@Edgar Leonarz I think the detail he's referring to is how one part will either speed up or slow down by a few bpm to get to that polyrhythm. Steve used to play two tapes of the same thing and then manually slow one down slightly until it synced into the next polyrhythm and returned it to the same tempo.
At first I thought, "Wow, they really should've cleaned up that unison playing." Then I realized this was written by Steve Reich and dirtiness is written in.
+Josh Dilly I love the phase shifting. You think, okay what exactly is going on here, why is one of them slowing down? Then it all makes perfect sense just a few seconds later. Love love love Reich's compositions.
+fuck google plus Like you could play half as clean as these guys... Riiiiight. They're putting on a clinic and you're, well... just failing at trolling. So, troll on, Fail Troll, and keep practicing.
I referencing around the 1:57 mark where it is written to sound flammy. I'm not trying to troll anyone. Next time trying watching the video before jumping to the comment section.
You hear the tonal melodies of the drumming emerge with each player's entrance, and then linger in some skeletal form with each player's exit, reminding the listener that this most ancient craft - tribal percussion - lingers too in the minds of modern musicians, and perhaps always shall.
@turn7_boom You might want to reconsider how you phrase pretty much everything in that sentence, or at least inform yourself a bit better about this piece. At best your comment is ignorant; at worst, it's unintentionally racist. 1. this isn't "shamanic chants and stone age spirit incantations," it's based on modern Ewe drumming which is a dynamic and living practice of drumming and dancing among one of the ethnic tribes of Ghana. To liken it to "stone age spirit incantations" is to treat West African music as "primitive." This is how people thought in the late 19th century at the height of European Colonialism. 2. Reich isn't being "mathematical" in these rhythms...he's working based off existing African polyrhythms which are phased in a loose and somewhat improvised way. Any two groups playing this piece will manage that phasing slightly differently. The score even tells the drummers to gradually slide from the first rhythm to the out of phase rhythm, but it doesn't "mathematically" notate that transition. 3. This isn't "most modern," this piece is 50 years old.
@@brown9671 sorry, I didn't mean you to think I was replying to you! I was replying to the OP. Your comment was right on...the OP was out of line with his comment
A piece that needs to be seen as well as heard. Was amazed when I first saw it performed in the 80's and thanks to TH-cam, a wider audience can appreciate the visual aspect as well.
Holy, shit. That. Was. Insane. Like, what did I just stumbleupon? I was mesmerized and captivated, almost hypnotized even. Stellar performance. Bravo. BRAVO!
Such a clean execution of one of my favorite pieces of music for percussion ever! The precision of syncopation between all four members that is required for the clean execution of this piece is so incredibly difficult, but it is so beautifully hypnotic when performed as well as this group does. Great job to all!!! Additionally, it warmed my heart to see one of my fellow percussionists from the U of O School of Music in the lineup and playing so very, very well: shout-out to Brian Gardiner!
my dad showed me this back in 2019, a couple weeks before him and I performed _Clapping Music_ on typewriters at NMASS; I didn’t think that much of _Drumming_ until recently when I really got into Reich. knowing what I now know, this is such an incredible piece, and I’m super glad it’s had a nice long life so far by the way, I feel like some people underestimate how difficult this piece actually is. it’s incredibly easy to lose focus and forget where you are, and it can cause things to train-wreck really quickly
When I saw this performed, Reich explained that he had found transcriptions of west African drumming, including the exact ‘out of phase’ intervals. He used that to create this piece. I wish he’d do this with anglolan/ Brazilian drums…
What? That was my favourite part of the performance. I'm pretty sure it's the entire idea behind Reich's work. It's about the emergent sounds that happen when music is played in unusual ways
this is also a personality test to the musicians. at about 7:55 the fourth one enters and kind of 'disturbs' the order and harmony they had build up. he leaves at 8:19 to come back in at 8:30 by constantly becoming louder climaxing at 8:40 with a more simple beat so the others might realize he wants to join their group. .. amazing.. reich uses the percussive mantra of this tune to symbolize mankind as a being that belongs to and interacts in groups since the prehistoric time where we used the percussions while gathering round fires and merely being cavemen. this is so subtile but you can feel it.. i love it!!
I love how Steve Reich takes one beat, turns it into a pattern, and phases that pattern through all the different percussionists. I'm not a percussionist myself, but I am a music major, and this is so cool.
