I didn't know people don't think Anya's SA was real...i remember people saying that Anya and Jimmy had a one night stand and that's still disgusting, but my god. We don't need an explicit scene. Subtext is good enough, because why would the creator put in more context for something that should not be. I would rather not have a full on SA scene, no matter if it's vague or not. This game is metaphors on top of subtext. Anya's SA was handled so good that if that SA scene were too happen in full, i would not talk about this game so much. Once you show off a mystery instead of looking into it, then it looses all meaning and impact.
Also 32:11 It also is him double oversights because he used the actual disinfection to make the mocktail!! Which could have killed Swansea...I don't even wanna think about the alternate path where Swansea actually dies from that Mocksville, leaving Jimmy to take care of Daisuke. As Swansea said, Daisuke would be alive but suffering a more slow and painful death if Jimmy had his way.
32:15 I didn't even realize that! With Jimmy ignoring what Anya said about the Mouthwash not being a viable disinfectant... I absolutely love how Mouthwashing approaches ingame things- Like there is a plot relevant reason why Jimmy knows how to spike someone's drink without causing physical damage. Most games, they don't explain how- say- your character in a survival game somehow knows how to make a knife from scratch....or how they are able to climb that high... People don't even take issue with it because "It's a game". This sets the bar so low that our standards don't demand better or even think about wanting better... Mouthwashing doesn't take that as a viable excuse. Even more so, they make this aspect an important part of the narrative instead of being meta-narrative negligence.
I interpreted the Polle on the mound of mouthwash scene as Polle being kind of a mix of a representation of both Anya and the baby (I would even argue it's just the baby, seeing as Jimmy feels so little for Anya that really the only representation we get of her in his hallucinations is a deformed and monstrous looking womb). I can't remember what Polle specifically says but it's along the lines of "What should I call you? Old Man? Seems a bit above your pay grade." This makes me think that Polle is saying "should i call you dad? even tho you don't deserve it" because of the assault. Even in his hallucinations, Anya doesn't even get to have her voice heard. Jimmy is truly sick. Edit: I also think that this Polle is a representation of Anya and the baby is because Jimmy tells Polle that he's going to take responsibility and he talks about Curly and how he'll take care of him and how good of a person Curly is. He says like "I fucked up but i can still make it right" but he's only talking about the crash. And Jimmy goes on to quote Anya about our worst moments but Polle interupts him saying "If all of that is true, Why are you still so concerned with him?" The him is italicized and talking about Curly. This is because jimmy is only taking responsibility for Curly not for what he did against Anya. Polle is asking him that if he is truly willing to take responsibility, why hasn't he addressed what he did to Anya.
i loved the theories so much, one thing I'd like to say is, yea i do believe that Anya is a strong, hard working person but the often times she is portrayed as not being one, like her moments of weakness (except from the later parts where we find out about what jimmy did to her) i think all that insecurity and that timidness only stems from the fact that she feels underqualified. Swansea, jimmy and curly are more or less qualified for the job though some of them might not be the best people (cough jimmy cough) they're still qualified, Daisuke is a whole another thing because of his semi-optimistic view on life even if it is just surface level, he is pretty outgoing but yes he wouldn't stand up for himself if he was questioned, LIKE when jimmy was forcing him to climb up the vent even though Swansea had always told them not to, he did at first resist but in the end he caved since jimmy forced him and he didn't stand up. Anya, being someone that's not qualified thinks that she's not a stakeholder when it comes to stuff and is thus subdued by the other characters (JIMMY) now I'm not saying she needs to be stronger boo-hoo what if you're underqualified, no because yea she does have a fire in her like we see in the passive aggressive moments and as it is presented in the nightmare but her fire is kinda extinguished due to her being underqualified, which again is truly only Pony Express's fault so yeah i think that's interesting
