if the data collected is consistent with track driving patterns or not? It's an assurance, peace of mind, to have track-covered warranty...if you do not have one, they'll do an investigation which creates unnecessary anxiety...and if they determine yes, then what? take them to court? also with a track-covered warranty, it covers aftermarket modifications...with type r obviously you're good with stock but if you want to upscale its performance, no coverage.
@@tk9839 even the computer show things, but how do they know you were driving it on the track ? You can say you were having fun on the back road and Im really sure that will still cover under warranty. Hyundai was smart for the track cover warranty because they know people would fall for that stupid track warranty but honestly, there are really no way to prove that you were driving on the track or on the road. Im still thinking I am right on this.
I think Yuri should give up finding a Prowler and just get a Veloster N already. I would if I was single and/or had less children. Pretty remarkable value.
Great video. I really liked this comparison. I would agree with the opinion of if you're in your 20s, single and don't track your car very often, go with the Veloster, but if you're a bit older, need the space and/or want to go to the track every so often, get the Civic. Greetings from Compton, CA, USA
I have to say, that you guys are really great while doing your reviews. And this track review is no different. I think the thing that I like from your reviews is that you two keep it real. Whenever I get asked about buying a vehicle, there are 3 things right off the top that I look for: how does it feel in your hands, how does it feel on your butt and how is it going to feel in your wallet. You guys cover those points extremely well. The chemistry of how you agree, disagree and agree to disagree is not pretentious but honest and respectful. Keep up the great work!
I think that we need to give the Veloster a great shotout because you know we are talking about that a car is been like what 40 to 50 years on the market against a car that is been only like 7 or 8 years and then they stop making production to improve it. I believe that the underdog Veloster takes the win.
I'll take the N. Mostly b/c I can't stand how the CTR looks, but also the whole N ethos is spot on. No heavy sunroof? Check. Leaving the name brands at the door? Check. I dig the three doors too. I'm buying a white one. Great content guys.
I bought my veloster N still warm from the factory and absolutely love it. Funnest car I've ever driven. I would also like to point out the fact that the veloster is built to take those corners much faster. It's definitely not a drag car with 6 second 0-60 but it has cornering technology the civic doesn't.. They're both great cars but the Veloster Raptor has unseen potential that will show up after some training.
@@jackson.2171 You sell it to buy something else. People who buy these brand new tend to keep them for 2-6 years and then sell them. In 2-6 years, the CTR will still be worth $6K more than the VN.
The Veloster N performance package is kinda halfway between the GTI/Si and the Golf R/Type R. It's a super impressive package for the price, and I love Hyundai for building it and it would be my choice between these two cars (I like the smaller size, lower price, and styling). Really looking forward to watching your summer hijinx guys!!!
Clearly the Hyundai has OEM the better sound, but the Type R has the much more better performance in every detail..., I go in Germany with the Type R for than 10.000 Miles with 350ps+, have installed the Remus excaust and the Carbon Eventuri intake, now there is definitely no sound problem, and the the I30n, that I like too, sounds a bit more softer ;=)....
Great video! One point I would like to add is that the CTR I believe is slightly better equipped - LED headlights vs halogen for instance. The Veloster also has a cheaper interior as mentioned in the road test video. I feel like these differences are easily worth around $3k.
The way I see, its not a "just" 6K, its 20% more expensive. If the cars were 100K VS 106K I would rate that 6K in a totally different way. When you plan buying a car, to pay 20% more of what you had planned, or to save 20% its a MEGA difference. I think many commenting are not buyers of 27K cars.
What subaruwrxsti300 said. You will get the 20% back with resale of the vehicle so its really a moot point to even make. Please do tell us, how is the market on 5,10, & 20 year old Hyundais?
@@brandnewty If you have extra money doing nothing yes. But most people dont. They would pay more monthly, more on interest and will make your life quite harder for the time... Sure the sell is over 20% different but not 6K different, its way less plus you loose on the interest..
@@helderp631 Most people today waste plenty of money they don't have, I don't know what you're talking about. The 6 K will come out at the sale of the car if not more. If you are concerned with the extra 1000 bucks interest, then maybe you are more concerned with budget than not having a shitty interior, having decent cargo room, 4 doors, etc. I actually use my Type R and the N just wouldn't cut it for me from a practical stand point. And did I mention that interior looks fucking dogshit cheap?
@@helderp631 What part of I actually use my Type R (For work, to make money) don't you understand? If 100 a month is going to make you bankrupt, this probably doesn't apply to you to begin with. Furthermore, I am wagering on Honda to provide a better long term product than Hyundai, as history has shown to be the case.
Two awesome cars, one awesome video. As a CTR owner I'm glad we have amazing options for cheap FWD performance. And to those who say FWD can't be fun, I say look at these two cars for proof of how fun they really can be.
Right-on brother! I am a N owner, and I love the CTR (except for the price tag, which where I am at is a good bit higher than MSRP.) Anyone who assumes front wheel drive cars can't be fun has definitely not driven either of these cars.
I dunno man. As an avid supporter of FWD cars and Hondas in general, the FK8 is too big for FWD fun. Does it haul ass? Definitely. Is it an engaging drive? I'm sure it is. However, I would say that the FK8 probably feels really numb if you compared it to say my 1996 DB8 Integra Type R. Even my 2001 DC5 Integra Type R felt pretty numb when compared to any of the '90s Hondas that I've owned. Then again, that was also what made me like that car so much. It was a much more refined and mature feeling car than the 1997 Civic Type R that I also owned at the time, but the poor build quality of the older Hondas translated to greater feedback through the chassis which is what made the Hondas so much fun to drive. You get extremely disconnected in the modern cars as they give piss poor feedback.
