One thing I would like to point out that I don't think anybody else has noticed is the fact that Frank's RV has no toilet. It explains why he's always on the beach so much. he must be pooping in the sand and covering it up. Can you find Frank's RV toilet? What happened?
LMAOOOO STOP IT I CANT STOP LAUGHING AT THIS IM JUST IMAGINING CHLOE HUNTING HIM DOWN FOR WEED AND HIS CHEEKS ARE JUST SHOWING WHILE HES SHITTING ON THE BEACH
i really wished they added some of the cut content into the remastered version to give us a fuller story, like the new until dawn remake/remaster is most likely doing
listen, when max unlocks her phone it says "you have one new mesasge" suggesting that nathans message is a voice mail left for max meaning that nathan could have already been dead
22:00 I remember one of the top theories during the first season was that Rachel had Max’s exact powers. Remember the first episode how Max impresses and charms everyone in the schoolyard by using her rewind ability to drop knowledge. Everyone of them talks about Rachel and how she got along and fit in with everyone.
It also tied into a theory that the Prescotts were trying to find the time travelers and steal their powers. We also speculated the Pan Estates was something like Epstein’s island. That combined the Vortex Club with their name’s connection to a tornado, and their secrecy, exclusivity, and elitism was some Skull and Bones style secret sect that had something to do with the storm and the occult. So there was a lot of us _LiSbians_ who believed that the Prescotts were doing really terrible things within their compound (Human sacrifice? Stealing souls through photos?) , running the Vortex Club which was a Secret Society of Occultists,trying to steal some powers granted by a divine presence, and destroy the town by summoning the storm so they can begin anew. (Ties into the Prescotts legacy of colonization.) Our disappointment was immeasurable when the final episode dropped and half the storylines and mysteries had no resolution.
8:58 just with this point about Victoria, I though Max had undone that choice regardless whether she warns Victoria or not at the Vortex Party when she rewinds with Warrens photo selfie and the whole instance of convincing Chloe not to go to the party cause of everything that happens, therefore removing the chance to warn Victoria and her ending up in the Darkroom. Side note: Been loving these videos!
As others have said, I'm loving the LiS content. However, this does beg the question: When are you going to do a LiS playthrough on your channel? If you're concerned about not having "fresh reactions" because you've played the games before, then maybe you can rope in a friend to play them, and you can provide commentary and/or ask questions of the person playing while they go through? Personally, I don't mind watching someone play through a game they've played before as long as they can provide interesting info about the game or have compelling thoughts to share. Also, if you're ever interested in branching out to other games, might I recommend What Remains of Edith Finch, Hollow Knight, and Signalis. All three of those are rich with character, lore, and unanswered questions.
For me the Nathan messaging Max part is because he probably sent her a voice note right before he was killed by Jefferson in the junkyard, Jefferson then takes his phone and texts Max through it (the plothole would be that Max hasn’t received the voice note even though she received “Nathan’s” message telling her and Chloe to go to the junkyeard) but let’s say it was a connection issue, and when Mark drugged Max and killed Chloe, he turned off their phones, and took Max to the bunker (where there’s no cell service) when she gets out she gets back the service alongside Nathan’s belated message about being murdered by Jefferson
@@Dolphin2048 you’re right, but the plot hole still stands, how come Jefferson sent this to Chloe through Nathan’s phone & Nathan still managed to record the voice message..?
@@hmody360_2 because he recorded it before the message?... you guys realize messages can go unread for days right... doesn't mean it JUST went thru lol
@@NerdsPsychoticInterlude we’re saying this because it was a voice note (I think) and not just a normal voice message, voice note notifications are sent right after they’re recorded, so if you think about it Nathan might’ve not died when Jefferson was in the Junkyard at the end of episode 4, he probably killed him right after or before(most likely before) killing Chloe and capturing Max, since after that Max is in the bunker and wouldn’t get a signal until after escaping from the dark room.
@@hmody360_2 you're judging this by 2024 standards instead of 2015 standards. it WAS NOT a voice note; we didn't even have those yet. it was a VOICEMAIL. those usually went unread for a long time and the notifications for them frequently got lost.
I'd like to think there was originally going to be more to Ep 5. The thing I really hated about the ending was that to save AB you have to undo the entire game, as if Max and the player never existed. It also bugged me that Max's first storm vision was before she discovered her power, leading me ro think the storm was inevitable.
As much as I played, and watch other people play LIS. I never thought once about Stella being involved with Mr.Jefferson or the things you talked about with Nathan. These were some great insights on a lot of things I didn't think about until now
I feel like they wanted to go more in depth on the background and how powers in life is strange exist but they didn’t have the budget or time to do it all. So I feel like that’s what double exposure is going to be
It would be interest if, at some point in the next 20 years, it'll get a remake like a lot of old games currently are. Would be cool to see the content cut due to time constraints etc added back in along with fixing plot holes and whatever it is they were originally going for with the potential merging timelines etc.
Ok but hear me out. What if Rachel was the female accomplice and not Stella? Maybe she wasn't a victim of Jefferson, maybe she kept up with his antics because of their relationship or for other reasons. Maybe she was gaslighted or manipulated, maybe she was supposedly connected to the entire "supernatural" topic considering it was heavily hinted that she had at least some kind of powers. But then she somehow ended up knowing too much about something (possibly the real plan of the Prescott) and was eliminated? Idk i'm kinda yapping rn, but that is something that always crossed my mind considering how much Rachel was presented as a morally grey character (at least in the first game, not talking about BtS). As a bonus: i'm not sure if she was already gone when Kate was drugged, but that would be food for toughts. Would explain why she was able to get in the dorm without anyone noticing or being suspicious.
I am pretty sure its mentioned that Nathan killed her because he tried to mimic Mr Jeffersons work and while doing that he overdressed her. That probably the reason we see him so distressed from the beginning and him felling sorry for her death on the voice mail. Rachel knew something of mr Jefferson but if we go by the person of before the storm that didnt take anything really seriously besides threats it would be not unlikely that she thought nothing would happen to her.
