Thank you so much for another update, I'm glad someone can discuss objectively what the DiRT team can and can't do regarding licencing and their limitations, something that usually people forget that it's not as simple as simply recording the current build of the game and add it to the videos, furthermore, these series of videos are probably already a few weeks or even months old before they came out, (EA should have asked for them to prepare a timeline in order to reveal the game and release weekly videos until release), so it's to expect that the gameplay footage might not be up-to-date! Loving your content, keep it up, and thank you for your hard work confirming some of these facts!
I wonder if "unexpected moments" will return. It's a really cool feature that previous dirt rally games had to make the stages feel a bit more alive. You could see helicopters, drones, crashes cars, animals on the road etc.
Hope they drop the stage breaking ones like Wiper failure., intermittent Misfire, Morse code lighting and pretty sure Ive had Brake pressure failure. Always kicked in at Poland by the LH entry chicane near the house or maybe that was just my poor skill level
Poland chicanes are on asphalt surface and u are there on gravel tires which offer less grip on that suface, easy lock-ups that increase braking distance+can't steer.@@ochsosfollies
I've been playing a lot of WRC 10 recently and the changes in light and sporadic rain showers on some of the Central European stages it feels very much like a perilous journey at dusk to Grandma's house in the woods. Glad they're taking that part of the WRC series into this game
FYI DR2.0 didn't have "a few" levels of degradation. It had 150 levels, one for every car in an event with 5 classes and 30 cars in each. but you could set it to go from completely clean to fully rutted no matter how many drivers there were (2 to 30) in the custom championship mode, which included in online multiplayer.
So they (devs) didnt invite you to the Ultra hush hush secret meeting , and every time you upload a video .. they release another snippet of information ..... Hmm ...... " Theys outs to get ya, I tells ya Outs to gets ya" :) Paranoia stoking aside .. Thanks for the updated update. Great to hear about currency and monetisation being thwarted. I wonder how many episodes you will upload before its release good job you arent using Roman numerals .
Haha you would think so, right? Thanks for the compliment. If there's enough new information to fill a video, I will put one together. No idea how many update videos that will result in by the time the game comes out. Also have plenty of ideas for videos afterwards.
EA never mess with sim driving. i expect one of the most beautiful WRC ever.........since the unique SONY EVOLUTION STUDIOS legendary gameplay. yes it will be GREAT. I LOVE EA RACING STUDIOS.
I just wish Codemasters make this game great for the rally fans THEN make whatever EA wants, just one great game and after that they can make 100 “accessible” games for profit
since the trailer release I've kept thinking that this game will be good but in my opinion I believe the next game they come out with will be amazing as long as EA don't intervene too much. can't wait for this game
Be positive! I believe we never had seen a game like this! This is like, if Fifa and PES joined in 2021! The Dirt team always made the better game, but lacked the WRC license, which they have now. Without restrictions, this is the best rally game since the old Evolution Studios' ones
Great video. If the sound is as good as or better then Dirt Rally 2.0 then I’m super happy. Cuz that game had incredible sounding cars, and amazing ambience
I'm just glad Codemasters took over! Their physics paralleled with (also new for them) UE5 rendering could/should result in a nice sim. And also, good telemetry is to be expected from them. Niiice 😊😊😊
There won't be any loot boxes, just "surprise mechanics". Don't trust anything EA-related, don't pre-order WRC, no matter how good it looks (and it does look pretty good so far).
@SimVansevenant , Thank you for your reply. Imagine, for example, a roulette like in forza horizon games, but with upgrades for your car (thouse you bought in Dirt Rally 2.0). Technically, it's not a loot box, and there's no in-game currency involved. Just get a roulette spin for every completed event and a random upgrade as a result of that. Or, maybe there will only be cosmetics in those spins. That sounds OK, isn't it? Well, imagine Colin Mcrae's blue-yellow livery for 1995 Impreza locked. Everything I mentioned here is not a wild guess, but a conclusion made based on EA's previous decisions. They openly said that " there will be no loot boxes in Battlefiled 5". At the release game had those "battle unlocks" (or however it was called), that technicaly were not a loot box, because there was no literal box that was being opened, but they worked exactly as loot boxes. Or let's remember Battlefront 2. A Star Wars game where the most iconic Star Wars characted, DARTH VADER, was locked behind roughly 40 hours of grind. Many fans literally bought it to play as Darth Vader. What stops them from doing the same with some of the most iconic rally cars and liveries? Sure, not the rally1 ones, FIA won't let them do that, but Colin Mcrae's Impreza or Walter Rohl's Lancia 037, why not?
@@andreysmirnov8892 You are welcome. Always open to discuss topics. No, those iconic liveries will be available from the get-go if they are in the game. When it comes to buying parts for your car, it won't be randomly given to you because it was already mentioned in the past that you will earn money from competing in events which you would then be able use in order to purchase specific car parts for your car build, having the option between brand new and used parts. The only thing I could think of is some sort of RNG in regards to design sponsors and sponsor for the livery editor which would be perfectly fine to be honest.
This is awesome but wow I'm really gonna miss the DS 21 also no Volvos or vintage Toyotas? A total bummer, I did hear that Toyota has some sort of beef with Codemasters though.
@@SimsRacingDesign When they made special mention of aerodynamic simulations in the Gameplay Deep Dive, I was effectively sold. It meant to me that they're paying close attention to almost everything. Doesn't mean they'll necessarily nail every single thing they mentioned - realistic expectations, again - but to me it means they're paying close attention to almost every critical facet of rallying. That's enormously exciting. Now, I cannot wait to see how they're gonna incorporate the Electronic Centre Differential from the 2017-21 cars into the gameplay, and how much of a difference it actually made to handling.
