Federal Syntech Defense Ammo Penetrates 18 Inches in Gel Test
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- The hype around the all-new Federal Syntech Defense ammo has been serious, so we put it to the test against bare ballistics gel and heavy clothing. Read more here: www.personalde...
Video by Frank Melloni
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Good stuff, when ammo was plentiful I was able to stock up on this for dirt cheap. Ahhhh, the good old days!
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Entertain us please, HOW CHEAP LOL 🤔
Why not say the amount
@@saltaddict685 it was like, $9.99 for 20 rounds at Walmart at the end of its run. When it was brand new on the shelves, $11.99 for 20.
@@Kingzall What?
Thanks for the video! Just bought 80 rounds! Walmart @ $11.46 for the 9mm & $14.53 for the 45ACP! Awesome product!
damn thats a great price my local wal mart was selling it at $27 last year probably close to the time you bought yours. I love the product I use it in my xds. .45acp
The good days
Color me impressed by the fragment penetration depth - that petal which didn't exit the block, looks to be 5/8 of the way through a 16 inch block of gel - the PETAL WENT AT LEAST 9 inches - thats very good for fragment, and with 3 x additonal wound paths, this is some effective self-defense ammo. I bought a couple boxes in 9mm and 45acp, caught them when they stocked at Wal-Mart. 9mm - $11.50 45ACP - $14.50
Glad to see the 9mm performs as well or better than Federal claims.
Bear in mind lung tissue isn't nearly as tough to penetrate as muscle, cartilage, and bone. I'd say these work well with a chest hit. Consider the torso on most humans isn't much more than 12".
It would have been nice to see more weight retention, but I guess the copper would do a better job of keeping the lead together.
@@kyleduddleston4123 Weight retention is only to ensure penetration and is really only relevant to mushrooming bullets that might break apart. If the central core consistently penetrates 18" who cares if the weight retention of the whole bullet is less. I'm pretty sure the weight retention of the central core is 100% of the weight of the central core.
"...the dummy who gets to shoot it". That's a nice job, brother!
And an honest one too.
138gr 9mm $12 at walmart (in s.a tx) as of 5/12/19 excellent 👍
yeah its 11 bucks a box at my local walmarts too. At that price, it's cheaper to buy three boxes of this and have 10 more rounds than to buy a 50 round box of UMC 115 grain JHPs for 29.99.
@@inferninx No it isn't.. That UMC 115grain jhp box for 29.99 is a 100 round pack, not 50.. I just bought some an hour ago along with a pack of this federal syntech stuff.
@@muddyhotdog4103 Must have different prices at your walmarts than mine, because they don't sell UMC in 100 round boxes of JHPs for 30 bucks in Atlanta, or at least the ones near me. Sure, they sell 100 round boxes of 115 grain FMJ for 30 bucks, but I've never seen a 100 round box of UMC 115 grain 9mm JHP rounds for 30 bucks, and it's almost impossible to find it online for that price either. Good job snagging them for that price.
The syntech stuff is still 11.42 a box of 20, but people have gotten wise to it being so cheap and it's been sold out everywhere around me for the past week or two.
@@inferninx It's like that at every walmart I go to. I was just in CA last week and it was 29.99/100 there too! Watch this test, he even holds up a 100 count box of umc jhp 115grain saying he paid about thirty bucks for it.. I used to think it was only 50 count too before I started buying a lot of it and realized it was a bitchin deal..
th-cam.com/video/08l0H1OF-Cw/w-d-xo.html
The 100 pack of umc 115gr FMJ is $18 (like $9 for 50)
@@muddyhotdog4103 nice man! not a huge fan of remington UMC JHPs since theyre pretty dirty ammo, but thats a heck of a deal if youre on a budget.
This is my carry ammo but in .40 s&w. I love it, seems to preform great and noticeably less barrel heat during use. Is priced extremely well also, a Walmart in California 20 rounds for $13.53
I just bought some of these bullets from Walmart for 13.53 a box....
It was a box of .40 S&W....
Just bought this ammo for myself, after watching this i have no regrets and im happy to carry this round!
would love to see an update of this with a variety of barrel lengths: subcompact, service pistol, PCC
Agreed !
Great video. Good attitude. Appreciate the focus on accuracy.
Federal really hit a home run with this stuff
have you tried it? I've been contemplating stocking up.on this for my Beretta PX4 because the price is so good.
@@d-monicsteezy4979 I bought 2 boxes last year for the Scorpion and I want more but No One has it, literally no one
@@Ben-lh9rp Lucky Gunner.com
was concerned about lead exposure and wanted to find a relatively cheap practice + carry ammo, this seems perfect!
