I'm commenting before even watching this video. I thought this video would come at a later date. This is why I wouldn't buy my Motogadget stuff from anyone else. Continue the great work because I have faith in you guys
looked at rhe manual after video. One feature i really like is the the input are configured to activate when grounded. That will massively simplify the wiring. Other new features such as the blue tooth are pretty cool too.
Can you expand on this, are you saying that the wiring can be simplified over the v2.0? I'm trying to find what you are referencing. If you mean that it is simplified over stock then don't worry about a lengthy reply. I'm running the v2.0 which I love and trying to balance if upgrading for the cell phone is work it. It's close because I'm worried about my bike getting punked while at a show etc. I suppose the alarm on the v2.0 should help but having the cell notification is nice. Curious about range, battery draw for the cell etc. I'd like to know if the extra AUX inputs can benefit not running all the AUX on the V2.0 to the single output..... That was the worst part of my wiring was the amount of stuff that I had to wire to that one output. Gauge lights, coils, neutral light, oil light and a couple others......
Hi Stefan, it’s Stefan. When are you gonna do more of these videos..? Trying to do this on a 2022 Triumph Sandstorm and I have no idea where to start. Would love a miracle video from you!
Motogadget just upped the ante again. What is possible with BT now (Sena are also doing some brilliant things with coms and cameras) is really impressive. Great review, even behind the beard I can tell you're as excited about this as I am. Hooray now you don't need to carry a configuration sheet around with you on your rides.
Ok, this is a great question. The alerts are only applicable when you are within Bluetooth range. Which can be anything between 30-100 meters depending on conditions. If they were to send the signal using a different system like GSM it would consume a lot of battery power and the bikes battery would not last long enough. The current bluetooth system only uses a tiny amount of power, but it will still give you an alert when you get back to the bike.
It would be great if it could do this, but it can't send via SMS because the rest of the systems needed to support that would consume too much battery power and the bike would need to be on a charger if it was left for more than a day or two. The bluetooth system they use is a low energy system and the new m-Unit blue's standby power consumption is almost the same as the V2.
It involves a full rewiring of the bike and we offer complete wire kits for this on our site. Most of the OEM main harness can not be used since the m.Unit is an entirely different way of managing power not to mention replacing old compromised wire is part of the appeal.
Lovin the m-units but another point to mention is that its not quite a straight swap for the v2 because while the connections might be a straight swap the actual mounting of the unit is not because they altered the spacing of the mounting holes....great vids tho love them and very informative...regards.
The keyless-go feature does provide a method to turn the bike on and off using an Android Smartphone (iPhone support is coming). But it is still a good idea to have some type of ignition switch just in case your phone dies while you are out. The ignition switch could be an m-Lock, or key switch, or whatever you prefer.
Thanks for the reply. This is my first attempt at wiring a bike form the start and have only decided to take the plunge after watching your video on the M-unit V2. For this time round I think I will stick with that. I have ordered your deluxe M-Unit wiring kit and rely solenoid so hopefully all will go well :-)
Its a wicked system and the wiring kit they send is fantastic. I have never wired a bike and it was very easy (with help from Stefan on a couple areas lol) Get the ferule crimper!!!!! if you don't have one. The one Revival has worked very well with the M-Unit inputs. I like that the kit came with equal large and small ferrules so it was easy to double up outputs like signals in a single ferrule. Good luck man and I'm sure you will love it.
Thanks for the reply buddy. Can't wait to get at it. Never thought I would say that about wiring but these guy's are a massive inspiration and the vids are great help. Wouldn't of even thought of trying this without them
Phil Spinks I hear you. I hadn't heard of motogadget and was dreading my wiring. random chance hitting their TH-cam channel during random TH-cam browsing lol. good luck!
I posted the same question on the contact form in the website of Motogadget, waiting an answer. I try to post the same here. I need to know a simple thing: May i use Motogadget System (M-Unit, Motoscope-Pro, turn indicators, M button and so on) in a Moto Guzzi Lodola Granturismo (235 cc) from the far 1964? I'm restoring it with a little touch of new technology in the instruments and electronics. Thank You in advance!! I love this kind of video!!!
Long story short(ish) - If your bike has a 12v system then yes, you can use the Motoscope Pro. If your bike has a 6v system then no, the Motoscope Pro will not work. The M-Unit however will work with a 6v and 12v system and of course any lighting works the same way, they can be 6v or 12v depending on the bulbs you use.
I know this is an old video so i may never get an answer. I have a 77 Yamaha XS650. Ive converted to a permanent magnet alternator. This allows me to run batteryless if i run a small capacitor. I assume i still need to wire in a main fuse between the capacitor and the m unit? Im no electrical guru, and im trying to plan the wiring layout, but i dont want to have anything wired in that wont be needed.
Let's skip fuse talk for a moment and get into the operation of the M-Unit itself. In theory running an M-Unit in a battery-less system will work but here is something to consider: Voltage is key. M-Units require steady 12+ voltage in order to function properly. They are great units but if you have varying/inconsistent voltage you will experience M-Unit operating problems and you could be chasing your tail with a lot of issues that can simply be attributed to voltage. Running a battery-less system even coupled with a capacitor can still allow voltage spikes and drops and most current electrical components don't like that, especially ones that control all of your lights and accessories. Hope this makes sense. But to answer your question.. when in doubt.. fuse it.
I had considered that in the back of my mind. The good news is if I need to I can run something like the 4 cell or smaller (if there is anything smaller) if needed since I don't plan on using a starter. One thing I hadn't considered with the M unit is that I may not have enough voltage for it to turn on so I can start it.
The ignition control module is a component unto itself. The Mo-Unit is a power distribution module and will supply power to many electrical components you choose to use but it is not an ignition pickup. You will still use your stock/aftermarket ignition.
Looks great, I understand the inputs and outputs but where do the wires come from for the instrument panel? Like the neutral light or the high beam indicator bulb?
The signals for the dash indicators come from the individual circuits they are idicating. For example, the high beam indicator is powered from the high beam output, in addition to powering the high beam itself. In the case of the instrument back lighting, and neutral indicator those can be powered by one of the AUX outputs, or the ignition output. If using the ignition output, however, the indicators will turn off with the kill switch.
In general yes, same goes for the headlight but some of the alternative settings for the AUX outputs might allow them to continue functioning while cranking.
Good morning master. I bought last Christmas, m unit blue whit m button for my Kawasaki vn 800B 2001. But I’ve some problem whit the wiring. How I can contact your store for the wirings diagram? Tk you very much.