I honestly cannot make up my mind about these 2 cars. They each have their own styling nuances and the differences between configurability and power between the 2 are just too close to call in all categories. One ultra important figure will be longevity and cost-to-own as a daily driver over 3-5 years. Second will be the aftermarket community for Hyundai. Civic/Honda has a decades long cult-like following but Hyundai is relatively new in this space. So that will be very interesting to see! Great videos guys! Keep it up!
Great comparison. I really wish we were getting the Elantra (i30N). 5 doors with all the good stuff of the Veloster N. I just can't get over the CTR's styling. And with the price difference between the two, I think the Hyundai is a very good option. Plus a 10 year warranty!
It seems like this video finally stopped all the arguments on which is "better". Type R wins, but people finally be respecting that Veloster N. I want one
I test drove a white Veloster N, made up my mind Yes, and thought I could patiently wait for a blue one. There were so few of them around, unfortunately, and the closest one had a $5k mark up. GTFO. 2 weeks later I found a 2019 CTR in Sonic Gray at MSRP. It was an offer I couldn't refuse.
CTR is definitely worth it if those are your options. In my case, I was getting a N for over $2,000 under MSRP and CTRs were regularly $5,000+ over MSRP. Our differences in experiences goes to demonstrate how radically prices can vary by area.
Loved watching that. Was thinking about whether the Veloster N is worth upgrading to from an SI. It slots between my SI and the Type R. Hate to spend more money for less space, worse seats, worse mileage, and a worse interior. But- more power, more customization modes, rev match, and that sound. Hmmm...
I have a friend with an SI that drove my N and he's mind blown the N was " only like 2k" more than the the SI. He says had he known he probably would have gotten an N. It comes down to what's Important to you. I'd recommend test driving the N.
This was a good video. As a N owner and someone who has driven the CTR, I knew the CTR was a faster car (ones in my area are $15,000 more than the N...so it should be.) That said, I also knew the N was going to lay down insanely respectable numbers. For those who say, "it's still a Hyundai," they really should drive an N, as it is nothing like what Hyundai has made before. And yes, it is just about as fun to drive as the CTR, and a lot more fun to drive than other cars in this segment.
You guys are right behind top gear for videos I watch during the week. Yuri’s just like me for cars as hard as is to admit for me. Lol keep up the good work!
Great video! Loved the race track comparison. I would take any of the two cars. Then again won't really be a great option for Europe. The prices where I live (Denmark) is Honda: 111,500 CA$ and Hyundai: 85,107 CA$. So the Hyundai would be the choice moneywise
@@chickenbones Unfortunately you are reading correctly. There's taxes of 150% on cars in Denmark. So if you have a car in Denmark it cost 2.5 times the prices of the car value.
Hands down if i had the money I would civic type r. But the hyundai is more in my price range.If they make an elantra or elantra gt N that will for sure been my next car.
For 6 to 7 gran savings over the type R 🤔 i think hyundai needs to start selling N aftermarket products as they have performance parts for their race cars.. 4 gran in upgrades could make the N faster than the R and still save..
Good luck with those Continental tires you pictured in the video. I had them and they CANNOT take the heat from track I destroyed them at Cayuga & even though those tires look like track racing tires based on their website they are not & they denied me warranty. Dont waste your money, I picked up Hankook RS4 tires & are 10x better then those continentals.
I'd really like to see what the Veloster N can do with a little tune. Like obviously you can modify both cars but I'd be curious how they compare with even closer HP numbers. Would be a cool comparison
@@TheStraightPipes I am curious as to how I stack up with a $500 tuning module installed running about 4psi over stock boost. Want to know if that will come close to making up the difference on the straight. I am hitting up Shannonville Motorsports Park tonight and will report back :D
Annnnd, track conditions were pretty greasy as it rained all day. In the drag the wheel hop was pretty intense and my best times were with the suspension in normal. Best time I could post was 14.33 @ 101mph. On the bright side I did get a chance to beat a Type R quite badly. During lapping I got to experience the crazy amount of oversteer this fwd can produce. Even got a video of me spinning out in a right turn filmed from behind me and it seriously looks like rwd snap oversteer lol. What a super fun car though, had a blast :).
I think between the two, I'd take the Civic because a) The Honda brand stands out more to me and b) The resale value of the Civic is likely better. That said, if I was given one of the two, I'd take the Type R, sell it, and get a SI. The Type R has got to be a pain in the rear to keep clean with all the edges and cuts.
Fantastic video! The drone shots were superb. I really enjoyed the comparisons for tracking these cars, that $6000 would help pay for a lot of brakes and tires.
Track : Type R Road: i30N (because of the infotainment and exhaust) When are you guys coming to Munich ? I have a stinger gt with a loud sports exhaust 😎
Civic Type R hands down test drove the Veloster N and just didn't have it the CTR just nailed all the points for me so I just picked one up on the 20th and I Love it.
I wish they'd release the N here in the Philippines/Thailand faster, I'm dying to get one!! Import taxes would cost me +27k USD if I had one shipped earlier
As far as I know, Hyundai Philippines sells it for special orders. www.autodeal.com.ph/articles/car-news-philippines/philippine-spec-2019-hyundai-veloster-n-apparently-being-sold-locally
the cake is a lie Honestly we get a pretty good version, we just don’t have the LSD nor the active exhaust. Still worth it imo! Planning on purchasing one as well hehe
as I said in the last video, being almost as fast is not the only thing to consider when looking at the prices. Being 90-95% as fast does not make the veloster N a better choice because of a lower price. There are TONS of other things to consider when buying a car, most of which are not written some specification paper ! so, as I said before, will the Veloster N last as much as the Honda ? Will it drive the same in 15 years ? For how long can I push the engine, the brakes, the clutch, without them overheating or even failing ? What aftermarket parts will be available for each car ? How upgradable will the engine be ? Not to mention stuff you already talked about.. Like interior, space, etc. Those are all KEY factors of almost any Honda vehicle up until now. That's what you pay. Quality of parts. Well-thought engineering. (+) this is a very small track and 2 seconds are kinda of a big difference.