Victoria will be alive no matter what your decision is in the ending of the first game: When max used Warren's photo of them to go back to before going to the party, you never talk to Victoria, and the only way for Victoria to be captured and murdered by Jefferson is if and only if, you tell her about the dark room and she believes you. As when she knows she's in danger she goes to Jefferson for help and she is taken because he knows she knows about Nathan being dangerous, he may have also assumed and overestimated how much she knows about the dark room, as Max told her about being in danger.
That's not exactly what happened, but in order to explain: SPOILERS AHEAD for Life is Strange 2: --------------------------------- Victoria actually still gets kidnapped by Jefferson in the timeline Max creates using Warren's photo to avoid getting ambushed in the junkyard. Remember that Victoria was going to be Jefferson's next victim originally, so when Max and Chloe didn't show up at the party to prompt him to make Max his main target, he went ahead with his original plan to drug and kidnap Victoria. However, Max and Chloe warned David and he rescued Victoria with the help of two cops before Jefferson could do anything to her. David and Victoria, and presumably Jefferson and the cops survived the storm by staying in the bunker until it was over. This sequence of events is confirmed in the "Sacrifice Arcadia Bay" timeline in Episode 5 of Life is Strange 2.
@@rofald Actually, I've found the evidence myself. It's very small yet, I understand now. I'm unsure if it was just the party alone that prompted Jefferson to take Max and prefer her over Victoria, there was most likely other events throughout the week where he noticed her "optimistic aura" and "innocence"
@@SpyroTheGoth By the time Max and Chloe got to the party, Jefferson knew that they had seen the Dark Room and Rachel's burial site, so he HAD to go after them before they told someone what they had seen. He probably tried the ploy with Nathan's phone to lure them to the junkyard in both the pre- and post- Warren's photo realities, but it didn't work in the post-photo reality. It seems in the post-photo reality Jefferson thought that when Max and Chloe failed to show up at the junkyard that they wouldn't go to the cops until the next day at the earliest, so he went ahead with his plans to photograph Victoria. He probably figured that he could deal with Max and Chloe later since he had no reason to believe that they knew that he was the mastermind behind the Dark Room operation. He thought they only knew about Nathan's involvement.
@@rofald I already got that part, I was just seeing if you did. Good to see a fellow person who drowns themselves in the details and isn't confused by them, I had just missed the letter from Victoria in the second game, or at least forgot about it. In the first game there's no evidence of this, so all that tells us that is the letter from #2
ME TOO! i like reading old discussion between people about life is strange. because at that time they shows how much they appreciate the little details about the game and talk about characters that a lot of people don't care about since you only can talk to them three times but the fandom make their characters more interesting with their theories
Technical Rachel has a power not like max power but a different one as when she gets stabbed and get in the hospital the fire that she started in the beginning it stops because we can hear two firefighters talking about the fire just extinguished with no reason
I love Life is strange 1 and before the storm but i didn’t like 2 or True colors so im glad to have found someone talking about life is strange 1 in 2024
I just discovered your channel, and I GASPED when I saw you didn’t even have a thousand subscribers! You truly have what it takes to make it far on here! You talk in a comforting way, and you get to the point of the video instead of rambling on and on. You’re very well put together and professional. I really enjoy your content! I wish you so much good luck on TH-cam!! Also, you should totally go over Life is Strange 2! I would absolutely love to learn more about the game that I might have missed the first few times!
Also, I'd like to add that originally there was gonna be 7-8 episodes, multiple devs have mentioned that. I theorize that they originally had episodes 5,6,7 and 8 explore the supernatural elements and the symbolism. But they were forced/had too cut all that content and try to wrap it up in Episode 5, which is why the Chaos Theory stuff never getting concrete confirmation and how so much about Max, Jefferson, and the Prescotts is still up in the air
I love these theories! i usually theorize more about the psychology of each character and why they behave as they do, and i havent heard as many theories on the actual time mechanics of the game and its world! Definitely new and original
I think a big thing why I think a lot of the game seems rushed or plot lines don’t make sense, could be mixing different drafts together or the team not keeping up with each other working on different episodes. I also think it could be they didn’t know where from A to B was going, so they made it up as they went. I bet a big chuck of this was making mysteries that even the Devs didn’t know (like trying to make mysteries on the game, like why someone would kill/kidnap/done whatever to Rachel without actually planning out what happened to her). TV shows have this issue, ones that have ongoing mysteries (Pretty Little Liars definitely did, taking a lot of ideas from the novels and then ditching the novels mostly in later seasons, which contrasts the idea they set up). I think even the way Rachel is this good girl with rough around the edges persona was kind of dropped in LIS:BTS, which I think makes her seem off. My theory with Rachel is that she did have powers, but maybe has issues with them and maybe started taking drugs and fell in love with Frank and Chloe to numb her powers (not saying she didn’t love them, but she had issues that made those relationships like a drug unto themselves), since they all are related to drugs. Maybe she got wrapped up with Nathan, because of money and maybe he got her drugs (and likely they has mutual friends) and she fell for Jefferson, because maybe she saw like a father figure in him (her home life seemed liked she didn’t really have a great relationship with her parents). I think she was dealing with emotional issues upon having powers that lead her into arms of people not good for her.
my theory on the Nathan is that Nathan left his coat in the dark room, Jefferson went after him, Nathan got away and Jefferson use Nathans phone which was in his coat pocket to lure max in. max is drugged in the dark room while Nathan used someone else's phone to leave a voice mail for max. it's the only way this makes sense, timeline wise. the call was also lower quality and he called instead of texting so i think he was using a corded phone. how he had her number memorized, i got no clue but i'm convinced that he made the call while she was in that chair
omg i loved this video! ive been a lis fan for yeears and feel like ive heard every take and exhausted all the 'fun new' content rel8ing to it. but that was before i saw this !! i would love to see any and every video you mentioned wanting to make ( also i love that you already have it mapped out i see you structured king ) so please keep at it ☆ can't wait to see more !!
Oh hell yeah this totally revitalised all my excitement over the theories that we had leading into Episode 5. I’m a Prescott’s-were-in-on-the-storm truther! It makes the most sense!