We don't make model specific wiring diagrams but we do have our very own M-Unit universal wiring diagram and a handful of Tech Articles we've written on the in's and out's of completely re-wiring your motorcycle. They can all be found here: revivalcycles.com/blogs/technical-articles/tagged/wiring-electrical-system-restoration-modification
As others have mentioned, it is a good idea to have a physical ignition switch to use as a backup in this situation. It can be as simple as a toggle switch under the tail section so you remove the seat flip the switch, and the re-attach the seat. Or go with a normal key switch or m-Lock.
Very cool! Iam currently i my first build, a total rest/rebuild of a 76 rd400! Its kickstarter - Would it be overkill to use This kit? Or Maybe the v2? Its a total rebuild and Will need a new wire system. Started With a bare frame Cheers
As long as you plan to use a battery you would be good to go with either of the m-Units. They are both excelent, and still the easiest way to wire a bike from scratch. With the RD you won't need all the functions, but there are enough other benifits with the m-Unit I still think its worth it. The choice between V2 and Blue is really just about if you want to be able to use your phone with the bike, the basics are the same between both units.
i have the old M-unit and going to replace it with the new Moto Gadget Mo Unit. my question is the old unit had a config. across from the light lo. where do i put that config wire on the new one
I can’t find any info about this, can you tell me if there is any difference between the mo unit blue and the m unit blue? I’m trying to find out if they are iPhone compatible yet?
How do you configure the settings manually in the Munit for blinker flasher dimming on off & 1 wire running brake light / Brake light settings? I have the newer unit but non Bluetooth version.
Hi Scott, this is all outlined in the manual. I don't know how to explain it any better than they do and I can't fit the entire explanation in this reply.
So far I there has not been any discussion of price changes for the V2's, but as others have mentioned, the V2 used market will probably be ramping up soon.
This works well with any carbureted motorcycle that you're wanting to do a full re-wire on. In truth, it will work with fuel injected bikes as well, just a bit more complex.
This question comes up a lot and the answer is that nothing happens, the Keyless Go requires a BT connection to your phone to power the m.Unit on but that's it. Once the m.Unit is on a lost connection will not have any impact. Regardless, you always need either a Key or hidden switch to turn the bike on. Otherwise you could be stranded. You also would not be able to enter the pairing mode on the m.Unit and you couldn't loan the bike out or leave it with a mechanic.
Other concern is the draw for those of us running 4 cell L-Ion while the bike is dormant. Will the new phone capabilities cause any substantial draw on the batteries?
BLE only draws a few milliamps per hour, so it'd take a while to drain the battery in standby mode. Like any bike that's going to sit for weeks, it's best to put it on a trickle just in case.
Actually it draws less than half of a miliamp... it is 450 micro amps which is 0.00045 amps. This is actually lower than the V2 which draws 480 micro amps when the alarm is active. Based on this it should take something in the ballpark of 6 months to drain a 4-cell. The theoretical math says its over a year, but I wouldn't push it beyond 6 months.
Hi Revival Cycles! I bought some mini toggle switches as my handlebar controls (L-R signals, kill switch, headlight Hi & low beam). Would this m-unit work on this toggle switches too? I´m going to rewire my bike from scratch and I want to get this m-unit basic ( without bluetooth). I already bought the Motogadget cable kit too. Will the cables have the same connections from the switches to the m-unit too? Thanks you!
Yes, all m-Units can work with toggle switches for headlight, and turn signals...things like starter, and horn really need to be momentary switches, but momentary toggles would work. Without knowing exactly what switches you have it is not possible to discuss connections in details, so I'm not really sure how to answer this question. But the m-Unit will work with pretty much any wires, and any switches.
The m.Unit Blue has two Start outputs that together provide 30 amps. So long as your starter falls within that range it would work. If it's more than 30 you could use one Start output to trigger a higher amperage relay. Just be sure that any voltage wring running outside of the m.Unit has fused circuit protection. I've work out a diagram for using automotive style Key Start Ignitions. If shoot me an email at techsupport@revivalcycles.com I'll be happy to share it. -Berry
I just ordered my him blue and M button today can't wait to get started. wanted to know if anybody's installed on a 87 Yamaha venture. It's pretty much custom. And would you removed old wiring harness?
In our experience if you are running a full custom, it is much better to start from scratch. The factory harnesses are really inefficient and if you've moved any of the components or devices the routings may be completely different. We haven't installed in a venture, but based on the year, and other yamaha's we have worked on the m-Unit should be prefect for this project.
Okay great, thank you very much for getting back to me. I'm also emailing back and forth with one of your guys About the wiring diagrams You guys are very helpful. I Co-host a Web show with Lou Santiago from Car fix TV And when I'm done with the bike I'm going to do a review of this product And your company. thanks Louis
WHat amps are each circuit capable off? Can they be bridges if not enough amp for 1 circuit? What are the chances of using this in a hot rod or a car with basics accessories. radiator fan, head lights, brights, tail lights,brake lights, turn signals L&R, hazards. Really looking for something small and simple to clean up the clutter.
Each output terminal can handle up to 15 Amps. The Starter output has two dedicated outputs to supply enough amperage for high compression starters. But the m.Unit isn't really suited for automotive applications. There are options out there that are car specific.
Hi. I already like the M unit but i dont have enough info about its future... well i am trying to custom my 2014 street triple but i cant change the speedometer or do anything because the ecu locks the bike and allow the starter to crank. So does M unit replace also the ECU and could it be used to program the engine?
No, the m.Unit does not replace the ECU. Bikes like your 2014 Triumph have an immobilizer built into the ECU. If you're looking to install an m.Unit on a bike such as this then you must replace the factory ECU with an aftermarket that does not have an immobilizer.
If anyone understands the description for AUX2. It is confusing me. The only complaint with the V2.0 is I wish there was a secondary AUX port instead of wiring a ton of shit into one output. So on the fence about upgrading.......... I have the height to accommodate the vertical inputs now and the cell compatibility sounds awesome. This AUX question will be my tipping point.
can we directly wire a LED turn signal to the M-unit Bleu or we need some relay or fuse ? does the M unit manage the delivered power to each unit ? (sorry for my english)
Yes, the m-Unit will work with LED's or normal lights. You do not need to add any relays or fuses. The m-Unit does not regulate power to the LED so you need to use 12v compatible LEDs.
Hi. Never saw this before. Can you tell me which components I would be excluding from my bike by installing the motogadget? (I have a Yamaha XV 535). Thank you.
We've written an extensive series of article that are available on our site that will help answer this as well as the next 100 questions you're about to have. Check it out. technicalarticles.revivalcycles.com/hc/en-us
The m.Unit doesn't provide that functionality. The m.Unit has no way to know if the bike is in gear and it would no doubt lead to some unfortunate incidents if it could.