You save 6-7k. You don't void your warranty for tracking your car. You get said warranty for longer. I honestly don't see how a car that gets its warranty voided for tracking it somehow a better "track car"
I like both these cars, but I'm buying an R. If you're on a budget, the N makes sense, but for me the R is just more practical. More interior space, 4 doors, will hold value better, and addresses the performance/fun to drive aspect more than amply IMO for a street car. I also have an E92 M3 and a B9 S4, but I don't really enjoy daily driving the S4 so much so I'm giving it to the wife and that's why I'm looking at the R - it can fit my kids, or take the dogs if I fold the seats down, and it gives me a nice contrast in aesthetics compared to my M3. I think overall the R as a street car that you can occasionally take to the track is the most compelling story, compared to the N.
Veloster N for sure and as Yuri said mainly due to the value for the performance factor. Both are great cars but I would take that trade. Just like currently I am driving the new 2019 VW Jetta S with manual and even though I test drove the Jetta GLI version and the GTI Golf really did enjoy the extra performance just not enough to get me out of the Veloster N. Plus they do have the best in class interior space however the fun is somewhat muted by the boring exhaust note and heaver weight and feel. Perfect if you do want more luxury in your compact car and the Jetta and Golf back seats are very large, the Jetta can seat a 6' 2" man without hitting anything. So when I get a bit further in my current lease I am going to look into swapping out for the Veloster N sometime soon. Excellent video and thank you for the awesome reviews.
@AlasTVRisHere regarding Tracks that obviously a trade off. But If you are looking for Something less boy-racer than the civic for everyday driving, the Fastback N is what i would get
Gr8 & fun review! As a former track junkie, I would save the $6 and go for the Veloster... because you will NEVER leave well enough alone. Without doubt, you'll improve either car you own :-) Of course the $6k will go a long way toward excellent brakes ans Track Wheels and Tires. A WIN for Veloster.
I wish Hyundai put the heated seats and steering wheel in the US market version. Still take it over the Type R any day but would be nice to see even more value.
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N for the money. I just dislike the look of the civic.
Yeah, N for the money. CTR looks too boy racer-ish. If it looked like prev. gen CTR then it would be a different story.
6-7grand is with it to me because you're getting a much more refined machine. I am at the point where I'm not interested in putting too much into my car anymore. I'm almost over the whole mod the crap out of your car stage. I want something built refined and will only need/want to do a few simple mods and be done. So for me plus having the nostalgic essence of a type-r being in my staple is always worth the price difference. Here in the states they have dropped in priced for barely used type-r's. Hell....I found a dealer selling brand new 18's for 36grand (U.S.). To have that piece of awesomeness in my staple is always worth it. (I just want going to pay over 40k before taxes and stuff).
Yes
Veloster N!!
I just love that Hyundai came out of nowhere with these fantastic N cars! Definitely rooting for the underdog :)
KONRAD Not for soccer moms dude. These things are pretty small, compared to something like a Golf or Civic.
I completely agree Kia is making some pretty awesome cars. First with the 2010 Optima sx (I own a 2012) then the stinger and the N. I think there really listening to people and making what we want.
Out of no where? "What is Genesis Coupe?" 😈
@@mas921 90% of genesis coupes are in the hands of stance kids now unfortunately. It was a very capable car, but an all-together different beast than the Veloster. It had more influence of the Genesis product line than the Veloster. The previous gen late model (2015-ish) veloster turbos were great cars as well, slotting in somewhere between the Ford ST's as far as driving dynamics (imo).
mas921 they should do a mashup veloster N vs genesis coupe. The genesis coupe wouldn’t hold a candle stock around a track to a veloster N.
Yeah the Civic is obviously the better performance machine but the N is an INSANE deal.
flopkin guess you could say....it’s an NSANE deal......ok I’ll leave
Mohankeneh Omg I’m done lmao
@@Mohankeneh That's exactly what I had in mind for the vanity plate 😆 NSANE
Plus the N is covered under warranty if it breaks at the track.
Lets see i believe the N is 5 cheaper than the R, i rather pay 5k more for a R that is gonna be more reliable,better looking faster in every way and is gonna hold its value soooo much better than that pos hyundai.
For a hyundai came close with the type r, it's a remarkable achievement...
Hats off to hyundai..
Maddoxx x yes 🏆🏆🏆
Now put someone that can drive in the Velostar and see a better result.
Came close with less power
For a Type R to be faster than a Hyundai, is a shame to Hyundai
@@edwizard62 The type R would still reel it in due to power. I'm sure with just a tune it would take it though
Played out exactly how I expected, great comparison! The fact the the N is even being compared to the type R is impressive.
I know I can't be the only one that wants more drag races in car comparisons! Make it happen straight pipes!
Why would it, is about the same price in the same segment. What's with all this Hyundai dick sucking?
Its only being compared because theres so many dumb ppl that think thr N had a chance, ppl that actually race know this was stupid! And the N had no chance. Sorry to burst ur bubble
@@gigi9467 Its not like anyone thought it would win, it's more that the N is closer than expected. If I was looking at one of these cars I'd take the Type R because I like Honda, but I have to acknowledge how close the N is for a lot less money.