@@petertromp8786 Loads of good stuff still to discover, isn't it? I'm no expert by any means on the intricate workings of differentials and or aerodynamics so I should probably read up on a few things beforehand. I have a basic understanding but that probably won't be enough to figure out how "realistic" their model works.
@@SimsRacingDesign I think differentials work on basic mechanical principles. Even in DiRT Rally 2.0, the difference between a car with a centre differential - the Citroen C4, for instance - and ones without - like the Peugot 206 - is massive. Cars with only two differentials, front and rear (like the current WRC hybrid cars), have more of a pendulum like momentum sway as the weight shifts from axle to axle as the power is applied (you can even see it from current season WRC onboards); whereas the addition of a centre differential adds a lot more stability to the handling of the car and allows for even more intricate fine tuning of the car's handling, which is always a good thing. The Electronic Centre Differential of the 2017-21 cars is even more interesting, as you had a variable differential that changes its properties on the fly as the steering is turned. It's one of the main reasons those cars were so incredibly fast and effectively "flat out" machines. As for aerodynamics, this is the most interesting element in all of motor racing, no less so when it comes to rallying. Here is an EXCELLENT site that I discovered not too long ago that goes into great detail about the aerodynamics of different eras of rally cars: www.wrcwings.tech/
@@petertromp8786 thanks so much for the insights! That explains the more twitchy behaviour of the 206 if you combine that with the short wheel base, right? Also explains why the 98 Impreza demands a bit more work and effort to really be able to get the maximum out of it.
I played almost every codemaster game, but with dirt5 they loosed me, so I wait until this comes out, and then decide it I once more step in a codemaster game.
You need to keep in mind that the dev team responsible for the DiRT Rally franchise are a completely separate team from the once that created the DiRT franchise at the time D5 came out. They focused on a more fun and arcade style game whilst the DiRT Rally Team focused on a simulation style game.
Where did you get the info that there will be ANY surface degradation? Sounds like you made it up to me, I've been following news around this and never heard a chirp about surface degradation. And yes, the stages shown in the trailers DO look flat as all heck.
Links to the articles are in the description of the video. I've also asked around and confirmed it with, let's say, people who would know. There is a chance they will showcase it in the official EA Sports WRC "Modes & Features Deep Dive" video coming next week. You'll see, it's going to be in the game. 100% sure.
You should have been the 1st person Codemasters and EA contacted to give info about the game!! Bastards! 😅 Awesome video, man 👌 You are very fair when it comes to sound and graphics. I would say a lot of the car sounds from DR2 will be copied over for this game, which isn't really a bad thing imo, as the cars in DR2 sound great (for the most part)
Haha well, that's not up to me, is it? The audio that was accurate in DR2.0 will be used in EA Sports WRC. And if they were able to find someone willing to lend their rally car for recordings, they would do anything they can to make that happen. Sometimes we don't get the audio from the actual car because they can't find one, especially when it comes to rare and/or classic rally cars.
We don't have any loot boxes or currency in the game. But you get 5 VIP Passes with additional content! What are VIP Passes? If this is a clever twist to avoid calling them loot boxes this is ridiculous.
It has been confirmed that the 5 VIP Season Passes will include various cosmetical items like car liveries as well as suit and helmet designs. Perhaps additional sponsor logos and design patterns for the livery editor. As I said, purely cosmetical stuff which is basically trivial. Doesn't impact the game or gives certain players extra content or a way to get an advantage over others (pay-2-win).
"There are limits on how much we can damage some cars, and we work closely with each manufacturer to make sure we respect their requirements" Translation - We've included a mini game of "hunt the scratch on the bumper" after a 160km/s impact with a tree.
EA: "There are no lootboxes or virtual currencies in the game!" You: "That says it all, right? Now, I do think there will be virtual currencies..." Bruh...
Well, you need to understand that there are 2 types of virtual currencies. You have ingame currency you can buy with real money from the store and you have ingame currency you can earn by playing the game. I believe the comment by the official EA Sports WRC media account refers to the first one. You won't be able to buy ingame currency with real life money. Hope that clarifies it a bit more.
Just hope particle effects like dust clouds and exhaust flames will be good as DR2.0, from what they showed up until now the answer is no, but hope too that these gameplay are months old, so until the release there will be some improvements
No need to hope those are several months old... It's an established fact backed by comments from people working on the project or have experienc working with the team in the past. 😉
Maybe you should release more videos, then we would get more information while they're uploading, wouldn't we? :)) Aside from the joke, thanks for these videos and all the information :)
Honestly I'm pretty excited for this game..Especially with the good news of dynamic weather & a day/night cycle. The main thing that I'm hoping that is Improved/Overhauled is the career mode because in DR 2.0, it was Bare Bones and Weak. It was just a series of rallies with repair intervals and not much else. In the Previous WRC Rally games, it was superior(Despite having flaws). You had to maintain a budget, you had to assign crew to your races and make sure that their fatigue is kept in check. You could pick and choose what you wanted to do via your monthly schedule(Including rest for your crew & training for yourself etc) You also had to pay expenses(Crew pay and car repairs that could leave large dents in your bank account if you crashed/messed up too much). The older WRC Games had wayy more career deph and hopefully Codemasters has something similar/deep enough.