Hey, man. Twenty seconds in, and the first glimpse of you already hooked me. There’s something about your vibe, something that is cool. I’ll tuck this video away, I promise to revisit it later.
in life is strange before the storm they could’ve added how Rachel ended up in the dark room. Developers don’t stick to the who?, what?, and why? Plot anymore. They want us to create our own theories. It’s a lot of questions in the game like how did max get these random powers, why didn’t max and Chloe go straight to the police once they found Rachel’s body? ( yes, I know why But realistically speaking) Nathan would’ve confessed. One of my main theories I have is if Rachel was not deceased Chloe will turn her back on Max. In before the storm we see why Chloe was so mad at max but it wasn’t her fault for leaving. The only problem max did wrong was not keeping her word and basically ghosting her. When max has a nightmare we see evil max and what goes on in maxs head. Chloe uses her past and why everyone leaves her as a manipulation Tatic. Although she does love max, She was in love with Rachel. Which makes me believes that Chloe would’ve ran away with Rachel, If it was an alternative reality. That’s why I never chose Chloe at the end because it was a selfish choice.I would love to see a life is strange before missing Rachel story. I feel like her story was rushed by developers because we never knew how she went missing. People may be biased by the making of that gameplay if they make it. But, she literally is one of the main characters, lol. I want to see her pov and how she actually felt about Chloe, how she met frank, and what was the whole thing with her and mark Jefferson if they were ever a “thing” that he claims and others.
hey, so cool hearing you talk about hitting 400 followers, and only a month later you’re on 2k!! it’s super great to see people do what they love and be rewarded with tons of support.. me included as i just subscribed! can’t wait to hear more of your content :p
Great video. I really liked this theory? i mean, sure it has alot of determinants and unused contents, even some stretchs. But its better than the usual theory that just uses the in-game content to a really narrow thing in the end. Good job
if you could review "Who's lila" i'd love to see what you think about it. Its a really complex game, with several endings that are also "dialogue" based. It has alot of supernatural and science to it too, depending on the ending. From cultists to straightforward Ego/Superego/ID study. (i mean, in general, it has alot of complexity and its really open for interpretation unlike other games that leaves things over-explained)
as far as im concerned, the Nathan voice line cut about the storm was an alternate sequence of that phone call he sends max, a version where he doesn't feel sympathetic and is still upset about his situation and venting to her angrily as he did before, and I believe the "wooded area" is simply the concert hall / warehouse from the start of BTS as its likely he was doing his own dealing there
Thanks for this intelligent and logical theorizing about the missing pieces of this game! I was particularly interested in Stella's role and agree that she probably had a bigger part to play originally considering how prominent her name in Frank's account book is. She was buying harder stuff even more frequently than even Nathan! If the devs had chosen to explore her in depth, we would have found out she had quite a secret life behind her façade as a quiet studious person. Another minor character I wonder about is Luke Parker the one-note "I hate Nathan" boy. Given how unnecessary he is, I wonder if he was originally supposed to play a greater role, but by the time the devs realized they didn't really know what to do with him it was more trouble than it was worth to remove him from the game.
I'm loving your videos. I'm a big LiS fan and seeing videos like this again makes me so happy. I have some other things to think about : The name Katie in Frank's book and Victoria Calling Kate Katie when she talks to Jefferson. The bus ticket in Kate's Locker in the pool during episode two was she thinking about leaving or did someone put it there? Nathan seemed drugged too in the picture of him and Rachel's Body. I thought that the fact that Nathan's car was green was like a way of Jefferson to hide the fact that he got rid of it. Also the fact that I find it weird to see Nathan's Psychiatrist's letter in the dark room as well as his jacket. (my theory is that he's already dead when Max and Chloe goes to the barn) but I like the idea of multiple realities. Since it seems like one reality took over in the two moons scene. There's also unused audio of Nathan complaining about his head. What if he had powers too? And could see the future or at least the storm. What if all the meds he takes are to block his powers or enhance it? (also the gun is probably a gift from Jefferson so what if Jefferson told Nathan to kill Chloe?) Samuel seems to know a lot too and he has pics of Rachel and a silk scarf? David's stock of food in the price's garage does knows at least something about the storm? I'm sure Rachel was an accomplice even after before the storm I'm actually more sure about this SINCE before the storm Also the voicelines in the nightmare in ep 5 I think some of the dialogues are some that could have been from other realities (like wells saying that mrs price thinks she can come to Blackwell with her wheelchair " Also Nathan's father HAS to know about what Jefferson is doing in the darkroom at least a bit.
Just to point out that the game have A LOT of cut content, and I really mean it... This game was supossed to have 8 episodes but he had 5 and the last was rushed... so somewhere in dontnod headquarters Michael Koch, Roaul Barbet and Chistian Divine have the brutal material that they wrote for this game... And have all the aswers for the questions that we have. But we never ever will have in the light of day
One thing has been bothering me since the beginning. David Madsen started working at the school before Rachel's death. David had a lot of information. GPS datas, locations, photos, etc. Why couldn't he figured anything out? Why didn't he goes to any of the Vortex Club parties? Then he could have seen Nathan take the girls.
i always thought rachel had something to do with the storm like it was her revenge but after hearing the Nathan Prescott voicline WHY WOULDNT they add this supernatural layer to the game??
As you mentioned, I'd love to see you cover the Oxenfree games as well! And when LiS Double Exposure comes out, it'd be cool to see you cover that or just do a livestream playthrough of it on here (if you are comfortable with that)
One point that I ask myself since the first time I playes the game is: Why do the fish in the classroom doesn't come to the glaas of the fish Tank when Max touched the glass? The first thing I thought was, that Max is dead and everything is just in her head 😅
Hey good video! But I kind of think we should give more importance to the alternate realities, mostly because of the scene with the "other Maxs" that shows that all the timelines kept going even if she rewinded.
The only theory that I hate is that Max could save Arcadia Bay and Chloe. I think that is losing the weight of your choices, including the last one. It's okay choose Chloe instead of Arcadia Bay, you're letting a lot of people die, but you don't have the duty to save them. And It's okay to be the good guy and save Arcadia Bay. We just can't forget that choices have consequences. I startes thinking that way, just because of the butterfly effect. Chloe is the butterfly that can cause a tornado just flipping wings and that is the game. I wish the fanbase stops to try find relieve about sacrifice Chloe or sacrifice Arcadia Bay. It's the same about TLOU, Joel condemn the humanity to save Ellie and it's okay, he know the price of letting the girl lives and we must know the cost of both decisions in this game, that is the beuty with the LiS1's ending.