@Tristan Han Agree. It translates to about USD 5,000. With that amount of money, you can get the veloster and get a better engine. So yep.. that's not a small price..
@@disco.lemonade bro u stupid? Hyandai veloster n is around 6000 usd cheaper then type r
At least search on internet before saying something dude
I have the R and I love it. Kudos to Hyundai though for making a fun car and helping the whole market get better.
Matt DeMatt bro u got the bettter car byyyyy far! I know your trying to be nice bout this N car has no business going head to head against a monster like the type r u own, am more if a muscle car fan now a days though i use to be all over the fwd honda integra etx, but anyways this type r is a beast this N are soo stupid conpared to a type r
@@gigi9467 I have rented the Mustang GT in Florida and the Dodge Charger Scat Pack in Kansas. Unfortunately there was nowhere to get the GT up to speed in Florida but the Charger was insane. So much power.
Matt DeMatt it is, mainly for me is the rear wheel drive platform in it although the R is the beat fwd u can buy i really wanted a rwd, my other option was a miata but am too big and the a86 stupid engine i dont trust.
@@gigi9467 I wanted a Miata and I still do but the reviews for the R were all so damn good. I looked at Porsches and too overpriced. BMW's... Too many expensive repairs. I had an Si and never ever had any issues so the R it was. I learned to drive on my Dad's 1952 MGTD and I was looking for that thrill again. You could fold down the front windshield on the MG. It was awesome.
Matt DeMatt type r is a good option best option for a hatchback, ill get a miata once am done paying this mustang off ill have to modify the seat i lik but it will be fun for the back roads
As much as I would love a Type R, I'm super super impressed that the N seems to be 95% of the car that the R is, at such a cheaper price. I'm picking up my N today and love that I can have as much fun in it as an R while saving a good chunk of cash.
I want one, congratulations
But in the long run (10 years+) the R will have much more value. What do you drive? An R..nice!! What do you drive? An N....oh...
I think. Lol
@@alexvieira7945 all comes down to your personal enjoyment, not what it's worth in 10 years in my opinion lol
@@Overlord.gaming1 i guess. Lol.
I'd say more like 80 percent. In a bigger track or in a much longer straight the Veloster would struggle. Especially those brakes. I've yet to see the everyday track times of a Veloster match what a Type R can do. I'd love to see it run official time attack events like a lot of Hondas are doing for an even better comparison. Definitely a good effort by Hyundai. And they're running in TCR quite well too.
Type R wins hands down.
-Honda much better resale value.
-VN funky 3 door crap.
-VN tight back seats
-Type R much better seats and driving position
-Type R much faster on road and track
-Type R more comfortable ride
-Type R way more room in the boot.
Straight Academy.. nahhhh
Speed Pipes 👌
Hahaha 🔝👌
Speed pipes yesssss!!!
or straight academy? lol
These boys are sure AF not straight 😂
"Why are those fake vents pulling away from me so fast??" lmao!
Seriously tho
Lmao
Im really feelin that Veloster
Type r definitely faster, however this is the first time i want to buy a Korean sport car
Just wanted to comment on the only 2 seconds faster. As an ex racer 2 seconds a lap is HUGE!! If you’re 2 second slower on race day you basically didn’t show up. You’re looking for hundredths of a second off your competition. If you’re counting in seconds you got big problems. Both look like a blast to drive and own but I wouldn’t say it’s close on a track. Well done as always gentlemen.
That N is pure fire. I'd buy it if I were in the market for one. I'm more than happy with my MK7 GTI
Can’t go wrong with a GTi, especially the mk7. So much potential on stock block
I'll probably buy a used one in 4 years as a winter car lol. Throw a snowboard rack and some winters on that and go have some fun
@@maggartmotorsportandperfor4688 Do a Golf R instead so you can have some fun in the snow!
No, the real 4 door of the civic is what you want. That goofy 3 door is a pain in my freinds veloster. Getting to the kid in back from one side does not make sense.
@@gregblack8550 then use the side with the door lol. Sounds like a personal problem
As far as I know,
Hyundai will launch more N,
Tucson + i20 + Kona !
Good for u N lovers
Type R is a no brainer for me Both cars are capable track performer but the price difference is another story for buyers on budget Nice comparo review
Yay! Straight Pipes and Speed Acadamy crossover!
i dont get it. where was that part?
dvtc8u 0:20 in...
Best thing that has ever happened to the internet!
Already purchased the Veloster N with performance package in Performance Blue! It sounds so good and its a hell of a time to drive!!!
Great choice i say, im sure most commoners would choose the civic fake vents
@@Maddoxxx Pretty much the route people take due to not knowing what this car is or the fact it even exists!
@@orionmacy dude ran into a used Hyundai Veloster at a dealer and immediately grabbed it. They selling price is amazing and it comes with so much
Great use of the official Speed Academy test track, boys ;) Get your driving boots laced up tight, because our Miata is almost ready of an epic Speed Pipes battle!
Bwahahaha
Great video! I own a CTR and I love it. But I don't dislike the N. I'm just glad both these cars exist.
Yeah but still not enough lol we need more hot hatches.
SAME - and yes. More cars like this these are both awesome. But Type R for me.
The N is coming at a good time since Ford isn't bringing the next gen ST stateside.
In the same boat but opposite, I own the VN but am also a fan of the CTR. Great that the hot hatch is alive and well in North America.
100% agree. I love my Type R but like this Veloster N very much. I kinda wish Hyundai had pushed it to the 300hp mark and similar price point to really make things interesting.