The thing with the gun (and EVERY WEAPON) is that they're all supposed to be locked. The gun is specifically assigned to the captain IN CASE OF A MUTINY. It's not encouraging violence, it's worse: the captain is expected to BE a petty tyrant and the only one who can kill if his crew MUTINIES; in that case the "safety" of only TWO rooms in the entire ship locking also make sense: literally, no one can hide away from the captain or defend themselves from the captain. The captain even gets the two safest places in the ship to hide into: the medbay, where he can patch himself up, and the cockpit, where there's all the supplies needed to suppress a mutiny at GUNPOINT (the nylon cord would be used to tie someone up, or multiple someones up-- either the one mutinying or a HOSTAGE to deter the rest of the crew if they all want to mutiny and bumrush him. Curly is shown (through the inventory text description on the knife) to actually be lenient as a captain, because the knife should ALSO be locked down or only in his possession, same with the axe not being supposed to be left to Swansea. Also important are the Polle posters' HR notes (I don't know if Jimmy reads the fine print but Curly does when he interacts with them. The "Lend a hand!" one explains that ANY HR COMPLAINT made might result in EVERYONE BEING PUNISHED, further enforcing the crew as a captive audience to the captain (and that further builds to Jimmy's beliefs that Curly thinks himself above the others and how Jimmy acts when he's captain, like somehow he's in control of everything everyone does and he should be treated like a king). I'd eat my socks if Curly's post-employment job references and commemoration he was going to get per dev Q&A aren't because he's the ONLY Pony Express captain that didn't have a mutiny on his employment record. Also to draw you a free contrast between Curly and Jimmy: if like you said Curly is representing "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" (or another sentence that also fits him: "For evil to triumph requires only that good men do nothing."), then Jimmy's sentence would be, "He's only sorry he gets caught."
Actually the card the shows up in the hall hallucination is Curly's, i think you got a lucky instance where you can not only see Anya's face (she's usually covered by other cards) but the top of Curly's card too, which show we weren't meant to see his face there lol. Did you take the screenshot yourself or found it somewhere else?
One of the theories I like about Swansea is that he doesn’t attack jimmy, and he doesn’t attack jimmy because he outright states he no longer cares after Daisuke’s death. Honestly by that point I personally believe he probably wants jimmy to kill him, or at least something to kill him, because he’s obviously lost all hope. But Jimmy watched him kill Daisuke, so in Jimmy’s mind, Swansea is a killer, and so his killing Swansea is now justified, and he doesn’t have to feel guilt for it. The conversation that takes place after the graveyard chase is most likely what actually happened-Jimmy approached Swansea with the gun while Swansea was drinking at the table, and Swansea decides to give him a speech before he goes. I highly doubt Swansea would have the motivation to fight back by that point in the game, which is probably why I like the theory so much. I love that the game doesn’t outright tell you what happened, though, because it’s just such good storytelling
Daisuke having a spanish surname like Juarez kinda makes me think he's half latino and half japanese and that kinda reminded me of Amuro Rey from the Gundam series, who's canonically Canadian and likely has Mexican ancestry. Just had to get this thought out there hehe
Great video! What are your thoughts on the theory that Jimmy was drugging Anya? I've seen people point this out because 1) he knew how to make Swansea a cocktail to knock him out and 2) Anya seems "comfortable" around Jimmy before she realizes she's pregnant which some think it's because she was unaware of the assault or assaults. I say comfortable in quotes because i don't think she's actually comfortable around him but she can tolerate him. I also think the way she acts towards him in the post crash scenes are just her way of trying to not set him off. I think there's hints that she might be into psychology so she's using tactics to protect herself in some way. Praise him for even the bare minimum and he won't lash out since he is clearly more and more unstable post crash. Anyways loved hearing your thoughts and I'm a HUGE life is strange fan so I'm going to indulge in the rest of your videos!
curly cosplay will go hard asf
right!! i feel like he looks like curly. :)
The note with the gun literally implies that the captain should shoot/kill if crew members get unruly, Pony Express does not care!
I didn't know people don't think Anya's SA was real...i remember people saying that Anya and Jimmy had a one night stand and that's still disgusting, but my god. We don't need an explicit scene. Subtext is good enough, because why would the creator put in more context for something that should not be. I would rather not have a full on SA scene, no matter if it's vague or not. This game is metaphors on top of subtext. Anya's SA was handled so good that if that SA scene were too happen in full, i would not talk about this game so much. Once you show off a mystery instead of looking into it, then it looses all meaning and impact.