@Noer so Victoria is alive because Max and Chloe go back in time after Max's nightmare and Max wasn't captured but Victoria was. everything that happened in one's gameplay of LiS still happens up until after the vortex party because Chloe and Max don't go to the junkyard. So Victoria is kidnapped but instead of David saving Max, he saves Victoria instead.
Regarding Theory #1: Stella had some neck beard vibes. She very well could have been planning on photographing Warren, but spared him when she saw the tornado.
Hey Noer! I’ve just wanted to say your Life is Strange content is amazing. Your uncut content stuff is amazing. The voicemail by Nathan you were talking about was is also very interesting. How did he send the voicemail?
Jefferson said he took care of Victoria ? Victoria in the dark room is determinate. I’m confused. I don’t remember him saying that. What happens with Victoria? If she believe you, I don’t remember. What does Jefferson say then? I think Victoria. Probably survives both outcomes.
Would love to hear someone comment on the nature of Max's scholarship to Blackwell. She would have submitted examples of her retro Polaroid selfies. Which would have been judged by Mark Jefferson. Jefferson, on seeing Max's innocence would have wanted to add her image to his collection. In essence, Max's submission for a scholarship to a serial perv put her on Jefferson's list. What better way for a predator with power to lure his prey? Bastard.
nathan’s rich wouldn’t be surprised if he had 2 phones or 3 lol . remember an episode four you have to go into his dorm to steal his phone? And then you get a text from him right after you leave . lmao
about the kate drugging, its worth noting that Kate didnt get drugged by an SPECIFIC vortex club member, its more seen as an "planned prank" towards the "puritane christian" that lectures them about their sins. So if warren had been drugged, it could also be another "prank" from the vortex in general
And nathan messages, i believe, can be seen as a plothole. But i've always seen it as the message delaying, as if he was a in remote area trying to hide from jefferson, and only really getting to max phone after him dying and jefferson specifically sending the messages to lure them. And i dont think its specified that both the messages Jefferson uses to lure max and chloe were from nathan phone? i may be missing something sorry. And the voicemail wasnt "from your contact list" specified, its just a voicemail that has been received at that hour, that max couldnt really pickup. It could have been ANY other cellphone nathan had, and returning to the most commonly hole gap that the voicemail simply delayed until getting to max phone.
And jefferson didnt believe nathan would learn his art, he believes nathan has skills with shadows, but overall lacks the love for his sick hobbie. Its more like, Nathan wanting to learn how to be a better photographer and his father moving some sticks for jefferson to learn him specifically etc... Idk, Nathan being his protege is more like "He is useful for me right now, so i'll keep grooming him into being more calm and behave better to get my approval and for me to tell his father nice things about him." Which could explain why we dont see nathan father, he doesnt believe that nathan is behaving so erratically, while his sister is worried about him he doesnt reply back. Which further indicates jefferson manipulation. Idk its more of a hunch and being more headcanon than theorizing, some things may make sense under this perspective but there are several others thing that needs to be analyzed when this perspective is in the play.
@@KryzysX Daniel trained with rocks. The meteor shower we see in Double Exposure is rocks. Let's say the planet is hit by an asteroid/meteor in one timeline and then Max goes back in time with Photo Focus (to the time she took the photo where she appears to go unconscious for a bit) and sets things up so that the asteroid can be deflected or disintegrated [by Daniel]. Something like that.
@@KryzysX Fwiw I just noticed that a little under 2 weeks ago Serrated Cucumber on TH-cam posted a video with the Photo Focus and asteroid impact aspects of my theory. He didn't mentioned Daniel, but I think that still qualifies as an Asteroid Theory. I didn't realize til an hour ago that he posyed that video, or I would've mentioned it in my initial comment. Feel free to look it up.
One thing I would like to point out that I don't think anybody else has noticed is the fact that Frank's RV has no toilet. It explains why he's always on the beach so much. he must be pooping in the sand and covering it up. Can you find Frank's RV toilet? What happened?
LMAOOOO STOP IT I CANT STOP LAUGHING AT THIS IM JUST IMAGINING CHLOE HUNTING HIM DOWN FOR WEED AND HIS CHEEKS ARE JUST SHOWING WHILE HES SHITTING ON THE BEACH
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I mean, he was also parked outsite the two whales diner a lot so he probably went there to do the pooping deeds
@@krypt2k probably why he was eating beans. That way he can eat and shit in under an hour. Efficiency at it's finest.
i really wished they added some of the cut content into the remastered version to give us a fuller story, like the new until dawn remake/remaster is most likely doing
So sad this wasn’t true
@@OwenDonaghy im devastated
@@sploib THEY COULDVE ATLEAST ADDED SOME UNUSED VOICE LINES OR SOMETHING SMH. ATLEAST JOSH GOT SOMETHING.
listen, when max unlocks her phone it says "you have one new mesasge" suggesting that nathans message is a voice mail left for max meaning that nathan could have already been dead
22:00 I remember one of the top theories during the first season was that Rachel had Max’s exact powers. Remember the first episode how Max impresses and charms everyone in the schoolyard by using her rewind ability to drop knowledge. Everyone of them talks about Rachel and how she got along and fit in with everyone.
It also tied into a theory that the Prescotts were trying to find the time travelers and steal their powers. We also speculated the Pan Estates was something like Epstein’s island. That combined the Vortex Club with their name’s connection to a tornado, and their secrecy, exclusivity, and elitism was some Skull and Bones style secret sect that had something to do with the storm and the occult.
So there was a lot of us _LiSbians_ who believed that the Prescotts were doing really terrible things within their compound (Human sacrifice? Stealing souls through photos?) , running the Vortex Club which was a Secret Society of Occultists,trying to steal some powers granted by a divine presence, and destroy the town by summoning the storm so they can begin anew. (Ties into the Prescotts legacy of colonization.)