Tell you what I think? I think *you guys* are the winners. This was on of your best videos yet!!!
These track videos are great, I'm excited to see how you improve.
For the difference in price, hyundai's first attempt at this, and the small gap in performance is very impressive. I wonder how a tune and a few extra pounds of boost would make the VN perform. And I would love to see times in the hands of pros for both cars too.
Mightyxenos true! Although Hyundai isn’t just trying, they’re hiring experienced designers and engineers from established brands
The interior of the n is horrible, your not going to be happy long. The zooming around is not going to hold your attention . The everyday drive and niceness of the r is miles ahead.
@@gregblack8550 It's your opignon, not our.
Yes an opinion. The veloster If truely is 7 k cheaper is a great car for the price. Would not of taken much to spruce up the inside . Not sure why as the Kia stinger inside is as nice as about any car.
@@gregblack8550 I owned a Veloster for over a year now and agree. I actually think Hyundai really dropped the ball with interior design even compared to it's prev. gen. It's actually worse than the Elantra's and if you don't have an VN, the Elantra GT is a more comfortable, classier and sportier drive. The Veloster should be 3-5K cheaper than it's current price with how much it doesn't have.
Just got my N today and its amazing!!!!!
I'm picking mine up after work, so excited 😁😁
You guys are gonna fuckin love it. I've had mine for a few months now and I still drive around with a permanent grin. All the car kids around town will gawk at it and try to race lmao
I got mine a few weeks ago and I love it.
Dudes it's so cool, what color did you guys get it?
@@theshiner69 cool story bro.
Great work you guys. Its entertaining and a nice change to see enthusiastic genuine guys having fun with cars without all the BS
As a Veloster Turbo owner myself, I gotta root for the N! Haha, sorry Honda!
I'd go for the N, if for no other reason than I'm not fond of the looks of the Civic. The lower cost just makes sense to me too.
I think at first the Civic looks really aggressive and like you modded it out yourself. After awhile though, I think I'd get tired of all of the "extraness" of the body, and would want to get something a lot more toned down. It's just too in your face.
Briguy1027 the R looks like it was modded by a 12 year old!
I loved the drag race and the hot laps. It's pretty cool seeing this video because I actually drove on a track for the first time in a 997 at that track last weekend - it was the dream car experience thing they do there and was a present for my birthday. Love this channel and your reviews! (I'd take the Veloster btw)
Absolutely nailed this comparison! Hoping for more similar reviews in the future.
Ok we will then
Very excited to see more N! Might be trading my '15 Vel in for a '19 Turbo Ultimate soon (can't drive manual yet) but maybe when that lease is up I'll give it a go.
SilentMoss once you understand how it works and practice a bit, it becomes second nature. Don’t fear the manual!
I bought a manual Mazda mx5 RF without knowing how to drive manual. Trust me you’ll get good.
When you do decide to learn manual, go for the Veloster. The manual has been described as excellent!
They expect automatic N this year (spy shots are taken)
@@HyosangAhn whooaaaa that's pretty wild. Maybe I'll sit on my decision a little longer.
In Australia the i30N's warranty isn't voided when used on a race track but the Tyre R is so that's a big decision there.
How do they know whether you take your car to track or not lol
@@nguyyenhuy2705 There are ways to know whether if you've taken your car to track or not...
@@tk9839 prove it then
@@nguyyenhuy2705 Look I'm not a car expert or trained to spot engine behavior, etc. but cars these days are so computerized & high tech, they may have software to show if the data collected is consistent with track driving patterns or not? It's an assurance, peace of mind, to have track-covered warranty...if you do not have one, they'll do an investigation which creates unnecessary anxiety...and if they determine yes, then what? take them to court? also with a track-covered warranty, it covers aftermarket modifications...with type r obviously you're good with stock but if you want to upscale its performance, no coverage.
@@tk9839 even the computer show things, but how do they know you were driving it on the track ? You can say you were having fun on the back road and Im really sure that will still cover under warranty. Hyundai was smart for the track cover warranty because they know people would fall for that stupid track warranty but honestly, there are really no way to prove that you were driving on the track or on the road. Im still thinking I am right on this.
I think Yuri should give up finding a Prowler and just get a Veloster N already. I would if I was single and/or had less children. Pretty remarkable value.
The Veloster is the-way-to-go when you have a kid and want a sporty car because of the 3 door design
the very first drag in this video showed the Type R driver react worse than the Hyundai driver.
Great video. I really liked this comparison. I would agree with the opinion of if you're in your 20s, single and don't track your car very often, go with the Veloster, but if you're a bit older, need the space and/or want to go to the track every so often, get the Civic.
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I have to say, that you guys are really great while doing your reviews. And this track review is no different. I think the thing that I like from your reviews is that you two keep it real. Whenever I get asked about buying a vehicle, there are 3 things right off the top that I look for: how does it feel in your hands, how does it feel on your butt and how is it going to feel in your wallet. You guys cover those points extremely well. The chemistry of how you agree, disagree and agree to disagree is not pretentious but honest and respectful. Keep up the great work!
Right on, thanks
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Going to chop a tree down.... Flamboyantly 😁
I think that we need to give the Veloster a great shotout because you know we are talking about that a car is been like what 40 to 50 years on the market against a car that is been only like 7 or 8 years and then they stop making production to improve it. I believe that the underdog Veloster takes the win.
I'll take the N. Mostly b/c I can't stand how the CTR looks, but also the whole N ethos is spot on. No heavy sunroof? Check. Leaving the name brands at the door? Check. I dig the three doors too. I'm buying a white one. Great content guys.
