Thank you for the opportunity to chat with you and share time together. I do not get to do this very often at all - and it was a really enjoyable experience thatI am very grateful for. I hope it inspires anyone watching this video to ask questions, use the free online resources you provide and start their own personal journey into creating their motorcycle to meet their needs so they are p[ain free, not exhausted and in a crisis, have the bike perform as best it can.
I remember Dave from a track day I did in CA ... I think it was Sears Point. I was new to track days, and to be honest have only done enough to dip my toes in (I don't have the cash flow, for one thing). This discussion was really interesting, though. I was really impressed by his ability to analyze the tire wear (on a slick, no less) to determine tire pressure and suspension settings. His commentary about the relationship to psychology was also fascinating ... I didn't know anyone was thinking of that relationship. Lastly, I really appreciate his generosity here, sharing his decades of knowledge in the interview, and apparently online with tutorials and such. Fun discussion, great guy! ✌
He's a great font of knowledge from real life eperience. Great interview. I've learned a lot from Dave's tyre read explanations and suspension work. I've paid that knowledge forward helping others out with suspension set ups. All the best for the future Mr Moss and thankyou.
I 1000% agree. Dave has spent thousands of days and countless hours on the track in the pits at racetracks and dealerships. He is literally a walking textbook, and I am sure he would be happy to hear your endorsement!
@@KiwiMoto72 there’s some excellent videos on TH-cam calling him out, he’s a snake oil salesman. Just a very successful one. Christ, in some videos he can’t even get the name of certain components correct.
@@gpzfan5272 Yep.. I watched a video where he set up a guys road bike and spoke about sag then did all the compression and rebound adjusters.... Then at the end altered the pre-load!!! You set the sag with pre-load first and set the damping up after setting the sag!!!! He basically messed up all the stuff he claimed he was doing at the end... Not to mention checking sag with the guy on the bike having his feet on the floor!!! NO!!! The rider needs to be sat in his actual riding position to check sag. He talks about steps in tyre wear where the tread is and that is natural wear and not special. He talked about "Fluffy clouds" as patterns on chicken strips where its simply the tyre deformation on bumps on the road surface and due to how slow the rider was obviously going would never be a set up issue with 30mm+ of untouched tyre tread on each side of the tyre. He even talked about racing and winning riding at 95% with chicken strips on his tyres! If I ride at 95% I have no chicken strips and wouldn't be winning anything if I am among riders of a similar skill level. NO racer races at 95% unless they are a racing god going out in a club race. Its like the guys who do trackdays and "win" the slow or intermediate group but will not go out with the quicker guys.
@@KiwiMoto72 Dave claimed, on his own website, he was part of team USA at the Phillip island classic from 2011 to 2018.. Team USA did not have a team until 2013 and he only entered in 2016 on a borrowed Yamaha TZ750 and was about 13 seconds per lap slower than the leaders. I actually know some of the riders who rode for Team Australia and team GB as Dave "Davo" Johnson rode for Team Australia and Michael Rutter for team GB in 2018. Dave lives in the UK near me and works at an engineering company I use. Michael is a customer of mine as I make carbon parts and made parts for his 2024 TT Super Twin Yamaha race bike. As for what I know or do... Its all quite easy to find, just google Nurburgring Lap times and look at the Bike lap times. I built the bike which is currently the second fastest bike on the Tourist lap (bikes do not get to do the full lap normally so most of the lap times are TF laps) ridden by Andy "Andypath" Carlile on a Suzuki GSXR600 I built for Fast Bikes magazine. I think I know a little about suspension and bike building and know enough to be 100% sure there is some prime BS being talked here... GP Suspension is relatively new as a company and its not in Oregon its in California.
Yeah, it’s true. In this video alone, there are many sentences he says which just mean absolutely nothing. He’s managed to just sell it to the right crowd. Don’t think it would wash too well at a UK track day. However, in America where they still haven’t worked out what corners are, he’s in his element.
Thank you for the opportunity to chat with you and share time together. I do not get to do this very often at all - and it was a really enjoyable experience thatI am very grateful for. I hope it inspires anyone watching this video to ask questions, use the free online resources you provide and start their own personal journey into creating their motorcycle to meet their needs so they are p[ain free, not exhausted and in a crisis, have the bike perform as best it can.