Also 32:11 It also is him double oversights because he used the actual disinfection to make the mocktail!! Which could have killed Swansea...I don't even wanna think about the alternate path where Swansea actually dies from that Mocksville, leaving Jimmy to take care of Daisuke. As Swansea said, Daisuke would be alive but suffering a more slow and painful death if Jimmy had his way.
What if he subverts our expectations and cosplays as Whitesuke
My hatred for jimmy grows stronger every day
“i know what you are” sent chills down my spine! adore these discussions, it scratches an itch in my brain lmao
32:15 I didn't even realize that! With Jimmy ignoring what Anya said about the Mouthwash not being a viable disinfectant... I absolutely love how Mouthwashing approaches ingame things- Like there is a plot relevant reason why Jimmy knows how to spike someone's drink without causing physical damage. Most games, they don't explain how- say- your character in a survival game somehow knows how to make a knife from scratch....or how they are able to climb that high... People don't even take issue with it because "It's a game". This sets the bar so low that our standards don't demand better or even think about wanting better... Mouthwashing doesn't take that as a viable excuse. Even more so, they make this aspect an important part of the narrative instead of being meta-narrative negligence.
I interpreted the Polle on the mound of mouthwash scene as Polle being kind of a mix of a representation of both Anya and the baby (I would even argue it's just the baby, seeing as Jimmy feels so little for Anya that really the only representation we get of her in his hallucinations is a deformed and monstrous looking womb). I can't remember what Polle specifically says but it's along the lines of "What should I call you? Old Man? Seems a bit above your pay grade." This makes me think that Polle is saying "should i call you dad? even tho you don't deserve it" because of the assault. Even in his hallucinations, Anya doesn't even get to have her voice heard. Jimmy is truly sick.
Edit: I also think that this Polle is a representation of Anya and the baby is because Jimmy tells Polle that he's going to take responsibility and he talks about Curly and how he'll take care of him and how good of a person Curly is. He says like "I fucked up but i can still make it right" but he's only talking about the crash. And Jimmy goes on to quote Anya about our worst moments but Polle interupts him saying "If all of that is true, Why are you still so concerned with him?" The him is italicized and talking about Curly. This is because jimmy is only taking responsibility for Curly not for what he did against Anya. Polle is asking him that if he is truly willing to take responsibility, why hasn't he addressed what he did to Anya.
i loved the theories so much, one thing I'd like to say is, yea i do believe that Anya is a strong, hard working person but the often times she is portrayed as not being one, like her moments of weakness (except from the later parts where we find out about what jimmy did to her) i think all that insecurity and that timidness only stems from the fact that she feels underqualified. Swansea, jimmy and curly are more or less qualified for the job though some of them might not be the best people (cough jimmy cough) they're still qualified, Daisuke is a whole another thing because of his semi-optimistic view on life even if it is just surface level, he is pretty outgoing but yes he wouldn't stand up for himself if he was questioned, LIKE when jimmy was forcing him to climb up the vent even though Swansea had always told them not to, he did at first resist but in the end he caved since jimmy forced him and he didn't stand up. Anya, being someone that's not qualified thinks that she's not a stakeholder when it comes to stuff and is thus subdued by the other characters (JIMMY) now I'm not saying she needs to be stronger boo-hoo what if you're underqualified, no because yea she does have a fire in her like we see in the passive aggressive moments and as it is presented in the nightmare but her fire is kinda extinguished due to her being underqualified, which again is truly only Pony Express's fault so yeah i think that's interesting
Curly post-crash cosplay would be something...
Also, man's name is Jimmy Jimmy lol
I’m excited to see someone covering this game in more detail because watching a play through of it for the first time left me shook
As a German i really did not expect „Mensch ärgere dich nicht“ on Here😂😭
The thing with the gun (and EVERY WEAPON) is that they're all supposed to be locked. The gun is specifically assigned to the captain IN CASE OF A MUTINY.