For the money I would say the N but the better car is the civic for sure. I do think the type R is a bargain compared to the RS and STI though.
I bought my veloster N still warm from the factory and absolutely love it. Funnest car I've ever driven. I would also like to point out the fact that the veloster is built to take those corners much faster. It's definitely not a drag car with 6 second 0-60 but it has cornering technology the civic doesn't.. They're both great cars but the Veloster Raptor has unseen potential that will show up after some training.
Dude ur like 10
Two seconds is a significant difference in such a short track.
$6000 is a significant difference in the bank account.
@@BhutJolokias ...but you'll get that $6K back when you sell the car.
Kevindust Why are you selling it?
@@jackson.2171 You sell it to buy something else. People who buy these brand new tend to keep them for 2-6 years and then sell them. In 2-6 years, the CTR will still be worth $6K more than the VN.
Kevindust Who’s to say? What if the N cars take off and they make some more that do very well? Every brand has to start somewhere.
The Veloster N performance package is kinda halfway between the GTI/Si and the Golf R/Type R. It's a super impressive package for the price, and I love Hyundai for building it and it would be my choice between these two cars (I like the smaller size, lower price, and styling). Really looking forward to watching your summer hijinx guys!!!
Great review. Honda is the experienced one but you can see Hyundai is learning quickly and on its way to catch up.
Clearly the Hyundai has OEM the better sound, but the Type R has the much more better performance in every detail..., I go in Germany with the Type R for than 10.000 Miles with 350ps+, have installed the Remus excaust and the Carbon Eventuri intake, now there is definitely no sound problem, and the the I30n, that I like too, sounds a bit more softer ;=)....
Great video!
One point I would like to add is that the CTR I believe is slightly better equipped - LED headlights vs halogen for instance. The Veloster also has a cheaper interior as mentioned in the road test video. I feel like these differences are easily worth around $3k.
The N has LED low beams, and halogen high beams, at least in the US.
The way I see, its not a "just" 6K, its 20% more expensive. If the cars were 100K VS 106K I would rate that 6K in a totally different way. When you plan buying a car, to pay 20% more of what you had planned, or to save 20% its a MEGA difference. I think many commenting are not buyers of 27K cars.
What subaruwrxsti300 said. You will get the 20% back with resale of the vehicle so its really a moot point to even make. Please do tell us, how is the market on 5,10, & 20 year old Hyundais?
@@brandnewty
If you have extra money doing nothing yes. But most people dont. They would pay more monthly, more on interest and will make your life quite harder for the time...
Sure the sell is over 20% different but not 6K different, its way less plus you loose on the interest..
@@helderp631 Most people today waste plenty of money they don't have, I don't know what you're talking about. The 6 K will come out at the sale of the car if not more. If you are concerned with the extra 1000 bucks interest, then maybe you are more concerned with budget than not having a shitty interior, having decent cargo room, 4 doors, etc. I actually use my Type R and the N just wouldn't cut it for me from a practical stand point. And did I mention that interior looks fucking dogshit cheap?
@@brandnewty
I see for you paying 250 or 360 bucks per month for the car is the same. That is the mindset that bankrupts people all the time...
@@helderp631 What part of I actually use my Type R (For work, to make money) don't you understand? If 100 a month is going to make you bankrupt, this probably doesn't apply to you to begin with. Furthermore, I am wagering on Honda to provide a better long term product than Hyundai, as history has shown to be the case.
Two awesome cars, one awesome video. As a CTR owner I'm glad we have amazing options for cheap FWD performance. And to those who say FWD can't be fun, I say look at these two cars for proof of how fun they really can be.
Right-on brother! I am a N owner, and I love the CTR (except for the price tag, which where I am at is a good bit higher than MSRP.) Anyone who assumes front wheel drive cars can't be fun has definitely not driven either of these cars.
I dunno man. As an avid supporter of FWD cars and Hondas in general, the FK8 is too big for FWD fun. Does it haul ass? Definitely. Is it an engaging drive? I'm sure it is. However, I would say that the FK8 probably feels really numb if you compared it to say my 1996 DB8 Integra Type R. Even my 2001 DC5 Integra Type R felt pretty numb when compared to any of the '90s Hondas that I've owned. Then again, that was also what made me like that car so much. It was a much more refined and mature feeling car than the 1997 Civic Type R that I also owned at the time, but the poor build quality of the older Hondas translated to greater feedback through the chassis which is what made the Hondas so much fun to drive. You get extremely disconnected in the modern cars as they give piss poor feedback.
I honestly cannot make up my mind about these 2 cars. They each have their own styling nuances and the differences between configurability and power between the 2 are just too close to call in all categories. One ultra important figure will be longevity and cost-to-own as a daily driver over 3-5 years. Second will be the aftermarket community for Hyundai. Civic/Honda has a decades long cult-like following but Hyundai is relatively new in this space. So that will be very interesting to see!
Great videos guys! Keep it up!
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The Hyundai is going to depreciate like a rock. Hate the styling but the Type-R is a far better value even at the higher price.
I love both these cars. Big up to Hyandui for actually going in the right direction again! ❤️
I wish the type R had a better sounding exhaust pipe, I still like it more than the Veloster overall.
Likewise. But the N is still fantastic!
N is the most affordable and I would buy it.
Buy borla exhaust
Enjoyed the vid. You guys are getting better and better. Actually lived the commentary during the track time. Great job
I would take civic type r for extra cargo room and 4 doors
Great comparison. I really wish we were getting the Elantra (i30N). 5 doors with all the good stuff of the Veloster N. I just can't get over the CTR's styling. And with the price difference between the two, I think the Hyundai is a very good option. Plus a 10 year warranty!