Our disappointment was immeasurable when the final episode dropped and half the storylines and mysteries had no resolution.
Another thing about Stella drugging Warren is that if you look in his cup it's like bright green goo lol it doesn't even look like beer
YOU CAN LOOK IN HIS CUP??
@@Thenumber1alphamalewarren I'm pretty sure when he takes a pic of him and Max, you can see what's in it 😓
@@ellxur. HWATTTT I NEED TO REPLAY CUZ WTF 😨
Been in this fandom for almost 10 years now and these theories still managed to shock me. Amazing video :)
8:58 just with this point about Victoria, I though Max had undone that choice regardless whether she warns Victoria or not at the Vortex Party when she rewinds with Warrens photo selfie and the whole instance of convincing Chloe not to go to the party cause of everything that happens, therefore removing the chance to warn Victoria and her ending up in the Darkroom.
Side note:
Been loving these videos!
I’m so glad to see Life is strange theory videos back, it was one of the funnest parts of playing the first game
As others have said, I'm loving the LiS content. However, this does beg the question: When are you going to do a LiS playthrough on your channel? If you're concerned about not having "fresh reactions" because you've played the games before, then maybe you can rope in a friend to play them, and you can provide commentary and/or ask questions of the person playing while they go through? Personally, I don't mind watching someone play through a game they've played before as long as they can provide interesting info about the game or have compelling thoughts to share.
Also, if you're ever interested in branching out to other games, might I recommend What Remains of Edith Finch, Hollow Knight, and Signalis. All three of those are rich with character, lore, and unanswered questions.
For me the Nathan messaging Max part is because he probably sent her a voice note right before he was killed by Jefferson in the junkyard, Jefferson then takes his phone and texts Max through it (the plothole would be that Max hasn’t received the voice note even though she received “Nathan’s” message telling her and Chloe to go to the junkyeard) but let’s say it was a connection issue, and when Mark drugged Max and killed Chloe, he turned off their phones, and took Max to the bunker (where there’s no cell service) when she gets out she gets back the service alongside Nathan’s belated message about being murdered by Jefferson
Didn't chloe receive the message
@@Dolphin2048 you’re right, but the plot hole still stands, how come Jefferson sent this to Chloe through Nathan’s phone & Nathan still managed to record the voice message..?
@@hmody360_2 because he recorded it before the message?... you guys realize messages can go unread for days right... doesn't mean it JUST went thru lol
@@NerdsPsychoticInterlude we’re saying this because it was a voice note (I think) and not just a normal voice message, voice note notifications are sent right after they’re recorded, so if you think about it Nathan might’ve not died when Jefferson was in the Junkyard at the end of episode 4, he probably killed him right after or before(most likely before) killing Chloe and capturing Max, since after that Max is in the bunker and wouldn’t get a signal until after escaping from the dark room.
@@hmody360_2 you're judging this by 2024 standards instead of 2015 standards. it WAS NOT a voice note; we didn't even have those yet. it was a VOICEMAIL. those usually went unread for a long time and the notifications for them frequently got lost.
as someone who's always wanted to make their own life is strange videos, I love creators like you that are passionate about it
I'd like to think there was originally going to be more to Ep 5. The thing I really hated about the ending was that to save AB you have to undo the entire game, as if Max and the player never existed. It also bugged me that Max's first storm vision was before she discovered her power, leading me ro think the storm was inevitable.
I heard there was supposed to be 8 episodes or originally 🥲 how crazy that would have been!!
As much as I played, and watch other people play LIS. I never thought once about Stella being involved with Mr.Jefferson or the things you talked about with Nathan. These were some great insights on a lot of things I didn't think about until now
I feel like they wanted to go more in depth on the background and how powers in life is strange exist but they didn’t have the budget or time to do it all. So I feel like that’s what double exposure is going to be
It would be interest if, at some point in the next 20 years, it'll get a remake like a lot of old games currently are. Would be cool to see the content cut due to time constraints etc added back in along with fixing plot holes and whatever it is they were originally going for with the potential merging timelines etc.
Ok but hear me out.
What if Rachel was the female accomplice and not Stella?
Maybe she wasn't a victim of Jefferson, maybe she kept up with his antics because of their relationship or for other reasons. Maybe she was gaslighted or manipulated, maybe she was supposedly connected to the entire "supernatural" topic considering it was heavily hinted that she had at least some kind of powers. But then she somehow ended up knowing too much about something (possibly the real plan of the Prescott) and was eliminated? Idk i'm kinda yapping rn, but that is something that always crossed my mind considering how much Rachel was presented as a morally grey character (at least in the first game, not talking about BtS).
As a bonus: i'm not sure if she was already gone when Kate was drugged, but that would be food for toughts. Would explain why she was able to get in the dorm without anyone noticing or being suspicious.
I am pretty sure its mentioned that Nathan killed her because he tried to mimic Mr Jeffersons work and while doing that he overdressed her. That probably the reason we see him so distressed from the beginning and him felling sorry for her death on the voice mail. Rachel knew something of mr Jefferson but if we go by the person of before the storm that didnt take anything really seriously besides threats it would be not unlikely that she thought nothing would happen to her.
Victoria will be alive no matter what your decision is in the ending of the first game:
When max used Warren's photo of them to go back to before going to the party, you never talk to Victoria, and the only way for Victoria to be captured and murdered by Jefferson is if and only if, you tell her about the dark room and she believes you. As when she knows she's in danger she goes to Jefferson for help and she is taken because he knows she knows about Nathan being dangerous, he may have also assumed and overestimated how much she knows about the dark room, as Max told her about being in danger.
That's not exactly what happened, but in order to explain: SPOILERS AHEAD for Life is Strange 2:
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Victoria actually still gets kidnapped by Jefferson in the timeline Max creates using Warren's photo to avoid getting ambushed in the junkyard. Remember that Victoria was going to be Jefferson's next victim originally, so when Max and Chloe didn't show up at the party to prompt him to make Max his main target, he went ahead with his original plan to drug and kidnap Victoria. However, Max and Chloe warned David and he rescued Victoria with the help of two cops before Jefferson could do anything to her. David and Victoria, and presumably Jefferson and the cops survived the storm by staying in the bunker until it was over. This sequence of events is confirmed in the "Sacrifice Arcadia Bay" timeline in Episode 5 of Life is Strange 2.