They already know how to do those things. They just decided not to in the past but instead focus on more important game elements. With the backing of EA, there's a lot more budget and manpower available so they can now go all out.
@@SimsRacingDesign love your videos, keep the great work, soon you won't have to record your own paces in a game, this game is going to be amazing, this is my last hope to this game industry. I'm a kind of Cody fanboy .
I'm actually so stoked for this game. I told myself a long time ago that I would never pre-order games but when I saw that this game was only gonna be $53.95 NZD I had to grab it. I was not expecting it to have as much content as it does and we haven't even seen everything that it has to offer!
Thanks for providing all the news! I'm wondering if the surface degradation will work similar to real life, as in the first few cars have to clean the stage, and with every car that goes through, the grip increases slightly. I'm probably not as good to judge if that's what happens in DR2.0, but I feel it's the opposite, actually. The later you go, the harder it gets. Perhaps the grip does increase, but the ruts make it much harder. I'm also wondering if testing rules may have something to do with the quality of the Rally1 sounds. The teams only have a limited amount of test days they can do in a year, and perhaps there was never much time or good environment to get higher quality recordings, as the teams want to get the maximum out of their testing days and probably aren't bothered much about developers needing to record the sound of their cars. Pretty sure the cars are not allowed to run outside of events and official testing.
The surface deg should replicate real life indeed. For the audio recordings they would be allowed to have those meet ups outside the maximum testing session. These are just to record the cars and don't have the purpose of further developing the car.
There will definitely be ongoing costs for the game. I'm going to guess seasons again but there will be no opportunity to buy a lifetime pass because this game will just be updated for years to come
When you hire interns to work on your game, you don't have to pay them as much. Definitely not DLC, because we'll be getting ALL 17 countries in the 45-EUR package, so any DLC will be just cosmetics.
The 5 VIP Season Passes will contain cosmetical items such as liveries, designs for helmets and suits, etc. It's a little extra you receive when pre-ordering the game. Probably will be able to acquire them post-launch as well but it's not something like cars or locations.
No that won't be the case. The base game will have 78 cars and 18 locations. None of those will be DLC. That's a well-established fact. 😉 As far as I know, there is no DLC planned with packs containing cars and/or locations.
It really is looking good thus far, the best part about playing on PC is that with Steam's refund policy there really is no risk to preordering the game. Really my only concern at this point is I haven't seen anything about community events, which are what keeps me going back to DR2.
So only VR for PC. That's a big miss - im not sure that i will spent anymore on none VR titles for Playstation PS5 . might as well just keep on driving DIRT Rally 2.0 .
08:00 EA has no excuses anymore when it comes to audio. UE5 has advanced sound propagation simulation built-in. Look look at the now 1 (2?) year old UE5 tech demo.
any more information about widescreen / triple screen support? game specification say it does. but all videos with Armstrong in a rig are in front a sad little monitor. wondering if it's worth swapping 49" for tripple screen
if the loot boxes dont apply now, they will in future titles. ea now has the monopoly on rally games. they may ease us into it by not acting like ea straightaway, but that will only last so long.
Not so sure I'm hyped for this game simply because of who is making it. If the past has anything to do with it, it will be buggy and updates will break parts of the game. I hope it will be good but I've been burned on the hype way too much on game releases in the past 4 years
excited for the game but can't help but feel disappointed by a backwards step in graphics. They look about the same level as Dirt 4. lets hope everything else is a step forward
Video footage is from several months ago which is important to keep in mind. Also the video compression for TH-cam doesn't do the graphics justice. Once you will play it on high/ultra settings, it'll look far better.
Well, you may not know but Toyota are very reluctant and difficult when it comes to licensing their cars. Something went wrong over a decade ago which turned the relationship between Codies and Toyota sour. Toyota is the reason why we don't have any of their Group A or WRC cars.
I hate to be the bugbear about monetization, but the 5 VIP passes for pre-ordering heavily implies that there will be a battle pass system (race pass?) that will likely have a free tier and a premium paid tier (VIP). I don't see any other possible explanation. I hate battlepass type systems, it's never sat right with me to have to work towards something after I pay for it. I'm trying to ignore the whole situation, since it's looking like the base game alone is a worthy sequel to DR2.0 and I can ignore the monetization if I so choose, but the precedence it sets is disturbing. I'd much prefer paid expansions for new content added to game as opposed to paying for the "privilege" to unlock it by jumping through whatever gameplay hoops they set up.
The 5 VIP season passes will only contain cosmetical items such as custom liveries, designs for suits and helmets, etc. If you pre-order, you'll get those cosmetics for free. If you don't, you'll have the option to get them after launch. Apart from that, there are no plans for more.
its hilarious that they have to limit damage to whatever the manufacturer is comfortable with. its not like any of us are going to judge a car by how broken it is after we roll it off a cliff in a video game. its just so darn silly. are they going to limit the damage real cars in the wrc are allowed to get? ban the filming of crashes, or censor the second half of a stage after a crash so we cant see the damage? lol. its just so darn weird to me.
For the manufacturers this game is a promotional/marketing tool. Having your car smashed up each time you hit a little post doesn't look good in their eyes. That's why we never see actual real damage representation in a game. Sure there are a few outliers like RBR but apart from that... The biggest franchise games never have it. Think of Gran Turismo, Forza, F1, ACC, etc.
Toyota is a difficult manufacturer to license cars from. Their demands are sometimes unreasonable. There's also a situation that soured the relationship between them and Codies which means that they aren't willing to license their cars to them. The Yaris Rally1 is in the game because it's part of the official WRC license. All other cars not in WRC, WRC2 and Junior WRC have to be licensed individually.