Federal hit a grand slam with this ammo. It's a great defensive bullet. I will be carrying it in my Glock. Thanks for the video!
I just bought a box they are cheap too nice I have only seen 2 videos on it both being from federal cant wait for more testing
Someone needs to test the 45ACP... I don't have land to do testing on >_< .... I know some guy on TH-cam uses my Shooting Range for GelTests.. KCGunGuy or something like that... Maybe they will let me make an awful video.
check out tnoutdoors9 he just uploaded a test a few days ago
Please review the 45ACP!!!! The 9mm is $11 at Walmart, the 45ACp is $14... and it performs as well as the $40 45ACP Underwood/Lehigh fragmenting ammo!
Bought the last two at Bass Pro. It’s getting popular.
JUST PURCHASED TWO BOXES AT WALMART BECAUSE OF THE PRICE. DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS ROUND. CHECKED THE REVIEWS AND I AM HAPPY I DID. I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO RETURNING TO WALMART TO PURCHASE MORE 9MM FEDERAL SYNTECH SELF DEFENSE DEFENSE AMMO. I ALSO WANT TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY IN 45 ACP.
Hmmm reminds me of the old federal Nyclad ammo
Now this ammo is 30$ a box
Got these loaded in my s&w 4006chp which is riding iwb as I type!
This stuff is hard to find. I did see some at Walmart tonight for $12 and change for 20 rounds.
This is far more impressive than I expected. Just bought a box of 50 of these for $25 a box just for the hell of it to test different ammo in my newly acquired USP. I might have to go get a couple more of these.
I purchased several boxes from Walmart years ago, and they are my go to in 9mm and 40s&w
@@finalcountdown7658 I ran a few boxes in my carry guns. These will be my go to as well, as long as the price stays decent.
That's a fair deal.. They are $31 USD in Canada for box of 50. I dont think ill ever need them in Canada yet 50 rounds but meh.
Great video thank you. I have a pps m2 also had lots of feed issues with sig v-crown with the PPS M2 and was looking for new (affordable) & reliable defense ammo. Thanks again well done 👍.
Just bought some ......thought I bought junk....liked the demonstration....I'm good!
The way I did it was come through the first day with my badge and they gave me day passes until the OSM gave me the decal. You can probably get one at Landside at the badge office though. If I see an open locker, I'll throw a lock on it for you. They are terrible with lockers over here. Getting a top locker is like winning the lottery over here! 😂😂
Good review; fun to watch. I liked Frank Malone on Top Shot- seemed like a good shot and a humble guy. Like him doing these. Picked up a box.
God I wish I would've bought 100 boxes back then...
I'm that guy... bought out all of my Walmart's inventory of this and the 205 grain .45 ACP.
Dickhead 🤣 jkjk
I'm that guy (in Texas).
Bought out all the 9mm and 45acp Syntech Defense SJHP (at 2 local WMarts) when they stopped selling handgun ammo.
WM was selling it @ $7 per 20 round box
I had to leave both stores with the ammo in a shopping cart, too much to carry. 🤣
@@jamescampbell4334
Good for you brother!!!
I can't find shit. I live in PHILLY and most of the ammo I have I bought online.
I just got 2 boxes of these in 45 ACP from federals website.
Have a SHIELD 9mm and 45 ACP. Only have FEDERAL HST for defense ammo and have about 500 rounds total.
I got two boxes today haven't tried it yet I got it for $11.99 a box seemed like a pretty good deal
Where?
@@roweshowboxing Walmart
I bought this ammo when i found it at my shop thinking “shit, this looks badass!” Turns out… badass. I’ll start carrying this over traditional hollow points.
Just pick up some at Walmart. 12$ a box can't beat that.
Hey. You forget to mention some important details. What grain did you test? Did the box specify for handguns or PCC length? What velocity did the box advertise? What pistol did you use? What barrel length?
Got this for my new G21. Gonna shoot some to get a feel. 1.50 a round, pretty standard if you can find decent ammo right now
I feel ya buddy.
Just bought 40 rounds off federals website. $64 total. Including shipping and tax.
I feel fucked!!!
Good review and info. Sounds good TY. I got mine today.
Looks like Federal brought back Nyclad.
I’d love to see you do the 150 grain action pistol version into the gel to see how that responds.
I use these in my Walther PPS they are great! I used them on a few practice watermelon and cantaloupe 🍈 and the break away pieces do break off very quickly.