Hahahahaha that was a trip and a half!! The time signatures going out of sync creates the most enjoyable drum patterns. Phasing, reverb....that piece was SUPER HIGH quality. 100%
eventually the percussive sounds and the pitches of the drums become detached to the ear and even though you can still hear the sharp percussive noise, the pitches sound almost like a xylophone/marimba.
Não tem pra ninguem !!! muito Sério, Muito perfeito !!! AMÈRICA !!! The Land of The Promision !!!! Great Steve Reich !!! Great Portland Percussion Group !!!
+Joko Modus Yeah I have been doing this all morning. I have these Steve Reich videos playing and listening to other steve Reich on spotify at same time. its pretty cool how they just work together. not just drumming either.
Just love the sound of those rhythms speeding up to catch up with each other. I accidentally did something quite similar to this in a composition a few years ago. Wish I'd heard of this piece before then so I could have structured it a bit better haha
This is intense, visceral, brutal, savage, uncanny, ominous and masochistically precise. The ear those people have and the coordination of the phase shifts according to the sound outcome is way too much. The level of skill for this is INHUMAN.
Yes. It also reminds me of Taiko drumming with all the rhythmic phasing. Also naturalistic. The earliest deviations from the beat remind me of drops of rain, dripping of a ledge onto a bucket.
Rhrythm was the ever neglected issue through Middle Ages, Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romanticism. But in Modern and Contemporary classical music rhrythm is the "melody of durations", not the melody made of pitches anymore.
This sounds great. I remember searching for simply some sharp and simple music which'd be like clapping or tapping, and just that. Then I came across this which while not exactly what I was after, was really close. I love this because it's so nice to listen to. I don't get annoyed or anything that this is supposedly out of tune/sync (I don't notice)
Now that is discipline and concentration. And hard listening with all those unintended but unavoidable millisecond out-of-syncs. Wonderful : the beauty of near, but not absolute perfection.
Presumably this is just part 1? Anyway, I can only imagine how long this took to practice and perfect. These boys are so cool. I am simply phased by their phasing!
only a few patterns are used here. each player has to remember 2 or 3 patterns. than once a pattern is set - by switching a bit of starting points - another 2 will play improvizations of the tones used in the 2 overlapping pattern. Than join all 4 players. and certainly there is a build-up and build-down of the pattern, as you see. This is the basic idea of the piece. It is very interesting.
CannibalWHORE22 you can inherit an aptitude but it’s just love of the thing and practice “talent” doesn’t really exist to much in music(in my opinion) It’s different with things like running because you can inherit bone structure and the way muscle forms of course you can have a good ear naturally but that just helps you start off (all in my opinion)
I've just been listening and I looked at some of the comments. I couldn't care less who -if anyone- messed up, or when!! I find the music mesmerising. now it's finished I think I'll listen again, not so I can count beats but just so I can hear it again☺
The people who disliked are the people who were on set and noticed the second guy messed up the 827th beat because they spent way too much time preparing XD
Wow, the guys walking up will pick out a beat, and then leave, but I can still hear the beat as if they were still there playing it. Is that what's going on here, or have I been watching to many videos today...
let the sacrifices begin!
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OOGA BOOOOOOOOOGAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
"Hey, you know how you guys have practiced hitting the percussions exactly on beat every time for years?
You can forget all that now."
what
But this IS hitting the drums precisely on beat...
@Edgar Leonarz I think the detail he's referring to is how one part will either speed up or slow down by a few bpm to get to that polyrhythm. Steve used to play two tapes of the same thing and then manually slow one down slightly until it synced into the next polyrhythm and returned it to the same tempo.
At first I thought, "Wow, they really should've cleaned up that unison playing." Then I realized this was written by Steve Reich and dirtiness is written in.
+Josh Dilly
I love the phase shifting. You think, okay what exactly is going on here, why is one of them slowing down? Then it all makes perfect sense just a few seconds later. Love love love Reich's compositions.
+fuck google plus Like you could play half as clean as these guys... Riiiiight. They're putting on a clinic and you're, well... just failing at trolling. So, troll on, Fail Troll, and keep practicing.
I referencing around the 1:57 mark where it is written to sound flammy. I'm not trying to troll anyone. Next time trying watching the video before jumping to the comment section.