It seems like this video finally stopped all the arguments on which is "better". Type R wins, but people finally be respecting that Veloster N. I want one
I test drove a white Veloster N, made up my mind Yes, and thought I could patiently wait for a blue one. There were so few of them around, unfortunately, and the closest one had a $5k mark up. GTFO. 2 weeks later I found a 2019 CTR in Sonic Gray at MSRP. It was an offer I couldn't refuse.
CTR is definitely worth it if those are your options. In my case, I was getting a N for over $2,000 under MSRP and CTRs were regularly $5,000+ over MSRP. Our differences in experiences goes to demonstrate how radically prices can vary by area.
No Brainer.
Veloster N VS Golf GTI!!!
I love these guys. At least you called a winner but with logical caveats.
Loved watching that. Was thinking about whether the Veloster N is worth upgrading to from an SI. It slots between my SI and the Type R. Hate to spend more money for less space, worse seats, worse mileage, and a worse interior. But- more power, more customization modes, rev match, and that sound. Hmmm...
I have a friend with an SI that drove my N and he's mind blown the N was " only like 2k" more than the the SI. He says had he known he probably would have gotten an N.
It comes down to what's Important to you. I'd recommend test driving the N.
This was a good video. As a N owner and someone who has driven the CTR, I knew the CTR was a faster car (ones in my area are $15,000 more than the N...so it should be.) That said, I also knew the N was going to lay down insanely respectable numbers. For those who say, "it's still a Hyundai," they really should drive an N, as it is nothing like what Hyundai has made before. And yes, it is just about as fun to drive as the CTR, and a lot more fun to drive than other cars in this segment.
and the N also looks WAAAY better than the CTR...which seems to be the consensus for people above 25 years old..
The seats in these cars are so good. Love Honda and Hyundai
You guys are right behind top gear for videos I watch during the week. Yuri’s just like me for cars as hard as is to admit for me. Lol keep up the good work!
I've driven that track! definitely makes it a bit more relatable of a comparison for me!
Awesome
VELOSTER N. I own it and its crazy awesome, beautiful, SEXY AND SO MUCH FUN. The Honda , well, looks like a Honda.
great video as always! for the difference in price, a little cargo space, and the other couple minor things, my money goes to the N
Great video! Loved the race track comparison. I would take any of the two cars. Then again won't really be a great option for Europe. The prices where I live (Denmark) is Honda: 111,500 CA$ and Hyundai: 85,107 CA$. So the Hyundai would be the choice moneywise
saxdasion over 100k CAD for a Honda? Thats crazy! Am I reading the currency right?
@@chickenbones Unfortunately you are reading correctly. There's taxes of 150% on cars in Denmark. So if you have a car in Denmark it cost 2.5 times the prices of the car value.
In Europe, the "base" Civic Hatch costs a only tiny bit less a Sport Touring here in Canada. (BTW I love my Sport Touring 6MT)
The REAL winner of this track battle is the hero that we desperately need but do not deserve: a new Mazdaspeed 3.
Psylent Productions period, all I'm waiting for
Hands down if i had the money I would civic type r. But the hyundai is more in my price range.If they make an elantra or elantra gt N that will for sure been my next car.
For 6 to 7 gran savings over the type R 🤔 i think hyundai needs to start selling N aftermarket products as they have performance parts for their race cars.. 4 gran in upgrades could make the N faster than the R and still save..
Joe Brown probably just tires alone would make the difference
"I want to spend 40K on a Hyundai" - No one ever.
600$ on hondata on the type r and 😌
Good luck with those Continental tires you pictured in the video. I had them and they CANNOT take the heat from track I destroyed them at Cayuga & even though those tires look like track racing tires based on their website they are not & they denied me warranty. Dont waste your money, I picked up Hankook RS4 tires & are 10x better then those continentals.
Great video, i';d still get the Veloster N considering it lost :-)
I'd really like to see what the Veloster N can do with a little tune. Like obviously you can modify both cars but I'd be curious how they compare with even closer HP numbers. Would be a cool comparison
I'm glad you guys are gonna be letting me know what I need to do to get max improvements out if my Veloster N! Thanks bros.
Right on
@@TheStraightPipes I am curious as to how I stack up with a $500 tuning module installed running about 4psi over stock boost. Want to know if that will come close to making up the difference on the straight.
I am hitting up Shannonville Motorsports Park tonight and will report back :D
Annnnd, track conditions were pretty greasy as it rained all day.
In the drag the wheel hop was pretty intense and my best times were with the suspension in normal. Best time I could post was 14.33 @ 101mph. On the bright side I did get a chance to beat a Type R quite badly.
During lapping I got to experience the crazy amount of oversteer this fwd can produce. Even got a video of me spinning out in a right turn filmed from behind me and it seriously looks like rwd snap oversteer lol.
What a super fun car though, had a blast :).
I think between the two, I'd take the Civic because a) The Honda brand stands out more to me and b) The resale value of the Civic is likely better. That said, if I was given one of the two, I'd take the Type R, sell it, and get a SI. The Type R has got to be a pain in the rear to keep clean with all the edges and cuts.
If you're looking to buy a car to keep it clean, the Type R might not be the best choice for you.
The video I have been waiting for!
Just bought the 2022 Veloster N, manual, performance blue. Absolutely brilliant! Only had it 8 days and I love it more everyday!
My two favourite channels! More collaboration please!
Type R all day!!!. It's Japanese and waaaaaaayyyy more Iconic!!!! Period
"We aren't trying to compete with the Type R"
-Albert Beirmann
*continues to make several videos comparing it to the Type R* 😭💀
Great track review of both. For me...its the typeR
There's a lot of history, and heritage in the Type R but gotta give credit to N division something with no history and heritage.