This game is going to be ea trash full of loot boxes and Bitcoin. Jk. Great video. Gives you a sense of how hard it is to work with manufacturers, audio and a (very) demanding public
Either way, I think I'll stick with Dirt Rally 2.0. I don't trust EA period anymore. They say there won't be aggressive monetization. I've been burned so many times I don't believe them anymore. They said the same when they took over the F1 games... Yeah look how *that* turned out. Everything they touch turns into a microtransaction filled hell. Call me cynical, but that's just how I see EA now. But hey, I hope I'm wrong. It could be great, and EA may not be up to their old tricks. I'm going to wait a month or two after launch before I decide to pick it up or not, just to see what happens. *Zero* *fucking* *trust* *for* *you* EA.
F1 23's monetization is purely cosmetical items such as liveries, suit and helmet designs, sponsor and design decals for the livery editor. The only thing it does that is unfair, is the xp-boost. That last one shouldn't happen in the WRC game though. If it's cosmetical stuff only, which is basically trivial, I'd be perfectly fine with that.
And still people don't believe it. If there's anything similar in the game it'll be cosmetical which is basically trivial and of no real value or purpose. I'm perfectly fine with that.
I don't agree with that licence thing for sound as iv created my own games using my own sounds and sold it to people I don't understand why u wouldn't record ur own wrc car sound and just do it 😂 theirs way to much farting and pussying about the way you explained it with sound if that's the case
It is a fact backed up by comments from people working on the project. What you designed by the way... Was that for a major officially licensed AAA racing game? Think about it...
@@SimsRacingDesign apologies to M sport, I didn’t see the 17 fiesta on the car list , the polo will be interesting. Puma was just a joke because it’s been a nightmare on the past how many rallies 😂
@SimVansevenant No, No loss at all I like playing in VR on psvr2, so no loss for me it doesn't have psvr2support, just a loss of sales for EA sports wrc in the psvr2 market.
Well, there's nothing the developers can do about that. It's what the manufacturers that set the demands in this case. If the devs could do it, they would.
please keep making update videos! They are super fun to watch!
Thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment and support!
I'll do my utmost best to keep you all up-to-date.
Agree 💯 😁
Thank you so much for another update, I'm glad someone can discuss objectively what the DiRT team can and can't do regarding licencing and their limitations, something that usually people forget that it's not as simple as simply recording the current build of the game and add it to the videos, furthermore, these series of videos are probably already a few weeks or even months old before they came out, (EA should have asked for them to prepare a timeline in order to reveal the game and release weekly videos until release), so it's to expect that the gameplay footage might not be up-to-date!
Loving your content, keep it up, and thank you for your hard work confirming some of these facts!
Thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment and support!
It's indeed important to inform people a bit more about the inner workings of the business. 😉
@@SimsRacingDesign which unreal engine version its running?
@@junaidjainoodeen8527 we don't know. They haven't disclosed that yet.
You said it Well!!! It's not as easy as people may think!
I wonder if "unexpected moments" will return. It's a really cool feature that previous dirt rally games had to make the stages feel a bit more alive.
You could see helicopters, drones, crashes cars, animals on the road etc.
I suspect those will be present as well in EA Sports WRC. Can't say that with 100% certainty though.
Hope they drop the stage breaking ones like Wiper failure., intermittent Misfire, Morse code lighting and pretty sure Ive had Brake pressure failure. Always kicked in at Poland by the LH entry chicane near the house or maybe that was just my poor skill level
Poland chicanes are on asphalt surface and u are there on gravel tires which offer less grip on that suface, easy lock-ups that increase braking distance+can't steer.@@ochsosfollies
I came for the Sax and wasn't disappointed. Another good video, thanks.
Thanks mate! Appreciate you for allowing me to use the Finland clip. 😉
Great video..If it’s dirt 2.0 with better tarmac and all the bells and whistles of WRC I’m well in👍
You and me both, mate. 😁
I've been playing a lot of WRC 10 recently and the changes in light and sporadic rain showers on some of the Central European stages it feels very much like a perilous journey at dusk to Grandma's house in the woods. Glad they're taking that part of the WRC series into this game
FYI DR2.0 didn't have "a few" levels of degradation. It had 150 levels, one for every car in an event with 5 classes and 30 cars in each. but you could set it to go from completely clean to fully rutted no matter how many drivers there were (2 to 30) in the custom championship mode, which included in online multiplayer.
I should've been more specific as I was referring to what happens in career. For multiplayer clubs you could select how much degradation you wanted.
SIM HARDCORE DRIVING as we love it.....................great graphics too. so promissing. THANK YOU EA PRO STAFF.
So they (devs) didnt invite you to the Ultra hush hush secret meeting , and every time you upload a video .. they release another snippet of information .....
Hmm ...... " Theys outs to get ya, I tells ya Outs to gets ya" :)
Paranoia stoking aside .. Thanks for the updated update. Great to hear about currency and monetisation being thwarted.
I wonder how many episodes you will upload before its release good job you arent using Roman numerals .
Haha you would think so, right?
Thanks for the compliment.
If there's enough new information to fill a video, I will put one together. No idea how many update videos that will result in by the time the game comes out.
Also have plenty of ideas for videos afterwards.
EA never mess with sim driving. i expect one of the most beautiful WRC ever.........since the unique SONY EVOLUTION STUDIOS legendary gameplay. yes it will be GREAT. I LOVE EA RACING STUDIOS.