+Josh Dilly I believe he was referring to the comment by "fuck google plus"
A joke it is... and, as it is with so much "culture", hypnosis is its foundation. I like it but, that doesn't mean it's healthy.
You hear the tonal melodies of the drumming emerge with each player's entrance, and then linger in some skeletal form with each player's exit, reminding the listener that this most ancient craft - tribal percussion - lingers too in the minds of modern musicians, and perhaps always shall.
It's great how this most modern and mathematical of classical music manages to reach back to shamanic chants and stone age spirit incantations.
Turn7 Boom most music has it‘s roots somehow back there, I guess?
Bro what the fuck did you just say
@turn7_boom You might want to reconsider how you phrase pretty much everything in that sentence, or at least inform yourself a bit better about this piece. At best your comment is ignorant; at worst, it's unintentionally racist.
1. this isn't "shamanic chants and stone age spirit incantations," it's based on modern Ewe drumming which is a dynamic and living practice of drumming and dancing among one of the ethnic tribes of Ghana. To liken it to "stone age spirit incantations" is to treat West African music as "primitive." This is how people thought in the late 19th century at the height of European Colonialism.
2. Reich isn't being "mathematical" in these rhythms...he's working based off existing African polyrhythms which are phased in a loose and somewhat improvised way. Any two groups playing this piece will manage that phasing slightly differently. The score even tells the drummers to gradually slide from the first rhythm to the out of phase rhythm, but it doesn't "mathematically" notate that transition.
3. This isn't "most modern," this piece is 50 years old.
SmoothAtonalSound no one thinks you’re smart
@@brown9671 sorry, I didn't mean you to think I was replying to you! I was replying to the OP. Your comment was right on...the OP was out of line with his comment
A piece that needs to be seen as well as heard. Was amazed when I first saw it performed in the 80's and thanks to TH-cam, a wider audience can appreciate the visual aspect as well.
Holy, shit. That. Was. Insane. Like, what did I just stumbleupon? I was mesmerized and captivated, almost hypnotized even. Stellar performance. Bravo. BRAVO!
I think that's the point. A lot of minimalist music is made to invoke a meditative state.
Such a clean execution of one of my favorite pieces of music for percussion ever! The precision of syncopation between all four members that is required for the clean execution of this piece is so incredibly difficult, but it is so beautifully hypnotic when performed as well as this group does. Great job to all!!! Additionally, it warmed my heart to see one of my fellow percussionists from the U of O School of Music in the lineup and playing so very, very well: shout-out to Brian Gardiner!
those phasings...just awesome.
It's weird how you start to hear so much Melody from this much rhythm. Very cool.
my dad showed me this back in 2019, a couple weeks before him and I performed _Clapping Music_ on typewriters at NMASS; I didn’t think that much of _Drumming_ until recently when I really got into Reich.
knowing what I now know, this is such an incredible piece, and I’m super glad it’s had a nice long life so far
by the way, I feel like some people underestimate how difficult this piece actually is. it’s incredibly easy to lose focus and forget where you are, and it can cause things to train-wreck really quickly
When I saw this performed, Reich explained that he had found transcriptions of west African drumming, including the exact ‘out of phase’ intervals. He used that to create this piece. I wish he’d do this with anglolan/ Brazilian drums…
Always makes me think of hearing djs synching up the next record
This is such a groove I love hearing how the parts interlace
Reich is the god of syncopation
@@MSILBB we wuz syncopation an sheeit
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Takes me back to listening to The Best Of Phil Collins. Thanks guys.
I literally applauded out loud to myself at 9:35. Such control. My god. Good stuff!
Amazing. Not only for the phase shifting, it's more like time shifting. I love it.
Anybody else hear how cool the reverb is?
Max DeVincenzo Now I do. =]
Thanks!
Once I heard it I couldn't unhear it and now it's distracting me from the actual performance :(
how do you play the reverb?
Some times sounds like hands clapping... Cool.
What?
That was my favourite part of the performance. I'm pretty sure it's the entire idea behind Reich's work.