The N models today is like the first Honda type Rs created, it's like a beginning of a legendary history of N. That's just how I see it.
Traditions have to start somewhere. Good for Hyundai for finally making a performance car after 30 years of existence, hopefully they keep it up.
Fantastic video! The drone shots were superb. I really enjoyed the comparisons for tracking these cars, that $6000 would help pay for a lot of brakes and tires.
these two are becoming my favorite car reviewers
Type R all the way. I have a hunch that once you pack on the km, the Honda will prevail in longevity.
You know you're a professional reviewer when you use the term "loosey goosey" 😂😂😂 all love guys 😂
I went for the Veloster N. I was looking at the Stinger GT2, but once I saw the performance of the N for under 30k, sold.
if i was you, i would wait maybe 2-3 years cause that Veloster N would lose half its value lol. Look at the Genesis coupe' resale values. Their crap.
Track : Type R
Road: i30N (because of the infotainment and exhaust)
When are you guys coming to Munich ?
I have a stinger gt with a loud sports exhaust 😎
Track: Type R
Road: ... Type R - I'd need the 4 door practicality 😁
LOVE the Stinger!!!
Civic Type R hands down test drove the Veloster N and just didn't have it the CTR just nailed all the points for me so I just picked one up on the 20th and I Love it.
I wish they'd release the N here in the Philippines/Thailand faster, I'm dying to get one!!
Import taxes would cost me +27k USD if I had one shipped earlier
As far as I know, Hyundai Philippines sells it for special orders. www.autodeal.com.ph/articles/car-news-philippines/philippine-spec-2019-hyundai-veloster-n-apparently-being-sold-locally
It is available in the Philippines!
thanks for the update guys, disappointed thats its PH-speced, but at least they waved off the import fee
the cake is a lie Honestly we get a pretty good version, we just don’t have the LSD nor the active exhaust. Still worth it imo! Planning on purchasing one as well hehe
@mophoplz it isn’t unfortunately. Pushed me towards putting in a reservation for the GR Yaris instead hahaha
as I said in the last video, being almost as fast is not the only thing to consider when looking at the prices.
Being 90-95% as fast does not make the veloster N a better choice because of a lower price.
There are TONS of other things to consider when buying a car, most of which are not written some specification paper !
so, as I said before, will the Veloster N last as much as the Honda ?
Will it drive the same in 15 years ?
For how long can I push the engine, the brakes, the clutch, without them overheating or even failing ?
What aftermarket parts will be available for each car ?
How upgradable will the engine be ?
Not to mention stuff you already talked about.. Like interior, space, etc.
Those are all KEY factors of almost any Honda vehicle up until now.
That's what you pay. Quality of parts. Well-thought engineering.
(+) this is a very small track and 2 seconds are kinda of a big difference.
dang. ive been waiting for this all day. great job ,u guys.
You save 6-7k.
You don't void your warranty for tracking your car.
You get said warranty for longer.
I honestly don't see how a car that gets its warranty voided for tracking it somehow a better "track car"
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I like both these cars, but I'm buying an R. If you're on a budget, the N makes sense, but for me the R is just more practical. More interior space, 4 doors, will hold value better, and addresses the performance/fun to drive aspect more than amply IMO for a street car. I also have an E92 M3 and a B9 S4, but I don't really enjoy daily driving the S4 so much so I'm giving it to the wife and that's why I'm looking at the R - it can fit my kids, or take the dogs if I fold the seats down, and it gives me a nice contrast in aesthetics compared to my M3. I think overall the R as a street car that you can occasionally take to the track is the most compelling story, compared to the N.
Type R, precision and room
Veloster N for sure and as Yuri said mainly due to the value for the performance factor. Both are great cars but I would take that trade. Just like currently I am driving the new 2019 VW Jetta S with manual and even though I test drove the Jetta GLI version and the GTI Golf really did enjoy the extra performance just not enough to get me out of the Veloster N. Plus they do have the best in class interior space however the fun is somewhat muted by the boring exhaust note and heaver weight and feel. Perfect if you do want more luxury in your compact car and the Jetta and Golf back seats are very large, the Jetta can seat a 6' 2" man without hitting anything. So when I get a bit further in my current lease I am going to look into swapping out for the Veloster N sometime soon. Excellent video and thank you for the awesome reviews.
If you want more Cargo space you can get the i30n Fastback, which combines fun, practicality, subtle elegance and price perfectly in my opinion
Not in Canada
I30n isn't available anywhere except Europe I believe.
@AlasTVRisHere regarding Tracks that obviously a trade off. But If you are looking for Something less boy-racer than the civic for everyday driving, the Fastback N is what i would get
@@theshiner69 that May be true. Luckily i am in Europe:). Downside is you get No muscle Cars and you are heavily taxed on big Liter engines
@@theshiner69 Australia gets the i30N as well.
Gr8 & fun review!
As a former track junkie, I would save the $6 and go for the Veloster... because you will NEVER leave well enough alone. Without doubt, you'll improve either car you own :-)
Of course the $6k will go a long way toward excellent brakes ans Track Wheels and Tires.
A WIN for Veloster.
I wish Hyundai put the heated seats and steering wheel in the US market version. Still take it over the Type R any day but would be nice to see even more value.
Haha we even got optional ventilated seats, sunroof, carbon exterior parts, and alcantara interior parts for Veloster N!
- From Korea.
I loved loved loved this! Please do more drag race and track reviews with cars like the GTI, WRX, Si, BRZ, Miata, etc