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Don't think I'll be able to add another soundtrack to any of my future videos, will I? 😂
I just wish Codemasters make this game great for the rally fans THEN make whatever EA wants, just one great game and after that they can make 100 “accessible” games for profit
since the trailer release I've kept thinking that this game will be good but in my opinion I believe the next game they come out with will be amazing as long as EA don't intervene too much. can't wait for this game
You and me both, mate. 😁
Be positive! I believe we never had seen a game like this! This is like, if Fifa and PES joined in 2021! The Dirt team always made the better game, but lacked the WRC license, which they have now. Without restrictions, this is the best rally game since the old Evolution Studios' ones
EA always finds a way for micro transactions
Won't be any meaningful micro transactions... They've said it will all be cosmetical stuff so it's basically trivial.
Wow, okay Im now excited for this. I didnt know what exciting new things they'll add but all this is great news!
It definitely is, mate.
Another great video, Sim. See you on or soon after 27th September for another update (or two, haha) as your work schedule allows
Haha thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment and support.
I never associated EA with good news but this is a promising start...
thx for info looking forward for more of your videos and game in general
Thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment and support!
Great video.
If the sound is as good as or better then Dirt Rally 2.0 then I’m super happy. Cuz that game had incredible sounding cars, and amazing ambience
The audio from DR2.0 will return in EA Sports WRC. The cars that they were able to record since 2020 or 2021 will now be added to the WRC game.
@@SimsRacingDesign excellent!
I'm just glad Codemasters took over! Their physics paralleled with (also new for them) UE5 rendering could/should result in a nice sim. And also, good telemetry is to be expected from them. Niiice 😊😊😊
It's going to be fun for sure!
Useful commentary, thanks for sharing. Based on what I've seen so far I'm excited for this game
You and me both, mate!
I feel hyped, man!! 🎉🎉👍
You and me both, mate. 😁
@@SimsRacingDesign 😄😄 can imagine!
Very good content thank you. This has me really looking forward to this game
Thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment and support!
i wish the steering model is gona be like in dirt rally 2.0 so a full access to 540° of steering
Can't wait for this game!
You and me both! 😁
The social media manager must be pulling out the details whenever you post. SO KEEP POSTING
Haha I won't have as much time as I had the past few weeks because I need to start working next week.
@SimVansevenant ooof, well hopefully you get a bit of time. Glad to see the vids taking off
@@AmbientMike Might only be able to upload on Friday or Saturday. But if the news comes on Thursday or Friday, that should be good enough. Haha
I wonder if the builder cars can be completely thrashed, since they have no manufacturer to appease regarding damage.
I suspect there might actually be more extensive damage than the other cars. Great point!
Colin mcrae rally in 2004 had amazing realism with damage
There won't be any loot boxes, just "surprise mechanics". Don't trust anything EA-related, don't pre-order WRC, no matter how good it looks (and it does look pretty good so far).
And which surprise mechanics do you think will be in there?
I'm convinced there won't be any of that.
@SimVansevenant , Thank you for your reply.
Imagine, for example, a roulette like in forza horizon games, but with upgrades for your car (thouse you bought in Dirt Rally 2.0). Technically, it's not a loot box, and there's no in-game currency involved. Just get a roulette spin for every completed event and a random upgrade as a result of that.
Or, maybe there will only be cosmetics in those spins. That sounds OK, isn't it? Well, imagine Colin Mcrae's blue-yellow livery for 1995 Impreza locked.
Everything I mentioned here is not a wild guess, but a conclusion made based on EA's previous decisions. They openly said that " there will be no loot boxes in Battlefiled 5". At the release game had those "battle unlocks" (or however it was called), that technicaly were not a loot box, because there was no literal box that was being opened, but they worked exactly as loot boxes.
Or let's remember Battlefront 2. A Star Wars game where the most iconic Star Wars characted, DARTH VADER, was locked behind roughly 40 hours of grind. Many fans literally bought it to play as Darth Vader. What stops them from doing the same with some of the most iconic rally cars and liveries? Sure, not the rally1 ones, FIA won't let them do that, but Colin Mcrae's Impreza or Walter Rohl's Lancia 037, why not?
@@andreysmirnov8892 You are welcome. Always open to discuss topics.
No, those iconic liveries will be available from the get-go if they are in the game.
When it comes to buying parts for your car, it won't be randomly given to you because it was already mentioned in the past that you will earn money from competing in events which you would then be able use in order to purchase specific car parts for your car build, having the option between brand new and used parts.
The only thing I could think of is some sort of RNG in regards to design sponsors and sponsor for the livery editor which would be perfectly fine to be honest.
This is awesome but wow I'm really gonna miss the DS 21 also no Volvos or vintage Toyotas? A total bummer, I did hear that Toyota has some sort of beef with Codemasters though.
Well, we do have some fantastic new addition too not many people expected. It's a give and take really...
Thanks so very much. Keep making such videos on wrc 23 codematers.
Will do, my good Sir.
My Xbox controller has been itching since 2019...finally a true next gen game.
People need to be reasonable with their expectations. So far, in the way the game is shaping up, Codemasters are over delivering.
Fully-agree with you.
@@SimsRacingDesign When they made special mention of aerodynamic simulations in the Gameplay Deep Dive, I was effectively sold. It meant to me that they're paying close attention to almost everything. Doesn't mean they'll necessarily nail every single thing they mentioned - realistic expectations, again - but to me it means they're paying close attention to almost every critical facet of rallying. That's enormously exciting.