It's about the emergent sounds that happen when music is played in unusual ways
this is also a personality test to the musicians. at about 7:55 the fourth one enters and kind of 'disturbs' the order and harmony they had build up. he leaves at 8:19 to come back in at 8:30 by constantly becoming louder climaxing at 8:40 with a more simple beat so the others might realize he wants to join their group. .. amazing.. reich uses the percussive mantra of this tune to symbolize mankind as a being that belongs to and interacts in groups since the prehistoric time where we used the percussions while gathering round fires and merely being cavemen. this is so subtile but you can feel it.. i love it!!
Cavemen were pretty cool then!
No
Sounds African
I love how Steve Reich takes one beat, turns it into a pattern, and phases that pattern through all the different percussionists. I'm not a percussionist myself, but I am a music major, and this is so cool.
This is my favorite video on here right now.
Second guy messed up on the 826th beat.
Funny, I swear it was the 827th. Hmm, I will have to listen again.
I thought I heard that also
Stop being lazy just count
I am sure it was all part of the performance
Sorry. It was 827th!
I would like to believe that the paucity of comments stems from people being left speechless by this brilliant performance. Bravo!
Thus far I have never known there is such relaxing genre of music :D just beautiful. Skills of these drummers are amazing.
Hahahahaha that was a trip and a half!! The time signatures going out of sync creates the most enjoyable drum patterns. Phasing, reverb....that piece was SUPER HIGH quality. 100%
This part right here 9:17-9:38 is absolutely jaw-dropping. Unbelievable.
Absolutely brilliant exposition of the transcendental unity of apperception.
Amazing execution. Love the takes of the hands with the drumsticks only
Great piece.... Amazing musicians. Bravo.
eventually the percussive sounds and the pitches of the drums become detached to the ear and even though you can still hear the sharp percussive noise, the pitches sound almost like a xylophone/marimba.
This is one of my favorite "orchestral"/"Classical" pieces
1:52- sounds extremely difficult. But, to the ear it’s beautiful.
This phasing is ... just ... beyond ones mind. Wonderful!
I love the fact that this performance and the video of if highlight the meta-musical visual aspect of watching percussion performance.
1:50 to 2:20 is ridiculously impressive
Não tem pra ninguem !!! muito Sério, Muito perfeito !!! AMÈRICA !!! The Land of The Promision !!!! Great Steve Reich !!! Great Portland Percussion Group !!!
Steve Reich got me into playing Mali djembe because of stuff like this :D
its unbelieveble, that you can any song of steve reich, play to this drumming an have a nu sound.
***** yes an a new (nu) sound
+Joko Modus Yeah I have been doing this all morning. I have these Steve Reich videos playing and listening to other steve Reich on spotify at same time. its pretty cool how they just work together. not just drumming either.
Just love the sound of those rhythms speeding up to catch up with each other.
I accidentally did something quite similar to this in a composition a few years ago.
Wish I'd heard of this piece before then so I could have structured it a bit better haha
This is an unbelievable performance. Congratulations!
blows my mind. every time
That looks (sounds) very difficult.
Not every drummer can play out of sync.
You could try it yourself with both hands off beat.
@@MasleyVystupoe i can play out of sync so well that it's all I can do lol. Yeah, I suck a little.
@@maxsync183 haha
And some drummers can ONLY play out of sync! ;)
One word Larz
Jiří Kylián and his choreography Falling angels brought me here... Love it! ❤️
i cant tell you how much i love this piece
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This is honestly amazing
This is intense, visceral, brutal, savage, uncanny, ominous and masochistically precise.
The ear those people have and the coordination of the phase shifts according to the sound outcome is way too much. The level of skill for this is INHUMAN.
clearly a study in African music & polyrythms. Nice!
Yes. It also reminds me of Taiko drumming with all the rhythmic phasing. Also naturalistic. The earliest deviations from the beat remind me of drops of rain, dripping of a ledge onto a bucket.
Nice
This is very western sounding to me.
polyrhythms are not an exclusively african thing
In what way?
Polyrhythms are a very simple concept that basically every culture stumbled upon
@nuberiffic Sure, but Reich's pieces in this style owe a lot to Ewe drumming from Ghana
so beautiful. the syncopation is so precise and weird. gorgeous
revisiting this piece by watching this live video, still intriguing.
amazing, what a great musicians
Rhrythm was the ever neglected issue through Middle Ages, Renaissance, Baroque, Classical, Romanticism. But in Modern and Contemporary classical music rhrythm is the "melody of durations", not the melody made of pitches anymore.