I live in Canada and I'm restoring a 1978 suzuki and man, I wish I had one right about now. Parts here are so much more expensive here compared to there. Was looking at the V2 and really wanted one.. but it was $780.. out of my price range
Im with ya...ive got a 78 gs750 and i want to put a few of these gadgets on it. I think the V2 is 299 on revzilla, which i guess would be a bit more with the exchange and 30$ ship fee.
There are a lot of new things with the blue, more inputs, and more outputs. Having dedicated ignition output with two extra aux outputs for things like heated grips, cooling fans, fuel pumps, phone/gps charger, etc. Also, having phone connectivity makes configuring much easier. I'm sure there are even more benifits to it, but that list alone is worth it for me.
@@RevivalCycles wanting to figure about a way to do a remote start with the mo unit blue. It obviously says it’s not able to because they choose to keep it off. I’m sure you guys have a work around?
With the m-Unit blue you can change the way the headlight behaves when the bike is turned on. The headlight always turns off when the starter is pushed, so the starter has as much power as possible. But you can set the headlight to stay off until the start button is pushed or it can turn on as soon as the bike is turned on. Here is the link to the manual motogadget.com/shop/media/downloads/manual/munit_blue_manual_en_2.0.pdf details are in section 9
It will depend on some of the details of the install and the phone you are using, but typically it is something around 30-50 meters. But the keyless go can be calibrated to only turn on when you are much closer to the bike. You can adjust this setting to your preference.
I JUST FINISHED MY M UNIT INSTALL TODAY AND NOW THEY COME OUT WITH THIS!!!!!! 😡😡😡😡 lol I can't wait to get it!!! ANY ONE WANNA BUY AN M UNIT V2!!!!! Revival cycles you guys ROCK!!! Can't wait to see more videos on this!!
Can you connect your phone to the M-Unit Blue and at the same time connect your phone to say a blue tooth headset/com system or any blue tooth device? I can't fully wrap my head around it, can you maybe use the AUX input if you wanna use more then one BT device simultaneously? Cheers!
The m-Unit will can be paired with up to 5 handheld devices, but in order to connect to the m-Unit and a com system, it is your phone that will need to support multiple connections. The AUX is only able to provide power, it does not do any communication or have any connection with Bluetooth.
Can you then connect a BT com system to the m-Unit and then your phone to the m-Unit and in that way sorta use the m-Unit as a "bridge" between your phone and com system? Thanks for the answer great videos!
I do not think this is possible, the m-Unit needs to connect via the app, and there is no way to get the com to run the app so there is no way to connect the com to the m-Unit.
The unlock distance can be calibrated to your preference, but the range will depend on the details of the install and how much material the signal has to pass through. Typically the maximum range is about 15-30 meters, but can be set to not unlock until you are closer.
You never "HAVE" to use an m-Button. The m-Unit is designed to work with the m-Button, or directly with the control buttons on the bars. The m-Button is fantastic when doing a super clean build where there are literally no wires or cables exposed, but for the average installs, I actually recommend not using an m-Button.
It replaces all relays with exception to the starter solenoid which is technically speaking a relay but carries but higher amperages than the m.Unit is capable of.
Yes, the m-Unit will work on a VF750, but just so you are aware, that bike does not have a Capacitive discharge ignition (CDI) but rather a solid state induction ignition. Its not really that important of a distinction, but its worth being aware of because if you want to install a motogadget gauge you don't need to use an ignition sensor, like you would have to if your bike did have a real CDI ignition.
Which is cheaper? This m unit- blue, or the V2 ? I've been searching all day and can't find any V2's ANYWHERE for sale.. can someone help me with a link?
The V.2 is absolecent and hasn't been manufactured in years. The Blue expands on the design and improoves a lot of the shortcomings of the older V.2. The Basic slightly less expensive but is just the same hardware as the Blue with dumbed down firmware. After you've done a few installs it becomes clear that the extra $50 spend on the Blue is quickly returned by the time saved programming them and ease of troubleshooting. Read more about it on our KB technicalarticles.revivalcycles.com/hc/en-us
Hello, I have a problem with Motogadget m.unit basic. My problem is with "start" ignition input. And have not started the motto. I did a relay ignition but with the same success. I think the output current is weak and can not even feed the small sprout of the ignition relay. Please help. Absolutely everything is related as stated in the instruction in the product box. I put the old m.unit model and everything works perfectly without problems. I'm asking for help Thank you GARAGE 77
Hmmm, that sounds like the start output is not turning on. That output should have 30 amps available and that is more than enough to trigger a relay or solenoid. In fact its gross overkill for that application. Before concluding the m-Unit is malfunctioning it is best to do some very simple tests. 1) Disconnect the input and output wires for the circuit in question. 2) Use a simple piece of wire as a switch to make sure the input terminal on the m-Unit is getting the correct ground signal. Strip both ends of a piece of wire, insert one end into the m-Unit input, turn the m-Unit on, then touch the other end to ground, you should see the LED light up for that input. 3) Connect a simple 12v light bulb to the output for the circuit that is not working. Then repeat the input test. The light bulb should light up. Also make note of what the output LED's are doing. When troubleshooting, it is very helpful to know what the LED's on the m-Unit are doing when the issue is occurring. That gives a lot of information about what could be causing it.
Revival Cycles ,I had done all of this from point 2 and 3. It all works. I have a ground at the input terminal, I have a terminal output current but can not rotate the starter. If you can give me your email I can send you a short video to get an idea of what's going on. thank you in advance GARAGE 77 garageseventyseven@gmail.com
What do you mean by "reverse voltage"? The CX500 as built by Honda is 100% compatible with m-Unit V2.0 and Blue. The only part that can be tricky is that some of the CX500's used a CDI ignition which is controlled by a grounding kill wire to stop the spark, but the m-Unit uses +12V to control the ignition system. To make this work you use an automotive 12V relay with normally closed contacts. The relay contacts are used to ground the CDI kill wire so the bike won't start when the m-Unit is off, and then the AUX (or Ignition output on the Blue) is used to control the relay control coil.
"The device works in a voltage range between 6 to 16V DC (direct current) and is made for 12V electrical systems which use battery minus terminal to vehicle frame. Use in vehicles without a battery is not possible"
Would I be able to utilize a Scorpio Ride alarm system with the bluetooth feature with some voodoo and black magic somehow? It sends me updates through the phone app/sms, but would love for it to automatically arm once I'm out of range of my baby
In theory you could use this for automotive applications. The limited number of power terminals would limit it to minimal electrical systems and the ground signal input controls would require creativity but not be insurmountable.