@@rofald Where is this evident in LIS 2 episode 5?
@@rofald Actually, I've found the evidence myself. It's very small yet, I understand now. I'm unsure if it was just the party alone that prompted Jefferson to take Max and prefer her over Victoria, there was most likely other events throughout the week where he noticed her "optimistic aura" and "innocence"
@@SpyroTheGoth By the time Max and Chloe got to the party, Jefferson knew that they had seen the Dark Room and Rachel's burial site, so he HAD to go after them before they told someone what they had seen. He probably tried the ploy with Nathan's phone to lure them to the junkyard in both the pre- and post- Warren's photo realities, but it didn't work in the post-photo reality. It seems in the post-photo reality Jefferson thought that when Max and Chloe failed to show up at the junkyard that they wouldn't go to the cops until the next day at the earliest, so he went ahead with his plans to photograph Victoria. He probably figured that he could deal with Max and Chloe later since he had no reason to believe that they knew that he was the mastermind behind the Dark Room operation. He thought they only knew about Nathan's involvement.
@@rofald I already got that part, I was just seeing if you did. Good to see a fellow person who drowns themselves in the details and isn't confused by them, I had just missed the letter from Victoria in the second game, or at least forgot about it. In the first game there's no evidence of this, so all that tells us that is the letter from #2
this video is so well-made! really loved watching it :)
Thank you! Ngl I've followed your content for a little bit myself. Love your videos!
ME TOO! i like reading old discussion between people about life is strange. because at that time they shows how much they appreciate the little details about the game and talk about characters that a lot of people don't care about since you only can talk to them three times but the fandom make their characters more interesting with their theories
Technical Rachel has a power not like max power but a different one as when she gets stabbed and get in the hospital the fire that she started in the beginning it stops because we can hear two firefighters talking about the fire just extinguished with no reason
This is definitely my favourite channel.
Just recently replayed/finally played fully through and I love the deep dive. I was so curious what the Stella tie in was; can't wait to watch more!
I love the little pauses of the music when you say something then correct it it's such a small detail but I love it
listen coming into this video and immediately seeing the merch flex is hilarious. good video man 👍
I love Life is strange 1 and before the storm but i didn’t like 2 or True colors so im glad to have found someone talking about life is strange 1 in 2024
I just discovered your channel, and I GASPED when I saw you didn’t even have a thousand subscribers! You truly have what it takes to make it far on here! You talk in a comforting way, and you get to the point of the video instead of rambling on and on. You’re very well put together and professional. I really enjoy your content!
I wish you so much good luck on TH-cam!!
Also, you should totally go over Life is Strange 2! I would absolutely love to learn more about the game that I might have missed the first few times!
Im really hoping theyre hiding a LOT from Double Exposure and a lot of the missing symbolism is revealed in the 2nd game.
Also, I'd like to add that originally there was gonna be 7-8 episodes, multiple devs have mentioned that. I theorize that they originally had episodes 5,6,7 and 8 explore the supernatural elements and the symbolism. But they were forced/had too cut all that content and try to wrap it up in Episode 5, which is why the Chaos Theory stuff never getting concrete confirmation and how so much about Max, Jefferson, and the Prescotts is still up in the air
I think you’re right on your way to success! Keep working towards this channel and I’ll be here to keep up
I've been WAITING for this !!!!!
I love these theories! i usually theorize more about the psychology of each character and why they behave as they do, and i havent heard as many theories on the actual time mechanics of the game and its world! Definitely new and original
I think a big thing why I think a lot of the game seems rushed or plot lines don’t make sense, could be mixing different drafts together or the team not keeping up with each other working on different episodes. I also think it could be they didn’t know where from A to B was going, so they made it up as they went. I bet a big chuck of this was making mysteries that even the Devs didn’t know (like trying to make mysteries on the game, like why someone would kill/kidnap/done whatever to Rachel without actually planning out what happened to her). TV shows have this issue, ones that have ongoing mysteries (Pretty Little Liars definitely did, taking a lot of ideas from the novels and then ditching the novels mostly in later seasons, which contrasts the idea they set up). I think even the way Rachel is this good girl with rough around the edges persona was kind of dropped in LIS:BTS, which I think makes her seem off.
My theory with Rachel is that she did have powers, but maybe has issues with them and maybe started taking drugs and fell in love with Frank and Chloe to numb her powers (not saying she didn’t love them, but she had issues that made those relationships like a drug unto themselves), since they all are related to drugs. Maybe she got wrapped up with Nathan, because of money and maybe he got her drugs (and likely they has mutual friends) and she fell for Jefferson, because maybe she saw like a father figure in him (her home life seemed liked she didn’t really have a great relationship with her parents). I think she was dealing with emotional issues upon having powers that lead her into arms of people not good for her.
This is one of the strangest lives ever
I'd like to see all the LIS games done by you, both talking about them, and playing.
my theory on the Nathan is that Nathan left his coat in the dark room, Jefferson went after him, Nathan got away and Jefferson use Nathans phone which was in his coat pocket to lure max in. max is drugged in the dark room while Nathan used someone else's phone to leave a voice mail for max. it's the only way this makes sense, timeline wise. the call was also lower quality and he called instead of texting so i think he was using a corded phone. how he had her number memorized, i got no clue but i'm convinced that he made the call while she was in that chair
Great video! I'm here for all the life is strange content. Loved #1 and before the storm.
You've got a very soothing voice to listen to!
I would love to see a video about the before the storm theories 😊
omg i loved this video! ive been a lis fan for yeears and feel like ive heard every take and exhausted all the 'fun new' content rel8ing to it. but that was before i saw this !! i would love to see any and every video you mentioned wanting to make ( also i love that you already have it mapped out i see you structured king ) so please keep at it ☆ can't wait to see more !!
Stella is also given a job to do coat check by mr Jefferson. She has connections to him.
I love this video and all of your theories! I could totally see the supernatural aspect of it! Wish they would've delved deeper into that
Oh hell yeah this totally revitalised all my excitement over the theories that we had leading into Episode 5. I’m a Prescott’s-were-in-on-the-storm truther! It makes the most sense!