I got to hear them live back in the 90's.
The best asmr trigger for me
Totalement hypnotique ! En fait je découvre que j'adore...
People with tubs and sticks doing what people with tubs and sticks do best
This sounds great. I remember searching for simply some sharp and simple music which'd be like clapping or tapping, and just that. Then I came across this which while not exactly what I was after, was really close.
I love this because it's so nice to listen to. I don't get annoyed or anything that this is supposedly out of tune/sync (I don't notice)
Play it on double speed and it sounds like a v-8 with some serious timing issues.
Very Nice gentlemen!
That’s some amazeballs rhythmic modulation
What I find incredible is the fact that there are 100 sad individuals that have thumbs downed this. Bless their misguided souls.
I like the freedom of oppinion. Don't you?
Why are you bothered
Now that is discipline and concentration. And hard listening with all those unintended but unavoidable millisecond out-of-syncs.
Wonderful : the beauty of near, but not absolute perfection.
Very cool. So Reich challenged both the players and the listening audience, and thus advanced musical detail one step further ? !
@@agerven Yes, it's really difficult to do. I've heard other performances that were even more precise in the in and out of phase passages. Whew!
So amazing how they do the phasing
Great music. Great performance.
And excellent audio/video production. Nice work!
The reverb is insane.
To me its like the arc of a life, some years go smoothly and well while other times are more burdensome and out of sync.
This touched me
supremely incredible
great sample material.... might be cool for a remix.
Bravi!! Bravissimi!!
Das knallt echt rein, bin auf 'nem super Trip
Richard Mannheimer was haste dir gegönnt? :)
Presumably this is just part 1? Anyway, I can only imagine how long this took to practice and perfect. These boys are so cool. I am simply phased by their phasing!
How in the world do they remember what to play when?
only a few patterns are used here. each player has to remember 2 or 3 patterns. than once a pattern is set - by switching a bit of starting points - another 2 will play improvizations of the tones used in the 2 overlapping pattern. Than join all 4 players. and certainly there is a build-up and build-down of the pattern, as you see. This is the basic idea of the piece. It is very interesting.
muscle memory
Practice or just inherent talent?
CannibalWHORE22 you can inherit an aptitude but it’s just love of the thing and practice
“talent” doesn’t really exist to much in music(in my opinion)
It’s different with things like running because you can inherit bone structure and the way muscle forms
of course you can have a good ear naturally but that just helps you start off (all in my opinion)
Djesse penny It’s a very good opinion
Nice job, fellas. Arranging some Steve Reich for indoor ;)
Imagine J. K. Simmons in Whiplash listening this. Just absolutely losing his mind, throwing chairs.
“NOT QUITE MY TEMPO”
Getting a Samurai Jack feeling
God Level!!!!!!!
Amazing
this seems really difficult to play. sounds amazing though.
Fabuloso!
I've just been listening and I looked at some of the comments. I couldn't care less who -if anyone- messed up, or when!! I find the music mesmerising. now it's finished I think I'll listen again, not so I can count beats but just so I can hear it again☺
hypnotic
Reminds me of some of the collaborations Steve Reich did with Pat Metheney a few albums ago
Clean clean clean.
it had all of us dancing around the living
I can see where King Crimson in the 80s get their influence from!
I recommend King Crimsons live version of "Waiting man". They were inspired by this here piece.
Cold, mechanical and confining.
Wow that’s sooo impressive....
Mesmerising.
Count from 1.
👌🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🔊🎧👍💞💓😚
Excellent 👍
je suis là car j'ai un devoir dessus en musique
My neighbors were just not having a good time listening to me enjoying this
Our ancient (african) cultures did this every day. Alienly good.👽
At 8:47 a FLUTE joins. Am I hearing things that are not there? Am I this crazy.
The people who disliked are the people who were on set and noticed the second guy messed up the 827th beat because they spent way too much time preparing XD
Wow, the guys walking up will pick out a beat, and then leave, but I can still hear the beat as if they were still there playing it. Is that what's going on here, or have I been watching to many videos today...
Mark Connely Cannot unhear that
Lindo video :O
no words...
This is like listening to Bloom by Radiohead but this time I *definitely* have no what idea what's going on
hard to hold on to - if you know what is in store, isn't it?