The minimum requirement is 4 handlebar control switches (Horn, left turn, right turn, headlight with start and kill functions accessed by combinations of the other four) + Ignition switch, and brake switches. The maximum is 5 Handlebar control switches (Horn, left turn, right turn, headlight, start/kill) + Ignition switch, brake switches, AUX1, AUX2, Dedicated Kill switch, and Side stand Switch
Yes, the m-Unit has full functionality with momentary switches, or latching switches. You can setup the configuration menus to match the switches you want to use.
Yes! we've been intending to install an m-Unit on a C10 project here at the shop but just haven't gotten around to it...somehow workshop projects don't take priority over customer work.
The factory Off/On switch wiring can be modified so that it completes a ground circuit when in the Off position signalling to the m.Unit to kill the ignition. Japanese and Italian Bikes with a 3 position Off/On/Off switch generally can not be adapted due to the nature of how they are wired though a convoluted solution involving a relay is possible if you are committed to using the OEM switches. -Berry
No it doesn't. It's primary function is as a solid state fuse block replacement and micro controller but there are dozens of additional features incorporated as well. With this you still need an ignition system or ECU and charging system.
No this is one thing the Chinese haven't stolen yet, and although I completely understand the temptation of knock off products, it is severely damaging for those of us in the product development world. We spend the money, time and creative energy to make something that the world has never seen, and then as soon as it shows signs of success, it gets poorly copied and sold cheap so the original inventors never recover the development investment. It is a much better plan to support the innovators so they can continue innovating, if we kill off the innovation we'll just be left with a rainbow of cheap plastic Chinese junk.
To save a ton of money, if you are a little handy, just buy a ESP32, a set of transistors and start programming! (On AliExpress you'll be set for about 10 dollars)
Of course not. There are several ways to deal with that situation. The best advice is to use a conventional ignition switch as a back up to the keyless system.
@@RevivalCycles A secondary operation could be employed. Depending on your brake system. The m unit should be able to notice as a scenario 2 or 3 brake pulls hand or foot pushes in sequence to start the bike. When the bike is in neutral or notices the clutch is in. All setup in the app as a code sequence. So a code could be set and recognizes that you turned on the high beam, pulled in the clutch and hit the brake and it starts. Variation coded starts
If anyone knows a cheaper option comment below. Wish they sold a kit with the m unit. Their super stream line buttons and a small display. I don't need an oil pressure sensor and unlimited led options.
We sell complete wiring kits, and Loom kits on our site. Beyond that there are so many variables that it's impossible to make a comprehensive kit that covered everyone without also providing many things that some won't need. We've created a guide for everything one might need on our tech articles page in three phases beginning with the core components and expanding upon that depending on what you need or how far you intend to go. technicalarticles.revivalcycles.com/hc/en-us/categories/360000739551-Motogadget Our loyalty to the product is on account of what it provides of this quality, at this price. If you or anyone comes across a well made solid state Power Distribution Module that does even a 10th of what the m.Unit does for less money we'd like to see it. So far everything I've come across is still 10 years behind the curve.
Hey do you have any further info about this? I really need a "creative solution" for this, to be able to place the unit under the seat with a very tight height
As the manual and others have mentioned, it is a good idea to have a physical ignition switch to use as a backup in this situation. It can be as simple as a toggle switch under the tail section so you remove the seat flip the switch, and the re-attach the seat. Or go with a normal key switch or m-Lock.
I'm commenting before even watching this video. I thought this video would come at a later date. This is why I wouldn't buy my Motogadget stuff from anyone else. Continue the great work because I have faith in you guys
Very cool.. I love how excited you are about it. I feel the same! I may have to re-wire the 350 for this, that walk up feature is too cool!!
The project continues!
looked at rhe manual after video. One feature i really like is the the input are configured to activate when grounded. That will massively simplify the wiring.
Other new features such as the blue tooth are pretty cool too.
Can you expand on this, are you saying that the wiring can be simplified over the v2.0? I'm trying to find what you are referencing. If you mean that it is simplified over stock then don't worry about a lengthy reply. I'm running the v2.0 which I love and trying to balance if upgrading for the cell phone is work it. It's close because I'm worried about my bike getting punked while at a show etc. I suppose the alarm on the v2.0 should help but having the cell notification is nice. Curious about range, battery draw for the cell etc.
I'd like to know if the extra AUX inputs can benefit not running all the AUX on the V2.0 to the single output..... That was the worst part of my wiring was the amount of stuff that I had to wire to that one output. Gauge lights, coils, neutral light, oil light and a couple others......
Wiring is the same as the V2...inputs are ground referenced, and the outputs are 100% isolated from the inputs.
Hi Stefan, it’s Stefan. When are you gonna do more of these videos..? Trying to do this on a 2022 Triumph Sandstorm and I have no idea where to start. Would love a miracle video from you!
Motogadget just upped the ante again. What is possible with BT now (Sena are also doing some brilliant things with coms and cameras) is really impressive. Great review, even behind the beard I can tell you're as excited about this as I am. Hooray now you don't need to carry a configuration sheet around with you on your rides.
It's 2020 - I'm using the m-unit in my EV motorcycle build. It's great!
question. if your alarm is armed because you are out of Bluetooth range, how does it send you an alert?
exactly what i was wondering.
I assume it has a SIM card and sends an SMS text like some home burglar alarms can
Ok, this is a great question. The alerts are only applicable when you are within Bluetooth range. Which can be anything between 30-100 meters depending on conditions. If they were to send the signal using a different system like GSM it would consume a lot of battery power and the bikes battery would not last long enough. The current bluetooth system only uses a tiny amount of power, but it will still give you an alert when you get back to the bike.
It would be great if it could do this, but it can't send via SMS because the rest of the systems needed to support that would consume too much battery power and the bike would need to be on a charger if it was left for more than a day or two. The bluetooth system they use is a low energy system and the new m-Unit blue's standby power consumption is almost the same as the V2.
ah . thanks for the response.
I got one already but don't have a time to install it.
Nice, do I need any extra length wires to install this?
It involves a full rewiring of the bike and we offer complete wire kits for this on our site. Most of the OEM main harness can not be used since the m.Unit is an entirely different way of managing power not to mention replacing old compromised wire is part of the appeal.
Lovin the m-units but another point to mention is that its not quite a straight swap for the v2 because while the connections might be a straight swap the actual mounting of the unit is not because they altered the spacing of the mounting holes....great vids tho love them and very informative...regards.
I assume this unit would negate the need for the M-lock. I have just bought an M-unit V2 and M-lock but not installed it yet so may return it.
The keyless-go feature does provide a method to turn the bike on and off using an Android Smartphone (iPhone support is coming). But it is still a good idea to have some type of ignition switch just in case your phone dies while you are out. The ignition switch could be an m-Lock, or key switch, or whatever you prefer.