Hey, man. Twenty seconds in, and the first glimpse of you already hooked me. There’s something about your vibe, something that is cool. I’ll tuck this video away, I promise to revisit it later.
in life is strange before the storm they could’ve added how Rachel ended up in the dark room. Developers don’t stick to the who?, what?, and why? Plot anymore. They want us to create our own theories. It’s a lot of questions in the game like how did max get these random powers, why didn’t max and Chloe go straight to the police once they found Rachel’s body? ( yes, I know why But realistically speaking) Nathan would’ve confessed. One of my main theories I have is if Rachel was not deceased Chloe will turn her back on Max. In before the storm we see why Chloe was so mad at max but it wasn’t her fault for leaving. The only problem max did wrong was not keeping her word and basically ghosting her. When max has a nightmare we see evil max and what goes on in maxs head. Chloe uses her past and why everyone leaves her as a manipulation Tatic. Although she does love max, She was in love with Rachel. Which makes me believes that Chloe would’ve ran away with Rachel, If it was an alternative reality. That’s why I never chose Chloe at the end because it was a selfish choice.I would love to see a life is strange before missing Rachel story. I feel like her story was rushed by developers because we never knew how she went missing. People may be biased by the making of that gameplay if they make it. But, she literally is one of the main characters, lol. I want to see her pov and how she actually felt about Chloe, how she met frank, and what was the whole thing with her and mark Jefferson if they were ever a “thing” that he claims and others.
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What a great episode!
Great video. I really liked this theory? i mean, sure it has alot of determinants and unused contents, even some stretchs. But its better than the usual theory that just uses the in-game content to a really narrow thing in the end. Good job
if you could review "Who's lila" i'd love to see what you think about it. Its a really complex game, with several endings that are also "dialogue" based. It has alot of supernatural and science to it too, depending on the ending. From cultists to straightforward Ego/Superego/ID study. (i mean, in general, it has alot of complexity and its really open for interpretation unlike other games that leaves things over-explained)
dontnod confirmed the doe is rachel
as far as im concerned, the Nathan voice line cut about the storm was an alternate sequence of that phone call he sends max, a version where he doesn't feel sympathetic and is still upset about his situation and venting to her angrily as he did before, and I believe the "wooded area" is simply the concert hall / warehouse from the start of BTS as its likely he was doing his own dealing there
Thanks for this intelligent and logical theorizing about the missing pieces of this game! I was particularly interested in Stella's role and agree that she probably had a bigger part to play originally considering how prominent her name in Frank's account book is. She was buying harder stuff even more frequently than even Nathan! If the devs had chosen to explore her in depth, we would have found out she had quite a secret life behind her façade as a quiet studious person. Another minor character I wonder about is Luke Parker the one-note "I hate Nathan" boy. Given how unnecessary he is, I wonder if he was originally supposed to play a greater role, but by the time the devs realized they didn't really know what to do with him it was more trouble than it was worth to remove him from the game.
I love these talking videossss, you be answering my questions about the game 😭🫰
New to your channel do.like life is strange looking forward to the new one👍👍
the goat is back at it again
keep up with this type of content!!! just gained another subscriber 😁
Stella always gave me bad vibes
I'm loving your videos. I'm a big LiS fan and seeing videos like this again makes me so happy.
I have some other things to think about :
The name Katie in Frank's book and Victoria Calling Kate Katie when she talks to Jefferson.
The bus ticket in Kate's Locker in the pool during episode two was she thinking about leaving or did someone put it there?
Nathan seemed drugged too in the picture of him and Rachel's Body.
I thought that the fact that Nathan's car was green was like a way of Jefferson to hide the fact that he got rid of it. Also the fact that I find it weird to see Nathan's Psychiatrist's letter in the dark room as well as his jacket. (my theory is that he's already dead when Max and Chloe goes to the barn) but I like the idea of multiple realities. Since it seems like one reality took over in the two moons scene.
There's also unused audio of Nathan complaining about his head. What if he had powers too? And could see the future or at least the storm.
What if all the meds he takes are to block his powers or enhance it?
(also the gun is probably a gift from Jefferson so what if Jefferson told Nathan to kill Chloe?)
Samuel seems to know a lot too and he has pics of Rachel and a silk scarf?
David's stock of food in the price's garage does knows at least something about the storm?
I'm sure Rachel was an accomplice even after before the storm I'm actually more sure about this SINCE before the storm
Also the voicelines in the nightmare in ep 5 I think some of the dialogues are some that could have been from other realities (like wells saying that mrs price thinks she can come to Blackwell with her wheelchair "
Also Nathan's father HAS to know about what Jefferson is doing in the darkroom at least a bit.
You have my subscription noer Im so hyped for the release of Double Exposure
i personally like life is strange before the storm more than the first one.
This is a compliment btw, you look like a Life is Strange character
You have so much potential ! I know for a fact you will have lots and lots of subscibers soon 💜🌸 keep up the good work 💗
Your videos are almost as good as your hair ❤
This is the first video of yours I watch and I already love your channel and your commentary !! I subbed
the video clip seems interesting, but I will watch it when I have time
goated content creation.
Just to point out that the game have A LOT of cut content, and I really mean it... This game was supossed to have 8 episodes but he had 5 and the last was rushed... so somewhere in dontnod headquarters Michael Koch, Roaul Barbet and Chistian Divine have the brutal material that they wrote for this game... And have all the aswers for the questions that we have. But we never ever will have in the light of day
Nathan’s phone message can be before he died
Ahhh im excited for the before the storm video!! And the cut content videos as well!
I loved this video! Also you look a bit like David Bowie
Great video, excited to see the community active again. You gained a sub 👍🏻
One thing has been bothering me since the beginning. David Madsen started working at the school before Rachel's death. David had a lot of information. GPS datas, locations, photos, etc. Why couldn't he figured anything out? Why didn't he goes to any of the Vortex Club parties? Then he could have seen Nathan take the girls.
i always thought rachel had something to do with the storm like it was her revenge but after hearing the Nathan Prescott voicline WHY WOULDNT they add this supernatural layer to the game??