Now, I cannot wait to see how they're gonna incorporate the Electronic Centre Differential from the 2017-21 cars into the gameplay, and how much of a difference it actually made to handling.
@@petertromp8786 Loads of good stuff still to discover, isn't it?
I'm no expert by any means on the intricate workings of differentials and or aerodynamics so I should probably read up on a few things beforehand. I have a basic understanding but that probably won't be enough to figure out how "realistic" their model works.
@@SimsRacingDesign I think differentials work on basic mechanical principles. Even in DiRT Rally 2.0, the difference between a car with a centre differential - the Citroen C4, for instance - and ones without - like the Peugot 206 - is massive. Cars with only two differentials, front and rear (like the current WRC hybrid cars), have more of a pendulum like momentum sway as the weight shifts from axle to axle as the power is applied (you can even see it from current season WRC onboards); whereas the addition of a centre differential adds a lot more stability to the handling of the car and allows for even more intricate fine tuning of the car's handling, which is always a good thing. The Electronic Centre Differential of the 2017-21 cars is even more interesting, as you had a variable differential that changes its properties on the fly as the steering is turned. It's one of the main reasons those cars were so incredibly fast and effectively "flat out" machines.
As for aerodynamics, this is the most interesting element in all of motor racing, no less so when it comes to rallying. Here is an EXCELLENT site that I discovered not too long ago that goes into great detail about the aerodynamics of different eras of rally cars:
www.wrcwings.tech/
@@petertromp8786 thanks so much for the insights! That explains the more twitchy behaviour of the 206 if you combine that with the short wheel base, right?
Also explains why the 98 Impreza demands a bit more work and effort to really be able to get the maximum out of it.
I played almost every codemaster game, but with dirt5 they loosed me, so I wait until this comes out, and then decide it I once more step in a codemaster game.
You need to keep in mind that the dev team responsible for the DiRT Rally franchise are a completely separate team from the once that created the DiRT franchise at the time D5 came out.
They focused on a more fun and arcade style game whilst the DiRT Rally Team focused on a simulation style game.
Where did you get the info that there will be ANY surface degradation? Sounds like you made it up to me, I've been following news around this and never heard a chirp about surface degradation. And yes, the stages shown in the trailers DO look flat as all heck.
Links to the articles are in the description of the video.
I've also asked around and confirmed it with, let's say, people who would know.
There is a chance they will showcase it in the official EA Sports WRC "Modes & Features Deep Dive" video coming next week.
You'll see, it's going to be in the game. 100% sure.
You should have been the 1st person Codemasters and EA contacted to give info about the game!! Bastards! 😅
Awesome video, man 👌
You are very fair when it comes to sound and graphics. I would say a lot of the car sounds from DR2 will be copied over for this game, which isn't really a bad thing imo, as the cars in DR2 sound great (for the most part)
Haha well, that's not up to me, is it?
The audio that was accurate in DR2.0 will be used in EA Sports WRC. And if they were able to find someone willing to lend their rally car for recordings, they would do anything they can to make that happen. Sometimes we don't get the audio from the actual car because they can't find one, especially when it comes to rare and/or classic rally cars.
We don't have any loot boxes or currency in the game. But you get 5 VIP Passes with additional content!
What are VIP Passes? If this is a clever twist to avoid calling them loot boxes this is ridiculous.
It has been confirmed that the 5 VIP Season Passes will include various cosmetical items like car liveries as well as suit and helmet designs. Perhaps additional sponsor logos and design patterns for the livery editor.
As I said, purely cosmetical stuff which is basically trivial. Doesn't impact the game or gives certain players extra content or a way to get an advantage over others (pay-2-win).
"There are limits on how much we can damage some cars, and we work closely with each manufacturer to make sure we respect their requirements"
Translation - We've included a mini game of "hunt the scratch on the bumper" after a 160km/s impact with a tree.
No, won't be like that. It's part of a hardcore damage mode so it'll be far more extensive than what you think. 😉
Nice.
EA: "There are no lootboxes or virtual currencies in the game!"
You: "That says it all, right? Now, I do think there will be virtual currencies..."
Bruh...
Well, you need to understand that there are 2 types of virtual currencies. You have ingame currency you can buy with real money from the store and you have ingame currency you can earn by playing the game. I believe the comment by the official EA Sports WRC media account refers to the first one. You won't be able to buy ingame currency with real life money. Hope that clarifies it a bit more.
Just hope particle effects like dust clouds and exhaust flames will be good as DR2.0, from what they showed up until now the answer is no, but hope too that these gameplay are months old, so until the release there will be some improvements
No need to hope those are several months old... It's an established fact backed by comments from people working on the project or have experienc working with the team in the past. 😉
Maybe you should release more videos, then we would get more information while they're uploading, wouldn't we? :))
Aside from the joke, thanks for these videos and all the information :)
Haha that would be great, wouldn't it? Haha
Thanks for the compliment.
I swear they release news right after he posts!
Honestly I'm pretty excited for this game..Especially with the good news of dynamic weather & a day/night cycle.
The main thing that I'm hoping that is Improved/Overhauled is the career mode because in DR 2.0, it was Bare Bones and Weak. It was just a series of rallies with repair intervals and not much else. In the Previous WRC Rally games, it was superior(Despite having flaws). You had to maintain a budget, you had to assign crew to your races and make sure that their fatigue is kept in check. You could pick and choose what you wanted to do via your monthly schedule(Including rest for your crew & training for yourself etc) You also had to pay expenses(Crew pay and car repairs that could leave large dents in your bank account if you crashed/messed up too much). The older WRC Games had wayy more career deph and hopefully Codemasters has something similar/deep enough.