Thanks for the reply. This is my first attempt at wiring a bike form the start and have only decided to take the plunge after watching your video on the M-unit V2. For this time round I think I will stick with that. I have ordered your deluxe M-Unit wiring kit and rely solenoid so hopefully all will go well :-)
Its a wicked system and the wiring kit they send is fantastic. I have never wired a bike and it was very easy (with help from Stefan on a couple areas lol) Get the ferule crimper!!!!! if you don't have one. The one Revival has worked very well with the M-Unit inputs. I like that the kit came with equal large and small ferrules so it was easy to double up outputs like signals in a single ferrule. Good luck man and I'm sure you will love it.
Thanks for the reply buddy. Can't wait to get at it. Never thought I would say that about wiring but these guy's are a massive inspiration and the vids are great help. Wouldn't of even thought of trying this without them
Phil Spinks I hear you. I hadn't heard of motogadget and was dreading my wiring. random chance hitting their TH-cam channel during random TH-cam browsing lol. good luck!
I posted the same question on the contact form in the website of Motogadget, waiting an answer. I try to post the same here.
I need to know a simple thing: May i use Motogadget System (M-Unit, Motoscope-Pro, turn indicators, M button and so on) in a Moto Guzzi Lodola Granturismo (235 cc) from the far 1964? I'm restoring it with a little touch of new technology in the instruments and electronics. Thank You in advance!! I love this kind of video!!!
Long story short(ish) - If your bike has a 12v system then yes, you can use the Motoscope Pro. If your bike has a 6v system then no, the Motoscope Pro will not work.
The M-Unit however will work with a 6v and 12v system and of course any lighting works the same way, they can be 6v or 12v depending on the bulbs you use.
@@RevivalCycles OK, thank You for the reply. My bike have a 6 volts system. So, i must use another rack of gauges. Now i have to choose it 🤣🤣
I know this is an old video so i may never get an answer. I have a 77 Yamaha XS650. Ive converted to a permanent magnet alternator. This allows me to run batteryless if i run a small capacitor. I assume i still need to wire in a main fuse between the capacitor and the m unit? Im no electrical guru, and im trying to plan the wiring layout, but i dont want to have anything wired in that wont be needed.
Let's skip fuse talk for a moment and get into the operation of the M-Unit itself.
In theory running an M-Unit in a battery-less system will work but here is something to consider:
Voltage is key. M-Units require steady 12+ voltage in order to function properly. They are great units but if you have varying/inconsistent voltage you will experience M-Unit operating problems and you could be chasing your tail with a lot of issues that can simply be attributed to voltage. Running a battery-less system even coupled with a capacitor can still allow voltage spikes and drops and most current electrical components don't like that, especially ones that control all of your lights and accessories.
Hope this makes sense.
But to answer your question.. when in doubt.. fuse it.
I had considered that in the back of my mind. The good news is if I need to I can run something like the 4 cell or smaller (if there is anything smaller) if needed since I don't plan on using a starter. One thing I hadn't considered with the M unit is that I may not have enough voltage for it to turn on so I can start it.
The video was 4 years ago. Is there something more updated than this unit?
There's no new hardware developments. The firmware periodically gets updates that expand functionality.
So does this get rid of the ignition control module as well? (Honda vlx chop)
The ignition control module is a component unto itself. The Mo-Unit is a power distribution module and will supply power to many electrical components you choose to use but it is not an ignition pickup. You will still use your stock/aftermarket ignition.
Could you also do a video with the m.unit blue with the m.button, like you did with the old one?
We can add that to the list of videos, but in the mean time just know it works exactly the same, and it gets plugged into the kill input.
@@RevivalCycles oh, sweet! Thanks! :-D
Looks great, I understand the inputs and outputs but where do the wires come from for the instrument panel? Like the neutral light or the high beam indicator bulb?
The signals for the dash indicators come from the individual circuits they are idicating. For example, the high beam indicator is powered from the high beam output, in addition to powering the high beam itself. In the case of the instrument back lighting, and neutral indicator those can be powered by one of the AUX outputs, or the ignition output. If using the ignition output, however, the indicators will turn off with the kill switch.
Question - do the AUX outputs shut off while cranking?
Good question. I’d like to know that too.
In general yes, same goes for the headlight but some of the alternative settings for the AUX outputs might allow them to continue functioning while cranking.
Good morning master.
I bought last Christmas, m unit blue whit m button for my Kawasaki vn 800B 2001.
But I’ve some problem whit the wiring.
How I can contact your store for the wirings diagram?
Tk you very much.
We don't make model specific wiring diagrams but we do have our very own M-Unit universal wiring diagram and a handful of Tech Articles we've written on the in's and out's of completely re-wiring your motorcycle.
They can all be found here:
revivalcycles.com/blogs/technical-articles/tagged/wiring-electrical-system-restoration-modification
Pretty cool wonder if I could use this on my next hot rod build?!
Let us know how it goes. We've been intending to do that for years...but too many bikes, no time for cars.
Max Power did you do it?
Do you know if motogadget would buy back the m-unit V2 since they have yet to release an Apple version of the blue?
I'm sure motogadget will not buy back the V2, and there is still no update on the iOS version of the app.
Cool! I hope there is a backup if your phone dies 🙈
The manual says, "Please make sure to carry the ignition key on you, so you can start the vehicle even without your smartphone."
As others have mentioned, it is a good idea to have a physical ignition switch to use as a backup in this situation. It can be as simple as a toggle switch under the tail section so you remove the seat flip the switch, and the re-attach the seat. Or go with a normal key switch or m-Lock.
@@MotoErgoSum motogadget, i think its time to charge our phones wireless while riding, only you can do it!
Very cool!
Iam currently i my first build, a total rest/rebuild of a 76 rd400!
Its kickstarter - Would it be overkill to use This kit? Or Maybe the v2?
Its a total rebuild and Will need a new wire system. Started With a bare frame
Cheers
As long as you plan to use a battery you would be good to go with either of the m-Units. They are both excelent, and still the easiest way to wire a bike from scratch. With the RD you won't need all the functions, but there are enough other benifits with the m-Unit I still think its worth it. The choice between V2 and Blue is really just about if you want to be able to use your phone with the bike, the basics are the same between both units.
Revival Cycles excellent! Thank you- keep those great videos coming 🙌
i have the old M-unit and going to replace it with the new Moto Gadget Mo Unit. my question is the old unit had a config. across from the light lo. where do i put that config wire on the new one
bad ass, that is so freaking cool. I'd love this on my bike.
I can’t find any info about this, can you tell me if there is any difference between the mo unit blue and the m unit blue? I’m trying to find out if they are iPhone compatible yet?