It's not encouraging violence, it's worse: the captain is expected to BE a petty tyrant and the only one who can kill if his crew MUTINIES; in that case the "safety" of only TWO rooms in the entire ship locking also make sense: literally, no one can hide away from the captain or defend themselves from the captain. The captain even gets the two safest places in the ship to hide into: the medbay, where he can patch himself up, and the cockpit, where there's all the supplies needed to suppress a mutiny at GUNPOINT (the nylon cord would be used to tie someone up, or multiple someones up-- either the one mutinying or a HOSTAGE to deter the rest of the crew if they all want to mutiny and bumrush him.
Curly is shown (through the inventory text description on the knife) to actually be lenient as a captain, because the knife should ALSO be locked down or only in his possession, same with the axe not being supposed to be left to Swansea.
Also important are the Polle posters' HR notes (I don't know if Jimmy reads the fine print but Curly does when he interacts with them. The "Lend a hand!" one explains that ANY HR COMPLAINT made might result in EVERYONE BEING PUNISHED, further enforcing the crew as a captive audience to the captain (and that further builds to Jimmy's beliefs that Curly thinks himself above the others and how Jimmy acts when he's captain, like somehow he's in control of everything everyone does and he should be treated like a king).
I'd eat my socks if Curly's post-employment job references and commemoration he was going to get per dev Q&A aren't because he's the ONLY Pony Express captain that didn't have a mutiny on his employment record.
Also to draw you a free contrast between Curly and Jimmy: if like you said Curly is representing "The road to hell is paved with good intentions" (or another sentence that also fits him: "For evil to triumph requires only that good men do nothing."), then Jimmy's sentence would be, "He's only sorry he gets caught."
Actually the card the shows up in the hall hallucination is Curly's, i think you got a lucky instance where you can not only see Anya's face (she's usually covered by other cards) but the top of Curly's card too, which show we weren't meant to see his face there lol.
Did you take the screenshot yourself or found it somewhere else?
One of the theories I like about Swansea is that he doesn’t attack jimmy, and he doesn’t attack jimmy because he outright states he no longer cares after Daisuke’s death. Honestly by that point I personally believe he probably wants jimmy to kill him, or at least something to kill him, because he’s obviously lost all hope. But Jimmy watched him kill Daisuke, so in Jimmy’s mind, Swansea is a killer, and so his killing Swansea is now justified, and he doesn’t have to feel guilt for it. The conversation that takes place after the graveyard chase is most likely what actually happened-Jimmy approached Swansea with the gun while Swansea was drinking at the table, and Swansea decides to give him a speech before he goes. I highly doubt Swansea would have the motivation to fight back by that point in the game, which is probably why I like the theory so much. I love that the game doesn’t outright tell you what happened, though, because it’s just such good storytelling
Daisuke having a spanish surname like Juarez kinda makes me think he's half latino and half japanese and that kinda reminded me of Amuro Rey from the Gundam series, who's canonically Canadian and likely has Mexican ancestry. Just had to get this thought out there hehe
Great video! What are your thoughts on the theory that Jimmy was drugging Anya? I've seen people point this out because 1) he knew how to make Swansea a cocktail to knock him out and 2) Anya seems "comfortable" around Jimmy before she realizes she's pregnant which some think it's because she was unaware of the assault or assaults. I say comfortable in quotes because i don't think she's actually comfortable around him but she can tolerate him. I also think the way she acts towards him in the post crash scenes are just her way of trying to not set him off. I think there's hints that she might be into psychology so she's using tactics to protect herself in some way. Praise him for even the bare minimum and he won't lash out since he is clearly more and more unstable post crash. Anyways loved hearing your thoughts and I'm a HUGE life is strange fan so I'm going to indulge in the rest of your videos!
Frfr you would look majestic as Curly
great work but the “U” in Daisuke is silent.
11:59 Pink? ô-ō You need to get checked for color blindness
I am actually color blind
Loved the video man!
you should also add a real description, BOY.