The career mode will be far more fleshed out compared to what was in DR2.0.
@@SimsRacingDesign Here's hoping that it is better because they coukd learn alot from the previous WRC Games
They already know how to do those things. They just decided not to in the past but instead focus on more important game elements. With the backing of EA, there's a lot more budget and manpower available so they can now go all out.
The wait is almost over
Yes indeed.
@@SimsRacingDesign love your videos, keep the great work, soon you won't have to record your own paces in a game, this game is going to be amazing, this is my last hope to this game industry. I'm a kind of Cody fanboy .
@@Werferharfer thanks mate! Appreciate the compliment and support!
@@SimsRacingDesign you deserve dude. The hype is real. 😁
I'm actually so stoked for this game. I told myself a long time ago that I would never pre-order games but when I saw that this game was only gonna be $53.95 NZD I had to grab it. I was not expecting it to have as much content as it does and we haven't even seen everything that it has to offer!
Everything is very promising, isn't it?
Thanks for providing all the news!
I'm wondering if the surface degradation will work similar to real life, as in the first few cars have to clean the stage, and with every car that goes through, the grip increases slightly. I'm probably not as good to judge if that's what happens in DR2.0, but I feel it's the opposite, actually. The later you go, the harder it gets. Perhaps the grip does increase, but the ruts make it much harder.
I'm also wondering if testing rules may have something to do with the quality of the Rally1 sounds. The teams only have a limited amount of test days they can do in a year, and perhaps there was never much time or good environment to get higher quality recordings, as the teams want to get the maximum out of their testing days and probably aren't bothered much about developers needing to record the sound of their cars. Pretty sure the cars are not allowed to run outside of events and official testing.
The surface deg should replicate real life indeed.
For the audio recordings they would be allowed to have those meet ups outside the maximum testing session. These are just to record the cars and don't have the purpose of further developing the car.
There will definitely be ongoing costs for the game. I'm going to guess seasons again but there will be no opportunity to buy a lifetime pass because this game will just be updated for years to come
There's no indication of that being the case.
I'm interested to see what their reason ends up being for the lower cost.
Probably DLC
@@reznov3Dyeah this
I heard that's due to an agreement in place with the FIA. Matching the price of the KT games.
When you hire interns to work on your game, you don't have to pay them as much. Definitely not DLC, because we'll be getting ALL 17 countries in the 45-EUR package, so any DLC will be just cosmetics.
maybe because it looks like it's going to be a yearly title, so the games after this one will not have all that much new stuff
And what is a VIP Rally Pass? Plus, why do we need them...
The 5 VIP Season Passes will contain cosmetical items such as liveries, designs for helmets and suits, etc. It's a little extra you receive when pre-ordering the game. Probably will be able to acquire them post-launch as well but it's not something like cars or locations.
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im hyped but scared that this game will have milion dlc with Cars/stages
No that won't be the case. The base game will have 78 cars and 18 locations. None of those will be DLC. That's a well-established fact. 😉
As far as I know, there is no DLC planned with packs containing cars and/or locations.
It really is looking good thus far, the best part about playing on PC is that with Steam's refund policy there really is no risk to preordering the game. Really my only concern at this point is I haven't seen anything about community events, which are what keeps me going back to DR2.
Should know more about that by the end of next week. 😉
So only VR for PC. That's a big miss - im not sure that i will spent anymore on none VR titles for Playstation PS5 . might as well just keep on driving DIRT Rally 2.0 .
08:00 EA has no excuses anymore when it comes to audio. UE5 has advanced sound propagation simulation built-in. Look look at the now 1 (2?) year old UE5 tech demo.
Well, we don't know which version of Unreal they are designing the game in. It looks more like UE4 but for some reason they aren't disclosing it.
any more information about widescreen / triple screen support? game specification say it does. but all videos with Armstrong in a rig are in front a sad little monitor. wondering if it's worth swapping 49" for tripple screen
It will have triple screen support. But that's pretty much what we know so far. Suspect we'll learn more about it in next week's deep dive.
if the loot boxes dont apply now, they will in future titles. ea now has the monopoly on rally games. they may ease us into it by not acting like ea straightaway, but that will only last so long.
If that happens, it'll contain cosmetical items only which are basically trivial. Nothing wrong with that.
I hope we can catch up to other drivers like in IRL.
That would be cool indeed.
look good
It does indeed!
Not so sure I'm hyped for this game simply because of who is making it. If the past has anything to do with it, it will be buggy and updates will break parts of the game. I hope it will be good but I've been burned on the hype way too much on game releases in the past 4 years
Understandable... You are completely free to hold off and see how things work out before jumping onboard.
excited for the game but can't help but feel disappointed by a backwards step in graphics. They look about the same level as Dirt 4. lets hope everything else is a step forward
Video footage is from several months ago which is important to keep in mind. Also the video compression for TH-cam doesn't do the graphics justice. Once you will play it on high/ultra settings, it'll look far better.
Where is Corolla WRC or Celica Group. A?
Well, you may not know but Toyota are very reluctant and difficult when it comes to licensing their cars. Something went wrong over a decade ago which turned the relationship between Codies and Toyota sour. Toyota is the reason why we don't have any of their Group A or WRC cars.
I hate to be the bugbear about monetization, but the 5 VIP passes for pre-ordering heavily implies that there will be a battle pass system (race pass?) that will likely have a free tier and a premium paid tier (VIP).