They are the same device. Motogadget added an "o" to all their names to dodge a potential lawsuit.
Welp, the cost of all my builds just got more expensive.
Cheaper than buying the V2 + m-Lock.
How do you configure the settings manually in the Munit for blinker flasher dimming on off & 1 wire running brake light / Brake light settings? I have the newer unit but non Bluetooth version.
Hi Scott, this is all outlined in the manual. I don't know how to explain it any better than they do and I can't fit the entire explanation in this reply.
I can see this as a great addition to a high end motorcycle. Does it means the V2 will come down in price for us plebeians? :)
Dirceu Corsetti seems like we might be able to get good deals on used ones soon.
So far I there has not been any discussion of price changes for the V2's, but as others have mentioned, the V2 used market will probably be ramping up soon.
Will this work on a 85 shadow 700
This works well with any carbureted motorcycle that you're wanting to do a full re-wire on. In truth, it will work with fuel injected bikes as well, just a bit more complex.
Explain what happens if your cellphones dies and bluetooth link is broken? Will your bike switch off while riding?
This question comes up a lot and the answer is that nothing happens, the Keyless Go requires a BT connection to your phone to power the m.Unit on but that's it. Once the m.Unit is on a lost connection will not have any impact. Regardless, you always need either a Key or hidden switch to turn the bike on. Otherwise you could be stranded. You also would not be able to enter the pairing mode on the m.Unit and you couldn't loan the bike out or leave it with a mechanic.
so its basically a plc for a motorcycle?
Pretty much, but there are quite a few differences that make this really well suited to the moto application.
Will it run a positive Earth Bike?
The M-Unit will not work with a positive earth system.
Thanks will have to Chang it over to Neg Earth!@@RevivalCycles
cool. i was wondering when/if you guys were going to talk about the new blue. awesome thx
Other concern is the draw for those of us running 4 cell L-Ion while the bike is dormant. Will the new phone capabilities cause any substantial draw on the batteries?
BLE only draws a few milliamps per hour, so it'd take a while to drain the battery in standby mode. Like any bike that's going to sit for weeks, it's best to put it on a trickle just in case.
Actually it draws less than half of a miliamp... it is 450 micro amps which is 0.00045 amps. This is actually lower than the V2 which draws 480 micro amps when the alarm is active. Based on this it should take something in the ballpark of 6 months to drain a 4-cell. The theoretical math says its over a year, but I wouldn't push it beyond 6 months.
Wicked - thanks!
Hi Revival Cycles! I bought some mini toggle switches as my handlebar controls (L-R signals, kill switch, headlight Hi & low beam). Would this m-unit work on this toggle switches too? I´m going to rewire my bike from scratch and I want to get this m-unit basic ( without bluetooth). I already bought the Motogadget cable kit too. Will the cables have the same connections from the switches to the m-unit too? Thanks you!
Yes, all m-Units can work with toggle switches for headlight, and turn signals...things like starter, and horn really need to be momentary switches, but momentary toggles would work.
Without knowing exactly what switches you have it is not possible to discuss connections in details, so I'm not really sure how to answer this question. But the m-Unit will work with pretty much any wires, and any switches.
I'm putting an munit blue on my 31 Ford right now. Not sure just yet if I can run my starter off it or if I need to run it another way.
The m.Unit Blue has two Start outputs that together provide 30 amps. So long as your starter falls within that range it would work.
If it's more than 30 you could use one Start output to trigger a higher amperage relay. Just be sure that any voltage wring running outside of the m.Unit has fused circuit protection.
I've work out a diagram for using automotive style Key Start Ignitions. If shoot me an email at techsupport@revivalcycles.com I'll be happy to share it.
-Berry
I just ordered my him blue and M button today can't wait to get started. wanted to know if anybody's installed on a 87 Yamaha venture. It's pretty much custom. And would you removed old wiring harness?
In our experience if you are running a full custom, it is much better to start from scratch. The factory harnesses are really inefficient and if you've moved any of the components or devices the routings may be completely different. We haven't installed in a venture, but based on the year, and other yamaha's we have worked on the m-Unit should be prefect for this project.
Okay great, thank you very much for getting back to me. I'm also emailing back and forth with one of your guys About the wiring diagrams You guys are very helpful. I Co-host a Web show with Lou Santiago from Car fix TV And when I'm done with the bike I'm going to do a review of this product And your company.
thanks Louis
WHat amps are each circuit capable off? Can they be bridges if not enough amp for 1 circuit?
What are the chances of using this in a hot rod or a car with basics accessories.
radiator fan, head lights, brights, tail lights,brake lights, turn signals L&R, hazards.
Really looking for something small and simple to clean up the clutter.
Each output terminal can handle up to 15 Amps. The Starter output has two dedicated outputs to supply enough amperage for high compression starters. But the m.Unit isn't really suited for automotive applications. There are options out there that are car specific.
Hi. I already like the M unit but i dont have enough info about its future... well i am trying to custom my 2014 street triple but i cant change the speedometer or do anything because the ecu locks the bike and allow the starter to crank. So does M unit replace also the ECU and could it be used to program the engine?
No, the m.Unit does not replace the ECU. Bikes like your 2014 Triumph have an immobilizer built into the ECU. If you're looking to install an m.Unit on a bike such as this then you must replace the factory ECU with an aftermarket that does not have an immobilizer.
If anyone understands the description for AUX2. It is confusing me. The only complaint with the V2.0 is I wish there was a secondary AUX port instead of wiring a ton of shit into one output. So on the fence about upgrading.......... I have the height to accommodate the vertical inputs now and the cell compatibility sounds awesome. This AUX question will be my tipping point.
can we directly wire a LED turn signal to the M-unit Bleu or we need some relay or fuse ? does the M unit manage the delivered power to each unit ? (sorry for my english)
Yes, the m-Unit will work with LED's or normal lights. You do not need to add any relays or fuses. The m-Unit does not regulate power to the LED so you need to use 12v compatible LEDs.
Revival Cycles so I can directly wire the m-blaze pin or a led loop ?
Hi. Never saw this before. Can you tell me which components I would be excluding from my bike by installing the motogadget? (I have a Yamaha XV 535). Thank you.
We've written an extensive series of article that are available on our site that will help answer this as well as the next 100 questions you're about to have. Check it out.
technicalarticles.revivalcycles.com/hc/en-us
Hello, is it possible to start engine remotely from phone? Regards
The m.Unit doesn't provide that functionality. The m.Unit has no way to know if the bike is in gear and it would no doubt lead to some unfortunate incidents if it could.