Any chrono tests on the Syntech Defense 9mm through a 3 inch barrel?
Didn't Federal use to call this the Nyclad bullet.
How many rounds were tested with the Ballistics Gel for consistency? I would like to believe these are good to carry! Thumbs UP!
Keep this in my EDC it's good stuff
Uh, no measurements on the fragments? That's really the most important part!
I was wondering if you plan on testing the federal punch 9mm ammo
THANKS!
It runs great in my AKV.
Very nice video 😁
These rounds fragment after 2 inches. If you could cut the ballistic gel in half at the 3-4 inch mark & put pig ribs inside between the two layers of gel it would be appreciated! This would replicate the ribs inside the human body. Make sure you still do the heavy clothing test at the same time. I'm curious to know if the fragmenting parts have enough energy to pierce the bone & go through the 6 inches that they do without any bone resistance. If they go through the bone easily, I would say these are better than HST, Gold dots, Underwoods, etc. More room for error with shot placement. Everyone please thumbs up this comment so we can get this VITAL question anwsered!
Would have been better to see more expansion and weight retention, but it's probably hard to achieve with a polymer holding it together.
What? Did the central core lose any of its weight? I didn't see any fragments off the central core, it appeared to hold 100% of its weight and expand quite well.
@SJ What central core? The bullet fragmented. It expanded but failed to hold onto the petals. Any expansion that takes place is great as long as it keeps the expanded portions intact. You don't get much cavitation with 9mm and so you relying on the cutting action as the bullet penetrates to the vital organs. Hitting the vital organs directly is imperative with handguns because, unlike a rifle, you only have the expanded diameter to work with inside the body. With a rifle round, you have the entire diameter of the cavitation to work with.
you dont understand that its suppose to break off. thats why he didnt bother responding to you. stop talking like you now what yorue talkin about@@kyleduddleston4123
nice shooting
14 bucks, 174 gr 40 caliber and in my carry at all times.
I picked a box up.
Keep it down people will start buying it up and make the price go up
@@jeremyorr7469 4real just bought all 6 at my Wally world
Too much coffee, or... not enough.
I wanna see the syntech action pistol
'NyClad'. What's old is new again.
$50 for two boxes of 20 rounds each.. WTF this ammo and arms shortage sucks.. great video though..
$17.99 a box at local Big 5 Sporting Goods (EPTX 915)
I have a question. Why do people complain over the over penetration but when you test the ammo you want it to go threw 12 to 18 inch into a jell block and clearly the jell block end to end is longer than a hum body going stomic to back? And I just picked up a box of this in 45acp going to see if I like it.
It's just a set standard to show that it gets enough penetration and that it dumped most of it's energy within the target so that it wont have much energy left afterwards if it passes through a person to hurt someone else behind them(like in another room ect)..
You can read up on it here bit.ly/2WQbgp3
Also, look up Paul Harrell's channel. He uses different analogs than gel for his bullet penetration tests.
I have a question about wound channel. To me it looks like it has a few very narrow channels as opposed to say a lead hollow point bullet that has a real wide wound channel. Is this really more damaging than a lead hollowpoint? Doesn’t seem to me to be as damaging. Any expert on wound channels out there?
Wound channels work great on deer and hogs when you can wait 5 minutes for them to bleed out. The ONLY reliable way to stop a motivated 2 legged monster is to hit the central nervous system (think spine). With this round you get 4 shot attempts to hit the spine. If he's a really big fella and the fragments can't reach the spine, you're no worse off than a regular 9mm round because the central core still penetrates 18". Those other 3 fragments might also hit the heart, an artery, some other bits and would likely be more fatal than a regular round.
Interesting. I am curious, and I don't know the answer, but there is a difference between dissuading someone and incapacitating someone. With 9 mm rounds u can accomplish both. I really like 22lr. I can't think of someone walking through those but they do. Appreciate these videos and discussions. I don't think I would carry, even if I were allowed. But I do admire the US.
You should have done more than 1 round and without the clothas well. Just saying.
Why would he get naked?
Does anyone know if these are consider "lead-free"?
I believe they are.
Can anyone point me in the direction of a good training round that matches this load? I plan to shoot this in my carry gun to insure reliability...but eventually I want to train with something cheaper or in the same price point. Are these cheap enough to just use at the range? Thanks
Yeah Federal Syntech. fmj version
@@zipper978 the red 115 gr? Thanks
Is this steel or brass casings
Brass casings
It absolutely would be more damaging than a traditional hollow point. No lead exposure (except to the target) is a plus.