I don't see any other possible explanation. I hate battlepass type systems, it's never sat right with me to have to work towards something after I pay for it.
I'm trying to ignore the whole situation, since it's looking like the base game alone is a worthy sequel to DR2.0 and I can ignore the monetization if I so choose, but the precedence it sets is disturbing. I'd much prefer paid expansions for new content added to game as opposed to paying for the "privilege" to unlock it by jumping through whatever gameplay hoops they set up.
The 5 VIP season passes will only contain cosmetical items such as custom liveries, designs for suits and helmets, etc. If you pre-order, you'll get those cosmetics for free. If you don't, you'll have the option to get them after launch. Apart from that, there are no plans for more.
its hilarious that they have to limit damage to whatever the manufacturer is comfortable with. its not like any of us are going to judge a car by how broken it is after we roll it off a cliff in a video game. its just so darn silly.
are they going to limit the damage real cars in the wrc are allowed to get? ban the filming of crashes, or censor the second half of a stage after a crash so we cant see the damage? lol.
its just so darn weird to me.
For the manufacturers this game is a promotional/marketing tool. Having your car smashed up each time you hit a little post doesn't look good in their eyes. That's why we never see actual real damage representation in a game. Sure there are a few outliers like RBR but apart from that... The biggest franchise games never have it. Think of Gran Turismo, Forza, F1, ACC, etc.
Just as in Dirt 2.0 no Toyota cars? Why no Toyota?
Toyota is a difficult manufacturer to license cars from. Their demands are sometimes unreasonable. There's also a situation that soured the relationship between them and Codies which means that they aren't willing to license their cars to them. The Yaris Rally1 is in the game because it's part of the official WRC license. All other cars not in WRC, WRC2 and Junior WRC have to be licensed individually.
The possibilities of this game being ruined by micro transactions is huge
If you watched the video, you would know there won't be any micro transactions at all in this game. This is a fact.
This game is going to be ea trash full of loot boxes and Bitcoin. Jk. Great video. Gives you a sense of how hard it is to work with manufacturers, audio and a (very) demanding public
Absolutely. I feel that it's important to make people aware of how things work. 😉
Either way, I think I'll stick with Dirt Rally 2.0. I don't trust EA period anymore. They say there won't be aggressive monetization. I've been burned so many times I don't believe them anymore. They said the same when they took over the F1 games... Yeah look how *that* turned out. Everything they touch turns into a microtransaction filled hell. Call me cynical, but that's just how I see EA now.
But hey, I hope I'm wrong. It could be great, and EA may not be up to their old tricks. I'm going to wait a month or two after launch before I decide to pick it up or not, just to see what happens. *Zero* *fucking* *trust* *for* *you* EA.
F1 23's monetization is purely cosmetical items such as liveries, suit and helmet designs, sponsor and design decals for the livery editor. The only thing it does that is unfair, is the xp-boost. That last one shouldn't happen in the WRC game though.
If it's cosmetical stuff only, which is basically trivial, I'd be perfectly fine with that.
No RallyX is tragic. You need the fun bit!
cool game grafics cool best game will bee good game
which unreal engine version its running?
They have not disclosed it as of yet.
@@SimsRacingDesign ok i hope its version 5
@@junaidjainoodeen8527 I suspect it might not be a simple 'one or the other' based on the fact they haven't disclosed it thus far.
Still, this is EA, there will be loot box, just named something different.
And still people don't believe it. If there's anything similar in the game it'll be cosmetical which is basically trivial and of no real value or purpose. I'm perfectly fine with that.
I don't agree with that licence thing for sound as iv created my own games using my own sounds and sold it to people I don't understand why u wouldn't record ur own wrc car sound and just do it 😂 theirs way to much farting and pussying about the way you explained it with sound if that's the case
It is a fact backed up by comments from people working on the project. What you designed by the way... Was that for a major officially licensed AAA racing game?
Think about it...
Ez most ébredt fel 😂
You can watch the video to wake up.
i just want to see racing in mud
Funny how the rally 1 puma is so unreliable they had to get the fiesta to do a few runs down the airfield
Well, the Fiesta is in the game as well so they needed to record that car. Doesn't mean the Puma was unreliable or even there for that matter. 😅
@@SimsRacingDesign apologies to M sport, I didn’t see the 17 fiesta on the car list , the polo will be interesting. Puma was just a joke because it’s been a nightmare on the past how many rallies 😂
@@jackcadwallader6726 Polo will indeed be interesting. I know the Puma hasn't been very reliable in recent times.
denuvo makes it a no buy for me, i'll wait for the empress crack with better fps.
That's your perogative. 😉
Damn you real world no respect for the manurfacturers digital damage requirements.
What?
# No psvr2 no play .
Your loss...
@@SimsRacingDesign nope
@@MIKEDRIFTYes your Loss !
@SimVansevenant No, No loss at all I like playing in VR on psvr2, so no loss for me it doesn't have psvr2support, just a loss of sales for EA sports wrc in the psvr2 market.
@@schorschkluni5067 no loss
so they can have real racing teams fuck up actual cars but manufacturers get butthurt if a logo gets scratched in a virtual world? yea nice "sim" lol
Well, there's nothing the developers can do about that. It's what the manufacturers that set the demands in this case. If the devs could do it, they would.
yes there are no lootboxes.. just surprise mechanics..
you talk like someone who does not know much about EA..
Well, let's wait and see, shall we?