I live in Canada and I'm restoring a 1978 suzuki and man, I wish I had one right about now. Parts here are so much more expensive here compared to there. Was looking at the V2 and really wanted one.. but it was $780.. out of my price range
Im with ya...ive got a 78 gs750 and i want to put a few of these gadgets on it. I think the V2 is 299 on revzilla, which i guess would be a bit more with the exchange and 30$ ship fee.
Other than the bluetooth keyless switch why would this be better than a M-unit v2???
There are a lot of new things with the blue, more inputs, and more outputs. Having dedicated ignition output with two extra aux outputs for things like heated grips, cooling fans, fuel pumps, phone/gps charger, etc. Also, having phone connectivity makes configuring much easier. I'm sure there are even more benifits to it, but that list alone is worth it for me.
Ok so they made it so you cant use the start function.... I am sure you guys found a away around right?
Sorry, so that you can't use what start function? Im not sure I understand.
@@RevivalCycles wanting to figure about a way to do a remote start with the mo unit blue. It obviously says it’s not able to because they choose to keep it off. I’m sure you guys have a work around?
can this unit pair with wireless helmet turnsignals ?
Can you modify when you press start button to shut off headlight when starting? Looking to put gsxr controls on my 79 CB750.
With the m-Unit blue you can change the way the headlight behaves when the bike is turned on. The headlight always turns off when the starter is pushed, so the starter has as much power as possible. But you can set the headlight to stay off until the start button is pushed or it can turn on as soon as the bike is turned on. Here is the link to the manual motogadget.com/shop/media/downloads/manual/munit_blue_manual_en_2.0.pdf details are in section 9
Hi can this be fitted to a Norton Commando 1973 850 Mk1. Dave
Where do you add the wire for a M-button? or is that no longer possible?
The green wire from the m-Button is connected to the "Kill" input on the m-Unit blue, and to the "config" input on the V2
how far can you be away from the bike and still receive an alarm signal that the bike ia being messed with?
It will depend on some of the details of the install and the phone you are using, but typically it is something around 30-50 meters. But the keyless go can be calibrated to only turn on when you are much closer to the bike. You can adjust this setting to your preference.
I JUST FINISHED MY M UNIT INSTALL TODAY AND NOW THEY COME OUT WITH THIS!!!!!! 😡😡😡😡 lol I can't wait to get it!!! ANY ONE WANNA BUY AN M UNIT V2!!!!! Revival cycles you guys ROCK!!! Can't wait to see more videos on this!!
I'm in the same boat, but don't have android. When they add iOS support I'll upgrade and use the old kit for a beater project.
Angel Figueroa how much are you selling it for?
Can you connect your phone to the M-Unit Blue and at the same time connect your phone to say a blue tooth headset/com system or any blue tooth device? I can't fully wrap my head around it, can you maybe use the AUX input if you wanna use more then one BT device simultaneously? Cheers!
The m-Unit will can be paired with up to 5 handheld devices, but in order to connect to the m-Unit and a com system, it is your phone that will need to support multiple connections. The AUX is only able to provide power, it does not do any communication or have any connection with Bluetooth.
Can you then connect a BT com system to the m-Unit and then your phone to the m-Unit and in that way sorta use the m-Unit as a "bridge" between your phone and com system? Thanks for the answer great videos!
I do not think this is possible, the m-Unit needs to connect via the app, and there is no way to get the com to run the app so there is no way to connect the com to the m-Unit.
I see. Thanks for clearing that up!
Nice review been waiting for this one
What’s a reasonable price to pay a mechanic to install one of these?
does the mo.ride app need to be open to use keyless go?
I don't know how many times I dropped the f-bomb. This is so awesome.
How long is the proximity with the keyless start?
The unlock distance can be calibrated to your preference, but the range will depend on the details of the install and how much material the signal has to pass through. Typically the maximum range is about 15-30 meters, but can be set to not unlock until you are closer.
Do you still have to have the mbutton?
You never "HAVE" to use an m-Button. The m-Unit is designed to work with the m-Button, or directly with the control buttons on the bars. The m-Button is fantastic when doing a super clean build where there are literally no wires or cables exposed, but for the average installs, I actually recommend not using an m-Button.
will it replace the relay for the light functions?
It replaces all relays with exception to the starter solenoid which is technically speaking a relay but carries but higher amperages than the m.Unit is capable of.
Ok I get my new m-button and m-blue. So the instruction says to attach the configure wire from m button to kill input Is that correct?
Yes, that is correct. I'm not sure why they did that, but it is the way it is supposed to be.
hello I'm putting together a honda magna vf750 1982 model, the bike has two cdi will work the M-Unit Blue ???
Yes, the m-Unit will work on a VF750, but just so you are aware, that bike does not have a Capacitive discharge ignition (CDI) but rather a solid state induction ignition. Its not really that important of a distinction, but its worth being aware of because if you want to install a motogadget gauge you don't need to use an ignition sensor, like you would have to if your bike did have a real CDI ignition.
Exciting stuff! Thanks for sharing.
Which is cheaper? This m unit- blue, or the V2 ? I've been searching all day and can't find any V2's ANYWHERE for sale.. can someone help me with a link?
The V.2 is absolecent and hasn't been manufactured in years. The Blue expands on the design and improoves a lot of the shortcomings of the older V.2. The Basic slightly less expensive but is just the same hardware as the Blue with dumbed down firmware. After you've done a few installs it becomes clear that the extra $50 spend on the Blue is quickly returned by the time saved programming them and ease of troubleshooting. Read more about it on our KB technicalarticles.revivalcycles.com/hc/en-us
Hello, I have a problem with Motogadget m.unit basic. My problem is with "start" ignition input. And have not started the motto. I did a relay ignition but with the same success. I think the output current is weak and can not even feed the small sprout of the ignition relay. Please help. Absolutely everything is related as stated in the instruction in the product box. I put the old m.unit model and everything works perfectly without problems. I'm asking for help
Thank you
GARAGE 77
Hmmm, that sounds like the start output is not turning on. That output should have 30 amps available and that is more than enough to trigger a relay or solenoid. In fact its gross overkill for that application. Before concluding the m-Unit is malfunctioning it is best to do some very simple tests.
1) Disconnect the input and output wires for the circuit in question.
2) Use a simple piece of wire as a switch to make sure the input terminal on the m-Unit is getting the correct ground signal. Strip both ends of a piece of wire, insert one end into the m-Unit input, turn the m-Unit on, then touch the other end to ground, you should see the LED light up for that input.
3) Connect a simple 12v light bulb to the output for the circuit that is not working. Then repeat the input test. The light bulb should light up. Also make note of what the output LED's are doing.
When troubleshooting, it is very helpful to know what the LED's on the m-Unit are doing when the issue is occurring. That gives a lot of information about what could be causing it.