Those fragments travel to 8" of more by themselves. There are newer terminal ballistics models / theories that demonstrate higher wound channel from a flat fronted bullet than the rounded hollow point. That's not even considering the 3 addition wound tracks from sharp fragments (sharp cuts bleed more than crushing ones do).
If a couple rounds of .45 Ball wont solve your problems, you have too many problems.
X Bone hopefully they don’t see you pull the trigger or they’ll just step out of the way before impact.
Joking for the record
cuts and shreds
accuracy is really good he says and hes standing 5meters from the target... what a joker.
What gran are they??
Are these lead-free?
pho king nope. There’s a led warning on the box.
@jamison Thanks! Saw some at Walmart and was going to buy it for lead free hunting in the commie state but didn't see anything labeled on the box, locked inside the glass screen.
@@slee95838 The primer is free, but the bullet is all lead.
These guys are almost 35 bucks a box now 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ 9/3/2020
not on federals' website, or Optics Planet.
And now good luck finding any self defense 9mm
@@JediNV87 it’s around but stupid prices lol
but is it vegan?
😂😆😂😆 dummy just to shoot it tho.... Ur funny 🙂
Will these bullets be available for reloaders like the round points ? Or Is there any word yet?
I hope so - I'd love to see someone make a +P Custom Loading... imagine how deep the fragments would go at +10% loading. Also the 9mm bullets are HEAVY at 138gr. The 45ACP are lighter than normal at 200gr. I don't know why that is the case with the 9mm... but they certainly look like they work well. At 11.50 a box for 9mm, I might stock up on these; impressive performance if you aren't the type that thinks multiple wounds paths are somehow less effective than a single wound path. And these petals are going halfway through a 16inch block. If critics don't think that's deep enough for the 3 extra wounds paths to hit vitals or simply quicken incapacitation, then I scoff at their ignorance human anatomy.
@@testing2741
I totally agree with you about multiple semi deep wound channels and a single deep channel being more effective than a single path with a slightly bigger diameter( if the traditional hollowpoint even expands). I imagine that the reason the bullet weight is 138 grains for a 9mm because they wanted the base to retain a good portion of it's overall weight for consistently deep penetration. Only having 3 petals as opposed to 8 on the G2 RIP helps the petals weigh more and retain more of their velocity to penetrate deeper than the G2 RIP round with more skinny pieces of copper that weight almost nothing and would most certainly be stopped by bone.
Probably also still wanted those petals to be able to do some real damage internally once they were shed from the base. 3 bigger, heavier petals plus the base is definitely gonna have more potential of hitting vital organs and deeper, larger blood vessels. Those G2 rip shards might be sharp and more plentiful than the 3 petals on the syntech defense round, but they're needle thin and much lighter compared to the three petals of this round.
@@testing2741 The fragments might actually penetrate less if there was more power behind it due to it opening up/fragmenting earlier.. I've seen tests that show it going about +/- 1130fps, which actually isn't bad for a 138grain booollet.
What about penetration through barriers? Bet not so good.
Are you planning to shoot someone through a wall or windshield lmfao. In almost every civil defensive shooting, it never ends with someone having to shoot through a barrier. If you want something for that, hornady makes an incredible round. Its call Hornady Critical Duty, made for cops for if they ever have to shoot through a barrier.
I wouldn’t trust my life off one test of one shot...most tests take an average of several shots (5 being pretty standard). But thanks for the video
TN Outdoors does a test of these. He shoots several shots into a block. Look it up. You'll be surprised by just how consistently these do what they do. All the fragments all go to darn near the exact same distance!
Tweak much?
LEAD FREE PRIMERS ARE A NO GO. I don't care what the ballistics are. In my experience lead free primers have a dramatically shorter self life than standard primers. Combined with the harsh environment created during ccw (sweat, vibration, etc) and I wouldn't trust it with my life. I'm all for getting lead out of more ammo. But as far as primers are concerned I won't carry rounds that use them until they improve their longevity. It's fine for the range. But beyond that I don't trust it yet.
What do you mean by this? I don’t have a ton of experience with less free primers
@@roweshowboxing yeah i don;t get it - I've had them fail at a rate different than lead-containing primers... they just cost more when I'm loading rounds because the more material is more expensive... all the more reason this ammo being cheap is impressive.
testing2741
So you like them or don’t?
Shoot it through glass
Wait till the democrats see this they will try to ban it or replace with rubber. Great home or personal defense rounds. I still like black talons what is the difference.
black talons arent that great really
Sweeeet
how NOT TO make a video
You have the best job Sir 🫡 amazing ammo & affordable