I remember Dave from a track day I did in CA ... I think it was Sears Point. I was new to track days, and to be honest have only done enough to dip my toes in (I don't have the cash flow, for one thing). This discussion was really interesting, though. I was really impressed by his ability to analyze the tire wear (on a slick, no less) to determine tire pressure and suspension settings. His commentary about the relationship to psychology was also fascinating ... I didn't know anyone was thinking of that relationship. Lastly, I really appreciate his generosity here, sharing his decades of knowledge in the interview, and apparently online with tutorials and such. Fun discussion, great guy! ✌
Dave is an amazing person and an amazing resource!! He helped me immensely and I am truly grateful!
Couldn't agree more!
Great interview. Dave is my hero.
He's a great font of knowledge from real life eperience. Great interview. I've learned a lot from Dave's tyre read explanations and suspension work. I've paid that knowledge forward helping others out with suspension set ups. All the best for the future Mr Moss and thankyou.
I 1000% agree. Dave has spent thousands of days and countless hours on the track in the pits at racetracks and dealerships. He is literally a walking textbook, and I am sure he would be happy to hear your endorsement!
@@KiwiMoto72 No he isn't...
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Dave talks a lot of rubbish
i can give you a list of names that stretches to moon, who would tell you otherwise, but you are entitled to your opinion.
@@KiwiMoto72 there’s some excellent videos on TH-cam calling him out, he’s a snake oil salesman. Just a very successful one.
Christ, in some videos he can’t even get the name of certain components correct.
@@gpzfan5272 Yep.. I watched a video where he set up a guys road bike and spoke about sag then did all the compression and rebound adjusters.... Then at the end altered the pre-load!!! You set the sag with pre-load first and set the damping up after setting the sag!!!! He basically messed up all the stuff he claimed he was doing at the end... Not to mention checking sag with the guy on the bike having his feet on the floor!!! NO!!! The rider needs to be sat in his actual riding position to check sag. He talks about steps in tyre wear where the tread is and that is natural wear and not special. He talked about "Fluffy clouds" as patterns on chicken strips where its simply the tyre deformation on bumps on the road surface and due to how slow the rider was obviously going would never be a set up issue with 30mm+ of untouched tyre tread on each side of the tyre. He even talked about racing and winning riding at 95% with chicken strips on his tyres! If I ride at 95% I have no chicken strips and wouldn't be winning anything if I am among riders of a similar skill level. NO racer races at 95% unless they are a racing god going out in a club race. Its like the guys who do trackdays and "win" the slow or intermediate group but will not go out with the quicker guys.
@@KiwiMoto72 Dave claimed, on his own website, he was part of team USA at the Phillip island classic from 2011 to 2018.. Team USA did not have a team until 2013 and he only entered in 2016 on a borrowed Yamaha TZ750 and was about 13 seconds per lap slower than the leaders. I actually know some of the riders who rode for Team Australia and team GB as Dave "Davo" Johnson rode for Team Australia and Michael Rutter for team GB in 2018. Dave lives in the UK near me and works at an engineering company I use. Michael is a customer of mine as I make carbon parts and made parts for his 2024 TT Super Twin Yamaha race bike. As for what I know or do... Its all quite easy to find, just google Nurburgring Lap times and look at the Bike lap times. I built the bike which is currently the second fastest bike on the Tourist lap (bikes do not get to do the full lap normally so most of the lap times are TF laps) ridden by Andy "Andypath" Carlile on a Suzuki GSXR600 I built for Fast Bikes magazine. I think I know a little about suspension and bike building and know enough to be 100% sure there is some prime BS being talked here...
GP Suspension is relatively new as a company and its not in Oregon its in California.
Yeah, it’s true. In this video alone, there are many sentences he says which just mean absolutely nothing. He’s managed to just sell it to the right crowd. Don’t think it would wash too well at a UK track day. However, in America where they still haven’t worked out what corners are, he’s in his element.
Dave is an amazing person and an amazing resource!! He helped me immensely and I am truly grateful!