As you mentioned, I'd love to see you cover the Oxenfree games as well! And when LiS Double Exposure comes out, it'd be cool to see you cover that or just do a livestream playthrough of it on here (if you are comfortable with that)
One point that I ask myself since the first time I playes the game is:
Why do the fish in the classroom doesn't come to the glaas of the fish Tank when Max touched the glass?
The first thing I thought was, that Max is dead and everything is just in her head 😅
great video!!!❤❤❤
WHEN LIFETRANGE DOUBLE EXPOSURE "cut content"
That will be a while yet. Definitely after October because we don't even know the whole storyline of that game yet
@@SpyroTheGoth i was just joking btw but happy to hear btw
@@oreosoreos XD, I don't have a good filter
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Hey good video! But I kind of think we should give more importance to the alternate realities, mostly because of the scene with the "other Maxs" that shows that all the timelines kept going even if she rewinded.
The only theory that I hate is that Max could save Arcadia Bay and Chloe. I think that is losing the weight of your choices, including the last one. It's okay choose Chloe instead of Arcadia Bay, you're letting a lot of people die, but you don't have the duty to save them. And It's okay to be the good guy and save Arcadia Bay. We just can't forget that choices have consequences. I startes thinking that way, just because of the butterfly effect. Chloe is the butterfly that can cause a tornado just flipping wings and that is the game. I wish the fanbase stops to try find relieve about sacrifice Chloe or sacrifice Arcadia Bay. It's the same about TLOU, Joel condemn the humanity to save Ellie and it's okay, he know the price of letting the girl lives and we must know the cost of both decisions in this game, that is the beuty with the LiS1's ending.
Так, посмотрим же!
@Noer so Victoria is alive because Max and Chloe go back in time after Max's nightmare and Max wasn't captured but Victoria was. everything that happened in one's gameplay of LiS still happens up until after the vortex party because Chloe and Max don't go to the junkyard. So Victoria is kidnapped but instead of David saving Max, he saves Victoria instead.
would love to see the oxenfree videos!! especially oxenfree 2 ✊✊
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Regarding Theory #1: Stella had some neck beard vibes. She very well could have been planning on photographing Warren, but spared him when she saw the tornado.
Hey Noer! I’ve just wanted to say your Life is Strange content is amazing. Your uncut content stuff is amazing. The voicemail by Nathan you were talking about was is also very interesting. How did he send the voicemail?
awesome content!
Jefferson said he took care of Victoria ? Victoria in the dark room is determinate. I’m confused. I don’t remember him saying that. What happens with Victoria? If she believe you, I don’t remember. What does Jefferson say then? I think Victoria. Probably survives both outcomes.
If you warn her about Nathan, she goes to Jefferson, he kidnaps her, then eventually kills her
Great video
Also I am all for Oxenfree video ❤
As u sad there’s not many videos discussing this game which is a shame
Oxenfree is one of my favorite games please do a video on that one.
NOT enough half way and i love this video already ahh aha this is my favourite game GOAT.
Would love to hear someone comment on the nature of Max's scholarship to Blackwell.
She would have submitted examples of her retro Polaroid selfies.
Which would have been judged by Mark Jefferson. Jefferson, on seeing Max's innocence would have wanted to add her image to his collection.
In essence, Max's submission for a scholarship to a serial perv put her on Jefferson's list.
What better way for a predator with power to lure his prey?
Bastard.
Omg where did you get all those Life Is Strange magazines??
nathan’s rich wouldn’t be surprised if he had 2 phones or 3 lol . remember an episode four you have to go into his dorm to steal his phone? And then you get a text from him right after you leave . lmao
Awesome video dude
Awsome vid 🤙🏼
inb4 this explodes :D
about the kate drugging, its worth noting that Kate didnt get drugged by an SPECIFIC vortex club member, its more seen as an "planned prank" towards the "puritane christian" that lectures them about their sins. So if warren had been drugged, it could also be another "prank" from the vortex in general
And nathan messages, i believe, can be seen as a plothole. But i've always seen it as the message delaying, as if he was a in remote area trying to hide from jefferson, and only really getting to max phone after him dying and jefferson specifically sending the messages to lure them.
And i dont think its specified that both the messages Jefferson uses to lure max and chloe were from nathan phone? i may be missing something sorry. And the voicemail wasnt "from your contact list" specified, its just a voicemail that has been received at that hour, that max couldnt really pickup. It could have been ANY other cellphone nathan had, and returning to the most commonly hole gap that the voicemail simply delayed until getting to max phone.
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And jefferson didnt believe nathan would learn his art, he believes nathan has skills with shadows, but overall lacks the love for his sick hobbie. Its more like, Nathan wanting to learn how to be a better photographer and his father moving some sticks for jefferson to learn him specifically etc...
Idk, Nathan being his protege is more like "He is useful for me right now, so i'll keep grooming him into being more calm and behave better to get my approval and for me to tell his father nice things about him." Which could explain why we dont see nathan father, he doesnt believe that nathan is behaving so erratically, while his sister is worried about him he doesnt reply back. Which further indicates jefferson manipulation.
Idk its more of a hunch and being more headcanon than theorizing, some things may make sense under this perspective but there are several others thing that needs to be analyzed when this perspective is in the play.
I hope you are crazy enough to endorse Asteroid Theory for Double Exposure.
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@@KryzysX Daniel trained with rocks. The meteor shower we see in Double Exposure is rocks. Let's say the planet is hit by an asteroid/meteor in one timeline and then Max goes back in time with Photo Focus (to the time she took the photo where she appears to go unconscious for a bit) and sets things up so that the asteroid can be deflected or disintegrated [by Daniel]. Something like that.
@@Dreamprism I think you've made it way off the line...
@@KryzysX We will see. 🤷♂️
@@KryzysX Fwiw I just noticed that a little under 2 weeks ago Serrated Cucumber on TH-cam posted a video with the Photo Focus and asteroid impact aspects of my theory.
He didn't mentioned Daniel, but I think that still qualifies as an Asteroid Theory.
I didn't realize til an hour ago that he posyed that video, or I would've mentioned it in my initial comment. Feel free to look it up.
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