Revival Cycles ,I had done all of this from point 2 and 3. It all works. I have a ground at the input terminal, I have a terminal output current but can not rotate the starter. If you can give me your email I can send you a short video to get an idea of what's going on. thank you in advance
GARAGE 77
garageseventyseven@gmail.com
I am redoing a Honda CX500 which has reverse voltage... will the M Unit Blue ?
What do you mean by "reverse voltage"? The CX500 as built by Honda is 100% compatible with m-Unit V2.0 and Blue. The only part that can be tricky is that some of the CX500's used a CDI ignition which is controlled by a grounding kill wire to stop the spark, but the m-Unit uses +12V to control the ignition system. To make this work you use an automotive 12V relay with normally closed contacts. The relay contacts are used to ground the CDI kill wire so the bike won't start when the m-Unit is off, and then the AUX (or Ignition output on the Blue) is used to control the relay control coil.
Would this allowed me to instal led lights on my 6v honda cb without changing anything in engine ???
"The device works in a voltage range between 6 to 16V DC (direct current) and is made for 12V
electrical systems which use battery minus terminal to vehicle frame. Use in vehicles without a
battery is not possible"
If you can find 6v LED lights, perhaps. Most are 12v.
Big shout out to Jeff, very helpful with questions I had.
Thanks Steven!
Hey man I need a how to with the m ride app having a hard time with it.
Would I be able to utilize a Scorpio Ride alarm system with the bluetooth feature with some voodoo and black magic somehow? It sends me updates through the phone app/sms, but would love for it to automatically arm once I'm out of range of my baby
Unfortunately we don't have any experience with the Scorpio alarms so we're not sure if this is possible.
Only motorcycle applications?
In theory you could use this for automotive applications. The limited number of power terminals would limit it to minimal electrical systems and the ground signal input controls would require creativity but not be insurmountable.
How many switches can I run with this system?
The minimum requirement is 4 handlebar control switches (Horn, left turn, right turn, headlight with start and kill functions accessed by combinations of the other four) + Ignition switch, and brake switches.
The maximum is 5 Handlebar control switches (Horn, left turn, right turn, headlight, start/kill) + Ignition switch, brake switches, AUX1, AUX2, Dedicated Kill switch, and Side stand Switch
Does it have a high/low beam toggle that works with a momentary switch?
Yes, the m-Unit has full functionality with momentary switches, or latching switches. You can setup the configuration menus to match the switches you want to use.
Revival Cycles thanks! Thinking my 900SS needs this setup.
... And maybe my FJ40 now that I think about it.
Yes! we've been intending to install an m-Unit on a C10 project here at the shop but just haven't gotten around to it...somehow workshop projects don't take priority over customer work.
Revival Cycles That's a good problem to have I suppose!
How can i wire a harley off/run using a mbuttom ??
The factory Off/On switch wiring can be modified so that it completes a ground circuit when in the Off position signalling to the m.Unit to kill the ignition.
Japanese and Italian Bikes with a 3 position Off/On/Off switch generally can not be adapted due to the nature of how they are wired though a convoluted solution involving a relay is possible if you are committed to using the OEM switches.
-Berry
Thank you.
Great video as usual.
how much are the used M UNIT V2 selling for????
Does this replace the ecu?
No it doesn't. It's primary function is as a solid state fuse block replacement and micro controller but there are dozens of additional features incorporated as well. With this you still need an ignition system or ECU and charging system.
How much?
great video. thank you!
are there any chinese versions????
No this is one thing the Chinese haven't stolen yet, and although I completely understand the temptation of knock off products, it is severely damaging for those of us in the product development world. We spend the money, time and creative energy to make something that the world has never seen, and then as soon as it shows signs of success, it gets poorly copied and sold cheap so the original inventors never recover the development investment. It is a much better plan to support the innovators so they can continue innovating, if we kill off the innovation we'll just be left with a rainbow of cheap plastic Chinese junk.
Your content is perfect
What happened at 6:09 ?
Nothing
To save a ton of money, if you are a little handy, just buy a ESP32, a set of transistors and start programming! (On AliExpress you'll be set for about 10 dollars)
That's a fascinating idea. I can't wait to see your video series on it.
would this work on Cb550?
Yep, this is a perfect setup for the CB550
I need one of these for my xz550
Seems very abstract in it's application could somebody please explain real world applications?
No guy with such a beard has been more excited about anything else
To bad it doesn't have a GPS tracker also. Very cool though.
If they had a GPS tracker built in, I'd buy one right now no more questions asked :) !
This is called a PLC and it is very very cool.
So if you loose your phone your screwed
Of course not. There are several ways to deal with that situation. The best advice is to use a conventional ignition switch as a back up to the keyless system.
@@RevivalCycles A secondary operation could be employed. Depending on your brake system. The m unit should be able to notice as a scenario 2 or 3 brake pulls hand or foot pushes in sequence to start the bike. When the bike is in neutral or notices the clutch is in. All setup in the app as a code sequence. So a code could be set and recognizes that you turned on the high beam, pulled in the clutch and hit the brake and it starts. Variation coded starts
pricey
If anyone knows a cheaper option comment below.
Wish they sold a kit with the m unit. Their super stream line buttons and a small display. I don't need an oil pressure sensor and unlimited led options.
We sell complete wiring kits, and Loom kits on our site. Beyond that there are so many variables that it's impossible to make a comprehensive kit that covered everyone without also providing many things that some won't need.
We've created a guide for everything one might need on our tech articles page in three phases beginning with the core components and expanding upon that depending on what you need or how far you intend to go.
technicalarticles.revivalcycles.com/hc/en-us/categories/360000739551-Motogadget
Our loyalty to the product is on account of what it provides of this quality, at this price. If you or anyone comes across a well made solid state Power Distribution Module that does even a 10th of what the m.Unit does for less money we'd like to see it. So far everything I've come across is still 10 years behind the curve.
There should be a 90 degree connection available, I'm sure someone in the shapeways marketplace could print them
Hey do you have any further info about this? I really need a "creative solution" for this, to be able to place the unit under the seat with a very tight height
Drool !
holy shit that's cool!!
So thats a like then Stef....
Anyone actually use it ? I bet I could set my car ignition up with it as an anti theft device
Thousands of people are using them. We've been selling them for nearly 10 years and installed them in at least a hundred bikes ourselves.
arrgghhh , just ordered the v2.....sad face
phone battery goes , no bluetooth , stranded .....
As the manual and others have mentioned, it is a good idea to have a physical ignition switch to use as a backup in this situation. It can be as simple as a toggle switch under the tail section so you remove the seat flip the switch, and the re-attach the seat. Or go with a normal key switch or m-Lock.
be smarter than your smartphone
why don’t you just put a phone charger through the battery…